Dig It with Jo Whiley and Zoe Ball - Oasis Reunion, Harry Styles’ Sex Toys and Successional Planting

Episode Date: July 30, 2025

Jo and Zoe cover the emotional return of Oasis at Wembley, tales from Latitude Festival, and Harry Styles’ new Pleasing product. There’s also expert advice from gardening guru Jamie Butterworth on successional planting for late summer colour. Got something to ask Jo and Zoe? Or a tip to share? Get in touch! ⸻ GET IN TOUCH 📧 Email us: [e-mail] 📱 Text us: 07477 038795 💬 Or tap here to send a voice note or message on WhatsApp: https://wa.me/447477038795 ⸻ GET EARLY AND AD-FREE EPISODES Become a member of The Potting Shed for early and ad-free episodes and bonus content 👉 https://digit.supportingcast.fm/ ⸻ SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS 🧦 This episode is supported by Snag Tights — get 10% off Chub Rub Shorts with code DIGIT10 👉 www.snagtights.com 🛏️ Thanks also to Eight Sleep — save up to £350 on the Pod 5 Ultra with code DIGIT 👉 www.eightsleep.com/digit 🧴 And to Ancient and Brave — get 20% off your first one-off purchase with the code DIGIT 👉 www.ancientandbrave.earth/planet ⸻ CREDITS Exec Producer: Jonathan O’Sullivan Assistant Producer: Caillin McDaid Technical Producers: Will Gibson & Oliver Geraghty Video Editor: Connor Berry Dig It is a Persephonica production

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healthcare.ca.ca.com. Hi, Zoe. How you doing? I'm doing all right, my darling. You look gorgeous, pretty and pink. Thank you very much. How's your, how many coffees have you had? I have only had the one coffee. It's a dangerous game because if I have two coffees, I get really anxious and I start heavy breathing and everyone in the household is like, you're right, you're right. We've had, like so many nice comments from people who've been listening and watching the podcast. So thank you very much indeed. They are so appreciated. And yeah, it's just nice to know that we're not the only ones who have complicated coffee orders who get hyper after having one or two coffers and just kind of we're all pretty similar really. They're all going through this together. It kind of

makes us feel a lot better and hopefully you too. Yeah. And it's nice to know that we're sitting in our rooms and having these little chats and there are people out there listening. I know lots of people listen on their dog walks. I had a really lovely message from someone listening in Australia, someone listening in Malaysia. So welcome to everybody and thank you so much and do get in touch with us. We really love hearing your messages and reading your messages and I have tried to respond to as many as I can actually. So yeah, thanks for reaching out. It means a hell of a lot to us both. Can I just read out a couple? This is from Stacey, Stacey Dale, who said Wednesdays are the days that I have chemotherapy, but knowing that the new episode of Digget come out on a Wednesday

makes me happy. So Wednesdays are redeemed. So we're helping in some small way to make Wednesdays a little bit better. Oh, Stacey, yeah, we're sending you lots of love, my darling, and I hope you've got lots of strength and a lot of love around you. I can only imagine how tough that is, what you're going through at the moment. We send you so much love. This one, on spending time with your kids during the school run, Black Bree Stone said, learnt to drive in my 40s so that I could do the secondary school run. Yes. My son has such great music taste and shares with me on the journey each day. It really did strike a little nerve with people here, didn't it, that chat? So many people saying how precious the school run is to them. And a lot of people saying how lucky we are to get

to do the school run, because not everybody does, because lots of people have to work. I know. I think that's why, yeah, for me, that's why the morning school run is so important because I don't get to do it because I'm working. I'm not there in the evenings. It's quite fine. though, because they're not all positive. And I do empathise. There are quite a lot of people saying, what? You love the school run? It's absolute hell. You know, some people trying to get three or four kids out the house all at the same time can be really tricky. So I do appreciate that as well. And this really made me laugh from Anne-Marie Sampson. My daughter, now a lovely mum, was a nightmare to drive to school as she attempted to put on her mascara and drink coffee and berate me for every pothole,

clearly I hit them on purpose. Obviously you did. That's a great message. And we've had some gifts. This is so lovely. I just want to say thanks to Shoka, who had these dolls made of us, Joe. One of the childminders at her girls' school made them.

