Diggnation (rebooted) - AI Sex Bots Are Here, Fires Reboot Kevin's Life, Wild NVIDIA Updates | E009 | Diggnation

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

We’re tackling a mix of tech, personal stories, and some truly bizarre headlines this week! Kevin shares his "Dry January" journey, fueled by Athletic Brewing’s non-alcoholic beers, and r...ecounts the devastating LA fires that destroyed his home, forcing him to rethink what really matters. On the tech front, we dive into the wild world of AI sex bots, the relaxing potential of "Face F#$%er" smart goggles, and cutting-edge advancements like NVIDIA’s game-changing graphics cards and AI software. Plus, we’re hyped for Diggnation Live in Austin, Texas, and we can’t forget Iceland's unexpected cucumber shortage.📚 Time Code Markers0:12:50 - Face massaging smart goggles0:17:00 - Kevin’s Dry January journey0:20:15 - Diggnation Live Event in Austin0:25:51 - Kevin’s house fire story and reflections0:51:00 - Lenovo’s flexible screen laptop from CES0:58:30 - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 and DLSS 4 discussion1:15:45 - Lucid Motors partners with SoundHound1:22:00 - AI "Operator" software revolution1:26:00 - Bitcoin’s role in banking post-SEC changes1:32:15 - Iceland’s cucumber shortage—thanks to TikTok!1:35:15 - Social media trends and their impact1:38:00 - Chat about the new studio setup📢 Top StoriesNew Lenovo Laptop Expands / CES  • Lenovo launches expanding, rollable l...  Nvidia GeForce RTX 5090 review: Brutally fast, but DLSS 4 is the game changerhttps://www.pcworld.com/article/25858...Chinese Sex Bot + AI: Next-gen AI Bots Are On the Wayhttps://www.pcmag.com/news/chinese-se...Cucumber Shortages in Iceland Blamed on TikTok Crazehttps://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/cu...Honda’s New EV at CES 2025https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/10/24...Lucid’s Partnership with SoundHound and What it Means for LCID Stockhttps://www.marketbeat.com/originals/...The US SEC Revokes SAB 121: What This Means for Crypto and BanksThe Powerful AI Tool That Cops (or Stalkers) Can Use to Geolocate Photos in Secondshttps://www.404media.co/the-powerful-...👥 People MentionedTim Ferriss: Guest at Diggnation Live and longtime tea buddy with KevinChris Sacca: Tech legend joining Diggnation LiveMix Master Mike: Beastie Boys DJ, spinning at Diggnation LiveMaggie: Organizing the Diggnation Live eventAllison: Co-hosted another podcast with Alex, "Half Hour Happy Hour"🛠️ Products and Tech HighlightsAI Sex Bots: Next-gen dolls with integrated AI that react to touchFace F#$%er Smart Goggles: Massage tech that lowers your heart rateLenovo Flexible Screen Laptop: CES innovation with expanding screensNVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090: Ultra-powerful GPU with DLSS 4Lucid Motors x SoundHound: AI integration for the next generation of EVsAthletic Brewing: Non-alcoholic beers fueling Dry JanuaryMiele Air Purifiers: Keeping the air safe during LA’s fires🎥 Movies MentionedBlade Runner: Referenced in discussions about humanoid AI🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0bzwpvU...📱 Follow us on TikTok:

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There is a new Chinese sex bot with integrated AI. Whoa, it looks really real. So when you squeeze different areas, it moans. Oh my God. I will make your mind. I will make your mind. I was like, just hire an actress from the US. Hire a porn actress for the US.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Just go out and get a great voice for about like 30 bucks. The end of that video just said, serving mankind. That's how they end the video. Welcome to Dig Nation. Also potentially hazardous to your health. Alright, moving on. Why do you have flies in your freaking house?
Starting point is 00:00:54 I noticed this earlier. It's southern California and I have fruit. You put zombie and you put gear in the title and I don't want to do it. Dignation.com Hello friends and family. Welcome to Dignation.com. Hello friends and family. Welcome to Dignation episode number nine. I'm Kevin Rose. And I'm Alex Albrecht.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Dignation of course covers some of the hottest news stories all over the interworlds as they're called. Nobody calls them that. We are going to start Cyberspace. Cyberspace. We are coming to you from a makeshift it's actually my mother-in-law's ADU.
Starting point is 00:01:27 So, super sexy. It is very nice. It is very nice. Laundry within arm's reach. A fridge. A fridge within arm's reach. A mouth within arm's reach. A bathroom within arm's reach.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Everything's within arm's reach. My wide toe shoes. Thank you. You know, I did not mean to wear these wide toe shoes. I thought they looked very science fiction. They're horrible. They're not horrible. They're my workout shoes and I had them and then I came here and then you commented on them and I realized they're going to be on the camera.
Starting point is 00:01:55 My favorite. Oh, how's your fucking foot fetish site going? My foot fetish site? Oh, you have a only feet. Thousands of signups? Oh, yeah. Oh, Jesus. We have. You make iter feat! Thousands of signups? Oh yeah. Oh jeez.
Starting point is 00:02:05 We have... You're making like a hundred grand a year. Yeah, we have a signup and it's my mom. I'm like, mom, you're just a thousand. So did anyone sign up at all? Yeah. Really? Really?
Starting point is 00:02:18 How much is it? Are you faking this? OnlyFans Totally Rad Shoe. Oh my god, OnlyFans Totally rad shoe. That is genius. By the way, first off, we're gonna get into all the craziness that's been going on in and around Los Angeles, and around ourselves, mostly Kevin. But also Happy New Year everybody. I cannot believe it's been a full year. First, it feels like a full year. First episode back. First episode
Starting point is 00:02:45 back. We are also recording mid-January, or not mid-January, late January. So it is currently still dry January. Congratulations to you, sir. I want to see, well first of all, cheers. Yeah. I will say before we get into the chaos, De Chutes was my hometown beer up in Portland. I'm well versed in the world of De Chutes. Some of my favorite beer, Mirpond, their Squeezy E IPA, fresh squeezed IPA is fantastic. Is this a fresh squeeze?
Starting point is 00:03:16 This is a fresh squeeze, but this is non-alcoholic. And so this is good. It's real, non-alcoholic beers have gotten so much better. So this is athletic brewing. and it's really interesting. I heard this interview that was about yeast. Yeast. But it's gonna make sense. Because essentially what happens is
Starting point is 00:03:35 the way they do non-alcoholic beer, the way they used to do non-alcoholic beer when it was like, you know, Odools, you know what I mean? Was they would basically brew beer and then boil it and let the alcohol evaporate and then recarbonated it and try their best to recarbonate it and then actually it tastes like acid.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Because they basically, you're boiling the beer, you're boiling off a lot of the stuff and a lot of the hops and all the flavors. What they do now is they actually use a yeast that doesn't turn sugars into alcohol and carbonation or CO2. They found they have a yeast that turns it into like, not methane, but something, it basically,
Starting point is 00:04:15 it digests the sugars the way we digest sugars. So it does the same fermentation process, but it doesn't generate any ethanol or any alcohol. And then what they do is- This does not sound good for your gut. Like, is this gonna fuck you? No, it's actually good. So they did a study.
Starting point is 00:04:32 It's an experimental yeast. No, no, no, check this out. They did a study where they had people drink one beer a day to see if it helped with their gut biome. Half of the people drank a single alcohol beer and half of the people drank a single non-alcoholic beer. And the benefit of the in the gut biome was the same and very beneficial to your gut biome of having a single beer but the health benefits. The benefit was the same and very beneficial?
Starting point is 00:05:04 It's yeah, it's all beneficial. Wait, so all of it, like any beer I drink is going to be good for my gut? Correct. That's not true. No, no, no. No, alcohol beer or non-alcoholic beer. However, alcoholic beer then also has negative impacts on your health outside of your gut biome.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I see. So they were just studying the probiotic nature of beer and they were saying, does non-alcoholic, new non-alcoholic beer have the same beneficial probiotic results as regular beer? The answer is yes. Sponsored by Budweiser. Sponsored by Budweiser. Exactly. All of that is to say, hey, beer.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Have you ever like, I mean, you've had too much beer where you're jacks up your stomach right my stomach's never been you know been beer system now have you ever had issues with beer I can't do I can't do beer anymore I love these beer interesting yeah folks have to well but that's I mean think about it when we were kids like kids when we were we were kids we were at an alcohol-approved age, and also dumb and young, I drank so much fucking beer.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I mean, Dignation was like... Founded on beer. Was found, literally founded on beer. Which, by the way, it was so funny because I remember the first episode, I just happened to get a case of corona. Oh, was that our first episode? Yeah, and I was just like, Hey, I just got a case of corona. You want to have some beers while? Yeah, and I was just like, hey, I just got a case of Corona.
Starting point is 00:06:25 You wanna have some beers while we do this? And you're like, yeah, all right. Cut to the- Alcoholics. Do we get in breweries? Yeah, yeah. We never brewed our own beer, did we? Didn't we have a little pony cake or something? There was something we did.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I'm pretty sure we did some shit. I don't remember. We didn't, we didn't ever brew our own beer. I brewed one for, I did a show called The Half Hour Happier with Alison and Alex, and we went to Stone during Comic-Con, and we brewed our own beer, and it was really good. Like, not one of those ones you get at like, Room and Board, but like the... No, we went to Stone down in San Diego. Oh, Stone's great!
Starting point is 00:07:03 And we had a whole vac to ourselves. Wait, is that in San Diego? Yeah, Stone's in San Diego. Oh. Oh, Stone's great! JERRY. And we had a whole vac to ourselves. KRIS. Wait, is that in San Diego? JERRY. Yeah, Stone's in San Diego. KRIS. Oh Jesus, I love San Diego and Stone. JERRY. We should go! KRIS. Yeah! KRIS. I know! Stone's great! JERRY. I love Stone. We could do a show there like Liggety Spliggety.
Starting point is 00:07:14 KRIS. Dude, I would do that on a heartbeat. We should talk about your adventure though. JERRY. My adventure? KRIS. I mean, before we get... KATE. Don't bury the leaves! KATE. Yeah, okay. What's my adventure? KRIS. Your adventure is that you're alcohol free. I mean, it's just dry January.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I go in every January. How hard is it? So I think we talked about this on the show. I went two summers ago, I did four months of no drinking. That's impressive. But you have to go through some detox. You don't get anything, like the bends or anything? The bends?
Starting point is 00:07:46 I mean, no, I wasn't in a small submarine and then immediately... And then accidentally came up too fast. No, no, no, it's not the bends. It just stops. What do they call it? They call it... There's a thing for it. The bends?
Starting point is 00:07:56 The delirious tremors and shit. No, I'm not... I'm not waking up like delirious tremors. That would be amazing. Delirious tremors. Yeah would be amazing. Yeah, no, I the cold sweats The withdrawal. Yeah, the first night is always a it's always a little hard to go to sleep the first night No, it is because you're like and you're like my I'm just awake
Starting point is 00:08:18 No, but I know what I love doing you just recommend it Well, you just suggest it was that you don't ever stop drinking you You know that time when you take a day off? Oh! You know that first night when you're not having a drink? So yes, that is true. That's always been my biggest issue. Every time I'm like, oh, I'm just going to not drink on the weekdays. Or like, I'm going to go every other week.
