Dial In with Jonny Ardavanis - How to “Redeem” your time: What the Bible Says About Stewarding Your Days

Episode Date: October 27, 2026

Christians don’t kill time, they redeem it. In this finale of the Get to Work series, Jonny and Hank walk through Ephesians 5:15-16 to unpack what it means to walk in wisdom by stewarding the time God has given you.📖 Pre-order Jonny Ardavanis's new book Get to Work: Seeing Your Daily Grind as God’s Good Gift here: https://a.co/d/0aFMdjNpYou’ll learn:Why Paul says the clearest mark of wisdom is how you use your timeThe meaning of “redeeming the time” (the Greek marketplace word behind it)Kairos vs. chronos: seasons of opportunity, not just minutes on a clockFour reasons to steward your time: it’s short, uncertain, gone forever, and the days are evilPractical ways to redeem your time: limit screen time, make a schedule, learn to say no, and pursue spiritual disciplineHow to stay attentive to the Holy Spirit’s leading in each season of lifeIf you’ve ever felt like your days are slipping away, this conversation will help you live with urgency and joy for the glory of God.📱 This episode is sponsored by Accountable2You. Stay accountable in a digital world: check out Accountable2You at accountable2you.com/dialin — use code DIALIN for 25% off your first year.

How you engage with the Word of God matters. Psalm 1 calls us to meditate on the scripture day and night, and the CSB spiral-bound note-taking Bible is a fantastic tool to help you do exactly that. It's spiral-bound, so it lays flat and stays flat and has these wide margins so that you can include your own observations and not just someone else's commentary. It comes in five volumes, the Pentateuch, the historical books, wisdom and poetry, prophets, and New Testament, so you can go deep into God's word one section at a time.

And over time, it'll become your own personal record, of your walk with God and your growth and understanding of his word. You can get the full set or start with one volume. Your notes matter and you can start today. There is a key indicator for how a believer distinguishes a life of wisdom from a life of folly. Paul says in 515, therefore be careful how you walk, not as unwise men, but as wise. And then he says this, making the most of your time because the days are evil, meaning that the key way that we walk in wisdom

is by taking a shrewd inventory of our time and viewing the time we have as a stewardship from God. Paul says you've been given a season of time and you're not to let it slip away, you're to redeem it. Sometimes people say like, oh, I'm just killing time, but Christians, they don't kill time, they redeem time.

If you're a believer, you were called out of the darkness into the light for a specific purpose. And so with that, there is a level of love-fueled, gospel-driven stewardship. So how do we do this? How do we redeem our time? Hank, how are we doing?

I'm doing great, Johnny. How are you doing? Fantastic. What's going on? I did something pretty exciting last week. What? I sat in a deer blind with my son. For people who know me well, you know, I'm an acclaimed hunter.

I've literally never killed a deer in my life. Or anything. And so we sat in this deer blind. I'm not exaggerating for three hours. My five-year-old son, perfectly silent. Anytime I open my mouth, he goes, dad, stop talking. He can't even see out of the deer blind. Let's just say, Doe comes out, Bambi with mother, I didn't shoot.

I let it walk. I was about to go like, dude, we should not. No, I felt like I literally didn't have the heart. It was like, today is not that day. Okay, good. How are you doing? What happened? I watched the deer walk by.

Oh, that's it? Yeah, 100%. That's 100% the story. Oh, we did not know where this was going. Hey, this is actually a big episode, though, because we're concluding a very important series. A larger series. A lot of the material that we've been covering in recent weeks is included in my book that's available now. Comes out November 3rd, get to work, seeing your daily grind is God's good gift. We've covered in recent episodes that God himself is a worker.

We've talked about how the believer is to work with excellence and enthusiasm, integrity, and to work as unto the Lord. we talked about how laziness is a sin, biblically speaking, not just because it's a lack of productivity, but because it's a failure to represent the God and whose image we are made. But there's one other category I want to talk about, and we've talked about rest previously a couple weeks ago, Sabbath, and how we're to enjoy the life that God has given us. But I always want to juxtapose and interpret scripture with scripture. And there's one other thing that is included in the book that I think is really important for a believer to understand and for me personally to understand.

