Diggnation (rebooted) - Apple AirPods Pro 3: Translation, Heartbeats, and Weird Science | E20 | Diggnation

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Broadcasting from Kevin’s new ADU bunker (goodbye Neuehouse, we barely knew you), Kevin and Alex are back with 80-ish minutes of tech, pranks, and philosophical spirals. From Apple’s latest brain-implants-that-go-in-your-ears to a Samsung fridge trying to sell you stuff while chilling your oat milk, it’s a full spectrum ride through what the internet's doing to us—sometimes with our permission, sometimes with ads. Also: AI fails, mystery stereo tubes, and a German slug with strong prank energy. Chapter Markers0:00:00 – Cold open0:00:39 – Officially episode 20, welcome to the chaos.  0:01:03 – Kevin lost an office, gained a backyard studio.  0:02:24 – Studio tour features incense, Buddha, and a suspiciously nice stereo.  0:04:33 – Phones are ruining mindfulness and wrecking millennial intestines.  0:06:03 – Political engagement exists mostly to keep you angry.  0:09:16 – Alex pitches viral videos about artisanal charcoal.  0:11:05 – Kevin reviews face lasers, Alex reviews earbuds.  0:13:41 – ZBiotics wants to save your liver from you.  0:16:09 – Thanks San Francisco, next stop Chicago.  0:18:57 – AirPods Pro 3: now with live translation and pulse checks.  0:21:06 – An impromptu hearing test roasts the hosts’ ears.  0:22:27 – Apple keynotes should be heckled MST3K-style.  0:23:16 – Kevin hates phone cases, Alex chooses peach.  0:26:24 – MagSafe wallets meet crypto credit cards.  0:27:43 – Kevin turns credit points into a Japan trip.  0:30:16 – Apple pretends to avoid AI, then demos AI.  0:35:57 – Rumors fly about touchscreen Macs and chip envy.  0:37:54 – Claude AI shows off its straight-A student energy.  0:40:48 – LMNT: electrolytes, but Navy Seal-approved.  0:43:29 – Meta glasses want to record your entire existence.  0:47:37 – Tech companies now monetize the in-between moments.  0:51:10 – Zuckerberg’s AI kitchen demo burns the recipe.  0:55:25 – Samsung fridges now idle as ad billboards.  1:01:47 – Kevin asks if the internet can still be fun.  1:09:05 – Diggnation is officially everywhere now.  1:09:57 – Monarch Money: couples’ therapy disguised as budgeting.  1:12:36 – DeleteMe erases your data from shady corners of the web.  1:14:20 – A German slug pranks neighbors by ringing doorbells.  1:16:28 – Childhood pranks involved eggs, TP, and fire bags.  1:18:48 – Kids now bond over lag screens instead of bike rides.  1:20:26 – Wrapping up with meetups, studio thanks, and goodbyes.

Do toilet paper people? I didn't. You didn't? I don't think so. Oh, we gotta do that tonight, dude. Coming up on this show, META is trying to steal every moment of your life, and I don't know what's happening with Kevin. Welcome to Dignation. Also potentially hazardous to your health.

All right, moving on. Why do you have flies in your freaking house? I've noticed in Southern California, and I have fruit. You put zombie and put hearing in the title, and I don't want to do it. DigNation.com Hello everybody, and welcome to DigNation. Episode number 20. I'm Alex Albrecht.

And I'm Kevin Rose. Dignation covers some of the hottest user-submitted stories on the social news website. Dig.com. It's D-I-G-com. Kevin, what is on your face? Well, it's a great question. multiple devices on my face. Is this how you just spend your evenings now?

Exactly. We are actually, well, we have a sad story. Well, not a sad story. We got kicked out of our place. Oh, yes. Yeah, so we, what did you guys think? I assumed it had something to do with your mask. No, no, no.

It's like, I have a facial scar. Yes, we did. So Dig was at Noi House. We can say it now because we're no longer there. and Noy House filed for bankruptcy. It was kind of like a we work plus plus. Yeah. Like a nicer we work.

Yeah. And they went out of business. So we got kicked out. We got what? 72 hours notice, something like 48 hours? 36 hours notice. That's crazy. So quickly moved out.

We right now are in my ADU. Your new house is ADU. I don't even know what an ADU means. I just realize I have no idea. Additional dwelling unit? Ah, there we go. Or is it additional? I guess it's additional.

I guess it's additional. I guess so. Or auxiliary dwelling unit? Anyway, we'll find out. Yeah. Ancillary? No. Ancillary?

Yeah, maybe. No, it is... Excessory. Good Lord. Additional is better. Yeah, it's kind of like a accoutement or an accompaniment, dwelling unit. Yes. I like that.

We got a place, our househead burned down, rest and peace. I'm done milking that. And we got a place on the west side of LA and it came with a dwelling unit. So I've turned this into a little... Office studio? Office studio slash Kevin's in trouble with his wife. You might sleep here sometimes. Situation.

Yes. The Situation room. Yes. Situation room. Yeah. So this is, we'll give you a little tour. Now I can show you some things like my little meditation pad, my cute little Buddha, my little incense holder, which is very nice. I just got this from Japan.

Very nice. My stereo system here, which you can see is quite nice. It's very tubular. I do like a little tube-based stereo system. I know we heard it before. It's, I mean, it's butter. It sounds good. I got a Susan Carr original signed little graphic here.

And this was actually one that she did for Steve Jobs back in the day. So Susan was the creator of the original Mac icons on the first Mac. She's still alive. I think she's in her late 70s now. And the cool thing about this is that you can pick these up and limited numbers. I think she signs like 300 numbers or something like that on her website. And they're like between $300 to $700. So they're not crazy.

You can get one of the assigned prints from her. It's like a piece of history. It's a piece of history. Especially if you're a macnut. You know what I mean? This right here is a piece of temple from Japan. And you stole it? I stole it.

The last time was in Japan. No, they were breaking down the temple and they were kind of like, I don't know what they were doing with temple, but they were getting rid of it. And they had chunks of it that they were selling off. That's so cool. And so this was a place where Basho, who's a very famous, I was going to say Zen, not Zen, but very famous Japanese haiku poet used to kind of practice there. and you know it was one of those things where I was like

that's so beautiful I have to get that and I had a ship from Japan and I had it's here now I love it and I got to see some of your nano nano blocks yes my just my cherry blossom tree I didn't realize I mean I know you had sort of tried to make it tell what happened when we touched it

well first off we touched it and the cherry blossoms fell off and Kevin immediately was like oh oh no and he was like you're supposed to be able to move it and he goes oh god oh no and then it took me like five minutes and I was like hold on let me help you And it's like two guys in their 40s, like, sit there. I will say it was a very meditative moment. Isn't it nice?

Yeah, it was very nice. It's like, I get having like a place to get. I've been, Heather and I have been talking about this whole concept of like, not necessarily mindfulness, you know what I mean, but just the lack of use of phone. Like I just feel like I'm just constantly like there's no period of time where, like, I started doing this thing and I don't think it's very healthy where like when I even go pee in the toilet. I'll take my phone out and start looking at Instagram. I thought you're going to say you're doing that as like a

meditation practice, like circles around the... I should. That's what I should be doing. Instead of looking at my fucking phone every time I pissed. Well, they say that hemorrhoids are on the rise right now. I'm not joking. They said millennials are getting more hemorrhoids than ever. Because they're spending so much time on the shitter, sitting there flexing while they're surfing the internet. I mean...

I don't... It's hard, man. It's hard. I get to this point now. and we'll like watch the Dodger game and the moment it goes to a commercial I press mute and I take my phone out and I'm instantly scrolling I dude I have to stop

I have to stop yeah and so I had so thinking of like doing like having a place to like go and just sit and do Lego like it would be very hard for me and my mind I think would be like playing tricks like I'm not very good at being alone with my thoughts not that my thoughts are bad

I just I get so fucking bored yeah I'm just like so even on the way over here when I was driving over I was like, you know what? I'm going to fucking not listen to the radio. I'm just going to drive and think. It was very weird. No, but this isn't, well, it's a lost art at this point, sadly.