Starting point is 00:08:42 By the time 5.30 rolls around and you're like, I mean, what's one extra day? Six o'clock is even worse. I know, but then also, my wife also, by the way, my wife went like three days in dry January and is now just still doing just regular January. Right. But it hasn't been hard this time around. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:09:07 It just seemed a little bit more like this would be a good idea. And then I had gone like a couple days, like six days. I know what she sounds like. It's so funny hearing me talk about it. I went a whole six days without any alcohol. Can you imagine? You just got used to it. Yeah. I felt better.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I... but I... I mean it's... The one thing I'll say is, usually when I do Dry January, it's hard. Mm-hmm. Especially with like Heather having like, I'm gonna have some Jack or whatever. This time it has not been... it's just been like, Nah, alright. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And then I got myself equipped. And we're also doing like... We're remodeling our kitchen. So so we can't go in the front of our house, so we're sort of sequestered in the back of the house. So it also- There's hurdles. Everything's all falling off anyway. You feel like mouse traps for yourself getting up to the fridge.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Just pull my hand. Oh yeah, right, right January. But what about you? It's funny because I did this kind of blow out fun party in SF, holiday party with some friends, and I had a few drinks. I remember just waking up the next morning and just being like, ah, I just, I just, like, you know when you get to the point where you're just so saturated and you're like, December was a lot? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:23 And I was like, okay. And it was funny because a weird thing happened where I was like, I'm just actually not gonna wait till January. And I'm just gonna kind of like take these last couple weeks just kind of like super easy, like the last week and a half. The last time I saw you in your place,
Starting point is 00:10:38 you were like, oh yeah, I haven't had something to drink in like 10 days. Yeah, exactly. And so I started then and then, you know, it's the same kind of situation where the first week and a half, you're just kind of like, oh, I guess you could have a drink here and there. And I would say that, you know, I haven't been,
Starting point is 00:10:55 in January, I've had probably two and a half drinks total. Oh, all right. And then that's not, I mean, I have like a glass of wine one night, and that's kind of it. And I just realized that like, it's this new chapter and this new kind of like going forward, I want it to be about those special moments. It was like, those like really like, dignation will be those moments for me where we get together a couple of times a month, we go out, we have a couple of drinks, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:21 maybe we have a drink with dinner afterwards. And it's like, that was fun. You know, I was just, when I was talking and it's like that was fun You know, I was just funny I was talking my doctor about this and he's like dude he hit me up and he's like He's like just so you know, like I love a good cocktail. Yeah He's like you just had to pick your battles as you get to this age He's like your liver enzymes are not as low as we'd like them to be Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:11:39 It's like a few things where it's like it turns out when you're in your late mid to late 40 He's like you gotta start paying a little bit more attention to this shit you know yeah and so anyway um i've been doing really well like i've been meditating more than i ever have like in a long time i'm like really laser focused on that and that's been a good kind i've been saving that for my like nighttime activity kind of unwind and dude i've bought a face fucker which is amazing i I'm sorry. No, this is like what is it called a face? It's it is the nickname for it. Ah And but what it is, it's my buddy Ryan Vance got it to me the alien dude I want to show you something this I should have fucking brought it. Well, it's so good. It is amazing You have something called a face fucker always bring it
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yes, it's like the alien creature it It's done by Therabody. You know the Theragun people? Yeah, I love them. Okay, so, dude, I'm telling you, my buddy got me this. It was actually at that party in SF because we do this like, um, secret, yeah, exactly, secret Santa shit. And, uh, there's this
Starting point is 00:12:40 device that they came out with and it is, um, and he gifted to me, it's called Smart Goggles. And it's like, a lot of people call it the face fucker. It's like, they're kind of like, and I was like, what is this thing? And he said, dude, trust me, he's like, everyone I know loves this,
Starting point is 00:12:56 has a heart rate sensor built into it. You put your ear pods, your ear pods in, and then it has all these relaxing things. And dude, I was like, he gifted me, I never heard of it right and you look at that you're like okay this is probably one of those things that like smart sharper image type shit but then I saw it was done by Theragun they make good shit you know we like there and so I got one I got I got it, and it was like, I put it on one night, and the first thing it does, dude, is it clamps down on your fucking face.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I don't know if I would like this. No, you might not. It's a little positive of me. I'm spitting all over you. That's all right, we're excited. So. You're face is getting fucked, I get it, I get it. But then it just like squeezes your temples,
Starting point is 00:13:42 and it starts like pushing in really hard on your temples. Oh. And then it starts massaging your nose I'm like what the fuck is going on and then it's a heat comes on it has this heat built into it I'm such a massage and heating your face. Oh my god is so relaxing is How long did the people go you can get away from like six minutes to 25? Okay, and a lot of face fucking but it Really clamps down on you like in a minute hurt. Okay. And a lot of Facebooking. But it really clamps down on you. Like in a doesn't that hurt? It does a little bit. But it's kind of awesome. It does a little bit. It's kind of awesome. And so I have gifted these to a couple people. I got to get you one. And I
Starting point is 00:14:19 dude, if you want to give me a face, what is it? What do you see that little device? He set like a little device. It's like, what does that thing do? Transcribing. It's transcribing. Are you serious? Oh, amazing. Oh my friend. Hello. Well, yeah, I think sitting over there. I don't like it. I don't. I am so it's all of a sudden scared. It's not cheap. It's one hundred and nine hundred nine hundred dollars.
Starting point is 00:14:37 But, dude, I got to tell you, like, so it is your before heart rate. And then when you look at your phone afterwards, I always drop by at least 10 beats. Oh wow. During my session. My heart rate runs high. What's high for you? Well, I told you I had this thing where my watch would be like, hey, you're watching TV
Starting point is 00:14:56 and your heart rate just hit 120 beats per minute. Yeah, what the fuck is up with that? That's not normal. It's all right, I'm fine I guess. That's scary a little bit. Nah, it's okay, cause I've been to the doctor and they checked my, like, did a bunch of heart rate stuff. Did they make you run on treadmill and shit?
Starting point is 00:15:10 No, I haven't done a stress test, but I also work out three days a week. Yeah, you should stress test it. Have you had your APB looked down and all that shit? Oh yeah, we forgot about the APB. I didn't put anything out on my drug test. I'll have to put an APB out later. But that's fucking, that's cool. It's really one of my favorite devices that I didn't know that I needed.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Are you going to then, you think, kind of roll a little bit in past January then? Yeah. Just kind of like adjust your relationship? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think this is like the new normal. Yeah, I think I need to. Dude, that's great. And I think what it is, is it's going to be about having those special moments with friends.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And it can be once a week, you know? And it's like, we go out and have a couple drinks. But just knowing like, hey, maybe two's enough and maybe I have a couple glasses of water between me if I'm going to have that third. And just like getting really tactical about that shit, you know? That's the thing is I always have these ideas. It's a little bit like, you know, what is it the the Plans what's the battle plans quote like oh, it's a don't let good be the enemy of
Starting point is 00:16:13 Perfection don't let perfection be the enemy of the good Yes, yeah, that's good. No, that's that wasn't at all what I was thinking, but we'll take it No, but the whole thing is for me. It's always like I'm like, okay I'm gonna do, I'll do two glasses, right, of wine. So then I go to dinner and I'm having a glass of wine and I'm like, oh, this is great. And then I'm like, oh, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:32 I'll have my two glasses. And then I get home and it's like, first off, I'm old. Heather and I eat like old people. Like we eat at like 530. Oh yeah, I do too. Everybody does that. Not everybody. I like eating, well, I mean, I have kids and shit that 530. Oh yeah, I do that. Everybody does that. Not everybody. I like it.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Well, I have kids and shit. They eat early, so yeah. But so, but it's crazy because I'll go and then I get home and it's like 730 and I'm not gonna, we're not going to bed until 11. We're starting to watch our stories. I want to have more wine, you know what I mean? So that's the problem is that it's really
Starting point is 00:17:03 untenable for me to be like, I'm going to just have a couple of glasses of wine because by the time it's like evening and then God forbid I do Jack because I just, that's a whole other thing. You know what it is though? It's like for me, if I can say, cause you're right, it's that 5.30 time that rolls around where you're like, okay, now is when I'm so, it's like the, the patholovium dog situation where like, you know, you start to make the dog food and theium dog situation where like you know you start to make the dog food and the dog salivates you know just the sound of it
Starting point is 00:17:28 right yeah it's like it's like the hour hits and you're like you're salivating and they're oh this is my de-stress moment yeah if you can get through that dinner and then say hey now I'm allowed to have that glass of wine with the show interesting that's a fun little strategy to just punt it yeah and then you have your two glasses, you watch your show, you've had a great time, you've de-stressed, you've relaxed a little bit, then you're done.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Yeah, that actually is a really smart thing because I have not been, it has not been hard going out to dinner and just having, you know, sparkling water or whatever. It's like, it has not been a real hard shit tour. The thing that's interesting, and I do wanna talk about all the crazy shit that's been going on in your life, buddy,
Starting point is 00:18:10 but I will say one of the New Year's resolution, we're getting our kitchen redone. And so like I said, we're sequestered, but also we have no ability to cook food. So we're only really either going out to eat or ordering in. Yeah. And we- It makes it tough. That's the world or ordering in. Yeah. And we- It makes it tough.
Starting point is 00:18:26 That's the world I'm in right now. Every single night, cause I'm living in a hotel right now. Yeah, so it's like what else can I do? Going out to eat and eating in, yeah. So one of the things that Heather and I have sort of said, our new year's resolution is gonna be no takeout or delivery.
Starting point is 00:18:42 For? 2025. The whole year? Yep. Dude, you don't fucking wait you're doing that. 100% dude, because we have a new kitchen. Let's put some money on that. I'm in because we have a new kitchen, right?
Starting point is 00:18:52 And so the whole thing is we're either going out to eat or we're cooking. Have you seen Polly Market? Do you know about that? Polly wanna market? No, Polly Market. It's like a predictions market. So the All In Podcast is doing, who we love, good folks. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:08 They are doing, when they talk about a prediction, they launch it on Polymarket and they get people to bet and take one side or the other, different things. Amazing. Yeah, we gotta do this, we gotta do this. Well, first off, yes, I'm in. Secondly, that'll make me, do I get a cut if I succeed? Or is it just Polymarket?
Starting point is 00:19:29 It's just people can bet on it. Well, so they have their own dedicated section here. I'll talk to Jason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Find out about it. Figure out how we can get involved in this. But then also, I will only do it if we can find one for you to do as well. What do you mean for me to do?
Starting point is 00:19:43 Like, I'm happy to put my, you happy to put my money where my mouth is, in Polymarket, but I wanna know, you gotta pick something that you're gonna do in 2025. Oh no, I'm just saying like anytime we come up with something, remember like seven years ago, you were like, I'm like, there's gonna come up with the Apple TV and physical TV, and you're like, no fucking way.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Oh right. You could have put that on Polymarket. And made a lot of money. And then have them like, yeah, exactly, exactly. Cause I won that, still winning. Still winning. Okay, so my crazy news. Yes, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:20:12 So, this is insane. Oh god, okay, so I was at a top secret meeting that will be announced more at our live event. Live Dignation is still happening people. Yep, baby, I almost called everybody happening, people. Yeah, baby. I almost called everybody bitches, but in a good way. Listen, come on, bitches. You can say that now. Get your ticket.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Everything's loud. Everything's loud. Nothing's on the table anymore. So this is the deal. We're like 87% sold out or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the VIP is sold out, but we do have some I mean that I would argue in some way the non-vip tickets are even better because you're like closer to the stage
Starting point is 00:20:50 It has its own bar. It has bathrooms. It's everything's really nice This whole soup to nuts of the event is going to be awesome and we're not going anywhere. That is what we're going to be doing We're not going no no no It's not like we're going to do the show and fuck off to like some oh my No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 8th, 7 to 11 p.m. Boom. Doors open at 6 o'clock. It's 18 plus. You don't have to, you know, buy a drink or whatever, but the tickets come with a free drink. It can be non-alcoholic or alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I will actually be consuming alcohol during that show. I will as well. And it's gonna be awesome. We have Mix Master Mike, the Beastie Boys DJ, is confirmed. He's gonna be playing a set after Dignation Tim Ferriss is gonna be up there on stage Chris Sokka who is a you know, insane I'm gonna be there by the way. That was a great post that you did. Oh with this shirt. Yeah
Starting point is 00:21:57 People know him from Shark Tank. He's an old homie. He's awesome, dude. He's gonna be there I've got a couple other surprise guests are gonna come on stage He's awesome, dude. He's gonna be there. I've got a couple other surprise guests that are gonna come on stage. Just some people that it's gonna be fun to hang out with. Like you guys are gonna have, because this isn't about just like, oh, look at that crazy celebrity person on stage. They're gonna be wandering around saying hi to folks.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Not that we need to see celebrities, but they're more celebrities like tech celebrity fun people that are coming out. So it's gonna be chill. It's gonna be fun, and we're gonna have a blast. We're gonna be throwing out some swag bags to people in the audience. We've got some pretty big announcements
Starting point is 00:22:32 that are related to stuff. So you were in a secret meeting, not to bring it back to the story. I was in a secret meeting in Santa Monica. Okay, so anyway, get your tickets, go to Dignation.show, at the top header, just lock them in, and then if it says sold out by the time you get this,
Starting point is 00:22:51 one of the things that I talked to Maggie, who's running the event, she says, listen, there's a little bit of extra capacity we could open up another 100 tickets, but I didn't want to because I was like, you know what, let's not make this a sardine fest, let's make it so you have a little bit of room for everybody.