And that's how we steward our time. Now, as we continue and kind of walk through this, in Ephesians 5, well, in the book of Ephesians in general, Paul is talking about everything that God has done for us in Christ. And he follows this typical Pauline flow, Paul Pauline, okay? Ephesians 1, he talks about what God has done for us. He chose us in him before the foundation of the world. That's an awesome verse that God loves us before time began.

In Ephesians 2, we read that we were dead in our trespasses, and sins, but God, Ephesians 2.4, being rich in mercy, he made us alive. He did a miracle. In Ephesians 3, Paul prays that the believer would understand the height and breadth and depth and width of the love of God and understand everything that he has done for us in Christ. Now, in those first three chapters, there are 66 verses, and only one of those verses is an imperative, a command. That is found in Ephesians 212 when Paul tells believers to remember what God has done. So essentially, those first three chapters, just what God has done, what God has done what God has done. Now, as Paul turns a corner in Ephesians 4, he's going to talk to us

about how we live in light of everything that God has done. And it's filled with commands, filled with imperatives. And all of the imperatives that follow in chapters 4 through 6 of Ephesians hinge upon the one, which is found in Ephesians 4-1. Do you have that? Yeah, I do. It begins. Therefore, I, the prisoner and the Lord, exhort you to walk worthy of the calling into which you've been called. So he just says, hey, because of everything that I've touched on in the first three chapters, you are to walk worthy of the calling with which you've been called from God or by God, meaning like you live in a way that reflects, you understand the gravity of Jesus' sacrifice and his love for you.

Now, what does that even mean to walk worthy of the calling we've received? Well, and before we jump in there, I just think that's such a helpful setup to this conversation. And really, this is actually a broader principle I feel like you address over and over in your book, is it's so easy I'll say for me personally this is going to be redundant to folks who have listened to us for the last couple of years but I always want to jump to the application or like okay so how is this going to impact my life

what are the tools and tactics I need to implement tomorrow to kind of make a change and part of that is obviously good but even the way Paul sets up Ephesians is emblematic of what I often skip and that's actually a pause and a reflection on who God is what he's done let that inform and set

the context for whatever then is going to need to be implemented. And so often where we fall into legalism or where we might fall into kind of these unhealthy patterns of do, do, do, do, do, do. It's in light of us, I literally knew you. I was going to lose you. Keep going. You're saying that the gospel empowers and compels how we live in light of it. 100%.

And when we lose sight of what Christ has done, it lends us to start building action. and patterns in life that are ultimately based on our own doing? No, exactly what you're saying is right. That's what Paul is even talking about in 2 Corinthians 5 when he says, the love of Christ compels us. We have to keep that as the power or else it becomes duty-driven and not the light-fueled. And so obviously there's duty in the Christian life, but we have all the ample reasoning for why we should want to obey

rather than just ought to obey. Now, when Paul says that we ought to walk in a manner worthy of the gospel, what does that mean? Well, he talks about walking in unity in chapter 4, verses 2 through 16, walking in newness of life, walking in love, walking in sexual purity, even all of the wisdom regarding, you know, be imitators of Jesus Christ and walk in sexual purity, but not even a hint of it should be even named among you is because we're to walk in a manner worthy of the gospel. But in this episode, there's one final way that Paul says we walk in a manner worthy of the gospel.

It's the longest section in the entire letter to the Ephesian Church, and it goes from chapter 515 through chapter 6 verse 9. And it's all grounded in chapter 5, verse 15, as I mentioned. Paul says, therefore, be careful how you walk, not as unwise men, but as wise. So what he's saying here is if you want to walk in a manner worthy of the gospel, then you need to walk in biblical wisdom. Now when Paul talks about wisdom, he's not referring to what you know. he's referring to how you live

because you can have all of the biblical knowledge in the world and still live like a biblical fool. And Paul roots this in saying verse 15 again, therefore be careful how you walk or walk carefully or one translation says, watch out, meaning that the believer is to contemplate to think carefully, to weigh how they are to live. We are no longer children of darkness.

