Dig It with Jo Whiley and Zoe Ball - DIG IN: Should I Stop Sleeping With My Husband?

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

How many remote controls, odd keys, and random bits live in your kitchen drawer? Jo and Zoe reveal the secrets of their “sh*t drawers,” debate separate bedrooms and snoring, and take questions from the Potting Shed on everything from favourite films to furniture restoration. GET LONGER EPISODES  Become a member of The Potting Shed for more questions answered, longer episodes and bonus content. 👉 https://digit.supportingcast.fm/ SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS This episode is brought to you by Airbnb and Eight Sleep. 🌍 Airbnb —  Your home might be worth more than you think — find out how much at airbnb.co.uk/host. 🛏 Eight Sleep — Meet the Pod 5: the smart mattress cover that cools or warms each side of the bed throughout the night, tracks your sleep, and even helps reduce snoring. Upgrade your sleep game and get up to £350 off the Pod 5 Ultra with code DIGIT at 8sleep.com/digit. CREDITS Exec Producer: Jonathan O’Sullivan Assistant Producer: Eve Jones Technical Producers: Will Gibson and Oliver Geraghty Video Editors: Danny Pape and Connor Berry Dig It is a Persephonica production 

Coming up on Diggett. Beginning of the end? Separate bedrooms? Literally at four in the morning. I walk down the landing and I'll suddenly hear this kind of like, is it the end of the world? Yes, it probably is. How many people does it take to carry in a shit drawer?

This is a big shit drawer. There's a remote control. What, these random remotes? Random remotes. How many random remotes do people have in their homes? I mean, why do we keep them all? Hello. Hi, hi, Zoe.

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Visit Harrisonhealthcare.ca.ca.com slash Toronto. Morning love. Happy week, happy Monday. Happy Monday to everybody. You know when we started doing this and we were like, it'll be really easy. We've watched other people doing these podcasts. Oh my God, you just click on the camera and then that's fine. What you don't think about is what happens the night before or the morning.

I walked in to do this today and I was like, I've just turned the camera on. I turned to my left and there were three sleeping girls on a set E. There was a dog absolutely sparker. There were packets of digestive, there were bottles. There were all kinds of tapery. And I was like, oh, excuse me. me but I've got an appointment with my friend and have to speak to her. Do you mind which it's kind of vacating the room? Oh my gosh. Is there that lovely smell of teenagers? Yeah, I'll

be honest with you. The windows are open now. Yeah. Teenage girls sometimes smell better than teenage boys. Teenage boys, you know, it's a certain smell. But teenage girls, there's often quite a sweet smell as well because they use lovely perfumes and cream. Yeah, they do. Right. Okay. The good news is Joe, the results are in from last week's Spotify poll. Would you try Harry Styles pleasing products. Would you like some results, Joe? Yeah, go on tell us. I mean, I am genuinely really intrigued about this. It's like Brexit all over again. Fifty-seven percent said tempted if it comes back in stock because they've obviously sold out and 43 percent say not for me. Thank you very much. They've either, well, they've either got some at home, I guess, or they're

sorted or they're not interested in that. Thank you very much. I wonder if it was a different celebrity whether it would be a different result if it was say I don't know Brad Pitt George Clooney one of those guys maybe yes it's another poll for another time yeah a poll for another time like the George Clooney effects with the coffee machine yeah probably pretty huge is it as big as the Gary Barlow wine I don't know so yeah maybe we'll which is delicious see if anyone else brings out a sex toy a sex toy watch some more you know everyone's brought out wine yeah Everybody's brought out health, you know, books, self-improvement books.

People, it used to be the DVD, didn't it? The exercise DVD. That was a big celebrity thing. Yeah, didn't Jerry from the Spice Girls do one? Yeah, many people. Jerry from the Spice Girls did one. I remember, didn't Natalie Cassidy do one? Yeah, Palmer.

I had a Wayne Sleep one. You know, I had them all. Of course you did. Of course you did, Wayne Sleep. Wayne Sleep. Ballet exercise. If John Travolta did one, obviously I'd be up for that. You'd be well in there.

