Dial In with Jonny Ardavanis - What Does John 3:16 Actually Mean? | The Gospel Explained In Context
Episode Date: April 14, 2026In this episode of Dial In Ministries, we dive deep into John 3:16 — arguably the most well-known verse in all of Scripture — and unpack what it truly means with fresh eyes.This episode is sponsor...ed by The Master's University. To learn more about how you can invest in a college education devoted to Christ & Scripture, visit masters.eduTopics Covered:What does "For God so loved the world" really mean?The meaning of "born again" and why Jesus said it to NicodemusGod's sovereignty vs. human responsibility in salvationWhat is saving faith — and how is it different from just believing facts?Why Jesus came to save, not to judge (John 3:17–18)The urgency of the gospel and the story of D.L. MoodyScriptures Referenced: John 3:16–19, Romans 8:3, Romans 10:9–13, Ephesians 2:8, Titus 3:4–5, Numbers 21, John 1:11–12, Hebrews 11:6
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But when the kindness of God, our Savior, and watch this, and his love for mankind appeared, he saved us, meaning it's not just that God loves the redeemed.
He obviously does love them in a special way, but it says his love for mankind.
He loves those who are made in his image.
First of all, and I would say, you should preach the gospel in a way where people are concerned that it is going to produce easy-believism, right?
Like, sometimes there's just like, oh, I really want to fight against cheap.
grace and then you start preaching the gospel in a way that's like well that's not the way jesus
preached the gospel or the apostles did what makes god's love so unique is that it's expressed and
demonstrated not to those who are worthy of it but god demonstrates his own love towards us and
this that while we were yet what sinners he died for us john 316 says whoever believes in him
shall not perish and that's available to anybody you know right now Hank how you doing
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Okay, now, Hank, we are in week four, I think.
Are you still laughing about making up your watchers?
Yeah, I was going to say, do you want me to participate in this episode or am I just a useful
placeholder in this chair for your, for your whiff and judgments?
Two watches.
What are we talking about today, Johnny?
Well, we're on week four of this conversation with Jesus and Nicodemus.
It's probably the most well-known conversation in human history.
Jesus comes to this man, Nicodemus, or Nicodemus comes to Jesus, and he's anxious because
He knows every answer, but he doesn't have assurance of his standing before God.
And he's the most respected man in Israel.
Jesus is largely rejected.
Nicodemus is a wealthy Pharisee, and Jesus is a poor Galilean carpenter.
But Nicodemus is hungry for truth.
He's clamoring for truth, and Jesus is the truth.
And this conversation unfolds because Nicodemus comes to him and says,
hey, teacher, we know that you must be from God, for no one can do the signs that you're doing unless God is with him.
And Jesus kind of disregards that salutation and says, all right, Nicodemus.
Unless a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
That's in John 3.
And we've been talking about that for a few weeks, that according to Jesus, there's only one type of person in heaven, someone who is born again.
I just want to pause there for a moment and just say, that phrase being born again was not made up by like the Billy Graham Crusade in the 1960s nor Baptist in the 1980s.
It's something that Jesus says is absolutely necessary for salvation.
and what he's getting at to Nicodemus is that we need a miracle of God
in order for us to see the kingdom of God.
Absolutely.
And we've looked at this over the last several weeks,
and that miracle is 100% a work of the Lord, you unpacked clearly,
and yet also contains a call for humans' responsibility to respond in faith.
Yeah, and there's this double reality here where Jesus emphasizes that,
hey, you need something to be done to you.
It's not one more deed.
it's not more one more virtuous act or generous donation or one more, you know,
series of letters behind your name, academically speaking.
Another watch.
Yeah.
No, he's just say, hey, you need a miracle of God.
And I want to just pause here and say that sometimes when we talk about emphasizing that it's a work of God,
it's a miracle of God, we're done at our sin, people maybe type in the comments.
And I say this with no axe to grind, and I hope you hear my heart in this.
Like, oh, that's Calvinism.
Listen, no guy made this up 500 years ago.
