Dice Shame - 2-160 | 'Put Your Feet Up'

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We were drunk fighting. Damn, I'm using that. It was all my brilliant idea to have the Von and Dodd stuck. It is more complicated, as you say. I don't know exactly what we want to do. I don't know. They just didn't want us around. I think we can bring them back around.
Starting point is 00:00:16 What are you making? They're the ones that are like war for. I don't want to be around people even when they want me around. It's right. It's just the closest place. On your back, Doran, Ork Splitter is kind of whispering in your ear. She's like, you hardly killed anything. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Stop it. Quiet. Welcome back to Dice Shame. This is Season 2, episode 160. Put your feet up. MVP this week is our good friend, Erica, who may have won before, but is only listening to season two now. And I want her to season two now. to hear this. So, congratulations, Erica. You're this week's MVP. All right. Should we play some D&D?
Starting point is 00:01:05 Yeah, let's do it. Woo. Is, like, one of the D&D elite. Well, what I mean to say is... I thought you were going to say. We all know Vin Diesel. Diesel, right? Wait, you don't know Vin? Oh, Vin? No, but like, I would say Vin Diesel, to my recollection, is like, sort of famously one of the, I'm going to use air quotes, A-list actors that openly was like, oh, yeah, I play D&D. And like, whether you know it or not, him playing it was pretty like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:01:51 You know what I mean? I think he mentioned it like five years ago or maybe even longer. It was before Critical Role and all that kind of stuff. I didn't know this. This is news to me. Well, now you know. Is that because he's kind of bro-y and everyone was like, oh, secret nerd?
Starting point is 00:02:05 I think it was more just the fact that people were like, oh, like everyone plays D&D. It was on Conan, and Conan was this very interesting foil. I think if I'm remembering the bit that they kind of did, right? Where Conan really played up the idea, not that it was weird, but that there were people out there like who were excited that Vindiesel was mentioning it. And it was a very interesting precipice of cool, like, level for D&D to be on at the time. Yeah, exactly, because at that time, Vindiesel was still cool, I guess. But anyway, so my question tonight is...
Starting point is 00:02:39 Are you kidding me? Kick Jason Statham's ass. Okay, well, so my question is, what celebrity that does not knowingly, I was going to say canonically, but that does not openly celebrate D&D, do you think would be either an excellent player or potentially an excellent DM? Oh, I really. And who do you think could never play D&D? I'm talking about A-listers.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I don't think Harrison Ford will ever, ever play D&D. That's actually a great example. He'd be like this stupid. He's a cool guy, and I like him a lot in theory. Hold on. What do you mean you like him a lot in theory? Because I don't think in practice I would actually really like him. Oh, I thought you were going to.
Starting point is 00:03:18 You wanted to do that. Oh, Nick was pointing at me like, in theory, because I don't actually know this person. It's like, yeah, third point. Yeah. That's what I mean. Yes, because I think, like, in practice, the people, people are different people than they are in public. People are different people. I would also say in practice, I probably wouldn't like Harrison Ford.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Not even, I, he seems really grumpy to me. That's what I mean. He's a grump. He just got that. I think he's got that face, you know. He's got a face that says, I'm a bit of a grump. Yeah. He's Indiana Jones.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Yeah. I got to say 100% I could see playing with Jeff Goldblum for whatever reason. Oh, he's in a TV show. Oh, man, see. Yeah, sorry. I mean, it's a very good suggestion. Yeah. Look, I love.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Dark dice. Dark dice. Yeah. I love that people were shocked about Vin Diesel. I think it's more, I'm going to go in a different direction here, but I think it's more how we create an assumption about people based on who they are or how they look, what they do, you know what I mean, right? Like, you know, Vin Diesel, I was like, no, I, I, he's not a nerd is what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:04:38 What's the word, what's the word I'm looking for? You don't judge a book by its cover. A shame to say that I did. I was like, oh, that's interesting to know because like that does shock me a bit. Probably because we just finished watching the fast and furious, like a bunch of those movies. Oh, yeah. So that's why I say he kicked
Starting point is 00:04:54 Jason Statham's ass But that's the thing Okay, so I'm trying to remember this So I have a friend who is obsessed With the Fast and the Furious And he said Because what is it? He's like learning all the minutia around
Starting point is 00:05:06 And like behind the scene stuff So apparently He's learning the minutia of Fast and the Furious Hey you know what? That sounds like Eric But like all the behind the scene stuff Jason Statham Vin Diesel and the Rock
Starting point is 00:05:18 have in their contracts for the Fast and the Furious movies that none of their characters can lose in a one-on-one fight to either of the other two characters. So whenever they're fighting, there's always some, like, Deos X Machina, like, something happens that ends the fight. That's right. There's a baby cross in the street.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Legally, who wins. Scree! That's so fun. An eagle? That basically happened. That's fucking funny. And he even comes back, I think. He, like, doesn't kill him.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Anyways. I think Vin Diesel and the Rock, like, hate each other, don't they? Is that true? Maybe. But they were all in the movies. We are just fully starting rumors here. I heard it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I got to say, I really liked those, that group of people together in the, in the, um. You're a Fast and the Furious Stan. Yeah. As they call them. Like those, those series, I like the people. See, the thing is, though, when you think about it, Vin Diesel's not like nerdy. Every actor is nerdy. Because, like, every actor is just playing another character.
