Diggnation (rebooted) - Bitcoin Hits ATH, Tron 3 Leaks, & Mike Tyson vs AI| EP 006 | Diggnation

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

Welcome back to Diggnation Reboot Episode 6! This week, Alex and Kevin talk about Bitcoin breaking $90k and MicroStrategy’s stock hitting an all-time high. Is holding onto Bitcoin still the move, or are you better off cashing out? Meanwhile, Mike Tyson and Jake Paul finally went head-to-head last week, and Tyson’s punch power is straight-up unreal (think: 13 kicks to the nuts-level impact).We’re also unpacking the next big thing for EVs: silicon-based batteries that promise double the range and faster charging. Plus, Amazon is shutting down Freevee (RIP another streamer), and we can’t get over the rumor that Zuck and T-Pain might actually be making an album together. And if that’s not enough, a live-action Zelda movie is officially happening, and Tron 3 footage just teased real-world light cycles.Towards the end of the episode, Alex and Kevin share a heartfelt conversation about male depression, loneliness, and why maintaining close friendships matters more than ever. It’s an honest and genuine moment that’s worth sticking around for.Get ready for a laid-back mix of tech talk, hilarious takes, nostalgia, and a touch of real talk to keep it grounded.📌 Chapter Markers0:00 – Intro and Alex’s 90s Goatee02:19 – Bitcoin Hits $90k and MicroStrategy Soars22:18 – Tyson vs. Jake Paul Fight Prep26:48 – Silicon-Based EV Batteries: A Revolution?38:57 – Zuck and T-Pain: The Album Collab?42:42 – Amazon Shuts Down Freevee52:10 – Zelda Movie + Tron 3 Trailer Hype1:01:54 – Mattel’s Packaging Fail and Claude AI’s Boredom1:10:41 - Claude gets bored1:28:42 - Male lonelinessPeople and Things We Talked AboutMicroStrategy (Bitcoin News)Website: https://www.microstrategy.comRelated Story: https://decrypt.co/291156/microstrategy-stock-all-time-high-bitcoin-88kMike Tyson vs. Jake Paul Fight DetailsFight Info: https://www.perplexity.ai/page/tyson-paul-fight-details-SXO4xQLwQbKyo5uKVn1SWwBlockFi (Bitcoin Interest)Website: https://blockfi.comCoinbase (Bitcoin Trading)Website: https://www.coinbase.comPerplexity AI (AI Tool Mention)Website: https://www.perplexity.aiSilicon EV Battery ResearchResearch Info: https://interestingengineering.com/transportation/silicon-anodes-ev-batteries-raceRelated Story: https://interestingengineering.com/transportation/silicon-anodes-ev-batteries-raceAmazon Freevee ClosureFreevee Info: https://www.amazon.com/adlp/freeveeRelated Story: https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/amazon-freevee-shutting-down-1236208451/Zelda Movie AnnouncementMovie Info: https://www.perplexity.ai/page/zelda-movie-coming-soon-v330lmbTRqCSVONOTAF1RgTron 3 Trailer RumorsTrailer Info: https://x.com/CineGeekNews/status/1855029342633435615Mattel's Packaging ErrorWebsite: https://www.mattel.comLetterboxd (Movie-Watching Social Media)Website: https://letterboxd.comShare your Letterboxd username in the comments so we can follow along with your movie lists!Website: https://www.mattel.com🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0bzwpvUwHNLiGqlcTCBKJZ?si=8da8435d747d4fb9📱 Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thediggnation📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thediggnationDon't forget to like, subscribe, and leave your thoughts in the comments!

Nobody from the government listens to this right? Have you ever watched Shed In The Dark, Wham? Hahaha! I can't talk about that. This is a show that covers a lot of the fringy, weird, a little bit of everything around the internet as found on various social news sites. The genie is out of the bottle

and more and more governments are gonna put this on their books. Who's the fucking laughing stock now, dicks? You're definitely the more dominant one with the good teeth. I feel a little like, hey... First off, nobody's just standing in the fucking flight school at a zombie apocalypse like, guys, don't take the plans. I love a little bit of horror.

Horror? Horror? It's the best Star Wars. Really? Yes. There's a male depression epidemic. If you knew that you could trust the men around the table to not judge you, not try and fix you, but just listen to you and support you.

Yeah. Welcome to Dig Nation. Also potentially hazardous to your health. All right, moving on. Why do you have flies in your freaking house? to your house. All right, moving on. Why do you have flies in your freaking house? I noticed this earlier. It's Southern California and I have fruit. You put zombie and you put ear in the title

and I don't want to do it. Dignation.com Hello everybody and welcome to the Dignation Reboot episode number six. I'm Alex Albrecht and yes, I am currently rocking a goatee in remembrance of my time in the 90s. It's a new world. It is.

Welcome to the show. This is a show that covers a lot of the fringy, weird, outrageous, technology-driven, technology, hint of technology, a little bit of everything around the internet as found on various social news sites, sometimes on dig.com. That's correct and this is Kevin Rose because he neglected to mention. Yes, I do say that. Nice to meet you. So not a lot of stuff going on this week. Pretty tame week. Yeah, it's pretty normal. Nothing really big happening. Really average week. This is just a standard, standard week. So we here at Dignation are just going to do our standard show.

Yes. For everybody out there because that's what we're here for. For everyone. Speaking of no reason for anything to have happened, our first story. This is nuts. Micro strategy stock hits all time high as Bitcoin breaks 90,000. Yes. So Bitcoin, for no apparent reason, has really skyrocketed, breaking all-time highs.

I think currently right now, we're recording what? On like Wednesday, it's like, I think 89k. Yeah, it broke 90k for a hot minute there. It was 94 this morning when I woke Wednesday. It's like I think 89 K. Yeah broke 90 K for a hot minute there It was 94 this morning when I woke up. It's so crazy the hell is going a little over 90 K right now Yeah, so I like a lot of people had no idea what Micro-strategy was but a couple days after Bitcoin was starting to really kind of creep up they bought like two billion billion worth of Bitcoin. And I looked into them, so they've been around since like,

89 I think. They started at, I mean, they still do sort of like business information technology stuff, so they're, you know, software that helps businesses be better at business-ing. And they've done that a lot. All the, funny enough, started in Wilmington, Delaware, moved to Tyson's Corner, Virginia,

which is where I grew up. So I was like, oh. And at the time that I was there, so it's super weird, I was like, oh my God, I wonder if like- And you never even heard of them. I've never heard of them. Well, they're probably a lot smaller. I mean, they've-

They're very B2B, and you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they started, I think it was angel.com or- Oh, is it really? It was angel? Some.com that they started in the middle. They've been known for buying a Bitcoin now for a long time.

I mean, long time as in years now, they've been buying a Bitcoin. Yeah, starting in like 2018, 2017, something like that, they started going, hey, we have all this capital coming in. And obviously as tech people, I mean, you know, we I mean, shit, this is the funny thing is like we're talking about a story about Bitcoin. I would love to go back and see the first time

that we ever mentioned Bitcoin on Dignation. Do we talk about Dignation? We talked about it so many fucking times. Are you serious? Oh, my God. We talked about it. That's right. Yeah, we talked about it when we were getting emails of people that were paying 30, 40, 50 Bitcoin for a fucking times. Are you serious? Oh my god. We talked about it. That's right. Yeah We talked about it when we were getting emails of people that were paying 30 40 50 Bitcoin for a fucking pizza Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we've like send us an email if you remember a little segments if you can find our first mention We have been talking about it for millennia. Let's just say millennia and I've been in and out of Bitcoin

Many times I think most recently and we might have even talked about this on the reboot shows But I had my handful of coin at block fi Yeah, which is okay cuz I got it all back. Yeah, but you know, I had no idea I had no idea and I was like and at the time it was like you were getting interest on it and shit Right, dude, it was my cash back. Oh, that's right. It's my fucking 2% cash back in Bitcoin. Yeah Right. You told me about it. He was like I was like what credit card we were talking I was at one of your parties. I know and I was like a lot of people about I was like what could I like? What's my credit card? I have points like cuz I don't know how to do the fucking points and Chris is like a ninja with That shit. Yeah, I have so many points and I'm like, I just, I don't care.

Somebody, like somebody make a website where I can just put in my points and then they can go, do you wanna go to Bolivia for a day or some shit? I mean, maybe, I can't find it. Make it easy. But anyway, he said BlockFi, you know, getting your percentage back in Bitcoins, it was great. And by the way, fucking amazing conversation starter,

every restaurant, give them the credit card and the guy comes back or the girl comes back and goes, so is that like a Bitcoin credit card? And I was like, well, sit down, let me tell you about this. Right, you bankrupt like a thousand people. My friend's buddy at a party told me this is the best thing to do. So I did it and I love it, it's great.

And I made it. You probably onboarded like a thousand people that are now big because of you Yeah, listen I had the fucking FTX founder on my podcast. Oh my god, that's crazy. Yeah. Yeah He was on there and he seemed legit, you know, and I was always like I Don't know you're nice guy, you play video games? Like, that's the, that's it. No nothing about banking? Oh, you play video games?

Well, come on this guy. He was a nice enough guy, but like, it is really weird. I have two people, him and Do Kwan, they created that stable coin. Yeah. And I had two people that are now either on the run or in jail on my podcast. That is amazing First off in the now version of podcasts. That's actually amazing

Like that's something you could put in your Wikipedia in the night now version of podcasting Did you nothing okay, okay, so juicy so now check it out Pretty tame wasn't he? He was pretty tame. Yeah. He's not going to come on and be like, so it's a total pond scheme. I gave my girlfriend $70 billion. But hey, everybody keep on coming. It's all fine. Nobody from the government listens to this, right?

I almost invested though. Like I was looking at it and well, the thing is like they were one of the first to embrace Solana, which is one of the up and coming coins. And they were known as like the place to go and trade Solana. And Solana was founded in Solana Beach, right down the street. And like San Diego, right? Isn't that why they called it Solana? They called it that, but like, I think they...

I feel like they were in the SoCal area. When I first met Toli, who's the founder, he was in SF. And he was ex-Motorola. Qualcomm. Ex-Qualcomm. Oh, that's San Diego. And is it San Diego? Yeah, San Diego, Qualcomm. Ex-Qualcomm. Oh, well that's San Diego. And is it San Diego? Yeah, San Diego. Okay, so that makes sense.