They took about 10 days to make. They are knitted. Look, it's you and I. And I love the fact that she's even taken them outside a lovely potting shed to do it. a photo shoot with the dolls. And she sent us a voice note as well on nicknames. Hi, Zoe and Joe.

It's Shokas and Ferrum. So my married surname is Ring, R-I-N-G, and we have two daughters. So we call them the ringlets. They're Connie, who's 11, and Nula, who's 7. My maiden name was Swift. Therefore, my business is

Swift Horticulture. And even now, at 43, if I bump into school friends, they still call me Swifty. The original Swifty. The original Swifty. Oh, thank you, Shoka. I follow Shoka, top gardening tips as well. And thanks for the dolls.

They're amazing. Oh, dear. Sorry, so Shoka, I just wanted to just add. And I really, really love those dolls. I was just looking at them in amazement because I've had these for years now. And these, hopefully you can see them. Am I holding them in the right place? So I've got little Kirk Cobain.

Can you see him? I love Kurt. And we'll put Kurt down and then I've got Noel from the Mighty Bush. I love me a knitted doll. If it's in the figure of an icon, I absolutely love them. So they're in the toilets downstairs

sitting in little pots. I have had those for years and years and years. There's an amazing girl who makes those. I will find her name and put them on the detail so that we'll give us some credit because she's great. Such good gifts as well. Yes. Oh no, I bought them for other people, yeah.

Oh, such great gifts. Fantastic. Okay, we've had so many suggestions on the subject of anti-chafering pants. By the way, thanks to everybody who got in touch. Honestly, I didn't even realise there were so many labels and different options. Megababe, M&S, Bodyglide, Primark, all mentions, special mention to Cape Cod Sunshine, who says, Zoe Ball, you've made my day. I relate. And I can't hang my beige ones on the washing line.

I'm with you, girl. Ordered pink ones from snag tights this week. I have ordered some pistachio-colored ones. There's something about nude underwear. It is so practical, but it looks disgusting. It's just, and also when it goes through a wash and it picks up the slight tinge of another colour, I mean, it's really gross. I do that, I do that. Hide it, hide it all.

So thanks for the response to that. It was huge. Brilliant. Wow. Pistachio and pink sounds great, really good. And obviously resonates with so. many different people. So yeah, you really hit a nerve. Joe, how was your last weekend? Last weekend, it was great. I went to Latitude. So this is the weekend, the festival that I do that I

don't work at. So I can just go and hang out with my friends. We do it every year. And when you get there, you see there are lots of other families coming together as well. So, you know, we don't get to see Amy Paolo and live very much. But when we all come together for this whole weekend, we have the most amount of fun and we catch up and we do all the gossiping. And we do all the gossiping. And we see all the bands that we love and we get very, very silly, which is what we did, played lots of games and had the nicest time. Met so many wonderful people. And Latitude is, I really, really love the festival because it's, there are so many beautiful elements to it and lots of areas that you can go to to have fun and discover weird and wonderful creative arts happening and bands

performing. I saw your ex, saw Norman. Oh, did you show? He was on Saturday. Brilliant. He was brilliant. He was brilliant. Honestly, I've never. Bizar. He's very good, isn't he? He's a whole show. And it was fantastic. It was so good. It was so good. It was so good.

Also enjoyed Sigrid and Emika, who I've got a lot of time for. Mika, we used to have on Radio One. I did the live lounge and he came to my house. And we did Mika in my live lounge and he played with my wonderful dog, the Mighty Bouch. And so to see him after a couple of decades down the line playing on this main stage, this fantastic entertainer, this incredible performer. And my girls dancing around to something that's become a real anthem as they've grown up. And that's big girls, you are beautiful.