We're getting at this point where, like, that is weird, where that just used to be what we did. Yeah. It was like, to your point about that earlier episode when you said that punishment now is the same kids outside. Yes. It used to be like, we would love to go outside. Yeah, there's so much stuff you could do.

It's so wild. As fall has started to come in, I've started to get this sense, I love fall, like the smell of fall, like the long shadows, there's just something about that transition that if you take it in, it's like, it's very grounding for me. We're heading into the holidays. Yeah, yeah. But you realize that everything that's happening in here is not reality.

Like, reality is actually, well, everything out here doesn't think about all the concerns that we have. Oh, God, it's the best. You know what I mean? So it's just a couple inches, not even that. of our skull and everything else drops away. It's all peace. Yeah, because it has no...

Because this isn't worrying about what the hell is going on in politics. Like, it might be because it's talking to the chat, t, but you just got to get out of here and let it all come flow in. And it's beautiful if you can do that. Heather and I... Anxiety goes down. It's really interesting. It's really interesting because Heather and I've been having this conversation with Heather.

My social feed is much more geared towards gaming and cooking. So I don't get a lot of political stuff. Yeah. Heather's social feed is very political. Yeah. And I can see it eating at her. She gets so angry and mad and aggravated. Oh, for sure.

And I told her literally like last night or I think it was the night before, I had this moment where I went, the world of politics, whether you're on the right or the left, like the world of politics, the machine that exists, is encouraged by making you angry and afraid. That is how it keeps you engaged. That's how it makes money. The world, like the machine of the left and the right. That's how it works. It's turned into the ultimate entertainment. Because the states are so high. Yeah, but I also said, you got to realize we have a very limited amount of time on this planet, like very limited. Right. And if the current state of political discourse is causing you to not enjoy your days, that is people stealing time

from you that you will never get back. And you've got to have fun. You know what I mean? The other side though, which I agree with this too, is like, if you just stick your head in the sand, then you're kind of in a very privileged position to not have to care about that. I totally agree with that. I totally agree with that. I mean, it's tough.

But also, it's like, it's so hard to know what you can do day to day to affect it in any meaningful way anyway. Yeah. So it's like, what's better to be stressed about it and try to figure out what to do, even though you're probably not going to be able to make a dent or stop thinking about it and live your life as happy as you can and as peaceful as you can.

I'm sure there's a middle ground. I don't know what it is, but I was definitely knowing that I'm spending way too much time on the internet. I'm spending way too much time being engaged in shit that does. I mean, I'm literally just blowing time on Instagram at this point. My Instagram is great.

Yes, I end up cooking some of the stuff on Instagram so I can like say, hey, but I cook the stuff. Have you seen what the fuck kind of charcoal is this? Have you not? Do you ever listen to the what the fuck guy? You ever listen to kind of charcoal is this? Do you ever listen to what the fuck guy? I mean, maybe.

Okay, let me just show you one thing. And we can put this on the video. So there's this guy that basically he records all these videos that essentially is what the fuck and then insert the thing. And so what he does is he'll be like, what the fuck kind of bridges this? And he'll show the wildest bridges that you've ever seen. And he does what the fuck kind of, what the fuck kind of, What is this?

And he shows it over and over and over. And then you're like, it's brilliant that. Watch this. This is what the fuck kind of charcoal is this? We'll show this in the... What the fucking kind of charcoal is this? This is bamboo charcoal. Made from bamboo by high temperature of firing.

Your burns without smoke or odor. Whoa. What the fucking kind of charcoal is this? This is Thompson, steel, Winchleton. It is also known as the rose of charcoal, and its son is like down of steel. What the fucking kind of charcoal is this? This is for charcoal. Easy to ignite burns fast and can start a fire quickly.

What the fucking kind of charcoal is this? That's one. This is one of charcoal. It is suitable for roasting small ingredients. And kind of part is unique, not a flavor to food. They have that for everything. That is amazing. It's so good.

That's good. But if I'm spending time just watching that and not like being with myself. Right. That feels, there's got to be a balance. This is why we need to get you a meditation practice, dude. Bro, I'm in, let's meditate me. You need me. What do I do?

How do I do it? I'm ready. Where I go? You act like it's like some kind of marinade you sit in. Yeah, I'm going to get meditated. I want to meditate. I think flavor bombs up in this mom. Yeah, well, speaking of meditation.

Yes. And things that are good and healthy for yourself. Because we lost. Oh, we should see what this is, by the way. We didn't say what this one. Oh, yeah, what is that? Is it good for your face? This is a face thing that shoots LEDs.

It's made by a therobody. So they also do the face fucker That other mask Oh yes I'm not an investor here I don't know if this works But LEDs in general They seem to be getting a lot of traction There is some data around

Actually improving wrinkles in your face So is that what it was trying to do Yeah exactly I use this I don't I don't have any actual empirical scientific data To back it up in any way So I don't know

I do like one skin One skin's pretty dope You ever try this? No I don't I don't do any facial stuff So this is a peptide that it will reduce the crap out of your wrinkles. Now this one I will say... Do I have wrinkles?

Where do I put? Yeah, dude, your crow's feet, dog. Oh, okay, bro. You never even know... Sorry, bro, I never noticed my crows feet, dog. You never even notice your crows feet? I don't... What am I looking at my face for?

I love that you never even notice your crows feet. I don't. It's trying to go away. One skin, I will say... In all transparency, I do have an angel investment in one skin. I like them because they have some published studies. that are really impressive. So look at the studies.

Don't buy it because I said, too. Just look at the studies and shit. Look at the studies and then put it on your speed. This is awesome, though. I'm not an investor here either. I always like to be transparent with all this shit. This is the nothing headphones. It's the same people that make the Android phone that I like.

Oh, yeah, yeah. So, dude, these are dope. So check it out. Field that scroll for volume. It scrolls like up, that's up and down. Isn't that makes sense to you? That's really cool. Now, now this, hit this up and down.

So that's forward track and backtrack. Oh, that feels good. Really simple, right? Yeah, it does. I think they work with Tang Engineering and some of their stuff. Yeah, they do. They work together. So this button right here will flip you between audio applications.

If you have multiple different audio applications, like, well, I want to go to Audible to Spotify. Boom. Or it will do your voice assistant. So you can basically program it to do whatever you want. Got it. So you could hit that and be like, hey, chat chip your teeth, make me money. Yeah, so they make these in black. And they also, they're made by Keff, the speaker system.

Oh, yeah, yeah, Keff's great. So anyway, I like these a lot. I just got them. I don't think it's the best noise canceling the world. but they sound great. You put the peptides on your face, you put the face fucker on 2.0, and then you put your nothing in your phones on

and just sit for a second? I mean, that's not the face fucker. That's the one that's the one that's your face, which I actually really like that. If you want to get anything from Thera body, I don't like the massage on. I turn the massage off. If you want to get anything from Faribody,

it's not called the face fucker. We called it that. It's like the face maseager that they have. It's called the face fucker. We all know. But so speaking of health, you may have no. So we had to,

we had to lose our lease party because it happened quickly. So we're shooting over at Kevin's. Kevin had a scheduling conflict with when we were supposed to shoot this. Oh, that town, yeah. Yeah, early this week. So we're shooting it at like one in the afternoon. So rather, and since you're still on your sober journey. I was ready to drink.