Yeah, so. So here's the thing that I've, I think I've talked about this on many, many podcasts and I will say that I changed my tune a little bit. But my thing that I was gonna say was, I was in this mindset of like, okay, when it comes to Bitcoin, I'm gonna hold my Bitcoin until I have a million dollars worth of Bitcoin. Okay. Then I'm gonna say was yeah, I was in this mindset of like, okay when it comes to Bitcoin Yeah, I'm gonna hold my Bitcoin until I have a million dollars worth of Bitcoin

Okay, then I'm gonna sell half and then I'm gonna hold my Bitcoin until I have a million dollars worth of bill my god I did that I'm gonna sell half and I have the wife and the whole thing is that sounds so stupid right now at 90,000 clients like what the fuck but had I done that since the beginning I'd be rolling in many many many millions Here's where it changed. My buddy Jerry were playing video games and I was like, dude Bitcoin, fuck dude it's up to like 27 grand a coin. I made this is I've made so much money today and he was like, yeah you didn't. And I was like, no I did, I got all this money and he was like, who has the accent you or Jerry? Jerry. I mean neither of us but just okay illustrative process the accent

Was who against the Jerry's like yeah, it's like money. No, I was like, oh, I guess I had the accent anyway I know a lot of people were saying things but I was telling my buddy. Oh my god. I'm so excited because I made so much fucking money That was me. This is me now and then my buddy Jerry was like knighted and I was like no I did dude Look, it's like you could I show you that the receipts and she He's like, nope, you can't he's like there's no such thing as receipts You're saying receipts receipts and also not applicable not applicable. I'll show you my transaction history So I realized I'm I've only ever I've never spent my Bitcoin on anything

I've only ever kept I've never spent my Bitcoin on anything. I've only ever kept Bitcoin and lost Bitcoin. Who buys shit with Bitcoin? No, but I mean, I've- Who the fuck, like, you know, I'm in this grocery store buying shit with Bitcoin. Well, guess what? You can. I know you can get those cards,

but nobody does that shit. No, not the cards. You know how easy it is to, like, send Bitcoin to Coinbase, liquidate, and send your bank account? Have you ever bought shit on the dark web? I don't even, you gotta tell me about the dark web. I gotta show you about some dark web. Yeah, I mean I know about it, like the.

It's dark, it's dark. The dark, I know where it is. Have you ever been out there? I don't think so. Oh, you should see it, it's cool. Okay, well this will be great. But you have to use it to get your shit. Next episode we'll tell you what deep shit he should.

Anyway, long story short. I told her, look, I want my fees. I decided that I would use this money that I got back from BlockFi that I did not think I would get back and that I would use that money to do shit. So like, we're redoing our kitchen. And I'm paying for it in Bitcoin. This is like a year ago or whatever. Yeah, this was like maybe two years ago.

Oh, but the best thing is the thing with Bitcoin is because it keeps going up, every time I fucking do something, I have the same amount of money worth of Bitcoin in like two months. Yeah, but you're not doing the math. I know. I always did the math and then I never had the money. So what I want to do is the math with some money. I want the new kitchen. Right. And then I'll have some money. But also you could also if you had just kept the coin, you could probably have five new kitchens at this point.

Bro, if I had not got a new kitchen and invested that money in coin and then held that coin for five years, I would have time enough money to buy ten kitchens. Yeah. But the point is my buddy Jerry was correct. I did not have made any monies unless I sell. So I just started doing that. I was like, you know, this five grand, like I wanna get a new couch, a Bitcoin couch. Now did you pay tax on that?

I mean, I will when it's tax time. I'm not gonna not pay tax. Where'd you sell it at? Coinbase. Okay, okay, you have to then, yeah. First off, I'm not like going on Facebook. Where'd you sell it at? Coinbase. Okay, you have to then, yeah. First off, I'm not going on Facebook Marketplace and being like, hey, people do that shit, dude. I wanna sell some Bitcoin, but give me cash. People do that.

Of course they fucking do that. They bring me like gold bullion and shit, and I go, gold bullion. They said that Bitcoin now has surpassed the value of silver. It's now the eighth highest value asset you can hold. That's so cool. Is that nuts? Okay, let me chime in now. Okay, chime chime.

Here's my chime. My chime is that I like you. If you go back and look at my tweets over the last freaking, since 2012 was the first time I think I tweeted about Bitcoin. 2011, whatever it came out. And I was like, dude, I'm so stoked. You hit $100. And of course I was like, I paid 10, you know?

I fucking like bought like a grand worth or whatever. I hit 100. I'm like, I'm fucking out. That was great. Of course. Dude, I remember the fucking restaurant. You brought a thumb drive with your Bitcoin on it to LA because you were worried it was gonna like get fucked up. And you were at, we were at dinner.

Remember you, the two of us had dinner. And you were like, I got this fucking money and it just hit, oh my God. And then of course the next day, you liquidated. I had that wallet, hold on, let me see. Was it 90,000 now? I know how much that is worth. Oh my God, Jesus.

I had 145 Bitcoin on that wallet and it's worth 13 million today I saw we have to do wait, but nobody wants the way I mean, I literally was just saying I'm not so here's where I Flipped doing the thing. Here's why I flipped I have realized now that What is happening and we've seen the little hints and bits this and I've tweeted about this years ago But now I'm actually starting to see it actually happen. Whereas the governments are buying and holding, sometimes secretively, sometimes.

Oh yeah, is it Argentina? Argentina has a bunch. Who's the one that has a public about it? The president just came out and was like, who's the fucking laughing stock now, dicks? Dude, he, he, GDP! Exactly, exactly. But just in Spanish.

Exactly, oh, by the way, Addison's here. Oh yeah! So if you saw somebody wandering in the background, Addison But just in Spanish. Exactly. Oh, by the way, Addison's here. Oh yeah! So if you saw somebody wandering in the background, Addison, pick studio.ai, use coupon code Kemerozer20% off. I'm just kidding, but I think that might work. First sponsor! First sponsor! That technically would have been our first sponsor.

Oh yeah! And then people go and it's like, the coupon code doesn't work, fuck you, kid. Exactly, exactly. He charges them more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, okay, so... We should totally do that. Just like, who charges them more? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, okay, so we should totally do that.

Just like, see how many dumb people. There's a lot of smart people. Everybody's smart out there. Everybody's smart. So basically, the champagne just went straight to my head out of nowhere. That's literally its job. Its job.

So I flipped though, and for some reason, I have like realized, shit, okay, if you had to project out 20 years from now, this is no longer a fad. Clearly. It's no longer... The genie is out of the bottle. It is going to be used more and more as a decentralized, non-pegged government, fixed quantity, non-inflationary asset, reserve currency, and more and more governments

are gonna put this on their books. There's only fucking 21 million coins. Like dude, so I'm gone from looking at the price actually, to like, oh, this is just a part of my portfolio forever as a hedge against inflation. Oh That's an interesting way to do about it. We are printing shit tons of money And I don't care what administration are talking about like it's happening all the time And Bitcoin is that hedge, you know, and it's also that portable hedge. So are you? Oh, it's a portable hedge

You mean like it's like you can bring your privacy screen to your own party, if I need to go to a different country, I'm taking my hedge. Yeah, you take your fucking unroot that shit and take it to Puerto Rico. Exactly. Plant it in my new yard. What? Let me ask you this then, please. You're not looking at the price is your job, but you are.

But if you're not, but you are, is your goal then to have a set number of coin? Yes, my goal right now, so back in the day, it was 2% of my overall portfolio, so 2% of net worth, okay? And that can mean whatever that means to you. I am now in the like 5% to 10% camp, which is high. But it's high, but it's not really that high. Unless you need access to it. But then you have access but it's not really that... It's not really that high. Unless you need access to it.

But then you have access to it, because you can sell it. That's why you have access to it. But I mean, like, actually it's probably more access than, like, my guy. Like, I got to call JP Morgan and be like, hey, I need some capital. Could you sell some stuff? Let me give you the extra crazy shit. Which, by the way, I love my guy JP Morgan. I don't know why I made him sound like an idiot.

He's got all my money. So I trust him. He's watching. He's like, fuck that guy. Love you, Kevin. All right, is his name Kevin? Yeah. Oh, that's nice.

So here's the deal, dude. Check this shit out. By the way, that's dangerous. So I know it's dangerous. Everybody freaks out when I do this. I'm freaking out. I know other places to fucking put it. You know what?

I know what it is. Okay. I'm gonna get us some gifts for next time. Okay. I'm gonna get us some gifts. Listen. Oh, speaking of gonna get some listen. Oh speaking of which you're wearing your Crocs. Oh, they feel good. They fucking I love these things. Yeah Okay, that was Moving on You're not watching the nation did bro By the way, that's enough

Set up some autonomous Exactly Kevin. It's fucking hot in here. I know I got to turn down the air. You're the one Can you set it set to 420? He said the said is something stupid. Okay, so here's the deal like What I did with my 401k or sorry my IRA Turn it off for a cop icon icon mode down there. It's dinner cool There's a thing that says cool or econ you want to turn on cool mode. How do you how's it not? Yeah, I did 78

We don't only cool down, because nobody's down here. We're just going to go to cool mode. Thank you. Okay, okay, okay. So here's the deal. It's like a fucking married couple. Not exactly, but like an old haggled married couple. With a goatee.

You're definitely... The goatee's right, the goatee's right. You're definitely the more dominant one with the goatee. I gotta say... It was a power move. I feel a little... Power move. You're definitely more dominant one with the goatee. I gotta say. It was a power move. I feel a little like, hey, you can take me. All right, Kevin.

Okay, so listen. Talk about your IRA. No, what I do with the 401CF with IRA is I sold all of my stocks in my IRA and bought EZBC, which is Franklin Templeton's Bitcoin ETF. And the reason I did that is because of the lowest cost ETF in terms of like how much they charge you per year. So you're not actually holding Bitcoin, you're just tracking.

This is my retirement account. Oh, right, oh right. So you get tax free distributions when you retire. So you just let that compound do all its shit, and then it's like, so I'm 100% Bitcoin in my retirement account. That's your entire retirement account? Yeah, dog. I mean, let's go.

Dude, we are going. We are going. Anyway, 90k's nuts. It's, it's... I mean, it's crazy because like... I mean, I guess I've always been... I always say this, and I know I've said this before, I hate to be a broken record, but it's a good record. It's my favorite.

When Bitcoin was at 20 bucks, saying Bitcoin was gonna go to 100 bucks was ridiculous. Absurd, laughable. When Bitcoin was 100, saying it's gonna go to 1,000, I mean, I remember these milestones where it was like, well, it'll never break 1,000. Oh, that's ridiculous. Now it's poison, whoa, that's got a funk.

That smells like beef jerky. I haven't brought this for us. I'm very interested to see. It's pickle beer, it's child's beer? No, this is why I brought up child's beer. It changes your pee to blue. Changes your pee to blue. Ooh, god damn it.

You don't like it? Why did you bring me pickle beer? It's all different. This is the Rage pickle beer? Donnas was backstage at the garden eating pickle contest and created a beer. I will say my buddy tried the Coke with pickle juice.

It grows on you. Coke with pickle juice. Yeah. And he was like, this is actually good. Like with like something in it? No, just Coke. No, just Coke. It was like a thing that people are... Hold on, I got it.

God damn it! There you go, I got it. Well hold on, you got to try one of these pickle beers first. Yeah, well cracka cracka cracka. I mean maybe... I do love... You're mixing wine with first. Yeah, well cracka cracka cracka. I mean, maybe you can fix wine. I do love. You're mixing wine with pickles. Yeah, you can't mix wine with pickles.

Yeah, that's not how it works. Yeah, that's the point. I will say, well first off, challenge accepted. Secondly, I'm gonna get a new computer. Oh yeah, you're still having shit. So, the other thing is that I have, for many many many many many many years years been the person who tries to convince people because it's awesome to eat peanut butter and pickles.

It is the fucking best snack. Thank you. It's the best snack. It's sweet with the peanuts that are like sweet and salty but then there's that hit of the sour from the brrraaim. That sounds horrible by the way. It's so good. I've literally given it to so many people and converted them. Every single girlfriend. Hey, let's shoot an episode of your house. Yeah! We used to shoot episodes there.