Right. So, I believe we have loads of questions from our diggers. Thank you to everybody who sends in your questions and we will do our very best to answer them. The first question, we've got a voice note from Geraldine. Hello, darling girls. You referenced the other day to child minding and having the luxury of having family near or friends near in the day. I had a friend and she had four children and I had three children all similar ages

and we used to give each other a day I used to have all the seven children for one day and she would have all the seven children for another day it just brought back a super beautiful memory to me the other day whenever you were talking about it another thing I need to know is does everybody in the world have a shit drawer in their kitchen

it's nearly always the second drawer down It's full of necessary for your life implements. But it's just a big mess. You just open the door and throw everything and there's no order whatsoever. But you always know where something is if it's in the second drawer. Is that just me?

No, it's not just you. Geraldine needs her own podcast. I think she is an absolute gem of a woman. Do you know what? We used to holiday with friends with kids and we do that where it'd be like, right, you two go and have a nice day off or romantic day or da-da-da-da-da-da, we'll have all the kids.

And you know what, you're right? I remember hanging out with friends when we were young and our parents were all friends. And they are the best days, aren't they? All the gang together. That's a lot of kids. That's what I missed. You know, that's what I'm more than happy.

I mentioned earlier on about having all the teenage girls. They are my happiest times when all the mates come back here. But when the kids are tiny and they're running around and it's exhausting. But, God, that's precious. That is golden. Those days are absolutely golden. And you're right, the more kids, the merrier, they just occupy each other. And nuggets and chips.

That was the fuel of my kids for like a decade. Nuggets and chips, the easiest thing in the world to do and the most delicious with the tomato ketchup on the side. They loved it. They love it. So shit drawers, yes, Geraldine. Yeah, Disco Steve has just gone. Sorry, can I just go and get my shit draw?

Disco Steve was here and I was going to get him to pass it to me, but I've now got to get up from the chair. So bear with me one second. I'm loving the fact that Disco Steve is fast becoming the glamorous as soon. distance. It's like his arm coming. I could just shout and get a child to come. Hang on a minute. Cass? Jude. Anyone? They've all run away. Anyone? I love that you have as much authority in your home as I do in mine. Hang on. One might be coming. Constantly ignored. Oh, I've got, they're all here. How many people does it take to carry in a shit drawer? This is a big shit drawer. Oh, I'm sorry, Jude was in

bed. Pass me the shit drawer. Come on then. Let's show Geraldine and the figures, the contents of your shit drawer. Okay, so there's neurofen. Lots of neurofen, yes. There is Gaviscon double action. Rennie in my house, great. Frontline plus for the animals. For the animals.

Get rid of those, please and worms. Multiple packs of cards. There is a remote control. There's... These random remotes? Random remotes. How many random remotes do people have in their homes? And then why do we keep them all?

I have no idea. A gardenia nozzle to go on the end of my hose. I'm not sure why I put that in there. I love that's called a gardenia. Lots of elastic bands. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Staples.

Yeah. What else we got? You know where it all is? I have no idea. Chewing up. Oh, and a loud hailer. Hello. Hi.

Hi, Joe. Welcome to Digit, the podcast. I love it. Why is that? It's the crazy roundbook. Tape measures. Tape measures. Yeah.

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It's amazing. Oh, Lord. Also, do you have loads of keys? I have so many keys that don't fit anything. Keys. That I keep and keep and they've come from house off to house. I'm like, what are all these keys? Anyway, that's my draw.

If anybody else wants to send us pictures of their shit drawers, we'd love to examine. to examine them closely. Yes. Do share. Geraldine, that was an excellent question. Okay, we've had an email from Emma who says, I love my husband. I'm glad to hear it, Emma, but I haven't had a decent night sleep in ages. He snores and gets up to pee in the middle of the night every single night. I'm exhausted and seriously thinking about moving into the guest bedroom just to get some rest.

But part of me worries if we stop sharing a bed is that at the beginning of the end, Emma. Emma, I feel for you. In our household, it's probably the other way around. I'm the one who gets up to pee a lot and I'm the one who snores. I've had complaints from the kids in separate rooms who can hear me snoring. Beginning of the end, separate bedrooms?