Starting point is 00:06:19 That's true. He's just Vin Diesel. Leonardo DiCaprio, Alex, wasn't Jack, last name. Jack Titanic. Yeah. Jack Titanic, right? Leo wasn't Jack Titanic from the titular Titanic series. The eponymous Titanic, obviously.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Hi, I'm Jack Titanic. I'm Rose Iceberg. Wow. So what actor do you think, Nick, would be a good one? I feel like, I know you hate Brennan Fraser. You hate its guys. First of all, stop, stop it. I will not have this kind of.
Starting point is 00:06:55 What is it? Slander against Slander. We do call him Brendi in this house. I don't know when that started. I don't know. I don't know why this jumped into my head, but I feel like Steve Martin would be fun to play with. Ooh, I like that.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I do feel like we might need to, like, be a little handholdy with him. Or he'd be really on, too. Well, he just suffers from old. I don't know. Like, yeah, like Martin Short would be. too much for me. I'd be like, just stop, like, stop. Martin Short and Vindiesel. What a pair. That's the dynamic.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Are they friends? Obviously. Vin Diesel's friends with everybody. That's fair. But there's a special kind of, because here's the thing is like, he plays the banjo, you know, he's, he's like a seasoned improviser and stand-up comic. So true. He, like, I don't know, he's a writer. He has great, like, sense of storytelling. I feel like those are some, some. excellent building blocks and then everything else is just learning rules.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Steve Martin is that's so true definitely someone that we've appreciated along the way I will say Harlan and I at least just don't watch Looney Tunes back in action okay done so bad in that understood like his performance like makes you crit you know I was about to watch that this but I will resist that was what I was going to do after we finish recording yeah watch a different Joe Dante film. I think, oh, you know who I wouldn't want to play with? Who wouldn't you want to play with? Why not?
Starting point is 00:08:24 No, hard disagree. Why would you not want to play with Brad Pitt? I also disagree. Why not? Goofy Brad Pitt is my favorite Brad Pitt in the world. Idiot Brad Pitt is my favorite Brad Pitt. I was trying to think of someone who like comes off is like too serious too often. Yeah, I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to run a game for someone who's too cool.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I do kind of agree like I feel like Harrison's order to be a little too grumpy about it, kind of. So that's that, I mean, any actor or comedian, I feel, that, that's what's beautiful to me is it's sort of the default, is people can just sort of dive into it. Yeah. Okay, here's, here's why I'm running into trouble. I'll be specific about this. To accuse someone of not being, Harrison Ford's a beautiful exception, because I don't even know if he's just putting forth this persona, but it's like, I'm going to be grumpy about it. And that's the acid that will dissolve the beautiful thing that is the delicate, like, paper. machet of d and d is just enough skepticism kind of piled up on it but a lot of people if i accuse
Starting point is 00:09:22 someone of being generally speaking not like working well with d and d i feel like that's such a heavy accusation to level at them very often it's a ven diagram overlap of like i also wouldn't want to just spend any time with them whatsoever so it's a it's a harsh it's a harsh thing to say but i thought That's fair. If you're not a D&D player, Tim doesn't want anything to do with you. I'm maybe prejudiced. But that's the thing is, I don't actually think it's a harsh criticism. And I think it's actually one that people should feel more comfortable expressing just in their, like, table games and their home games.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Because the thing is, is it's like, there's no wrong way to play D&D. There's just a wrong table to play that way. Do you know what I mean? I agree with that. And as long as they're all grouped together, people can care only about the role. play and as long as they're all work, you just have to be on the same page with your table. It's a great way to put it. I'll tell you something.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I would play Calla Cthulhu with Harrison Ford all day every day. I bet he'd be fucking great. Especially if you got serious, I could see him being like, I'm walking down the road. You know what I mean? It's a really good haul. Okay. I just thought of something. I wouldn't want to play with someone who's like typecast.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Now that being said. Kramer? Now that being said. I wouldn't want to play with. with Kramer for other reasons that that led into I let I was led into that because I was thinking Liam Neeson and how funny it would be to play if he's like constantly going back to I will find you and I will kill you like yeah you went over with that one Liam all right can you just move on from it he's done other stuff it's the internet that won't let go I guess my point is you wouldn't
