Dig It with Jo Whiley and Zoe Ball - DIG IN: Cosmetic Infidelity & Ghostly Encounters

Episode Date: August 31, 2026

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Coming up, on Diggett. Who tells they're rather half about having Botox? I just know that the next day or that night I'll come in and he'll just be literally like staring at my face, just like pouring over my face going, what, what, what, what, oh yeah. Most of the men I know are always like, oh, don't wreck your face, don't do this, don't do that to it. Yeah. Because obviously, sometimes you can't hide it when you've had a bit too much or become Jack Nicholson. He went into such vivid descriptions of strangers in the house and how he'd have conversations. with them and he could see them all the time, but nobody else could see them. And I was sitting there

in the home hall, just look at him and going, what the hell? All of that right after this. Monday morning and time for digging. Morning, Joe, how are you this fine Monday morning? I'm really good, thank you, getting the back-to-school vibes, but actually quite embracing. Not the summer's ended, but the autumn might be in the offing. I get quite excited at this time of year, to be honest with you. I quite like the seasonal change. I mean, I don't know whether that will happen with the weather this year, who knows, maybe we'll have another heatwave. But I quite like buying new stationary, a possibility. You know, like the kids get new schools and they get new daps in a dat bag. Daps. I love that word. Yeah, I don't know why I'm using that word. Plimpsoles from

the 70s, 70s reference. Some people will get to be like, what is she talking about? But I quite like that seasonal change and, you know, filling your pencil case with new stationery. Yeah, no, same, same. Just getting prepared. new hair cut, new kind of thinking of in the wardrobe, maybe kind of how you can eke out out the dresses. I'm wearing this kind of prairie dress. It's beautiful. Thank you. I thought long and hard about buying it and I splashed out. Coco's got one that's really similar. And when I were on holiday, she just rocks the look so well. She looked amazing. Really cool, really chic, lots of jewelry, kind of very rock and roll. And I wore it and I just looked like someone from Little House

on the Prairie. But that's a great reference. Yeah, thank you very much. You absolutely you look stalling in it. But also I'm thinking I can probably wear this into the autumn into the winter with a bit of knitwear and maybe leather jackets and boots and then you can just still wear slip dresses. That's the plan. I like it until it gets breezy in the undercarriage and then I'm like back in the trousers. We have had loads of diggers get in touch and our first question comes from Laura. She says, my friend started having Botox in her face a little while ago. She looks great and is definitely more confident, but I'm convinced she hasn't told her husband and he has no idea about it. I think because he's not as image conscious or maybe would worry

about the cost, each to their own, but I can't imagine not telling my partner about something like that. I know it's a personal thing, but do you think it's right to keep something like Botox a secret from your other half? Love to hear your thoughts from Laura. Who tells their rather half about having Botox. I mean, I have to say, Laura, I'm a bit like your mate because I think most of the men I know are always like, oh, don't wreck your face. Don't do this. Don't do that to it. And it wouldn't be that understanding about it, to be honest. It's not that I don't hide it from them, because obviously sometimes you can't hide it when you've had a bit too much or suddenly you can't You can't be smile anymore.

Or you get the, yeah, or you become Jack Nicholson, where you're like, oh my gosh, I've got the wrinkles at the side. Or you're slightly more surprised on one eye on one eye. But I don't think, do men need to know all the stuff? Does your partner need to know everything when it comes to stuff like that? I think we've talked about this before, I think. I have profiler, which I really like, which is just like very, very hydrating and then a tiny bit of baby Botox in. just around, just between the eyebrows and then around the eyes.

That's literally it. And I didn't tell anybody for ages because I was, a bit of me was intrigued to see whether the family would notice. And also I knew like, you know, they had quite strong views about it. Like, oh, don't mess. Yeah. They just didn't want me to do it anyway. And then when I said, oh, you know, of course I've been doing it.

They were kind of relieved, I think, that I didn't look really outlandish and ridiculous. And they were, they were like, oh, fine, just carry on doing it. But I didn't want to, I didn't want to tell them in the beginning, just out of my own curiosity to see whether they would actually notice anything different. And when they didn't, I was like, okay, so I'm getting away with it. This is fine. Exactly. Because you don't want to look shocked, surprised or completely. And it is a fine line with face stuff. I really admire and respect people who don't do anything and look fabulous. But sometimes a little bit of something has made

a difference to me and made me feel a little bit better. But, you know, I don't know whether, yeah, I don't know what the logic would think about it all, to be honest with you. But I do end up, I always have that thing of, I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. Okay. It's like when people have a cold sore and they go, I'm not going to mention that. I'm not going to show. No one will notice.