Starting point is 00:23:06 You know, like the bathroom line's not like 30 people long through all that. Like we want to like this to be a fun experience. Less is more in some sense, but at the same time, some people are gonna be peeling off at different times or different events. It's South By, it's crazy. We'll have a line also for free people if you wanna,
Starting point is 00:23:21 like if you missed out, but I mean, tickets are under 20 bucks. But if you missed out and you're like hey I want to get in still I'm coming a little bit late love it but I just want to catch you know Tim or Mixmaster yeah I want to come halfway through Dignation because I couldn't make it or whatever don't feel like you can you just come show up stand in line and we'll get you in as people circle out so love it it's gonna be fun what's that get your rooms rooms now. Oh, on the
Starting point is 00:23:46 Eventbrite page, which is linked to on that website I said, which will be in the show notes, we have several hotel options. So for people who are saying like, Hey, it might be too expensive for me. Here's a cool thing. Obviously, Southwest tickets to get out there is dirt cheap still. Yeah. There were their rooms going from $500 plus, which is like super nice fancy shit, down to we found and we booked in some book like group rates. And Maggie's really good at this where she gets hotels that are like 250 bucks a night and she'd get them down. It will say, Hey, we'll commit-
Starting point is 00:24:17 Does that say 179 a night? 139 a night for this one here. Holy shit. Which is only six miles from the venue, which is, and she's only picking cute little batiki hotels. So it's probably just awesome. I gotta meet her. But it's not like you're staying in like the like best, best, best, Western or whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:30 You know? Although one is the holiday in the airport. But hey man, you'll be there. Hey, you're gonna do it. You're gonna do it. Hey, you're gonna do it. Hey, hey, hey. It's like a nice, it's like spinning machines outside.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Maybe it's cute. It's gonna be cute. So it's gonna be fun though, you guys. Just come out, hang with us. My folks will be there. Have a drink with us. Yeah, my kids will be there. Your kids are gonna be there?
Starting point is 00:24:51 They are. They're gonna see me first time on stage. They're gonna be at the show? Yeah, dude. Freaking seven and five. Oh boy. And they'll have little ear things in. I mean, they may not stay for the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Well, I'll have a nanny there. Yeah. Are the ear things, do they have like chat GPT filtering out any profanity? We cuss around our kids. Oh yeah, bring it on. We say grownup words. Like Nova said something the other day.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Like she said something that was like a shit show or something. There was something where it was like, you know, they just don't know what is a cuss word. Got it. And then I was like, first of all, that's the worst kind of show. And second, you shouldn't say that word. But like, you know, like there's certain things and then they're like, oh, I got it. That's grownup first of all that's the worst kind of show and second he shouldn't say that word like you know like there's certain things and
Starting point is 00:25:27 then like oh I got it that's grown up yeah yeah yeah and so like that's how we handle it cuz like come on hear a lot of grown-up world she's gonna go back to the back the back catalog of Dignation daddy what's railing someone? good lord just don't don't even think about it. La la la la la. Yeah, so.
Starting point is 00:25:47 The back catalog is nothing. Back catalog means nothing. Yeah. Although I had some fun. Okay. Okay, what happened? Yes. I'm driving back from that secret,
Starting point is 00:25:56 super secret meeting. I see all this smoke, like coming from a general part of where I live. Yes. And I'm like, okay, that's not good. And all these cars are pulling over and taking photos because it's kind of overlooking that area. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Because LA hilly like that. Yep. And I'm like, okay, well I'm not gonna go down there and I'm just gonna pull over for a second. I look and I was like, oh shit, that's like, I don't know, maybe like a mile away from where I live up in the hills. I saw some helicopters coming and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:26:23 okay, well maybe let's dump some water on and we'll be done, you know? And then I looked up and I saw some in the hills, I saw some helicopters coming, and I'm like, okay, well, maybe let's dump some water and we'll be done, you know? And then I looked up and I saw some of the palm trees that were just like, ooh, because the wind. Windy, like crazy. And I'm like, oh, fuck. And so I called Daria and I'm like, do you know what's going on?
Starting point is 00:26:36 And she's like, no, I'm just chilling downstairs at the house. I'm like, go on the roof and see what you can see. And she's like, oh my God, like this is massive. And so I'm like, okay, I'm heading to grab the kids because the kids at school was near. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I just like fly as fast as I can.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I get up there, grab the kids, they're already starting to evacuate kids, throw the kids in the car. And I didn't wanna go back to the house because I thought to myself, like, I just, I had the kids in the car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I had the SUV, and no offense to my wife,
Starting point is 00:27:07 she's been in a car accident, like three times the last six months. And she, I love it a piece, but. Things were safe. Let's just say. I just say that driving, it's like, she had the kids, and there was like a yard to go over. Ah. I'm gonna go over the yard. Yeah. And like bust yard to go over. I'm going to go over the yard.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And like bust through and like da-doom, da-doom, you know? And she'd be like, shall I make a right? And I'm like, that's not the- If you had gone home, she would have taken the kids and then you would have taken the stuff? She should have taken the kids and just headed out. And then I should have, she had toaster in the car, and I should have gone back to the house and got you it.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And got you it, yeah, yeah. But we didn't. And then we went to a hotel just like literally like two miles away and we're like, oh, I'll just grab a room because this will probably be over in like six hours. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we'll just like go back to our house.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it was like clear like a few, like even like an hour later, I was like, ooh, this bitch is spreading. And then weird stuff started happening because I had the Ubiquiti cameras. And I started seeing just ash. And I'm like, oh shit, that's not good. Ash is coming.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And then my indoor house air purification little guys, I had these little Miele air purifiers, which are pretty awesome. They're not that expensive. They're actually really cheap compared to a lot of the competitors out there. And they spiked like indoor air quality, like boom, like through the roof. And then Wi-Fi and power went out, right? I'm like, okay, shit.
Starting point is 00:28:43 All right. Well, what do we have there? And Dario grabbed a few things. I had this little tiny micro safe and I was like, grabbed some stuff there. She didn't think we were gonna like, so she just grabbed a handful of things. Basically like- Yeah, she had said on the phone
Starting point is 00:28:53 that she didn't even take her purse. No, she didn't take her purse. She lost her ID. It's crazy. She lost her wedding ring. And then a couple days go by and we still don't know because they're like, oh, the fires are spread all over that. I was watching the map the whole time.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Yeah. And I was like, I kept going like two blocks away. I was like, that's fucking Kevin's house. Yeah. Well, they had the red line like right next to my house, like two blocks away. Yeah. And then I was like for a long time, for a long time, because they didn't update it for like hours. He's good away from it. And then I was like, for a long time. For a long time, because they didn't update it for like two hours. And I was like, he's good, he might be good. And then there was like, update, it was like red. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I'm like, oh Jesus. You know, and so, you know, it's, I, still Glenn, it can't be Glenn who gets me, I was like, which friend of mine is going to be the craziest? And I'm like, ah, Glenn. And so I called Glenn up and I'm like, dude, do you want to do like a Rambo mission with me? is gonna be the craziest. And I'm like, ah, Glenn. And so I called Glenn up and I'm like, dude, do you wanna do like a Rambo mission with me
Starting point is 00:29:48 and like, you know, break some laws and like find out if my house is still there? Yeah, yeah. And he's like, yeah, of course I'm gonna do that. Sure. Yeah, he goes, oh, you told me later he's on some shit. Oh, he's like, I'm sorry I didn't show up yesterday. I was like microdosing.
Starting point is 00:30:03 I'm like, I didn't even notice. Like it was typical Glenn, you know? Yeah, yeah. But like we basically like knocked on doors and nobody would answer. So we were like, okay, well they're abandoned. So we're gonna cut through their backyard and hop fences. Cause there were all of these perimeter checks.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this was after the fire had kind of gone through like called like three days later. And, but there was still smoking embers everywhere. And I have some footage I haven't sent out, and I was sending it to you, so you can throw some stuff in there, because it was kind of nuts.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And so Glenn and I get pretty close, but we're still like two miles away, and he brought his drone with him. And I'm like, okay, we don't want to fly drones high enough to interfere with any of the aircraft and shit, but they weren't really dumping water there, because it was already kind of passed through. But they put this block so no drones could fly.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Oh, interesting. So they can shut down DJI. Oh, that's smart. And he couldn't get it. And he had a hack to get around it because there's like firmware shit you can do to get around those things. But he had to get cell service to enable the hack
Starting point is 00:31:02 and we didn't have cell phone service because the cell phone towers were burnt up around there. So anyway, long story short, we ended up climbing through this back forest area and we were like pulling on road vines because it's kind of up on a hill. So I'm like climbing the side of this thing and like I had to be like,
Starting point is 00:31:16 dude, don't step on that ember there, it's smoking. And we were like going through and eventually we popped up over the side and I swear to you it was like an A-bomb had gone off. Like it was like just flat. And swear to you it was like an A-bomb had gone off. It was like just flat. And then all there was was like chimneys. And I'm like, okay, shit, well.
Starting point is 00:31:31 You're like, mine's in there somewhere. Well, my house was like only three years old so I was like, okay, well, maybe because of, cause I know that like when I bought it from the builder, they're like, well, the cool thing about this house is like it has these things where when like the air intake ducts have this special material now in new modern homes they put out embers yeah exactly and so it would put out embers and so I was like well maybe
Starting point is 00:31:56 there's a chance because like one in like 30 homes up there were like kind of standing yeah and so I couldn't find the house at first because all of the streets were just like flat So you don't have street signs and I'm like which Street was it's like kind of hard It's very disorienting to know where you live. Yeah when no landmines are there see any yeah, you recognize And so eventually I was like, oh, I'm one block over and then I saw my wall Which was look perfect and I was like okay cool and I walked up to the gate and I opened up the gate and it was just a crater. Yeah dude I saw the video on Instagram it was bonkers. Oh dude I can't even tell you I mean obviously I didn't record the moment when I walked up to it
Starting point is 00:32:35 because the thing that hit me more than anything else that was the toughest was mostly nothing about the stuff that you think people that have money matters. Don't get me wrong, there was some good Harlan Estate up there that was like, there was some good wine in that cellar. I thought about that. It's like, me as the wine connoisseur was like, the wine. Exactly. You're like, I could have gotten a good cup. So much drinking.