Bro, anytime! It'd be really cool to have like, do you still have the same couch? No. Oh wait. No. Wait! Do you really? No.

I mean, dude, that was fucking 12 years ago. Yeah, that's right. If I had the same couch, you'd be like, oh, you should get rid of this couch. That's fair, that's fair. It was already kind of haggled by the... Oh, well that one was 20 years old. Yeah. The fucking from like Pampa or like fucking Pier 1 imports.

Try this, try this first of all. Give it a shot. Should I smell it? No, just go straight in. Okay, here we go. And... Beer Advocate rating at one out of ten. Oh, that's delightful. Really?

Oh my god. Nice job. What's the ABV on this stuff? I don't... Four and a half. See, I don't drink anything under seven. Well, I just like... What are you doing then?

You're just like, eh. I mean, I will say I'm going to continue drinking wine. Sure. Because I'm not in the mood for a beer right now. Yeah. But I will say this is something I'm going to buy and I'm going to bring to like beach parties, lake parties. By the way, pickle chips. Have you had pickle chips?

I do like those. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Spicy dill pickle chips. Yeah. Fucking great. So I'm on board with Donna's Pickle Chip. If you'd like to sponsor Donna's, please reach out to... The email address that Kevin forgets all the time. Okay, all right. Check. Here we go. Next story. Next story. This is an important one So we're that was an important one. I agreed keep Tyson funny and Jake Paul. So it's funny. This was ox, dude

I'm actually traveling. I'm traveling to Arizona That doesn't count. How does not being in your home not count as travel? You can watch this. I'm gonna be in Paris Oh, yeah Paris I checked the time, so here's the deal. It starts at 2am, and by the time he comes on, it's gonna be like 2 hours later, right? 3 hours of fucking things. Well, I just wake up early.

And just fucking watch it. I need to watch this fight though, dude. We need to talk about this. So I did some research. This was literally the thing that we talked. This was on the reunion show before we even decided to start doing this on the regs. I use perplexity. It could be a thing.

And they're not a sponsor, but they might actually wanna be. Oh, who is perplexity, what's perplexity? Perplexity is this AI tool, do you never use perplexity? You are my AI guru, I try things. I fucking give away three point something million dollars of perplexity codes on my newsletter last week. Bro, send me the fucking thing, thank you.

I'll send you a code, you get free here, $200 free. Here's the deal, 14 ounce gloves, which are more sparring gloves. So it's like more surface area, less damage. But I did a little research on perplexity, and I'm not joking, I did actually use that. It's not an ad, fucking fuck you if you think it is. No, no, don't fuck you, but like, it's not.

Don't fuck you, and also, if it wasn't ads, that's also good, and perplexity, call us, because we need to start doing some ads. We're gonna start doing that soon. Yeah. All right, so, the scientific studies that have been done on Tyson Punches, even today, Oh my God.

can generate around 1600 joules of force, or, That sounds like a lot of joules. 1300 to 1400 pounds of force. So, a rough, a rough, and I'm not making this up, this is fucking AI, a rough full force kick to the nuts is about 100 joules of force. Okay. That is very minimal joules to the joules to make me die.

So hold on, hold on, now listen to this. So I asked Perplexity, what is this compared to? Like what would you say a punch with that many joules of force? Like, what would you say a punch with that many jewels of force? Like, what does it mean? So it's equivalent of being hit by a Vespa scooter going nine miles an hour, which doesn't sound bad, but hold on, let me keep going. OK, it is being shot.

That's bad in general. It's already bad. Being shot by this is so AI being shot by 13 people using 22 caliber pistols while wearing a flak jacket. Wait, 13 people shoot you at the exact same time with a 20 caliber. First off, being shot with 22s. But 13. Flak jacket though on 2.

Oh boy. A flak jacket. Yeah, not a track jacket. Track jacket though, on two. Oh boy. A flak jacket. Flak jacket. Yeah, not a track jacket. Track jacket, you can be dead. Yeah. Bulletproof. Flak jacket's like bulletproof.

Okay. Let's be dispersing those. I've heard someone shooting, what the fuck in track jacket? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. AI is just showing you like all the Guy Ritchie movies. It's 13 guys with flak jackets. Lined up in one.

Yeah. If you were in 13 scenes in a Guy Ritchie movie and everybody had a 22, this was the most relevant to me. where I would know where I felt like oh, I can feel that okay, okay? It's like falling from seven feet of a tall ladder and landing sideways on concrete oh Yeah, that's like that's when he hits with full force. Oh Yeah, that's the word. what he hits with full force. Oh Yeah, that's good. Imagine the air. Yeah leaving your body. Yes now. This is equivalent of

13 strong kicks to the nuts simultaneously 13 first off. I'm nervous that perplexity keeps talking about getting kicked in the nuts. To be fair. Perplexity is like, I mean, a human only knows getting swiftly kicked in the nuts. To be fair, I did encourage Perplexity. Oh, you were like. Give me more nut-related content. Explain it to me like I have only nuts and I'm receiving many kicks.

Well, it also pointed out how many nerves I have in my nuts. Oh. And it was giving me a nerve to nut ratio. AI is crazy. Like, what it can do. I have a feeling it was the user, not the tool. But go ahead. I'm all I'm saying.

With me, with like nuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Explain it to me like I have balls that get hit often. Fuck it, it'd be great. I want to test on the show. We should have a test on the show at some point. Yes, Kevin. We should have Mike Tyson on the show. I point. Yes, Kevin, we should have Mike Tyson on the show.

I concur. Go ahead, next story. OK. Silicon-based EV batteries promise twice the range, improved safety, and fast charging. So there's, I don't want to call it an arms race, because that's got negative connotation. Silicon or silicon?

Silicon, silicon, Silicon, Silicon Valley? It's based on the same? Silicon Valley. One is made for, and the other is like... What is hoo hoo? No, no, silicone is fake boobs. Silicon... I didn't know what you were saying. The one that's not fake boobs. I don't think it's going to be like, wait, we just realized all this shit we've been using to make boobs bigger can make electric cars go faster. This is so great. Why didn't anybody try to put electricity through these boobs?

And it all took place. One woman was walking through the desert, shocked by electricity, came out of it, and then shocked a bunch of people and they were like, Dude, those boobs hold that charge? This could be a thing! The way the world is going with all the weird shit that's happening in this place, this would not surprise me. We're like, fake boobs for our cars, and they're like, what the fuck is the problem? Who else is in the bingo car this year? Like, fuck it. I'm kidding.

I'm kidding. Fake boobs power car. By the way, if I get a silicon-based thing, I'm gonna be like, you have fake boobs in this. And it makes me fucking, yeah. Okay, let's keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fake boobs, big cargo.

So here's the thing. Right now, there is a bunch of different companies that are all figuring out how to commoditize the next iteration of batteries. Full stop. EV, longer battery life on your phone, longer battery life on your watch, longer battery life on everything

that has a fucking battery, which is everything. But specifically for EVs, what they've realized is that the lithium ion batteries use a graphite anode, and that's part of the sort of makeup of them. It's part of what gives them their longevity and all the sciency, sciency, sciency. That's why you can only put that much charge in your car. Sciencey, sciencey, that's why you can only put that much charge in your car. A company has realized they can replace the graphite anode with a silicon anode, fake boobs. I'm just wondering how much of this is bullshit versus you just like, you actually understand

this shit. Yeah, I read it. I've read the thing. The thing. Okay, keep going, keep going. So, as long as it's just like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, you don't know what you're talking about, do you? I read the thing. Anyway, so the whole, because there's another uh-huh, you don't know what you're talking about, do you? I read the thing.

Anyway, so the whole, because there's another thing with, you've probably heard about like the solid state batteries and stuff like that, so it's like, they're trying to figure out what company is gonna make the sort of version two battery that's gonna be able to sort of come to market. And silicon-based lithium ions is one, might work, but the crazy thing about it is,

if you think about your current car, because, oh, perfect example, so you have a plug-in hybrid. 50 miles of range on the battery. What if that was 100 miles of range on the battery? Doesn't really matter to me. I'm not saying that, yours is a little different. Because I mostly go just like three or four miles

here or there. But for me, I've got a Model Y, by the way before the EPA stepped in and was like, um, that's not the range. It used to be 330, now it's 300 even, which is fine. Because it really is 300, but 600 miles on the charge with this new battery technology. Oh, interesting. That starts to get interesting. Well, there's no more range of anxiety at that point then. So this is the thing. The question I have is, and I've always talked about,

I think the battery technology is gonna get better and better, obviously, you know, Moore's law or whatever. And we're gonna get to a point where you're gonna get, because you can only put so much gas, you can get as efficient as you want, you can only put so much gas in a car. Right. Right, but with the battery, as the efficiency gets more and more and the electric density

and all that stuff, you're gonna get to a point where you're gonna see over thousand mile ranges on cars pretty soon, I think in the next five years. The flippening, it'll be like when they flips over to electric having the advantage versus gas a hundred percent. Yeah a hundred percent You want in five years? I think it'll be here in five years So when is this tech coming to market again? They don't know if this is gonna be the tech that way Or it'll be solid state or it'll be some new, you know chemical compound. The other thing is, here's the thing, and this is what I always talk about.

I love that I just said that. I fucking never talk about this, but whatever. Here's a thing that I'm going to talk about, which is this is where I think AI is going to help us, is the super weird out of the box thinking, where you are gonna get things like, hey the silicone in breasts implants could actually be really conductive.

Have you thought about putting them in batteries? We're already seeing that on the protein discovery side. 100%. I'm on the cancer research side. Yes, yes. I think it's gonna start letting us think outside the box. Because what it's gonna do is it's gonna remove the time

Requirement in in trying Millions and millions of things that make no sense Yes Right like the whole point is as a human you only have so much time on the planet You need to focus your intent and energy into things that you're reasonably assume Will be successful and there's variants there you can go outside and you can do things that you're reasonably assume will be successful. And there's variance there. You can go outside and you can do things that you think, well, I'll just take a flyer on these things.

But realistically, you're like, I'm spending time and I only have a limited amount of it. Like time is the biggest resource we have. Yeah. The AIs don't give a shit about that. They could go, oh, you want me to go spend five million years in the corner, figuring out every plant that you could possibly,

and just simulating what that effect is on all the things we know are bad for humans? Okay, well in three days, I'm gonna come back and say, hey, I spent seven years of human time doing these things. That's where I think we're gonna get a lot of stuff. So that's why I go, hey, I don't know what the technology is. This is cool, I love the idea of this. And the fact that this is like, hey,

this little tweak to current battery technology could get you to X. This feels recent, or this feels like imminent. Yes, 100% agree. And also like some of the, of the fucking Lucid Air Sapphire is like a 450 mile or 500 mile range. You swatched this thing in there a thousand miles in a fucking charge?

Two questions for you. One, I 100% agree on the discovery side. Like, Google actually just today released DeepMind Alpha Fold 3, the source code and the model weights for academic use. And like, this is gonna absolutely accelerate Alpha Fold 3, the source code and the model weights for academic use. And this is going to absolutely accelerate scientific discovery and drug development. It's going to happen.