I've got a cold sore. I've got a massive cold sore on my face. You know, so sometimes I overshare. So sometimes I'll think, I'm not going to tell anyone anything. And then I'll be like, all right. Okay. I've had some work done. But I think that's all right, Laura.

I do. I know on occasion, I've told Steve that I'm, you know, I've got an appointment or I'm going to see Lisa. And I just know that the next day or that night, I'll come in. And he'll just be literally like staring at my face. Just like pouring over my face going, what, what, what, oh, yeah. I'm like, literally you can see nothing. Nothing has happened.

Nothing has happened. It takes a while to kick in. Yeah. I don't want somebody to be just staring, scrutinizing my face for any sign of anything being any different at all. It's just, oh, let's just get on with our life. Just don't look at me. I just let me get on with it. it's fine. So I think, yeah, whatever. Let us know, diggers. Do you share? Do you feel you need to share?

Have you had that thing with a friend when you know they've had something done but they won't admit? Because that's the other thing. Sometimes I quite like it when women share what they've had done that works and looks good with other women or other men, you know, because I've got male friends who have stuff done too. And sometimes when people, there was an actress and I won't name her for fear that she sues us. But there was an actress who said she hadn't had anything done and she'd just used red light masks. Everyone's like, come on.

That's absolute bollocks. So sometimes I think it's okay to not, you don't have to share everything with everyone. But if you've had something done, especially with my friends, if someone's had something done that works, that they can recommend, I think that's quite nice to share.

I do, yeah, yeah. Oh my God, let's all help each other, shall we? Yeah, shall we? Any tips and tricks, it's fine. Just share and share a like. I didn't take my red light mask when I went away because it was just too many things and I just thought, I'm not going to be shoving my red light mask on early in the morning. I'm going to lie in and I'm going to go and get a nice coffee in the morning. So I'm, and I haven't had time to do it this morning. I might just, can I just leave it on for 24 hours? Would that be about? But I think this is the whole, this is the like the coming in, autumn coming. It's suddenly

you go, all right, let's get, let's get it all together again now. I'll start using the red light mask. I'll start using the exfoliating and I'll start using the nice body cream. So it's kind of let's, let's take care and let's, yeah, make yourselves. I've got a shoot tomorrow. So I've got a booked an emergency facial down the road at grand aesthetics in Hove. Thanks, girls, coming down to see them, get the, you know, just get all the dried stuff off the face and hopefully give a bit of a lift before a shoot tomorrow. Panic. Oh, good luck. Good luck. You'll be fine. Music, don't forget, really loud music when you have your photograph taken. But I know what you mean. Like the sun damages. It's awful when you're out in the sun and then you come back from holiday.

And you think you're glowing and gorgeous and bronzed when you look in the mirror when you're on holiday. And then you come back and you're like, what the hell? I should never look to the sun. Yeah, I look like a wrinkled old prune. I need a facial. That's where I'm at. So, Joe, when you were off and we had Sarah Pascoe on the show, we caused a bit of a stir. When we talked about gentle parenting, even Joe Frost, who lots of you know,

super nanny, got in touch. And Joe had this to say. I think it was a marketing shit show and backfired. Some Nellie took my methodology and decided, let's keep Joe's emotional intelligence regarding connection with our children, but we will leave out the bit where she talks about parents upholding boundaries and implementing consequences. Like I said, a shit show. Children need leadership.

They need us to teach them what emotional regulation looks like too, with healthy parental exchange. Just watch my shows. I gave people the happy middle blueprint decades ago and those principles still stand today. Oh my God, I used to be obsessed with supernanny. Supernanny and Wife Swap. I watched hours and hours and hours of both of those shows. I love your love for Trashy Telly, Joe. I'm always surprised. I'm like, she's so highbrow. She's, you know, has got a fantastic music taste and she loves Wife Swap. I only ever watch. TV that hour after getting in front doing my radio show before I fall asleep. So it's

got to be. And you need to switch off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fake or fortune at the moment. That's the thing. Do you ever get it right? Something else will come along. Sarah, I watched this. Also talked about the dread of taking home, the class Teddy, which you have to take photographs. You know the whole thing. You have the school, Teddy. Take photographs and it's doing like these amazingly wild,