We are no longer children of wrath. We've been blood bought by Jesus. We're walking in the light. And so we're not to tread the path of this life carelessly, but carefully. And one of the things that we know to be sure is one of the surest ways to live like a biblical fool is to not evaluate how we're living. So it's super helpful. One of the things that maybe isn't immediately apparent to me is, okay, walking in wisdom. Like, I want to do that.

But then practically, how does that begin showing up? And what's interesting, just having read these verses beforehand, is Paul is going to take a very deliberate turn. and it's not one I would have naturally necessarily thought of. And so what is maybe the distinguishing factor of walking in wisdom? There is a key indicator for how a believer distinguishes a life of wisdom from a life of folly. And it's in the following verse. Paul says in 515, therefore be careful how you walk, not as unwise men, but as wise. And then he says this, making the most of your time because the days are evil,

meaning that the key way that we walk in wisdom is by taking a shrewd inventory of our time, and viewing the time we have as a stewardship from God. Now, in my Bible, it says making the most of your time and I actually feel like that's not a great translation because if Paul wanted to say, what? I was going to say, you want to hear what my Bible says? What is your say? Mine says, redeeming the time.

Which would be an appropriate translation. The Greek word is Exegaraza Minoi. That word is the same word that Paul uses in Galatians when he says that Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law. Now, that is the language of the marketplace. It means to buy, it means to purchase. And Paul is saying that one of the clearest ways that blood bought and redeemed sinners

evidenced the transformation that has taken place in their life is by buying back their time. In this case, what we're buying up is not just any commodity. It's the most precious commodity of all. It's our time. And this birthmark of spiritual wisdom is not for super-duper Christians, but for the everyday child of God. Some 119 verse 9 reads, how can a young man keep his way pure by keeping it according to your word? One of the priorities of a person pursuing purity is the Word of God.

I've said it before and I've written this for myself that if God's Word is not my priority, neither is my purity. Now, in addition to a love for the Word of God and a dependence upon the Spirit of God, one of the practical strategies for pursuing purity in a world that is littered with impurity is having some form of digital accountability. You have access, I have access by just the devices we have as an orative element in our life to all sorts of sin. And I want accountability in my life. And so we've partnered up with Accountable to You.

And I've been using this software for the last several years and been so blessed by it. The other people on our team use it as well. And I want to recommend it to you. You can use our unique code dial in to get 25% off the first year for your personal or family plan. And you can check out more information at Accountable to You. I almost just need to reflect on that reality. One of the things that's just jumping out is that is true regardless of your socioeconomic status or your stage in life.

Meaning that it's easy for someone to think someone who has all the money in the world, they would be quick to reflect, oh, my time is my most valuable asset. Or when you sit with maybe a grandparent or someone who's nearing the end of their days, it's at the forefront of their mind. But I also even just think back to times in high school or college, times where I'm maybe wasn't making the most use of my time, and even feeling the imprint of kind of the spirit of God of like, this is not right. This isn't the way I should be, even though that's divorced from not having all the money in the world. It seems incredibly applicable. Yeah. There's actually,

there's two different words used for time throughout the scripture that even helps us to understand that type of an idea. One of them is chiros, and the other is chronos. You recognize chronos or chronos. It's the word from which we get the word chronology. It refers to, to a passing successive moments on the clock. It's like the way we use the English word time in the sentence, what time is it? But that's not the word we have here in the Greek. It's not chronos, it's chiros.

And chiros refers to seasons or epochs. It's similar to the way that the English word time is used in the sentence and Dickens's classic work. It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. So when Paul is saying here to redeem the time, he's not even just talking about specific moments, but about periods of time, seasons of time, windows of opportunity.

He's saying the time in your life. Paul says you've been given a season of time, and you're not to let it slip away, you're to redeem it. Sometimes people say like, oh, I'm just killing time, but Christians, they don't kill time. They redeem time. Now, why is it so important that Christians redeem time? And I think there's a number of different things that we could kind of punctuate to highlight why this is so critical in the life of a believer.

And again, this is not for super saints. This is a basic hallmark of walking in a manner worthy of the gospel. Like in the same way Paul says at the beginning of chapter 5, that one of the ways you walk in a manner worthy of the gospel is by walking in sexual purity, here he's going to say, you need to walk in a manner worthy of the gospel by stewarding your time.