Paul says we are dead in our sin.
That's not like an analogy.
It's a reality.
He says, we're dead in our sin.
Roman says that we're slaves to sin.
Jesus says, you need a miracle to Nicodemus.
So when you talk about the power necessary for salvation,
that's not something a guy made up 500 years ago.
That's just a biblical reality.
That's just over and over again throughout the Bible.
And this isn't like a clobber passage in favor of Calvinist.
This is something that you see like, oh, no, just like God in Corinthians, Paul says,
needed to say let there be light to a dark universe.
He has to say, let there be light to a darkened heart, and that's a work of God.
Now, you mentioned it.
Not only is the sovereignty of God and salvation seen in this passage, so is this necessity of human responsibility.
So right after elevating God's power, the necessary miracle that needs to take place in a heart,
Jesus then provides this illustration in Nicodemus of just as Israel was in the wilderness,
and he takes him back to the number 21, and you can go back and listen to these last couple episodes.
But there's a story Jesus tells where the Israelites complained,
and then as a punishment, God sent fiery serpents into the wilderness,
and they bit many of the people and they died.
And the only way that they were saved
is if they looked to a bronze serpent lifted up on a pole.
And Jesus is saying, hey, yes, on the one hand, there's a miracle.
And then on the other hand, you are responsible.
It's not either or if you try to elevate one at the expense of another,
you're going to come up with a warped theology.
So you can't have like, no, we do nothing theology.
It's all God's sovereignty.
And you can't say, well, it's all human responsibility.
and God's just there kind of riding his hands together saying,
I hope, I hope, I hope.
It's a both-in reality.
And Jesus is punctuating those twin truths home to Nicodemus as we come up to this,
I would say, the most famous verse in scripture.
Well, and you actually hit the nail on the head.
I want to dive in here and I want to be conscious of getting into the meat of this passage.
I also, I'm realizing you might have a challenge or anytime we come to these types of verses,
it's good to actually see them with fresh eyes.
Yeah, fresh eyes.
And I was telling you beforehand,
I remember I went to Norway with some of my best friends.
We were there seeing the fjords,
which is a fun word to say.
Nice pronunciation.
Yeah, and you go,
and there's this place that we went to called Trultunga.
It's like one of this,
it's amazing, like, cliff rock overhanging these fjords.
And there's this guy that, like, live there.
And I remember asking him, hey, what's it like to live here?
And it's by far the most beautiful place I've ever been in my life, for sure.
It's like you see it and you go, man, this place is amazing.
And I said, what's it like living here?
And he said, what do you mean?
And it was just, I was like, what do you mean?
What do I mean?
This is amazing.
And you just come to realize that familiarity breeds apathy.
And familiarity mutes our ability to see things and be shocked and in awe of what's in front of us.
That's how it is as we come to this verse in scripture, it's like it's so familiar to us,
John 316, for God so love the world that he gave his only begot and the sun.
And that's in the context.
this conversation with Dicademus.
And I just pray that we're not so familiar with this truth
that it kind of like goes in one of year and out the other.
I remember Sinclair Ferguson saying something,
and we're going to look at this passage,
the greater the love, the greater the love or the greater the love.
The lesser the object of love, the greater the love.
And then he says, the greater the expression of love,
the greater the love.
And I know that's kind of like a lot,
but I just want to walk through this passage
and look first at the lover.
It says, for God so love the world.
And most commentators agree
that this is actually the narrator speaking.
at this point. So Sinclair Ferguson says, the greater the lover, the greater the love. And so we just
got to ask the question, who is the one that loves the world? God. God himself. Why is that significant?
Well, in John's Gospel so far, we've seen that Jesus, God is the creator of the universe. In the
beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. That word for word in John
1-1 is the Greek word logos. That is the being or the mind that the Greeks attributed to being
the power behind the universe, that everything was finally tuned.
Terraclides is the one that said you can't step into a river twice,
because once you step into it, it kept on moving.
And he noticed that the world was constantly evolving,
and yet there was a symmetry and beauty and harmony.