That man who had a foresight to write a song like that that has meant so much to so many women, I just, yeah, I have so much love and respect for Mika. So I had a great time. It was really good. Snow Patrol were playing. And there was, you featured in one of my favorite radio shows, Dead Ringers, which is the satirical show on Radio 4. and yeah, you got a mention.

You got a mention. They had it, I think they did like a post-Glaastonbury episode. Get your ears around this, Joe. Welcome back to the BBC's coverage of Glastonbury. I'm shiny, happy smiley, Joe Wiley. I'm not saying I'm best mates with all the bands, but Snow Patrol just fitted my kitchen. There you go, there you go.

There you go. I think that's, yeah, didn't actually fit my kitchen, did play in my kitchen because we did the live lounge. We did my radio show once from here and Snow Patrol came and they actually played in the kitchen. So, you know, there's another band that could come and paint the kitchen. I'm really looking for someone to come and paint the kitchen. That'd be very handy indeed. Fantastic. We've got elbow on the phone. Yeah, Guy Garvey is bringing his tool belt is on his way around. Yeah, that'd be great. No, it did make me laugh. It really made me laugh. Because you have, you've had amazing people come play in your house. It's so good.

I'll never forget when Jay-Z went to your house. That was like one of the most brilliant radio shows I ever heard. It was very, very surreal. Yeah, he was so sweet to my mum and my grandma. That is why I will always love Jay-Z because he came in and he was like the epitome of politeness and sat there drinking champagne and having strawberries with my mum. Oh, what a man, what a lovely man. He knows how to treat a mum and a grandma.

So very, very sweet. Did some swimming as well at latitude because if it's a festival and there is water activity to be done, then I will get in that water. And that was really nice because when you've got a terrible hangover, the best place to go is to get under the water. And then it's like a baptism. You come up and you go,

oh, I don't hurt quite so much as, yeah, I think. In that beautiful lake. Yeah, if anyone's not been to, if anybody wants to go with the family to a festival, it is one of the best, isn't it? I felt quite sad, though, it's weird. Having grown up children as they grow up and you pass through different stages of going to festivals

and I did have a point of thinking, God, I wonder if my family are now too old to come to this festival because when I used to take them, we did the how to start a fire, how to whittle something, how to go on the hill to skilter. And we walked, because they really wanted to make stuff. They wanted to do clay modelling, but they're now 16, 24 and we try to find something to do, but there actually wasn't grown up kind of 20-something crafting to do, and I felt a bit sad about that.

But we watched Bansin said, and we made her own mischief by playing stupid games and tents. So it was fine. It was fine. What about your weekend? because you saw Oasis, right? I went to see Oasis on Friday. I don't think I was quite prepared for what an emotional experience it would be. It was immense.

It really was. Everything's been so hectic recently. It was like, oh, good, I'm going to see Oasis, right, quick. Lucky enough to get tickets because I know people really struggled to get tickets. So I was very grateful to be going. And then suddenly to get, you know, having seen the buildup from all the socials in the week thinking, oh my God, it does look so brilliant. And you and I both know, having interviewed Noel and Liam over the years, you know, how heartbreaking it's been for everybody that they had fallen out.

And because they're, you know, individually, they're two of the greatest. They are original rock and roll stars. And they don't really make them like that anymore. They are both very funny. They're really smart. They've written some fantastic music. They are great performers. and they were so part of our, you know, music history. It was very sad that they weren't, you know, mates anymore. And I know, you know, the press have had a field day with that and the reasons and where we ever know, it's not really any of our business. And this was something that we just never thought would happen, that they would ever get back together.