Now, why? Well, first of all, Edwards helps us in this regard is because our time is very short and because of that, it is very precious. The scarcity of any commodity drives the value of it. And scarcer than diamonds are a man's days. We see this all throughout the scripture. We see that man's days are like grass.

Job says my days are swifter than a weaver shuttle. Solomon says that our life is like a vapor. Even I was talking to Katie about this last night. Just like I think one of the things that happens in the tyranny of life, the urgency of life, is we just forget, how fast life is. And so obviously we need the steward time because our time on earth,

even Psalm 90, the only Psalm ever written by Moses that we've covered before, he says, you might live 80, 90 years, but that life is like a blink of an eye. It's like a blip on the radar. So we need to steward our time because life is short. Anything to add there?

No, it's just, it's convicting. Yeah, no, it is for me as well. And not only is our time short, it is secondly uncertain. You may know the verse in James 4, 13, through 14, It says, come now, you who say today or tomorrow, we will go to such and such a city, spend a year there, buy and sell and make a profit, whereas you do not know what your life

will look like tomorrow. What is your life? It is a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away. Not only do we know that life is short, we know that death is sure, and the timing of that death is uncertain, meaning we could have 50 more years, we could have 50 more days. We don't know. The timing of life is uncertain. And so with that, you're going like,

I know I'm going to meet my maker. I want to steward my time in the here and now, knowing that there is an inevitable outcome at the end of my life. And I think there's a balance implicit in that of on the younger side of hoping you have many decades ahead of you. You want to set up your life in such a way that you're compounding your efforts in a way that you're not living for kind of the 24-hour cycle. But also, that reality is,

can to your point, it's uncertain. Professionally, there was a guy I was pretty close to who passed away tragically of a heart attack at his son's baseball practice a couple weeks ago. And I mean, this guy was young, fit, and freak accident passed away in his truck. And that was punctuated by, we were talking about this earlier, but also a well-known family friend who's a pastor, young man, healthy, four kids, just with a terrible cancer diagnosis. And it's those practical reminders that, for me, it's... least, it's one thing to say, like, oh, yeah, our days are uncertain. It's another when you're actually

brought face to face with it with people that you know that I have to confess, like, so often, I live my life as if that isn't a reality day to day until you get leveled by almost like God catching your attention of like, man, these days truly are uncertain. Keep going. No, and I think it's worth highlighting because the longer you live, the more you realize that you're inevitably going to be confronted with that type of a situation in your life. And it's always a good tuning fork to the kind of inclination of the human heart that thinks, I'm going to live forever. And so you have that.

And then third here, one of the reasons we need to steward our time is because once time is gone, it is gone forever. Jonathan Edwards says this, if men were as lavish of their money as they are of their time, if it were as common a thing for them to throw away their money as it was for them to throw away their time, we should think that they were besides themselves out of their mind. Yet time is a thousand times more precious than money, and when it is gone, it cannot be purchased for money

and cannot be redeemed by silver or gold. If you saw someone lighting a thousand bucks on fire, you'd be like, what are you doing? But we don't think much of the person that's wasting day after day after day. A boxing legend won the Olympic gold in 1968, and went on to dominate for years winning the heavyweight championship in 1973. However, this boxer filed for bankruptcy in 1983.

He had lost everything. But he turned a corner in his late 40s and made all that money back and then died worth hundreds of millions of dollars, not by boxing, but by marketing portable, electrically heated grills called George Foreman Grills. And we understand the principle.

fortunes can be lost and rebuilt, but no one can have back yesterday. Once time is gone, it is gone forever. And so with that reality, the scripture beckons us to steward and redeem our time and make them most of it. Fourth here, we need to redeem our time because we have work to do. We've talked previously about kind of the idea of Jesus kind of having this, you know, relaxed nature, and we understood kind of the, I think, I think the best intentions of what was intended by that type of statement that like Jesus was relaxed.