And he said, there's got to be something out there.
And they refer to that as the Lagos.
And they thought the Lagos was an impersonal abstract force.
And John says, no, no, the Lagos is God himself.
And God isn't distant from the world.
He loves the world.
And this is at least initially,
you got to ask the question,
is it shocking to you that God loves you?
If not, you have a small view of God, right?
Because the Greeks would have said,
hey, who's the one that made all this?
This is Psalm 8.
When I look at the stars, the moon in the heavens that you made,
what is the man that you are mindful of them?
And yet we become so familiar with this
that I think we just kind of move past it so quickly.
And even when you ask a question, like, has it occurred to you that God loves you?
It's not some impersonal you as in like, oh, yeah, totally.
No, it's like, no, you.
Yeah, and I think we sometimes look at it from the macro perspective because world is so big.
Totally.
So let's look at the object.
Sinclair Ferguson says, the greater the lover, the greater the love.
The lesser the object of love, the greater that love.
Now, who's the object of the love of God?
Well, the world.
Over and over again, though, throughout John's gospel, John will use the term world,
not to refer to those who are children of God,
but to those who are entrapped
and entrenched and fallen humanity.
Now, how does God love the world?
How does he love those who are lost?
Well, Jesus says in Matthew
that the rain falls on the just and the unjust,
meaning people that reject God
are still experiencing his love.
In Psalm 145, verse 9,
it says, the Lord is good to all,
and his mercy is over all that he has made.
So an unbeliever can experience the blessings of God.
They can marry a woman they love,
they can wake up in the morning,
have a cup of coffee with a little bit of half and half.
Ice coffee, obviously.
Get saved.
Half and a half?
No, what?
Purist.
They can watch a sunset, they can watch a game, whatever it may be.
That is God's general love for the world.
And he demonstrates his love through the apologetic of creation,
the heaven's declared the glory of God.
And he demonstrates this love by the reality also that he has written his law upon their hearts.
So this is for everybody.
This is the macro level, meaning God does love the world.
and everybody in it.
And I used to even feel this tension.
I don't even know if it makes sense,
but you grew up in the church
and maybe you've kind of had the same thought process.
Like, could I go into a room full of people
that were saved and unsaved and say,
God loves you?
I don't know if God loves you.
You know, some of them may be under the judgment of God.
But you could biblically say, no, God loves you.
You could go up to any sinner in your life,
any stranger on the sidewalk and say,
God loves you.
Now, there's another truth that we'll examine in a moment,
but I think sometimes even not like,
does God love them?
Well, yeah, he does love them.
And D.A. Carson says, what's amazing about God's love for the world is not that it is so big,
but rather it is so bad. It is full of sinners. And this is the truth we've been examining.
Titus 3-4 says, but when the kindness of God our Savior, and watch this, and his love for mankind
appeared, he saved us, meaning it's not just that God loves the redeemed. He obviously does
love them in a special way, but it says his love for mankind. He loves us.
those who are made in his image and you know there's a coffee shop in town where you're like if you go
to that coffee shop you're going to see probably like someone with pink hair lots of piercings lots of
piercings tattoos and you would look at them and think they want nothing to do with the Jesus I love
and serve and the testimony of scripture is God loves that individual he cares for that individual
they're made in the image of God God does
pronounce condemnation on sinners, but he loves them so much that he sends his son as a
savior so that they might escape his judgment.
And God does hate sin and not just punish sin.
He punishes sinners, but the reality of Scripture is, do I take any pleasure in the punishment
at the wicked declares the Lord?
And the answer is no, he doesn't get his jolies from that.
He is a just God, but he loves to save sinners and he loves mankind.
Okay, Sinclair Ferguson continues and says, the greater the lover, the greater the love.
Okay, that's God.
Meaning if God is big and glorious and awesome and massive,
then the love that he has is going to be big and glorious, right?
The lesser the object, the greater the lover.
Meaning like, okay, what's the object of God's love?
It's people that are unworthy, right?
It's the world.
It's not awesome people.
