Dig It with Jo Whiley and Zoe Ball - Jo's First Crush, Dolly and a September Reset

Episode Date: September 2, 2026

Jo and Zoe rewind to Reading Festival days, celebrate the brilliance of Dolly Parton and Tim Curry, and wonder when they suddenly became the mums at the festival gates.Plus sweet peas, September intentions, new telly, old tunes and those tiny moments when grief catches you completely off guard.GET IN TOUCH📧 Email us: [e-mail]📱 Text or Voice Note: 07477 038795💬 Or tap here to send a voice note or message on WhatsApp:⁠ ⁠⁠https://wa.me/447477038795⁠SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS 💄L'Oréal Paris True Match Hyaluron Tinted Balm - Ready for a new era of foundation? Discover your perfect shade of the New L'Oréal Paris True Match Hyaluron Tinted Balm⁠ online⁠ or at your nearest Boots or Superdrug counter.📱 Starling: the bank that helps you organise your money, build great habits and stay in control of your spending. Do life together with a joint account - find out more at ⁠starlingbank.com/current-account/joint-bank-account⁠. T&Cs and eligibility apply for Joint, Personal and Easy Saver accounts. Individual Personal accounts are required.🐼 Panda London — Make hot nights more comfortable with Panda London’s beautifully soft, breathable and thermoregulating bamboo bedding. Head to ⁠pandalondon.com⁠ and spend over £50 to receive a free Bamboo Eye Mask with your order using code DIGIT.🌿 Ancient + Brave — Support your skin, joints, bones and overall wellbeing with Ancient + Brave's responsibly sourced collagen. Head to ancientandbrave.earth/planet and use code DIGIT for 20% off your order.CREDITSExec Producer: Jonathan O’SullivanProducer: Harriet Thurley Assistant Producer: Eve JonesTechnical Producer: Oliver GeraghtyVideo Editors: Cameron Laird and Jack Whiteside  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on Digit. He was my first crush. I cannot tell you how much I loved Tim Curry as Frankenferter in Rocky Horror. Really? Oh my God. And I watched it with Coco and there are just so many iconic moments in that film. The outpouring of love for such an amazing lady. Oh my God.

Who was just such a trailblazer, wasn't she? Absolutely. I mean, she just showed young musicians, young people that they could make it if they had a little bit of talent and they were prepared to work incredibly hard. I was talking to somebody about something and I said, Mum and Dad's, oh, no, it's not. It's mum's now. It's those little moments. So you'll know exactly the same thing. You're just like, oh, no, they're not here. All of that right after this. Hi, diggers, welcome to another week. Zoe Ball. Hello. Hello, you're making me laugh.

It's, it's so weird. It's the end of the summer and I'm feeling slightly deranged because we've got to ramp ourselves up into, da-da-da, back-to-school feelings. I don't think I'm ready. I know. I'm not ready for it yet. I suddenly had a thought about Christmas this morning, and I was like, what? I pushed it away, really. I gave it a big shove and I was like, no, go away. I think someone was asking about Christmas leave. And I was like, no, surely it's not time for that. Yeah, I can't think about that. Oh, I just had a little mini panic when you said that. I was like, oh, gosh, help. Help. panic. Both our kids went to Redding Festival and I did. I don't know about you with Nell going. I know Nell had like really, really packed summer and she did loads of festivals. But for me,

Coco going off to Redding was quite a big deal because she normally, we go on FAMI to festivals. And this her going off on her own and I had to drop her off. And it was the weirdest thing in the world because I felt like I was 20 or something and I had all these flashbacks as I drove down the road to drop her off at Reading Festival of myself many, many decades ago going, I think my first one was 1989. I looked at the line up the other day and it was sugar cubes and New Order were playing there. And I was just having all these feelings of like, how can I be dropping off my daughter when And I was only here a little while ago myself. And it was so nostalgic and really, really weird.

But then I was looking at all the kids, it was like this tidal wave of 17-year-olds. I swear there was nobody who was 18. There was no one who was 16. There were 17-year-olds heading to Reading Festival. And I thought, thank God I'm not going, because I'm way too old. If you're over 17 and you're at Reading, then, you know, you shouldn't have been there, unless you're crew. Yeah, crew.

You could definitely see. There were a few people there. There were the security guards. and I was giving them special looks. I was like, yeah, I see you. Reading memories. Mine are pretty vague. I don't think I ever camped there.