And I agree with that. But there's also this urgency that you have to couple that with that we've talked about in John 94. Jesus says, we must work the works of him who sent me while at his day. Night is coming when no one can work. And as long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. One of the thing that's interesting about that when Jesus says, I must work the works of him who sent me while at his day. He actually doesn't say, ah, he says, he says we, you know, meaning like this is inclusive of the disciples. like you've been given one life to live

and you must do the works that God has called you to do while it is day. We understand Ephesians 210 and people love that verse like you are God's workmanship created in Christ Jesus like you're his work of art. We use that, we emphasize that, but sometimes we leave off the tail end of that verse.

We are God's workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good work which God prepared beforehand that you would walk in them. I would want to encourage anybody listening or watching that if you're a believer, you were called out of the darkness into the light for a specific purpose. And so you have to ask those questions, like, what has God left me here to do? What is my mission?

Yes, time is short. Yes, time is uncertain. And yes, once time is gone, it is gone forever. And so with that, there is a level of love-fueled, gospel-driven stewardship. Totally. Like, I want to live for God while I have breath, Acts 17. every breath in my lungs is a gift from God. And while he gives me that breath,

I want to make sure I steward it to the max. Well, and I'm just thinking about this real time as you're saying this, thinking back in my own life, like the quote-unquote big decisions I've made, where to go to college, who to marry, preparation for job interviews, even when we were getting ready to have kids, preparation to trying to become a father

who is living with a degree of intentionality. I wonder how many people, I would put myself in this included, who haven't spent, nearly the literal, I'm talking minutes, like dedicated time reflecting on the brevity of their life and the fact that purely like this season will have will reflect and echo and ripple throughout eternity. And it's easy to think like, man, if you're a student and you're deciding where you're going to go to school or if you're going to take a gap here, it's understood that like time and real

effort and research goes into that decision. And yet we often, it's so easy to neglect it. And when we kind of zoom out and go to the 30,000 life view perspective. Yeah. And it's a good thing to kind of like to go not only is my life short, but I'm going to give an account for that life. Totally. And if Jesus says we're going to give an account for every idle word, how much more just like our moments.

And obviously God has given us life to enjoy. We see that. But then there's also like on the other side of the coin, I want to make sure I maximize it for his glory. And then there's an obvious reason we need the stewarder. time and it's right here in the text in Ephesians 516 it says making the most of your time and then there's because it says the days are evil redeem the time because the days are evil paul writes this 2,000 years ago and what he says then is just as true now i don't need to convince

anybody listening or watching of this reality turn on the news we live in evil days and paul says that one of the reasons christians are to take stock of their life and the time in their life is because the days are evil. Now, every single era, every epoch, and the Christians that live within that era or epoch, can say with Mordecai, potentially, no, not potentially, I am here for such a time as this. And so hell is hot, eternity is forever, the days are evil, and I want God to use me in these evil days, sometimes even people look at the world and they go, man, it's growing so dark. Like, I mean, I wish I could have been born in 19, you know, if you've read outliers, like, Malcolm Gladwell talks about, like, being born in 1954 was like the greatest year to ever be born. You know,

like, you could have maximized all of the different recessions and bought the dip, you know, and like, and so sometimes if you're watching, you're like, dude, I'm growing up in an AI world, you know. Houses are too expensive. Interest rates are crazy. You know, the world's going so dark and depraved and, like, we're in the end times. Like, there's like legitimate. like angst. Yeah, we're not dismissing. Like those are real things. Real things. Totally. And so there's a level, like, sometimes people ask me, like, what does it feel like to live in this era? Like, how do you encourage the next generation or whatever that may be? And I say, well, I've been given a mission by God. These evil days are the evil days entrusted to me by God to redeem and to make the most of them.

And I'm here for such a time as this. Like, I can say that as much as Mordeca, I can say that to Esther. I'm here for such a time as this. And your point being, you can say that. You're not saying that as a unique kind of pastor gifted with a ministry in Middle Tennessee. That's true for everything. It's just being written to slaves, you know, in Ephesus. And so for sure, anybody, you know, like anybody. So how do we do this?

How do we redeem our time? I just wrote down some practical things. First of all, we need to remember that we're going to give an account what you said, you know, actually think. You know, you need to engage your mind to just begin to ponder. just for a moment, this life is short. How much time do you give to just considering your own finitude? The Salmas does a lot. Like, I'm short.