radical things, very, having a very, very exciting weekend. And Sarah said it's just more work for mums. And she joked about how she just took a photo of it on the floor at home to take the pressure off the next parent. Haley has been in touch and she said, oh, M.G, I remember that bloody bear. It had been horse riding. It had been hiking. It had probably been skiing. I was a skint, tired, single parent. So for me, it went to the chippy and B&Q. Time of its life, that bear. Oh, I love it. Battered sausage for the bear. Spam. Laura said that class Teddy used to visit the washer machine and the tumble dryer when it came to

our house as they always came home really dirty and mucky. So we used to take pictures of it in the washing machine going around. That's hilarious. I remember so distinctly in disco does as well. We came to your house when you were with Norman and we had lunch with you and Cass had got the school bear that weekend. And you know Cassie's now like music producer, mixer. And so we've got these photographs of his school bear on Norm's mixing desk and at the decks. It was amazing. It was so we were guilty of doing a bit of a like, look what the bear was doing. I don't think we said it was norms. It was just like literally at a mixing desk.

That's hilarious. It was obviously hugely influential. The kids were so little. They were tiny, yeah. They were tiny. But Mary's also been in touch and she said, as a teacher, admittedly I did this years ago. After Teddy was pictured with a famous tennis player of the US Open during half term, I decided for the sake of all the other families to make Teddy simply disappear.

And that was it. He vanished. Competitive parenting. But I'm really glad that everyone managed to get it off their chests on either side of the argument regarding those two subjects. We do love it. I said Steve last night, any idea where those photographs might be of Cass with the Bear? Oh, God. Because it was the days before phones, mobile phones.

Yeah. It was before phones, wasn't it? What did we do on like disposable cameras and then took it to the shop to get them developed? Yeah. took the photographs in. Such a lot of work. Next up, we've got a question, and this is from Katie, who said, my nearly three-year-old freaked me the hell out the other day. One afternoon, completely out of the blue, so this is a three-year-old child, by the way. He started pointing towards one end of the lounge. I asked what he was looking at, and he said, clear as day, a ghost. I asked a bit

more about where it was, and he said it walked past the window and was a man. He kept saying he didn't want to go back in that room because it was spooky. I've never had any scary moments in our house before, but it is well over 100 years old. My boy's favourite song is Ghostbusters. So it might be his imagination in overdrive. Is this normal three-year-old behaviour? And have you ever had any spooky encounters? That is from Katie.

This reminds me of Jude, who is, you know, he's a writer. He's got an amazing imagination. But I remember distinctly taking him to a homeopath. And he'd got, he'd got like, growth on his fingers. and we went to see the homie path to see if they could do anything about it because he was very self-conscious. And she started to ask him all these questions about, you know, what he saw at night, what he dreamt of. And he started talking about all these people that he saw in the house when nobody else was around. And he just, he went into such vivid descriptions of strangers in the house and how

he'd have conversations with them. And he could see them all the time, but nobody else could see them. And I was sitting there in the homeopaths, just look at him going, what the hell? And it really freaked me out. So Katie had exactly the same thing with Jude when we went to the homieopath. So I know exactly what you're talking about. Has he talked about it years later? Does he remember this? No, I'll ask him.

When I see him later on today, I'll ask him. But I mean, he has got a very, very vivid imagination is all I'll say. But he never talked about it before. And he was talking about it with such conviction at the time that I was, I was so freached by it. I really was. I went back to house and I just kept looking over my shoulder every time I went into a room. Like, is this the room?

Are you the people are you here now? Katie, I reckon you should write into Danny Robbins on Uncanny. I have friends who are obsessed with that show. I met Danny Robbins recently at the podcast show up at Crossed Wires. And it was like meeting a rock star. And I had to have my photo taken with him to show my lovely friend, Del, and some of the getting at Heather. They're all obsessed with Uncanny.

And that's what they talk about on it is all these kind of stories. And there are often kids who see. spooky characters or ghosts or, you know, beings that adults don't necessarily see. So Katie, your kid could well have seen. Have you done any sort of, you know, looking into the history of the house, I wonder. I have never seen a ghost, but I did stay in a place in Venice that was definitely, there was energy moving around that place. It was sort of like, I want to say 14th century, but someone will say, Venice probably wasn't even built. then. So I probably got the dates wrong. I'm really bad with dates. But it was very, very old

building in Venice. A lot of Venice is very old. And it was freaky. And it kept us awake all night, both of us up, but like, you sort of feeling stuff. It was like energy moving around the room. First night, with lights on, got a bit scared. Second night kind of got used to it. But there was definitely something there. Didn't see anything, but there was something moving in that room. And it did freak me out initially, but then I kind of got used to it. And I talked to people all the time who live in houses that have, they think spirits or whatever. And then some people think it's absolute, you know, nonsense. But once you feel it, you can't and feel it, can you? I've definitely asked to change rooms before in hotels. It's a place in Glastonbury when we went