Sober journey. I'll drink right now. I mean, I brought a bottle of wine specifically. Go ahead. It was great. Anyway, but so all of that is to say, we are have it. We are sponsored by, my favorite sponsor when it comes to booze, Z-biotics,

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Pre-alcohol produces an enzyme that breaks down that byproduct. So this has become my go-to predignation shoot thing, and I will tell you, it definitely makes me feel better the next day. doing it now for several weeks. You drink it right before we go live. Yeah. Yeah. And do you don't feel any hangover? Nope. Not the next day. And I drink copious amounts of alcohol. Anyway, so I'm going to save this one for later today, maybe pre-dinner. I really want you to go get your liver enzymes checked. I should. When you're drinking, like the day after you drink. Don't do the cheetah. I'm not going to do the cheeses. I love doing cheetahs. Tell me what cheeses is. You just don't drink for a week and then get your liver end up checked. I love that your doctor's like, Alex, you're amazing.

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No questions ask. Go check it out. Bingo, bango. We wanted to thank everybody for meeting up in San Francisco. Oh, it was so much fun. It was so much fun. That was a great meeting, everybody. Yeah.

Yeah. There was somebody at the phone. No, no, no. He's taking a picture. No, no, no, it's food. Are you sure? Yeah, 100%. Because I saw it's a bag.

I'm waiting for the new iPhone Air. Which, by the way, well, we're going to talk about all the Apple announces. But by the way, my iPhone Air got to my house 30 minutes after I left to come to Kevin's. So we could have had it. I know. Look at this. UPS between 12 and 4 p.m. I know.

It's 146 right now. Hey, mine was supposed to be between 3 and 7. and it came at whatever that was. Oh, out for delivery. Okay, we'll keep watching. Could do it live unboxing. Oh, yeah. Live slash recorded slash you'll see it a few weeks later.

Did you get the air? I got the air, yeah. I did. Well, first, let's get into it. Let's get into it. Here we go. And also. Oh, we got to tell people we're going to do

the live streaming mystery science style. Yes, yes. We'll tell them to that when we talk about the Apple. Okay, the Apple announces. But we also wanted to say it was so great meeting everybody at the San Francisco Dig IRL meetup. Yeah, it was awesome. It was super fun.

Dude, we had so many people there. My favorite moment was talking with Justin, CEO of Dig. And this guy came up and he was like, hey. And we were like, hey, man, welcome. It's so great to see you. And he's like, yeah. So how are you guys connected to this company? And I was like, oh, that's the CEO.

And he was like, oh, he had a buddy was like, I'm going to go to this thing. You want to come like three hours before? And he was like, sure. He had a blast. Yeah. And he's like, I'd like you an invite. Yeah. He's super excited.

That was awesome. It was super fun. We had a really great time. It was great meeting everybody. And we are coming to Chicago. Yes. So we are hitting the middle. Is Chicago in the middle?

Yeah, I think we're pretty much dead center. Give a take. There was a UFO out there. There was. That's what happens. So it's going to be early October. We're not sure exactly where in Chicago or exactly when. But stick around.

Keep your infos there because we love meeting everybody in. Pequods. Pequots. Great deep dish pizza in Chicago. Amazing. That calendar just gave me Agita. Kevin just opened his calendar and I don't... That's my shit, dude.

Jesus, just put it away. You want to see what my calendar looks like? Look, this is my calendar. Oh, my God. Show everybody that. There's one entry. It's Dignation. Dude, I hate you.

Why am I still working and you just get to chill? I mean, it's fun. You got to grab life by the nut sack when you get it. All right, here we go. You've been holding that sack for a while. love it. That was so great. I know. It was such a big difference. I didn't even have like a holiday in there. It's like nothing. You're like every day is a holiday for you. It's amazing. It's amazing. Anyway, let's get into our first story. Our first story, AirPods Pro 3 review, big improvements, same price,

no compromises. This was submitted by Emil. Apple announced a whole bunch of stuff. And one of the things that they talked about was the new AirPods Pro 3. And I will tell you, I am not an AirPods user. Heather, Heather has some, loves them. I bought them and tried them, and I had a weird sense of, we've talked about this before. I have a weird, like, electro. Oh, Jesus Christ. Next-gen AirPods. Uh, just hit mute on your... Jesus. Thank you. I had to do it. Anyway, I had, there's a little bit of like a weird Is that only with noise cancelling? No, no, it's like my brain just feels weird.

It's probably psychosomatic. I don't know. I'm going to try, I'm going to maybe get some of these. Do you have hearing issues? No, no, no. Can I test your hearing real quick? Yes. Okay, keep going to keep going.

We're going to do anything. But here's the thing that was so impressive to me was we talked a little bit about this with the, I can hear that. Was that the test? We talked a little bit about this with the Google Pixel. with the live translation on the calls. Yes. But the fact that they're going to start doing live translation in ear,

in real time, is to me we're getting to the Holy Grill. Like, we've been talking about, like, you know, the universal translator from Star Trek. You know what I mean? Like, we're really starting to get there. The fact that it's baked into the AirPods now, to me, is like, I would get these specifically to go. I mean, think about being in Japan

and going to one of those crazy restaurants that's like very local and they do not speak English. And then you can say something back to it and hold your phone up and it shows them the translation. Yeah. And do you know that has heart rate sensor built in? So that's the other thing.

Then you can go jog around. You don't have to worry about having your Apple Watch and all that stuff if you want to go and see how you're to track all your stuff. And it does your steps and stuff. It's amazing. It does a whole bunch of stuff. So let's test your hearing.

Okay. So this is no joke. So it's a hearing test. So I don't hear any external. There's a buzzing going on here. I'm very sensitive to sounds. When you stop hearing this, raise your hand, okay? When you stop hearing this.

So it's going to tell you your age. So basically we should all be able to hear the first part and then eventually goes out. Here we go. And we'll put this link in the show notes. What? Here we go. And you stop hearing it. That's 60?

Age 60. 8.50? Oh, we're the same. Did you just follow me? No, what was it? You could hear longer? Oh, yeah, like a couple seconds longer. I was, we were 29 years old.

Let's try that again. We'll put this link in the show notes. This might not be good for audio for people listening. We should just troll them and turn the sound off, right? Okay, 45, the concealier is 40. 29. Yeah. You put yours up higher.

I think my, no, not higher, sooner. I think my maybe was a little sooner. I mean, it still feels good to be not almost 50 in hearing age. Hearing's always been, like I've always been good at here. All right. So they also announced a whole shit ton of other products. It was a very interesting announcement. Yeah.

Kevin and I were watching it Well we started We were live texting And we realized our comments We were cracking each other up And it almost felt like mystery science 3,000

For those who don't remember They used to play old movies And they would have comedians sit there And just kind of You'd hear the movie But you'd also hear them just making It was almost like you were sitting next to a buddy during a movie

And they were just cracking jokes the entire time And we were just like There was so many funny moments To poke fun of We thought wouldn't it be fun if next time there's a big event we'll do it live on dig live stream we'll get together

we'll have you commenting and then we can also just be making fun of their video I love it I was so so excited well the air was the most confusing to me because they said okay we've got this new phone it's called the air and they do the sexy video and I'm like okay it looks good yeah yeah first of all I'm never going to want to put a case on it

it's just too sexy to put a case I got the bumper case I've not done a case on my phone for years how many how long have you have this for a year and you've never, you've never dropped it. Why would I drop my phone? I mean, I get that like, you're not purposely dropping it, but I have a bunch of dings on mine

because it inevitably just slips on my pocket. Not me. How do you... I would say, in the last episode, that you felt more careful, more pressure to your phone when you got my pay phone? A, that does sound like something I would say. I don't remember a lot of it.

I was drinking. I was drinking. But the other thing is, for me, it was anger. It was, you are making... Because you typically throw your phone when you get pissed. You know, calm down, Alex. You're fucking making a $1,000 phone plus, and I have to put a case on it because you've made it so fragile that it won't work as a normal phone. Correct.

So I go, fuck you then. I'm not going to wear, I'm not going to hold a case. And to be fair, I'm in that like upgrade program. So it's like if I drop it, it's on them anyway. Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, you get the pro. Yeah, Apple Plus.

Whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So but, but that to say, so that's all to say, I'm not going to put a case on it, not even going to do the bumper. You went here. What color did you go with? Black. Blue. Oh.