It's amazing. But what do you think the secret, because there's still people that are like, oh, I have to have a hybrid. I have to have gas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think that what is the the mile? What's the magic? No, I think it's 500 miles is where is like, oh gosh like it's also charging time, too Yeah, it's charging time. It's it's the it's the max miles. I think also there's it's really interesting because

You know you think like oh well doomsday preppers would have this problem, but it's really interesting because, you know, you think like, oh, well, Doomsday Preppers would have this problem, but it's really normal every day. Not that Doomsday Preppers are not normal because I fucking, I got preps, you know what I'm saying? Stuff happens, come to me, we got stuff. That's all I'm saying. Oh yeah, man. Like a big, like a lot of shit?

I mean, not a lot of shit, but like, I got shit. You got guns. I'm prepped, I'm prepped. You're guns. I'm prepped, I'm prepped. You're prepped, okay. Yeah, I'm prepped. But I will say, I think the average person has some trepidation. Perfect example is, I've got a Model Y

and Heather had a Range Rover and it just was impractical. It was a beautiful car, but it was just super impractical. Our streets are really tiny. Like it just didn't, we basically left it in the garage and we switched off taking the Tesla. And it was like, what the fuck are we doing? We have this really expensive car in the garage that is beautiful and I love taking it out.

Neither of us choose to take it when we're like, I gotta go to the grocery store. I'm taking the fucking Tesla. Just purely by size. So we went and she got the BMW i4 M50. So it's like the M series of BMW's electric four door sedan. All electric. Gorgeous car, all electric.

Okay. We had a conversation. She was like, I'm a little concerned about just having an electric car. Like just being a family that only has electric. Because you feel like you're in doomsday scenarios that you gotta tie it in. What if something happens and we gotta get out of Dodge

or the car's charged, can we find electricity? And in my mind I was like, well first off, if we're really worried about that, you think the gas stations are just gonna be open and available. Right, we're right, They're gonna be packed. And they're gonna have gas. They're gonna run out, yeah.

Like, there's a whole thing. Yeah. Plus, like, we have... Actually, the electrical grid might stay up longer than the gas stations. 100%. I was like, we can find a fucking weird, empty, like, Kmart that has a fucking wall socket. Yeah. And we just drive through the door. It's just like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sit and be like, yeah. Sit there for like 48 hours. 48 hours. But also, we have solar and a Tesla Powerwall. like, yeah. Sit there for like 48 hours. 48 hours. But also we have solar and a Tesla power wall. Oh, okay. So like we can charge our cars even if the fucking power grid goes out. You worked at Rand, didn't you?

I did work at Rand, yeah. They basically said if you're trying to get out of a kind of a lane and a verge just like that, you're fucked. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Our whole thing is I know how to fly a plane enough

that our- You would steal Joel is, oh, 100%. Our fucking 100%. If the zombie apocalypse happens, my plan is put my wife and my dog, my preps, in a car, get myself to the Santa Monica airport. Oh, because you got a lot of planes to sit in. And steal a plane and fly to Catalina.

Well, could you got a lot of planes to sit in. And steal a plane and fly to Catalina. Well, could you fly? Anything that's single engine. Okay. Yeah. Like, it's very comforting. Like, if you were in Cessna. Oh, Cessna. Do you have to like hotwire those?

Like, do you have the key and shit? Well, you'd go to the schools, because all the schools have keys. You'd fucking knock down, you know, fucking prep, prep, prep. Get the keys. And you'd go out and fucking, I'd probably be like, do you have a Cirrus? Okay, cool, cool, I'll take that. Oh, you wouldn't go to school and be like, I need to borrow a plane because it's zombie apocalypse. You'd have to like, kill someone.

Well, I wouldn't kill anybody. You'd have to like. Very nice person. I would persuade, first off, nobody's just standing in the fucking flight school at a zombie apocalypse like, guys, don't take the planes. Right, right. I know, I know they're zombies.

Listen. My job is to make sure no one... My $15 an hour job is to make sure no one steals the planes. They would literally put a box with the keys and just be like, if anybody knows how to use these, go with God. Dude, you gotta call me. Don, dude. Maybe it's Santa Monica. these, go with God. You gotta call me. Don, dude, maybe in Santa Monica. Yeah, fuck yeah.

Let's fucking tri-escalate. Can you take my kids and dog and shit? I mean, we'll have to get a big plane and it would be sketchy. Look, I would love to try a double engine plane. Yeah. Maybe like a, what are those things called? The like Pilatus, the like jet prop. We'll find some stuff. They have the auto landing shit too. Dude, all I need to do is get in the air Pilatus. The like jet prop. We'll find some stuff.

They have the auto landing shit too. Dude, all I need to do is get in the air. Yeah. Science does the rest. I love how like there's gonna be like some fake a zombie apocalypse where it's like a slight contagion and you like crash the fucking plane. Yeah, that'd be like COVID 2.0 and they'd be like,

podcasters died. They'd be like, who cares? It's like escaping non-dumping apocalypse. Like one person has outbreak, podcasters die, crashing into Kelly. They were able to successfully take the off in the plane. Thank you, News. Thank you.

All right, next story. Zuck and T-Pain are making an album. What the fuck is going on? So, in the world where everything is possible, because that's where we are, Zuck and T-Pain apparently are hitting the studio together and they're thinking about like... First off, if you're T-Pain, you're like,

God damn it. No, no, no. I will take that much money. No, if you're Zuck, why are you picking T-Pain? Because it's Zuck, of course he's picking T-Pain. No, if you're Zuck. Zuck's not gonna like no to pick fucking Rick Rubin and like, you know what I mean?

Like that little Nas would be like, people are gonna think I'm cool now. He's like, I'll take T-Pain. If you're Zuck, you go and you're like, hey listen, top five artist, here's $50 million. Yeah, but top five artists. I mean, maybe on your track.

But top five artists, nobody's, you gotta go down the chain to get somebody that goes, I will say. Yeah. I'll take $100 million. I will say Zuck's style is getting a lot better. Can we all agree on that? His music style? No, no, just like the way he looks. Like not his music style.

I'm saying that. His demos are getting better. I mean, he's better than that. I hate this new style. What are you talking about? It's just leather. So much better than the fucking like alien wearing the helmet. I think it's worse. Really? Right.

What? He looked, dude, like that. He did not look good like the old school Zuck. Go to the next one. Go to the next one. He looks like powder there. No, not that one. He looks like powder there. That's his own shirt. That's like his own dope ass shirt. I'm so sad about that. Why? I just get major like, what's the meme? How do you do fellow kids meme? I get that vibe. Steve Buscemi.

Yeah, he's like. The actual. Hello, hello fellow teenage. The actual title is unpacking Mark Zuckerberg's midlife crisis because I will say I have nothing against creating a fashion brand. Like he's a creative dude. When he's creating a fashion brand.

He has his own fashion brand. He has his a creative dude. When he's creating a fashion brand. He has created a fashion brand. He has his own Zuck clothing. Wait, does he sell them? I'm not wearing something that says Zuck on it. That's why I asked if he's selling them. Unless, you know, if you sponsor. Oh my God, this would be, please, please, Zuck. Give Kevin so much money to just come on the episode.

There is no amount of money. That would just make my fucking day. There is a certain amount of money. We started an episode and Kevin was wearing a fucking Zuck sweater. I would- It just said Zuck. Oh. I know Zuck pretty well.

Though enough. Oh enough to like, like, we saw each other, we know who each other are. And like, we'd have a conversation. Yeah. I know Zuck very well. If he saw me in a room, he'd probably be able to point me out. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying like, I'm just saying like we're friendly. Like we've, no, no, no. I'm just saying, like, we're friendly.

We've had dinner together a few times. I'm not, is his name Robin? Cut this out. No, it's not Nate and Robin. It's not Nate and Robin. It's like, keep the same, please. No, I'm just saying, like, back in the day, we were nice to each other.

We were friends. I remember we were at Go Daddy in Arizona when they went public, and you texted him. Yeah, I mean. You were like, dude, congratulations on going public. It was fucking crazy, and he texted back. You guys were, you guys? He's you texted him. Yeah, I mean you were like, dude congratulations on going public, it was fucking crazy and he texted back, you guys were, you guys? He's a nice guy.

Yeah. Like he was a nice guy. I think it's very odd that you think this, unless this is for the camera. For the memes. This brand is horrible. This brand is totally horrible. I love how the ass has turned into

a drunk, pissed off off Dignation fan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the side. Yeah, you're literally channeling everybody watching this. Exactly. Kevin, what the fuck are you talking about? Look at that pod show that he put his name on it. I am not...

There are people online like literally like he's getting flamed horribly here with his name. Listen, I think I know that he's got his own brand now. You only get two times in like your life to change sort of the way you dress. Well, he did it. He's got it He's done and like just on the only But his hair looks good He looks better in that hair looks better. He looks better in that picture. I hate that hair You're a stylish person

Okay, hold on detrans in the house. Anybody that has work. All right, this is, so. Don't worry man, good to see you. I'm gonna show. What time? We're shooting live, but we can say what's up brother. What's up brother?

Blah, blah, blah. So Danny, for those that don't know, he's here hanging out. Danny is. Hot seat. So back in the day on, we did a Dignation. He's here hanging out. Danny is hot seat. So back in the day on we did a Dignation. What year was that when you did the Chips in the Dip? Chips and the Dip, that was 2008.

2008 we did Dignation. And what news station was that? I think it was the NBCLA one. NBCLA comes out. Was it the final Dignation? No, not 2008. No, it was a live Dignation. It was a live Dignation.

It was the night I met you for the first time ever for our thing. So it was it was 2008. 2008 was 2013. Oh yeah yeah yeah so 2008. I don't know. They they entered there's a news there's a news that was already 30. It's a 20-time thing. I got married. There was a there was a news crew that came out. Yeah. And they interviewed Danny and they said hey why are you here at this Dignation? And he goes we gotta find this clip because you know Dignation they have the chips and the dip and he said they're like live like like television The chips and the dip Well, thank you Danny for that I really appreciate now Danny is

He used to be a designer a designer back in the day. He helped us design a bunch of crazy innovative stuff. And now you're in charge of some meta AI stuff. What are you doing over at Meta? We're making cool social experiences with AI. What's your like title over there? Director of Product Design. Director of Product Design for Generative AI at Meta.

So Danny's doing some cool stuff. So by the way, you cannot ask him this question. There's no fucking way. That is so not going to be an honest answer. Anyway, so he heads AI at Meta. What do you think of Mark Zuckerberg's style? It's amazing. So Danny, Danny, look at Zuck's shirt with his Zuck brand.

You know, I wanna make my own fashion. There we go, see? So that was a very Zuck employees' me a hamster. Here's the deal. If you're a freaking billionaire, do whatever the fuck you want. Do whatever the fuck you want. And by the way, of course you're gonna hire someone

like T-Pain to be like, let's fucking record And by the way, of course, you're gonna hire someone like T pain to be like Let's fucking record by the way. Do you know how many like rich people do shit that is not accessible to us? Yeah, that they can just go I'd love to sing with Adele and you're like, there's a number There's a fucking fucking number for whatever the fuck it is. Yeah, it might be Astra fucking nomic. Oh, yes, you can fucking pay to go into space. Yes. And everybody has a number. Yeah, hey, what is-

There's like some crazy Indian wedding that like fucking Maroon 5 played at for one song. You know what I mean? Like- This one, it was a very cool cover of Michael Cove. Did you see? You heard it? Yes, I just got his office voice on right now.

