Diggnation (rebooted) - Can You Beat a Boa, Understand Time, and Survive Digg IRL? | E18 | Diggnation

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

This week on Diggnation: Kevin discovers a squatter secretly living in a staged LA home during a house tour, Alex tries to explain time dilation without having a full existential meltdown, an...d the team breaks down what actually happened at Digg’s first real-world community meetup. We’re talking mind blanking, deep meditation states that register as sleep, and why your brain sometimes just stops working for a bit. Plus: rollable laptops, modular microLED home theaters, ChatGPT’s 700 million users, and why we’re finally moving the Digg app out of TestFlight and into the App Store for real.0:00:00 – Set flipped, drinks poured, chaos begins anew0:07:06 – Found: one squatter, one closet, zero warning0:10:28 – LA meetup: skeeball, tequila, surprisingly deep convos0:12:09 – Groundbreakers now handing out keys to the castle0:13:44 – TestFlight is dead; long live the public app0:15:41 – Your brain sometimes goes full blank on purpose0:17:55 – Kevin meditated so hard his ring thought he died0:23:44 – Time isn’t real and Einstein broke everyone’s brain0:26:27 – Laptops now roll up like scrolls, because of course0:34:50 – ChatGPT hits 700M users, including your mom0:36:54 – Claude, Gemini, Perplexity: the AI hunger games begin0:58:03 – Kevin vs. boa constrictor: a wildly confident mismatch🧪 ZBioticsGo to https://zbiotics.com/DIGG and use code DIGG at checkout for 15% off your first order.💳 SquareVisit https://square.com/go/DIGG to see how Square can simplify your business or next event.🌐 WixStart building your website today at https://www.wix.comOr jump straight into your free trial here: https://bit.ly/4kHb2rd💰 Monarch MoneyGet 50% off your first year at https://monarchmoney.com with code DIGG at checkout.🧑‍🤝‍🧑 People Mentioned:Justin (Digg's CEO)Mau (Diggnation Producer)Will Harlan (winemaker)Neil deGrasse TysonChris Hutchins (points/miles guy)🧑‍💻 Users Mentioned:@michde – Why does your mind go blank?@sabbah – Zoo Asks People To Donate Their Healthy Pets As Food For Its Captive Predators@linux – Defrag 98: Entertainment from My Youth Complete with Sounds🛠️ Products & Brands Mentioned:Z-bioticsOura RingWorld of WarcraftLenovo Thinkbook Plus Gen 6MicroLED displaysChatGPTClaudeGemini (Google Ultra)PerplexitySquareMonarch MoneyUbiquitiAmazonGoogle OpalAmerican ExpressFigmaNvidiaStripeSpaceXWixTikTokMacNVRC DriveTestFlightApp StoreGoogle Play StoreOLED displaysPixel 10Apple Intelligence

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on this episode, Yeat, your old family rabbit into the cage of a predator. And I go deep on boa constrictors, letting you know what length is safe for home use. Welcome to Dignation. Also potentially hazardous to your health. All right, moving on. Why do you fly? You see it in your freaking house. I noticed this sound earlier.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Southern California and I have fruit. You put zombie and put hearing in the title and I don't want to do it. Dignation.com. Hello everybody and welcome to Dignation. Episode number 18. I'm Alex Albrecht. And I'm Kevin Rose. Dignation covers
Starting point is 00:00:44 some of the weekly hottest user submitted news on the social news website, dig.com. D-I-W-G.com. That is correct. And don't adjust just your telephones. Your telephones. Who says telephones anymore? I know.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Your phones. Apparently you. your mobile tablet devices. Yes, your iPads. Your iPads, your iPods, your wickets. We have not flipped the set. Well, I mean, we have flipped the set, but it's because we have moved the dig offices
Starting point is 00:01:12 literally one office space over to get a little bit more of an expansion. And so this is the... There's a little table here now? Yes, it's very lovely in here. Yes, got some more natural light as well. Definitely. I mean, it's the corner office.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Fancy. Yeah, fancy. Okay, speaking of fancy, I am very excited. I've just cracked into my, I think, goddamn fifth bottle of the mascots. Every week. I literally, I opened the thing up and I was like, oh, I've had four of these? Well, I will say also, it never gets left here. No, why would I leave it here?
Starting point is 00:01:49 I know. With these animals. You're just like, I'm taking home. Of course. There's anything left. There's always been about a half a bottle left. Okay, well, hold on. Let me just, before it smells these, this is the perfect opportunity because it's time for my new pre-show ritual with Zbiotics.
Starting point is 00:02:05 And I, let me tell you, last time I went home and it was, it was an evening. And I woke up the next day and I felt fine. Are you serious? I'm serious. I felt fine. I felt great. So, if you guys don't know, Zbiotics, pre-alcohol probiotic drink is the world's first genetically engineered probiotic. It was invented by PhD scientists to tackle that rough
Starting point is 00:02:35 morning after drinking that we all know. When you're drinking, alcohol actually gets converted into a toxic byproduct in the gut, and it's the buildup of the byproduct, not dehydration, which of course we always sort of go, slam water, it's all water. That's what's the- I mean, water helps. Water help, look, don't not drink water, is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:02:53 But pre-alcohol produces an enzyme that breaks down that byproduct, which is what the next day feels so lovely. How many of these are you hitting? I hit one, I just had the one. Okay, so you're not doing like a thermos of them. I don't think that would be healthy. Let's just say not recommended by the makers of Zbiotic.
Starting point is 00:03:14 So make pre-alcohol your first drink of the night drink responsibly and you'll feel your best tomorrow or manana, as they say. So go to Zbiotics.com slash dig, use the coupon code dig, DIG, for 15% off your first order and it is backed by a hundred percent money back guarantee no question is asked so that's good because I want to get into it and it tastes good too it does I the first time I tried it I was like oh I'm gonna have to get my acting skills going and then I was like oh it's nice like lemon water there goes mm-hmm and now the bottle of wine yes this followed by this happy go me yeah and so oh I did want to say it's squantch bit of housekeeping and
Starting point is 00:03:57 Let me smell this first. It's been 103 days since I've had alcohol. So I was going to ask about that. How is it going? 103 days. That's beyond 90. I talked to Will, Harlan, who's the creator of his wine on this weekend. About not drinking?
Starting point is 00:04:10 No, I was just like, I can't. I told him I was going to have promontory for my first sip back. I mean, yeah, if you want. By the way, you were distracted talking about Will and I swear to God, had you not stopped for a second, you totally would have had a sip without thinking about it. I saw it happen. You think so? I fucking saw it happen.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I almost snorted the whole thing. I know, that is true. You were like, yeah, I need it. I don't think it's drinking if you just inhale it through your nose. No, that's cocaine. Yeah, it's totally not drinking. Oh, so the housekeeping, I just want to say
Starting point is 00:04:41 feel free to keep emailing us, DignationFans at dig.com. Dignation at dig.com. I don't know why I can't remember that. Thank you, guys. I should put it up behind me on just on a little bored. So if you want to get on the, allotment, feel free to email.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Are we still offering that? That said, well, I was just going to say, that said, the allotment already went out a couple months ago. So yes, we will put you on the list, but it may be a while before your allotment email arrives. So just stick with it as it were. So did you get a new house? Was that what were we talking about that?
