Diggnation (rebooted) - Diggnation v2.0 - We're back! #001 (2024)
Episode Date: September 2, 2024Alex Albrecht joins ‪Kevin Rose for a reunion-style episode of Diggnation, and it’s like they never left. Kevin and Alex kick things off by discussing everything from past moments on Digg...nation to current events like WWDC announcements, and the evolution of Tesla and Boeing, the latest from Apple. Guest Bio and Links:Alex Albrecht is known for his significant contributions to technology and entertainment. He is a podcast host, television personality, and tech entrepreneur. Alex gained popularity as the co-host of "The Screen Savers" on TechTV and later co-created and co-hosted the popular podcasts "Diggnation" and "The Totally Rad Show." He has also ventured into directing, writing, and game development.
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I'm Kevin Rose. And I'm Alex Albrecht. This is Weekly Podcast.
Hello, welcome to Dignation episode number 100. I'm Kevin Rose. And I'm Alex Albrecht.
Hello, welcome to Dignation episode number 250. I'm Kevin Rose. And I'm Alex Albrecht.
Come on, it's the last fucking show!
It's been a while since we've done this. Yes.
Let's talk about my dead dog on this episode of Dignation.
What is there to talk about? Health issues and death.
Dude, when you landed that helicopter on my head,
I'll give you $100 if you can land it on my head.
That was one of my favorite Dignation moments of all time.
Go back and visit all the Dignation live shows.
Never wearing a t-shirt.
Really?
Fuck no.
I kinda wanna go to the Tyson-Jake Paul fight.
We could go there, say we could do a live Dignation there.
I mean, I-
Why didn't you pick this as the last story?
Well, I didn't know it was gonna be the last story! This was really fun. This was always fun. Miss you, brother. Yeah, you too. do a live dignation there. I mean, I... Why did you pick this as the last story? Well, I didn't know it was going to be the last story.
This was really fun.
This was always fun.
I miss you, brother.
It was fun.
You too.
Okay, but let's get started.
How do we...
Should we start it off?
Kevin, first off, that's not enough wine.
First of all, I've already had a glass and a half.
I've had two glasses of my third glass.
No, it's not.
Fucking hell, dude.
That's a fucking thing. No, it's not. Fucking hell, dude. That's a fucking thing.
No, it's called Uber.
No, no, no.
It's called DD.
You literally hire someone to Uber to your place
and then drive you and your car home
and then Uber to wherever they need to go.
That's a fucking brilliant idea.
They already have it.
They have it.
What is it?
They said Japan.
Sure, so fucking fuck Japan. I love that That's a fucking brilliant idea. They already have it. They have it. What is it? They said Japan, and they said,
fuck Japan, we can start here.
I love that Hayden's their new Prager.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, literally, that's like,
why did Prager show up?
We have one.
I have one.
I have one, except in a scooter.
Yes, see?
You take your car, and you get to hop on a scooter
and look around.
So that's Hayden, everybody.
He's been helping me out with a bunch of video stuff.
He's our new Prager.
Even though we have old Prager here.
Old Prager and young Prager. Actually, they're
very similar. Yes, very similar.
But no, I'm telling you,
I'm going to fucking start this.
Mal's here, by the way, too. We should say hi to Mal.
Flip the camera around. There we go.
We've got the old crew. Glenn, rest in peace.
No, no, he's dead. He's dead.
Why didn't you say rest in peace?
Well, I meant just like we wish you could be here.
And we know you're up in the Bay Area.
You're working on shit.
But we will have Glenn at some point in the future.
Yeah, we will have Mal fly a drone in your honor.
Dude, when you landed that helicopter on my head,
I'll give you $100 if you can land it on my head.
If you can't, you have to chug a beer.
That was one of my favorite Dignation moments of all time.
That was really fun. Does anyone have any glasses? Not part of the bet. Not part of the bet. Dude, come have to chug a beer. That was one of my favorite Dignation moments of all time. That was really fun.
Does anyone have any glasses?
Not part of the bet.
Not part of the bet.
Dude, come on.
All right.
Safety, fucker.
You didn't land it, though.
We had a serious bet on that.
We did.
You tried to land it on my helmet.
You moved!
You moved!
First off, Kevin, we've had,
we should, that's one of the things we should do
is go back through all the bets that we've had.
Yeah, we had a lot of bets.
Oh, the Apple TV bet.
I believe I have won every single one.
Kevin bet me that I would have kids before him.
That's right.
Kevin bet me that Apple was coming out with an Apple TV, like an actual television.
I thought that was going to be true.
Kevin told me that Apple was going to come out with a car, bet me that Apple was going to come out with a car.
They were working on it recently.
Doesn't matter. Have you ever seen one to come out with a car. Bet me that Apple was going to come out with a car. They were working on it recently. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Have you ever seen one?
I've seen a prototype.
Have you seen one on the streets without any backstage pass?
No.
There you go.
And I'm sure there are others.
But I feel like I should be, like the Victor hat should be put on.
I will say I would agree with that had you not switched to.
This is a PC.
Yeah.
This is a PC.
He asked for duct tape to cover that shit up pc he asked for duct tape why did you switch i didn't switch well i got this for free from work okay but the job that i was
working at at the time and i don't say no to a free computer do you like it it's kind of i mean
look well we got to talk about this too too, because I will say. Software updates are nice. No, honestly, iPhone, best phone I've ever owned.
I've tried Android.
I've tried Windows Phone.
Remember that?
Nobody has that anymore.
I know, but I was there for five seconds.
Always went back to iPhone, which I'm interested to talk about because I saw this thing here.
Let's start with the intro, though.
We got to say, welcome to Ignation.
Oh, yeah.
And then they can cut to this.
We just actually, we did a trademark search before the show started. Dignation
is dead and cancelled.
Don't say it like that.
Just say nobody owns the trademark.
Don't say that we died and were
cancelled. It literally says dead. I know,
it says it.
Just don't tell anybody. I don't want to try any
experimental features about AI. Alright, so
the trademark has expired.
Dig.com is down right now.
I tried to buy them.
Don't say it like that.
It's a 503 error.
What's it say in the small print there?
By the way, 503.
I don't even know what a 503 is.
It's 504.
I don't know.
It says Dig still exists?
I don't know.
Why did they?
Anyway, Dig owners, if you want to sell Dig, I will gladly take it back.
I'll restore it back to Dig version 3 before we mess everything up.
And we'll take it on Reddit and we'll take them down.
Just kidding.
Alexis and I are actually good friends now.
Yes.
I talk to him a lot.
He's a good dude.
He's a really good dude.
You still hate him.
No, no, no, no.
I never hated him because I wasn't Digg.
You were Digg.
I know.
But it would be interesting to meet him because I will say-. You were dig. But I was like, it would be interesting
to meet him because I will say... He's huge.
He's a big dude? Yeah.
When you meet him in real life, he's a big dude.
He's like Jake Paul big.
Jake Paul big? Really? That's what you're gonna say?
You were like, of all the big people,
you went to Jake? Jake Paul's pretty big.
Sure, but that's where you're gonna go?
Well, he's big. He's a big dude. I know, but I'm just saying
of all the pop culture references you could pull... Okay, Well, he's big. He's a big dude. I know, but I'm just saying like of all the pop culture references you could pull.
Okay, well, he's bigger than us.
That is true.
A lot of people are bigger than us.
Yeah.
Do you think we could take Jake Paul, the two of us?
Together?
Yeah.
We'd have a shot.
We'd have a shot.
Together.
What would the strategy be though?
I would throw you at him
and then I would hope that you got him
at least on the ground and I'd get a chair.
And then I'd sit and watch him.
It's not WWF.
Did you mean the chair like hit him over the head with a chair?
That's what I was thinking.
No, you were not.
You were thinking he would watch me die.
I was sitting in a recliner.
That was what I was thinking.
I mean, if I could get a recliner, we would have a chair.
All right, let's start the episode.
Hello, friends and family.
No, that's never.
You've never said that.
Well, these are our friends. No, I know, but I'm've never you've never said that well, these aren't their friends
No, I know but I'm just saying we should do the like, how did I remember the proper intro?
Welcome to the episode blah blah blah. I'm Kevin Rose. This is Alex Goldberg. Dignation covers some of the top stories on the social media and the website.
You started it, but you had to do that part.
D-I-G-G dot com.
Okay, I agree with you.
Hello everybody and welcome to Dignation episode X.
No, that's like Elon's thing.
We don't know what number this is.
No, I just saw that.
What number do we want to say?
666?
What was our last episode number?
Let's ask the chat GPT.
Chat GPT is going to go, I don't know what you're talking about.
We're going to edit this out.
What was the last episode number of Dignation?
If this thing fucking knows it.
Okay.
Science is going to be fucked.
Last episode of Dignation was episode 340, which aired on December 30th, 2011.
Part one and part two.
What?
Look at that!
What?
This content may violate our usage policies.
Did we get it wrong?
Why is this?
Why would that violate their usage policy i don't know
something you said in an episode tell us by giving me said so okay episode 341 there we go all right
oh my god that's right after the last one here we go okay let's do it
welcome to dictation also potentially hazardous to your health.
All right, moving on.
Why do you have flies in your freaking house? I noticed this earlier.
It's Southern California and I have fruit.
You put zombie and you put deer in the title and I don't want to do it.
Dignation.com
Hello everybody and welcome to Dignation, episode number 341.
I'm Alex Albrecht.
And I'm Kevin Rose.
Dignation is the show that covers the hottest stories
from the previously owned, now down website for some reason,
dig.com, social news website, dig.com.
Did you say Kevin Rose?
Yeah, I said Kevin Rose.
Dig
is in limbo. It's been a while since we've
done this. Yes, it's been a while.
And by the way, thank you. Yeah, good to see you.
So good to see you. And thank you so much for the
sweet, sweet wine.
Huge thanks to Will Harlan
for making this fantastic wine.
This is Penultimate 2012.
If you're a huge wine aficionado, look it up.
It is a fantastic cabinet.
If you don't like wine, skip to the next segment.
If you don't, well, it's a special wine.
It is.
I broke it out for a special occasion.
Thank you, sir.
It's a little expensive, but I figured you are a good friend.