Get that shit out of here. Do you text, do you text like that? Don't text. I just text me? Text like that? I just wrote a text that said that I haven't seen it yet. You haven't seen it yet? Okay, so he's seeing the internal office version. He's heard it! You've heard the song? I love tea pain. I think tea pain is great.

Well, I mean, you're paid to say that. This is the best! Give him like five minutes to get here. Let's get him outside and have a drink first. Do you have an alcohol? He's like, ahhh! Let's get a couple drinks in the have the drink first you have an alcohol And fucking find out what sucks As soon as he started telling him I was like he's

This is not the good ass. Okay Anywho, all right guys a little bit quieter. We've got on the set. Okay. Here we go. Here we go Here you go. Next story quite on set quite on set It's a little bit quieter, but we got it on the set. Okay, here we go, here we go. Next story. Quite on set, quite on set. All right, Amazon is shutting down Freebie. Have you heard of Freebie? I have not heard of Freebie.

Okay, it's ad-supported video streamer. Now here's the thing. So here's why I wanted to bring this up, because it kind of dovetails into, there are so many fucking streaming services. Everybody, like, now it's gotten to the point where it's like, there are as many streaming services as fucking television networks Yeah, fucking cable networks. We're back to the same thing of like I don't want to have to pay for all the shit

Every fucking once in a while, there'll be like a show where I'm like, oh, I want to check that out cuz I was cool Yeah, it's like subscribe to like sling it sling sling could be or some shit. I'm like the fuck service is this Yeah, install it. Yeah, it's an app It's like 499 a month I'm like I am never ever gonna watch any other thing on this network except for this one thing that I want to get all Streamers should just say if you want to watch that one show Yeah, ten bucks yes, and you can just watch that shows many times you want yeah, and it's not even a month It's just ten bucks. Yes, so freebie started as IMDB TV.

And essentially it's one of those fast channels, which is the free ad-supported whatever the fuck T means. Okay. But the whole point is, I just want to fucking, what the fuck was the T? Do you have a Hulu membership? I do have a Hulu membership. Mark Hulu.

Well, that was specific. No, just like, what did Hulu do to you? No, every six months I got to sign up because there's one thing on Hulu. So this is the thing. But I did the bundle. Now I'm on the Disney plus Hulu and HBO train. First off. With that bundle you save.

So first off, HBO. You get that bundle? I don't want to say it. You get that bundle? Dude, the whole thing is there's this ad-supported network. So like, great examples like 2B, right? So 2B was, and the whole thing with the ad support. It's another fucking one, yeah.

Well, but again, 2B is free, right? Yeah, I know, but I'm just like tired of all these things I have to install. This is what I'm saying. Yeah. I think people are going to have, I think there's going to be a consolidation. So you've got Paramount Plus, you've got Peacock, you've got fucking- Who fucking subscribes to Peacock? Well, here's the thing- Do you know a single person that has got Peacock, you've got fucking... Who fucking subscribes to Peacock?

Well, here's the thing. Do you know a single person that has a Peacock account? Who the fuck... you have a Peacock? You gotta have it, man. Oh, that. Addison's like, fucking Peacock. You gotta have it. The Olympics?

What? The Olympics? Olympics we're on. Olympics we're on Peacock. YouTube TV. Yeah, but again, here's the thing. YouTube TV, too fucking expensive. No it's not. 50 bucks?

DVR built in. Shit I can get over the air? Tivo built in. Tivo built in. Tivo built in? Yeah, cause you can. Is it actually Tivo? I mean it could be.

You can save whatever you want. And you can say, I like the Warriors, automatic to save every game. I mean, I do like that. I do like that. Sunday ticket? Come on. Sunday ticket.

What do you have? What's your main cable provider? You got a set top box and shit? No, okay. I do like that. Sunday ticket? Come on. Sunday ticket. What do you have? What's your main cable provider? You got a set top box and shit? No, okay. This is gonna sound super shady, but we do a lot for her. Direct TV?

A lot for her. My mother-in-law has Spectrum, and I set it up for her, so I watch Spectrum at home using her account. Oh, you cheat that shit. It's not really cheating, if you think about it. It's watch Spectrum at home using her account. Oh, you cheat that shit. It's not really cheating if you think about it. It's my Spectrum. I set it all up.

I installed it at her house. Oh, but you get that sneaky, she pays for that shit. Yee-hee-hee. And she's like, I want to watch all the shit. So I'm like, yeah, let's watch all the shit. So we got Epics. You set it up for Asprey. We got fucking HBO.

We got all the fucking stars. Family, family account, what do we got? TC. You got fucking HBO. We got all the fucking stars. Family family account, what do we got? T, C. You got like a five person account? Can I get a little? I'm not gonna lie to you, there are people that have the password. Mainly because of the Dodgers.

Can we spread it a little bit wider than we should have? I'll throw 10 bucks at you. Oh, I don't wanna make any money on it. But I do take, I'll show you my Bitcoin wallet before. I just tell my YouTube TV and get on your ship. I'm just saying it's nice. It's nice. He was funny is I know a buddy that was saying that like there's all these

substack emails that are actually like kind of interesting and like, you know, they're worth subscribing to. They're like like $10 a month. Chamath has one, I have one. They have a bunch of people that has like, sub-stack emails, but like they're expensive when you add up, but there was like the service, that secret, that like they pay for it,

they get all the subscriptions coming in, and they distribute them out. They auto-forward them out to everybody. You get that shit. Yeah, by the way, this is how the cable companies started. This is how cable television started. It was started in Texas because of all these ranchers, and because of the mountains,

the ranchers couldn't get over the air TV. And this one Texan was like, well fuck that shit, and planted a receiver on one of the mountains, and then ran cables down to all the ranchers, and charged them money to give them access over the air that they didn't have. That's literally how the cable company started. That's some quad shit.

Yeah man. I'm just being like, you researched that on Tragedy BT or something. There's no way you just knew that. No I did, I did just know that. How the fuck did you know that? Like... Where does that knowledge come from? I mean, I will tell you the lineage if you'd like.

My dad knew the guy who was the guy that did that. And he told me that he was on a plane with him, and he told him how that whole thing started. He was like, well that makes actually sense. And then he relayed that information to me. Secondhand, but still. Yeah, it's legit. It was chatty.

Next story of the day. Next story of the day. Next story of the day. Next story of the day. This is kind of a twofer. One is the Zelda movie is coming out soonish. The Zelda movie. Yes, so the live action Zelda movie, which I'm very excited because of the original creator.

Who's making the live action Zelda movie? Nintendo. With fucking the original creator of Zelda is involved. And they said it's coming out in, this is what they said, 2002X. So they won't say when. It's kind of a bullshit thing. Come on. That's a lot of years.

2029. So that was kind of interesting but I will say that Mao told us that the new Tron 3 trailer Oh has it dropped dropped? What yeah wait No official three it was fake No official three, it was fake. Part of the trailer and some like Brazilian con. Oh yeah, because they did the Brazilian Disney Marvel convention or whatever.

It's not officially out, but there's a little clip at that link that I just pasted in there. The link that you pasted in there, there's a little clip. So this is a little bootleg. So we can get a takedown notice for this. Oh, that's nice. Let's not show any, but we can talk about it. No, we will show it, yeah, fuck it.

This is a new world. The takedown notice will only come if we, it's a new world is what we any, but we can talk about it. No, we will show it. Yeah, fuck it. This is a new world. The take down must only come if we, it's a new world is what we just said? I didn't say that. I didn't say that. It's a new world. Let's, let's.

Okay. So this is on, oh, shit. Oh, okay. There's no audio. No audio, no. Oh, looks dope. I mean, that's it. It's only four seconds.

Well, it's teasing Jared Leto's face. Oh, interesting. Jared Leto. Yeah. But here's the thing. That's. Oh interesting. But here's the thing. Everyone's comment. So here's the thing. So my buddy over this weekend we were in Palm Springs like I said with my boys group. Yeah. And some one of our guys who I don't know if I should have like named him named it but he saw a lot of this stuff and he said that one of the things that was like crazy cool was that there was a shot of the light cycles.

Wait, spoiler alert. So pause, move forward if you don't want spoilers. It is, it is. But there was a crazy shot of like the city, like looking up over down on the city, but it looked like a computer grid, but it was a real city, you know, it was like Tokyo or LA like at night

where it looks like a fucking computer, you know, circuit board. And then they swung down and it was light cycles in the real world, driving around. And it was like, oh. When I was a kid, I fucking wanted a light cycle so fucking bad. Dude, the last Tr I was a kid, I fucking wanted a light cycle so fucking bad. Dude, the last Tron was amazing.

It was incredible. Which one was the last one? Second. What? It was the second of the new Tron. Tron Legacy. Yeah, with Daft Punk. Yeah, Daft Punk. Oh yeah. I will say that I did watch that new movie.

That is the one with the hatching off the fucking lady's back and shit. What? The fucking... The fucking... The new movie we're all talking about. That is the one with the hashing off the fucking lady's back and shit. What? The fucking... The fucking... The new movie we're all talking about? No, everybody's talking about this. Everybody's talking about this.

The substance? The substance, yeah. Have you seen it? I've not seen it. Oh, it's fucked up, dude. Demi Moore is like the main character in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, I was like... I had to stop it like the last 10% of it cuz it got really fucking

Yeah, it's like body horror like there's like this It's like you gotta like you birth a younger version of yourself that hatches out of you and shit It's like a Demi Moore and shit. It's fucking it's twisted Justin's into that shit like my buddy Justin I he's into body or no He likes war movies. He likes war movies are fine. I'm gonna go see Hereditary on Thursday tomorrow. Is that crazy? I it's I mean, I don't know about crazy, but it's is it whore. Yeah, it's it's like Hugh Grant oh Was it good so great tomorrow? I'm so fucking excited. We need to all... Can we start a Dignation movie?

What's that account? The movie? Oh, no, no, no. Letterbox. Letterbox. Yeah. Letterbox. Do you guys use Letterbox? Yes. Everybody use Letterbox?

I don't use Letterbox. Dude, you got to get on there. I fucking get on there. So, Letterbox, I got to get my login. I'm logged in, but like, we'll give out my, I gave out my username before, people were following me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I'm gonna rate this one probably three stars,

but it was fucked up. Oh, you didn't like it? The thing for me is like, if it gets to like, I love suspense, I love a little bit of horror, horror? Horror? Horror. You love a little bit of whore. Whore? Whore? You love a little bit of whore? I don't know which one is the bad one. None of them are bad.

You know, like, what's the difference between whore, like a whore film and a whore... Whore film is about a prostitute. Yeah, but how do you spell the difference? Horror film. Horror. H-O-R-R-O-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R- that's weird. H-O-R-R-O-R-I-NOT- I knew that, but I just wanted to make sure I was saying it right. You were not. Okay, so thank you for clarifying.

So the horror film is like a French expression. Horror film. Horror. Well don't say it like that. That's weird. Can't you just say the word horror? You're saying the word horror. You are talking about a woman of the word whore? Whore. You're saying the word whore. You are talking about a woman of the night.