I think I left at the end of the day. Because it was kind of, it was, I wasn't too far away. So you could go in for the day and then come out. And I remember seeing hole and the lemon heads. And I think I saw Sound Garden. Yeah. So many incredible bands where those lineups where you were like, you really didn't know where to go next because there were so many

amazing people playing. But it wasn't, I didn't go as a right of passage at the end of exams or, you know, I was a lot older. I was in my 20s the first time I went to Reading. But I do remember the atmosphere being absolutely electric. Yeah. And it was quite an amazing era. Honestly, I was laughing so much because like it was like it was a uniform. Like all the girls had cowboy boots on. There was barely a person there who didn't have cowboy boots on and then shorts and then a cammy top and all the guys they just had long shorts and quite a lot of bare chests. Wow. Chests are out. Come on. Sounds out. Yeah. Yeah. It just felt like there was the Redding and Leeds festival uniform. It was quite, quite comical. But it was nothing like that. It was so much more

muso, I think, when I used to go. Yeah. It was people were, I mean, all those kids are obviously love all the bands who were playing there. So they're absolutely, they're musos as well. But it just, it felt different. It is that end of exam. Let's go and have a ton of of fun over the course of a weekend with our amazing bands. The lineup was so good. So good. Charlie XEX and Fontaines and and um geese and geese. Chase and status Florence. Really great, really great. Woody was very much like, Nelly, you've got to go and see geese. Um, and I was very, but I, because at one point I thought, oh, should I just sneak in? Should I just go and sneak in and go and see Fontaine's and geese? And then I, I just looked at all the people going in there and thought,

no, I am not welcome here. This is not a place for mum. I never felt more mum in my life, watching all the young ones. That was exactly my thoughts. Yeah. I was like, no, no, turn the car around, drive, keep your dignity. You had that time and now they're having their time. And now they're having their time, yeah. I actually said to Coco, should I just walk down to the entrance with you? And I know, I part my car, I can just walk down to the entrance, get you in there. And she was like, no. Absolutely not. Fine. But then she put a tent upon her own. I was very proud. of her. Go, girl. Fantastic. I know, because the weather was not the kindest in the sort of lead-up. No. It had all been very soggy. But you worry about them and then you realize once they're in, they're with their friends, they're with their fellows, they're with a good gang and they are just having the time of their lives exactly at the point in their life when they should be.

Yeah. What is amazing about the festivals is the care for the kids, like the people who put on these festivals, I was thinking about when I went to Glastonbury when I was 17. And I had. no phone. I got on a bus in Northampton and I went to Glastonbury and then I called my mum from a pay phone on Sunday morning I think and said, can you pick me up from the bus station? But now there is, you know, you've got your phones, you've got all these alerts. They're all telling everybody to take care of each other, to look out for each other. There's a welfare tense like you said when it came to boardmasters. There is so much protection and care for all the kids who are going to the festivals, which is wonderful. It's really good. I know. It is absolutely brilliant. And is that it now? is festival season sort of slightly coming to a close?

Well, no, because there's Radio 2 in the park. Oh, there's Radio 2 in the park, of course. Who have you got playing Shaka Khan? Yeah, Shaka Khan's going to be there, which will be great. Texas, Deacon Blue, James Blunt. It's going to be fun. It's a couple of weeks and there'll be so much fun going on in Sterling.

So I'm looking forward to that. And that'll be my last festival for the season. And you'll be with all the gang as well. It's always good fun, isn't it? When everyone gets together. I love that. If you're enjoying Digit, don't forget to hit follow or subscribe so you never miss an episode.

What a week it has been since we last spoke. Well, I mean, obviously we did dig in, but the loss of Dolly and Tim Curry was, blimey, what a hefty blow that was. It really was. I'd been worried about Dolly for a while because there'd been that thing where her sister had said, you know, pray for her. And so it was obvious that she hadn't been doing that well, but they'd been, she'd made a couple of appearances, but I know she'd cancelled gigs and stuff.

And then as I guess as the week went on, we learned that, you know, she'd been looking after her husband, Carl, they were married for so long. She always, whenever she spoke about him and their relationship, you could just see that love in their eyes. They'd been together for so very, very long. And she'd only recently lost him and obviously been looking after him and dealing with her grief. And then it turns out that she had been, you know, she had had cancer. Yeah. But the outpouring of love for such an amazing lady who was just such a trailblazer, wasn't she? You know, she was a young woman who came from a really tough upbringing family that worked so, so hard.