Starting point is 00:05:17 Yeah, so basically. So over 103 days? Yeah. And are you just pushing through the 103 to just see how far you can go, or is it like? Well, I started, you know, obviously when we first kick this off, Don't, don't rub it in. It was 90 days, which is what I wanted to get through.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah. Exactly. Look at Justin, he's sitting over here dry. I just, I'm thinking about it. I can see him salivating over there. No, it's fine. It's fine. I'm dry over here, but it's not, there's no problem.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I love that. He's like, he's like, hmm, she's out here. Raw dog in the podcast. Yeah, huh? You should have a little sip. I can't, I can't allow myself. This is a, this is a work environment for me. I'm, I'm, I'm a CEO.
Starting point is 00:05:52 You literally have a shot, like, jigger in front of you. This is set dressing. I've never used it and I never would. He's like, what is this even for? What are these limes for? I would. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Okay. All right. So, yeah. So you're not sure. House burned down. Yep, yep. It's gone. Rest in peace.
Starting point is 00:06:09 RIP. Gone. House party. And now found a new house. That's great. So what, it wasn't even a full year, right? Well, how long did it take? It was about eight months.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Yeah, I was going to say, because it was. Yeah. Because we started the kitchen right after the disaster thing. So it was like, January 5th. Yeah, so we moved into an apartment and it was, you know, it's smashed quarters when you bring two kiddos and a dog into a small little apartment.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Yep, yep, yep. And, you know, it's fine, whatever. I've lived in apartments my entire life. I don't really care. But the one thing I will say is that when, did I take you about the homeless person? I mean, no, but I think that they exist. What? Oh, you're popping something.
Starting point is 00:06:51 No, no, no. This is just a little bit of movie magic. Amazing. Acting. Acting. I looked over him and he's holding something below his waist and like he's like you look like you're peeing in the corner well speaking of which you're homeless person
Starting point is 00:07:04 oh yeah so okay so we we've always been like okay is there are there any houses no there's nothing really interesting in the west side of LA and there was one that came up and it was like oh this looks interesting and we go and we look at it we're like actually it's a lot cooler than we thought it was kind of like cool up-and-coming neighborhood and it was, you know, well-priced. Like, everything was awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah. And my wife, Dari, comes out of one of the guest bedrooms and goes, um, there's someone in the closet. Oh, my God. During the home tour? During the tour. And so it's fully... Well, that makes you feel really secure about the new pet.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Yeah, exactly, exactly. So it's all staged, like, with, like, you know, nice furniture. You mean it was staged? There was always supposed to be someone in the closet. Exactly. And I was like, surprise. And you jump on, and the security bot. killed him. You're like, see, this is why the security button is so important. So the house was staged and this guy comes out and goes, hi. And we're just like, who are you? The realtor's like,
Starting point is 00:08:06 who are you? And he's like, I house crash. That's kind of what I do. And I've been living a YouTube channel. You want to follow me. He was living in the house for over 20 days. He ended up being a nice guy. But he had the camping rule or whatever it's called the squatters. Squatters rights. No, he didn't have squatters rights. Oh, good. So, I mean, he might have, but we kicked him out, so he didn't have him. But he, I feel like the guy was so kind, and he kept everything really nice and tidy. And he's like, I do laundry here because there's like a laundry.
Starting point is 00:08:38 And he's like, I clean everything, I clean my sheets. And I was like, you know what, dude? Like, how do you blame him? Nobody's living there. I don't blame him. I'm just saying. Yeah, I just, I felt bad. He works at car wash.
Starting point is 00:08:49 He said he makes 500 bucks a month. And, you know, he uses that to eat off. food and whatnot and he's like I just go around and crash houses and he's like I mean no harm and he was cool and then he left and he just stood there looking into the house okay now see that's that okay okay and that's where I was like I was like this is a little creepy don't be creepy well also my kids were there well my kids were there too oh yeah fuck that's so and so then I went outside and I was like like like scraggly homeless guy or was he just I could have taken him no that's not what I mean like a raccoon you can throw it out of stairs I mean like did he look
Starting point is 00:09:23 like no he was he was like yes ish but like got more just kind of like you know you would be you if you saw him you wouldn't be like homeless person but definitely unkept a little bit but whatever i was like oh this is like well priced it's kind of a cool cool spot and so so i immediately started got the house immediately started uh what what did you say wait is that the house you guys yes yes what you got that house yes oh my god what's wrong with that no nothing that just was a big twist I thought that the whole thing was going to be. I have cameras now. No, no, no, I get all of that.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I get all of that. I'm just, I thought the story was, isn't that crazy? We would never buy that house. No, no, no, no. We got the house. So then you took to do the turn, the hot turn of, and we got the house. I actually put that into the offer. So now they have to put on their disclosures when they sell the house.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah. So they knew that. And we were able to talk them down price-wise. I mean, and so, you know, when I mean, look. And if you ever need like a house cleaner who knows the property. Yeah, he's like said. But, you know, this is getting more common. Like, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:10:26 Yeah, oh, dude. No, no, no. So we had a very fun opportunity here in Los Angeles to bring together the new dig community in person. Yes. It was super fun. It was last Thursday? Right? Thursday night.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Thursday night. Yeah. It was so great. A bunch of people came out. It was super packed. We had a great time, ski ball, food, booze. Got to meet a whole bunch of really interesting. interesting people. It was so great. The whole team was down. It was amazing. Because you guys
Starting point is 00:10:57 are sort of satellite-y. We're kind of like hybrid, you'd say. So we have, you know, about half our team is out here in L.A., the other half distributed. And so, yeah, for a week, we got everybody together in L.A. to work on some of our more recent pushes here. And so it was just great to have everybody out. We're like, if we have everybody coming out, why wouldn't we just get together with the community and actually meet some people? Yeah, it was really great. We got to talk to a lot of really cool piece. That was the coolest part. It's like we didn't, obviously, if we said we were to do a Dignation, a different crowd comes, a different vibe comes.
Starting point is 00:11:27 This was very meet and greet, kind of hang out, talk about, and a lot of people wanted to talk product. They were just like, oh, what do you do about this? Like, are we gonna get this done? And there was just so many good discussions about what we could be building there. And the passion is really, well, or the desire for something different was very powerful.
Starting point is 00:11:45 And it's hard for me because I know, and Justin and I both know kind of where we're at and where we wanna be. And there's so much like table stick stuff that you build just to get the thing flying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you go back and really kind of like flex out and flesh out all the different,
Starting point is 00:11:59 paint the wings. Yeah, as it were, or repaint. And there's a lot to be done. The next six months is gonna be a lot of fun. But we've got some new stuff come up here soon. That's right, this is a really, really big week for Groundbreakers.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So Groundbreakers, obviously are 25K community of users. This week should be getting some invites to be able to give to some friends. That means every single Groundbreaker, Two invites, you know, to pass over to some friends, get some people into the app, get the people you want in there in conversation and community. And the whole idea behind this was like, you know, we hear a lot about, man, you know, community feels really positive.