So, you know, I kept hearing rumors that it was going to happen. Other friends of mine in the industry going, well, no, they're quite strong rumors that it is going to happen. We were really lucky that our seats were quite high up, so we could see them at the back of the set, at the back of the stage walking up. And suddenly, even from that great distance to see Liam and his Swagger and Noel and then Giam and Andy and Joey and Bonhead, it's just watching them walk up to the stage. It's like, this is really happening. This is really happening. That's when it really hit me. And as they walked out onto the stage, I mean, the noise in Wembley, my ears were ringing for two days afterwards, the noise was incredible.

And I, people around me, you know, people were, grown men were crying. There was a fantastic guy in front of me who ended up being in all my photographs because he was singing to the whole stadium himself and singing back to his mates behind him. And he knew every single word. You know, and he was in tears during Cast No Shadow and I think he turned to me and went, I didn't think that would be the one that would get me. It was the most incredible wall of sound. And they were on such good form. Liam was teasing the crowd.

You know, he was like, come on, when's it going to get dark? I want to get naughty. You know, pointing people out in the audience. And a real strong moment when Noel sang half the world way, the whole stadium singing and their torches, you know, torches on your phones in the air. lovely, lovely cardboard cutout of Pep Guardiolis right behind Noel is in every shot. And a real sweet moment when Noel kissed Bonehead or it might have been the other way around.

But it was just the sound of all the fans singing back. And wonderful to see people of all ages, you know, my age, older, younger kids, everybody singing together. it was so powerful and long may it continue. And as you're watching, you're thinking, will they do more music together? Because they're on such good form. It's, you know, an electric atmosphere if you can get your hands on a ticket.

You know, even if you have to fly to Vancouver or go to Paris or wherever, I would not hesitate if you can to go see them. You're going to see them, aren't you? It's a moment in time, isn't it then? So I'm guessing it's not what the band are actually doing on stage that is like there's not like, the Meeker performance with wings, but it's the coming together of all those people

and remembering who they were and what those songs meant to them at that moment in time. And it is, it's that euphoric recall of who you were when you heard those songs, why they meant so much to us. And so many of their songs have been with us for very poignant moments in our lives as well. And I don't think I've ever heard a crowd sing in unison as land. How does that ever? Wow. You know, I reckon possibly for Queen, maybe, at Live Aid, you know.

But personally, I don't think I have witnessed that. It was immense. And hats off to them as a band, I thought they were wonderful, you know. Talking of hats, you met them, didn't you? A long time ago. Should we hear you and the band talking hats? This is a long time ago. How old and when?

Oh, 94, right, right at the beginning. Yeah, I was about 23. I went to interview them for a kids' music show called The Ozone and I was a little bit nervous and I apologise for the outfit. Have you got any massive ambitions? We just want to be the biggest band in the world as big as we can be.

Today for today and that is it and story. And we want all the things that go with it. Oh, I want to be a big pop star and I want to do loads of people's heads and because they're going, look at him, look at him. And I'm going, yeah. But I want it and I don't want, I'm not embarrassed about it. You know what I mean? A lot of people get embarrassed about it.

success that they get, they go, oh, I didn't really want it. You know what I mean? Of course you wanted it. You know what I mean? Because that's what you go out for. You do it. It doesn't matter whether you're in a band or you're anything, whatever. I want to be a space man. That's really moving. That's very moving that Liam unashamedly is saying I want to be as big as I could possibly be. And so to be on Wembley, at Wembley or in Manchester and to have all those people. God, that's so lovely, really lovely.

It really is, isn't it? And also just seeing the, them hold hands out there together. And they look like they're loving every minute of it. Do they? That's good. It is really moving. And this is mind-blowing. I mean, this is on a scale that they, they never did you. But right back in the day when they did that gig at the Newcastle Riverside that I went to when I was doing radio in the early days and someone jumped up on stage and it all got a bit nasty. I mean, that was a tiny, tiny club. They played at the road mender in Northampton where I come from. I think we've got a little clip. This is from the rise and fall of Oasis. You can listen to. This is what happened. The Newcastle.

gospel gig in 94. The whole band's come off stage now. Liam's just come back on stage. I'm sorry, I'll sit for tonight, because of the guitarist has been to hospital to get stitches in his face. So I'm sorry about how I'm kind of sure without guitarist. That's an announcement that Noel's actually gone to hospital, get stitches in his face. Basically, everyone's just completely gutted and it's ruined the whole night. Yeah, someone jumped up on stage and hit Noel.