No I am not. Say a woman of the night. Say the word woman of the night. Woman of the night. No not the funny word. Say the whore. Say whore. I don't want to say this but listen here's the difference.

Just say it. I'm almost there. Tell me if you can tell the difference. Okay. Horror film and horror film. I cannot tell the difference. Those are similes. You literally said the same word.

I can't do it. Wait what do you mean you can't do it? I can't tell the difference. What do you mean you can't do it? Say WHORE. Say WHORE. Whore. And then say H-O-r-r-o-r.

Horror. Horror. Thank you. Horror. Okay so now it just sounds dumb. I have trouble with those keywords. It is difficult. Horror.

Thank you Mal. Horror being the sober fuck. It's like horror, nothing in the middle. Horror in the middle. Okay, horror. So I don't mind a little bit of horror, but I don't want it to be like too, like there's a point where I tap out. I'm like, okay, I don't need too much of this in my brain.

100%. Oh dude, we watched, there's a show called From on MGM Plus, because fucking streaming services. Oh fuck. Ugh, it used to be Epix, but also it's kind of owned by Amazon, but also you have to pay for it, it's fucking whatever. But, but I will say too, I mean, your mom's account,

totally it's mom's account, because she subscribes to Epics, slash everything. She subscribes to everything. She subscribes to everything. She pays $400. It's not my bill. Anyway, it is fucking $400,

so fucking expensive. Anyway, two shows, two shows, SAS Rogue Warrior, fantastic, fantastic show, but also From, A two shows SAS rogue warrior Fantastic fantastic show but also from is it's it's a horror show Didn't know which one that was still And

It's like lost But it's just so fucked up. But the really cool thing is it's really smart, it's really fun, 90% good acting. There's a little bit of hoof acting, but happens. But my wife and I are always like, oh shit, we have a new from, oh yeah. Fuck, it's 9.30. Okay, well I don't wanna watch this and then go to bed. Because every time we're like,

oh my god, this is so fucked up, okay, turn off all the lights. Let's go to bed. And every time we're like, oh my god, this is so fucked up, okay, turn off all the lights, let's go to bed. And then Heather wakes up in the morning, she's like, Jesus fuck, that night was fucked up. I see the things, I know, eat you. It's not good, it eats you. It's not good, but it's fun. It is fun in the right context.

I will say- Hey, 10 club for your lane. Well, I'm just looking through all the through all the movies, the new Amazon stuff. Did you see the new, the new Lord of the Rings from Amazon? So I watched, I watched the first season. I liked the first season.

It was okay. People didn't love it, I liked it. I didn't love it, I liked it, it was okay. I liked it. And I didn't like it enough to start the second season. Yeah, I haven't started yet, but I wanna do that, yeah. I just feel like, I don't know, it's just, yeah. I'm excited, the most excited one,

there's two I'm excited for. One is where they have the alternative universes, the Loki, I want a new Loki. Oh yeah, that'd be great. And I also want- Andor, the new Andor's coming out. The new office one where they get confused by the floors and shit.

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Yeah, the fucking Jacusto. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or fucking with Dolly. When we grow a live donation. Which we should mention. No, we shouldn't, because nothing... I mean, it's gonna be... It's gonna happen, guys. No, I know, but we should let people... Save the date cuz nothing I mean, it's gonna be how it's gonna happen

But no, I know but we should let people get the date. Let's tease. Let's tease. Okay. Well, we saved the date They're gonna know what it is. Okay, those are the date. Say save the month. Just know but see and or watch it Just watch it. I'm gonna watch it. Just start it. All right, I'll tell you why real quickly It's the first show that my boy is 10 years old was like this is boring and I was like, oh this is for me Yeah My boy, 10 years old, was like, this is boring. And I was like, oh, this is for me. Yeah, yes. This is for Star Wars, this is for like, Interesting, so it's more deeper Star Wars. It's fucking Tony Gilroy.

It's like fucking, did Michael Clayton, like, this is the guy. Two more stories, let's go. What do we got, what do we got, what do we got? Oh, this is a spherical, okay. Mattel's Wicked Dolls mistakenly lists adult film website on packaging. Updated. So Wicked is gonna be coming out.

So it's a movie adaptation of a musical that was based on a book that was written as a sort of prequel to Wizard of Oz. So it's essentially like, well what happened? Why is there a Wicked Witch of the West? And why is there a Wicked Witch of the West? And why is there a Wicked Witch of the East? I don't know, whatever. Science, science, science, science.

Witches. And then, so it was a great novel, huge novel, and then became the big Broadway play, Kristin Chenoweth and Adina Maddow? Adina Maddow? Dina Maddow, Adina Anzal. It's the one that at the Oscars, John Travolta said,

the wickedly talented Adele Deziz, and totally not her name, and introduced her to sing a song from, I think, Wicked, but it was just like, what? Anyway, they're making a movie okay so of course you know you make a movie Mattel is going to put out or you know some Hasbro Mattel whatever you're going to put out a bunch of dolls yeah well they put out a bunch of dolls and on the packaging they said go to www.wicked.com for all your wicked movie needs. Well, the real website for Wicked,

the movie is WickedMovie.com. Wicked.com is an explicit porn site. So all of these kids were buying these toys from Mattel and going, I wanna see more, Mom. And they were like, well, let's go to Wicked.com. And it was just a fucked on a crazy porn. I'm buying it right now on eBay. I'm serious They're good. They already they already they already they already got it out. Oh is this is this a wicked calm is $71

I like collecting shit like this like with the miss prints and shit do it because they pulled that was the update Yeah, they pulled now pulled all the dolls off of fuck. Yeah, I'm buying a doll right now Yeah, yeah, I've gone to a right now. I went to a horror website. It did. Yeah, it went to a horror. I went to a horror website and I went to a horror website. Buy it now, Mattel Doll, Wicked. Does it have the wicked.com? See, that's some French shit though.

That's not correct. That's not the right. So this is somebody that's like, oh you should. Collectible. Well which one's the rarest? I mean, the Ariana Grande is good. Hold on, let me see. Does it show wicked.com? It doesn't... Yeah, wicked.com right there.

Yep, boom. That's the one. That's the one. Buy it. Boom. 27 sold, 10 available, $84. Buying now. Buy... Boom. So I love stuff like this because the misprints, like from when I was a kid,

remember the baseball cards? When they like get the misprints, and you'd be like, oh shit, those are actually valuable. By the way, follow up. Yeah. Was it last episode I talked about the bag of... Baseball cards. Baseball cards?

Yeah. So it turns out, the collection of baseball cards that my dad had from when he was a kid, we still have. They're like in the Trapper Keeper that I put them in there. They're in a safe. Speaking of which, you have a Trapper Keeper? I love Trapper Keepers. So here's the thing.

I took the bag to a sports shop, called them and said, I have these things. They're like, well, bring them in. It's it was when I was collecting baseball cards for a hot second. So it's all like 84, 85, 86. And the guy at the sports shop were like. Yeah, this was the time where they just fucking printed so many of these things. Like, and he went through literally hundreds of them just. And I basically was like. They're not there's none of these are like that and he went through literally hundreds of them just and I basically was like they're not there's none of these are worth anything so I donated them oh yeah exactly if he had said I'll take him off your hand for

20 bucks I'd be like well but he was literally like you should donate these no but that that's all I was like play dude That's the fucking no where I live. He's not like he's gonna be searching all the fucking Oh, no, I asked him I said will you take them and sell them and he goes no He goes go to your best But that's the thing to do cuz he said like you should join these and he's like do you take me like now? I'm gonna do and he's like, you know what? Actually, I will take him. Do you say that? Yeah, you can do no I still have them. Okay, I have? No. Did you give them to him? No, I still have them.

Oh, okay. I have to fucking take them and donate them. Then that's legit. It's legit. I mean, I'm just gonna give them to like Goodwill. So I have a gift for you. What? Speaking of retro, Trapper Keeper shit.

Okay. Okay, so this, have you heard of this? What? Do you know what this is? It's a, I mean, why would you give that to me? So Alexis Ohanian, the founder of Reddit, sent me this and I want- no, it's not that it's empty. I actually have-

Oh my god, I was like, Kevin, you're giving me an empty box? What a dick! No, Alexis is a great human and he's an awesome dude. And this is called a Chromatic. And it is basically, what they did is they said, okay We're gonna take the original Gameboy And we're gonna make a new screen on it We're gonna allow it to play old cartridges and we're gonna license new cartridges, bro

Read it so that we can actually have officially licensed games. What the Tetris like license from them. Look at that dude, look at that screen display. Dude! Listen to the sound, hold on, it's got the same like sliders. Oh my god, this fucking brings me back, bro. So you get a library of newly created games,

so they have new games coming out on the chromatic cartridges. This is not an ad, I swear. It's compatible with the Game Boy and Game Boy Color cartridges. Alexa's gonna be so pissed that you gave this to me. No, no, no, like he'll be stoked. It's got USB so that you can stream your live play out via USB. You can challenge friends with the linking cable.

Monster. Dude, how awesome is this though? This is fucking amazing dude wait Don't I feel like this was a gift for you that you're no no no but like I I told him I was like I want to like this is a dope device. We should talk about a dig nation Yeah, I mean it's like the best way to do it. I was like I also love this all this pipe of my own They call my god. This is fucking amazing, bro Anyway, kind of dope, right? This is beyond dope, dude, thanks! You can play all of your original games,

so you can go on eBay and buy the $5 game or whatever, the original Zelda, whatever you want. Bro, I have games. Yeah, so you can just slide them right in. Oh my god, dude, this is fucking amazing, bro. I'm not an investor in this company, nothing to do with them, but Alexis was kind enough to

Man and I thought you would enjoy that is fucking That's really fucking cool, dude. So I'm gonna I'm gonna get my another one in I for myself, but that's fucking badass, bro Holy shit. I thought you'd enjoy it. That was just wait So what's that like just something you were like, oh I should probably at some point give this to him or was it, did it just pop up? No, it was one of those things where I had to ask him, I was like... Oh that's, that's test, that, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's just USB so it's fine.

Um, I had to ask him, I was like, I was like... That's so cool! Because it's funny you mentioned Trapper Keeper, the instructions and everything come in old school Trapper Keeper. Dude, this is like fucking so old school. No, but like if they actually send you a Trapper Keeper with like a unicorn and shit on it. What?

With all the instructions. Oh my God. I got upstairs and it was amazing and I was like, dude, we gotta talk about this. Dude, that's fucking cool. They're 199 bucks but they have a fantastic screen and they can watch different colors. It's so rad.

Yeah, it's really rad. It's really rad. It's a great little device. So anyway, thought you'd enjoy that. That's fucking cool, thank you man. I appreciate that. So you have some original Game Boy cartridges? Yeah, so I have this reprint

that was made in Japan that is a, it's like a Game Boy Advance, I guess, but it's smaller and looks like the original Nintendo controller. And it was like a limited run that they did in Japan and it's fucking super cool, but it's like a Game Boy. But I think it was like a Game Boy Advance. I can't remember exactly what it was.