And she obviously showed talent from such a young age. And she went out into the big wide world. And boy, did she make an incredible name for herself. Absolutely. I mean, she just showed young musicians, young people that they could make it if they had a little bit of talent. and they were prepared to work incredibly hard. But also for women to know that they could inspire them to write songs, to find their voice, to pick up a guitar, to be their own boss as well, to know that the business is actually a very,

very important side of what you do. She was a trailblazer. She was such a trailblazer. The fact that she wouldn't let Elvis have, I will always love you because she would lose out. She wouldn't get the money. And then she held on to it. And then it was in the bodyguard and Whitney sang it. And a lot of people didn't even, I didn't know that Dolly wrote it for a long, long time.

But then she made all the money. And now everybody knows it's her song. She wrote that song, one of the best songs of all time. It's just so inspiring, so utterly inspiring. It was really a proper emotional time. I was on air. The news was going on. Yeah, I was listening to you.

And it suddenly broke in the middle of the news. And we, oh my God, we were all looking around going, what the hell? What the hell? And we managed to get, I will always love you. We began the show with that. And then it became really apparent that all people wanted was to talk about Dolly and to hear Dolly music. And so that's what we did.

But it was really emotional. You did it so beautifully, though. Can I say? Oh, thank you. It really reminded me of when Sean Keebony and Matt Everett were on the morning after David Bowie died. Yeah. And also were they on air when Prince died? But you just, it's a collective feeling of everybody wants to celebrate and mourn together

and share memories or share the music. And I thought you did it beautifully, Joe. It was a really amazing show. Thank you. Power of radio, I think. Yeah, power of radio. And the other incredible thing about Dolly, and I think that's what so many people have talked about,

you know, when Paul McCartney put up a quote on Kevin Costner, you know, people are talking about how brilliant she was, how funny she was. She was so witty and she took the Mickey out of herself and she was so openly honest about her physique and I might have made a couple of changes and stuff like that. But also she was a great philanthropist. You know, lots of people said she could have been,

a billionaire, but she gave so much of her money back to communities. And she had this incredible reading project where she thought it was so important that, you know, children from all families should have access to books and to learn to read and how much that opens up their imagination. So she had this incredible charity that gave books to all sorts of children. And I know there's kids in the UK that have benefited from that charity. I've heard lots of people talking about it on on the radio. What was she like when you met her? Oh, because you met her as well, didn't you? And I feel so blessed to have spent time with Dolly. I interviewed her a couple of times. And the last time I interviewed her was only a couple of years ago. And we got to go to this hotel, this whole

team of us. And you just felt the magic and the gold from spending time with her. And she was just so generous with everybody. He was like, come on, gang, get in. Let's have a photograph. And she wanted to talk. She loved talking about the things, the experiences she'd had. She loved sharing about, you know, being a woman and fighting for your rights and, oh, just such an inspiration. Everything she said I wanted to write down as she was so quotable, Dolly, because she had such great philosophy, didn't she, about life and how to do life? I know there's a couple of things that she was, some quotes that you loved from Dolly. Oh, there was the one about being brave.

I actually sent it. Cocos was quite nervous. going to Reading. And after she'd put the tenter by central equate, and I was like, it was Dolly, it was, you'll never do a whole lot unless you're brave enough to try. And I said, well, that's it. You were brave. You went into that festival on your own, which is what she did, and you put your tent up on your own. And you are being Dolly. And I think everyone in the aftermath was being more Dolly, which is not a bad way to be. Yeah. And where did you get to interview her? Where were you talking to her? Oh, Glass and Bree. Yeah, it was Glastonbury. Yeah, it was Glastonbury.

Of course. Oh, my God. Yeah. Now, she just played, I mean, you know, everybody that was at Glaston, we seemed to go to see Dolly. I was there. Were you? Yeah. It was wonderful. She played the saxophone, I think, and she had so much fun. And then she came off stage and I grabbed her for just a couple of minutes.

But she was really generous and really kind. And when I said, can have a photograph and her people were trying to take her away. And she was like, no, no, no, no. Okay. And let's work out the angle. Where should we do it? And she just gave me time. And I thought that was a very, very kind characteristic, just said a lot about her.

So yeah, we're both very lucky to have met Dolly. That was a particularly good Glastonbury. And so about two hours before Dolly was coming on, I was really thinking about going home. Because I was quite worth for wear. And I was dragged into a tent by a friend of mine and she gave me my first ever Yeager bomb and went, drink that, get yourself together. We're going to go and see Dolly. And I remember sort of standing and the ground was so uneven by that point. And I was like, I just need to hold on to things because I'd gone quite hard.