It's sinful people.
And then he says, the greater the expression of that love,
a great God with a great love to an unworthy group of people,
undeserving.
What's the expression that demonstrates God's love for unworthy sin?
earth, he gives his one and only son.
That's why it says in 316,
for God so love the world that he gave
his only begotten son, that whoever believes
in him shall not perish but have everlasting
life. If you were to ask
the question,
how much does God
love the world? So much
that he gave his one and
only son.
We see this idea throughout
the New Testament, Matthew 317,
this is my beloved son. Romans
8.3. Paul says,
for what the law could not do weak as it was through the flesh,
God did sending his own son in the likeness of sinful flesh,
his own son as an offering for sin.
And when the father did send the son,
he wasn't sending a reluctant son,
but he was sending a son that was eager to save.
I don't know Hank about you,
but,
or like if you've kind of experienced this,
but sometimes God is kind of presented in this way
where God the father is the judge.
Yeah, totally.
And Jesus is the one who really loves sinners.
Is that fair?
Yeah.
Well, I feel like I would have identified.
with that, especially at younger stages of my faith.
And there's part of it that we read passages like the Holy Spirit is interceding on behalf of us.
Yeah, he really cares for us.
So there's this practical point of like, okay, well, God's like holding back his smite from the work of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
But like, man, if I came into the hands of God, the Father, without Jesus and the Holy Spirit, I'd be toast.
Burnt.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I think that this idea is it is God the Father who sends the son.
It says, for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son.
And when Jesus came, it says in Philippians 2, and you know the passage that have this mind in you that was also in Christ Jesus,
who although he existed in the Morphi Deo, Ortheo, he existed in the form of God,
did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but he emptied himself and he took on the form of a servant or a
slave. I mean that when Jesus came, when God sent his only son, he didn't empty himself of
divinity, but he emptied himself into humanity. He didn't cease to be all that he was for all of
eternity, but he took on flesh. Love's question is, how low will you stoop for me? And the answer
from scripture is that Jesus came down from heaven to a world that he had created, to a people
that would reject him to die. Why? Well, only God can reconcile.
to himself. And it's not just that he gave his son, it's that he sent his son to die and that
there was a mission here. Jesus says in John 10, I have authority to lay it down. He's saying,
I'm going to lay down my own life. And he goes, I have authority to take it up again.
And this is the charge I have received from my father. So he came to die. And this is kind of the great
truth where we talk about God's love, but you can't understand God's love until you understand
the world that he sent his son to, rejects.
He affected him, killed him, and this is fundamentally undeserved.
In the last verse you said, it just, we glossed over it, but the point that Jesus didn't come down reluctantly.
As a parent, I'm just getting mental images of like telling my son, no, you need to go pick that up and bring it back and put it down.
And it's like, no.
And you're like, okay, you work through the no until finally.
Your kid disobeys.
Yeah.
And they'll like trudge over and pick it up.
It's not that kind of obedience here.
It's Jesus on his own accord laying down his life.
No.
In submission to the will of the Father.
Yeah, and what made him come?
Well, it says in Titus 3-5 again,
that when his love for mankind appeared,
but it says when the kindness and his love for mankind appeared,
I love that idea because God's love is not a subject.
It's an incarnated reality.
God's love is not a thing.
He's a person, and he came in the form of Jesus Christ.
Now, let's look at the extent.
It says that God so love the world,
that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever,
Who is this love for
Whosoever? And this is shocking
in Nicodemus. Why? Well, because Nicodemus
is a racist. They would have
believed that salvation was only for the Jews and when the
Messiah came, he was going to punish all of the other nations.
You may not be Jewish,
but you may have adopted Nicodemus's
thinking that salvation is for people
like me, not for people
like them, but the
free gift of God is available
for
whosoever.
Whosoever. I want you just to listen
to the testimony of Scripture.
John 316, whoever believes in him.
Romans 10.11, for the scripture says,
whosoever believes on him will not be disappointed.
Romans 10, 13, whosoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
John 11, 26, whoever lives and believes in me shall never die.