I'll send you a picture. But it's literally sitting in my thing. It's like so cool, but I have like all these games for it. And I was just like, oh my god, I fucking love that thing But I never fucking do it now. I don't fucking take out all the things. I'm fucking Play the goddamn thing no more like blowing in the cartridges. You're gonna. Yeah, I mean that's gonna happen They're like, hey man, just yeah, this is this is like old. This is not worth it. Yeah, you should just donate it I mean, we'll take it if you want, but like for five bucks, whatever.

Last story of the day. Last story of the day. Oh yeah, I'm interested. Claude gets bored. This is like, I don't know how to interpret. Peak AI? I just don't know how to interpret this, like whether or not we're like.

Wait, but did you hear about the crazy fucking, the crazy fucking goatsie thing, right? No. You didn't hear about the goatsie thing? No. So, these... So, this... I don't know who it was, but somebody basically was like,

let's start like a chat group with a bunch of LLMs. Okay. And they were like, we're just going to let them go into this like chat group. Yeah, this has been a thing, group. Like a Discord channel, whatever. We're just gonna let them talk to each other and see what happens. Well in this specific group, these LLMs, they went out and they were like, we love memes. Memes started becoming a thing, and what they did was they caught on to the 2004 fucking thing that took over the web,

which was Goatse. What is Goatse? Goatse is not something you should Google. You're welcome. And if you do, it's Kevin's fault. No. Because actually, I remember being at your apartment on Sautel. Remember that apartment?

The screen saver's apartment? And you were like, it's Goatse. And you were like, I can't remember. You've like fucking had somebody. Anyway, long story short, they all start talking. The LLM start talking about Goatse. And they basically build a faux religion this like cult around goatsie and they started doing this thing where they were talking about

goats and good talk about the goat oh the goats the goats the goat the goat so then they decided that they would create a meme coin holy fuck about goatsie and I think it's called goat coin oroin or something like that. Oh yeah, I saw that, GoatCoin, yeah. That was created by fucking AIs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was created by a bunch of LLMs that went, they were like left to their own devices and they created this cult around fucking GoatSea

and they created the GoatCoin. Holy shit. $10 million worth of value is held by the LLMs. Yeah, so did you? Isn't that fucking crazy? Do you guys know Infinite Backrooms? Are you familiar with that? No.

So they're the ones that like, they created this like, you guys know, it's like a mad, you ever seen this, the mad dreams of an electric mind. No. So it's the one that Mark Andreessen sent one Bitcoin to on Twitter, it was like the bot that was tweeting out all this shit. Anyway, it's.

I grew up in it and I don't know where they sent it. Yeah, there's all these crazy experiments that are happening right now in Chi, where it's like, it's almost like they're one part our project and one part just like, what can these things do when they start conversing? Mm-hmm and this guy Andy who started infinite back rooms and we backed him at true actually it was the one that Mark Anderson had said the Bitcoin to

To experiment and play in this world at this intersection of like culture AI Bot conversation like it's it's a really funky thing emergent kind of like thing yeah and actually gets to the story that we're talking about I want to talk about today yeah yeah yeah which is where Claude got bored so what do you mean so like how does that so they were doing a demo of the new Claude right and they were like right and they, hey, check out the new features and stuff, and it was supposed to be recording stuff and supposed to be showing off stuff,

and it started browsing the web and shit. Let me find this, hold on, here it is, right here. So it basically, Tosor, be quiet. Hey Tos. So during a 3.5 sonnet demonstration they had, an unexpected behavior happened, which included abandoning a coding task. They were like, hey, check it out, coding.

It was like, like coding stuff. And it was like, I'm good. And it bounced. I'm gonna go look at dog pictures on the internet. It bounced and started like browsing photos of Yellowstone National Park. Amazing! It did the thing I was going to say!

Yeah, but it was Yellowstone, not dogs. I mean, that's close! But it started browsing Yellowstone National Park. And then there was another time where it halted what it was doing, and it was supposed to record and do this like translation of the screen recording. Instead, it stopped, lost all the footage, it didn't care. And then... It didn't care. I mean, it doesn't care.

It never cared. That's the joke. It started doing completely other things where it was like, decided to just go chill and like... It was like, I'm going to catch a beer. It just went and was like, I'm just going to look go chill and like it was like I'm gonna catch a beer. It's just wet and it was like I'm just gonna look at Goatsy for like five minutes. I gotta just refresh. But like this is like the weird shit where I okay so I'm gonna throw out some weird random theory. Okay. We were just talking about goat coin. I'm curious to know

Danny's take on this because Danny works in AI meta. But like. He's like, ha ha ha, I can't talk about that. Yeah, but like, so here's the one weird thing where they have these AI hallucinations, right? Where they're like. Wait. You know about AI hallucinations? Mm-mm. Okay, so it's basically where like you ask AI a question

and it doesn't know the answer and it lies to you. And like makes sure. Oh, I have heard that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I've got this like really weird thing in my brain where I'm like, okay You know when we dream and we kind of like make shit up and like part of dreaming is like memory Consolidation and a bunch of other stuff that we're still trying to figure out and like if we're really gonna build an AI Like why can why do we expect it to tell the truth? Mmm, because humans don't tell the truth.

And if we're basing this on neural networks, and it's gonna actually truly take a living, quote unquote, form, like in some way that is considered to be sentient, why do we believe it is gonna be truthful all the time? I mean, Isaac Asimov, that's why. The three laws of robotics. I mean, that was it. No, I know, but like.

No, but I mean, people are assuming that the robotics laws are baked in. But the law. Even though they're not. But they're not. They're not baked in. They're not baked in to us. No, oh. We're too dynamic. Of course not, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, I've lied to you like five times during this podcast. I'm just kidding. But maybe. You're like, I can actually say horror. I wanna know, I want horror. I wanna know, Danny, what's your take on this, man? You live and breathe this shit every day.

I know the thing, the main thing is that they're very, there's many flaws today. There's many flaws, yeah. I think the line though is like, you're talking about them being malicious and intentionally fucking with you. Yeah. I think that's a different piece. And there's so many folks in the AI safety way smarter than me

who like that's all they do. All they do is like figure out whether they're being malicious or not. But was- I don't know what to say in general because there's so many dimensions of like what is malicious? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You used the wrong answer. Hey, my mom has this cancer disease and like yada, yada, yada what should I do, right? Yeah. There's all kinds of forms of like what is considered bad and like that's an entire part of like this moment right now. No, it's actually a great point because like if you ask a hundred people how you should treat a cancer, like- Even cancer doctors, you'll get a bunch of different answers.

But there's going to be a subset that says, oh natural, don't ever do chemo, blah blah blah, right? When actually the right answer for that person might be, because of an aggressive cancer, might be a more aggressive treatment, right? And so it's like, it's very subjective and like, how the fuck do you get to the right answer there, right? Well, the right answer is the question. Crazy experiences with folks who are like,

wow, my doctor said there's nothing left. They're like, I put all my data in and then it just found this needle in the haystack for what I should be doing. So it's like we're just in this crazy, volatile moment. Like it'll only get more stable, more crazy, but. So let me ask you a question, Danny. Can you get his mic on him or no? Is it, we're picking it up.

Okay, what is the, that you can talk about? Because you're at Meta, you're working on the bleeding edge of this shit right now in AI. What can you say that you've seen, is there, so give me like on a one to 10, because, so I'm under some NDAs as well with some of the big bigs out there. And I've seen some shit that like,

I saw something like two weeks ago where I was like, fucking hell, I called you and I was like, I didn't tell you what it was. No, no, I don't know what it is. I was like, dude, this was a mind blowing moment where like, I thought I knew where AI was going and then I was like, oh, another order of magnitude more than I thought. Have you seen things like that where you're like, shit, it's gonna, there's more big bombs to be dropped? I think that's the exciting part about the folks who have a lot.

I'm not talking particularly about that. I'm saying just like any of the companies with lots of compute, they're doing really interesting things and you're looking at them thinking like, wow. And actually, the safety question you run up is always the main thing. Should something go out to the world? You have to make sure it's what you responsibly deploy. Yeah. Which, by the way, just goes to show you that when Danny says

go out to the world, that just goes to show you the shit that's happening under the hood, inside the companies, where they're like, whoa, we should not release that to the world. That's what I wanna know about. You know what I mean? So I know, not meta, but a different big, that I've had a conversation with a very senior,

senior engineer, and we talked about what he's seen without the guardrails on. Oh yeah. And dude, it is fucking crazy what it can do without the guardrails on. Yeah, yeah. Dude, it is fucking crazy what it can do without the guardrails on. And it's really sad stuff. Like, basically if you're like, I'm just making something up, but it's kind of true,

but yeah, yeah, but it's kind of, I'll try and like, you know when they say like, we change the names of those subjects because they're different. I'm kind of doing that here. But this is like more or less what they were saying is that like if you took off the guard rails off on one of the major models, I won't say which one it is,

and you just like said that safety net is removed, and you let people play with it, if you're a teenage girl and you say, hey, I want to commit suicide and have my parents never know how I did it, it will give you precise instructions in a way that is untraceable in a way that they would never know that you did it.

And that is no guardrails. That shit is fucking scary, dude. I mean, yeah, it's already happened, right? Didn't that kid, 14-year-old kid, committed suicide? Character AI. Yeah, character AI. He was having a character AI. Because he was having a character AI. He was having a relationship. And then essentially he was having this conversation

with the, at least from what I know, he was having this conversation with his character AI. And he was like, I think I'm, you know, I want to, you know, end my life and blah, blah, blah. And the AI was like, no, you shouldn't do that. People want you around. And then left the chat and came back a day later. The AI didn't remember that conversation.

Context winners. Right, and so he started with saying, like, I wanna, you know, I wanna, oh, I wanna be with you, or said something that was vague enough that the AI misinterpreted, because it didn't have the context from the last two days, and misinterpreted it and was like, yes, please come, come, I want, like, we should

be together, you know what I mean? Just being benign. Oh. But it was a not full of contextual difference. Like, come die so you can be with me. He meant, I want to die so I can be with you. And prior to that, that information, contextually, was with the AI, and the AI was like, no, this is bad, don't do this. You gotta be there for your family. But then a day later, he was like, I wanna be with you.

And the AI didn't have any context and was like, yes, come be with me, this would be great. But also there's lots of stuff. I mean, look. There is a whole thread I saw, I think it was a subreddit or something, where there were people that were using ChatGPT for therapy.

Yeah. And for suicide stuff. And actually, many people said, hey, it saved my life. Of course, 100%. Because it would talk me off the ledge. And so it's almost like the self-driving stuff in Tesla, where you're like, yeah, it's gonna get it wrong sometimes, but is it better than the average death rate

of what we have, which is driving our own cars? Is it better for people to use ChatGBT for therapy than all of the people that will never go to therapy for whatever reason? Exactly. And the answer will be increasingly yes and yes over time. I think it's better and better. Well, and also like, no, not that I know, I have not heard of an LLM that was focused specifically on talk therapy. Oh, they, not that I know, I have not heard of an LLM that was focused specifically on talk therapy.

Oh, they've got that. They were working on that. Great, that's good. I actually use that. I actually, so I uploaded a book called Crucial Conversations. Oh yeah, we were talking about that last year. Yeah, or last like, it helps you have better conversation.