Starting point is 00:11:07 play with quigon gin that's a bad example of because he's not he's not why because he would wave his hand and the dice would roll to a 20. Oh, pretty good. Okay, here's a, here's a quick one then. What celebrity, if you found out they were like a diehard D&D fan, would you just be elated by? Would you just be like, oh, I like them so much more now? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:32 Like someone you're like, I've always thought a lot about them, but knowing that they play a lot and really like it, that makes me feel. I mean, can I continue with the Star Wars track and say Ewan McGregor? Oh, yeah. Could you imagine? I would love that. Zendaya. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:47 That would be so cool. A million percent. And she's like, and she's like all the books out too. And like there's like a photo of her in her like trailer with like all the D&D books. She's like making notes. Yeah. Does it have to be an actor, actress or can it be just like I, I feel like a random
Starting point is 00:12:02 scientist is probably my answer. What's that guy's Brian Cox? The Astrophysicist. Yes. The guitarist from Queen? The, yes. Isn't that Brian May? I would love to see Brian Cox play D&D.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Absolutely. Yeah. Not Neil deGrasse Tyson, though. We're good. No, no. He's not a scientist. He's never a scientist. No, that wouldn't really happen.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Not a scientist, wow. He's a science celebrity. Oh, fair enough. Well, Brian Cox had a series, too, Cosmos, didn't he? Isn't it a Carl Sagan? No, he, it was originally Carl Sagan, and he did the new. Bill Nye. Stephen Frye.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Stephen Frye is one if he played D&D.C. Or Hugh Lorry. Yeah. Would be fun. I know I would be elated to find out if Arnold Schwarzenegger played. He'd be like, y'all. Give me the dice. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Let me put on my accent. Don't I'm not going to be a barbarian again. I want to be rogue. I've always played barbarian. All right. Give me something else. Drop it. Good to kill these giants.
Starting point is 00:13:09 This is me doing Arnold doing a French accent. I have me, how are you doing? A bonjour. Come on so va. That would be pretty... Kevin Costner for me, because I'm a big Kevin Costner fan.
Starting point is 00:13:23 That would be a real win for me. Yeah, of course. I love that guy. Yeah, yeah. Lee Pace. This is me, Arnold. Playing a very slight... Kate Blanchett.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Oh, yeah. Yeah, there you go. I think what we've really found out is that Tim clearly has run games for celebrities. Yes. Because his answer was so... Very diplomatic. I have to be very careful.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah. Tim's like Mel Gibson came up to me and was like. What I reveal exactly. Mel Gibson played the worst character. He's like, I will not, I will not DM for Mel Gibson anymore. Well, there's that Joe Magdalione. That's the one that I think had Vin Diesel in it as well. Yeah, and that had like the guitarist Tom.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Slare. No. Morello? Yes, Tom Morello and Vince Vaughn. Vince Vaughn, yeah, wasn't it? Okay. Which I was surprised he played, me too.
Starting point is 00:14:14 So now we've landed on someone who I think, this is someone who I probably wouldn't enjoy it, not that they wouldn't be good at it, not that there wouldn't be good at it, not that there wouldn't be good to watch. I don't think I'd want to play with Vince Vaughn. I would love to know his style, though. Is he like a numbers guy?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Is he the act? I couldn't imagine him being like... Is he like who he is in his acting? The rogue that's chatting. It is very interesting to me. It shouldn't be so interesting. It's his own business, I am like, hmm.