Acts 2.21, and it shall come to pass that whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
Acts 1043, same thing.
John 737, if anyone thirst, John 6, I am the bread of life.
Whoever hungers.
Isaiah 55, everyone who thirst.
I'm so thankful there is no limit to the offer of salvation.
I actually like this story.
Richard Baxter, the great Puritan, said,
I am so glad the text says,
whosoever, because if the passage said,
for God so loved the world,
that if Richard Baxter believes in him,
he shall not perish but have everlasting life.
He says, I'd be worried that the scripture was speaking
about another Richard Baxter.
But I know, he says, I know,
I am included in the broad scope of whosoever.
And before we brush forward, just again,
in the spirit of hearing these words anew,
that's an encouragement to,
if you haven't placed your faith in Jesus,
hold on to this reality,
that whosoever does can and will be saved.
And for those who've placed their faith in Jesus,
who are struggling either with unconfessed sin,
that they need to confess,
this truth needs to be at the forefront of your mind,
of like what an amazing work Christ did on behalf of us
and that whosoever believes in him.
And so there's the challenge of like live in accordance with that reality,
but that it's so basic that we can blow by it,
unpacking all the theology behind it,
that just the plain fact is amazing.
Well, it should bring us to our knees.
It should make us really thankful.
And I want to continue to go to like the means.
Like, okay, whosoever what?
What's the means?
How can a man be made right with God?
And this is going along with what you're saying.
How can someone escape the just judgment of God?
How can I be safe from eternal hell?
Well, this is the message of Christianity.
Whosoever, what?
Believes.
Faith.
Not by things you do, not by religion, not by morality, philanthropy, pedigree, ministerial ability, faith.
So if I'm going to press on it?
Believe in what?
If we're going to keep pulling this down into the practical applicable.
Well, I would say, just I'll get there in a second.
Ephesians 2.8 says, for by grace, you have been saved through.
faith, not as a result of work so that how many people can boast?
No one.
No one can boast.
This has always been the one way that God has reconciled sinners to himself.
I previously said, and we talked about, that the scope of the gospel is available to all.
This is a broad invitation.
But the blessings of the gospel are limited to those who receive it by faith.
And this is worth harping on.
Faith is the only channel by which God dispenses his saving grace.
Hebrews 116. Without faith, it is impossible to please God. So what do we need to believe?
Well, let's start with the bare minimum, right? Romans 10-9, if you confess with your mouth,
Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
So you need to believe that Jesus is God. This is the theme of John's argument in John's gospel.
Jesus is not just another teacher. He's not just a healer. He's not just a miracle worker. He's not just a prophet.
He is the creator of the universe.
He's God.
If you believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord,
that he died for your sins.
Why did he do this?
Well, because of his great love,
but that he died on the cross.
And this shows the magnitude of His holiness,
the severity of our sin,
his mercy, his grace, right?
Well, we've been talking about the expression of his love.
Yeah, and that he rose again.
Paul says if there's no resurrection, there's no gospel.
So you'd have to believe at least that, right?
That he's God, that he died, and that he rose.
and what is saving faith?
And this is kind of like, you're never adding to the gospel when you, it's hard because on the one hand,
if you believe that, someone could very well be saved, right?
And then, but sometimes John highlights what belief is.
And I just want to at least without reading into it or without like presenting some argument,
like I'm afraid.
First of all, and I would say, you should preach the gospel in a way where people are concerned
that it is going to produce easy believism.
Right? Like Paul says in Roman 6, what shall we continue to sin so that grace may abound? May it never be?
But he only gets there after making it seem like, hey, all you have to do is place your faith in Christ.
Right, right. So it's like- It's chapters in.
Yeah. So like sometimes there's just like, oh, I really want to fight against cheap grace.
And then you start preaching the gospel in a way that's like, well, that's not the way Jesus preached the gospel or the apostles did.
And then there's this other side of things where it's like, all you got to do is raise a hand and you're saved and believe some facts.