Just because like when somebody walks by, like if you're at dinner and they see it out, it's like, oh, he's a little different. He's a little blue. Well, I did this, like, whatever this color is, it's like coral or what? That's pink, dude. That's, no, no, it was, it's called something else. I'm sorry, brother, that is pink. No, it. You got the fucking pink one.

What was the color that they had? It's not pink. It was rose. It was rose. was it rose it was rosé yeah that is that is rosé i don't think i would have bought it it and it was called rosé i mean you got the rose one dude it i mean it's nice it is pink shaded peach peach anyway uh it's been it's been it's been it's been very good for me for the last year i'm excited for my air my black air it looks like my mom's phone dude it definitely does

well it's she you go peach with this one did you no i did the black one okay you do the black's right so i heard somebody talking about the fact that like apple did this with the MacBook Air when they announced the MacBook Air and that whole cool, like, I fucking remember we were doing Dignation when the MacBook Air was announced. I think I might have got it. Ooh, look how beautiful. You could have gone gold. But then you'd be like, oh, yeah.

That's fair. By the way, you've got powder blue. I got powder blue. It's not maybe blue. Listen. It's like baby blue. No, it's not baby blue. It's more of a, how would you call it, a morning mist is how a way I put it.

Morning mist. That's what I got. It's what I got. It's a morning mist. I got the brown one. I call it morning mist. You know what? You should work in Apple branding. Done.

Like we have the new morning wood. Yeah, this morning wood. And I'm just to the back one. For those of you that get up early? Yeah, exactly. It's got an extra terabyte. What kind of wood is this? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Morning wood. But it's really interesting because I've never done, the other thing is like, I've never done, I got the, I got a cool new wallet. This little thing. I don't even know what it's called. It's a little pouch. But how cool is that, right? Just like a little... Yeah.

Bip. Oh, I got the new coin-based credit card. Oh, yeah, that's right. Dude, it's dope. 4% back on everything. But you have to keep coin-based currency there. Yeah. But you know how everybody does, or a lot of people do that mag-safe wallet?

Yeah. That goes here. I would never do that. Although now that I think about it, I'm like, this is exactly what's in my pocket anyway. It's just not connected. But with the air, it has that little divot in, and I was like, I might get a mag-safe wallet. You know what I mean? Like a really thin one?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that could be cool. Yeah. I was like, only like all you really need, well, in California, they have digital ID now. Yeah, which I got to set up. I got to set up. Yeah. I don't know what you need anymore.

I mean, every once in a while there's a place that doesn't take Apple Pay. So you probably need one card, Cornbase card. I have no affiliation with Coinbase, but I will say that their new credit card is pretty promising if you hold cryptocurrency. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you get 4%, which is just on everything, dude, that's amazing. The only better card that I have. in Bitcoin. In Bitcoin, exactly. It's like Block 5, which I had, and then I went out of business. I did get my Bitcoin back. So that's amazing. They did go out of business. Not everyone did.

I will say that the only card that is better than that, and granted, it's not in Bitcoin, but you can get 5% cashback on Amazon Visa. Do you have that? No. So I use that as well. So 5% cashback, which is huge. Just for Amazon purchases. I feel like we need to like call Hutchins and just have them fly to Los Angeles and sit down with us for the weekend and just go through all of our shit. Yeah, I mean, because I have like, that'd be a good episode. I do. Oh, dude, yeah. Behind the scenes, like Chris Hutchins does all the hacks, a podcast, great podcast for those of you that are into credit card rewards and points. Yeah, and he buys gold at Costco and shit and flips that he does crazy shit. He's, he's a crazy person. Yeah. But I appreciate it. But so, like,

for us, like, have you ever used points.comme? I have not. So it's this, it's this thing. It's a service and I appreciate that it's a service. It forwarded to point.mee. Yeah, point on me, that might be what is this. It's it. Travel? Yeah. But you have, it's a subscription service, but they, it helps you figure out because like, and I tried to get AI to do this for me where it's like, you got all these points. Yeah, I got so many, because we use American Express exclusively. Right. And so we have a shit ton of American Express points and you can transfer those over to, um, uh, other airline. Right. Or you can book directly on a, on American or you can book directly, but there's all these like crazy things. And I've always been like,

I just want something that, like, is just checking certain locations, like Japan for you, right? Like, if you all of a sudden, you were like, hey, a first class round trip ticket to Japan, if you go in the next three months on Air Japan, whatever. Japan Airlines, Jail, Jal, is, you know, only 45,000 miles. Right. You'd be like, well, maybe I should go. You know what I mean? And so I want to do that, but I don't, I just don't know how to do that.

I might go in November for a quick little trip. You should. You think about going. Craig Maud. You know Craig and all of you've ever been at him before? He's awesome. He blogs about writing walking in Japan. No, but you went on one of his walks.

Yes, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a year ago. So I think about going out and seeing him just for a couple days, do the little walksies and just hanging out and grab some coffee and shit. That'd be fun. Why not, dude? We've got to go again.

I don't take you out there. So I'm going, I'm going to go for my birthday. I know. We talked about you invited me. I did. I want to take you around. Yeah, I want that. Anyway, are you going to get this, the body, cross-body strap for your body?

Jesus, dude. The second I saw that cross-body strap, I'm like, this is why we should have that, like, that, that, I just love to, like, drumroll, please. Let's show you some of the massively awesome accessories. Well, it was just like, hilly-you-law to the side. And I get that there's some people going to love that. So other things, though, from Apple, you know, they didn't mention anything about AI. They were like really light on that stuff I mean they mentioned like

Oh well except they did make that one comment Where they were like we've been at the forefront of AI for years Yeah Forefront? Yeah for you've been there Yeah yeah I think that I got the new macOS And I got the new iOS And so it's funny I have this thing Have you upgraded iOS yet?

No because whenever I I have this thing It's just sort of psychosomatic I don't want to see the new operating system On my old phone Oh okay So when my new phone gets here, I'm like, fucking look at this new phone. It's so different. Yeah.

And if I upgraded my other phone, I'd be like, oh, it's just like my own phone. Oh, dude. So I, I only reason I put the iOS on here is because I have, I mean, part of this new alpha, which I don't know if I can talk about it yet. Okay. But I kind of want to play you a demo here. Okay. So no one's ever seen this before. This is an unreleased product.

I'm going to have to. No, you don't know this. Oh. This is, this is called Sky. It's a company that is not out yet, but it is a, so, okay, let me set it up. The new iOS, one of the things that's really interesting about this individual, this guy's ex-Google, he goes in after the release of the iOS, like the dude, the announcements at WWDC, and he picks through all the documentation saying, what did they not talk about on stage, but is a new API that might be worth building an app against. So in this new OS, for the first time, this is ever. been possible, you can now have your own custom alarms. So that doesn't sound like anything.

It doesn't. But because the alarm is an alarm. Yeah. Well, that means you can have an app take over the alarm for the first time, a third-party app. Oh. Okay. So what this is is something that will wake you up in the morning. It's called Alarm-O. It's not Alarm-O. It's called Scott. It wakes you up in the morning. It connects to your Spotify. It connects to your Google Calendar. It connects to your email. And then it gives you a customized daily briefing. I have no idea what this is going to say. Whoa. So listen to this.

This is alpha. Here it goes. It's thinking in real time. So this is what you would get at six. Any time you want, though. You can tune at any time. Hey, Kevin. Friday afternoon after the Dignation session,

how'd that go with Alex? That Stinson offsite this week looked intense. Multi-day strategic planning sessions can drain even the sharpest minds. True. Alana from The Untold sent over this week's top line. Sounds like your Tech Magic interview with Kathy Hackle launched their new season strong in September. Good to see the media work paying off. Your delivery game today was comprehensive.