No, no, I mean, Disco Steve and I are still together, right? And we will be forever and ever. But do we sleep together? No. It started, I think, because I really like snuggling with Coco. So we just, you know, I've always slept in a massive bed with all the children for as long as I can possibly keep them there. So even India now, he's 33, will sometimes come and get into bed. But

the chances of me and Steve actually getting on in a bed together on like zero, he's deaf. He is so deaf. And all he likes listening to is either hardcore news, so news podcasts or self-help podcasts. And so literally at four in the morning, if I get up to pee and I'll walk down the landing and I'll suddenly hear this kind of like, is it the end of the world? Yes, it probably is. How does anybody sleep listening to that kind of stuff? Whereas I'm there watching because I also, I always have to have the TV on when I go to sleep. He hates it, obviously. So he just wants podcasts. I like the TV on. I like to watch Gardner's World or I like to watch Countryfile or Love Island, something like that and I'll just drift off to sleep. But I do not want

a podcast blaring at me just going, it is the end of the world. We can confirm. So, yeah, separate bedrooms all the way. I have been known to occasionally get up and go and sleep. somewhere else if you know if it's nailed or you know to let someone have a restful night if I'm restless or to get a restful night if someone else is restless you know colds and flus and bugs and things like that and I guess there is that thing that you get the nice little bit of sneaking back in in the morning but yet this is the problem the sleep habits thing is is tough isn't it if I can't sleep I put my little headphones in and I listen I'm probably a bit like Steve I listen to newscast and

there's something about Adam Fleming talking about the end of the world that sends me off to sleep. You weirdo. The other night I couldn't sleep and I listened to four Desert Island discs and it was Gareth Southgate, Cher and this fantastic composer, but they were so interesting and like Cher picked some absolute bangers. So I didn't go to sleep at all. It was a complete disaster. So for Emma, what do we suggest then? Separate bedrooms? I think separate bedrooms is absolutely fine.

still be romantic you can find time for romance and love that's all right that happens you can make that happen but when he comes to getting a good night's sleep i when we sleep together he tosses and turns so much in bed and i've got that i i sleep so lightly and i that real um flight or fight kind of thing goes in light so as soon as he turns over the adrenaline's there and i'm sat up in bed going what's is there an earthquake what's going on and then i can't get back to sleep but however if i'm lying in my bed and i've got five pillows all around me and i've got cocoa next to me and I've got gardeners well, Monty Don on the screen. I can sleep quite well. Do you know what? Also another good tip for sleeping. I don't tend to have the telly on because I

can't miss the end of anything. So we'd have to watch it. I have to watch it. I have to watch it to watch it to end. But the masters golf. Yes. I can fall asleep to golf. That's I find that quite sort of soothing but other telly definitely not. I think I am the disco Steve of this household. You're very similar. Yeah. Which is probably why we get on. That's why we get on. But I'm not sleeping with you. I'm never going to share a bed with you. Let's put it out there.

No, and Nell, my daughter's always like, I wake up you a day. Because I love going to sleep and say bed as Nell. You know, when she's here, I'm like, do you want to stay the night? Is it a girl's night? Want to stay the night? And it's really sad when she just looks at me and it's like, no, mother and shuts the door. Or looks at me, says, no, mother, go to bed now. It's so wound.

But sometimes. And my favorite thing, if you do get to share the bed with your kids, sometimes is just, I know, it sounds creepy but just looking at their faces as they sleep and it doesn't matter how old they are just you look at them and i always have those moments of just remembering their faces when they were babies and you're like look at you all grown up i know i did this the other day with cocoa she was asleep in bed and i mean i do a really creepy thing i take photographs of them when they were asleep when they were tiny and she was asleep and she was in bed like this and she had her arms up you know how babies do oh happy baby happy baby pose and she was doing that but she's like

16 years old but she still had that lovely calm beautiful peaceful look on her face and i was like oh i'm just going to capture that one i took a quick photograph oh it is i know and if can you imagine if they woke up if they knew the amount of photos we've taken of them sleeping they'd be like delete that delete that i don't want you having that why i think treasure those moments so emma let us know how you get on we think it's probably all right to have separate bedrooms sometimes make sure you don't always though no because i think sometimes you just need to curl in but it works for people they I remember, you know, reading about people who were married who had different floors of a house. Oh, now there's an idea.