And this is maybe the shortcoming of doing this in podcast form because you don't know how the listeners hearing it and what context they're coming from.
But to your point, you're trying to marry this reality of it has to be simple enough that a childlike faith can truly take root.
Yeah, four-year-olds can believe that Jesus is God, that he died on the cross, and then he rose from the dead.
And whoever calls on the name of the Lord, Romans 1013, will be saved.
And yet those intellectual...
They have this whole people, well, the demons believe in Shutter.
That's where I was just about to go.
I was saying, and yet those intellectual facts don't necessarily reveal that you are repenting
and placing your faith in that person of Jesus.
Yeah, and then the thing is like, well, what is repentance?
And then you get caught up and everything.
And I would just say, well, truthfully, the demons do believe in Shutter.
They affirm these facts.
So what is saving belief?
And I just want to be as simple as possible once again.
John 1.11 says, he came into his own and his own did not receive him.
but to all who did receive him, who believed in his name,
he gave the right to become children of God.
So in John 1, 11, and 12,
to believe in Jesus is to receive Jesus.
To receive Jesus is to believe him.
It says, for all who received him, comma, who believed in his name.
So to receive him as what?
I would just say for all that he is, right?
He's your king, he's your savior, he's your friend.
And I think that the reception of, I need his work in my life.
There's a humility.
You don't have to know all the answers.
And then here's this promise.
It says, for God's to love the world that he gave his only begotten son,
that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
15 times in John's Gospel, we read it this reality of being, of inheriting eternal life.
It's not so much quantity of life, it's quality of life.
And we'll get to this, even as I'm preaching through John 17 in a couple weeks.
This is eternal life that they may know you.
Eternal life is not just living forever.
It's the space time.
It's not just the space time continuum.
them. It's a deep personal relationship with Jesus Christ. And this goes back like, what is saving
faith? Well, it's eternal life is not just, okay, you get out of hell. Yeah. You get out of jail
free card upon your death. Yeah. And I would say that if you come to Christ and you're just
afraid of hell, first of all, that's a good reason to come to Christ. I remember someone telling
John McArthur, like, I'm afraid that the only reason I ever came to Jesus in the first place was
because I was afraid of going to hell and I wanted to be saved.
And John was like, that's a good place to start.
Right?
Because sometimes people, if all that you wanted from Christ is to not go to hell,
and I understand what people are saying.
Yeah, because they're driving at there's no Jesus.
Yeah, you don't love Jesus.
I understand, but it's like, well, listen, this is what Jesus came to save us from.
And it says, whoever believes in him will not perish.
Like, there's that right behind you.
So he gives us eternal life, which is more than just getting out of hell.
It is a rich personal relationship with Jesus.
And then there's this reality in the next verse.
Now, verse 17 is probably one of the most misinterpreted
and misapplied verses in the Bible.
It reads this,
For God did not send the sun into the world to judge the world,
but that the world might be saved through him.
People read this and say, you know what?
See Jesus?
God isn't judgmental.
Jesus never condemned.
Jesus just loved.
Yeah, and it would be true that Jesus did come,
Luke 1910, to seek and to save the lost.
but can I tell you the reason why it says
that Jesus did not come to judge the world or to condemn
it tells us in John 318
he who believes in him is not judged
he who does not believe has been judged already
because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten son
the reason Jesus did not come to judge
is because the world is not waiting to be judged
and again this is not like some doctrine
this is just I'm reading it
Okay, this is not, so if anybody going, this is Calvinism, this is not Calvinism.
I'm just going to read the verse, okay, and I say this, and I'm not trying to push back in anyone.
It says, for God so love the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life.
Love it.
For God did not send the sun into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through him.
He who believes in him is not judged.
he who does not believe has been judged already
because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten son of God.
This is something that I think we lose sight of
is the verdict is already in
and the only way to reverse the verdict
is to place our faith in Jesus Christ
and I think sometimes there is that future judgment.
That was actually going to be my question
is maybe for someone listening,
there's this element of like, yeah,
but I haven't stood before the throne of God yet.
literally banished to hell or admitted into heaven for just the extreme example.