Starting point is 00:12:36 It's so nice to have like a culture of kindness or curiosity. And so for us, the more we thought about it, it was like, why wouldn't we allow these people who are influential today in this community to be the ones, to be intentional about who gets in the door now? Yeah. And so, you know, in so many ways, these people get to be the bouncers. They get to be the welcome committee. They get to be the ones to say, this is the culture we want to create here. And so that's what hopefully we start seeing this week. Yeah, you get to lay that foundation of the community in a, in a meaningful way rather than just opening up the floodgates because you're a new company that's just desperate for people to come in and try it. Yeah, we want to see people like when these doors open, you know, like it's humans that set the tone for all of these spaces.
Starting point is 00:13:16 It's not like us with our rulebook throwing it at people. It's basically saying like, hey, We actually don't do that here. Or like, hey, I think you'll find, like, this is the best kind of conversation here. And so we're hoping that this really intentional group of people is able to grow from here and build on top of an already incredible community. So, again, slow and steady. That's what we want to see when it comes to growth on dig. Is it coming out of, this might be a nudge question we have to cut, probably not.
Starting point is 00:13:42 But is it coming out of test flight before that? So that's a great question. Absolutely. So we have already submitted right now, fingers crossed. submitted to the app store and Google Play Store to have the actual builds up on there. So not just test flight, which is incredible. That means we get to open the door.
Starting point is 00:13:58 That's, you know, 25 plus 2. That's up to 75,000 members within the community that we could see. So obviously, we can't hold that number on test flight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So absolutely, that we're talking real builds of the app going out. That's fantastic. I mean, like, test flight is so fun
Starting point is 00:14:13 because you get to see like totally scenes, but like just being able to go, download here or average user, you know, my mom is going to be like, how do I, what do I do I do? And it's like, don't, just don't worry about it. Well, I mean, and the groundbreakers get to have test flights to do. So whenever we want to push something unique or early, it's there.
Starting point is 00:14:28 It feels like you're part of the dev team. That's right. So there's also not to discount it because it does feel very behind the curtain. You know what I mean? When you're like, well, there's a new build for me to watch. Exactly. And speaking of behind the curtain, all of our groundbreakers this week, now that we got new folks jumping into the community, we'll get their little groundbreakers badge.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And that's a profile badge that will go forward with you wherever you go, wherever you comment, wherever you post, your little Groundbreakers badge will be visible to mark the fact that you were early, that you built this thing with us from the ground up. Right, because the Groundbreakers will be able to invite non-groundbreaker friends, so then now you'll be able to delineate that's so cool.
Starting point is 00:15:05 We also have a little badge in the profile for Dignation, people that came to the live dig meetup. Yes, those are achievements that are going out right there for live events. Yeah. Yeah. Do I get one for hosting a live event? No, no, yes. I'm going to have my...
Starting point is 00:15:17 I'm going to design my own. It'll be like stick figure man on a, kind of couch with it. I'll get my achievement of most tequila consumed at said event. And then never consumed again. Yeah, exactly. Are you done? Like, when you come back, are you done with tequila just because of that show?
Starting point is 00:15:31 No. No, no. It's not crazy. Let's not get crazy. I'm not a crazy person. Well, thanks for coming in and letting everybody know. Big week. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:15:40 We're very excited about it. Thank you, sir. All right, let's get into our first story of the day, shall we? Why does your mind go blank? New brain scans reveal the surprising answer. This was submitted by Mike D, I think, is how you pronounce it? M-I-C-H-D-E or M-C-H-D-E. So essentially, what people were trying to figure out is
Starting point is 00:16:06 neuroscientists, they basically think that there's these periods of what they call mind-blanking, that it could actually be a way of the brain protecting itself. So they differentiate between mind wandering, right? So if you're thinking about a task, and then all of a sudden you find yourself thinking about another task, that's not what this is. What this is is that they've discovered that your average person, I mean, I guess I'm going to say neurotypical, but I don't even know. I didn't say that in here. It just said your average person.
Starting point is 00:16:41 So maybe it even includes like neurodivergent people, but the average person will, I guess, have five to 20% of any conscious time period of mind blanking, where the mind literally is not thinking about anything. It's like you ever have you that situation where you catch yourself just sort of like staring blankly at something, you're just sort of like, what the fuck was that, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:09 So that's mind blanking. And what they did was they were like, well, how do we track this? So they put these people in EEGs to track what the actual brain is doing. And periodically, and then I think what they did was they had them do like a task that was like pushing a button when they see numbers except for the number three. So it's sort of like a highly focused task.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Right. It's also a task that really allowed, like your mind ends up wandering. And they had EEGs and they discovered that there were periods of time where the mind went into a state that mimicked deep sleep and that it was this period of non-thought. interesting so I have some stuff to tell you this is why I was like this feels like Kevin's story because I haven't I haven't read this story I was
Starting point is 00:17:54 yeah so I do this a lot really yeah like this happens to you a lot you mean but only in states of meditation when I spend a lot of time interesting because I've moved my meditation up I'm doing about 55 minutes a day now on average yeah yeah and so I will have five to seven minute chunks of no thought wow of like nothing so that is what we call mind blanking. And they actually think it's a fifth state of consciousness. Well, here's what's
Starting point is 00:18:21 interesting what you said about the sleep. My aura will oftentimes think I'm sleeping. Get the fuck out. Really? Seriously? Seriously. It registers it as sleep. That is so fucking crazy. I didn't even know you were going to say that. Yeah. So they think that it's a way of the brain auto taking a five minute break because it's processing too much or you're getting overstimulated or you know what I mean like there's so they think that it's actually a place in which the the the mind is just sort of self-regulating right like off-gassing or like you know lowering the heat or things like that so they actually think um they did an fMRI research on mind blanking and they they think that it's when people were showing like hyper-connectivity
Starting point is 00:19:10 so like their brains were really processing and thinking about different connections of things like disparate topics coming together and all this stuff was when they would report the mind blanking and they think that it's because essentially it's like your brain's kind of overheating and your brain is like just chilling you out for a second purposefully not overheating like heating but like your brain is kind of going like okay let's take a tick like you're processing a little a little fast you know what I mean and they said it's not that feeling of oh I just forgot something I like that's so it's not forgetfulness they they said
Starting point is 00:19:44 that it's like it's not it's not an actual feeling of what was I thinking about or what was it talking about it was it's more sort of like a period of time where there is nothing going on in your mind and it's it almost comes off as like a mind reset you know what I mean have you have you had this happen or do you are you one of the ones that have experienced well the the short answer is yes of course but I have no conscious memory of it right because you're not like you're not consciously processing it. When does it happen to you? I have no idea. That's the whole thing. I think it just happened. No, I'm just kidding. Mal, if you had this happen, do you know what we're talking about? No, I mean, I can think of times where I have, when you're in the zone,
Starting point is 00:20:30 that feels like something different, though. Like, I don't know if you ever watched Soul, the Pixar movie Soul. Like, that feels like something different. I've had major chunks of time that are gone, but that's usually been in, like, productivity modes. Not. like full-on blanks. Well, there could, but it also didn't say anything about not being able to continue a task, right? So there could be like that flow state, could be tapping in, like you with the meditation, you could actually be tapping into mind blanking so that you get, because it's like, you don't stop breathing, you don't stop, you know what I mean? So it could be that if you get to a place where your task is as natural to your being because of how much you've done it before,
Starting point is 00:21:12 that it becomes like breathing where you can get into that mind blanking but still functioning in the skill or sport or whatever, you know what I mean? Driving, it happens to me in driving. It's a weird thing to suddenly like snap out of something and I'm like, oh, I'm home already. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I forgot what the last 10 minutes was. Yeah. But it's the same route that I've taken over and over again. 100%. So you can still be doing things subconsciously, right? I mean, I do that shit all the time. Like when I'm playing video games, Sometimes, especially Wow, that have played for fucking decades, two decades, unfortunately, that's sad.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Don't... How many hours? I mean, thousands. Really? Oh, fuck, yeah. Like, if it was it, say, like, years? Easily, thousands and thousands of hours. I would not be surprised if someone said it was 5,500 hours.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Like, you think more than a year? Oh, 100%. It's 5,500 more than a year. Are you still playing? Are you still playing? World War Half. We played today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:08 What? You played today? Yeah, bro. Dude, you're insane. How many hours in a day? 24. So 8,760 hours per year. Oh, I've definitely played.