Yeah. Separate houses? Is it too bad to have a separate house? You're getting into very different territory. But Emma, let us know how you get on it and anyone else who's got some advice. Because maybe there's a way that they can stay in the same bed, but we can sort out Emma's husband snoring. So any tips for snoring, do let us know. We're going to take a quick break for some ads.

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It's Jane here from Bramley in Surrey, and I have two lovely children who spend half their time with me and half the time with her dad. So over the summer, I thought I'd catch up on some movies, I was wondering what your all-time favorite of a film is, whether you have any good recommendations. I like a good chick flick. I like a murder mystery and a psychological thriller. Let me know what your movies are.

I'm a sucker for the Nora F-ROM. So you've got Mail when Harry Met Sally, that sort of thing. I love those. All right. Loving the podcast. Keep it going. Speak soon. Thanks, Jane.

Oh, it is tough when you share your kids. You do miss them. I mean, there are benefits sometimes because you get a bit of time to yourself, but you do often miss them. But then you get to watch the movies that you want when you don't have to come to an agreement that you get to watch something everybody wants to watch.

Oh God, yeah, that's a nightmare. If I'm on my own, I'll always check what's on at that point. The other day, an affair to remember was on, and it was that rare moment where it was just starting. Carrie Grant, Deborah, Carr, oh, love it. So I love the old classics. So some like It Hot, I think is one of my favorite films that are all time. Tony Curtis, Marilyn Monroe and Jack Lemon.

Hilarious, best final line of a film ever. And I also love High Society. But then I quite like a funny rom-com. So I love things like What's Up Doc with Barbara Streisand and Ryan O'Neill. hilarious film. The Jerk. I love Arthur, Tutsi, all those kind of romantic comedies. I love all of those.

And then I love, have you ever seen Network? Network is a brilliant film, another favourite. It's about a guy who, he reads the news, and then he goes slowly mad. He has a breakdown on air, and they keep him on the air because the ratings go through the roof. It's so good. And then obviously things like Goodfellers and all of those classics. I'll have forgotten something now. I've got a list. I can't choose one though.

I couldn't choose one. I had to write it down because I never actually remember things. And I put Rear Window because if Jane likes suspense and Rear Window is an amazing film. It's so good. And I'm like you. I love the Carrie Grants and the James Stewart films. All of those. But then I love a musical too.

And I think you probably do as well. So whether it's singing in the rain or Leenirs or Cabaret. Paint Your Wagon, which we talked about last week, the soundtrack to that. So all of those kind of films. What else of it? Knives out. If you're talking kind of suspense and something that's a bit quirky, then I really, really enjoyed Knives Out if you haven't seen Knives Out. And then anything, I just like stuff that makes me laugh.

I don't like stuff that makes me cry at all because I can cry quite easily on my own. I don't need anybody else to start that off. So anything with Paul Rudd, Will Ferrell, Steve Carell or Ben Stiller, any of those films, something about Mary. I just love that film so much. It's really touching. And about a boy, I really, I quite like a Hugh Grant film. I find, I don't think there's anything that he's been in that I haven't enjoyed. And about a boy, I find so tender and so beautiful and that lovely moments, I won't give anything away, but there is a really lovely moments towards the end of the film that just makes me sob every single time it happens. And it's got a very, very, very young Nicholas Holt in it. It's just unbelievable. The transformation in him.

And badly drawn boy did the soundtrack, didn't he as well, which I love. Yeah. That's a seriously good list. And another, because it's just celebrated, I think it's 50th anniversary, Jaws. I still love that film. I think it is the perfect film. It destroyed the sea for me. I can't go snorkeling. It's the minute my ears go underwater, I start going, do, do, do, do, do. But it's such a great film, the drama in it. And then the stories behind making it. There was a great piece, actually. I quite love looking into how they made films. Didn't you study film? I went to a little film school in Brighton. It's great. But I'm the annoying person. that when you're watching a film is looking up, oh, right, okay, this was made here. This was so-and-so, that's, you know, oh, I love it. That's my happy place.

Garden or watching a movie. Any other suggestions, send them in, guys. Do we have any more questions? Oh, yeah, what else have we got? What have we got next? Hi, Joe and Zoe, Pam here from Tumbridge Wales and Kent. I'm loving the podcast. It's like a massive hug in a mug.