to do Glastonbury. And there was a really lovely old hotel, but there's one particular room. And I got in there and I was like, I can't spend a night in here. And I don't really believe in these things. But I was just scared in the room. It felt. It felt bad. It felt really bad. And when I looked it up, there was a history of the supernatural in this hotel in this particular room. So, yeah, never seen anything, but definitely felt bad vibes. Yeah. I think your dude is so like my Woody. Because Woody has a really overactive imagination. And he's, I think he's quite in tune with folks who have gone. And, you know, he's always talking to his grandparents who have gone now in dreams and things. like that they can't in loads. And yeah, I'm often quite jealous. I'm like, oh, you get to see them all the time. Finally, Tracy has been on.

She's got in touch with the rant hotline. If you need to get something off your chest, this is the place to do it. What's got Tracy's goat? Is that the phrase? Joe Zoe, I have a massive gripe with ice cream vans. How dare they charge three. quid for a simple 99 flake.

Three quid. And then these knicker block of glories in a tiny little cup. Oh, he's got a little bit of syrup. And they think they can charge four pounds 75 each. They're so big these days. Kids can't even finish them. It's a waste of money every time I go. What a con.

Surely the idea of a 99 was that it cost 99P. Wasn't it? You know, is inflation that bad? I think they used to be like 50p. I think they were nowhere near the pound mark. They were like especially a single flake. Double flake if you want to splash out would be like 75p. I know.

Three pounds. That's our honesty scamblers. We were in Cornwall and we were in the little spa shop. And I was with Cocoa and Joe, her boyfriend. And we were looking at the chocolates. We were just as we were hearing looking at them and we realized that you couldn't buy a single chocolate bar for under a pound. You had to spend over a pound for a bar of chocolate.

And we were like, when did this happen? How have we got to this? That the most basic of things are now two pounds, three pounds. It's outrageous, isn't it? When no one's got that much money. It is absolutely outrageous. It's, oh. It was those lovely kids, Tracy, you're not alone.

Do you remember those lovely kids who did that whole thing? It's a rip off. It was a really good meme. I think it was a couple of years where they were basically given a load of lip to the ice cream man and rightfully so. It's like, yeah. I mean, I know they're only trying to make a living. And I guess that's, is that the cost of, you know, I guess there's got to be a markup on everything to make things worthwhile.

But come on, you're selling to kids. I was at a festival over the summer. And again, me, Coco and Joe got ice creams and we got 99s. And it was the stingiest amount of ice cream I've ever seen in a 99. I like a big fat dollop of vanilla ice cream and then a flake in there. Yeah. And it was literally like a tiny little, you know, doggy dropping or something. And I was like, oh, that's so disappointing.

and he was really holding back putting any of the ice cream in. I'm like, you've got loads of ice cream in your ice cream machine there. It's got to melt all over your hand. It's got to go down the cone. You've got to suck it out the bottom. I mean, you've got to make a mess. Come on, ice cream men and ice cream ladies. So we're with you, Tracy. Yeah, we are with you. I'm glad you've got it off your chest. Maybe we should start our own business with the ice cream. Well, ice cream, I'd love that. Ice cream van. People will all be in touch saying, do you know how tough it is? make a living these days.

But anyway, if you have something you too would like to rant about, do get in touch with the rant hotline. If you've got any of your fantastic ideas or stories or things you'd like to share with us, perhaps prompted by other diggers getting in touch or things we've discussed, do get in touch with us. You can find out how on the show notes. And if you want to leave us a message on the rant hotline, the number is 0747-0-3-8-795. I think I'm getting a handle on it now.

it's 0747-7-0-3-8-7-95 we want your rants we want your questions dilemmas, debates anything you're to throw our way and if you are shy then don't be because we're all in this together just be brave like we said put your steel pants on as Zoe's mum always said put your still pants on and call us and leaves your message excellent right I'm off out probably to be mistaken for you Joe Wiley which I quite love actually when I'm about have your facial And then you won't be. Once you've had your facial, you'll be Fern Cotton, probably. I wish I could be Fern Cotton. My final boast for today is that I've had goose on the floor by my side throughout the entire podcast. And he has not interfered, moved a muscle. He's been extraordinarily well controlled. He's growing up fast. They grow up fast these days, don't they? I'll send a pick. I'll send a pick. Please do. Lots of love. Lots of love. Bye. Bye.

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