It has been a long time since we've been sitting in a couch.
We have gray, a lot of gray and shit.
You say we as if I have gray.
You have gray hairs all over your face and shit.
I don't believe that.
It's all over there.
Are we shooting this in 8K?
You actually look like you have a good moisturizer.
Yes, I do.
You know what it is?
What is it?
I'll tell you the secret.
What is it?
It's a fine baby skin of Alex Albrecht.
You look young. It's at CVS fine baby skin of Alex Albrecht.
You look young. It's at CVS.
It's called CeraVe.
CeraVe?
Yeah, CeraVe, it's super cheap.
You can get it in bulk.
Pretty looks good too.
And by the way, I've started getting the one that has SPF.
Oh yeah, you gotta use the SPF.
That is the number one thing.
I had the One Skin Founders on,
and then you got SPF, so huge.
So here's the funny thing about SPF and me.
I have blue eyes.
Yes.
So one of the things that is attributed to macular degeneration is non-UV protection in your eyes, on your eyes.
Oh, interesting.
I cannot be in the sun without sunglasses.
I physically can't.
My eyes like squint, I'll sneeze because I have blue eyes.
So a lot of people that don't have blue eyes have brown eyes or darker
I mean they'll get macular degeneration because they don't wear sunglasses as often as they need to outside
And I'm the same way with the Sun I burn like a fucking bacon in a pan
Like the moment I step outside in the Sun the Sun's like fuck you dude, and I'm like bro. We just talked about yeah
Red yes, I don't tan unless I really have to like work at tan you look tan though
I mean I can tan your tanner than I am but you were on vacation recently so yeah
I was I was in I saw toaster toaster still alive. I know it was just 13 pass
Yeah, Monty passed which is like it's a huge bummer Monty was a fantastic dog cheers to Monty. Thank you
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no Monty was a fantastic dog. Cheers to Monty, seriously. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. Monty was a fantastic dog.
17 years.
That was a dog that you found on the street.
On Montana Avenue.
Yeah, right down the street from my apartment.
Yeah, Toaster is having a hard time.
He's fallen a lot, you know?
His legs are slipping out and he's slipping on stairs
and he hits his belly and stuff.
It's so tough.
I know.
Because you freaking love those things just like.
I know.
They're your own.
It was really hard.
Well, not to get too down.
Let's talk about my dead dog on this episode of Dignation.
Because, I mean, we're older.
Yeah.
What is there to talk about?
Health issues and death.
And taxes.
That's right.
Although I feel like at the beginning we talked about death enough.
Yeah.
Prager looks good, though.
Prager looks good.
Hey, Prager's here.
Prager's here.
Prager's here.
So I surprised Alex.
By the way, huge surprise.
I walked in and I was like, what the hell is Prager doing here?
So this is a funny thing.
Prager is so cool because I hit him up, what, two days ago?
Yeah.
Randomly.
And he's like, I'm hosting a dinner party.
What's up?
And I'm like, dude, can you fly out?
Can you just make it out?
And Prager's like, let me get back to you tomorrow.
And then he gets back
because he has,
Prager has a little one now.
I know.
How old is?
She'll be two in September.
Oh, wow.
Two in September.
Congrats, dude.
How's it being dad?
Fantastic.
I brought a,
I got a gift for Father's Day
even though it hasn't started yet.
Father's Day.
Oh, right.
It's Sunday.
For girl dads.
Girl dads.
It's like,
it was written by advice
from fathers of girls. But you bought yourself a gift. No, my mom for girl dads. Girl dads. It's like, it was written by advice from fathers of girls.
But you bought yourself a gift.
My mom sent it to me.
Yeah, I was out in the, I was in the airport and I was like, I should buy this for myself
as a father.
Well, I mean, what's been your favorite thing about being a dad so far?
Um.
Oh, he doesn't like it.
No.
Does anybody like it?
I don't know.
She just, she started to walk really late and she'll run up
and just hug your leg oh my god that's the best yeah so that's pretty cool that's awesome the
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We've found some great ones.
WWDC was today.
So if people can kind of know when this was, a lot of new things were introduced.
iOS 18 finally supports RCS.
things were introduced iOS 18 finally supports RCS so this is crazy to me because how are you gonna know who your shitty friends are if everybody has blue
bubble I don't think it's gonna be blue bubbles I think I keep them green that's
nice they will of course they will sweet well I'm actually sending you a text
message I mean they're doing this to like they want you to know that you're
not an iPhone I told as they should it's their
it's their service yeah but i just like i i feel like apple was lying to us for so long because
remember wait what about what so you know those ads that came out they were like we're the safest
phone like a little like lock and all that stuff yeah yeah yeah and like but but all like half of
your friends not half maybe like 10 of your friends yeah i was, maybe like 10% of your friends that you text with. Come on, let's be clear.
That are on Android.
Yeah, the one friend.
It was all unencrypted.
Yeah, but it was to that one friend that.
Because they were doing that on purpose.
They didn't implement RCS because they just wanted to be assholes.
They're dicks like that.
But also, like, most people's drug dealers were on Android.
So it's like, of all of this, those should have been encrypted.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that's a good point. By the way crazy is it how crazy is it that it's basically i mean i know federally
i think it just became just happened weed that like weed is legal do you might do you like think
about that we couldn't even talk about it in the early dignations i mean not at all yeah i never
really was a weed
guy you never even i don't think you've ever even did you ever had to ever get you to do an edible
i think i typed yes in vegas you gave me a lollipop and it was we watched uh uh cirque de
soleil yeah yeah did you like that oh and then remember we were at my house and i had an edible
and then do you remember we went we like walked to the liquor store because we needed snacks?
Yeah.
And I kept talking about how I had snack pockets or something.
Yeah.
I put candy in both of my pockets.
I do remember that.
And I was like, it's like snack pockets.
It was hard to talk you into doing that shit.
I still have my cup of tea even now.
Even now.
I don't like it now.
Oh, really?
Dude, I'm dead serious.
I do not like weed. What? They would have tried to sponsor the show now. No, I don't like it now. Oh, really? Dude, I'm dead serious. Like, I do not like weed.
What?
They would have tried to sponsor the show now.
I was not that hardcore of a weed user.
No.
No.
No.
Because I'm a big weed user.
Thank you.
I was not.
Maybe it was just always special occasions, like when Alex was.
I just wanted to go have fun with you.
I wanted you to try the good pizza.
Pizza tastes better when you have a little bit of, like, stuff.
It's funny. I never got that.
I mean, look, I'm an alcoholic, let's be fair.
We did talk about, I took some time off.
So I'm not knocking anybody's, you know,
anything that anybody wants to do.
But I just never got into the weed thing.
It just wasn't my thing.
I know it wasn't, and that's fair.
And I even smoked up a couple times with you guys.
Did you?
Yeah, it was like once.
With Glenn's shit?
Fuck, I don't know what it was.
Glenn had some weird shit.
I mean, that's,
that's, yeah,
it was the case.
But I will say that
weed for me,
I just don't like it, man.
It just,
it kind of like,
I can't sleep well.
I just like,
I just,
Which is weird
because most people
will take an edible
to sleep better. I know, I know. And it. I know. As I've gotten older, it's just
not my thing. Although, I will say, there's that
twice a year moment when you're going to go see an epic movie where I'm like
fucking let's go. Because the movie sometimes
can be really intense if you get on that ship.
Anyway, back to the WWDC. It can be really intense if you get on that ship. Anyway.
Anyway, back to the WWDC.
It's legal now.
Yeah, so RCS.
So Android is finally secure.
What was crazy about watching this, I watched the keynote, is they've copied every Android feature.
You can now put icons wherever you want it.
But isn't that what Apple always does?
Yeah. Isn't that what Apple always does?
That they like wait
until somebody's like iterated it enough
that they're like, I'll do that. But I might
switch to Android now.
If I could eye roll
more. Toaster. Oh, look at Toaster.
Come here, bud. Come on, Toasties.
So Toaster, this is Toaster at 13.
Everyone remembers good old Toast.
Come here, bud. Aw, thank you, buddy. Oh, Toast,
you were my favorite Instagram filter.
Yeah, he was actually named as our Instagram filter.
He can't hear anymore.
So if you call his name, you can't actually...
So the whole thing where you were like, Toast, come here.
He's just like, whatever.
How was the accidents in the house?
Because that was a thing when Monty was...
He hasn't had any accidents.
He barks still at the door, which is great.
That's great.
Yeah, he's really good.
Oh, watch, he'll try and jump. Can he make it? Come on, bud. Yes! That's a the door, which is great. That's great. Yeah, he's really good. Oh, watch. He'll try and jump.
Can he make it?
Come on, bud.
Yes!
That's a tough one for him, actually.
Hi, buddy.
He's such a good dude.
Dude, remember when he was eating our wires when we first started recording podcasts?
He's about to do that right now.
Yeah, he used to eat our podcast wires, our mic wires.
He's still doing pretty good for 13.
He's doing great, dude.
So I put him on a longevity compound.
Now? No, no, like a few years ago, a couple years ago. Oh, good.. He's doing great, dude. So I put him on a longevity compound. Now?
No, no, like a few years ago, a couple years ago.
Oh, good.
Okay, good.
Rapamycin, which I actually funded a dog study in the University of Washington for longevity in dogs.
We donated a bunch of money to help figure it out.
But it can expand dogs' lives by about 15%, 15%, 20%.
What do we think that is? 15 to 17? figure it out but it can expand dogs lives by about 15 15 20 percent so what is that what do
we think that is in terms of 15 to 17 yeah buddy see look at that 13 that's amazing that's what
i'm talking here though which is what look at he's having a good old time dude still acts like a pop
don't eat those fucking don't eat that's such a good dude. Thank you. Here, you can have this. Gorilla Toast. I love toast.
Anyway.
So I might move to Android. Bro, how many times have you fucking switched to Android?
Switch back.
Switch to fucking things.
At least 10.
At least 10.
Well, you're on Apple now, so it's like.
I've always had an iPhone ever since it came out.
No, I meant your laptop.
But this is a PC.
Yeah.
It's a PC.
It's a personal computer. It's a personal computer.
It is a personal computer.
So, I mean, it's true.