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Might be worth checking that meditation retreat timing. Those Autumn Sachine sessions, same proper schedule. I don't know, let's get another 10 seconds. It's clear after that intense adventure work. Time to let your mind decompress from all that partner level decision making. Pretty cool, right? It is. Now, I would be very six weeks.

very stressed if that's how I woke up every morning. So you owe $700 to that guy. You should probably get on that. Oh, fuck. Okay. Thanks. Morning, Mom. Yeah, yeah. Well, here's the thing. But that's a really great idea. You can turn on triple X mode and she gets a lot more.

What's spicy? Can you imagine? No, the cool thing about it is it builds these core memories about you and what you like and don't like and then you can influence them by harding them in the settings and it will tell you more or less of that. So if you wanted to like, you know, comment on your stocks, it'll do that.

If you want to tell you about your appointments, it'll do that. That's such an interesting idea. It's a brand new, this is only six weeks of coding that they put this together. Wow. Isn't that insane? That's insane. And they're creating a SOC2 compliant, which is a fancy way of saying that they take privacy very seriously.

So if they're tying into your personal account and your work calendar, they discard all the information after they process it. Got it. So it's really a cool company. We haven't invested yet. We were looking at it, but it's like that was an early, early demo of something that will get much, much better. Imagine that's six weeks.

In a year from now, that'll be like fully dialed into you. Yeah, Apple's going to buy them and integrate it. I think so. I probably wouldn't surprise me. I mean, that's how that stuff works. That's so cool. I love that idea of like what APIs are available in the new operating system that they did not talk about.

Right. Like, that's so smart. It's so smart. This is a really sharp team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Well, hey, so Apple's got a cool new stuff coming. Lots of announcements.

I'm trying to think if there's anything else that jumped out at the Apple event? At the Apple event. I mean, it was a little bit like iPhones are just sort of getting a little bit better, a little bit the same. I mean, that's one of the reasons why I went with the air was because I was like, I want something different. You know what I mean? And I don't know if I actually need the foldable thing. Yeah. But I really love.

Like an actual foldable phone? Yeah. Yeah, I don't really need that. Well, with the air size now, you have to imagine, because it's so. thin. Yeah. This is like step one. Step two is like sandwich. Oh, so that's what I was going to say. This is one of the things was that Apple announced the MacBook Air and they were like, we know that we can get the form factor down. We know

that we're going to be limited in functionality based on the form factor. But that's the whole thing is the form factor is the forcing function to get people to buy it. But that the phones themselves will just start to get that thin over time, just like these laptops. I mean, yeah, it's not as thin as a MacBook Air, but it's sure. hell a lot thinner than they used to be. You know what I mean? So it's like pretty soon they're thinking that the air is just their way to be like, let's see how people like the form factor.

The rumor that just dropped a couple days ago is fascinating where they say by the end of the year, they'll go into production for a new laptop that's going to be touchscreen on the Mac. And then they said by the end of next year, there'll be an iPhone chip powered laptop. Wow. So talk about a fishing and thin. the dragon or what's the snap dragon thing? Like remember they started

doing that. That's not their chip. No, no, no, I know. But that has happened where they make these like ultra small laptops using mobile processors because the mobile processors were getting so powerful. I mean, if you think about the day to day, like this is not my gaming laptop. Oh, yeah, no. So, I don't even have a gaming laptop.

But also, Mac is not about gaming. Right. But if I want to surf the web, check my emails, work on some documents. Yeah. Put together a Dignation thing. Yeah. Like, I just, I had something was half a stand with double, triple the battery life? Like, done. Yeah.

And you don't need all this crazy processing power. It's not your, you know, you've got your own LLM running on your laptop locally. That's correct. You know what I mean? Like, you get a bigger machine if you need that. Yeah. Oh, I love that. I love that idea.

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Yeah. They got the new meta... I mean, they're making these ray bands in a bunch of different form factors. Which I have. I have the... You have the first ones. I have the first gens.

Yeah, my little sister gave them to us for Christmas. Okay. Super fun. Do you like them? I mean, first off, they look like they're good glasses, right? They're just nice sunglasses, so that's nice. They're not as big and bulky as you think. and the reason why

this is interesting to me this announcement was because it's really hard because I just don't want to talk to myself and the only way you can kind of interact with it is by asking it things yeah but they got that little wristband

now that you can use well no and this announcement was about the wristband and the display that's the big key oh god I have so many problems with this they're loving it

they're loving it yes but here's the thing I watch their asses kicked when they wear them like nobody wants to sit across but this is the thing I watched one of the reviews, and the lady who was talking about, like, how excited she was, she just looked like she was somewhere else.

She's literally just sitting there and she goes, oh, this is so great. And she's just like this. Oh, wow. I know. So great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm saying, we might be over the hump. No, we're not over the hump. So, okay. How do you really feel about, Kevin? Well, I've said this story before, but I'll say one last quick time. So when Google Glass first came out, I was lucky because I was a good. Google. I went over the Google X and they gave me the glass. I was one of the first people to take it out off campus. And I got really lucky. I don't know the same there's a flag. I just got

lucky I was there and at the right time. So they were just starting to hand out demo units. And so I got one of the employee demo units. I took it to a party and I'll never forget the feeling when everybody, and I don't think times have changed in that they look at you and they're like, there's just, are you recording? Are you doing something? Are you invading my privacy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's instant and it's always going to be persistent. And especially when you hide that little camera in the lens and shit, it's like you don't feel comfortable in front of that. It's the same thing with the pendants that we're seeing that are always listening and

listening to you via AI. When you see someone with that on, you're like, take it off. I don't want to do this. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just worry that there's two problems with it. One is that. It creates this weird space that you're in with somebody else.

And the second is the one that you mentioned where there's that distant look where it's like, okay, are we here together having a conversation? Are you off somewhere else? Because it's horrible when you're with a friend and they're like looking at their phone. Oh, 100%. You can call them out right away. Dude, put your front way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is just encouraging more of that behavior.

And I look at it, I'm like, what is Zuckerberg trying to do? Why is he trying to wedge these experiences into us that we don't necessarily want? It's a really dystopian weird future when it's like, okay, we're going to have these things with us that are constantly answering all of our questions. One of the things that I realized recently is that, and I caught myself doing this, with AI auto fixing my spelling mistakes and like having this all happen, I am getting worse at spelling. Oh, yeah. Because I was never good. I was never good. And I do not even care now.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because I'm like, it's like beautiful and I'm like, mirror for. And I just like let it go and fix it. when I should be like, oh, I be for a year, I get that it's like in the thing, but the point being is that I turned that off the auto

complete thing. It's Wally, right? You're just getting dumber and dumber. We're getting fat and dumb and distracted and disconnected and relying upon third party sources. Oh, what is that? Oh, that was constructed in 1815. Yeah, tell me what I'm looking at. Next thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, what happened to

reading, to going deeper, to I know we're old, but also. So we're not that on the right side of this stuff. Yeah, I know, I know. And the other thing, too, is I think going back to why is Zuck trying to jam this thing in? And the answer is minutes and seconds and moments is the current currency of tech companies, right? So they want, there's only a limited number of moments in a day that you can get exposed to their company. And their goal is to increase the amount of moments in your day that they get to control so that they can.

and advertise to you. And this is just a way to say, what about the moments between looking at your phone and picking up your phone again? And these glasses are trying to take that moment from you. You know what I mean? The moment of walking outside of the front door to your car before your car takes that moment from you, you know what I mean? That's what those glasses are trying to capture because the company's job is to capture moments and almost all your moments are taken up. So this is going to try to capture that moment, and it's fucking horrible. It's also, there's two problems with this. It's, they're building tools to capture moments and they're also building tools to make moments perfect. And there's two pieces of this that

are bad. If you're at a concert, you'll notice this. Everyone is like this. And it's not even like they're holding their phones up to look at the stage. They're looking at their phones recording the moment rather than actually looking at the stage. And nobody goes back and looks that shit. Like, you record it, like, he may post it social. But then it's like, oh, the demos they show you. It's like, oh, your kid's like trying to do something. And you use both hands and you're like swinging your kid around and you get the video. Cute. Awesome. But then afterwards they're like, oh, was there a little piece of trash in the background? Like circle that with a little thing and delete it from the thing. Yeah. Yeah. What are you doing?