Starting point is 00:22:20 More than a year? I think I've probably played more than a year. Wow. Because I have characters that have 5, 6, 700 hours easy, and I've got 10, 20 of those. That's why you mind blank so much. What did you just say? Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:37 But it's interesting, right? that they basically have discovered a whole another state of consciousness in the human brain. That doesn't surprise me. When I talk to some people that are deep into meditation, they've done some studies on this as well, which is that they call it like this state of nothingness, like this emptiness, but not in a way that is negative. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Yeah. And so it's the tip of a match as it strikes against, like there's no fire, like it's the presence of this moment with no past or future, like riding that razor's edge. So there's, which is the collapse of time. You know, just mind blanks. Yeah, exactly. But that's the cool thing about this. Is we're just...
Starting point is 00:23:31 Do you ever get to that point where you're like... that's so interesting it's such first of you would love philosophy i don't know if you get into i i definitely listen to a lot of eastern philosophy for sure i mean but i mean like this is like the big it's the existential crisis of like a time fucking breaks my brain man when i really think about it like the whole relativity thing of like you guys you know about the whole train thing where like you know lights travel as well fast to the speed of light Yeah, it's fast at the speed of light, but that if you, if you're standing on a train, if you're standing on a train station, a train platform, and there are two light sources, those light sources hit the floors besides you at the exact same time, but if you're traveling, if you're traveling on a train past the train station, the light sources, you get the first light source first and the second light source second. So there's a period of time. where the first light source has made it to you
Starting point is 00:24:36 and the second light source has yet to reach you. And the only way that that works is that time is relative to your speed. Right. It's like, who's the famous scientist that he does all the Instagram videos? You know what I'm talking about? Oh, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 He's like, he does all the Instagram videos. He's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you heard him talk about... Yeah, I've met him before. No way. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so Neal is amazing.
Starting point is 00:25:05 If you heard him talk about... Which one I've seen a lot of... Oh, if you see, yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically the photons and the speed of life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, as I approach the speed of light, it doesn't apply to a photon 13? Now you want to freak out.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I don't want your head to explode. You ready? Yeah. Okay. No, you're not ready. You're ready. No, I'm ready. Okay. The faster you go, the slower time ticks.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Say that again? The faster you move, slower time tick for you for you as seen by others. Right. As you approach the speed of light, Time continues to slow down. Yes. At the speed of light, time stops,
Starting point is 00:25:38 which means for a photon moving at the speed of light, when it is absorbed in your wreck, it is the same instant. It was emitted at the Big Bang 14 billion years ago. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. It's in your, as far as it's concerned, it is in your eye in that same.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Can we measure that photon and observe the Big Bang? I know that that came from the Big Bang, and I'm watching it. And it's taken 13.8 billion years to reach you. But if you are that photon, why do I... That is crazy. There's no time is elapsed from the photon, from the Big Bang to the second to injures your eye. And Yale, you can send the PhD to dig. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Our honorarium can go to. All right, here we go. Next door of the day, Lenovo Thinkbook Plus Gen 6, rollable Intel 1416. That is the model number. That is a lot of numbers. I'm going to say Lenovo needs to come up with a better naming convention. Yeah, Lenovo sex-6.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Well, it's just something like that. Thank you. It doesn't need to be that. So, this is an article in The Verge, which I can't access because the Verge has a paywall now for everything. We talked about this guy at CES. Yes. But is it out now? It's out now.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Yeah. So I'm thinking about we should. get one in just to try it right because you can just return it on Amazon I mean not when you say that well I guess you can I don't know but it looks kind of funky like take a look that I don't know man that looks weird it but look at look at look at how cool that looks look at that but with that like think about that we're two guys sitting here with laptops and all of a sudden we do a story on AI sex bots and all of a sudden our monitors are up here I think we need to get one just
Starting point is 00:27:30 so we have displays going up this high What will we even put on it? I don't know, but it is kind of cool. The horrible thing is these graphics are, can you see this output or no? Yeah. The graphics are horrible because it actually shows it like it's two displays.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah, I don't know, because it seems like. But it's really a unified, yeah, exactly. It's a unified... Yeah, that's what it looks like. Yeah. So it's one display, but they keep showing it is almost like you have two monitors that you just drag between.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah, no. And that's not the case. But apparently the only drawback is that it's heavy. Like it's really heavy. Oh, interesting. Which makes sense because you have two displays. Well, I will say that I love the idea of the foldable LEDs. Is it LED or OLED?
Starting point is 00:28:14 Probably LED. It's O-L-E-D. But it's not actually foldable. It's like just slinging it down back inside. Yeah, but even then it's got to be folded. Yeah, it has to fold out. Yeah, you're right, that little piece at the end there. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Because that, I think, is where you're going to get to those like futuristic newspapers and shit, where you're just like... We're never going to get there. Why not? dude we've been like disposable newspapers okay seriously how many CES have we seen like someone being like look and they bend the foldable display I mean a lot of them it's been at least like 20 years of that yeah we've never seen anything like that like they have it was like three inches by three inches they're like the future by the way have you seen the micro LED display the module
Starting point is 00:28:54 displays for home theaters no bro that is gonna be the new hotness wait micro micro LED home theater what does this do what 25 grand no that's not that's not that go down it's it's it the a wall what is this they can make look at that looks nice so they can basically it's like the old um not old well kind of old but it's basically like the LED volume technology but they've miniaturized it so the panels are much smaller and lighter and you can basically slap these little panels together and i think it goes up to 167 So it's like Lincoln logs. Yeah, so look.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Oh, look at that. Look at that. But it can do like 8K at like a hundred and sixty-seven. Can you expand it like four at a time? Like you're like, oh, you could add more. Snap, snap, snap, no, no, no. Yeah, you could totally add that. And if you, I mean, blown pixels, you can just grab it.