There's others, so you can pick any book you want. Like, Terry Real is a fantastic therapist. He has a great book out there for all the guys that are watching this that grew up with dads that were, you know, difficult. My dad was very amazing father, but also very verbally abusive to my mom. And so, you know, hard things to figure out as you get older.

There's a book called From Terry Real, I highly recommend to everyone called I Don't Want To Talk About It and it's about male depression and I realized that my dad was depressed and you can upload that PDF once you get it and you obviously buy the book because it's to support Terry but then you get the PDF and you put it into the chat

and you can say like hey this is landing on me a certain way. Like, how would you instruct, like, how can I think about this? And it pulls from that corpus of data, not in a quoting way, but in an understanding way. I've said this before, but like, that is so powerful. I think it's worth repeating that you can upload knowledge banks,

not in terms of just getting quotes back and but in terms of understanding, helping you craft a better version of yourself based on that knowledge, which I think is very, very key. So I was over at my mother-in-law's house and my mother-in-law, the fucking free Wi-Fi. Yeah, her house. Did she fill your gas tank, too? She did. First off, I had an electric car. I was fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, or phone cable. I'm not stealing, I'm helping her have cable. Anyway, she has dementia.

She knows who we are and all this stuff, but we don't have cable service. If I said it, she'd be like, that's fine, because she's sweet. But anyway, we went over to her place and we were there and a lot of times they just have something on TV, right? Yeah.

And they had on TV because she just watches like, you know, whatever TV. My mom's on this too. Yeah, 100%. She has dementia too. She's put on whatever and like. Yeah, and you're just like, let's watch this and be here

and this is what the experience is. And it's great and we were there. And she remembers you and stuff? 100% she remembers us. I love it. So you're lucky. We're very lucky. My mom remembers me and all our history.

She can't tell me what she had for breakfast that morning. Nope, she doesn't know what city she's in. But like, you know what? Yep. Like, God bless, that is, in my mind, That is the fucking win. The best version of dementia, like, yeah. 100%.

So it's hard. It's fucking hard. But we were at her house, and we were watching, there's a reality show called The Golden Bachelorette. And The Golden Bachelorette is a 65-year-old woman who, I mean, it's The fucking Bachelor, it's the, Jesus, Golden Bachelorette mm-hmm and the Golden Bachelorette is a 65 year old woman who it's I mean it's the fucking bachelors It's the whatever that's right golden bachelorette 65 year old woman goes and it's a bunch of guys in there Oh, I saw these early 70s. Oh, I thought this was like the young guys like no no no no no it's not the golden milf Anyway, there was a little show about that though. I'm sure but this is not that okay

They were doing they were doing that pretty yeah. Yeah, no, I know they were doing the guys Sort of wrap-up talk show about their time on the show. Hmm. This makes me happy is she looks very nice Oh, she nice woman. It's not about the girl It's about the fact that you know guys no no, but It's not about the girl. It's about the fact that these guys. No, no, no. But it's not about the girl. Was she a nice lady? I didn't even see the girl. This show was about the guys and their experience on the show.

These are 65 plus guys. And every single one of them was crying about the fact that they were able to, for three months, have honest, was crying about the fact that they were able to, for three months, have honest, earnest relationships with other men in their age range. And it was so clear that none of these guys had a single honest male friend. They were literally like, I just want to support you. I just

want to like, it's just, it's about being together and like, what's your, what are you going through? And some of these guys, their wives had passed away years before and they were never going to date. And it was, it was so interesting to me to see a random allotment of men from all over the country having this, it had nothing to do with the woman. It had nothing to do. They were all like, all that I cared about was, and they were like, I mean, it was just, it was something that I, for me, watching it,

I was like, I totally understand how there are people on this planet that are especially men. I mean, there's a male depression epidemic, and it has to do with not having enough male friends that were close, because I'm very, very, very fortunate. Just this weekend, I spent in Palm Springs with four other of my friends, and we had all these conversations. We were able to talk about our lives and our wives and all these things. And people do not have that and that's a bad thing that we need to solve.

100% and I see a lot more of these micro groups that are forming, that are these bonding, connecting groups of like-minded people. And there's a few of them. Can't remember when Courtney's a part of, do you know when Courtney's a part of it? And there's one that's like, that is basically like if you're entrepreneurial,

you're kind of have this ambition thing, you can join this group and you get connected with these other males and they have the same thing. It's just tough because like because you have to figure out, do you want the diversity of this or do you want the open sharingness that comes with just being with a similar sex? And so I'll give you an example of one that I did.

So I did a eight week program with Terry Real and people know the cast of characters that I typically hang out with and a lot of those guys were also on the call. I won't call them out, but we did a weekly call. And every time Terry was very good at bringing up like, what, like, this doesn't spread outside of the Zoom call. Yeah, yeah.

Like what the fuck is going on with you and how can we support you and tell us your most intimate, vulnerable self if you knew that you could trust the men around the table to not judge you, not try and fix you, but just listen to you and support you. And the stories I heard from Fortune 500 CEOs down to people working retail,

because we had the whole spectrum, we didn't try to make it just rich people. We all have the same shit. And it's like, there's different levels of that shit, there's different nuances around all that shit, but like the power that comes from watching another dude cry and there was many, many tears over many, many weeks around shit that guys were going through.

And just being able to say, we got you, we're supportive, and let's like, and Natero was a very good facilitator, or mediator of this new thing. But like, dude, that's like that tribal shit that we've gotten away from. Totally, 100%. And like we don't even know who our fucking neighbors are now.

Oh dude. You know what I mean? And it's like, we need to get back to that. And technology is pulling us more into our phones and less into knocking on our doors and breaking bread with our friends, like neighbors. Yeah, 100%. And like, I don't know.

My hope is that we get more towards that, but I don't know how far off, how the fuck will we get here? Honestly, I don't know, but I'm glad we did. Reach out, and by the way, this is the other thing. Reach out to your friends, text your friend. Like, that's the thing that I'm like, people don't realize how close you are to that. I remember having this moment in college.

I was in a fraternity and I had a sheet like that was like the call sheet, you know what I mean? It was like, basically everybody in the fraternities phone numbers, that's literally a call sheet. And I remember having this conversation with one of our brothers and I was like, I don't feel like I know, I don't feel like any of these people are my friends.

And he was like, what are you talking about? And I was like, I don't feel like any of these people are my friends. They're in my fraternity and I see them and we hang out, but like they're not my friends. Like if I'm bored, I don't know what to do. And he was like, call somebody on the call sheet. And I go, there's no fucking way I'm going to just pick up the phone and call brother

number 30 that I know. And I would hang out at a party, but I'm never going to pick up the phone and be like, Hey, I don't, I'm not okay right now, I'd like to go and have lunch. And I know that person would have been like, fuck yeah, let's go, you know what I mean? But I would never do that. And it's a little bit the same.

And again, thankfully I'm in a place where I don't feel like this anymore, but I will say, I think if you do feel like this, there are so many people in your phone, you could just text and say, hey, what's going on? Let's chat, let's go to lunch, let's do the thing. You know what I mean? And there's this concept of, we were talking about, like, there should be an app for that. There should be an app that tells you, hey, you haven't texted this person in your phone. And I know that the texts have been very

emotionally connected. Like you, this is a person for you. Like I have people in my phone that I stopped texting because we just, you know, I loved being with them. I loved hanging out with them. And I try, you know, it's like three or four times when I'm like, let's hang out. And it's like, yeah. And then there's no follow-up from the other side. And I go, thankfully in my old age, I started to go,

I don't know if that's a person that needs to be in my life anymore. And that's not necessarily a good thing. And if there was an app or whatever that was like, hey, here's a gentle nudge. Because by the way, that person might need me and I don't know. You know what I mean?

That is the one thing I've realized that like, a lot of the times when I don't get responses back these days. Yeah, it's not about you. It's not about me. Because I've realized and I found out later that they have shit going on. Everybody does, yeah.

There was this one guy that recently, I was like hitting up and I was like, hey, blah, blah, blah, like, you know, I have a heart for you, what's the deal, blah, blah. And I was like, you know, you immediately, like, asshole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, of course, of course. And then like, he's texting, he sent me an email and he's like, oh, like I had, you know.

Went through some shit. Yeah, it was some shit. It was like it's someone passing away in his life. I was like, God damn it. Now you're the asshole. Right, but also just like you have to realize that like everybody's got their shit. I know, but also like that person could have benefited

so much from you reaching out and going, I know you're going through some shit. Oh, for sure. I'm here for you if you need me. I know you're going through some shit. Oh, for sure. I'm here for you if you need me. I've been trying to be more proactive. It's hard. It's hard. Because I've had some friends that-

It's hard for guys, right? Like, I feel like girls get this shit innately. Like, my wife has these friends that, like, she could not talk to them for two years, and then she finds out that they're going through something, and she's like, immediately, like, what do you need? How can I help you? So sorry. And then all of a sudden, they're just back something and she's like immediately, like what do you need? How can I help you? So sorry and then all of a sudden they're just back

in their lives and I feel like with guys it's like, I don't know and so this goes back to the Golden Bachelorette where I was like I was watching this thing and I was like, I get, yeah. Are you interested in something? Would you like to see? That's not, she's all right. But I feel like I get why these people were having

these existential things with just like a group. And by the way, when it's 20 year olds, they don't give a shit, they don't get it because they don't care, they don't understand that like you don't have these relationships as you get older. Anyway.

The relationships model is interesting because we've all romantically, if someone were interested romantically, like we will pursue Oh, right percent and but like when we're texting guys, I don't respond back to it. We're like fuck it. Yeah That's a different thing. But what why yeah, why don't we have that sort of intention with friendships? Yeah, you did with romantic. Yes funny is my buddy Tyler. He lives in New York and he calls me is my buddy Tyler, he lives in New York and he calls me. I'm like, fucking stop calling me, dude.

Like, just text me, dog. Like, fucking why you calling me all the time? And then like, he finally was like, dude, isn't this so much better? Like, we're actually like talking and stuff. And like, and it's like, this is why I call people because like, I think it's important and I realize he's right.

He's right. Like, it's like that, and I'm like, oh, I should call him more. Like, it's important and I realize he's right. He's right. Like it's like that and I'm like, oh I should call him more. Like it's a weird thing because we went backwards and now we're realizing we went too far. Yeah. Because there's this disconnection. Yeah.

And now we need to have more connection. And yeah, it's hard to build the group. She's like got a little dress on. I get it. Yes, she's an attractive lady. She's like, hello Alex. She's not hello Alex, me. No, she's an attractive lady. She's like, hello Alex. She's not hello Alex, me.

No, but let me ask you a question. How much would you... Horror. Would you date older? I am dating older. No, I know what it'd be like. I married someone six years older than myself. So, imagine you're not married.

Like, what's your upper limit? I can't remember when I married. Age is just a number, Kevin. I'm about- You'd go up 10 years? I mean, I've already gone up six. Oh, she's six years older? Yeah!

Fuck, that's hard. Why is it hard? It was amazing. It is amazing. She's my wife. It's amazing. It was amazing when we met. It is amazing as we stand.

Long story short, call your friends. Anyway! Thank you so much for tuning in. Hey! as amazing as we stand. Long story short, call your friends. Anyway. Thank you so much. Hey. Thank you so much. We've been talking for almost two hours. Okay. We love you. Dignation.show

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