Starting point is 00:33:08 But it was like, honestly, the things that hit me most were the first Father's Day cards that my kids have given me. They wrote their names all messed up and stuff. My dad since passed away, as you know. There was a jewelry box that he had made me when I was younger just to hold some of my stuff. And there was a kid's little desk that I had handed down to my kids that he made from scratch, just really cool kind of folding and morphing desk because he was a woodworker.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And he loved doing that stuff. And then you remember those things every few days of stuff that you were like, oh shit. The other day I was like, oh, I would have been aging, and this sounds silly, but I had been aging a Pu'er tea collection and coffee collection for 15 years now. And this was tea that Tim and I gathered in the Yunnan province of China together
Starting point is 00:33:57 where we took a bus for several days to get out there and then hand picked it. And know? And it's like as it ages it gets better. And it's like, you know, that's not expensive stuff, but it's stuff that means something to you, you know? And so it was nothing about the laptops or the, you know, all the other stuff. Actually, that felt very freeing in a way. I was like, it's funny because like I literally bought this shirt at Target and it was like, I was like, it's funny because like I literally bought this shirt at Target and it was like, I realized like, I don't need any of this stuff. None of this, the expensive stuff makes you happy. It's like the little things like just the, I had made a cross stitch
Starting point is 00:34:41 duck for my dad when I was like eight and I always meant to put it in his casket. And at one point I was like, cause he loved it, you know? And at one point I was like, I'm gonna bring this back to his tombstone and like leave it there at some point. And like that went up in flames, you know? And there's all those little things we were just like,
Starting point is 00:35:00 oh, those were so meaningful to me. In the garage, we had some letters from the 1800s that had been written to my great grandma that were just like very historic. We had one family book that was like, had gone back, talked about family origins, where some of my family had come from, from like, you know, Germany and England,
Starting point is 00:35:19 and like, you know, some of those kinds of things that were pretty interesting to like, I would have loved to have like, eventually dumped that into Chachi Petit and learn a lot more about my lineage and, and that all that stuff is just gone. And so there's like a, a very like great forcing function around the lesson of it and permanence on everything. Yeah. You know, and that's very aligned with like Buddhist philosophies and a lot of the Zen meditation that I subscribe to. And I was able, thankfully, in some weird way,
Starting point is 00:35:52 to feel both sad by the loss of these very important sentimental things, but also very light on my feet, and that I didn't have the, I don't need this luxury, I went too far. Interesting. You know, and you know me, I'm not driving Lambos and shit, I had a Tesla and a freaking BMW standard family SUV,
Starting point is 00:36:17 but like, I did go too far, like I just bought a lot of shit that is just like, unnecessary now. So when I'm thinking about rebuilding my life, I'm very much going back to like, how can I get back to the essentials and not just like, take it to that degree that I did before. That's so, yeah, it's really interesting
Starting point is 00:36:41 because you don't think, it's like death by a thousand paper cuts, right? Oh my god, it's a there's a mental burden on all these little tiny micro things that you go and you don't even know it. You write you wouldn't even know it because they're so minute that none no specific one is sort of a burden enough for you to even recognize it exists. But yeah, total. It can become a weird thing where you're like,
Starting point is 00:37:05 what is this feeling that I have about shit? I had this lens, this camera lens for a Leica camera, which all my Leica cameras went up, which was only like three of them, but I mean, that's still a lot of Leica cameras, but I had this one lens that I bought for $1,000 in Japan 15 years ago, whatever, and now it became really sought after,
Starting point is 00:37:24 because it's all vintage, like this bad ass, like super good bokeh, like just a really cool classic look. And it went up to four grand, cause they only made a hundred of them. And on eBay it was like four grand. I was like, oh, I gotta sell this shit, you know? So I took like photos of it and like blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And I listed it and then some scammer like won it and then never paid me. And I'm like, hey, fuck you. And then I relisted it and something similar kinda happened. The guy was like, whoa, can you take three after you bought it? I'm like, fuck this dick. It's so hard to sell anything, you know?
Starting point is 00:37:52 And I was like, oh god. But it's a thousand little things where you're like, now that I have so much shit, if I even wanted to downsize, that's like a year long process to get rid of all that shit. You're literally trying to get rid of one piece of one lie and they were like no keep it but I really don't want it. I know but it's like but then this the second thing they hit me which was really bizarre was not bizarre but just like like it
Starting point is 00:38:19 meant something which was when this was all happening I realized I didn't have a laptop and also then a few hours later another part of LA caught on fire yeah oh yeah you know and in that neighborhood was a lot less affluent yeah that's the Alta Dina fire yeah and they didn't have a whole lot of money or the Eaton fire yeah the Eaton fire and I was watching the TV of those people and I was just like I Literally walked into an Apple store the same day my house burned down and I bought a new air Yeah, and I was like how fucking lucky am I? Yeah to be able to do that and I'm watching people on the TV that don't even know where they're gonna sleep that night
Starting point is 00:38:59 We have friends that have set up like go funds go fund me's and stuff like that and we're sending them stuff like we're because we're redoing our kitchen, we got rid of a bunch of shit because like you, how much shit did you put in the back of the cabinet over your fridge 15, 20 years ago that you haven't fucking seen? And then when you pull everything out, you're like, what the fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:39:20 Like what even is this? So we're donating a bunch of the stuff that we are getting rid of. Yes, that's a good- And even stuff that we wouldn't have gotten rid of, but we're like, dude, somebody else can take this. Because it's totally true. Like, you're in a very fortunate situation
Starting point is 00:39:35 where you can replace most of the things that are just replaceable with cash. Yes. But it's the stuff that's not replaceable that is gonna be the stuff that really... Did you have a thing where periodically stuff would pop up? Because it happened to me. Oh, all the time.
Starting point is 00:39:51 For you. There were times when I'd just be sitting there and be like, oh fuck! I was thinking of the Bruce Lee... The Bruce Lee business card. Yeah, I mean I had a lot of those... It just hit me where I was like, fuck his... Because this is a fancy one, one white, one black. Here's the worst. Yeah. X-Men number one, burnt. Oh my god, I was just, fuck his, because this is a fancy, this Bruce Lee, one white, one black. Here's the worst.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Yeah. X-Men number one, burned. Oh my God, I was just thinking about that too. Michael Jordan rookie card, burned. You showed me after this. The original Spider-Man first appearance of him burned. All my first X-Men, or my first Wolverines burned. I just had those in a drawer.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And I was just like, you know what I mean, don't get me wrong, this was like a CGC 1.7 on there as I don't know it was $3,000 yeah it was just like gone but like at the same time dude back to that that the people across the the outside LA it's like fuck all of that yeah yeah it's just money and it's like and I know that sounds like a very luxurious thing to say but like honestly If my kids are okay, yeah, and and we had a bunch of people sending us stuff in the mail
Starting point is 00:40:52 Thank you, Sarah. You know who you are. She hooked us up with a bunch of like She she had a bunch of stuff that she wasn't using anymore And she sent to us like furniture wise and a bunch of other stuff that she was just gonna sell anyway. Oh great. And some of it didn't fit into our temporary thing that we're gonna get into and cause it's small and she was like, hey, just donate it to anybody in the area.
Starting point is 00:41:18 And we've already donated some of that stuff that didn't make it into our stuff. And so I've been taking and re donating a bunch of that stuff but like, I don't know, man, it's like, it reboots your whole thinking on what's important. That's so interesting. It's crazy. Yeah, I mean, look, at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:41:35 it also should act as a warning to anybody that's in an area that could even potentially, because Pile Stage was not something on my list of fire danger, you know what I mean? Even in Los Angeles, even though it has happened in the past, in the 70s, there's a big Malibu fire that wiped out almost all the PCH, but it really does go to show,
Starting point is 00:41:55 you should have a thought of what it is you want to take. Those things that are gonna be the things that are gonna be important. So I've got three takeaways that I think are pretty interesting. One is don't count on fireproof states at your house, especially those cheap ones because ours melted and lost everything inside that fireproof safe. Which was funny when you told me that because we have a fireproof state.
Starting point is 00:42:16 And I was like going to walk away and be like, safe's fine. It was like, that's not what they're for. No, they can stay on like an hour, but if it's like intense like that, they just won't. The second thing is like obviously take pictures of all the important stuff like your kids stuff, things like that. Then I was locked out of Coinbase and they're asking for hardware keys, which I didn't have. And so what I did is I found this, which is actually kind of interesting. Your old wallet?
Starting point is 00:42:41 My old wallet. This is a Fido 2 key that can be used for any two factor auth. So you know how you have hardware keys that you touch with your finger like on the side? I have those too, but this one here in particular is an NFC based one. So if you got a new phone, so don't think of it as like plugging into the side of your computer. But what you do is like say, okay, I'm on, like I just did this this morning, I'm on Apple, I have the two factor security keys up on Apple, because I'm super paranoid.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And I turn it on and of course I have my little USB-C hardware keys that stick in my thing, but if I ever lost those again, it's boom and I'm off then. And this sits in my wallet right and even if I lose my wallet no one's gonna know my password or any of the other stuff so I don't have to get in. But it's just like an extra thing to have that you all most likely have on your person if you're just running out of the house. Yeah wow. So if you have hardware
Starting point is 00:43:37 keys something like this I think I just got this on Amazon it's called Cryptnox Fido key. And I think it's like 50 bucks or whatever. But it's just like a good thing to have if you do hardware based keys. That was a good one. And then there was one more one that was really interesting. Let's see, I got the picture of the stuff,
Starting point is 00:43:56 the hardware keys. Yeah, I think those are the, well, the other insurance policy stuff's a whole nother thing. That's a shit show. Dude, we talked about on the fucking show that you went like a week without fucking house insurance for that house.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Yeah, then we finally got, I got upgraded to a better plan, thankfully. But here's the other thing, dude. All my crypto keys are in a safety deposit box. And it was next to my house. Oh no. And so, but they were punched into like steel and shit. I saw them being able to get back into them,
Starting point is 00:44:27 but I heard the bank didn't burn down, so it's fine. But what's interesting is in times like that, you almost want your keys at least 50 miles away, not near your home. No, we talk, I mean, honestly, they talk about the redundancy when it comes to things like that It's like second location, but second location doesn't mean your neighbor's house Right, I mean right like second location is far off away that a natural disaster can't affect both places. Exactly. Exactly
Starting point is 00:44:58 So that was one thing or I was like, oh interesting like I should I have to rethink that it just makes you rethink Oh, and then the other thing too is I was like, okay, well, what if I had not had a way to get back into my iPhone? Like, have I left my iPhone or something? And then I had those two factor keys set up. And so I'm like, okay, well, what about photo backup? Because that's the most important thing
Starting point is 00:45:18 is those family photos and stuff you've taken. And so I basically put on Google Advanced Protection on a new Gmail account that's hidden, not used for normal email. And then say Google photos, go ahead and back up all of my iPhone photos. Just to have the kid photos redundancy. And this makes you think about redundancy
Starting point is 00:45:35 in completely different ways. But anyway, it's been nuts. It's been nuts. Fucking hell. Well, I'm glad you guys are okay. Yeah, we're good. I'm sorry that all that stuff went up in smoke All right. It also sounds like your heads on in a good place
Starting point is 00:45:48 I sent you a picture of my kitchen because it was like where we're gonna shoot Dignation your house and I was like Well, and I said the picture of my wall missing and you literally Kevin It was like two weeks after your house went up and you're like looks like my house. It's like too soon Well, here's the deal man,. It's like, it's someone that grew up, I guess it really depends on what your expectations and comfort is for like, just life in general. Like, when I was 14-ish, my dad had to go through bankruptcy. We lost one of our cars. You know, we didn't really, you know, when I was younger than that,
Starting point is 00:46:29 and he was having a hard time finding work, you know, we had our Thanksgiving dinner delivered by the church one year. And like when you have that as your starting point, and everything has been gravy ever since, you know? And so like for me, I'm just like, like I can sleep on this couch tonight and be totally chill. Yeah, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:46:50 You know what I mean? Yeah, totally. I mean, as long as I have my fucking Apple. It's like, I need some. I got my brand new Apple iPad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A couple things, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Just a couple things. Look, we're not assholes. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a little bit of a lazy iPhone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a creature comfort. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just the necessities. Yeah. But you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:47:10 It's like, that is a... I think that's a... If you just come back to that, you're in a pretty good place. My wife... Different? How's she doing? She had some handbags she liked, you know? But... Well, you can buy the handbag.
Starting point is 00:47:27 She's getting there. They never give you the replacement cost for all the stuff on the insurance stuff and all that. Oh, dude, I can't even... I don't even want to know how that... It's me in spreadsheets going through and being like, okay, that was a Christmas gift that got burned. Boom, sent over.
Starting point is 00:47:41 And it's just like a lot of piecemeal kind of stuff. And they want proof of a lot of that stuff. Yeah, so one of the things that they had said, so we had friends that were evacuated from the Eaton fire in Altadena, and they actually came and stayed with us on Wednesday through Saturday. And their house is fine, thankfully.
Starting point is 00:48:01 That's good. But they were going through real tough. When the fire's out, you don't think it's gonna come away at this point. Well, I mean, fuck, I don't know when the next one's gonna pop. There was one that just fucking popped in. Oh, I saw that.