I think it'd have been the Rolling Stones on Saturday. I can't remember what it was. And I am so grateful to my friend that she made me go and watched Dolly Parton because I will never forget that singing all those songs were a fieldful of loved up people. And Dolly was so, she was so tiny on that huge stage. But God, her presence was enormous. And yeah, Dolly, we love you. I read the quote. She was saying when she was asked to do Glastonbury that she thought, I don't think it's my place. I think it's full of rock people. And they'll probably be drinking and they've taken drugs. they just won't want to hear me talking about my coat of many colours and the Tennessee mountains. But she said, I said yes, and it's one of the best things I did in my life, which is an amazing thing to say for Glastonbury. And there, she probably had to be brave to do that, and she smashed it. So there you go. Walk out there, yeah. I might watch Steel Magnolias this weekend and have a good old cry. It's one of my favourites. I love that film. Then,

following day, in the afternoon, we got the news that Tim Curry had died. So I'd sat and watched for the night after he died sat and watched Rocky Horror Show. He was my first crush. I cannot tell me how much I loved Tim Curry as Frankenfeiting, Rocky Horror. Oh my God. And I watched it with Coco and I knew every word and I knew every song. And there are just so many iconic moments in that film. It's just wonderful.

And he was so funny. You know, he had major health issues. He had a stroke. But he still continued to do interviews and to be hilarious in the interviews. Did you see the one about Miss Piggy? I did. I did. I thought about Miss Piggy.

There's this amazing interview. He's being interviewed by Lou Adler, I think. And he says, you know, was there anybody who got away? And he just went, yeah, Piggy, Miss Piggy. Because, you know, once you've had pork, you don't go back. He's just so silly. He was so sexy as Frank and Furttta. So sexy.

Oh, he was. And I always loved the way he talked about Franken Furtt. And there's, I think I saw that Richard, was it Richard O'Brien's son? Was talking about a chance meeting between Richard O'Brien? and Tim and Richard was like, I've written this musical and Tim was like, tell me about it. I'll come play Frank and Verde, you know, and what an incredible adventure they had together. And of course, people loved him as Pennywise in It, in which he's so fabulously terrifying. And, you know, if anyone did never fear of clowns before.

And of course, Home Alone, too, where he pulls that face where he's exactly like the Grinch. And I also personally really love the film Clue, where it's. all the different detectives together and they're all trapped in a house and it's so stupid. But he's he's so brilliant in that as well. Oh, bless Tim Curry. I'm really scared because these things sometimes come in threes. Lots of people have been quoting 2016 to me and saying it's like 2016 all over again. So I'm hoping.

And I know there's been lots of quite sort of amusing memes of people saying, have we got eyes on certain celebrities? Because, you know, we are worried about their well-being right now. So everybody take care. We gather ourselves together. We hope that nobody else leaves us and we launch ourselves into September. So what's your intention as we go into September?

You've got a new job, obviously. I've got a new job. So I'm very much new pencil case, new shoes back to school kind of feeling. So I kind of, I don't know if I'm ready. Am I ready, Joe? I'm not sure. So that's going to be. And also, I've got to have a word with myself.

I haven't been doing my training. I've been eating and drinking like anything in front of me. So I'm kind of like a feeling, right, get back to the gym. JT. I'm coming for you. Have a little sort of the garden going into the winter of, you know, just making a few changes out there. I'd really like to do that because there's a few things that I'm like, right, they need to be cut back. That needs to be moved. So yeah, I've got quite a few things on my list, Joe. I just want things to be calm. I'd love to know what the diggers. If you're one of our crew, if you listen or watch the podcast, share with us what you're intentions are because they might be massive. You might have decided to embark on some kind of big project. Maybe it's moving house or doing the Great Wall of China or whatever it is. Or maybe it's just a tiny little thing that's just going to keep you focused from here right up until Christmas. So if you've got your own intention, then let us know. You know, just head to the show notes and that's how you let us know. I just, I feel like there's been so much going on that I just want everything

to be calm and that'll do me. That will do me. Yeah, you've been through a lot, darling. You know, you really have and I think it's just I imagine there is it doesn't it doesn't stop does it life doesn't stop. I'm sending you lots of love and strength and I quite like autumn for the change of wardrobe I mean I don't know how long is it going to stay hot for are we going to have more heat is it going to stay longer but when you get that change I start rifling in the boxes and pulling out the knitwear woo-hoo knitwear and boots I can't wait to get it get boots on and wear big socks and light a fire and make a stew. But anyway, we may, this heat may carry on and carry on.