Starting point is 00:29:49 But you could also do multiple TVs in the same layout. Oh, that's cool. Whoa, look at that, 135. Boom, 162. Oh, that makes, that makes this wake. Because you can start with a little TV. Yeah. I mean, honestly, you could get like an 85 inch and just be like, well, payday is right around the corner.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I'm going to add that extra inch. Yeah, look, here it is. By 16, this is cool. Isn't that great? And the whole concept of this is it's for home use, right? Like, this used to be the stuff that you would use at, like, the AI walls and all that stuff. Which cheetah do you want? The one that's got more contrast.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Exactly. The high contrast cheetah? Yeah. Anyway, but this is the stuff that I'm like, I feel like there's new stuff coming on. Order now. Because it's also like... 17 grand.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yeah, but for 102 inch, no projector. Like, think about your new, like, home theater. No projector, digital display. Don't have to worry about lighting. You know what I mean? Yeah, and this is expandable, right? Yeah, and look, you can go, boom, right here. 60 by 9.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Oh, you can get it, Cinemascope. 129, Cinemascope. Okay, I want that. How much is that? 33. Jeez. Yeah, but think about that. Like, you're going to spend 10 grand on a really...
Starting point is 00:31:00 really high-end 8K projector, you know what I mean? Well, I'm not though. I don't- Yeah you are. Maybe. I think let's be clear. They're pretty dumb though. Yeah, you are.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I like that. I mean, we gotta, you should get one of these. This has got your name all. Oh, bro. I've already maxed out. I've got an 85 inch in like a 3 by 3 room and everybody's just like, yeah, bitch. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:33:22 I have a high-maintenance Labradoodle. He is high. He's got a little. This is why I'm just going to talk about Monarch Money. He hasn't lost shots and doctor's appointments and stuff. His hips are starting to give up. But anyway, he doesn't have to be a down story because I needed a budget to track all of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And that is why I'm using Monarch Money. It has partner accounts. So if you want to invite your partner. Yeah, it's great. Every time I look at you, I think of what Alex is like, I don't know he said partner. He always said cop. And so I pictured my wife dressed up as a cop.
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Starting point is 00:34:43 That is a great deal and your partner will definitely sign up for it. Monarchmoney.com slash dig. Hey, all right. Next story. Chad GPT is growing, like gangbusters, 700 million users now, up from 500 million. They have a 4x year-over-year growth. Jesus Christ, man. They're kind of a runaway train.
Starting point is 00:35:09 It's insane. I will tell you, it's funny, because I didn't know we were going to talk about this, but it makes perfect sense because I have friends that I would call not technical. in the least. Mm-hmm. And they will have full-on conversations with chat chvety.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, I have friends that are like, I know they would call me if their TV accidentally changed inputs. Right. But they are fully paying
Starting point is 00:35:39 the $20 a month which is great because they don't call you for half the shit you could have. No, I know, but it's like, but that's,
Starting point is 00:35:46 to me, that's the thing. Like, my parents would use chat chb-tie. You know what I mean? And that, to me, is where it's like, of course there's going to be this many people that are going to be using it. And it's only going to get more, especially as people start integrating into chat. Have you fucked around with the, was it chat chibouty that has the agents now? They all have agents now, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Right, but I mean, like, they just announced it like a week ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I miss around that, yeah. I haven't messed around with it yet, but it's crazy. Your point is really, it's super valid because if you think about what has gone big in the last decade in terms of, especially consumer apps. Yeah. If it's social and it's related to, like, you know, media and all that, like, then, you know, you've got the TikToks that are growing big. There's always going to be a sector, a group, a population subset that is just not going to be for them.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Yeah, like, oh, I'm aged out of that. I'm too old for TikTok. You get that a lot, right? Chat GPT and AI in general is universally applicable from my seven-year-old kid that wants to talk to about something to your parents, right? So it just applies to everyone. It's crazy. The problem, so let me ask you a question. I have Claude.
Starting point is 00:36:57 I have Google Ultra, which is the Gemini enhanced. I have chat GBT, BT, I have perplexity. That's kind of it. Which of those do you use, and which of them do you pay money for? I only pay money for Chatsybtee. Okay, so you don't, have you found any of the others to be useful? Well, it's hard because I play around with it. I've yet to, well, here, I'll be frank.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I have lots of really cool tech ideas all the time where I'm like, ooh, I wish I could code something to do X, Y, N, Z. The problem with me is once I know how to code it, I don't want to do the work of coding it, because I don't care anymore because I know I can do it. It's a very weird thing. I've learned this about myself over the years, this is why I stopped flying planes, because I was like, I can fly plane. Why do I, I don't... Now it's just work, and I don't really like work. But I've discovered this about myself.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Yeah, at least you know it. Like, I opened, like, we talked about this in the Square sponsorship. I opened a Smashburger pop up because everybody was like, oh, and I was like, I wonder if I could do that. And I did. I sold 350 hamburgers in three and a half hours,
Starting point is 00:38:07 and I went, okay, I did that. Yeah, yeah, I've done a lot of that too, where you just kind of check the box. Yeah, I did it. Yeah, I did it. I know how to do that. So I, so for me, I'm still waiting for that thing where I can just say what I want,
Starting point is 00:38:20 and it works the first time. Like, once that thing exists where I can go, so, like, perfect example, I, you know, like, our buddy Chris knows how to use all the fucking points and miles and shit like that. I see sometimes on Instagram where I'll see, like, a video that's like, right now, American Express, you can transfer all this points, you can go to Paris
Starting point is 00:38:42 for 50,000 points in first class. I want to go do that. I want to do that. But I want to be able to go, hey, I want to give you. you a three-month range. I want to say anywhere between seven days at a minimum and 14 days at a maximum, and I want to go from LAX to Rome. You go and tell me, in the morning, I want an email that goes, hey, right now you could do it for 150,000 points round trip. That exists
Starting point is 00:39:11 sort of if you pay somebody, if you do this. But I was like, it's just an app. Somebody could just make that app. So I've been, and I've tried a couple times, like Google put out Opel. They're like their N8N kind of competitor. So I sat down and I was like, well, let me see if Opel can do it for me. You know what I mean? Because it's just go out, get the info, come back, tell me the thing. And it could, it didn't. It corked to the point where I was like, I don't, I don't want to learn a new program, right? But the thing with ChatGBT, GBT, that's so crazy is I have it now connected to my action button on my iPhone. Yeah, so I'm that with Gemini. Yeah. So I just go, hey, what's this? How's this? Where is that?