Starting point is 00:48:10 She's like, yeah, good point. By a fucking, yeah, by a fucking Magic Mountain. Anyway, but one of the things that they had said on the news was they were like, when you're going to leave your house, just take a video of every room. Just walk in and take a video of every room. I did that.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I'll do just a step more on it. Put it in slow motion so it does a high frame rate. Oh, interesting. Because as you're going through there's a lot of blur. High frame rate and just go wide angle and just walk through everything. Yeah, because you can basically just go, here is me leaving, here's that piece of art, guarantee it was in the house. This is me walking out the door. Here's that couch, here is me leaving. Here's that piece of art. Guarantee it was in the house. But this is me walking out the door.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Here's that couch, here's that whatever. Open all the cabinets. Open all the drawers, all the cabinets, all the closets. Because it'll only take you 20, 30 minutes to walk through your house and just open everything. You know what? My dad used to do that with camera photos back in the day. And then he would know what camera
Starting point is 00:49:03 stash of photos to take with him Hmm, but like if you think about it, you could just walk around your house and do that reminder once a quarter Yeah, just to go and do that even once a year or whatever. Why not? Yeah, exactly Well, you as funny as um, I I had all my new podcasts gear kind of like positioned outside of the podcast room. And I had taken a picture because Reid Hoffman was the last guest. And thankfully we got that footage off of the cameras
Starting point is 00:49:33 and out Gabby took it with her. So we'll release one more episode from that house soon. But like in the photo Reid and I took together, you can see all the gear in the rack mount behind it. I'm like, fuck yeah. It's like another thing to submit is like proof that I actually had it. God. But yeah, it's insane, dude.
Starting point is 00:49:52 And my heart goes out to all those that were impacted by this because I know it's not lost on me for sure that like, you know, just the fact that we could get a hotel room that night and just not worry about it. Honestly. Like it's a huge, huge gift. But the toaster is stoked. Fucking, dude, no, he's stoked because the kids are now eating from this little tiny
Starting point is 00:50:12 table on the ground. Amazing. He's already stolen so much fucking eggs and pancakes and shit, dude. The toaster's like, this is fucking great, man. That house is so big, I barely wanted to go downstairs. This is fucking rad. This is your 14-year-old toaster. He's lost all sense of what's, he's like, I'm wanted to go downstairs. Like, this is fucking rad. Mr. 14-year-old tells us he's lost all sense of like, what's...
Starting point is 00:50:27 He's like, I'm just gonna steal shit from here. Yeah, yeah. He's in looting mode. He's in looting mode. He's like, I gotta get as much as I can while I'm here, bitches. Yeah, exactly. Oh my god. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Well, congratulations for being here and making it through. I do. I'm glad to be here. Yeah, it's been a while. Obviously, sorry that it took us a while to get this most recent episode up, for reasons. Yes. As it were. But let's get into the show, Valor.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Let's do it. You've done a full show. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, we've done a full show. Yeah. Episode 10. Episode 10, here we go. So this was, you know, obviously in January CES huge.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Which of course we would have been talking about all this crazy CES stuff. I know. And we have a couple things to talk about CES. I think a couple things worth mentioning, you know, CES wise, one for me, I'm always looking at the stuff and I'm like, okay, new doorknobs shit that can unlock doors and like there's always that
Starting point is 00:51:22 bigger TV, you know, it's like. I fucking always want a bigger TV. Yeah, I know. But then it's like, most of the stuff is like that, oh, deeper color blacks. And I'm like, okay. Deeper color blacks. That's what they do.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Pretty soon you're like, I can't even see those blacks. Exactly. So basically. Don't clip that. Keep going. Exactly. Keep going. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:51:41 So basically the one thing where I was like, this is fucking cool, was the new Lenovo laptops that expand out and go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrr one of the coolest things. I've never wanted to like move away from a MacBook till I saw this. So it like, it grows. Dude, that is amazing. It's like a laptop that can like get excited. First off, so it, is it rolled up? So it's rolled up inside,
Starting point is 00:52:18 and then why is that guy putting his hand out? Oh, it's moving his hand. Oh, he is, he's going like this. Now he's moving it up with his hand I Mean that was I mean you can just hit a button to go up Why do you have to hold your hand get a scan because you can't cuz you can't cuz windows windows stuff They always add those look at that's Dude, it's just keeps going. It's like Willy Wonka up the half his face. I mean don't don't use your hand again, dude
Starting point is 00:52:44 Yeah, please. I mean, don't use your hand again, dude. He's like praying to it. It is time. He's like, open, open that shit. So actually the first obvious feature is we have this flexible panel. That is the first obvious feature. Yeah, it's giant. Well first off, it's hysterical because it's like twice the size and I can just imagine accidentally just closing it and this fucking lift is hanging out over here.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Exactly. You may have noticed my laptop is quite large. This PC that I have here... Oh it's dusty in here. Nobody comes in here because nobody stays here. But anyway, it's so old. It's like, I mean it's really slow to even do Dignation, which is literally 4 tabs.
Starting point is 00:53:26 You click on the Apple thing, what do you got going on under the hood? This Mac, okay, Big Sur, you're on fucking Big Sur dude. Bro, I use it for this show, that's it. You're on Big Sur? Is that good? No, that's like OS like 10 years ago. OS 10 years ago 2.3. Oh, he's on Intel's Intel i5. Oh Jesus. He's on a Celeron and shit Celeron it's a Pentium. It's basically a Celeron
Starting point is 00:53:59 Well, anyway, it's this is this is done. It's time. Oh, I might you we're gonna sponsor soon Oh, maybe Lenovo will sponsor with the Well anyway, this is done. It's time to upgrade you. Well we're going to do sponsors soon. Oh, maybe Lenovo will sponsor with the... Dude, I want one of these. I would totally have one of those. I just burped and it was really disgusting. I apologize. Okay, just keep it that way.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so this is the first time where I've been like, dude, I might move to this computer because I need a little bit more real estate. So it's interesting because I noticed your previous computer, which is no longer with us. It is a piece. You did the tall monitor. Yes, that monitor is no longer with us as well. Rest in peace.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Because I do the wide monitor for gaming. And I also had one of those. God damn, we're going to be doing that a lot. Sorry, all those cool tech things. Can I get another shoot? It's not alcoholic. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I need to kill the pain with 0.1% He needs to get a buzz. Yeah, I might have to check 12 of these bitches. It's like going on I got some rubbing alcohol
Starting point is 00:54:58 Takes a hundred peroxide Tide pods Go oh Let's fucking go. Let's fucking go. Oh god, that would be amazing. Sponsored by Tide. Oh my god. Anyway. That would be really funny, like, if you just made
Starting point is 00:55:18 a fake Tide Pod for, like... Ravers? No, no, no, no. Just just like you made a fake Tide Pod candy That you that you give out on like Halloween Parrots are like someone gave it my kid a Tide Pod you're like fucking got you Yeah, it's there I mean someone probably look at the mixed up. This is the problem That's why the Tide Pod can't taste like the other one, but it's not about tasting is about trying
Starting point is 00:55:44 I don't know anyway. That was a bad idea. Yeah The Tide Pod can't taste like the other one. But it's not about tasting, it's about trying. I don't know. Anyway, that was a bad idea. Yeah, don't listen to these. Look at Kevin. I've already had a second to... Yeah, you've had too many non-alcoholic beers. I totally would...
Starting point is 00:55:55 Can I put this here? Is it okay? Oh yeah, it's on my couch. I totally would rock that laptop. So that was the question. What's the benefit of the tall screen? It's called screen real estate, which gives you more ability to browse and check email.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Browse and email more. Got it, I get that. Did you really ask that question? Well, because I never understood it, because I was like, I don't understand the tall. Oh, why this way versus this way? Yeah, because I have an ultra wide and it's great. So I did have that, you pointed out, you had a great point.
Starting point is 00:56:28 I had this external monitor that if you came to my house, it looks kind of weird because it is that aspect ratio of that taller screen. And for me, you can just get more of a web page on there. And so it's kind of like, it's, why do we need to go wide on screens if you really think about it? I think gaming is probably better like that. Yeah, because it's more of like, why do we need to go wide on screens if you really think about it? I think gaming is probably better like that. Yeah, because it's more of a peripheral vision. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:51 And so when you go taller, I was just dragging full windows and then like you just see a hundred emails. So rather than scrolling, you're just reading. Exactly, so I think work-wise, it is a better device browsing modality. Why are we getting smarter when we're not drunk? I'm using like words like modality. I don't know why that would happen, Kevin.
Starting point is 00:57:14 It's so funny. Do you guys have iPads? Do you use them as a second monitor? Yeah. I've done that. Not often, right? No, not often. Well, all my iPods are.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Too soon. Too soon. It's okay, but I did have that, yes. I had, I got an iPad Pro, like one of the biggie ones with the pen. Yeah. It's nice, but I just don't ever have an opportunity to, I think I just, I sit at my gaming PC. This is the problem with buying shit.
Starting point is 00:57:41 You have it then. Once you buy it, you have it. No, I know, but this is why I'm just like, I, it's funny. The natural reaction for me would be, oh, I had XYZ go replace those things. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. Because like- Interesting. You're like, if you weren't using it on a daily basis-
Starting point is 00:57:57 How many times did I use an iPad before? Like, twice a year. Yeah, me too. You know, and I'd get the OS up there, I'm like, oh, cool. And then I'm like, oh, maybe this something about a laptop, and it never is. And it never is. It's just not a fucking laptop. I know. But yours is.
Starting point is 00:58:09 And I got the keyboard attachment. I got the keyboard too. It's like, why am I here? And I'm like, and I move the little mouse, I'm like, look at how it locks to things. It's like whoop, you know what I'm like. Look, a pen. I can write. I hate writing.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I fucking hate writing. I know, and then I lose the pen too. Yeah. It's like, I don't want to write. That's why I have a computer. I know. My handwriting's horrible. I'm like a doctor. But you see what I'm saying dude. I love it. I'm in I want to see when this launches But I'll let you continue. I'll check on our expanding laptops. So thank you for checking on our expanding laptops
Starting point is 00:58:36 so also following on CES and for us gamers of the group Nvidia GeForce RTX 5090 review brutally fast, but DLSS 4 is the game changer. I saw the announcements for... first off, we knew that the the 5 series or the 50 series graphics cards were coming out from NVIDIA. I don't think anybody understood... NVIDIA has... First off, NVIDIA basically supplies 99% of all the AI chips on the planet. They are like Mr. and Mrs. AI. And they've sort of put a little bit of AI stuff into their graphics cards before. DLSS is ostensibly machine learning AI kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Accelerators. Yeah, where it basically kind of interpolates what, so rather than the graphic card actually generating the pixels or the nanites, I guess now, it ends up sort of interpolating what would be between the two frames. Oh, these are up scalers or what are these? Essentially they're like fancy machine learning upscalers.
Starting point is 00:59:47 So that's what DLSS has sort of been in the past. No, I don't think anybody was prepared for what they dropped at CES with the DLSS 4 because it is basically pure AI, what the fuck do they call it? Multi something. Multi-modal. No, it's a word. It is a word, it is a word. It's fucking, god damn, frame generation,
Starting point is 01:00:16 multi-frame generation. So basically what it's doing is in real time, it is both generating the pixels of the game through the game engine, the way that we, you know, traditional graphics cards use, you know, make the polys, do all the things, but it's also at the same time using these AI tensor cores to create generative AI in inner frames. So they're basically multiplying the frames between the frames that the graphics card is generating
Starting point is 01:00:52 to increase the frame rate by supplanting those frames with AI generated frames. So what does it look like? It's so fucking smooth. Oh. And it takes you from like 80 frames a second to like 270 frames a second. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Most of the people. The human eye can't even perceive that though. So this is the thing I don't understand in gaming because I think it's like 60 frames a second is the human eyes max. You can feel it. But you can feel it. Cinebuzz based on what we thought.
Starting point is 01:01:21 24 frames max. But then you see 120 frames and more and you're like, oh, this feels different. Yeah, and when you look, and by the way, 240 is sort of the standard for gaming right now, the 240 hertz. But the thing that's crazy about this whole thing, the 4090 is the creme de la creme right now that's out.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Two grand for the card. The 5070 is $500. $400. $400? Premium over the 4090. No, no, no, that's different. That's the 5090. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:56 The 5070, their low end 50 series card is like 595, I think, something like that. So it's like five to $600. Yeah. It is 30% more performative with DLSS4 than the 4090. When did the 4090 come out? Year and a half ago, two years ago. That makes perfect sense though.