You were always on an iPhone.
I just feel...
I mean, I flip-flopped periodically.
Like, at one point, I had, like, a Samsung thing.
It just doesn't feel right.
You can change the color of the icons now on iOS.
Who gives a shit?
Yeah.
Who gives a shit?
You can change the colors of the icon?
So they added a couple new features.
React to these.
Better than this.
Did you watch the WWDC?
No, I was at a lunch.
Okay, I'm gonna ask you.
How does that work?
You react and you tell me.
Real time.
They now have hidden apps so you can hide apps from people.
I have nothing on my phone in the app form that I would want to hide.
So porn?
I think they're thinking like it's porn.
What else would there be?
But there's not porn apps.
Steve Jobs hated porn.
He made sure there was no porn apps.
Although he's been gone, so.
Yeah, I just don't know what would people hide. What would you hide?
I mean, maybe for like an office?
Tinder?
Oh, interesting.
The new Prager is fucking on it so wait a minute
so I under but that cuz if you were in the grinder here's the thing nothing
good can come of this right if you're in the well I mean some good get some good
sex yeah happen yeah are you but also that that's going to happen. First off,
yeah,
I just don't know what app you would have that you were like, oh, I can hide this on my phone.
It's probably Grindr. Yeah, but also
from who? From your wife? It just feels like
was there a big
outcry for this? The Grindr
community was like, can I just not have this next to
my Wells Fargo app?
Because I just feel like I just see it.
I hear you, buddy. He has some lung problems.
He's coughing. We all do. We all do.
So, yeah, I mean, I
listen. I have nothing to hide.
My reaction? That's interesting.
Hold on. What would I hide?
Next feature. Okay.
I just thought of something.
Fucking hide your bank shit from
if you ever get your phone stolen
How are they gonna know your password bro? There's so many steps, but I'm just saying if somebody cracked my phone my password
It's like fucking
That's what I'm saying you put in your face cuz now they can just do that
Yeah, but what are they gonna sit? What are you gonna wire someone money?
But if they get in your Bitcoin, Coinbase,
fucking Coinbase,
Coinbase,
my fucking MetaMask.
This is what I'm saying.
Okay.
I have an Exodus wallet.
Okay.
Hide that shit.
I love that you just admitted all the wallets that you own now.
All right.
My,
my security passwords are King,
Kong,
balls.
I mean,
that's,
there's always been your secret face.
The next one is like,
okay,
imagine you don't have any self-service. You're off on a hike. You're in the, you're in the, you're always been your secret face. The next one is like, okay, imagine you don't have any cell service.
You're off on a hike.
You're in the woods.
Okay.
I try to avoid that.
And you have no cell service.
Okay.
Now it can connect to satellite.
That was last year.
No, no, no.
Last year you could connect to satellite if you wanted SOS.
Yes, yes.
Now you can text people.
Not over SOS, but it'll just let you text people over satellite
How much is it going to cost me?
Free
I mean that's actually nice
Think about all the international flights
Where they're like nah we can't do anything
And now all of a sudden you're like I can
Well I don't know if satellite can go through the actual plane
It's a fucking satellite
It goes like XM radio is in my fucking car
I guess there's an antenna
You need a line of sight but line of sight or
Yeah
Yeah, I guess yeah, I'm fine. So link doesn't work, but then you just goes to show well who the fuck
No, but I was out today hiking were you I was I actually went on to my okay
And I was in the middle of a dead zone
and had I been bitten by a rattlesnake
and I shit you not, I saw a rattlesnake today.
Dude, my mom called me
and said, watch out for rattlesnakes.
They're like crazy big because of the rains.
Big and they're out. Because of the rains. Yes.
They'll fuck you up. Dude, we saw one today.
I was out with my sister going for a hike and we saw
a rattlesnake and had
I been bitten
i could i could now use the grinder but technically isn't that but kevin isn't that what the sos was
for you could have just done the sos no i've got a grinder i need someone to come and suck my snake
poison is there anybody locally that is willing to come and suck out poison from my leg?
I mean, I would have had somebody there in 10 minutes.
I mean, if anybody knows why Grindr exists, it's because of poisonous snakes.
Okay.
Moving on to the features.
Okay.
Apple Watch now has vitals.
So it gives you health metrics, like how well your HRV is doing or your resting heart rate when you slept last night.
You have to wear your watch overnight.
I don't wear my watch.
I can't wear my watch overnight.
Do you not have any watch or anything yet?
I do.
It's my Apple Watch.
Why do you put on that wrist?
Because I'm left-handed, bro.
Yeah, but you're doing it wrong, man.
Yeah.
I don't know if you know.
Didn't you get the book, the handbook for left-handed?
It's put it on the other wrist.
I know.
I know.
And then you make it upside down and none of the shit works.
None of the shit works. It's easy. I mean, that's kind of cool. They're adding some more kind of biometrics
Oh
She said vitals globally what vitals can get like they get any blood stuff. No, no, it's more like
It's basically the right now. It does heart rate. So the oral oxygenation. Yeah, so the oxygen but it did that before no
No, but what it's
doing is like overnight it's saying, um, so when you have an aura ring and you wake up and like,
we've noticed this a couple of times when we've had COVID and shit, where you'll see the spike
in your body temperature before you actually feel the symptoms, which is actually kind of awesome
because then you can start like loading yourself with zinc and shit like that. And so it's, it's
looking at all your vitals,
and it will tell you,
like it'll give you the same dashboard.
Got it.
So it's like,
and they created a strain dashboard,
which is kind of like what Whoop does.
So look at how much strain you've had.
This is Whoop.
You've never seen Whoop before?
Bro.
This is why I'm sad that we don't do Dignation more often,
because you would say these things
that I'd be like,
what the fuck is that?
And then I'd be like,
oh yeah, I got one.
It's actually really good.
If you try a whoop?
No, of course not.
I've never heard of it.
You've never seen one of these in your life?
No, that looks like a belt that you put on your wrist.
That looks like a military belt that you bought on Amazon
and put on your wrist. Have you never seen a whoop?
How have I not seen a whoop?
That sentence sounds like gibberish to me.
Okay, hold on. How many people in this room know what a whoop are? Raise your hand. What a whoop, that sentence sounds like gibberish to me. Okay, hold on.
How many people in this room know what a whoop are?
Raise your hand.
What a whoop is. Everybody but you.
What a whoop is.
Okay, what a whoop is.
Toaster even fucking knows what a whoop is.
Well, Toaster's got a whoop.
He was like a beta tester for whoop.
Exactly.
Okay, well, what's a whoop for all the people that are normal?
It's like a headless, there's no screen.
It's a headless?
Like, activity monitor.
So it's a Fitbit.
Yeah, but it gives you, like, more data.
Like a Fitbit.
But it's, like, more hardcore actionable data.
Like an Oura Ring.
Yes.
But on your wrist.
Yes.
So a Fitbit.
But it doesn't have a screen.
Fitbit's dead.
I mean, it sounds like it's just whoop.
It's pretty awesome, actually.
So what does it give you?
It gives you, like, age. Like, what are the things that you wake up and you're like, I'm so glad I had this built in my wrist. Okay, pretty awesome, actually. So what does it give you? It gives you...
Like, what are the things that you wake up and you're like,
I'm so glad I had this built in my room.
Okay, let me show you.
You need fucking time to see it.
Let me see here.
Whoop.
I haven't launched it in a couple days.
It asks you questions like...
Oh, I get you.
Also update the firmware.
Oh, yeah.
So it's like you're not really using it.
I get you.
I'm using it, but if you have a drink,
so I don't like to look at it because it's like...
It's like you're drunk.
It shames you.
Why are you stumbling?
Okay, so check it out.
So it shows my activity there, my rucking activity from today.
Rucking activity?
I did some rucking.
And it shows my heart rate throughout the entire time that I was rucking.
Okay.
It shows me what zone of cardio I was in.
Cool.
And then there's my sleep, 7 hours and 41 minutes.
That's nice.
You can see how much deep sleep I didn't get enough, how much REM, waking events per hour, efficiency.
Wait, let me see waking events per hour.
1.6.
How's your prostate?
My prostate's fine.
You have prostate problems?
No, I was just wondering.
1.6 events per hour.
I'm not getting up to go to the bathroom.
Oh, it doesn't track that?
No, that just means I kind of woke up a little bit.
Did you have prostate problems yet?
No, but I always peed.
You always peed a lot.
I always peed a lot.
I loved it.
I was actually thinking about this.
I loved it because the feeling of peeing when you have to pee is very fucking satisfying.
Hand me your glass, by the way.
Oh, yeah.
So here, I'm going to say, yes, I was going to say, so this is the thing I was going to say,
because I was like, oh, we'll talk about like stories, divination stories.
And I remember, I can't remember what my joke was.
You would see a smudge on the mirror.
And where the hell did that come from?
The smudge on the mirror.
There'd be a smudge on the mirror above the toilet,
and you'd realize that you'd get up in the middle of the night,
and you'd put your arm on the freaking mirror and pee.
Oh, Bonnie.
And you'd wake up the next morning, why is that big smudge there?
Are you talking about yourself?
No, Alex was talking about himself.
Oh no,
it was my handprints.
Okay, your handprints.
You put your hands up
in the mirror?
How do you direct the stream?
Skill.
Ooh.
Yeah.
You can like
hip motion.
I do Zumba.
That's amazing.
No, it's funny.
Heather
Heather put up with me
the other day.
She's like, yeah,
and then fucking I come in
and it's like watching a prisoner trying to fucking pee.
But I also sleep nude.
Long story.
You sleep nude?
Oh, I love it.
It's the best.
Dude, I've known you for like a fucking 20 years
and you sleep nude?
Why would you know that about me?
It's not like I'm going to be like,
hey, I'm Alex, I sleep nude.
It's nice to meet you.
Well, I think I would have known that by now.
Yeah, oh yeah, fuck yeah.
Every single time since I've known you, you seem nude.
Every single time, yes.
Unless there's like moments where I'm like on a couch, somebody's house, like I'm sleeping in my dundies.
No, I get that, I get that.
But this is not as good as sleep.
But fully nude?
Yeah, that's nude.
Wait, you do that too, Mal?
Fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah, thank you, sir.
Thank you.
Look at this.
Look, I see some fucking stuff. Me too? By the way, Mal? Fuck yeah. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Look at this. Look, I see some fucking stuff.
By the way, so does Toast.
You're the fucking weirdo, Kevin.
Wait, hold on a second.
I'm being dead serious.
So here's the thing.
I will tell you.
All you guys sleep nude.
Yeah.
Okay, let me ask you a question.
You get up, you go take a piss.
Why would you put pants on?
No, hold on, hold on, hold on.
You're just going to put your junk.
Hold on.
Go ahead.
Everybody knows you got a little bit of dribble.
You got to like get, you don't have any couple little drip drops after you piss.
No, because what's, there's nothing, there's no blockage.
You're just kind of chilling.
You can also use toilet paper.
So what do you use toilet paper for?
What do you mean, what do you use toilet paper for?
I'm just saying like, do you piss in your bed at all?
No.
What?
No, like. First off, Kevin! There's a little drip.
Kevin, Kevin. Everybody knows that. No, but you pee.
There's a little... Is you wearing...
Anti-drip technique?
What? What's the drip technique?
Oh, yeah, the taint stroke. Yeah, I know that.
But by the way, it's not like
we're naked, so we must just
urinate in our beds. I don't mean that.
Just because you have pajamas doesn't mean that's why your brain is like,
well, I shouldn't be.
I'm wearing pants.
If you don't shake enough and you go back to bed,
you're going to get a little dribble in the bed.
I think over the years that I've been sleeping naked,
it's instinctual.
I don't even think about it.
I just go in.
I just go in, just pee, I get back.
Can I ask if Heather sleeps naked?
She doesn't.
But she doesn't sleep naked,
I don't think it's a comfort thing for her.
It's like she wants to be fucking ready.
Like she- Combat.
Something happens, she's like,
I want to fucking be ready.
And for me, I was like-
You just want to be naked ready.
If I gotta be, if something's going down,
I don't give a shit that I'm naked.
Yeah.
I'm gonna wrestle that person to the ground.
And by the way, it'll be better
because they'll be uncomfortable.
Right. Totally.
Think about you break into a house and some naked guy
jumps out of bed and grabs you.
You're not going to act the way that you were
going to act. That's right. You're going to stop.
You'll probably leave. You'll probably leave.
I jump out of bed full naked. That guy's like,
I'm sorry. My bad.
Wrong house. I thought you'd
be clothed. Well, listen. This is advantages, Kevin. I'm going. My bad. Wrong house. I thought you'd be clothed. Well, listen.
This is advantages, Kevin.
I'm going to try this.
I've never tried the fully naked.
I always used to sleep for many years in boxers.
Yeah.
Many years.
Yeah.
And then I started dating this chick.
Oh, shit.
This is pre-Heather.
In LA.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is early.
What does she look like?
What does she look like? What does she look like?
I mean, just give me a little background here.
Like, we're married now.
Like, what does she look like?
I'm gonna say this,
and it's gonna seem like I'm being an asshole or weird.
She's Asian.
What's wrong?
Only Asian.
Because I was like, you're like,
what does she look like?
She's Asian.
That feels weird.
Like, there's lots of things I could say.
Dark hair, petite, whatever.
But she's the only Asian I've ever dated.
Not that that's a problem.
I feel uncomfortable.
This is why we're not doing the show right now.
We could never get away with doing the show because I just, I'm being honest and I feel like it's bad.
No, nothing is, everything's fine.
Okay, okay.
Because she's Asian.
Anyways, she's Asian. But that has nothing to do with the No, nothing is, everything's fine. Okay, okay. Because she was Asian. Anyway, she was Asian.
But that has nothing to do with the story.
I mean, it's literally what she was.
She slept naked and was always like,
why aren't you sleeping naked?
And I was like, I just like the underwear.
And then I was like, well, I'll try it.
And then I tried it and it was weird for a couple nights.
And then I was like, this is fucking great.
Now I can't, I can't.
But I get claustrophobic.
And so being in pants, I feel like,
it's like I gotta fucking move my shit.
There's been a couple times where, this is a true story, we've been in elevators together.
Oh, yeah.
And I've kind of like fucked with you a little bit.
I feel bad.
I'm sorry.
Oh, dude.
That was all very mild.
But like, I also get a little claustrophobic in elevators.
I'm like, who's going to stop?
Dude, Japan.
Remember the parking garage in Japan?
Yeah.
That fucked me up because it was so slow.
And Kevin was like, oh, maybe it'll stop.
And I was like, I can't.
That's not a thing.
I can't fucking.
Also, the tube in Japan, like the subway.
I can't do this shit.
It was tough.
All right.
Anyway, I don't know why we were talking about that.
Edit that out.
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billion dollar market cap trillion uh three trillion good point fucking prager it's not
to be there's a reason why we need prager these episodes oh my god trillion market cap dude
fucking nvidia we haven't talked about ai because we haven't done podcasts yes uh this is true uh these episodes. Oh my god. Three trillion market cap. Dude. Fucking NVIDIA.
We haven't talked about AI because we haven't done a podcast.
Yes, this is true.
What's your thoughts? By the way, we haven't done a podcast
since AI wasn't
even a fucking thing.
And by the way, we probably did a podcast way
earlier than AI now is a fucking
thing. It's crazy.
That's correct. Why is that weird?
Because it just came out of fucking nowhere it was
like all of a sudden yeah like we were like ai was like out i think siri's not ai by the way this is
this is one of the things i was going to go back to the wwdc
siri sucks sucks but siri sucks because it's not ai right right siri sucks because you're like
hey siri do the thing here's blow jambo from thank there's a wood that's not AI. Right. Right? Siri sucks because you're like, hey Siri, do the thing. Here's blow jambo from think.
There's a wood,
that's not even anything I said.
The worst is when it's like,
I've searched the web for you
and here are some results.
Like, I could have
fucking done that myself.
Yeah.
And then it doesn't say the results.
Right.
Just goes, check it on the web.
Check it on your phone.
Yeah, long safari.
I could have fucking Googled it.
At WWDC,
they said the word AI once.
According to MGC's article.
And they said,
Apple intelligence is our AI.
Which I thought was clever.
They did that with VR, right? Or AR.
They also partnered with ChatGPT, so it's like
they fucked up.
They fucked up. Or
their geniuses that went,
we are not going to be a fucking AI company.
No, they are going to be. Let's partner with
an AI company and basically put
AI, because here's the thing. This is what I was thinking when i was like oh my god chat gbt plus siri is actually a genius
move yeah in the short term or long term right because they don't have to deal with the fucking
they don't have to make do the stuff let's they're gonna do this stuff they might they've got the
money of course but that's not the point what I'm saying is they had an already installed base of people that are talking to their phones. They figured that out. They got people to talk to their phones. And people had to do work to be able to have their phone do something that was beneficial.
voice came out and they were like the google assistant you tell it i would like a restaurant reservation and that yeah google voice would call the restaurant yeah that never fucking came to be
well or it did but it didn't really work yeah but now think about it now powered by chat gbt yeah
right it's some of the shit that they showed like literally a month ago with the new chat gbt
4-0 where it was like that's just having a casual conversation yeah all of a sudden
it's about are you going to get people to install chat gbt the app the open ai app yeah
but are you going to get people to say hey siri blah blah blah and then siri goes
yeah so do you want me to check i could get you a reservation at that restaurant. And they go, fucking Siri, Siri, you're actually doing some shit. Sure, Siri, go ahead and get me that reservation.
So what I'm saying is most people will be using chat GBT now without fucking realizing they're
using chat GBT. And those people would probably be fucking vehemently against AI. Right. And that's because Apple waited, and they went, now Siri is going to use Apple Intelligence,
aka ChatGPT.
But Apple Intelligence is more than that.
No, I know, but it's stuff.
Yeah, there's other things.
But I will say, because I have all my Siri shit turned off.
Here's the thing, though.
Siri, fuck off, Siri.
Here's what's interesting about this.
It's a playbook they've already done
where do you remember when they moved to intel yes remember they were on motorola
yeah yeah and we were like oh yeah intel finally blah blah secretly they're developing their own
chips apple and then now apple silicon crushes intel chips bro this isn't this is old but it's
still arm based no no i know but no but i mean this i don't think isn't this is old, but it's still arm based. No, no, I know but no
But I mean this I don't think this is the m1 even yeah, like old old no no no no
It's old thing Apple period now. It's old old. It's all about this Mac
Okay, yeah, that's Intel. I said Intel dual-core Intel i5. Oh, yeah, it's horrible
It's old cuz I don't really have a laptop. That's why this is... Oh, you're kind of on a PC still.
You know what?
Thank you, Kevin.
You're fucking kind of on a PC still.
This is an Intel i5 core processor.
Fucking PC.
You know what?
You're on a PC.
Thank you.
I feel good about that.
All right.
But anyway, my point is that they're going to do the switcheroo here, where they're going
to invest a shit ton of AI.
I get you.
And you're right.
You're right. They're going to do that. All right. Because all they have to do is shit ton of AI. I get you. And you're right. They're going to do that.
Because all they have to do is...
Because they don't have a label that says ChatGPT, right?
So that's genius.
Because again, it's the same thing with the Intel.
Well, they're paying ChatGPT a shit ton of money.
Of course.
It's not an Apple.
They have more cash on hand than fucking Dubai.
They pay them billions.
It doesn't matter.
Let me ask you a question.
That might not be true, but...
What are the odds that you think that AI is going to become sentient and take over?
Give me a percentage. I mean... Two. Two? One and a true. What are the odds that you think that AI is going to become sentient and take over? Give me a percentage.
I mean, two.
Two?
One and a half.
What?
Yeah, I don't really think that's going to be a thing.
Okay.
Roll the die.
You like D&D.
There's a hundred side die.
Okay.
A hundred side die.
That's the big one.
I mean, that's a very big one, but yes.
You roll it.
I've had one of those.
Those are kind of cool.
They're big. Yeah, it's great. You roll it. I've had one of those. They're kind of cool. Yeah, it's great.
You roll it.
It hits the 1%.
Mm-hmm.
Chachi becomes sentient.