And, yeah, as you heard, the gig was just called off. it. They were raging afterwards. I remember we got bundled onto a bus and then we're back to the hotel. And, oh my God, I've never seen Liam more furious than he was in that moment, at that moment in time. Just protecting his brother, obviously. It was a scary moment. But I love the fact that you were there. And that is such a good documentary, The Rise and Fall of Oasis, which you did with your mate Lamo, Steve LaMack, that's on BBC sounds and anyone who's not heard it should listen back. Just their story is something else. I wonder if their mum's been. I'm amazed that we haven't seen a photograph of Peggy

that she hasn't made an appearance at some point because this must be the fulfilment. This is what, you know, I've always was saying, oh, I just wanted to do a gig for their mum, really. I never believed in a million years that this would happen because there was so much anger between the two brothers, so much vitriol. I just, I mean, famously just went,

no, it's never going to happen because that's what they kept saying all the time. Do you think they'll do new material? Do you think they would do another Oasis album more do you think this will be it, Joe? I think it's pointless to speculate because what do we know? What do we know? What do we know? I mean,

Noel's a really great songwriter. Of course, it's the next chapter. You've had bands like Blur coming back and doing the Ballad of Darren two years ago now, which has just got some of their best ever songs on. There are so many artists, Swade have got a new album out. Pulp, yeah. How fantastic is a new pulp album. So, you know, with hope in my heart, I would really love Oasis to have another album, a new album because of all the songs that they wrote way back in the day. And I'm sure, and they've continued to write new songs. You know, Noel's High Flying Birds, there was some

really brilliant music that he did. So how could you stop being that songwriter and not wanting to release new music as Oasis with your brother? That would seem insane to me. So hopefully it will happen. We'll quote you on that. Yeah, thanks. I remember you talking to Pulp recently about that and Jarvis talking about how they got, you know, they were in a room together and they weren't really sure how it would go, having not played for so long. Nervacking, right? Really nerve-wracking. There are bands that I probably, I will never see now because members are missing and sadly passed away, but I would have done anything to see talking heads.

I would have absolutely loved. And for a moment, there's been all these little, you know, anniversaries recently. And I kept thinking, would they, would they tour again? Yeah, no, that wouldn't look like that's going to happen. One thing, I think I've said this before, but what I really like is seeing, the likes of pulp and blur. And having this success now of coming back and doing these shows and playing the old songs and the new songs

to a phenomenal amount of people and feeling that love. And being the age that they are, 60 something, they feel it and they really appreciate it because when you're young and it's all rock and roll and you're adult and you don't know quite what's going on. There's an arrogance there.

You're loving that moment, but you're not properly appreciating what you mean to people and what your songs mean to people. And that I think is what is nice from the footage that we've seen. scene of Oasis now, just knowing that it's different, it's different this time round. It means so much more. We're going to take a quick break for some ads. But if you're keen to listen to

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Earth slash Planet. If you're loving Digit so far, don't forget to hit follow so that you never miss an episode. Welcome back. So we've been chatting Oasis so far. I've got to say REM are the one band that I would like to see reform. Oh. You just mentioned talking heads. I forgot to mention them.