And so practically, what does it mean that I've been judged already if I haven't been judged?
Yeah, I mean, we could talk about it in a different way.
You know, its own episode, there is one day going to be a great white throne judgment.
Everything is going to be in Revelation, all of our deeds, everything.
But as far as this sentence from the Holy Judge of the universe, it's not way to do.
to be delivered. And this is where people are like, well, then, wait a second, does that mean that, like,
I have no responsibility because of the very, no, because the passage says right here, believe, believe, believe,
believe. So you can't elevate that human responsibility and then ignore this reality. The Bible says
that we are conceived iniquity. Psalm 51.5. You know, Pope Francis said a couple years ago that people are
fundamentally good. There are some rogues and sinners, but people are fundamentally good. No, the
Bible says we're conceived in iniquity. It says we're born children of wrath. We're not waiting for
the sentence to be passed. It has already been passed. There's nothing that still needs to be
determined. The judge has already declared. Now, with that, it says we can be saved. We can be saved.
We can have this, we can have someone come in and absorb the sentence for us, right? We can have
someone that takes our debt of sin. And if we don't believe in it, it says we will, what, perish?
Which means that what? Everyone who does not believe in the sense.
son will what?
Perish.
Perish.
So there's a couple things.
It says in Ephesians, too, that we're already under the wrath of God.
It says here in John 336, he who believes in the sun has eternal life, but he who does not
obey the son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.
So you can say the same thing about God's wrath.
So is God's wrath one day, something that one day people are going to experience, or is
it something that they're under right now?
Well, in one sense, yes.
And in another sense, yeah, there will be the finality of that judgment in the future.
And again, this isn't anybody's like theology.
I'm just reading the verses.
And so maybe if we just keep pressing on this,
what comes to mind is almost a response to like,
well, why doesn't everyone receive Jesus?
Well, the passage tells us,
this is the judgment, John 319,
that the light has come into the world,
and men love the darkness rather than the light
for their deeds were evil.
For everyone who does evil hates the light
and does not come to the light for fear
that his deeds will be exposed.
The Bible never says that people don't come to Jesus
because they weren't elect.
And I think this is kind of like one of those things where, well, what's the point?
If God, that's never the same Bible that has Romans 9, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, has a Romans 10, right?
How will they call on him who they've never heard?
You can't separate, you can't have Romans 10 without Romans 9, and we've talked about this.
But it says here that people don't come to Jesus because they love the darkness rather than the light.
It's never because of a lack of evidence.
It's that they love sin.
and this is why the gospel so
repeatedly
touches on the reality of sin
like even Jesus, you know, I
one time heard Kevin Deunce say that
Jesus as the great physician
presents different remedies for different diseases
like the gospel is presented different ways
to different people like to the woman at the well he says
I'll give you living water but he also
confronts her in her sin and says hey you're right you don't have a husband
he's had five and the man that you're living with now isn't your husband
at all he confronts her
with her sin and that is
necessary and I think
sometimes in preaching people
in either sharing the gospel or preaching
the gospel, confuse the benefits
of the gospel with the
necessities of the gospel. What I mean
by that is they'll talk about how
Jesus is going to fill the hole in your heart,
that he'll satisfy your soul, that
he'll give you meaning and purpose and
value. Those things are all true.
But the fundamental
reason Jesus came at
the core is to save us
from our sin. And John 316
says, whoever believes in him,
shall not perish. That means if you do not believe in him, you will perish. And then not only does
he save you from perishing, he does give you satisfaction at the soul level. He will give you
a future home in heaven and all these other things. But I think we confuse that and we present
the benefits before the necessity of the gospel. Yeah. And we, that, to me, it's speaking to the
urgency. Like, why do we need to go share the gospel? Because if we go back to Numbers 21,
because we have the poison of the snakes already in our bloodstream.
Like, we're going to die.
We're under judgment from 3.18.
Yeah, Hebrews 9.
It is a point for men to die once.