Speaking of gardens, by the way, and that lovely autumnal change, we have a video from Tim Metcalfe Kemp, who is the head gardener at Eastern Walled Gardens in Lincolnshire. Love a Walled Garden, where they are sweet pea specialists. He showed us how to harvest your sweet pea seeds for replanting. So I'm Tim Metcalfe Kemp and I'm the head gardener here at Eastern Wall Gardens. So today we're going to start harvesting our sweet peas, which is earlier than usual. So, but we can start to see that some of these now, we've got amongst the green seed pods, which aren't ripe. We have these nice straw brown pods, which we can almost here rattle.

They're ready for picking. So we're going to start harvesting today. So we haven't got any ripe seed on that, but that just shows you. the green, the difference on ripe seed and a ripe seed. The distinctive changing colour going from green and they do that incredibly quickly. We need to be taking them off the plant. It's sure we're putting the right variety in the right bag and we take these bags and we put them in mouse-proof storage to dry out. We empty these out into these cardboard boxes as you can see actually in the box on warm days seed pods actually explode open it's their seed dispersal

system so you can see how that seed pod is actually twisted if it was on the plant that naturally on a warm day actually twists at such speed and velocity that it projects the seed further away from the host plant so that's their seed dispersal system so that can quite easily happen we keep them nice and safe in the box so if they do explode open we still manage to keep the seed. people at home, a box isn't necessarily required. You just need a brown paper bag, which again is very breathable. You can take your pods, put them into the brown paper bag, and then just to remove any moisture that may be in there and start to promote rot in the seed, you can put them in a warm greenhouse or a conservatory somewhere that's dry. Just let them dry out for a week or two.

then you can shell the peas, the seed from the pod. And then you want to really keep those in the fridge if that's what you're going to sew later that year or the next year. We're putting our sweet peas in the freezer just to keep the seed viable for longer. Because we sell our seed, obviously it's a very valuable product and we want to keep them very viable. Increase our stock of seed before they go out onto the shelves ready for selling. I need to go there, Joe.

Oh, I love a sweet pea. Yeah. We should go. That looks beautiful, doesn't it? It really does. They're so gorgeous, aren't they? I had lots this year and I had them all around the patio. So every time I went out there, the smell was just amazing.

It was really beautiful. And I thought that I felt quite proud of myself that I'd actually thought to put them near the patio because normally I, but actually I did put some in the borders and I was like, why did I do that? They're too far away. I can't see them and I can't smell them. Thanks to Tim, that was very useful. And you can visit Eastern and buy their sweet peas all year round. Plus all September they have artists visit for painting, botanical painting workshops. Blimey.

That sounds lovely, doesn't it? Great digging time. Joe, have you been watching Furious on Disney Plus? It's been so good. It finished on Monday. No spoilers from me. It's been such a brilliant drama about an FBI agent on the hunt for a female serial killer. But it's kind of about women.

who have a lot of anger and a lot of reason to be angry and the result of things that have happened to them in their lives and how that affects them and then what they go on to do with their lives. It's been brilliant. It's also apparently I read this morning going to get another series. So I'm not saying any more about it, but watch it. It's so good.

Emmy Rossum is so good in it. She's amazing. And it's brilliant. I've loved it. So if you're looking for something to watch, you'll binge it. Okay. Thank you. I was quite excited that Ludwig's back. I really, really love that first series and now it's back. So I spent half an hour with David Mitchell. Not actually on my sofa, but I just invested. And Anna Maxwell Martin, both of them, amazing. So good. I wanted to mention a book, which I know probably every single digger will know this book already. I'm quite late to it. But yesteryear, have you read this? No, I haven't read it.

Apparently the book of the summer yet. I got it because Indy was reading it when we were on holiday. And I love the cover. It looks very, very cool. It's by Caro Claire Burke. If you haven't read it already, that is my recommendation. I find it really hard to read books. And I have loved that.

I've been looking forward to every time I've got a spare moment that I can pick it up and read it. And it's all about a trad wife, the whole trad wife phenomenon, who is an Instagrammer influencer. And then something happens. and she is actually living the life of being a proper trad wife. I haven't even finished the book yet, but I've really enjoyed it. So that's my literary recommendation. And if I just, can I mention music? Gang of Views are back.