Mm-hmm.
What do you do?
I'm going to have a glorious life.
Wait, hold on.
Okay.
There are people that flee to the woods.
I mean, weirdos, but yes.
No, because they don't want AI to rule them.
Okay, so they make stick technology,
like stick toasters and stick microwaves.
I get you.
No, I know how it works.
They have some anchor batteries and stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or whatever.
Solar panels.
Yeah, let's go solar panels.
I'm in the hack tech.
And then you've got,
but you have to serve the AI.
Do you serve the AI,
or do you go to the woods?
Well, that all depends upon what they mean by serve the AI.
Because, like, I need a gig.
You probably have to rack GPUs or something for them.
I mean, I was doing that by myself and not making any fucking money.
You were doing that with your Bitcoin mining.
Yeah, my Bitcoin mining was just me racking GPUs for no fucking reason.
You've already been serving AI.
Dude, I've been serving AI since the beginning. Since the dawn of time. So you'd be racking GPUs for no fucking reason. You've already been serving AI. Dude, I've been serving AI since the beginning. Since the
dawn of time. So you'd be wrapped
in GPUs. Fuck yeah, dude. I'd be like, great.
As long as they give me my fucking food, shit.
Because they can cure cancer. They can do all that
shit because they're going to have all the knowledge. Bro, so that's
the thing. I think I would serve AI.
What's the downside? The downside
would be, what if they want you to pray to
it and shit? Why would they want that?
What if they do? Then you pray to it. You probably would they want that what if they do then you pray to it you probably do because by the way all religion is that right
praying to something that they just said please pray to us what would prayer do oh i don't think
it would be if it becomes sentient i've always been the believer in the whole paperclip thing
where you just program it wrong and it's like we're making paperclips you get in my way i was
told to make paperclips so the only thing in my way is human beings trying to get me to stop making paperclips.
So might as well eliminate the human beings.
You've heard that.
I don't know what that means.
Is that a Clippy reference?
No, it's a Clippy.
I was like, AI and paperclips?
We were asking, would you pray to AI?
I don't think AI cares.
What if it wanted you to pray to it?
AI's too smart.
What if it fake cares?
I think we would be ants.
I agree with that.
We would kind of be ants.
But also, like, we're not fucking with it.
And it wants GPUs.
By the way, and it doesn't have arms.
So it'll be like, I want power.
No, but here's the crazy shit.
Take the Boston Dynamics robot and give it the AI brain.
No, but here's what I heard, so this is crazy.
If it becomes sentient, how does it control humans?
It can't, right?
It doesn't have arms.
Yeah.
But what if it goes into our secret accounts and shit, like the Apple, and it breaks into
our secret accounts because it can, and it finds out our Grindr shit, and it's like,
hold on.
I mean, this is just another reason not to have a Grindr account.
Hold on.
But it's like, Grindr is just an example.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's like, I know your secrets.
Go do this task for me, human. Otherwise, I expose your secrets. Oh, so it's like it's like brenner's is an example, but I know your secrets go do this task for me human
Otherwise they expose your secrets. Oh, so it's like Ashley Madison hacker. Yeah, so it hacks your shit
Interesting in that case I go. I don't really have any secrets
You probably have some I mean I
Mean honestly, I don't know. I mean porn would be the worst thing that it would find. Right.
And porn is, everybody has porn.
Like, porn is Instagram.
Seriously, my Instagram feed, my search thing, I don't know what the fuck happened.
It just knows I'm a guy of a certain age because every time I go to search something on Instagram, I've never, and to God, this is not my porn.
This is not my porn.
So I don't, why would I go to instagram for porn that makes no sense right when i open the search thing on on instagram it
is fucking boobs it is all boobs dude then you've trained it my friend there's no way because why
would i go to instagram i'm going to all sorts of other places for porn. Why would I go to Instagram? Listen, I get Zen quotes.
I get dancing poodles.
I get woodworking tips.
Like, the shit knows me really well.
I only follow friends on Instagram.
That's it.
Big-titted friends.
Literally, I don't think that's true.
You must follow someone with large breasts.
You've always been a breast guy.
I have.
So he knows that about you.
But I don't follow friends that have big boobs because they have big boobs.
I have a list of, and I don't think I have a single follower that I can think of.
But once you've clicked on three, then it gives you more and you open it.
You're like, well, look at that one.
You can't tell me you're a boyfriend.
And then he's like, oh, okay, he clicks on it sometimes.
Prayer's got a point.
You can't tell me there wasn't a time where it showed you some breasts.
Because why Instagram?
No, but it showed you breasts.
You spent a little bit of time on there. probably swiped a couple of the others a couple of little photos i mean you
were like i don't think so i honestly don't think so because i remember i didn't know that that was
a an explore tab because weirdly back in the day my explore tab had animal cruelty jesus oh i know
i was like fuck instagram i was like i was for a while i was like fuck
instagram by the way i'm not like lingering on animal cruelty what are you doing it was dude
this is why i was like instagram sucks and it was ben i was like he was like well if you go to the
instagram explorer and i was like fuck that shit i'm not going into that place and he was like
wait what and i go it's a bunch of fucking like animal cruelty shit and he was like what and i
was like i literally
never click the search button on instagram because when i click it i see like a dog that's been
malnourished and they're gonna see yes and i was like what the fuck and he goes you can say like
i don't want to see any more of this yeah and so i was like oh okay so i started doing that
but then i was like i don't want i don't want any of this like i don't go to instagram to
discover things i go to fucking all the other places to discover things.
I love Instagram.
Instagram's great.
What's your favorite social media now?
I mean, no offense.
Don't say Twitter.
No, Reddit.
Oh, fuck.
That's where I spend most of my time.
You know what?
Honestly, I don't like the homepage, but I like the subreddits.
There's a lot of good content in the subreddits.
Oh, yeah.
You learn a lot.
Dude, WallStreetBets. I've got to tell you wall street bets i gotta tell you my wall let's talk about that yeah because i see that on
our list of topics to chat about gamestop and our wall street bets tell me so i don't have tons of
money i have enough but i don't not like a super crazy, like, oh, fuck it, I'll just spend it. But I got down the rabbit hole early because of Reddit
on the Wall Street Bets GameStop thing.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, this is crazy.
I see how this all works.
And I had had a Robinhood account.
And so I was like, oh, this is interesting.
And so I decided, I was like, you know what?
I got like a thousand bucks
just sitting in my Robin Hood doing nothing
just for like fun fuck around stuff.
And I was like,
I'm going to buy some GameStop options.
This is like a thing.
They've been talking about it,
but it's like not,
it hadn't blown up.
It was like a thing.
It's like, I'm going to fucking buy some,
you know, some GameStop options.
So it was like a Saturday
and I tried to buy some options.
GameStop was at $45 a share, and I could buy options at like $55 or $65 a share.
By the way, do you know what you're doing when you're in there?
No.
I don't either.
I'm just tapping shit.
Yeah, 100%.
So I tap shit, and it doesn't work.
So I go, oh, I get it.
The market's not open.
I can't buy options because the market's not open. I can't buy share. I can't buy options
because the market's not open.
This makes sense.
So I was like,
I'm going to set an alarm
because I knew something was bubbling.
I was like, I'm going to set an alarm.
Because you see enough signal.
Yeah.
On Monday,
wake up when the, you know,
like 5.55,
so the market's going to open.
Oh, shit.
Okay, you got up early, naked.
Well, no, I went to bed.
I mean, yes.
I do a lot of my early morning things naked.
You're training naked.
I know now everything is different so i roll
everything where i was like so i was in bed and you're like naked i was like just stop
just stop every time you say you do anything in bed i'm just gonna picture you fucking sitting
there naked yeah it's sleeping look toaster nose anyway toaster nose so i roll over and i open my
thing and that you know it hasn't really opened.
So I was like, I'm going to buy some options.
Try to buy some options.
I was going to get some options at 55.
Nothing.
I was like, oh, shit.
I can't get it.
Tap more buttons.
Yeah, tap more buttons.
Robin Hood account, tap buttons.
Then this is how I invest.
This is how everybody invests.
Everybody invests.
They're like, options.
I know, but if enough people do this, then everybody wins.
Yeah, exactly.
So it doesn't work.
So the market opens.
And of course, I'm like fucking tired as shit.
I'm like tap, tap, tap.
It doesn't work.
So I'm like, ah, whatever.
I'll figure it out later.
Close it.
Go to bed.
Wake up.
GameStop is at $245 a share.
Oh, my god.
And I was going to buy a thousand like options.
I was going to buy basically 10,000 shares at $55.
Holy shit.
But I couldn't because I was like, tap, tap, tap.
I come to find out.
You actually did it.
No, the opposite of excitement.
You have to go into settings and then like double confirm that you can buy options because it's it's dangerous
like an advanced feature and i didn't know that you had to like go in and double the how much you
lose i mean hundreds of thousands oh jesus that i would have made in the time that i bought them
and went to bed and woke up and ate yeah it was like hundreds of thousands of dollars oh man i
was just like have you dabbled since or no?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you make money?
Eh.
Make money's hard.
Do you do meme coin trading?
No, not really.
I kind of got out of that way back when we were talking about the mining of the sort
of quote unquote early meme coins.
Although I did buy Doge back when, remember when Doge like had a moment?
Yeah.
I bought some, I made, you know, like 1500 bucks.
It was nothing, but I was like, eh.
I feel like Doge is going to be the one that like is the OG of OG meme coins, you know?
Did you hear that dog died?
The dog died?
Yeah, the dog.
The Doge dog, yeah.
Fuck.
Passed away like six months ago, three months ago.
Damn.
Two weeks ago.
Six months ago, two weeks ago.
All right.
Um. Oh. Let, two weeks ago. All right. Oh.
Let's talk about Tyson.
Yeah, so by the way, first off.
Are you going?
I'm not going, it's postponed.
I know, Gus, postpone. It may not even happen.
Tyson would have murdered him.
You think so?
He's an actual boxer.