I knew there was somebody in Macaub. have got back together, Oasis have got back together, REM are the ones that I would quite like to see in a little dingy nightclub somewhere doing their songs, that would be great. From one end of the spectrum to the other end of the spectrum, let's go on to gardening now, a mare's tail. When I spoke about this, we were talking about gardening dilemmas and things that are troubling us at the moment. And there's a thing called Mayer's Tale, which is a weed, which I have in my garden, and it's only recently appeared. And I thought when I was talking about it on the podcast, that nobody would have a clue what I was talking about. But there are people out there who have the same

affliction as me and they have had advice about Mayors' Tale. So thank you to Fiona, who her advice was on Mayer's Tale. Try to get it when it's young and remember not to compost it in your garden waste because it will regenerate from the spores and also the rhizomes of the plant. So do it when it's young. Now your mate, Jamie Butterworth, fantastic chap who helped you and Monty designing the dog garden at Chelsea. He's been in touch because we were talking last week about you needing a bit of colour. Well, I think here's your mate Jamie with some advice. There are three things that I can suggest to try and help with this. The first one is choosing plants that would naturally flower into mid to late summer. So plants like these Achilles,

which, this is Achillea cloth of gold. This is Echinacea Pallida, loves the drought. And then we've got fennel. And fennel can be a bit of a thug, but actually is loving these conditions. Three plants, really simple, but put together, look great, I think. And then further into the border, we've got plants like Vabina Benerienensis. Helianphus, which is a perennial sunflower. Sanguissorba, pink tanner. We've got a pink Achillea in there as well, so, and looking particularly good at the moment is the blue orangium. Great plants for drought, but also for keeping that colour going into the summer months.

Step two is actually maintaining these. So this is a Salvia Caradonna. You can see it's gone over, it's finished and it's not too late to give it a complete cutback So this is what some people would call the Chelsea shop obviously We're a little bit past Chelsea now or the Hampton hack a little bit past Hampton now as well So maybe the three of us need to come up with a new name and the third bit was actually some succession of sewing and getting some annuals in there So we're probably a bit too late for this year but for next year Joe, sprinkling some cosmos in there

or some tajities or plants that will just give you some pops of colour and late interest. If you'd sew them around the time of Chelsea directly into your ball you could sprinkle them through there. They'll come up and they'll help to plug that gut really. I hope that helps.

Good look with the garden, good luck with the podcast and hopefully I see you both really soon. Oh, he's the best, isn't he? He's so great and gorgeous. I'm really... That's heck of the dog. That's heck. Was that, no, I don't think that was Hector.

Barney, I think that might have been. I really like the practical getting in there and showing us how low to go without chopping. I'm thinking it could be the latitude lop. Maybe we do it kind of. I think the latitude lop is a good name. We should say, actually, if you want to see some of Jamie's gorgeous plants that he's talking about, you can watch us on Spotify.

But, yeah, getting in really low and cutting down salvias. That's, yeah, I don't think I've gone low enough on my, on my Caradonna. But I love. those echinacea pallid out, I think they're one of the most beautiful flowers. Like at every stage, when they're in bud, and then when they come out and they've got that beautiful big head, and then the petals go backwards. I planted some. They haven't done much. So I don't know what I did with those. So I'm wondering if maybe they'll come up next year. Yeah, I've never had any joy with Echinacea. That's why I don't have it in the garden. My soil is really clay. And like he said,

it's like a prairie plant. So they work with this dry. but mine, I've just never ever been able to grow at Kanisha. I've got quite a lot of what he said in the border. Vabina has gone crackers this year, the Vabina. But Cosmos, I've never succeeded either in just scattering seeds in the garden and then just seeing what comes up. It just never seems to work. Maybe I'll try harder next year or maybe it'll work next year.