It's just a single, but it's really lovely. And if people haven't ever discovered Gang of Views, just go and listen to them on streaming services. And I think we really like them. And then Tiny Habits, I've got an album called Keepers. And they're great. They're really easy to listen to. And it's a quality album.

So Tiny Habits are my band. And what about you? Have you been had time to do anything? Because I know you're working flat out. I have been just listening to lots of music from the 70s, 80s and 90s. To be honest with you. I also did. We went to see Wilco, which I talked about for us.

I've been listening to lots of Wilco. And I've been listening to Anthony Schmerich's new album, which is fabulous because we both adore him. In fact, I saw that when I was driving out of Reading, I saw somewhere that there's a festival with the Ibio sound machine, Anthony Shimerick, Joshua Aydhaen, and someone else I love. And I was like, when is that? I might go to that. I think it's just like a really little festival because I thought they're all acts I'd really love to see.

But who knows? Because it's all quite hectic, isn't it, this time of year? It really, really is. Yeah. Oh, my God, yeah. And you're so full on. Sometimes life just takes over and you have to work. And that's the soul for focus of what you're doing.

And that's exactly what's happening for you at the moment. That's what most people have to do, don't they? They have to go to work. It is, yeah. slumming around having a lovely time of it and I've got to go back to work and it's been a bit of a shock to the system shows. I'm going to centre parks over the weekend. I've just remembered what I'm doing. I just wanted to take my mum and my sister. Francis has just been like, when am I going on holiday? When am I going on holiday for a really long time? And she, neither of them have had a proper holiday just

because of everything that's been going on with dad. So I promise Francis. I mean, I would like to, have I promised Francis? She told me that I was taking at the centre park. So that's what we're doing. Go, girl. She's very persistent when she wants to do something. And I am so looking forward to it. It's going to be me and my mom and Francis. And then Emma, who's like this angel who takes care of us all. And then Coco is going to come with me.

And I think kids are going to drop in. So we're going to be doing the rapids. We're going to be doing the lazy river. Francis loves going in the lazy river. And they're very good with people with limited mobility at Centre Park. So it's just really nice to just take her gently down the lazy river. And we can have a really nice time. So that's my weekend lined up.

I'd like to come with you. I have had so many lovely adventures with family and friends at Centre Parks. It really is so much fun. I've spent a lot of time in the rapids where often people are like Zoe, we've got, it's closing now. I'm like, one more time. Late at night, the rapids, when there's not many people around, you cannot beat it. I know. And then cycling back home.

Yes, yeah. People are on bikes. I'm beside myself with excitement about going to Centrebarks. So, yeah. I always end up singing the E.T. theme as I'm cycling around Centreparts. And the idea and the hope that my bike will take off something about being in the trees, just reminds me of E.T. Have the most amazing weekend. What a lovely thing to do with your mum and Francis. Thank you. Yeah. It's going to be good. It's going to be nice. Do you know what? With losing dad, everything's fine and it's been, I've coped with it really well and it's all been all right and people have been lovely. The only times that I've cried is when I've done things like I phoned to book Centre Parks and I just went to say something about my mum and dad and I was like, oh, no, no, he's not here anymore. And I went to make another booking and I said, oh, I was talking to somebody about something. And I said, mum and dad's, oh, no, it's not. It's mum's now. And anybody who's going through

grief and I know there's lots of you because so many people have been in touch, it's those little moments. And so you'll know exactly the same thing. You're just like, oh, no, no, they're not here. Say that. When you have to acknowledge it, it's quite strange. And that the only time is I've actually started to cry. And I'm just like, no, just give me a second. I'll be back with you. Yeah. Oh, okay. I'm back in the room now. talk properly. I know. But I just thought I'd mention that because I bet other people have had that situation as well. And you're still going to text them sometimes or call them or say, I must tell yeah, mom, bat. I must tell, you know, on that. But yeah, it's, it's, it does take some getting used

to. It really, really does. Yeah. Have a great adventure. Rest well, have a nice weekend. Don't have too many panic dreams. I'm just like constantly panic dreaming, but that's what we do. Do lots of nice things. Take your mind off it. You're going to be brilliant. It's going to be fine. I love you. I love you. love you my darling all right lots of love i love you bye diggers dig it is a percyphonica production