Starting point is 00:14:42 And the fact that he hasn't, he really seems to not talk about it the way that some of the others do is interesting to me because it makes me wonder maybe he goes hard into D&D. That wouldn't really fit his brand very much. If he's there, like, I'm the quartermaster, and even though it's not important to the DM, I'm keeping track of all the equipment and how much loot we have to sell, because that's really actually what I'm getting at the end.
Starting point is 00:15:09 And, like, I think he just knows... Fitts Vaughn is the quartermaster of the group. I did. And they're like, a note taker. He's like, well, the Litch's prophecy specifically said. And he's like, Owens have to be locked up. I got to work.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Like, sorry. Oh, my God. Like, the DM slides him a puzzle. And he's like, guys, stop. I got this. And he's like, oh. I totally agree. I'm so, I'm so curious what he would do.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Because, like, obviously he's a very talkative guy, like, in his characters, you know? But, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, My brain really only saw him as like, he must be like a number cruncher. Like he doesn't do the role playing. He's just like, yeah, my character goes here and here's what I roll. But I would love to think he goes the other way. I don't know. My assumption is because the thing is like the reason that I feel like I probably wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And this is based on the persona that he portrays as Vince Vaughn like the public figure, right? It's one of like nonchalance and, you know, like, I don't give a shit about anything and kind of, you know, like that kind of like nothing gets to me. Water off a duck's back. So the role that I kind of put him in that I don't love playing with is the one who's just there to, like, crack jokes and just there to like, look cool just to be like trouble for the party and like make a bunch of sex jokes and like, you know what I mean? Totally agree. But that might not be him. I might betray everyone. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Or, you know, the GM's trying to make a sense of atmosphere and they're lighting candles. He's like, you know, close it out. What is this a seance? But he might be a lovely person to play with. You're saying something about me, Harlan? Is he saying someone about me? Just kidding. Listen, if Paul Rudd was a D&D player, I would have him at my table.
Starting point is 00:16:48 He seems so, like, happy to be there. He'd be like, I love this. I'm great at this. Oh, Amy Poehler or Tina Faye. Yes. Tina Faye would be a type A player, for sure. She'd be an inventory manager. Well, you know who I would really love to play D&D with?
Starting point is 00:17:03 Who? The four of you. Aw. Yeah. We're not celebrities, Nick. Not yet. Not everything has to be about celebrities. All right, cool.
Starting point is 00:17:14 We're all celebrities in my mind anyways. Having infiltrated Iron Slag and stolen the key to the Von and Dodd, our intrepid heroes, Reds rovers, make their way from Iron Slag to Dead Snows. The first day of travel was fucking miserable. A sleet storm blanketed the forests around Iron Slag. with a layer of slushy snow, which covered the fresh shoots of new green grasses and buds. The next morning, you awaken to melt water, making rivulets through the mud around the outside of the tiny hut, the warm sun breaking up the slush and returning green to the springland.
Starting point is 00:17:56 It's the 22 of Tarsak, the claw of storms. As you break down camp, you consider the road ahead of you. You likely have one more night camping rough and will hit dead snows tomorrow morning. Doran trudging through the muck suddenly pipes and says, Listen, I'm not going to say that it was all my brilliant idea to have the Von and Dodd stuck in this sort of swampy stuff
Starting point is 00:18:26 and he like stomping his feet in the muck. But, I mean, I think I was the one to actually say it out loud to you, you know, the bunch of us. Look, look, we all remember. It was my idea, clearly. Well, I remember very distinctly standing up in my metal suit and twirling my javelin and saying, I think as a dwarf that we should, wait.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Sorry, Jared. I'm muddling up my memories again. How long until we're there? Everybody you know. Durn sort of looks off in that distance. Witted seems to be calculating something, but you can tell that both he doesn't seem to have his heart in the math, and he's distraught about that.
Starting point is 00:19:06 He's just staring at his screen. And it seems like even the mechanical body is tired trudging through the muck. I wish I had extra enough battery to power my boots, but this is ridiculous. I don't know. I don't know. And he just shuts the helmet. Oh. I didn't realize you had a battery raymond there.