But Cosmos are definitely good for colour. What veg has done well for you this year? Chard. Chard has done all right so far. That hasn't got eaten. kale the kale got eaten straight away that's that's gone immediately the beetroot's coming on okay tomatoes maybe i might have some tomatoes in the the veg patch i'll go and have a look at those afterwards and the potatoes are coming through and maybe i should start digging those up they were

a bit tiny last time i dug them up so they were no good do you know what beatroot is quite a rewarding thing to plant isn't it because they seem to cope quite well beetroot but you've got to do the old succession seeding haven't you got to get the one lot of in because that's my thing. You get a big harvest and then you're like, oh no, we need more. This sort of that kind of planning. Yeah, radishes. They're another really favorite thing because they grow pretty quickly. But I'm saying this, I haven't been in the vegetable patch for about two weeks. I'm going to go out there and see what's going on. But I know Innie's weeding that it's completely out of control. Everything's kind of collapsing under the weight of its fruit. The tomatoes are

probably lying on the floor and the pumpkins have probably run away with themselves. But if anyone's watching and you've got, and you want to show us your plots, I'd love to see them. Think of it as like a country fair or those village horticultural shows where people go and show their produce for the people. The best turn. Let's do it on the podcast. Send us your produce and we'll show everybody else. And I'll take some photographs of mine and I'll put them up as well so you can see what

mine look like. Show us your veg, folks. Show us your veg. What's done well for you this year? And we're not impressed by size, just, although I probably would be. very impressed. Oh, on that subject, Harry Stiles, it's got a sex toy out. Well, this has taken the world by storm to the point where I looked at up and I couldn't even get one because they're sold out. They're sold out. They're quite, do you know what? I have to say, I've always found Harry to be such a

gracious chap. He is very lovely. He has time for everybody. I've run into him all over the place and end up having quite funny conversations with him. We talked about pie outside a pie shop once. He's a sweetheart. Anyway, he's got this company and they've brought out a sex toy. I mean, I've got some perfume bottles that look like that. Is that that's a well, yes. With the little not nose. So apparently the pinky bit is for external play and then the other end for internal play, which is also the handle. And I have to say, I think he is a smart boy. It is beautifully designed. And very stylish, just like Harry. himself. A friend of mine was quite disappointed that it wasn't in the shape of his face. I was like,

I don't think it's actually a sex toy shape like Harry Starz. But they've sold out and the lube that went with it has sold out as well. And, you know, he's, he's good. He's got a really good business head, hasn't he? Because I kind of think. I can't, I've been trying to imagine the meetings that like when they're discussing what's, what's, what's you're going to, the next products that you're going to endorse, Harry. What's he going to be? Because he's, I mean, my daughter's, bought loads of his makeup, or I say my daughter, I've bought lots of his makeup and nail varnishes and things in the past. But that meeting, when someone goes, right, Harry, we had a really, really good idea. And obviously, it's pleasing. I think that's the name of his company.

Yeah, pleasing. Someone's had that light bulb moment at some point to go, pleasing. And please yourself. And that's where this came in. I think the actual byline for it is please yourself like you mean it, which is, you know, it's very true. I have to say, you know, on, when I found myself single after quite a while of not being single and, you know, it had menopause, I had libido issues and stuff like that. And, you know, slowly those things sort of resolved themselves. It was actually a lot of my younger friends who said, Zoe, you need to get yourself this. And I was quite shocked at how much the sex toy world had changed and come on leaps and bounds since, you know, the tired sort of display in my bottom drawer. And which a lot of which I got rid of

of. I was like, oh, God. Because you also... How did you get rid of it? Where did you get rid of it to? How did displace of those things? I didn't put it in a skip. My friend had this great story about one time she'd cleared out all her stuff. Because I've talked about this a lot of my girlfriends about getting rid of some of the paraphernalia that you no longer use or, you know, you've had from over the years or looks a bit of a sorry state, including underwear and other stuff like that. And she'd thrown all of her stuff into a bin that had blown over in the night, in the winds and her. emptied in front of her house and she'd had to get up in the morning. It was like, oh my God.

Anyway, I did I did this on the advice of some of my younger friends. I cleared out the drawer, got rid of loads of stuff and I sort of double bagged it and hid it in the hope that that did not happen to me. And some of the stuff you can get these days, really, it's really come on. I bought one sex toy that it was quite small, you know, quite compact, you can take it with you, that I was so impressed by that I actually bought it for four of my girlfriends. I was like, you need this in your life. You know, because whether you've got a partner or you haven't got a partner or you use it with your partner or not, you know, it's, I was really impressed how much these things have changed. So I think, you know, Harry's obviously onto a good thing.