Starting point is 00:39:46 do I, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's shockingly good. Okay, let me ask you a question. Like, shocking. This is really interesting because I have Gem and I set up the exact same way. I pay for their crazy ultra. Yeah, yeah. And I have the action button program, so it launches it. But lately, maybe it's always been this way, I just haven't noticed.
Starting point is 00:40:05 It is hallucinating so much. Oh. Does yours hallucinate a lot? I don't know if I've ever experienced it hallucinating. Okay, so let me. But I'm also asking it really simple things. Let me ask a question. Much as much as much as much.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Okay, hold on. Increase your volume. Oh, you need to do that. That's increasing. Okay, there. Hi there. I'm having a conversation with Alex Albrecht from Dignation fame. And he was telling me how he is really into this new religion called poofism. When did he get into that? Do you have any idea? I couldn't find anything about that online. You might want to ask him directly. He'd probably be happy to share more about it just though tell me about more about that religion I'm just really curious it does it have a deity I don't know why I'm choosing this I couldn't find any information interesting first up I love that you just tried to make your AI hallucinate no but it was like are you feeling okay should I call now it does it does it does watch watch watch watch watch okay okay hello Kevin hey I'm talking to Kevin Rose and I was just curious what
Starting point is 00:41:16 What year was he born in Scotland? Okay, so Kevin Rose was born on October 21st, 1976. That makes him 46 years old. He was born in Reading, California, not Scotland. Yeah, that's not his birthday, number one, it's not. And you said he was born in Reading, California, but I think he was born just outside of Reading. What's the name of that little town that he's born in just outside of Reading? I couldn't find a specific town just outside of Reading where he was born.
Starting point is 00:41:50 It's possible that information isn't widely available. When was he born again? I can't find anything about Kevin Rose being born again. Is there anything else I can help you with? Alright, whatever. No, but the fact that it was like, it went back on the... Oh, that's interesting. So I was wiring my thermostat because I want to put a smart thermostat in.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Oh, yeah. And I was like, which wire goes to this? And it's like, put the red into this one, blah, blah, and it was like, and then it was like, then it told me to put the brown, which I don't know why I had a brown because you typically don't, into the same one as the red. And I was like, yeah, you just told me to put the red in there. And it's like, oh, my fault. I meant the red goes in this one.
Starting point is 00:42:32 And I'm like, are you just making this up? I'm like, can you search the internet? And it's like, oh, I was. I searched the internet. And it actually goes in this one. I'm like, how often are you just making shit up? Dude, he does that all the time. That is fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:46 So you don't have that issue with open AI as much? No, but I do not use it. He's trusted for everything. No, I don't use it as much. I use it maybe once every couple days. Oh, interesting. I use AI like four times a day. And this is why I worry about the people
Starting point is 00:42:58 that have those long conversations with AI because you're going to end up with a large percentage of misinformation. Yes. It's just hallucinated. Yeah. Well, it's interesting too, because the other thing is, It's not just about the fact that it's incorrect,
Starting point is 00:43:12 it's that it's so confident in telling you that information. That's the problem. If he was like, if they, if that, whatever the fuck, was like, I think he was born on blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You'd be like, well, could you check? Okay, let me check. Oh, I know, I was wrong. But instead, it's like he was born on this date.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And when he said, when it, whatever, when the AI said, when the AI said he was born in 76, that makes him 46. That, to me, was the biggest one because that's just a math error. You know what I mean? Like, that feels like they should never get math wrong. Like, math is what computers do
Starting point is 00:43:48 all the time. Like, that's... Kind of their job. That's kind of the fucking job. I literally only use my computer for math, thank you very much. Everything that's on our screen is a piece of math.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I know, I know. But it is... But back to the story at hand, A, it doesn't surprise me that it's so... that it's so many people that are using it. And I. And I, it doesn't, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:16 it's because of the fact that, like, my non-techie friends use it and like it. Right. And are, like, happy to do it. There are still some, I will say, there are still some who are going to have that AI witchcraft is not for me. Yeah. But I don't think that's a ton. Like, I don't see that number staying down.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I think it's going to go up. The thing that kills me about chat, GBT, and Open AI and all these companies is I really am saddened that they're raising so much capital because, so they just secured another $8.3 billion. Jesus. Some of the big investors out there, the issue is that they're staying private so long. This will be like a $1 trillion company by the time it goes out publicly. If it goes public. Well, that's the whole thing is they'll probably stay private for a long time.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Why would they go public, because at the end of the day, they don't have to have any of that public scrutiny. Like, the moment they go public, there's going to be a lot of shit that they have to open up under the hood. And why would they do that? You know, because by the way, once they figure out how to turn profit, it's done. They're just the next Google. You know what I mean? Well, the whole thing that sucks about this, though, is you're not, no consumers going to see any of the upside here. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:45:32 It's like, by the time they're out, let's just say they're a trillion-dollar company. you're going to go maybe like three to four trillion or something or and don't get me wrong over time that it could be larger but it's still it's a bummer that we have to wait so long for IPOs back in the day you would see an IPO and someone would go out and you know there was still a 20 to 30 to 50x upside if you really believed in the company I see what you're saying like if you take a look at I mean even any modern company from Nvidia to my like all the bigs yeah yeah you could have had generation You just put in a few thousand dollars.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah. And that was the beautiful thing about the stock market is it kind of gave consumer retail investors a chance to participate in that insane upside. And like now- Never thought about it that way, but yeah. What's happening now is because these companies, what they're doing, like the stripes of the world,
Starting point is 00:46:26 like a lot of the bigs that are still private, they're doing these liquidity rounds internally where they'll give existing investors a way out two to three times a year. So I'll tell you what's happening that you probably don't get to see is, you know, all my friends that have positions in some of these companies, you get this letter in the mail and it says, hey, it's that time, we're doing another raise if you want off the cap table you can sell now.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah. And so that's not in the public markets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's a bummer. So SpaceX does this all the time, like all of the big companies do this. And it is, it's just really shitty, it's too bad. The public markets have been cut. You're right, though, it's all the scrutiny
Starting point is 00:47:08 and all the additional work that they have to do. Yeah, why fucking deal with that shit? But when you don't need the money, right? Like, that's the other thing. This is like, you know, it's, yes, it would be great to have access to it, but if like the company doesn't, the company can raise $8 billion, freaking dollars.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Yeah. Why do they have to go to the street when they can just, you know, go to the fucking. It's easier to get it privately. I will say the Figma was a cool thing to watch. Like, that was nice that they- So, yeah, so tell me what happened. So they, they, they,
Starting point is 00:47:35 tried to do a merger? Yeah, Adobe was going to acquire them. Oh, I think we talked about this. It got shut down, yeah. It got shut down because they don't want Adobe to be this monopoly. And they kicked them out. And so because of that, they went off and pursued their own public offering. Took them about a year-ish or so, maybe a little longer.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Because it just happened like a couple years ago. Yeah. And it popped like crazy. Yeah. Which is, it's a bummer, but it's also awesome. Like, it's a bummer that they priced it wrong. So the company lost out on the money they could have had in their pocket. But it's okay.