My life is short. It's a blade of grass. And I don't want to always turn this to working in finance and investing. You'll notice, like, great investors, great entrepreneurs, great management teams, they're always thinking in light of, like, what is the game I'm playing? So you start, like, practical, good, decision-making 101 is you're starting with what's the end in mind? Like, what are we actually

working towards? Yeah. For us, I feel like it's so easily overlooked that as a Christian, that existential question that's asked of you, that's asked of every person who's ever lived, we actually have the answer. So like we know how we're- Know our purpose and destiny. Totally. And so the question then is like, all right, well, Hank Bowen, audience member, have you thought through the implications of that on your life? So your marriage, your family, your work, I mean, these are, it's like tactical, low level hanging fruit, but it's the difference is immense between hearing it and actually putting it into practice. Yeah, no, it's really good.

I think second practically is limit your screen time. This is obvious. Like take apps off your phone. No one listening or watching is going to regret spending less time on social media. That's always going to be like, live your life. One of my professors in college used to tell me to live your life as a hedge against regret, meaning make decisions now that you. you'll wish you would have made in the future, you know, looking back. Totally.

Real practical. Make a schedule. Most people listening, my life is like this, are inundated by the perceptibly urgent. Like everything matters. And I would say the more responsibility that is thrust into your life, everything feels important. But making a schedule helps you then to clarify your priorities and then learn to say no. Like learning to say no to things is really important because,

as far as redeeming your time, your family is a really important part of that time. You know, so like I'm saying yes to my family, which means I have to say no to other things, right? I love the quote by Jay Oswald Sanders, and I think I've mentioned it once before. He writes this in spiritual leadership.

It's about taking an inventory of our time. And people count calories. They count, you know, their inventory, but not that many people, like, consider time. And he says this, Jay Oswald Sanders. After a generous allowance of eight hours a day for sleep and rest, And few really need more than that. Three hours a day for meals and social interaction.

10 hours a day for work and travel on five days. There still remains no fewer than 35 hours unaccounted for in every week. What happens in those hours? How are the extra two days in the week invested? And then he says, The whole of man's contribution to the kingdom of God might well turn upon how those crucial hours are employed. They will determine whether his life will be commonplace or extraordinary.

I think big idea there is how you serve people, how you love your family, the memories that you curate for your children's childhood, right? Like are a factor of taking up, squeezing out the extra, you know, time that you have to be able to maximize that. And I'm using that word a lot. Fifth year would be to implement godly discipline. There is no such thing as a spiritually mature person who is not spiritually disciplined. No one here drifts towards godliness.

You drift towards sin. Like that's why Paul says, like he uses the analogies. Sometimes, you know, even we use like athletic analogies. And, you know, like, I think sometimes if you don't watch sports, you know, that's totally fine. But Paul uses athletic analogies like boxer, runner, farmer, you know, like he's using analogies of intensity. Because we have to implement with some intensity spiritual disciplines. With that, we can't do what the scripture is laying out for us without the power of the Holy Spirit. And so we ask the Holy Spirit to help us.

Psalm 90, verse 12, teach us, Lord, to number our days, that we may present to you a heart of wisdom. What Paul writes on, Moses understood thousands of years ago, and we pray, God help us, and then we sing, take my life and let it be consecrated the Lord to the, take my moments and my days, let them flow in ceaseless praise, let them flow in endless praise, like, Lord, help me. And then just finally, and you jump in, go ahead. Maybe just before we kind of land the plane here, I think that point is particularly, if you're listening to a dial-in episode, I feel like it says something about you that, generally speaking, you probably, like a huge portion of the audience, has a very high regard of scripture, has a desire for doctrinal clarity and like a high view of God, theology,

and how that fuels doxology. Come on the point here, though, on, so the spiritual discipline, I feel like maps to someone who's like the type A. I'm getting my reading plan down. I know how I'm going to my time. That second part to what you added there is just so valuable. And I feel like people can in that camp, I'll speak personally, can unfortunately not on purpose drift into a category of missing that the Lord, the Holy Spirit speaks through you also in the still small whisper. And as it relates to then redeeming time, I was just thinking about Nehemiah. We were talking about this a little bit with some friends last night. You were talking about Nehemiah last night? Yeah. Yeah, it's just a casual

conversation for Hank. It was meditating on a back in context. But at the end of Nehemiah one, he says, now I was cut bare to the king. And then Nehemiah, too, I'm not going to dive into it.