Starting point is 01:02:18 That's kind of a leap. Dude, but the $500 one. Oh. The $500, their lowest one. The lowest end one. Oh, so in some sense, you just like, pretend like this didn't come out and just buy the $500 one. Oh. The $500, their lowest one. The lowest and one. Oh, so in some sense, you just like, pretend like this thing come out just by the $500 one. This is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:02:30 So what do you have? Well, I'm still at the 3080. Oh, so you could get the $500 one. That's what I'm saying. You could get the $500 one. But again, the thing is, that's the secret sauce of the DLSS-4, because what happens is,
Starting point is 01:02:43 the actual raw compute power versus the 4090 is like not, I mean it's they're just the 4090 is a beast. Right. But it's like think about it like you know a fucking a diesel engine right like it's just pure brute force it's giving you the pixels that you're asking for at the time you're asking. Oh dude, I'm excited because I like to also play around with AI stuff on my computer, run my own localized. But the 5090 is going to basically be the go-to card for AI locally because it's all it's got all the AI cores in there. Yeah, it's got like, I mean, it's crazy. And it's $1,500. So it's $500 less than the 4090. Oh, interesting. And
Starting point is 01:03:24 it's like blowing it out of the water. I mean, this is a good lineup for pretty much anybody. Like you got great price points here with a lot of performance at each level. The entry level gaming card right now in this new generation is going to be absurd. I mean, like it'll blow mine out of the water and I spent $1,600 on it.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Yeah, yeah. you know, three years ago when I was building my PC. So here's the deal. Before I approached this new Zen minimalist world... But you'll get to. I had committed to building a new PC this year. Yes, I remember. Because I wanted to have a proper gaming rig, and so I had already ordered some of the components I ordered the Ryzen
Starting point is 01:04:06 9800 X 3d. Yeah, it's like two days before my house burned down. I ordered it. I'm grandfathered in hey, you know what? So I have to do it. Yeah, but I got the case looks dope the case is I'm gonna show the video the case the case I honestly was looking at that really really. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so go with the wood It's good the case. I honestly was looking at that. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So go with the wood. Looks good. So anyway, I wanted to build a proper game because I haven't in so long. And also I told my oldest cell that she's getting into computers now where she's like, she just got her first keyboard. So she's like pretty stoked and I didn't get her the Apple one I got like cheap one
Starting point is 01:04:39 just something like if you want to type I'll get you the one like you know the built in one. And so she's like really excited about it. So I'm excited, I showed her the computer case and I'm like, it's empty, but we're gonna put a computer in here. So she's like, oh. By the way, they made it when I built mine, like I said, it was about three years ago.
Starting point is 01:04:56 It had been a while since I built a PC from scratch. They've really made it very easy. It's still technically, you know, the same stuff, like it still feels like it used to feel. Yeah. But it's less, you know, like, I remember those days when you would like find a, you know, a 12 K mouse driver or like a seven K mouse driver for your PC that you could then load and the game would load because there wasn't enough load RAM for the thing so you had to get smaller. That stuff is always just like so like it's just fucking we grew up at the perfect time honestly for technology because it really felt like we got the best of both worlds.
Starting point is 01:05:39 We got that world where you had to think about what it is that you wanted to do to entertain yourself. Right. Then now we're at the point where we have all the entertainment we could ever want at our fingertips. Like we're just really bridging the gap. Dude, the number one question my kids ask me is,
Starting point is 01:05:52 what do I do? Like when they don't have something to do, they're like, what do I do? My buddy was telling me the same fucking thing. Don't do anything. Like, yeah. Sit and think about your life, child. Yeah. What do I do? Do you get that a lot now? What do I do?
Starting point is 01:06:08 Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. He's got he's got flute and like he goes to instrument style, which is great. So there is a distraction that is not social media for him. Yeah. That is that that isn't like that is that that's such an interesting thing to to like, I don't remember as a kid ever trying to figure out what to do. No, because we just went in the backyard,
Starting point is 01:06:33 made dirt clods and threw them at people and shit. Yeah. You just went outside. Like that was the thing. What do I do? Go the fuck outside, figure it out. Yeah, I would just go outside and just like destroy anthills and shit.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Yeah, yeah. Put G.I. Jo outside. Yeah, figure it out. Yeah, I would just go outside and it's like they destroy Ant Hills and shit Yeah, yeah Yeah, Joe's. Yeah Being okay with being bored not not needing the constant input. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, that constant stimulation is something that although I've been playing Roblox with my kids. Oh, yeah, it's fun Do games are fun? They're like silly little games, but they're fun and they love it when dad's playing with them. Oh of course. Yeah everything is a cool thing.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Oh my god yeah. It's fun. It's crazy. Anyway so new graphics cards. Yeah. Very excited. You will have one in your new PC. I'm sure I'll be getting one soon.
Starting point is 01:07:16 I'm very excited. Okay moving on to new announcements around but not presented at CES. There is a new Chinese sex bot with integrated AI. Ah, so. So that is Japanese. Ah, so. I don't know what the Chinese... Good.
Starting point is 01:07:38 So the Chinese sex bot mega producer says his next generation AI bots are on the way. Future versions of the dolls will be able to perform housework. They could one day compete with Tesla's humanoid robots. Like a fight? In some sort of competition reality show or something? But these are from the ground up meant to be. Sexy.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Sexy bots. And so. So is this sort of like that company that makes, what is it, real dolls? They've been talking about putting AI in their dolls at some point. I mean, I know they're working on it, but not because I'm subscribed to any newsletters
Starting point is 01:08:22 that they submit, but I've been told that they're working on it by others. I don't know how this applies to that fetish, but this is more like integrating a lot of the, so the large, we talked about this before, where these LLMs that are having these conversations, if you take off the guardrails, they get really nasty really fast.
Starting point is 01:08:44 That's amazing. And so. Well also, if they're making their own LLM, they're choosing what the guardrails, they get really nasty really fast. That's amazing. And so... Well also, if they're making their own LLM, they're choosing what the guardrails are. Exactly. Those guardrails for the sex bot, I'm sure, are not as honed as the guardrails for like Claude. Dude, we will have to buy one of these and have it be guessed on the show.
Starting point is 01:09:00 No. Oh my god! That's what we have to do. We have to interview a Chinese sex bot. Like during live dignation or something? That would be fucking amazing. By the way, I already know what they're gonna say, because I've been there with them. No, you gotta do this.
Starting point is 01:09:15 By accident. So here, find the, because I remember, I looked at this article before, find the company name. I think it's like Sky something. Well, they're 88 pounds. Yeah, well. It's kind of perfect. I just thought. I love that's like Sky something. Well they're 88 pounds. Yeah, well. It's kind of perfect. I love that you have a decision. I meant for portability!
Starting point is 01:09:28 Go up! Oh there it is! I watched this because I was like, oh they're putting AI? Okay cool cool cool cool. And then this, I was like, this voice killed me. This is the moaning function. What? Just wait. Whoa. It looks really real So when you squeeze different areas They moan moan
Starting point is 01:10:06 But the English voice I was, just hire someone from the US. I know! The Me Love You Longtime voice is not exactly the one you want. And she goes back to English again. First of all, she's creepy as fuck. Well, I mean, he works at a Chinese sex doll factory. Is he holding the voice box? Yeah, he's holding the voice box. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Oh she, I thought she talked again. I will meet you for mommy. I was like, just hire an actress from the US. Hire a porn actress from the US. Just how great. Yeah you could go on Fiverr and get a great voice for about like 30 bucks. Hire an actress from the US. Hire a porn actress from the US. Just, but how? You could go on Fiverr and get a great voice for about like 30 bucks. The end of that video just said, serving mankind. That's how they ended the video.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Serving mankind. So yes, when this company has AI chat integration, we would love to have the first AI sex bot on our show, just to see how she feels about her new line of work. Good job, yeah. You know what, if it removes sex workers from the street and it makes it kind of like less STDs and things. I mean, honestly, there's a lot of upside. I mean, we talked about this
Starting point is 01:11:24 when we first were talking about it, which is like there are people who have a hard time making human connections with the opposite sex and I think there is a situation where things like this could be very therapeutic for certain people. You know what I mean? Let me ask you a question. Oh yeah, alright. 20 years from now, we're still alive, probably. God willing. And at that point, these bots will be walking in this room.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Yes. And just be like, what's up guys? Dignation time! And like have a seat and crack a beer. Okay, I mean like first off, you're wasting beer. That is not for you. Oh, probably for you, but like yeah. But it's like.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Yeah, opening it for me, I'd be like, oh, thank you. Exactly. But I'm just saying like, if it is that mobile and natural. Yeah. Where you're like, this is a human, would you buy one as just like a fun companion to hang with? I think there will be a time in which, yes, I would want to purchase not a sex bot, per se.
Starting point is 01:12:30 What if they had a sexy bot mode? I mean, I'm sure they would all come with that, just as standard operating procedure. It wouldn't be a jailbreak. It'd be like a... I mean, look, if I had... After hours... Look, well, first off, then it would be the conversation with my wife. That's what I'm going to get into.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Do we have hunky guy? You know, do we have the one from the front? Oh, fuck that. Just as likely that we would hire the guy from Outlander than we would, you know, the Chinese chick. Wait, who's the guy my wife likes at one dude? Jason Momoa? Wow, interesting.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Wait, is that the big buff dude? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The stallion that mounted the earth on... The stallion that mounted the earth. Oh yeah, from Game of Thrones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The stallion that mounted the earth on... The stallion that mounted the earth. Oh, yeah, the Game of Thrones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that him? Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah Yeah, okay, so if I'm laying in bed and he comes in He's like, you know you have to take your meds before you sleep, right? Yes, Jason Momoa Alright, alright. I'll be back downstairs with Darius. What if he's like, scoot over. Yeah, let me get in the middle there I just like, Jesus Christ
Starting point is 01:13:24 Like, you know, I hate that. That would be amazing. You'd be Jason Momode, but I would be scared so here's the thing cuz again if Let's say it is just like the the Amazon Alexa because that's where my brain was going like at a certain point It will be the same as an Alexa or a Roomba. Everybody will just be like, oh you don't have a Roomba. Oh, I see everybody will have them again without. Everybody will just be like, oh, you don't have a Roomba? Oh, I see. It's just everybody will have them, again, without the sex stuff, just as like, person that does the, they cook, they clean the sink.
Starting point is 01:13:50 They're gonna have the sex stuff built in. Of course they are. But what I'm saying is, if you're gonna bring, if you're gonna go buy an Alexa, or a Roomba, and it's gonna have either tits or a dick, you're gonna have to have the conversation
Starting point is 01:14:01 with your wife of, hey, I was thinking we should get a Roomba, because everybody gets a Roomba. Okay, are we getting tits or are we getting a dick? Yeah, but you know what? It'll be like when you hire a nanny. Well, they'll be like, get the ugly one. Get the ugly one. Well, first off, get the ugly one. That would be amazing.
Starting point is 01:14:18 All of a sudden this down fire comes in. And I'm like, what the fuck? I'm telling you now, we might have to believe some of this, but this is a real talk. Anytime you're hiring a nanny with like a significant other, they always want a less attractive nanny in the house. I mean, I think like a hot nanny. I got, well, again, because it's like, let's say it's the opposite and you're like hiring a low, like a home masseuse.
Starting point is 01:14:43 That's what I'm saying. You'd be like, I want, you're going to hire the guy that looks like Willem Dafoe, please. Yeah. So you're probably going to get the Mrs. Doubtfire version. Yeah. See, this is the thing. You could be into that. Well, I'm just saying you can go like a lot of things. Plus replaceable faces. I mean, come on. Swappable faces.