Starting point is 00:19:33 That's how. I was like a... No. No, he said a battery, like with wings. Hattlers. Wings. Wim is trudging even farther behind Witted. She's, like, entirely preoccupied with this mud.
Starting point is 00:19:48 She's got her feet in Bessie's footprints, and she's trying to, like, match the stride of this giant armor. But something about the cadence of the stride is, like, really tricky for her. And with her bare feet in the muck, she keeps getting stuck. And she's, like, she's, like, probably a hundred. hundred meters behind you by this point. Did you say we had like a day to walk? You have another day
Starting point is 00:20:11 you'll probably have to sleep rough tonight and then tomorrow morning is dead snows. Well I think that we're within at least a day's journey. We'll probably have to camp before we can actually enter the town but I think that would give us more time to plan which seems advisable
Starting point is 00:20:27 considering that we will probably be persona non grata when we arrive. Yeah, great great potatoes. I don't know exactly what we want to do. I've been thinking about it, and frankly, I'm all muddled up, more muddy than these feet right here, red points to his extremely muddy feet, just as, with dead snows, frankly, with Duke Salto a little bit.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I don't know, guys, this is all feeling pretty big potatoes, if you know what I mean. I hear you there, big raw potatoes, hard to eat, hard to digest. Yeah. Unflavorful. Of course you could get some butter in there. God, I'm hungry. Wouldn't it be great to bake a potato? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Bake a potato or even put them in some frying. Some oil. Oh, man. With some salt. Oh, you're talking about something about potatoes? The voice through Bessie's Grill just remember. Like, it's clear, when it's hungry, too. Timmil is kind of thinking to herself,
Starting point is 00:21:31 no, now is not the right time to ask them to focus up. let's uh we have a little more breathing room um and then out loud she'll she'll say well if you would prefer to um take it a bit slower we can but uh we knew this was going to be a hard thing we didn't know that we would be doing this exactly but we knew this was going to be a a challenge a fight no you're right yeah no redness and fold all i mean to say is it seems like things have exponentially gotten a little bit more complicated you know i kind of hoped we would leave Dead Snow's with Zolto dead and only have to worry about the Vonindod. But now we have the Vonendod and the people of Moonhaven, whatever it's fucking called,
Starting point is 00:22:14 and the people of the giant fortress still being led by Duke Salto and maybe his kid. Yeah. Yeah, on your back, Doran, Ork Splitter is kind of whispering in your ear. She's like, you hardly killed anything. Yeah, I know. Stop it. Quiet. It's not my proudest moment.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I'll say that. He's whispering. Quiet. You asked me, we're talking, it's just normal. No. Oh, you're... No, yeah. I'm, forgive me, I don't know much about giants or their cultures.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Are fire giants the most aggressive, the most warlike of the kinds of giants? Definitely. Cloud giants tend to be sort of like artistic and colorful. They love music and dancing and all that kind of stuff. Storm giants, well, they're pretty vicious in their own right, but they're not geared around war. like leaders, you know? Frost giants, they're like kind of explorers. They love sailing the oceans and conquering lands, you know, they have a fighting force as well, but fire giants, they're the ones that are like war forged, you know? I mean, you saw the underbellies, you know? Just mountains
Starting point is 00:23:20 and mountains of swords, geez. I'm just thinking that it is more complicated, as you say, but as a moment to rally people together, if we are able to bring forward some of your allies, Proving to ourselves and having everyone prove to themselves that this is a fight that we can win, I think this is an invaluable opportunity for morale, and, um, what's the word I'm thinking of you, like, uh... Oh, fuck! Victory? Coalition building. Oh, yes. I love it. I couldn't agree more. You're right, you're right. Yeah. I think it's easy to get overwhelmed, but we're just got to eat this elephant one bite at a time, which starts with dead snows and Doran and I having a list of people that we can send Ravens to once we get there.
Starting point is 00:24:07 So while Doran and I think about that tonight maybe, how do we want to approach Dead Snows? We did, just so you know, dead snows, beautiful little town, we're not allowed to return to it. Yeah, we were banned. We were banned from Dead Snows. We were banned from the Croist office. We were banned from the fighting room. All of it. We were banned.
Starting point is 00:24:31 That damn dwarf. So that more, a portmanteau of crow and post office? Yeah, you like that? Very good. I like that very much. It's very good. I caught that. Canon.