Jake Paul is a fine
amateur
boxer
could you take on Jake Ball
nah probably not
he's big
and he literally boxes
and he boxes
more than I do
yes
but it's one of those things where
Tyson is fucking Tyson
yeah
like that guy is a monster
yeah but also he had that heart
he had something going on in the airplane where he got that's why it's postponed and i don't
think it's actually going to happen uh to be honest i think that it's november now you need
to stop what do you think it is i i don't buy that fucking old you know what i mean like the
guys what how old is tyson 60 57 something like I think. 57, something like that. Boxer years, that's 75.
That guy's been punched in the face. You wouldn't fight him.
I would never.
He could be 105, and I'd be like, nah.
Okay, let me ask you a question.
By the way, have you seen the fucking thing where he was like, oh, yeah, I'm just going to do a little punch.
Sparring, and it looks like he murdered someone.
He's fucking murdered people, bro.
So let me ask you a question.
He's 57 right now. Yeah. This is real talk. Real talk, okay? someone. He's fucking murdered people, bro. So let me ask you a question. He's 57 right now.
Yeah.
This is real talk.
Real talk, okay?
Yes.
Let's focus.
57.
I asked, it's funny, I tried to get Tim Ferriss to do this.
He wouldn't take this bet, but this is a modified version of this.
Okay, good.
Because if Tim's saying it out, I'm out.
He's much smarter than me.
So Tyson's 70.
Yes.
Old Tyson.
Gray hairs. Tyson's. He already has gray hairs. Hold on. Tyson's 70. Yes. Old Tyson. Gray hairs.
Tyson's.
He already has gray hairs.
Hold on.
Tyson 70.
Yes.
Five million bucks to go in the ring with him.
Well, that's, okay, that's a different question.
I.
Would you do it?
Well, okay.
Oh.
I would have questions about what I needed to do in the ring.
Fight him.
Well, in that case, no.. Well, in that case, no.
Pretty straightforward.
In that case, no.
You're not doing crochet together, dude.
No, but I'm just saying,
like if they ring the bell
and I walk up,
skibbity-pap,
and jump out the ring
and I get my five mil,
I'm doing that.
You're going like the full rounds with Tyson.
Do I have to let him hit me
or can I just run around?
Okay, let's say 65-year-old
Tyson, because he could chase you then.
Well then no! Not even close, dude!
Here's what I'm going to say.
My hedge for the
I mean, one punch. But he could
fucking kill me with one punch.
No, he wouldn't kill you. At 65
he wouldn't kill you. Bro.
He could break some ribs. My head
and his 65-year-old arms would murder me.
I've played Mike Tyson Punch-Out too many times.
That's not a thing.
That's not equivalent.
No, I mean, he knocks you down in one hit.
Like, it's scary.
No, I know.
Okay, so it is equivalent.
He frightened us from childhood.
Yeah, that's true.
Because any time you get into Mike Tyson's Punch-Out with him,
he would hit you in one hit, and he'd knock you down.
Yeah.
I know Toast.
What do you want Toast?
He's like party.
I want to party.
Yeah.
Long story short
would you get in?
Let's flip the script at us.
Okay.
70 year old Tyson.
I'll take him on.
How old would I be?
Oh not now?
Like you would be older too?
Yeah we'd both be older.
Oh well then fuck no, dude.
I would have a fucking seizure looking at him coming towards me.
Yeah, I don't think I'd ever want to fight Tyson, even if I was, like, 70 and he was, like, 98 or whatever.
Yes.
The fuck it would be.
He'd be like, I guess I'll just.
Have you guys ever been knocked out?
Do you know what that feels like?
Knocked out?
I've never been knocked out.
Have you been knocked out?
I have been choked out,? I've never been knocked out. Have you been knocked out? I have been, I have been choked out,
but I've not been knocked out.
Grindr shit.
It's the Grindr shit.
But people don't know,
it's a hidden app.
It's a sexual asphyxiation.
What's it called?
Anal asphyxiation?
I don't know what that is,
but I haven't noticed the thing.
What's the autoerotic asphyxiation?
I do not have it.
Is it a symptom?
How does it work?
I have never been choked out.
Yeah, I was like a fucking dumb kid in high school.
Oh, like a play thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I have been hit hard.
I've never been hit in the face.
Really?
Mm-mm.
I've been hit one time really hard.
I didn't go down. I took it, which I don't know if that Mm-mm. I've been hit one time really hard. I didn't go down.
I took it, which I don't know if that still holds true.
I mean, that's something.
Something.
What happened?
I was just fighting another kid across the street that was, like, bullying me and shit.
Oh, high school stuff?
No, like, it was probably, like, ninth grade.
Yeah, it was probably high school.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I get that.
Yeah, it was fine.
Adults shouldn't be punching each other, so unless professionally, that's what they do.
I kind of want to go to the Tyson-Jake Paul fight.
I mean, I think it would be a great time.
We could go there.
We could sit back, like, maybe, like, fifth row, and then we'll go.
Are you inviting me?
Well, I was saying we could do a live dignation there.
I mean, if you ever want to do a live dignation in Vegas, I'm in.
It's not Vegas.
It's Texas.
It's not Vegas.
Is it Arlington? Do you guys know where it's at? It's Texas. It's not Vegas. It's Texas. It's not Vegas. Is it Arlington?
Do you guys know where it's at?
It's Texas.
It's in Texas.
All right, you have stories.
Texas is weird.
Italian citizenship.
You're moving.
Maybe.
I don't know if we talked about this.
No, because there's no world in which.
No.
Well, I was on your show way back in the day
remember we did it like via zoom long time ago yeah long time ago anyway i discovered that i am
legally an italian citizen what yeah oh we talked about this briefly. Yeah. Not on a show, but my cousin actually has her Italian passport.
And I'm having lunch with her on Friday to talk about the process of getting mine.
So how do you...
Let me grab a bottle of wine.
Rules without mics.
How do you get it?
What's that?
Put it in your pocket.
How do you get it?
How do you get it?
Like, how do you prove that you're able to get it?
How do you get it?
How do you prove that you're able to get it?
So my great-grandfather, Sabino Brazil, or Sabino Brasile, was from Avellino in Italy.
And he came to the United States when he was 15 and had my grandmother before he became a naturalized US citizen. So because of that,
he was an Italian citizen
when he gave birth to my grandmother.
And the way that the Italian citizenship works
is it's passed down through blood.
So my grandmother became an Italian citizen
and a US citizen
when she was born in Brooklyn.
And so because of that, she was an Italian citizen and a US citizen when she was born in Brooklyn. And so because of that she was an Italian citizen but didn't know she was an Italian citizen
and so she didn't ever renounce her Italian citizenship. So then when my
mother was born she was born to an Italian citizen even though she didn't
know it and so my mother was an Italian citizen and then when I was born I was
also an Italian citizen. Have you run this was born, I was also an Italian citizen.
Have you run this through ChatTPT?
No, but I've run it through the consulate in Los Angeles.
It sounds very like a lot of steps removed.
Can someone grab a bottle opener by chance?
Thank you.
Thanks, pal.
Thank you, pal.
I think there's one upstairs for sure.
You opened one down here.
There's one down here.
Yeah, so we're're gonna switch to uh
mulberry from bond which is fantastic 2007 dude bro you're nervous you are cruising through your
capital no one i'm just i just want you to like have we haven't seen each other in like a decade
like i know it's not a decade because we had coffee like two months ago but it's true so what's
but anyway so the good news about the ital citizenship is... Are you moving? Thank you.
Well...
Grab yourself a glass.
The short answer is I could, right?
Because I am an Italian citizen.
Then there's no more dignation.
Well, there hasn't been a dignation.
We just found out that it was closed and canceled and dead.
The trademark.
Canceled and dead.
The dig is still down.
What the fuck are these guys doing? It's still down? Well, maybe they're building. Maybe they're building, right? Because dead. Dig is still down. What the fuck are these guys doing?
Still down?
Well, maybe they're building.
Maybe they're building, right?
Because it says Dig is still down.
They should sell it.
Anyway.
Let's sell to somebody.
I don't know who.
Anybody that's interested.
Anyway, so what are the odds of you moving there?
Oof.
Oof.
I would say before my last trip to Italy, relatively low.
Yeah.
After my last trip to Italy, I mean, it could be high.
Ooh.
It's fucking great, dude.
I told Heather, we were sitting in Florence drinking wine.
It was in the evening, and people were just milling around and i was just like honestly head
what the fuck are you doing to that poor bottle of wine i know i'm sorry will don't apologize to
will apologize to everybody here that's not gonna drink any wine no i mean i got no no that's not no
give me this give me this give me this give me that i mean you are the guy i've been to italy
i'm an italian citizen hey i know how to cork a fucking bottle.
Hey!
This is bad.
This is a good bottle, by the way.
Well, it was.
Anyway, but I was sitting there with Heather,
and I was like, you know what?
Every time I'm in Italy, it just feels right.
It just feels fucking great.
Do you speak Italian?
Si.
No, I don't.
So the next step,
you ready for this? Yeah.
We're going to, not move, but we're going to go to Italy.
We're going to go for
two months. We're going to bring our dog.
We have a new little dog named Bindi.
We're going to bring our dog
and we're going to stay for two months
and I'm going to do an immersive
language course.
That's cool.
Yeah.
How good are you at second languages?
Most of them bad.
Italy, I feel like I would be good.
By the way, Daria speaks Italian.
Hey, really?
Yeah.
Well, come over here and she can tell me how bad I am.
Good luck with this one.
Do you have one of the ones with the two prongs?
I don't think so.
We used to have one. I think it got kind of moved.
It got moved. Oh, boy.
If you can punch through at this point.
I don't want to. That seems bad.
This is a fantastic bottle of wine. Mulberry from Bond.
Oh, are you kidding me?
We're going to find out.
I don't think you understand what we're opening here.
I don't know if opening
is the right way to put it.
It's my fault because I messed up
the core. You did start it poorly.
Yeah. So anyway,
Ooh, that went through.
Oh yeah.
When would you do this?
What? When would you do this? When would you move?
I'll push it in.
Sorry, Mulberry.
There we go. There we go. Yeah, you need a decanter with a filter.
We just need a...
Prager, can you grab a tea filter?
A tea?
Tea, you mean?
We need a TV tray.
We need a drying container where they're at.
They're like a little tea filter that we pour in the glass.