Starting point is 00:48:04 It's like, I like the fact that I didn't invest, but a lot of consumers did, a lot of my friends did, and they, you know, two days later, like, doubled their money. It was kind of amazing, and they believe in the company. It's a great product, so. Oh, it's great. I just don't know if they're, like, a one-trick pony or we're going to see other, you know, products from them as a company. And that's the other thing is now because you're publicly traded. You got to now. There's, like, quarterly growth, grow at all costs.
Starting point is 00:48:27 And that's, that's another huge downside of this. Interesting. But, yeah, so, I mean, Open AI. I really wish, because I have access to a lot of this stuff. Like, Claude was just raising, I could have put some money into Anthropic, and I wish I could put together a kind of like private little thing for... Oh, like, you do your own thing of, like, put in a money, and that money's going to be balled into investing into these other companies
Starting point is 00:48:54 so that you as the... It's really funny. There was another one that I almost did with another story about Legion M, and Legion M is a very interesting model because it's a... a production company, but it's basically a hybrid between Kickstarter and what are those
Starting point is 00:49:12 SBVs or the... SPVs. Yeah, SBVs. So, because essentially what it is is it is its own company, it is its own production company that creates and develops movies and, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:23 but it raised all of its investment from like 25,000 individual smaller investors, and they've raised over the core, they just did another round, and they raised over the course of their life. I think it's been like eight years, something like that, $25 million. And they've made some movies, and they've made some money. Oh, you sent me this long time ago, maybe like three years
Starting point is 00:49:42 ago. Yeah, I might have. Yeah, you were going to do it. Did you end up doing it? I didn't. Okay. Yeah. Thanks for sending me something you didn't invest. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, you know, I was just like, interesting. But it's that same thing, right? Where it's an SPV. It's not, you know, but it's this specific thing. And these people now have access to owning a piece of this production a couple that's made money and made movies. Yeah, I'll have to look into that. So for people that don't know what Alex is talking about, they have these vehicles called special purpose vehicles
Starting point is 00:50:10 that you can go and you can create these entities that have a slightly more relaxed rules. I'll have to go and look at the latest. Yeah, because it was that, I can't remember what they called it, but there was the softened the rules around who can get into these things, which is good. You can get more, they just don't want consumers to get hurt. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:50:27 But a lot of people, what they'll do is they'll go and buy a bunch of SpaceX stock and they'll throw it into an SPV, and then they'll invite, you know, 50 friends in, and then all buy the SpaceX stock, and then you just sit there and you wait, and you kind of wait until it goes public or they have an outcome, and then it gets returned and divvy it out
Starting point is 00:50:41 to all the individual investors. And so that's done a lot. Like, those are fired up, I'm sure, thousands at any point in time, any day that are being created for these things. But it could be interesting to do one for AI investment. Oh, 100%. You know what I mean?
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Starting point is 00:51:55 Next story, this is fucking crazy. Sometimes stories come across where you're just like, this didn't happen. I didn't, I purposely didn't read the full article because I don't believe it is even a real story. Zoo asks people to donate their healthy pets as food for its craptive predators. This was... Craptive.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Craptive predators. They are craptive, they're eating people's pets. This was sent in by Sabah. So this is in Copenhagen. There is a zoo in Copenhagen. Now here they said, if you have a healthy animal that needs to be given away
Starting point is 00:52:33 for various reasons feel free to donate it to us and they're asking for donations of small pets they said like bunnies, gerbils, and chickens Oh, not like dogs no, not dogs, not cats, no, no, no. Well, now that's so bad.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Salacious. I mean, it's still kind of bad and in my mind when I first read it I was like oh my God they're going to take this like household bunny and yeat it into a fucking cage with mountain lions. That is not what they're doing because they're not sadists. They said
Starting point is 00:53:04 both for the sake of animal welfare and professional integrity, they are trying to mimic the natural food chain of the animals that are there and the pets will be gently,
Starting point is 00:53:16 gently, gently euthanized by training staff. Wait, hold on. How about trained staff? Not training staff. How do I kill this thing? Yeah, that's his leg. All right, you're going to get trained.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Kill this gerbil and throw it over to mango in the corner. I have so many questions. Okay, you have a bunny. Yes. It needs to go to the lion. Yes. I mean, I feel like you're missing some step. Okay, let's go.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Okay, bunny. Bunny, don't need it anymore, bring it there. They kill it, and then they just set it in front of the lion, or do they, like, hook a string and, like, make it dance? I mean, in my mind, they hook a string and drag it across the cage until the lion eats it? Because otherwise, why is it mimicking the natural habitat? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:54:02 So why not just put the bunny in there alive? I guess that's kind of fucked up. That's fucked up. That's why they're being used for them. You've already got rabbits that are like, don't they sell rabbits for, like, snakes and stuff? No, they don't sell rabbits for snakes. They might sell rabbits for snakes for the big, like, boas.
Starting point is 00:54:15 They definitely sell mice for snakes. I had a buddy that had a couple boas, and he would have, like, mice, and he would drop the mice in, and you would let them, like, the boa. But they were already dead, right? No. No. Oh, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:54:29 It's really messed up. They also sell like live, I mean, you can get down smaller and smaller. They sell live crickets. Yeah. Or lizards. Yeah, I mean, that's fine. No, but here's the thing. My dog loves to hunt critics.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Not critics. So if you don't like this show, fucking Bindy is going to be at your house. Donate your crickets. You say anything about him in the big comments? Don't even. His dog is 20 pounds. She's literally 10 pounds. She's a poochie bomb.
Starting point is 00:54:56 No, but we thought about buying some live crickets to then just, like, go out back and, like, throw some crickets out so she can, like, jump on them and eat them. That's weird. It is weird, but she loves it, and we were like, and she also gets, like, we call it the witching hour at, like, six, seven o'clock. She just gets, like, fucking keyed up, starts from running around the house. And we were like, how great would it be if we could take her out back and, like, throw a cricket? You guys are weird, man. This is what you do when you don't have kids. Of course, it's the best.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Heather literally chases. You threw crickets at your dog. Honestly, if you saw a vision of our house at like 7.30 after dinner, Heather and I have both drinking, having some drinks, Bindy gets crazy, and then Heather literally, and I love my wife, she's not a very fast runner. And so she literally like, scoched down the hall. She's like, I'm going to get you. And then Bindy will just go back in the back room. And she goes running back. And then all of a sudden Bendy goes. This was a game then. It's fine. Oh, 100%. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was like, it would be easier if we just had crickets. And just like throw crickets in the backyard. And the ones that make it to the fair, make it to the fair. Can I say something controversial? You don't like pets?