Starting point is 00:24:42 That was awesome. Heck, yeah. Christop. Say canon? Damn, I'm using that. Crow stuff. I feel like this is where you see Witted just stop for a minute and slump slightly. And out of the grill, you hear a, er, and then the visor, and then the visor,
Starting point is 00:25:04 opens enough that you think he could tell this would have sounded too mean even through the voice channeler. Is there a reason that we have to start this journey for unity at a place that you've been banned from just about everywhere within? Oh, well, no. I don't want to be around people even when they want me around sometimes. I don't know why you want to be around these people. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, trust me. We were banned for all the right reasons. I mean, we went in there, and we really just sort of like, oh, good.
Starting point is 00:25:41 You know, they were, everybody was so in awe of our, of our abilities and, you know, our, our personalities, and they just didn't want us around. I think, I think we could bring them back around. We were drunk fighting. I'm kind of winking at Red, I think we can convince them back around. Oh, they hate us. Oh, right, yeah. I mean, we could convince them for sure. Is this, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Wade Aid, Red walks over and puts his hand on Bessie, which is surprisingly hot to the touch. Ow! Oh, sorry, I'm warbing it. You're okay in there? Seems like you've been steaming, literally, over the past few mile. I apologize. I just, frankly, and he just... You see, he sort of stoops, but what you hear as he sort of lowers down,
Starting point is 00:26:29 And he's like level, eye level with you with the helmet fully up. If I had it my way, we would be going straight to the voted dot. But you all seem set on the finding allies. That's not something I do typically. But truth be told, I have to admit that if you three were by my side, that if you four were it by my side, then I wouldn't have made it, probably in or out of that place, certainly not with what you got.
Starting point is 00:27:09 So I appreciate your help, and I think allies must be a more worthwhile endeavor that I have calculated for in the past. I just don't understand why with people who don't seem to want to be your allies. Well, we're not going to recruit the people who found us just tasteful in dead snows, primarily it is to use the crost office. It's just the closest place. Although, something I have been thinking about was, um, I don't remember the name of the
Starting point is 00:27:43 arena. What's it called? What's it called? Al-Hamor. Al-Hamor. Al-Hamor. Something that I have been thinking about is all kinds of people go to Al-Hamor. people seeking adventure, seeking to make a name for themselves, even seeking just to have their first fight, but people who are fight-minded, there could be some allies there. It might be worth, I don't know, having a double distraction of pretending like we are back
Starting point is 00:28:19 and being caught and then having Carilla throw us into the pit so that we can show what we can really do, I mean, all Corrilla can offer is just an arena, but we can offer glory. Hmm. Red snaps his head away from Witted and towards Temeel. Hold on. You want to go in there to fight? Look, if we can get in there and send the crows, shouldn't we just try to do that? I mean, we can give him spectacle, but... We could. We could. We could just try to sneak in, though I am not entirely sure that we'll be able to do that. completely undercover. I think it's pretty likely that we'll be seen. Carilla has eyes everywhere, and if she throws someone out, she makes sure that everyone knows it. But I'm willing
Starting point is 00:29:09 to try. I just thought, um, I don't know, this is how I could possibly help. You know, there's another philosophy to consider here, and that is the age old saying, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. After all, once we get there and we have, explain if we have the opportunity, which I think you have a good idea there, Timile. If we manage to, you know, not get thrown out within the first few moments of stepping into Dead Snows, if we can just capture their attention for even a moment, we might be able to convince enough people that, look, this is, this could be a plague upon the land that does more than just, you know, ruin a fighting ring or one town. I mean, if the giants really succeed
Starting point is 00:30:03 with their Vonundad, this is pretty, it could be the end of Faroon as we know it. All right, all right. Look, I hear you. I hear you both. My instinct would be to use this as a last resort, you know, if we get caught or something like that. But even if that is the case, look I mean if we are as good as we are and you know we are we should you know make sure we make it worth our while not just a chance to beat these people and say our peace but you know maybe get carilla to commit to some forces or something like that you know I hear where you're coming from and I think it's I think it is smart I like that but I agree with you as well we go in as stealthily as we can manage and then if we get caught this can be a plan B One thing that we should be sure of, though,
Starting point is 00:30:53 Corrilla can know about the forces headed for Silver Moon. She can know about the battle. She should not know about the Von and Dodd. Agreed. She is an opportunist. She is all kinds of shady. If we can keep that part to ourselves, I think that would be wise. I agree.