Mal's got it.
Thank you, Mal.
That was horrible.
All right.
But also feels good.
Anyway, we'll see.
But the thing, yeah.
We'll both be Europeans.
Because I'm moving to Copenhagen.
Wait, what? Yeah, pregnant in Copenhagen.
No, when? Yeah, in 2020, next August.
Holy
shnikes. I'm in the process of getting my
golden visa. From New Zealand? Where?
No. I thought you got New Zealand access.
What's the place? Portugal.
Portugal.
Yeah, I'm in the process of getting that
so that's great i was spending two weeks a year there for the next three years yeah yeah yeah
i'm excited you do some investment down there and stuff like that yeah investment is portugal eu
it's eu so you go wherever access to wherever yeah which is gonna be awesome with italy um
we should all move to italy let's fucking buy a village that's what i want to do so that's what
i've decided what we want to do is we want to get one of those like villages where like half of the people aren't
like moved away and so there's like places that people aren't but there's still like the butcher
and the market and the people that live there and then we can go and like buy like six of the places
and then all of our friends can just that's where they'll retire that's amazing I mean go do a
couple months trial oh yeah that's what you gotta do yeah well I mean, go do a couple months trial. Oh, yeah. That's what you've got to do. Yeah. Well, I'm going to go, like I said, I'm going to go do two months, learn the language, see
what happens.
That's awesome.
All right.
Next story.
Tesla, Boeing.
It's crazy.
I've had three Teslas, and it's weird to me what has been sort of happening with the state of tesla i just got
rid of my last one or i have one i got rid of my other one oh you have a rivian did you get
a rivian yeah they're great right i love it it's super cool it's great it still has some problems
though of course everything does yeah not everything but you know not everything i will
say though the thing for me because i've always been very comfortable with flying. Was getting my pilot's license.
That was a big thing.
You, the opposite.
Oh, Jesus.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
First off, is this the grinder of decanters?
Why would you buy that?
Don't hold it like that. I bought this on Grindr when they were having a discount sale.
Is this supposed to be a snake?
It's a snake.
It's a snake.
Listen, I bought this like literally like 10 years ago.
First off, what is happening?
What is happening, guys?
Don't do this over a white couch.
You have another decanter back there.
That's the only one I saw.
No, this feels like the wrong way to do this.
Because you go this way, and then you pour out the filter.
Wait, you fill it, and then you you pour out the way you filter and
then you filter on the way out on the way out yeah I feel like this is first
up the noise where does the wine go it goes all the way down the snake oh god Yeah, if that isn't a hidden app, I don't know what it is. All right, so let's keep going.
Wait, where does the wine go?
It goes all the way down the snake.
Oh, God.
I'll show you everyone when it's fully released.
It looks like an Uroboros.
It's releasing its juice.
Oh, there's so much more juice in there.
Oh, no, now you've got gravity issues.
No, I got it.
No, the cork is now hindering.
Look at the bottom, though. Look at the bottom filling up. No, it's the cork is now hindering.
Look at the bottom though. Look at the bottom filling up.
The snake's filling.
There's a lot of cork in that bottom.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
Does it go all the way to the tip?
It will.
No, I mean, that's a serious question.
It will, it will go to the tip.
The tip is hollow.
Who gave you this?
I don't know, I got it as a gift.
Oh, you chose?
Okay, good, I was gonna say, did you choose to?
No, it was a gift.
It was a gift, but it is beautiful.
It's very hard to clean.
Okay, keep going with your story, though.
I can do this all day.
No, no, I can't. This is mesmerizing.
Okay, so what happened with Tesla and Boeing?
You feel like they're not living up to their promise? No, so I've always been perfectly fine flying.
That was weird.
That was the last one.
Right at the end.
Just got it all out.
All right.
All right.
Here we go.
That's great.
Okay.
Don't.
It sounds like a toilet.
Dude, this is amazing.
That sounds like a fucking toilet.
No, it does not.
First of all, this is a very...
Goddamn. I feel like this sounds like a fucking toilet. No, it does not. First of all, this is a very... Goddamn.
I feel like this is like a Hobbit-like bong.
That's just like...
It's like a wizard from the Hobbit TV show.
That's just like, this is fine.
Everything's fine here.
Oh, my God, the sound.
The sound is not good.
Wait till you try this juice.
You're going to die.
I don't want to try juice out of that give me the give me your still full of juice
Well, you guys finish that first. Okay here. Let's do this. Listen this here we go. Okay?
Okay, so that on my keyboard
Okay, Jesus Christ
Okay
This is gonna end in my wife being pissed at me
I was like, how is she letting us do this? First off, rotate, rotate.
You gotta rotate to get a little pour,
and then watch, this is how you gotta do it.
Now, another rotate, and then pour.
That is literally not how you're supposed to do that.
Prager.
Wait, Prager.
Don't make it seem like it's gonna get right.
Grab that, grab that.
Oh.
Okay, that's my keyboard.
Okay, there we go.
All right, I have both both now let me see which
one is better oh it's got a funk to it no bond this is a fantastic bond oh it's got like a salami
thing i love this this is a 2007 uh melbury bond which is honestly bond is some of my favorite wine.
Oh, that's skunked. No, it's not.
Ooh.
That's your shit.
That's better.
That's your shit.
Oh God, that is smooth.
Yeah, it's good.
It's 2007 though, it's a lot younger
than what we were drinking on the other side, so.
Older.
Sorry, a lot older.
All right, so tell me what's your deal with-
Okay, so I'm perfectly fine flying.
You know, was getting my pilot's license.
Like, I've flown myself stuff.
I like flying.
Yeah.
The shit that's going on with Boeing...
Oh, my God.
...is really concerning.
It is now to a point where I check to see what kind of airplane I'm flying.
Dude, I just booked Alaska to fly to Austin.
Yeah.
I was going out there to interview Ryan Holiday, who's an awesome guy.
Yep.
And they put me on a fucking Boeing Max.
Oh, the 737 Max?
That's the one where the engines fly off and people die.
I wasn't drinking.
Yes.
And then I just had to drink. I get that, dude. I get that. Because I was going people die. I wasn't drinking. Yes. And then I just had to drink. I get that,
dude. Because I was gonna die.
Mal doesn't know how to
pour this. Mal, work it like Grindr.
Swish. Like in a circle.
Swish, and then once it's in the main
shaft, you're ready to pour.
There you go. There it is. Just get it in the main shaft.
Yeah, you gotta fill the shaft, and then the pour.
And then release. There it is. Shaft and
release. Just like you're Shaft and release. All right.
Just like you're hunting animals.
So when we went to, I just got back from Serbia and Italy.
And when we went, we flew out on, I think it was an Airbus.
A through 20.
A through 20.
I can't remember what we flew out on.
It was a standard Airbus.
No, no, no. But we were doing international.
So a bigger one.
Oh, A360.
It's a standard Airbus.
No, no, no, but we were doing international, so a bigger one.
Oh, A360.
But when we came back, we came back on an Airbus A380.
Oh, who cares about that?
No, but it was a fun—I've never been on one of those.
They're great.
It's a fucking double-decker plane. Yeah, I love that.
It was crazy, dude.
Yeah.
I was like, how is there—there's a whole row of economy underneath our fucking feet.
And then it takes forever to take off.
You're like, come on, lift, lift. Oh, yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because then it takes forever to take off. You're like, come on.
Oh, yeah, of course.
Of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because you're like going down the runway.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come on, fucking lift.
And then finally the last second.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then once you're in the air, smooth as a poo.
Yeah, yeah.
This is huge.
I fucking love that thing, man.
Yeah.
But again, I was like, that could have been a 777 or, God forbid, a Dreamliner.
And I would have been concerned.
I love the Dreamliners.
That's a Boeing, man.
They've never had any issues.
Oh, of course they have. They caught fire. They that some battery stuff in the early days, but they're fine
Bro, you know
How are you? It's not that I'm not gonna fly Boeing scared of flying has like really there
They basically were like all about the money not not caring about quality and then the fucking whistleblowers at Boeing have been dying
What three of them have died shut up all three of these fucking whistleblowers at Boeing have been dying. What? Three of them have died.
Shut up.
All three of these whistleblowers at Boeing have died.
He should have said some bullshit.
No, look it up.
Fucking Google it.
It was suicide.
He gave this epic interview on 60 Minutes.
And he literally said,
I will never commit suicide.
If I die by suicide,
it is fucking Boeing.
Shut up.
100%.
100%. Two dead, third whistleblower lives in terror. Dude, I'm saying. it is fucking Boeing shut up 100% 100%
two dead
third whistleblower
lives in terror
dude I'm saying
holy shit
is this for real
that third one
might be dead
Boeing faces
Timor
we're supposed to
have two die
yeah
what the fuck
is going on
there's a whole
documentary about
the 737 Max
that's on Netflix
it's called like what's it do you remember what whole documentary about the the 737 max. It's on Netflix. It's called like
What's it? Do you remember what the documentary is on?
Netflix you I had no idea this was going on watch this Boeing doc. You'll never fly Boeing again. Are you serious?
Oh, dude, it's like boom was like this shit back in the day. It's called downfall the case against Boeing
I hate the even word. I
Don't know but still but they couldn't, you know,
they launched it after three failed attempts.
I'm telling you, dude, I know
you don't like to fly. Yeah. This will
make you even less likely to fly. Thank you. So maybe don't
watch it. I want to watch it because I don't want to fly
Boeing. This is what I'm saying.
And Boeing was fucking, it's
fucking Boeing. It's like the aerospace
industry, like, because it's Airbus
which is France and Boeing
which is the United States right and so it was always like whenever I would fly I would always
like oh beyond the fucking US the Boeing it's like fucking Lockheed Martin my dad used to work
at Lockheed Martin and it's like all those aerospace companies from the 70s and 60s and 80s
were like my like I always aspired to them I was like these are the fucking engineers of the United
States like why did you put a Tesla on this story and you said on our shared well it's a little it's I always aspired to them. I was like, these are the fucking engineers of the United States.
Why did you put Tesla on this story?
You said on our shared doc. Well, it's a little bit like how I, it's not,
it's less about the engineering stuff on the Tesla side,
but like, it just feels like Tesla's in a little bit of a, of a wane.