But that didn't exist. Yeah. That wasn't the moment. Yeah. And like, people are removing like gates and fences that look weird. And like a little kid later is going to be like, oh, look my child of photos. But wasn't there a gate there? Dude. My buddy Jeff. My buddy Jeff. My buddy Jeff. just ran like a half marathon in Colorado. And he posted a picture of him running. And we were like, oh, that's so cool. And he goes, yeah, there's a whole bunch of people running with me.

I just took them out. Right. And I go, what? Yeah, exactly. He sent the other picture. And it was like, that's amazing. It looked like he's running by himself. Like he's at this moment by himself.

And he was like, no, on the phone, it just said, I just circled them and they went away. And it was like, that's so interesting. Yeah, Kanata. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, that's so interesting. but also like is, is it a, I mean, it is ostensibly a better picture of him because it's like just him and not like five strangers in the back also running a marathon. But it's, but it's that thing. It's like, that's the perfect version of that moment.

I know. But that's not the moment that happened. Well, the funny thing is I was in Las Vegas to see my sister and I had the new Google phone with Gemini and I just got the new pixel. And it has this mode where you can take a photo of two people standing next each other and then you can have one of them leave the photo, hand them the phone and then they'll take the photo of you standing. in and it puts all of you together even though you weren't even though you had an original photo yeah yeah and what they're saying is and I get why engineers are creating this

they're saying oh there's so many times where you want to take a group photo but there's nobody around yeah it's like no there are people around you're just too fucking chick in the hand in the phone and ask it's like hey we know you don't want to ask somebody else to take the phone out so this is a way you're like no shit how about connect with another human say hey can you take this photo for us

thank you so much like what happened that we're cutting out all communication Like authentic ways to bond with other humans that we don't know. It's so funny. It really is that thing. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Oh, did he post it on mine?

It was, yeah, on Instagram. Wow. He was just like, I just did it on my phone. Basically, the phone said like, hey, do you want to take these people out? He was like, all right. Let's watch the flop demo. Oh, God, yeah. Good ratings, which don't.

You have to make sure that. Oh, that's my other video. Compatible. Video call. Oh, nice. There we go. He's gone. Well, I.

I, let's see what happened there. Oh, Zach. That's too bad. I don't know what happened. Maybe Buzz can try calling me again. So he tries it four times. Oh, God. But what kills me is actually, I think they lied about why it happened.

So let's watch this last one. Hey, meta, start live AI. Starting live AI. Okay. Okay. I love the setup you have here with soy sauce and other ingredients. How can I help? Hey, can you help me make a Korean-inspired steak sauce from my steak sandwich here?

You can make a Korean-inspired steak sauce using soy sauce, sesame oil. What do I do first? What do I do first? You've already combined the base ingredients. So now create a pair to add to the sauce. to the sauce he's like um what do i do first you've already combined the base and oh my god now great the pair now watch what they say though combine it with the base sauce all right i think the Wi-Fi might be messed up sorry oh the Wi-Fi is messed up he was giving you the wrong

answer yeah yeah it looked at the scene and was and then Zuckerberg goes all the Wi-Fi watch the irony of the whole thing is that you spend years making technology and then the Wi-Fi at the day kind of the Wi-Fi? That's just a lie. Yeah, that there's no way. I said, you've already combined the ingredients. It wasn't like it was like, I can't talk to the internet. It was, it looked at what you had. It didn't understand it. It didn't come back and say network connectivity issues. So, oh, the Wi-Fi. Oh, man, that's brutal. I know. And the other thing, too, is like, it's very interesting. It's, you know, I, well, hold on. He chopped up all the ingredients and he put him in front of himself. Yeah. And then he said, how do I combine it? You have the recipe.

How did you know what to chop up and put in front of you? There were all the dishes of everything chopped up. He had the recipe. Right? I don't know why people are trying to solve the looking at a recipe while cooking issue. Yeah. Like, how is that an issue? People have been cooking via recipes for eons. And yet it's like, we really want to make this a smoother experience. Yeah I don't know Step two, chop up the It's like what, no Just show me where it is

I know It's so funny Although I do think robo cooking I love what The glasses They're good How many times do you wore them Not very many

Have you worn them outside That's the only time I've worn In front of people? Not really very much It's because my sister gave it to me So I'm trying to Oh she's watching No

But I don't want it to Matriculate out to somebody being like Hey he doesn't use them I literally wore them the like first two days. You should eBay that shit now. Why are they like... Because I mean, the new ones are coming out,

that means those are you going to drop in price. Probably get them out and get a little cup on me. That's all right. I'll just try it. I'll just give them away at Starbucks. All right. Somebody will enjoy them. Anyway, I'm just so...

I feel bad for meta because they have been trying this face thing for a long time. Oh my God. They've been trying to put shit on your face for like a decade now. They're like, AR, VR. No, VR. Oh, wait, AR.

Oh, wait. Pictures with family. It's like they're trying anything they can to put shit on your face. That's because, again, they want that time that you have yet to give to a service. They want it because they're not. I mean, look, at the end of the day, like, who's using Facebook? Like, who's on Facebook nowadays? My mom. Yeah, I know, but, like, that's, their issue is everybody.

They got Instagram. Oh, well, that's true. Yeah, I mean, I guess they are Instagram. But also, like. If they had not bought Instagram, by the way, they'd be so fucked right now. Are they threads? Is that matter? No, I don't use that.

No, I don't use any of that. I hate social media. All right. Anyway, unless it's clips from the show, then I love it. That's the way it works. Speaking of stealing time from yourself, what a time to be alive. Samsung confirms that its $1,800-plus dollar fridges will start showing you ads.

So this was submitted by HyperZap. So Samsung's, Samsung has confirmed that its fridge will start showing ads. There was a, because you've seen these fridges with, like, the, like, household. Yeah, they can look at your fridge down and tell you where you're low on. Yep, yep. And they can schedule stuff. You can put it, like, your calendar can be connected.

And there's little things like that. Well, it is now a rolling out a new software update to its family hub refrigerators. And the update adds promotions and advertisements to refrigerators display when it's idle. Do you get a cut of that? No, of course not. And you know what I mean? Like, but how fucking dumb? is that they thought so this this kind of leaked out people saw like in some of the code that they

were like wait a minute i think this is going to be ads and everybody was like no it can't be ads it's a two thousand dollar refrigerator yeah like i get it for like hey we're going to give you a tv or like 150 bucks but when you you know when it's on idle it's going to have ads you're like yeah all right but it's a hundred and fifty dollars right right you expect something like that besides the cost of it but a crazy expensive refrigerator and like why the refrigerator dude like it's just do you have a fridge

that shows you shit on the outside I got with the new with the new kitchen I got just fuck it I don't even have a water dispenser or an ice

dispenser on my fridge like it is just fridge fridge it's a fridge you have a freezer yeah yeah and the freezer does have an ice machine

which is nice because it makes ice but it doesn't do the purifier in there a little screw in ooh you probably would a new one

yeah I think so yeah but we have like one of those like whole home water softener coconut I'm at Husk. I don't know what the fuck.

It is. It's like a fucking super, although it's been broken for six months I've got to call it. Anyway, owning a home sucks. But it's nice. But sometimes you're like,

why is that broken? But how crazy is that? Talk about like stealing time from you. You walk by the kitchen, you're like, seeing a fucking KFC ad in my kitchen? Yeah, it's tough because we have so many devices now.

Yeah. You can't look away from the internet. Like, really, like, no, it's Jason's you. my wife got this freaking dedicated calendar that is like just for kids activities and it's like now when I walk in there's like a calendar just to remind me when to feed them

and it's but it's got that on there she put like lunch and I'm like I know lunch is at noon like you don't have to add that as a recurring like thing you know you got to fill up that calendar I've seen your calendar yeah exactly but it's on there so I feel like that's got to display my water filtration thing has the display now I got the frame TV.