Then comes judgment.
Kind of going back to your question.
But why is the Messiah called Jesus?
Well, Gabriel tells Joseph, you shall call his name Jesus,
for he will save his people from their sins.
This is what people need.
And I think it's just worth asking if you've been,
if you're listening or watching, have you trusted Jesus.
It would be true to say and biblical to say he loves you.
And God loves you, and that is why he's sent his son to die for your sin.
And if you believe in him, going back to the bare minimum, if you place your faith in Jesus Christ, you can put your name in this category.
There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
Just a final story as we close.
D.L. Moody, in 1871, he was preaching on Jesus' trial before Pilate.
And he came to the end of his message on Matthew 2722, which the question is asked,
what shall I do then what Jesus who is called to Christ,
it's Pilots question.
And he concluded and said, I wish you to take this text home with you
and turn it over in your minds during the next week.
And the next Sabbath we will come to Calvary in the cross
and we will decide what to do with Jesus of Nazareth.
So Pilate says, what shall I do with Jesus?
And he says, go think about it.
And this is where D.L. Moody ends the sermon.
He ended the sermon there.
And he would later call the conclusion of that sermon
the greatest mistake of his life.
For while they were singing the final hymn after a sermon,
the fire engines begin to sound on the street,
and Moody's church was burnt down,
and a thousand people were killed.
And many of those who may have thought they had time to think it over,
were lost in the fire.
And he vowed to never again tell people to think it over.
And he began to press people home until the rest of his life.
Don't go think it over.
If you don't know the Lord Jesus,
you need to know that he loves you.
And then he came to save you from your sin.
and today is the day of salvation.
Do not harden your hearts.
Do not neglect his voice.
Come to him and there's an urgency.
Today is the day of salvation.
And maybe you're listening to this
and I hope that the reminders of scripture are encouraging.
But everybody has someone in their life
that doesn't know the Lord Jesus.
And I want to be thinking of the person
that's like kind of close.
They seem like pretty clean cut, ready for a savior.
I don't you to think of someone in your life
that maybe gives the impression
that they are so far from God.
and then they're recognized that the Bible says,
God loves that sinner.
And he sent his son to die for that individual
so that if they believe in,
then they would not perish but have everlasting life.
And then there are all of those benefits of the gospel.
He will satisfy their soul.
He'll give them a home in glory and so forth.
And the point, I think it's worth driving home.
The point is isn't some artificial, like, game show.
Yeah, so you've got to go do it right now, like before the buzzer.
No, there's a practical weighty gravity to this.
No.
If you're presented with literally the highest priority decision anyone will ever make in their life.
That's the stakes of the conversation.
It's not like, oh, check the box before it's too late.
The discount's going to end.
It's like, no, no, no.
But wait.
Yeah.
Yeah, when you're faced with something that is quite literally the most important decision,
you or anyone you know will ever make, that is the only appropriate response.
Yeah, and I think you just have to go, how did Jesus present the gospel?
Right?
he's the most patient man that ever lived.
How did he present the gospel?
Well, he doesn't go, hey, go think it over
and maybe I'll get to it in five years.
No, he said, unless you believe that I'm he,
you will die in your sin.
Well, and we've been talking about this over four episodes.
These take place over a matter of a few verses
in one conversation.
In one conversation, he gets to the heart of the matter.
And so it is true that God loves the world
and he loves sinners.
And even in my own heart,
I think sometimes we live in a culture
that abuses the love of God
at the expense of his other attributes.
It's like there's churches that never talk about his holiness or his justice.
And hey, God loves you just the way you are.
I don't want to flip to the other side of the spectrum and say, no, he's just holy.
No, what makes God holy is that even his love is unlike any other type of love.
It's a holy love.
And what makes God's love so unique is that it's expressed and demonstrated,
not to those who are worthy of it, but God demonstrates his own love towards us and this,
that while we were yet what?
Sinners.
He died for us.
And that's available to anybody you know.
right now. Thanks for
unpacking this, Johnny. Yeah, thanks, Hank.