Starting point is 01:14:58 It just sounds like you'll just have a drawer that'll have like the slimmer cut. Yeah. The evening. But then you got to like refill it with stuff. I just I don't want to. It sounds horrible. I mean, I don't that didn't seem like it would be enough for me to be like, oh, hey, put your clothes back on. Yeah. I just don't I have to imagine though, there's going to be a world where 1000% we're going to be I mean, it's happening too fast. Like I think there's a world in which there will be humanoid robots that are coming in and doing menial tasks. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. I mean, honestly, yeah. Yeah, I think it's going
Starting point is 01:15:38 to get there real quick. Real quick. I think about 10 years, dude. I mean, I don't disagree with you the way it's happening and I mean one of the other stories Which I will jump into the story right now because it has a little bit well a lot to do with AI What Lucids partnership with Soundhound means for lucid stock so you know lucid Yeah, I thought they're out of business. No, no, no, that's What was the one that they were out of business. No, no, no, that's, what was the one that just went out of business? Lucid hasn't been doing that well.
Starting point is 01:16:08 No, Lucid's okay. Are they doing okay? It was the Oceana, what was that? What company was that? Not Polestar. Fuck. What's the Oceana? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Well, you're at Google, that's why I asked. I'm all sorry, I was looking at Lucid's stock price. Yeah, anyway. Fisker. Fis Well, you're Google. That's why I asked. I'm sorry. I was looking at Lucid's stock price. Yeah. Anyway, Fisker. Fisker. That's right. That one. Yeah, they're gone. Yeah, they're gone. No. So Lucid make really good cars, really high range luxury. I mean, very luxury luxury car. But what they did was they had Amazon Alexa in their cars. They've now switched out from Amazon Alexa to SoundHound AI that does basically a chat GBT type LLM voice to text
Starting point is 01:17:00 AI assistant. So to me, it's the first car that I know of that's actually adopting an AI voice assistant as their voice commanding system for their car. Because if you think about it, well, you have a BMW, right? It's got voice assist. When was the last time you fucking hit the voice assist
Starting point is 01:17:17 button? About 10 minutes ago. Really? Do you use it? Well, because Siri now is built into it. See, this is the thing. We've talked about how Siri is like, wah wah, versus ChatGPT or some of the other LLMs.
Starting point is 01:17:30 So to think about not having Siri built into your car, but having a ChatGPT type assistant. Right, right, right. Oh, it gets so much better, yeah. But then it brings up the question, I'm not concerned that Siri is going to lock my car, start the engine, turn on the AC weird Should I be worried that maybe chat GBT or something like an AI assistant would go off the rails a little bit
Starting point is 01:17:53 It's firewall the way from the major components of the car. I mean, I'm assuming yeah But like I would ask it to turn up the temperature. Yeah, that's true. So that means it's got access to the temperature Yeah, but worst case you like it's a lot I know I'm just saying Yeah, that's true. So that means it's got access to the temperature. Yeah, but worst case you're like, it's a lot I know I'm just saying and it's like hey lucid. What the fuck are you doing? It's so hot. You like it hot I feel like first off that's for the sex spot at home not for my car. Exactly. You don't have the ports Yet, but it's interesting to me because again, I may be wrong, but this is the first time I've heard of a car manufacturer baking in an LLM voice assistant using AI, not just sort of the, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:32 whatever the quote unquote secret sauces of Alexa or Siri. I mean, you have to imagine given Elon with XAI and Tesla, that's like gotta be less than a year out. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I think this is gonna be the first thing to fall, but it also just kind of gets to that place of like, you know, we talk about this with,
Starting point is 01:18:50 when we talked about Syria and Apple intelligence, which is like, okay, but it's still not the thing that we want. It still keeps telling me like, I found a result before you know, once in a while. Well, now it's like, I don't know, do you want me to talk to Chet GBT? And I was like, dude, why aren't you just Chet GBT? Yeah, well, they just, I don't know you want me to talk to chat GBT and I was like what dude Why aren't you just chat GBT? Yeah? Well, they just I don't know if you saw this
Starting point is 01:19:07 But even today they made an announcement that there's this fixer inside of Apple It's like this one is one woman that basically they just like assigned to like shit That's broken and they just moved her over to Apple intelligence Oh that makes sense so because they were all fucking in on it like you can't even no ad That makes sense so because they were all fucking in on it like you came no ad Happens doesn't just mention Apple. Yeah, but they kind of See they were in a really tough position because they were clearly they missed it. Yeah Oh for you, and so they're just playing catch-up in you mean Apple will get there Yeah, it's just gonna be probably another three years until they have usually after weights until they can do it, usually Apple waits until they can do it right.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Until they can do it like Apple. They don't get into the business. They let Chromecast exist before they're like, okay, here's an Apple TV. Right, but everybody else is doing it so awesomely. And it's just so fast. I think it's just because AI is just so fast. Exactly, they're not used to that.
Starting point is 01:19:59 They're used to seeing a shitty product come out and being like, we can do this better, spending three to four years of doing it better, and then launching it, and we're like, wow, that's an order of magnitude better than what you've done. And because, and it's funny, when I was talking to Reid on the podcast about this, he was mentioning, AI is very much constant deployment
Starting point is 01:20:18 iterative development, right? They're leapfrogging each other every other week. So it's not like we're sitting here and like, oh, product comes out, cool, cool. We wait for a few years and the next thing is like, you can't even slow down. You can't take your foot off the gas right now. No, I mean, honestly, it's like every week there's something
Starting point is 01:20:36 every day there's something. Oh dude, have you played with the freaking Operator? Yeah, have you played with it? No, not yet. We were just talking about it. We were like, I wonder if Kevin's playing with it. Let me see.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Do you have a pro count? I do have a pro count. I see the operator. Yeah, I have it. Dude, the pro count. That'd be amazing. It was like, we're wiping your hard drive. It was like, yeah, here it is.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Get started. Operator, some friends of mine were using it today and they sent me videos and it was like, holy shit. So this is the thing where it basically can do things on your computer for you, right? Yes. We talked about, what was that? No, Claude did one. Claude did one, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:12 But it's not- This is supposed to be way better than Claude's. Although I will say, I've been using Claude's models the other day for a few other things and Claude, it's good. I dumped an American Express year long of American Express transaction spreadsheet into it. I was like, find me everything that I can claim is reimbursable that will be covered by this policy.
Starting point is 01:21:33 It was like, like freaking writing code and spitting me back a spreadsheet. I was like, holy shit. Now all the others failed at it. Yeah. I was like, that's the weird thing about this AI world. It's like some of them, it. Interesting. Yeah, I was like, that's the weird thing about this AI world. It's like some of them, it's funny, Jason Cowley-Cancell was just talking about this where he was saying that like the $20 model from Gemini, we kind of have to have all these subscriptions out because you have to know where, you'd be smart enough now, sadly, still
Starting point is 01:22:00 in these days to know I have this task. This is the model I need to go apply to. Who's the one that's going to make it the best? Yeah. in these days to know I have this task, this is the model I need to go apply to. And so this deep research right here, 105 from Gemini is apparently amazing. So what it does is it starts and says, okay, you say I wanna remodel my kitchen, how do I go about doing that, right?
Starting point is 01:22:22 Which is what you're doing. Yeah, now I'm gonna ask how fucked am I? But typically, Claude would just, or any of these would just come out and be like, well, typically remodels like blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah. And so what it can do is you can say like, I wanna remodel, I live in this side of LA,
Starting point is 01:22:36 here are the shortages. Like it will break these into subcomponents and then spits off separate AIs to go and do their own independent research, including searching the web. And then this model brings it all together. It gives you like this like forced to research level report, like analysts had worked on it for days back to you.
Starting point is 01:22:58 And that's kind of what, have you seen 4.0 actually working? So this is the $200 model right here per month one where you say, have you seen the difference between? No. So yeah, so basically you can choose, sorry, 01, 01 Pro Mode. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember if you see how it kind of slowly does the thinking. We were talking about this on the previous show where some of these models now are going
Starting point is 01:23:21 to be about sending a job and coming back in a week and getting like the full on answers, it's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, well this is the one, there was one that you were talking about that like was like a thousand bucks a question or something like that. That's where some of them are going, which is so crazy. Depending on how deep you wanna go on something.
Starting point is 01:23:37 I was gonna say, and if the question is that valuable to have a good answer, there are worlds in which that's what you're gonna end up doing, you know what I mean? Which is fucking crazy to me, I can't even believe it. So nuts. Anyway. Well you have to tell me how operator goes. Anyway, so that's Lucid.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Yeah, we're gonna see this, this is gonna be a Domino thing, right? Like it's gonna be. All of them, I mean, and like, you know, at CES, there's so many cars that got shown, there was the Sony one. Oh, we're gonna talk about that. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:07 That's one of my stories. Well, let's bring it up. All right, next story of the day. So obviously we don't get into a lot of political stuff on the show here, but I will say it's been a whirlwind of shit going on obviously in the United States. Trump took office, SEC is kind of under new guidance to make a pro crypto America, which I think in many ways is digital first. I mean, it's crypto.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I mean, that was when we made the sort of tongue in cheek jump about the fact that after the election, the Bitcoin, I mean, it's still Bitcoin. Is that like 105K? I think a coin, which is crazy that it's actually not only hit 100, but it's staying at 100 and it's saying over 100. So what's the SEC change that happened? So they revoked this regulation that was in place where it was added in 2022 that forced banks to treat crypto. And I don't know if it's just BTC or not. Oh, yeah, it's crypto and other tokens as a liability on their balance sheets versus just an asset on their balance sheets like any other currency would be.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Interesting. So even, I mean, I get why that may have been in place because of the volatility of it. But then again, if you're holding Venezuelan dollars, you know what I mean? Or like dollars or not dollars, but whatever the currency is of other countries that are just as volatile as crypto, it's interesting that they would have been handcuffed into having to say that this was actually a liability instead of it being an asset, which it is. Yeah, that's the whole thing is like, this unlocks banks now to hold crypto. Like there is a world where you say,
Starting point is 01:25:51 and this is old school combined with new school, but you walk into a bank, you give them $500 in cash and say, deposit this to my account as Bitcoin. And it just like happens. I mean, honestly, that's what people, I mean, that's what Coinbase sort of did, right, was to step up and actually I think the interview was on Foundation back in the day
Starting point is 01:26:12 when the guy who founded Coinbase was on and talking about how he was like, the goal is that your mom could go and get Bitcoin without having to be like knowledgeable about it and hold it. And so to be able to like walk into a Wells Fargo and go, hey, I wanna get into crypto, here's, you know, take half a percent of my holdings
Starting point is 01:26:30 and put it into BTC so I can see some stuff. Not having to invest it into like one of the ETFs or anything, that would be pretty interesting. It is really interesting because that's, there's been these little hacks and workarounds where you can say like, okay, I wanna get paid into BTC. And there's been like these little third parties where you can direct deposit your money in there
Starting point is 01:26:48 and then they convert it and they do a buy for you. And it's like, there's a world where it's a lot more seamless than that, right? It's like, you can log in in a future world into, you know, a Wells Fargo or a Bank of America or one of the, you know, Chase and see, oh, here's my BTC account. Just like I say on a checking account. And it's just, I hold my Bitcoin there and I can write a check and it will just like
Starting point is 01:27:16 convert. Dude, being able to write a check off your Bitcoin. Bitcoin? Oh my God. That would be amazing. I mean, this is the stuff that- Nobody needs to do that. It's so weird. It's like old school.
Starting point is 01:27:26 No, but people would be like, I don't want Bitcoin, I want a check. And so you write a check and when they cash the check, they immediately sell Bitcoin and- No, they would receive Bitcoin back. No, not them, not the check owner. Like, if I, let's say I hire a plumber. He's like, I want a check and all my holdings are in BTC.
Starting point is 01:27:43 And I write a Wells Fargo check. The moment that person cashes that check, Wells Fargo sells and sends. That. What if you could write in Bitcoin? If you have my plumber's like, Hey, it'll be 0.07 cents. Like you're right.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Yeah, cause it gets like, Oh man, this dishwasher is fucked. I mean, we're talking half a cent. Yeah, exactly. Maybe a quarter cent if you're lucky. If I have the part of I mean, we're talking half a sad. Yeah, exactly. Maybe a quarter sad if you're lucky. If I have the part of my truck, it's only a quarter sad, but otherwise, Jesus Christ. Sad's are way cheap, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Sad's are way cheap. And you'd be like, this is a tenth of a Bitcoin right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ooh, God, you bought a Samsung? Fuck. I might be a whole Bitcoin getting this thing out, I gotta route the whole plumber through the floor. I'm telling you, man.