It's got its own little thing I have to pay for or display artwork and shit. I don't know. I just kind of like would like to have less screens. I mean, I don't disagree with you, dude. Yeah, well, the good news is

is like there's plenty of fringes that don't have these things. Yeah, but if anything, people just won't buy this fridge. Although if you had one... That's the thing. It's an update. It's a software update.

That's kind of fucked up. Yeah. That you spend all this money on this fridge. It's got all this cool tech stuff that you're excited about. And then just one day it starts showing ads. Yeah, I think you just

disconnected from the internet at that point, right? But, I mean, some of the ads are probably already downloaded locally. Good point. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think people will push back on this, though. This has to be one of those things that when it gets out wide enough, people be like, yeah, no. And then it kind of, you don't.

It's really funny because, so my little sister and her husband got, they redid their kitchen a while back and they got this new oven and it connects to Wi-Fi. And he was like, and like the brand, it was the first version of it that connected to Wi-Fi and like the motherboard broke and so they couldn't use the oven. And it was like, but it only broke because there's a motherboard now

because you want to connect to Wi-Fi for some app. And I was like, oh yeah, that is a little weird. And then we got, when we redid our kitchen, our thing has Wi-Fi. And I just set it up because I was like, yeah, why not? And now it's like, it's really funny

because I'll set the oven and I'll go do something else and I'll get a notification on my watch that the oven's up the temperature. And I'm like, oh, I do love that. Yeah, yeah. I was like, that is very nice. I had a smoker.

I had a smoker that was one of the Trager smokers. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it would push, it'd be like your meats at temp. And I'm like, oh, that was pretty cool. Yeah. I do like that stuff. All right. Sometimes.

Yeah. Yeah, I have a meter thermometer. I've heard the combustion ink one is really, really good. I haven't gotten it yet. Because it uses AI and three different periods of sensors. So basically, it can tell the outside temperature, the inside temperature, and then deep inside. And then it uses AI to figure out when approximately it will be done. And it's like really good.

And so you can look and be like, oh, in 27 minutes, my chicken will be done. I want to get a really good wood-based grill. Oh, yeah. Like wood, charcoal, like a big green egg kind of thing. Is that good for wood? Not wood. That's charcoal, yeah. Yeah.

I got that made-in one, the little grill box, or grill box. and it's good I feel like I need to get some of that what the fuck charcoal what the fucking charcoal I need to get some of that Japanese like fancy charcoal because it's like

it's such a small amount of room and it's like you go through charcoal a lot so I haven't figured it out yet but there's got to be something good if you have a good wood-based grill that you recommend email us at Dignation at dig.com

yeah email address uh oh look at that I got first time and also if it's a wood-based troll fryer. Yeah, that's right. We've got to play that clip.

Thanks, kidding. Wood-based troll fire. Yeah. We'll send it to you. Wood-based troll fire right now. How's that turkey coming? Looks delicious. It's coming along great, Alex. I just got done slow-basting it over a roasted wood troll fire. What's a troll fire?

We were so dumb back then. Yeah, we loved it. It was great. Anyway, so Samsung TVs. Not that we're in me. I know, yeah. Look at how smart we are. Yeah. yeah. That's it. Are we done? No. Okay, next story. I was like, well, you have a sponsor or you have a story that was sent in by, oh, yes, by Florp? Florp on dig.com. I put a little post saying, hey, what do you want to talk about? Oh, yes. What are the stories you want to talk

about? And actually, most people took to it and said, these are the topics I want to talk about, like more overarching things. Interesting. Okay. So Florp had a topic? This one was really dug up, And he said, you said in an interview, you want the internet fun, make the internet fun again. Do you still think that's possible, given the current climate? And how would you suggest doing that? This is a tough one. Yeah. It has been a hell of a couple weeks, obviously.

I mean, we're also talking, we've been talking throughout this entire episode about this whole specific thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I think really what it comes down to at least what we talk about internally at dig or what Justin is working on is that we want. is that we want to have there be places where people can commune, they can find like-minded individuals, and they can go deep on their weird. Like, what is your version of your weird?

And it turns out your weird is not so weird because there are tens of thousands or hundreds of people that also have said thing. Like Japanese woodworking, if we threw a lasso around everyone the world that cares about it, it'd be in the millions of people, probably low digits, but there would be a big audience. So can we find those like-minded people to come together

and celebrate them when they are having positive impact on a community. It is a very hard task to do because ultimately what happens, what we found out, we've done a bunch of analysis here because we had a lot of people that said, hey, wouldn't it be better if we just banned politics? That was a valid question. Yeah, yeah. Like maybe you just say this isn't the place for politics. But one of the things that we found when we looked at the actual data side is that back on

the old dig, politics was largely confined to two categories, world news and politics. Yeah. And now we have a system where political figures on both sides like to comment about everything. Yeah. And so when you have somebody that is reaching out and has an opinion on the cracker barrel logo, then food is no longer safe as a category. So it is extending into everything.

So what we're kind of working on over the long term is when AI can sit at that intersection and understand the context of all conversations. One of the things that's nice about AI is you can say AI, I want to task you with removing all politics-type banter from my feed. If that is something you want to do. You could also say AI, anytime I see something that is political, give me all perspectives. So it could develop and build a page for you

that is giving you and let you touch on the different perspectives. And, you know, there's, so I think dig needs time. Digne's time to build these features. we want to get to a place where when you come in to dig, you feel that you're connecting with people that you care about that are having positive conversations. And if you want to dabble in the crazier stuff, you can, but at least you have the controls to say,

that's not for me today, that's not for me ever. Whatever it may be, you can dial that up and turn it on or turn it off. It is challenging. It's challenging because we will see that even some of our best contributors can get, obviously, triggered by what's going on in the world around them. and have a bad day where you show up, not the best version of yourself. We don't want to outright ban those people, but we also want to have tools to where

if you don't want to engage with someone or you want to say that's not from my community, you have the guardrails to build, turn that on and say, let's exit out to the side here, right? I mean, it's really great that Dig is coming around in, you know, coming back around in this time period because it has the opportunity to sort of, you know, And it's good that you guys are letting it bake, you know what I mean. And especially with the, you know, current group of users and adding and expanding, you know, bringing other people in. Because you have the opportunity to use these tools that have sort of come out of nowhere. I mean, like I feel like AI, honestly, the quality of and useful AI is like two, three years.

You know what I mean? Like it's not been around for that long. Right. So to be able to utilize that in a way that helps that helps bring people together. a weird way feels like how humanity should be utilizing AI. You know, it's funny, but we talked about this because we found a model that can, with a high degree of accuracy, give you about 15 or 20 different data points in terms of tagging it for different types of conversation.

So it can say this is political, this is hate speech, this is violence, this is about finances, this is about all these different things, and you come back and you get a quality score and all these different metrics, right? And so what that allow you to do is if you can dynamically create feeds in real time, you could say, hey, I want less of this, more of that, which is great. But what's really interesting is in a future version of this, if you can have it come up and kind of really understand, what we almost think of it is like, as you're being onboarded to a new version of dig,

as a new user comes in, let's just say it's January of next year, we open it up and it's available to all users. If you're coming in, we almost think of these categories that are potentially hot button kind of topics. It's more of almost like a closer to not safe for work category. Yeah, yeah. Where we jokingly internally, like called it not safe for brain, like it have its own tag. Yeah.

Where when you join Dig, it can say, okay, here's all these fun topics that we think you'll enjoy. And by the way, do you want to enable this contentious kind of stuff? Do you want to partake in and see this version of Dig? Right? And it's not about it being porn or whatever. It's about being a place where people go to actually have combat. Yeah. And yes, of course.