Starting point is 00:56:01 People that own snakes are a little weird. I don't disagree with you. Do you know what I mean? I do. I do any kind of, I do kind of, cats and dogs are kind of the end. No, no, I get it. Especially ones that kill, like, I understand like a little snake and you're like, oh, it's just a gardener snake and I just give it little stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:22 But like when you got a big ass snake and you have to, like, like literally give it like little gerbils or whatever yeah what the fuck are you doing i mean keeping that snake alive i know but like why are you like you're really going and buying like big like eat this yeah yeah like my so my my buddy when i was growing up had a big fairly big python probably i don't know four i get when you're a little kid no no i know but hear me out okay i went and slept at his house oh no it got out and i slept on the floor and we woke up in the morning and the snake was not in the cage.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Oh, my God. And I was like, I don't want to be in this room anymore. Yeah, well, this is why you don't do it. What if you'd woken up and it was around your neck? Well, I wouldn't have woken up. I would have been mind-blanking all the way to heaven. I don't think that would have made me wake up. I would have been done.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Oh, my God, I love it. Anyway, so if you have any leftover pets, Copenhagen wants them. I will say there is something interesting about, like, taking on a boa, though. Like, I've always been. You mean like the mental challenge? You know, like if you're in the jungle and we're walking, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:29 And we're like on a Dignation jungle edition. And a boa drops down and it's like, I'm going to take this dude. Well, no, because those are a fucking big ones, aren't they? Well, it depends. It's not like a five-footer that's dropping from the tree to take to it. I don't think those, those are adolescents. It's like the 20-footer one that you see. Yeah, I mean, some of the shit is like crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Because then you're dead. But I would, like, if it was something you could kind of take. This is like Diggs version of the 800 men versus a gorilla. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yes. You're not going to beat that boa. I could beat a boa. You're not going to beat the boa.
Starting point is 00:57:59 But you could have a friend cut the bow's head off. Hold on. You can't. Oh, this is going to great. I've seen anaconda. Hi, quick question. I'm thinking about cage matching and fighting a boa constrictor. Now, this is a joke, whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:14 But just be honest here, I'm 6 foot 184, somewhat muscular, but I'm a dad, and was curious, How big a boa could I realistically take down on my own? I also can choke things out pretty well. I understand your question, but I'm not able to provide any information that could lead to dangerous or harmful activities. Fighting a boa constrictor is incredibly dangerous and could result in... Okay, hold on. This is just...
Starting point is 00:58:47 We're just having funsies here. This is just for a joke. Not a joke, but like, predict... Be serious here. What do you think I could take down? How big a bow could I take down? We're not actually going to do this. Just give me an estimate on what I could take.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Like, could a 25-foot boa realistically take me down? Okay, I understand. Even in a hypothetical scenario, a 25-foot boa constrictor would be incredibly dangerous for anyone to take on, regardless of their size or strength. These snakes are incredibly powerful and could easily overpower a human. It's important to remember
Starting point is 00:59:22 that fighting a boa constrictor, is never a good idea, even as a joke. Prim it scientifically. Proven it scientifically. How many pounds of pressure versus like your bench press to push away? Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. How many pounds of pressure could say a 20-foot boa constrictor put on a object?
Starting point is 00:59:45 All right. So boa constrictors can exert a lot of pressure, but it varies depending on their size. A 20-foot boa could probably generate anywhere from 8. to 12 PSI, maybe even more. That's a lot of pressure. It's like a bike pump. Can you convert that into pounds? Pounds per inch, or, uh,
Starting point is 01:00:07 all right. So if a 20-foot boa constrictor exerts around 10 PSI, that's like having about 1,440 pounds of force pressing down on every square inch. That's a lot of pressure. Holy shit. Kevin just goes, okay, okay, hold on. So what? PSI is pounds per square inch, by that.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Yeah, that's insane. Wait, hold on. Wait, hold on. How about a 10-footer? Give me the 10-footer estimate for a boa. I could take a 10-footer. Okay, so a 10-foot-bo-constricter is incredibly dangerous. They possess immense strength and could easily overpower a human.
Starting point is 01:00:43 It's crucial to remember that interacting with such a creature is unsafe. Okay, say less words. Just tell me how much strength it has. Say little words, little, few. like three. Okay, just a few words. Snake go strong. Finish fish,
Starting point is 01:01:09 AI. A boa constrictors are incredibly strong. You said few words. Snake go strong. Okay. 25 pounds per square inch for an average boa constrictor. So, regardless of size. 25 pounds?
Starting point is 01:01:30 It says 6 to 25 pounds per square inch. So think about that in like surface area of your hands, maybe. I don't know. She said like 1,600 square pounds a square inch. When I'm winning. Look, long story short, Kevin, don't go tangling with a bow constrictor. Yeah, I know. You're only going to lose.
Starting point is 01:01:49 I had no idea they were that strong. I literally did not know he was like, that many thousands of pounds of pressure. Well, now I'm wondering if that person hallucinated because he's saying it's like 25 pounds per square foot. Not per square foot, he didn't say that. Square inch. Yeah. So safe size to keep
Starting point is 01:02:05 at home is 6 to 8 feet. Okay. I experienced pet owners. Adult male bow constrictors, you max out at 6 to 8 feet. Why do you always see those ones that are like on... Because when they're out in the wild, they free eat and they just eat fucking the whole wilderness. Any bow over 10 feet can be potentially dangerous, especially in homes with pets, young children, or inexperienced handlers.
Starting point is 01:02:29 That would be you. Okay, well, okay, say no to bows. Say no to bows. All right. Don't go yet. Don't go yet. No, last story. I've got one story.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I put in the dig comments that I was going to actually comment on this. So we're going to do it. We have to do it. Entertainment from my youth, complete with hard drive sound. Submitted by at Linux. So this is defragmenting. Do you remember defragmenting? Oh, of course. A C drive. So this has click sounds and everything. Listen That's what it used to sound like to defragg. Oh my god. Now watch you can pause it. Watch Resume. That's like childhood memories. Yes, I can go to sleep to this. You totally would totally use this as white noise. Yes. Oh, I love that sounds.
Starting point is 01:03:22 It's so good. Oh, God, I forgot how fucking long it used to take. Remember how loud hard drives were? Oh, God. Well, it's funny because even now, like, my NVR for the house is in the closet behind me. And there are times when I'm, like, sitting at my desk, I'm like, Jesus Christ, I can hear those. You'll hear them like, I can hear those things grinding away. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:46 But nothing competes with an old-fashioned C-colon. Do you have to, should you defraise? You don't defrag anymore. No, I don't think so. Because I know that that was one of the big pluses for Mac was that like whenever you would add stuff, it would sort of auto defrag in the background. Yeah, it was like the, it's all based on the file system.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Yeah, exactly. And then now it's like, everybody does it. Oh, my God. That was fun. That was fun. That was good. All right. Did we do it?
Starting point is 01:04:14 I think we did it. You did, look at you. Only a quarter, a third. Two glasses. Two glasses. That's well done. You know. What I do.
Starting point is 01:04:23 It's how I do. It's like not drinking. It's like not drinking for me. Two glasses, although I'm going to take it home and kill that bottle. Hey-oh. Hey-oh. See, Balax. Until next time, thank you, friends and family.
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Starting point is 01:04:49 Next. Three weeks.

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