Starting point is 00:31:09 And Doran kind of tilting his eyes towards Witted. Plus, we have to get our friend here the first opportunity to look at that thing, right? I certainly want my eyes on it as sued as possible. It's better to have somebody we know and trust to have their, you know, digits in that monstrosity of a machine. Yeah. The less others who know about it, I would tend to agree, is for the best. Agreed. Well, let's keep going. It's getting dark.
Starting point is 00:31:42 And as everyone sort of starts moving, Red just hangs back with Witted for a second. And he just sort of turns to him and says, look where did I get it I hear where you're coming from with allies and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:31:54 I know we haven't had long conversation yet but you know before all this I was strictly
Starting point is 00:32:02 solo I you know I was a gun for hire I truth be told I killed people I was an assassin
Starting point is 00:32:11 in water deep and I heard a lot of people and I don't feel great about it but one of the things I found
Starting point is 00:32:19 and believe me I wasn't looking for it but in needing others in using others in finding others to make you feel more complete you end up finding something
Starting point is 00:32:33 you never know you had purpose and now I have a purpose and I read sort of looks to Dorn and Wim and Timil as they're sort of walking up ahead and back to Witted and I've got to
Starting point is 00:32:47 I've never felt happier having one. You may just find a purpose yourself if you open your heart to it. As Witted looks up and takes in the same scene and then looks back at Red, you see him just kind of smile and he sits back. And he's just like very much like sitting in front of a fire. Like there's something cozy about this moment. And he looks at the machinery of his arm for a second where you notice he's looking at a gap between, like, the, where the clockwork is a little more visible.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And he goes, interlocking parts, everything's connected. I, I can be really stupid sometimes. And he just nods. This modest people often, ah, Dorn's walking up ahead with Temeel, turns and says, Did you just hear Red Sea porpoise? Is he talking about dolphins back there? Probably. Tammil reaches around him and taps Wim on the shoulder.
Starting point is 00:33:45 She does the thing where she, like, looks the wrong shoulder and then looks behind. And then, like, looks over Doran's head at Temeel. Gets a little wink. Wim's been gathering all these, like, long willowy branches as she was kind of dawdling around. And she's, like, weaving them into something. She's, like, making something. She's not very good. It is not really readily apparent what she's making.
Starting point is 00:34:09 And she's, like, considering it for a minute as she's crafting. and she looks back to Tamil and she signs, you spent a bunch of time in dead snows. Do you know anyone there that could help us? I know the captain of the guard. He owes me a favor. He would never arrest us.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I know the guy with the potion of immortality. Tamil will sign back to whim and she'll be speaking out loud too. Well, I know some of the proprietors of the inns. You know, I've had dealings with the blacksmith. I had a few friends. Roger, if you remember, from the stocks.
Starting point is 00:34:52 He can be handy in a pinch. Some of the lesser scene of dead snows. Whim nods. And then, Temeel will sign, what are you making? Whim tucks a couple more branches, like, into the shape and turns it to you. It's like a really raggedy-looking twig doll. It's got, like, little pieces. sticking out at odd angles where the arms should be.
Starting point is 00:35:17 She's, like, working hard at it, something that she's been fashioning to, I guess, to play with. She's still kind of a kid, you know. Are we going to get a long rest? Have we had a long rest? We've had one long rest, yes. Tamil will kind of reach out and she'll touch Wim's hands where she's holding out the doll. And she kind of taps her fingers basically on Wim's wrist.
Starting point is 00:35:44 wrists and I'll give her cat's grace to give her extra dexterity for the weaving. Nice. Just for flavor. So cool. For no real reason, just for flavor. Yeah. I love it. She flexes her fingers, like noticing the difference and
Starting point is 00:35:59 makes to like bend a sprig behind another one and it works perfectly. It doesn't snap the way that it had been. And she looks up at your great big thumbs up. And then expertly hops between Witted's prints. Because it's like, now she can do it so much better. While she's weaving.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Is that the cat's eye thing? Cat's grace, yeah. If you want to get real mechanical about it. Yeah, yeah. It's a spell. Because we're playing dungiones and dragons. Dragionis. Dungiones.
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