I would really love to know, because I feel like I'm at that age now where I feel like I'm really grown up now and I really love doing interiors in the house and I wanted to know how do you go about finding some really nice art for your home do you go in skips,

charity shops, car boot sales, do you go online? I'd really love to know what you do in terms of like art for your home. Pam, good question. Joe, what have you got? I haven't actually got any new artwork

for quite a long time. because I feel like I'm a bit stuck about where to go. I would, I go to interior shops that I really love, like little boutiques in various local towns, and there are certain people there, and it's the same with clothes, just like these amazing women, and then who curate everything that's in there, so they have really good mugs and cups and crockery, some clothes,

and then really nice artwork as well, and posters. So I probably go to those, and then also looking online, there's some really great, if you go to it on Instagram, there are so many people there with artwork that I love, that I love and something catches my eye and I'll order something. But it's always trying to get something that's not everywhere. I mean, there were the days when we had when we were kids and it was all about the Wombles poster or the girl that was playing tennis that was scratching her bottom.

Tennis, showing a bum. Yeah. Do you remember? Everybody had the same thing on the way. Man with tyres. Man with baby. Athena had all of those. Yeah.

Everyone had those. And I think you're in danger now of there are certain pictures that just keep cropping up everywhere. And I'm like, oh, that's the equivalent of the Athena poster. So I'm always looking, trying to find different kinds of things. Illustrations, I really like illustrations. But there's amazing artists out there. And I probably, Instagram is my go-to place to try and find new things. Just kind of do a deep dive.

And if you see something and then just follow all those people that they follow. And then ultimately it's like a paper trailer that will lead you to something really, really great. Yeah, absolutely. I love, because I love movies, I collect a lot of sort of movie art. And so I've got some really lovely French posters. and stuff. And you can buy originals and they cost an absolute mint, but a lot of people do prints of them. So again, some that you can find on the internet. My brother, Nick, is a really brilliant photographer. So our house, we've got a lot of his pictures are up and I love his stuff. I've now

got that thing where I've moved and moved and moved again and had a bigger place, filled loads of walls and now haven't got anywhere for half of the pictures to go. So Jane, if you're looking for stuff, I'll I've got loads because I'm like, what shall I do with this? I'm keeping all this art. Where is it all going to go? I was thinking of having a little yard sale out the front of the house because I'm thinking, you know what it's like when you don't want stuff anymore? What do you do with it?

I know. And also presence, people. You've got amazing things in your house, Joe, because you've got lots of things you've collected and you've got lots of artwork that looks like it's been made for, you know, members of the family and stuff like that. I'd say, you know, also digging out the children. drawings that they've done, illustrations they've done when they're kids. You can't beat something like that on your wall,

but arranging it creatively on the walls. So we've got some of that. But ultimately, if we're talking about art, then I just like to really, really look for stuff that appeals to me. But I know what you mean. We've got, you know, above the garage, so many pictures. I don't know what to do with them. I just, I literally don't know what to do with them

because I don't need them anymore. I want somebody to have them and use them. And so, yeah, I give stuff to charity. but yeah, stuff accumulates and you have real sentimental attachment to them as well because they will have been a significant thing in your life at some point so you can't actually bear to give some of the stuff away

but also it's just sat there above the garage. Yeah, if anyone has any suggestions of good little websites or good Instagram accounts to follow. Oh, I'd love that. There's a really lovely guy who I found how I became slightly obsessed with for a while and he makes art from stuff he collects on the beach,

old junk. So he's done like a whole picture of like a sunset, but it's made out of plastic that he found on a beach. And then there was one, there was just loads of legs. So they found not human legs, obviously, but they're like Lego legs or an action man leg. And he's just collected all this junk and making it into arts. Really cool. Anyway, his name's Steve McPherson.

And I'll put him on my socials. Yes. Okay. Loads of ideas there for you. And do share with us if you've got any suggestions on snoring and sleeping in separate bedrooms do show us your shit drawers what random crap you've got in your shit drawer but you always know where it is don't you yes you do and if you've got any film or art tips do share with us and that's all we've got time for today remember if you have any questions or comments we would

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