Starting point is 01:28:27 That's the thing that would honestly, that's the thing that most of the people who are like the true believers of Bitcoin as a currency that could be used for goods and services, that's the last bastion of the stepping point. Cash app has it, like all these places where you can kind of do it, but you're sort of half doing it, as you said. It's not institutionalized. Well, I just think that digital currencies like to act, it shouldn't even be a question mark anymore whether that's the future.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Our dollars are digital currencies. They are digital already. I mean, what was the last time you like took money out to hand somebody? Yeah, I mean, that's called a run on the bank, which would never work. Right. If everyone went to Walls Fargo right now to go get their money out, they don't have the money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like it's literally digital zeros and ones, right?
Starting point is 01:29:12 So we'll send it to wherever you'd like us to send it. Right. Exactly. So in some sense, it's just kind of like really making it on the blockchain, which is great. So we can actually have a ledger of that stuff. So we can see more transparency. Yeah. So we can actually have a ledger of that stuff so so we can see more transparency Yeah, but I think if Trump the thing where I think Bitcoin really flies is if Trump actually decides to hold it at the US Global reserves level. Yeah, if you because you know, we are reserves are made up of a bunch of different stuff
Starting point is 01:29:38 And you know, obviously we have our own dollar and there's gold much stuff But they were talking about taking all the seized bitcoins that America has, which is a decent sum, and just putting that into the global reserve as a way to hedge. It's brilliant, dude. It's brilliant. Well, what else are they doing with it? If they have this asset, are they selling it off, auctioning it like they would a boat? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:30:05 Or are they- They are, they auction it off. Interesting. That's what they've done to date. Interesting, so literally just giving them the right to be like, hold it as a currency, like the cash that they're sees, rather than just liquidating it and turning it into cash,
Starting point is 01:30:19 putting the cash in the reserve. Yeah. I don't know why they wouldn't do that. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense, so. That's interesting. That's- It's gonna be an interesting, it's gonna be an't do that. Yeah, it makes it makes a lot of sense. So that's interesting That's a very interesting. It's for crypto. It's gonna be crazy Yeah, yeah for sure the next four years are gonna probably submit crypto into a way that it can't be Uncemented meaning like you're saying if we get enough mass adoption and integration of crypto into all the things that we do over the next
Starting point is 01:30:42 Four years. Yeah, like there's no I don't think there's any going back now, but like I just, yeah, it's, I think Net-Net, it's a good thing. Obviously, with any currency, there is volatility. Well, volatility, but also I just hate this argument where they're like, well, money laundering and all that, and it's digital. All that shit, I'm like, you know, I don't go, you can't go pay for a prostitute in Bitcoin.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Like you can't, I can't go to my drug dealer on the corner and like pay in Bitcoin. You know, it's like, maybe I can now. But like, I'm just saying like, it's way easier. Cash is cash. Cash is cash cash is cash Largely untraceable. Yeah, like if anything Bitcoin is like a public ledger Yeah Like that's gonna be way easier to account for eventually with AI and everything else going on to analyze where things are moving I mean, I think it's just you know, it's the old boogieman tactic. Yeah, you know, it's like crypto
Starting point is 01:31:42 It's the dark web you can write by children on the Harding oh my god well, there's a lot of crazy shit going on For questionable things yesterday setting up a new flat server use groups Yeah, yeah, a lot of the indexes are still like here's a QR code Doge Doge that's so weird you want to doge that Doge? Honey. Doge. That's so weird. You want a doge.
Starting point is 01:32:07 That's so cute. Yeah, I don't know. What do you think about the Trump coin and the Melania coin? Oh God. Did you buy any? Did you buy any? Of course not. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:32:17 That's crazy. I didn't buy any either. All right. Let's talk about a cucumber shortage real quick. And then we'll be done. Cucumber shortages in Iceland blamed on TikTok craze the first time we have experienced something like this is said by one of the leaders of Iceland. Have you guys seen these,
Starting point is 01:32:40 first off, cucumbers are amazing. Can we just talk about that? I love cucumbers. Like mandolin-ing a cucumber and then putting some salt and pepper, oil and vinegar in it. What is a mandolin? Oh, it's like a slicer.
Starting point is 01:32:52 It's like, I have a Japanese mandolin. Ooh. Yeah. Boop, boop, boop. I like the vinegar ones, where they like them a little vinegary. Oh, dude. Yeah. The kimchi, the radishes and the cucumber kimchi's,
Starting point is 01:33:04 my favorite kind of kimchi. Yeah. I put tahini on mine. Ooh, tahini. I like, I like. Cucumbers are great. Cucumbers are great. By the way, you just fucking slice up a cucumber,
Starting point is 01:33:14 put in a thing, salt, pepper, oil, vinegar, feta. You're great, avocado. It's fucking great. It's like the easiest salad to make. So TikTok had exploded with, there's this one specific Canadian TikToker who basically was like, everybody should just eat a whole cucumber. And so he basically does these like very sort of methodical, cool flavor combinations, and he makes these cucumber salads basically, and then eats them throughout the day. It exploded. Well, it exploded so much so that there's actually now
Starting point is 01:33:47 a cucumber shortage in Iceland. Because not many people were eating cucumbers before, so they were bringing in the appropriate amount of cucumbers to Iceland, and now there's actually a shortage going on. Do they grow cucumbers in Iceland? I think they might. I think they might.
Starting point is 01:34:04 I don't know if it says that they have to do them. That was more about why there's a shortage, less about where they come from. I'll ask Chet to do two ways to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's very interesting because I have seen this guy's TikToks and I have done them. Because again- Oh, you have?
Starting point is 01:34:24 Oh, you have. Oh, of course, because it's like, it's great. Cause he does all these different, he does. So it looks like they do farm them. Yeah, ingredients as it says. Yeah, cause it says that there's a, the horticulturalist sales company, SFG, Iceland's Farmers Association, told the BBC
Starting point is 01:34:42 that the shortage of the vegetables and that the farmers were unable to keep up with the spiraling demand for cucumbers. So they probably have to bring cucumbers in. And by the way, you're in Iceland, like shit's expensive, I'm assuming, you know what I mean? But it's crazy to me that cucumbers, I guess, wasn't that big of a thing.
Starting point is 01:35:00 And now because of this TikTok sort of viral rage of, and by the way, yes to viral rage of healthy food choices. You know what I mean? Like, it's not like beer bongs, you know what I mean, have gone crazy. It's literally eating healthy cucumbers or typos. It's eating cucumbers. So there is a downside to successful
Starting point is 01:35:21 TikTok culinary expertise. What do you think about TikTok sticking around now too? Are you happy? a downside to successful TikTok culinary expertise. What do you think about TikTok sticking around now too? Are you happy? I mean, to be honest, I think I was, I have been, I realized that I was into not doom scrolling in the way of like doom scrolling.
Starting point is 01:35:41 I've blown a lot of time just sitting. Like I'll get my coffee in the morning and I'll open like Instagram reels or TikTok and I'll just sit and all of a sudden I look up and it's like, oh, it's been an hour. That's not productive. Are we old because I like Instagram more. Am I old because of that?
Starting point is 01:36:00 It's the same. But it's also the same shit. But I don't wanna be the Facebook guy. I hate shit. I don't want to be the Facebook guy. I hate Facebook. I don't ever use Facebook. I don't post it or anything. Those are for old people. I don't want, I think I'm right in the middle because you got TikTok on the youngins.
Starting point is 01:36:15 The Instagram is like, we're still kind of in it. And then Facebook's for the olds. I don't want, whatever that next jump is, then I'm going to TikTok. Because I need to set the standard. You're going to change the youth. Yeah, I don't want to be. jump is then I'm going to take Because I I need to see the youth. Yeah, you don't need to be there first And it's funny cuz I because I was I was I had tik-tok and I deleted it as soon as it was like, I opened it up and it was like, sorry, not in the United States.
Starting point is 01:36:47 And I was like, well, okay, fuck it. And I deleted it. So I haven't gotten it back yet because it's still technically illegal. They're trying to work it out. No, no, it's fine, man. No, no, no, it's still technically illegal. Well, would it have come after you?
Starting point is 01:36:58 No, no, I'm not worried. I just mean, like any moment it could be down again. So I'm like, why am I spending my time here? Kind of a thing. Yeah. But it could be down again. So I'm like, why am I spending my time here? Kind of a thing. But it is the same thing. Like I see the same content now, but it is a little bit lagged behind on TikTok. Yeah, mine's working right now.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Yeah, mine would be working if I hadn't deleted it, but you can't download it from the Apple store. So it's not on the Apple store. Oh really? They haven't put it back yet? They turned it back on. They turned it back on. They turned it back on. They turned the service back on.
Starting point is 01:37:26 But American companies would be foraging a lot. I forget the exact time. Yeah, I think they have 90 days to figure it out or some shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like they're not, yeah, so bottom line is I can't get it back essentially. And by the way, they did the same thing as remember Flappy Bird. When they pulled Flappy Bird, they did the same thing. As soon as the ban happened,
Starting point is 01:37:47 people were selling their iPhones that had the TikTok hat on for like 3,000 bucks. No way. Yeah, I don't know if anybody got, anybody was dumb enough to do that, but yeah, it was one of those things. Anyway. All right.
Starting point is 01:38:00 What shall we call it today? Yeah, let's do it. We are very excited to come back in Feb. We'll be having some beverages then. Yeah, some beverages as they say. And yeah, what else is going on? So February for me, we obviously are leading up to our big Dignation Live. Yep, March.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Which is in March. So please go lock that down. Dignation.show and the top header there, unless you have ad blocked right now, which I don't think, no, it doesn't get blocked. It says Dignation Live 2025. Get your tickets. Tickets? And yeah, we will see you there.
Starting point is 01:38:33 That is going to be a blast. Well, there'll be a couple more episodes out before we do that one. Yeah, oh, for sure. And I think next, there's a slight chance that next time we may be coming to you from a new studio. Oh, yes. Potential eye, we've been working on a new home, which by the way, we were working on before
Starting point is 01:38:52 Kevin's house actually got hit. We were like, let's find a place. Yeah. So that could be fun. I mean, would be fun, will be fun, I guess. I don't know, we'll see. If not, we'll be right back here. I think we're gonna do like a proper, like,
Starting point is 01:39:04 fun setup, right? Yeah, like something cool. Oh, yeah. You gotta get stuff like bring stuff in and buy stuff. That's like meaningful for us. Yeah Yeah What would you have in a studio? I'll be some possum stew in the back I was thinking like if we're gonna do like a brick facade in the back like Mario Brothers style bricks or something. Oh that'd be fun. Yeah a couple. I was thinking 90s standout brick. 90s standout brick. Yeah amazing. Like something we need like it needs to be like a set but something where we would also actually hang out there. Yeah. So it doesn't feel like it's just like manufactured kind of situation.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Mini fridge, but also a wine fridge. Yes. Wine fridge. If I can, I want my wine. I want some good wine. I want a lot of good wine. I can't. I know Daria was the one where we were on the phone
Starting point is 01:39:55 and she was like, the whiskies! Oh God. I can't even. I thought about getting you a really nice bottle of Japanese whiskey, and then I was like, I can't, the amount of whiskey that was gone, it can't even, I couldn't even. No, I'm good.
Starting point is 01:40:08 I'm like, well, I'm really all about like, just really kind of keeping it lean right now. I love it, dude. I love it. Take the reset, man. Honestly, like one of the things I told Dariad, and we can wrap it up, but one of the things I said is like,
Starting point is 01:40:21 the next six months, the wisest thing to do is nothing actually. It's like don't make any big decisions. Don't do it. Because it was like, oh, where do we live? The kids, or you pull them out of school because a bunch of families are bailing and going to different schools.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Because the kids' school burned down. So it's just like one day at a time. I love it. I think that's really smart. To just go, let's just chill, have good times, enjoy our company. Totally. And celebrate life at the Dignation Live. Yeah!
Starting point is 01:40:49 Big announcements. Alright, that is it for this week's edition of Dignation. I'm Alex Albrecht. I'm Kevin Rose. Arigato gozaimasu. Yay! Grazie mille.

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