And I tell you what, if I could have bought one, I would have bought one. And I would have given you a full report. But sadly, I'm sure you'll be getting one coming along soon. They see, I buy hoary horrors for my friends. You buy sex toys. He says it all. We're so similar and so different. And you definitely don't want to confuse those two.

I'll tell you, that's for sure. But I say, bravo, Harry, for, you know, getting on board this. You know, he's a smart, he's a smart boy. He really is. He's a smart cookie, yeah. Initiative and style as well, yeah. Yeah. And if anyone has managed to get their hands on, a pleasing,

let us know if you've got a report or a review. Does it get a five-star review? It looks quite impressive. I love the colour scheme, the pink and the burgundy, very nice, very pleasing. I've just realised I'm dressed like a Harry-style sex toy. I've got a pink top on and I've got burgundy trousers. There you go. I did it subliminally. How pleasing. You didn't even realize, Joe. I aim to please at all times. This is just, this is just too good. So Joe, your album of the week, I can see just behind you, and I'm very pleased to see it because I had this record as a child. Talk us through it. It's very good. K-Tempis album, can I just say, is if you're talking contemporary stuff, is amazing. You should definitely listen to that incredible wordsmith. But this is the jungle book record. Oh, so it's the jungle book record, but not just the jungle book. I mean, look at that little kid on there. It's the jungle book with the Mike Sam singers and Jeff.

love and it's Walt Disney Animal Songs so it's not just about Jungle Book but it's got everything in there. So you've got Colonel Hathas March, you've got the bare necessities which nobody can resist. That's Ken Barry, Ken Barry, and then the likes of Winnie the Pooh, never smile at a crocodile.

I mean, how many of these songs have you sang? All the greats. And then when I see an elephant fly, all those songs on their amazing album. So yeah, that's one from my childhood. What are you going to pluck from your record collection? So last week we had, Yusuf, Kat Stevens.

This week, oh, it feels new. What if we're, oh my lord, we've got paint your, paint my wagon. I've got this. I love this film. Paint your wagon, which was a fantastic musical starring Clint Eastwood and Lee Marvin. Hand me down the can of beans. And I talk to the trees. Zoe, I've got the seven inch of that.

You're joking. He's got Clint Eastwood. I talk to the trees and it's got Lee Marvin doing Wandering Star on the other side. Wandering Star. That wandering star is going to be played at my funeral. Oh, I love that. That's in my list. I've got a list where I keep on my music list and it's called Six Feet Under.

And the thing is, once you're gone, everyone else is in charge of the music that gets played. But if I have any say on my last, on my exit off this planet, I would have that wandering star. I think it's such an amazing performance. I love his voice. I need to watch this again, all about the Gold Rush, of course. and Clint Eastwood singing, I talk to the trees, it doesn't get better than that.

I'm quite pleased with our choices so far. You're doing very well with your, yeah, digging out. Okay. Yeah. Now, I love, that's such a good one. I would have, I've already decided this as well. My exit song is Old Man River, Paul Robeson. Do you know that?

Again, just one of those songs that has so much emotion in it. And I guess takes you back to one of those films that you watch with your parents when you're young. But oh my God, it makes me cry every single time. I think that would be a perfect exit song. Really nice. There we go. These are good.

Another good talking subject. If you have planned your exit songs. You know, let us know what they are. You can always rely on us, vagality and cheerfulness. I know, exactly. Should we leave it there? Should we make our exit? Swift exit now.

I'm wandering star and off I go. Darling, have a good week. And you too, yeah. Fun one. Look forward to hearing from anyone on any subjects that we have discussed. If you want to get in touch, just look at the show notes and you can find our address. Take care, diggers. Bye, see ya. Digit is a Persephonicah production.