Mental combat. Well, of course we'll ban the extremes of that. We want to not allow that on the platform. There are plenty of other platforms where people can go and just spout off about everything. But if we can provide them a place where they opt into it, then they'll know that there's a way to opt out of it as well. And I think that's something we're playing around with.

But this all takes, this tooling, hopefully this knock on what, this engineer that I just talked to yesterday, signs. And if he does, then we've pretty much got the team, the go-to-market team that we need. Nice. And I would say, end of this year, early next year, is going to be a really sweet time for dig where a lot of the table stakes features will be out, which is must-haves.

And then more importantly, you'll start to see a trickle of new features where you're like, ah, that's why it's different than Reddit. That's why it's unique. That's why it's special. It's going to take a few more months to get there. But that's what they're working on. That's so cool. Dude, it's going to be so great.

I'm super excited. Yeah, it'll be fun. I mean, it's all, what I've told the team and what Justin Hamer's home is CEO is, you know, it's on us to create a nimble platform where we can try and experiment with call it 10 to 15 things over the next call it 12 to 18 months from now three or four of those are going to be fucking awesome and everyone's going to be like damn those are amazing yeah yeah three or four of them we're going to be like oh my god it didn't work let's do another revision of it no it didn't work let's rip it out yep yep and then some of them will just straight up fail and that's

fine but that's what you want you want that rapid experimentation and to push things forward and that's what the team is hoping to do over the next 18 months. That's so cool, dude. I'm super excited. I mean, it's been fun. I mean, shit, it's been fun just doing the show again. You know what I mean? Oh, for sure.

Oh, by the way, I totally forgot at the beginning of the show. I was going to say, because somebody had mentioned in the slash Dignation community on Dig. They were like, oh, I wish there was a place we could see this on, like, you know, you should syndicate this out into, like, Spotify and like all this thing. We are. So if you are seeing this on, I mean, now way, deep into the episode on YouTube and you want to hear an audio version. We have them. They are available. It is out. Oh, there's a video version. Yeah, it's a feature. Oh, that's great.

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I'm literally going to sign up when I get home because I'm done with all this. Hooha, as they say. All right, next story. Doorbell prankster that tormented residents in a German apartment's turned out to be a slug. This was submitted by Et Dion. I love this story for many reasons,

mostly because it involves a slug. But also, it gives me an opportunity to talk about the time-honored tradition. of being a kid out in the world, right? Like we talked about like going outside being punishment now. So what happened was there was a block of apartments and you know they have like the doorbell buzzers

for each of the apartments? So one night, all of a sudden, everybody's apartment started to get doorbell ditched. And they started calling the police because they were like, there's some teens out here that are fucking with this entire apartment block. Because they would look on the camera

and there was nobody there. Yeah. And it was like, and it was going apartment by apartment. So it was like one apartment would just be like, ring, ring, ring. And then they would be like, what, what's going on? Hello? Hello? And nothing. And then the next apartment ring, ring, ring. And when the police came, they found that there was a slug that was just going back and forth up and down on the call buttons and ringing all the apartments. This is amazing. Isn't this the best? I mean, it's because it feels like the old news we used to get.

I remember an Anchorman where they're like, look at that chipmunk on the water skis. It used to be like the best shape where you'd be like, oh, it's so cool. It's a squirrel water ski guy. I remember that from way back of the day. But this is the type of thing that makes you go, first off, I love the idea that there's like old German men shaking their fists at the teens outside,

and it turns out to just be a random slug. That's awesome. But do you see that? There's a video of this kid going up and ringing a doorbell and just about to leave. Oh, he got caught. And he got caught. And he froze.

And he froze. And he was like, my dad told me that it was. was part of my childhood tradition, and she was like, what are you talking about? And then you see this guy just sprinting dad, and he was like, just run, buddy, just run. He's like, okay, I got to go, sorry. And he runs. And he was like, the stuff that we did is kids. Oh, my God.

Just going through the neighborhood. Did you toilet paper people? I didn't. You didn't? I don't think so. Oh, we got to do that tonight, dude. You've never done that? I don't think so.

Oh, did I must have done it at least once. So you take toilet paper and you get a little string and then you throw it over. trees and you just keep doing it over and over again and they come out and they have like a christmas tree style it's like a little bit nicer than an egging oh yeah egging would always get like hard and oh i egged a ton of people oh i can so see you doing that is your egg people i didn't know what the fuck i was a nice kid oh good oh god you're like it's not just me well i mean egging was kind of like it was kind of like the door you know we used to like you take shit and you put it in the bag and then you light it on fire and then you ring the doorbell

or not happy gilmore what's the one we used to do this for real oh i did my buddy joey sorry joey for watching this uh at least you're doing it to your friends he's a very nice real estate guy now we actually put shit in some bag and we lit it on fire and then we rain the doorbell because you come out and then they stomp on it to put it out oh my god heaven uh maybe it's better that children i also put joey's hand in warm water and he pissed himself in our sleeping bag should you not. That was so bad. It actually works.

Yeah, Joey and I got a bunch of fights. We didn't like each other. He goes by Joe now, but we didn't like each other. Why were you hanging out so much then? He was my neighbor, and he kind of moved in late, so he kind of felt like a threat because the other kids were, and then. It's always hard. We just didn't quite click, and now he's a good dude.

It's just like, we were just dumb. Oh, my God. He punched me in the face one time, completely. Out of nowhere. Well, we were kind of getting each other's face, and he, punch me in the face. I was much smaller than him. And he knocked my teeth where I had like some loose teeth like in the bottom row. But what was funny is he hit me in the face and I went down and then I kicked him in the balls and he dropped. And my dad came out and was like,

what's going on here? And he like broke us up, blah, blah, blah. And Joe was like twice my size. And my friend Travis comes over and he's like, yeah, they got in a fight blah, blah. And then Kevin like kicked him balls, blah. And my dad's like, does he hurt him? And he's like, okay, just go in the backyard. Like I didn't get in trouble. Like, I was kind of proud that I, like, defending myself. Because I was a little grunt. I was a very small boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, I just feel like the kids, it's so funny kids nowadays is I feel like such an, oh, it's like old man river. I'm doing the thing. It's just I feel bad. Although I do feel good because, like, I like to play video games with my friends. And I don't play video games by myself as much as I play video games when I'm playing with friends. And it feels like I'm hanging out with my friends. When you play video games with them. Yeah, yeah.

So I feel like it's, it's, it's, there is. something to being able to connect with your friends on a regular basis without having to go and you can have friends that are in different cities like I remember when I moved I changed cities

or towns or whatever the fuck and it was only like 25 minutes away but that felt like a year away when you're like 13 you know what I mean or 12 and so I wouldn't see my friends that were in my neighborhood that often and it was like if we were playing video games together I could just be like great we'll just hop on fortnight or hop on Roblox or whatever

Right. Do you play in Roblox now? No, I'm just saying when children play it. I don't even play Fortnite. I want to play that new game there. Everyone was talking about. It was like, it didn't come out for like 10 years and then it finally came out.

You don't talk about Justin's all excited about it. Oh, do you mean Hollow Night? Silk. Silk? Silk. Silk. Silk Song. Yeah.

Is it good? I don't know. I haven't played it. I can't want to play. I don't play. Single player games unless it's like couch co-op. I can't. I just don't.

Hollow Night Silk Song. Yeah, Holonite Silk Song. It's supposedly really hard. Yeah, I heard that. Looks gorgeous, though. They have it for the new Switch, too. Oh, did you get a new Switch? I did.

I got the Switch, too, yeah. Oh, you should tell you. I mean, it's so good for the kids. They love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that. I get that. All right. We have been talking for a long time, now.

How long? Last story? Have we been talking? Or none. Oh, great. Done. My last story was okay. We'll say for next time.

Perfect. I love it. Guys, thank you for coming to Kevin's new additional dwelling unit. or an obscure accoutrement dwelling unit. That is it for this week's edition of Dignation. I'm Alex Albrecht. I'm Kevin Rose.

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