But there comes this moment where Nehemiah is before the king and he's downcast. And the king asked him, why are you downcast? And it says, Nehemiah stopped, prayed, and then said,

let me go back and rebuild the walls. And it's just this amazing moment of like, speaking to redeeming your time. There's seasons, there's epochs, the chiros of your life where you're doing the same thing. Like, God might have you on a path, and that's good. Like, change the diapers. Go to work, wake up, work out again.

But then if we neglect that Still Small Whisper, there's also these moments where God might allie up you and there's an opportunity to take a completely different direction. And we want to be attentive to that spirit. Totally. And when you say Still Small Whisper, we're not referring literally to a whisper from God like Hank, you know, we're referring just the promptings of the Holy Spirit in our life. Totally.

It's a real relationship with a real God. And so it's not always chapter verse like, Hank, you need to do this. Like there's promptings of our life being directed by the power of the Holy Spirit. Like he's our guide. You know, that's why Jesus refers to him as the parakelite. He'll come alongside you. And so it's really critical. And I think we've touched on this couple episodes ago, but just learning to rest helps us to steward our time.

we want to have enough, you know, in the Christian calendar, our day begins with, our week begins with rest, doesn't end with rest, meaning like it frames the way we live the rest of the week. And so learning to really steward the time, redeem the time so that even we can have that time alone with God. Totally. Right. Shapes everything else about the way that we live.

Like if you're spending time disciplined in God's word, let's say you're on a day of rest, it's a true Sabbath and you're spending time communing with God. it's going to shape your intake the rest of the week. If you're consuming garbage later on in the week, and yet you're comparing that to like, I would have this awesome time with the Lord, it's going to make those things more and more disinteresting to you,

which is going to inevitably frame, you know, the way you want to steward your time. So I think there's much more that could be said. I go into greater detail on it in the book, but if you desire to walk in a manner worthy of the gospel, everything that God has done for you, it's important that you know that one, God cares about the way you steward your time.

He cares about your time. He's given you life to live. It is a gift. It's on lease. It's on loan from God. But we want to redeem it, buy it back, knowing the scripture says that the days are evil. And you've been both created on purpose and you've been saved for a purpose by God as revealed in his word. Well, this has been a super helpful study for me personally.

I appreciate you taking the time to walk through it. Also, it's just, it's great to reflect for a moment. on just the greater series we've been able to walk through and just a topic near and dear to everyone's heart. You spend an inordinate amount of your time working. And so really appreciate the work you have in the book. I'm sure it's going to be a blessing to people. It was a blessing to me.

But really grateful to walk through who God is, how He's created us, how we're to work in light of that, how we're to repent and refrain and run away from laziness, and ultimately how we can make the most use of our time. I think for folks, if you found this helpful, sincerely, it is so helpful if you like, comment, subscribe. I'd love to hear the nuggets. I look forward to reading them every week of things that stood out to you and maybe one

particular thing, one part of your day where you're looking to redeem in the coming week. So thanks for doing this, Johnny. That's great. Thanks, Hank. About 90,000 hours of your life are spent working. And if you never learn to think biblically about those hours, whether you're a mom, a CEO, a doctor, a businessman. a lawyer or a plumber, about 90,000 hours of your life are spent working. And if you never

learn to think about those hours biblically, you risk living with a significant spiritual injury. The first thing the Bible tells us about God is that he works and he made you in his image. My new book, Get to Work will help you see your daily grind as God's good gift. You can pre-order that book right now wherever books are sold. About 90,000 hours of your life are spent working. And if you never learn to think about those hours biblically, you risk living with a significant spiritual injury. The first thing the Bible tells us about God is that he works and he made you in his image. My new book, Get to Work. We'll help you see your daily grind as God's good gift. You can pre-order that book right now wherever books are sold.