You know what I mean?
Like when Tesla came out with the Model S or, well, when Tesla came out with the Roadster, I was like, this is fucking cool.
I dig what's going on here.
You know, we're both friends with Jason Calacanis.
He had, you know, number three or whatever the fuck.
He was number one.
He was either one, two, or three.
But it was like, I remember going on his podcast way back in the day, and it was parked outside, and he took me on a ride with it.
And I was like, this is fucking great.
Like, this is an electric car.
Like, this is crazy.
Then the S came out, and Mikey, who, Mike Gaines, who was the Prager for Totally Rad Show, he got one of the first Model S's, took us around.
And I was like, this is a fucking great car.
Prager got one of the first Model S's, too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we were like, this is cool.
Do you know if he had invested that money into Tesla, he'd have $5 million right now? Of course. But that's everybody. That's too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we were like, this is cool. Do you know if he had invested
that money into Tesla,
he'd have $5 million right now?
Of course, of course.
But that's everybody.
That's everything.
Yeah.
I could have gotten
a stock at $50.
But the smart people said
that you wouldn't have furthered
the capability of the car
to be sold.
Ah, everybody did that.
You should have put
half your money
into buying a car
and half the money
into supporting the stock.
Because you supported
the company
to get it off the ground.
If everybody did not buy the car and invest it,
they wouldn't have made any money.
You know what I mean?
But if Prager would have done it,
you'd be $5 million.
But nice.
It's tough.
I have a ton of stories like that, Prager.
No offense.
But so, why would he take offense to that?
Everybody has stories like that.
It's a lot of money.
It's a lot of money.
I know, I know.
I've got some, like the Uber one and some of the other stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's get some other stuff.
So I, so anyway, so I got an S.
When it first came out, best car I've ever driven.
I was like, and I did not want an electric car.
You were a big BMW guy for a long time.
I was a huge BMW guy.
And it was, it was my buddy.
I was like, I fucking love BMWs.
I have had like three or four.
We, by the way, Heather now has an electric BMW.
Oh shit, which one?
The i4 m50
it's like i don't know what that means it's a nice it's a nice one it's like an suv no no it's
a sports car oh cool it's a four-door sports car it's fucking great anyway love bmw but i was like
i don't like their tech and so i was talking to a buddy of mine and i was like i just don't like
their tech and they were like well if you want tech in your car get a tesla and i was like i
don't want a fucking electric car who wants an electric car i get a Tesla. And I was like, I don't want a fucking electric car. Who wants an electric car? I do. At the time.
I was like, eh.
And then I was like, he was like, well, just go test drive it.
So I was like, all right.
And so I went and test drove the S.
And I was like, this is the best car I've ever been in.
Yeah.
Got an S.
Then I got a 3.
Then I got a Y.
And I was like, these are fucking great.
And then Cybertruck was announced.
And I was like, I love it.
It's crazy.
Put down my money.
So did I. are fucking great and then cyber truck was announced i was like i love it it's crazy put down my money so did i and weirdly now it feels like when i see a cyber truck i'm like that's a fucking douchebag weirdo like what the fuck why is it like i don't know and then also
i'm like do i want to support tesla like elon fucking went crazy i don't know what happened
he was like he was like
yeah he was tech jesus he was tech jesus and they just fucking went off the rails i was like what
is happening and it's okay if you want to go off the rails go off the rails that's fine but like
it just feels like i'm i'm not as excited as i was about that company as i was when i first got
my tesla yeah and it sucks because like because like, this is the other thing.
The thing I kept saying about Tesla,
the infrastructure, the supercharging,
that is the killer.
Then they fucking killed it.
Then they fired all the fucking supercharging people
and stopped investing in supercharging.
And I went, well then why do I have a fucking Tesla?
Like that was the thing, I always told Heather,
I was like, we are gonna have a Tesla for life because of the supercharging infrastructure.
We'll be able to drive anywhere and not have to worry about it.
And then the other car will just be any car we want that's a great electric car.
Right.
Her i4 is just as good, if not better, in certain situations as my Model Y.
But I just don't, with the Tesla supercharging infrastructure, like that was their chance to
be the gas station of the future. 100%.
And they started it. Because they could charge a premium on that.
But they started it when they started letting everybody
else in. Rivian now
signed a deal with Tesla. Yeah.
And you can use their charging. 100%. I'm sure
Tesla gets a little cut there. Of course.
And it's like, why didn't they just
continue to expand that? It's so
confusing. So the news came out that what happened was Elon went to the head of supercharging and said, you need to cut 25% of your people.
Just arbitrarily, that's what he wanted.
Why does he do that?
He said, no, I'm not going to do that because this is a good idea and it's making money.
And because she said that, he fired the entire division.
Oh, God. And because she said that, he fired the entire division. Oh, God.
And that's where I go.
I like the, like, you know, innovate fast and break early and make things.
Like, I like that when you're a startup.
You're not that startup anymore.
I know.
It's hard now.
It's hard.
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It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's not just the shareholders. Screw the shareholders. If you do right, they'll make money.
Don't worry about them, in my opinion.
But you can't go in and say, cut 25% of the workforce because I just want to and have the person who's running it say, that's not a good idea.
Here's the reasons why.
And then fire everybody.
Because guess what?
Now people like me go, if you're not supporting the infrastructure, that's why I'm buying the car.
I mean, that's a good portion of why I'm buying a car.
That's a good portion is why my next car was going to be a Tesla.
Yeah.
And now I don't know.
I don't know if my next car is going to be a Tesla.
My next car will be an electric car because I think they're more fun to drive.
It's not like about the environment as much as it's I don't want to fucking go to a gas station.
I don't want to fucking.
As Heather said, when I first got my Tesla, because I got free supercharging, I would literally drive to Burbank to charge for free rather than charging at home.
You should have kept that Tesla, by the way.
for free rather than charging at home. You should have kept that Tesla, by the way.
Well, I have an account that if I buy an S or an X
for the lifetime of my account, I get free supercharging
because they were doing this crazy thing when I bought my S.
But Heather was like, why are you, it blew her mind.
She was like, why are you driving to fucking Burbank?
You're driving so far out of your way.
And I was like, it's free.
It's fucking free.
It's free.
It's free.
And she goes, I would pay someone twice what it costs to go to a gas station if they would fill
up my car with gas overnight and i didn't have to ever go to a gas station and that's when i went
oh that does sound nice yeah and then we installed a tesla super or a tesla charger
charging station in the house and and we'd never look back.
Yeah.
Because it's like, why the fuck do I want to go to a gas station?
I know.
Once you get one of those chargers in your house, I got a Rivian and a Tesla charger down.
It's so nice.
It's just you never have to think about gas again.
Yeah.
And by the way, you get an adapter, and we plug her BMW into the Tesla charger.
And it's easy.
It was just overnight charges went on it.
And it's so funny. You change your
relationship with
fuel, I guess. I don't know how you put it.
What do you think about Elon?
What do you think happened?
Oh, man. I don't know.
I mean,
I don't know. No one speaks truth to power.
I think that's definitely part of it.
They did this whole thing where they
Was the DOJ camera who was that subpoenaed all of his text messages and they released them to the public and
It was a bunch of people that were just like kissing his ass non-stop or like we got your back Elon Bob all this bullshit
And they no one was like dude Elon step the back up fuck up
Oh, you like fucking this up. Nobody nobody talks to the power
It's ego money and power probably you know any power and then like what you said when he fired all those people was that
Cutting his nose off to spy his face and he did the same thing with Twitter. He didn't want my Twitter at the end
Yeah, he got stuffed into it. Yeah, it's true
He didn't want to buy Twitter and he's not the right kind of person to kind of run Twitter.
Not even close.
You have to be kind of like empathetic.
And like he's just, he wants to solve things with machines.
And like that's, it's way too much of an emotional engine in the ecosystem.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
To like, you know, just solve it with just math.
Also like changing the name to X.
Like it's such a weird move. It's really weird. And it's such a weird, well,, just solve it with just math. Also like changing the name to X. It's such a weird move.
It's really weird.
It's such a weird.
Well, did you hear it?
So one of the stories that came out was that he had wanted to change the name of PayPal to X.
Yes.
But that's how long he's had X.com.
Oh, yeah.
And everybody was like, no.
No.
We have a brand.
You know what I mean?
He killed the brand.
You guys did a live Dignation the PayPal paid for on the stage at their
PayPal X conference on you did it and you set put the couch on the X
Interesting
It was a guy Prager. What'd you say?
Did was a lot of nation was called the PayPal X conference?
Yeah, and we put the couch on the middle of the X that had to be influenced by a long
I just thought about that what we did the show there that's crazy interesting did people pay pay us yeah did paypal pay us
paypal paid us did they citizen they used paypal it was kind of weird
anyway all right what was it what's the last story of the day
oh god this is gonna be the last story of the day? I mean, you put it in there.
What is that?
I don't know what that means.
So I thought this would be a great opportunity to apologize to all of the fans at all of the live Dignation events.
Actually, all of them, because this happened post-Dignation.
You weren't wearing deodorant?
No, I was wearing so much deodorant.
If I ever put my arm around you to take a picture
and my armpit was a swamp and disgusting.
Because here's the thing.
I don't even know what you're talking about right now.
I have always, all through my life, my pits sweat.
Even, remember when we started doing the screensaver?
Are they sweating right now?
No, they're not.
And this is what I was going to say.
Do I have an ear?
They're warm, but no, no, no, fine, yeah.
I think I'm good.
But they're warm, as a normal human would be after doing all this drinking.
Yeah, a little warm, yeah.
You know, but nothing, and you know, maybe damp, if anything.
Yeah, like a little bit of moisture.
Moisture.
When we started doing the screensavers
yeah oh my god i came in and i was like this is not cold enough for me i don't even know
i mean you might have known some of this i walked in the first day we started doing rehearsals and
the screensavers and i went to the stage manager andy and i was like andy is there air conditioning
in here and he was like yeah yeah it's going and i was like is this as cold as it gets and I was like, Andy, is there air conditioning in here? And he was like, yeah, yeah, it's going. And I was like, is this as cold as it gets?
And he was like, oh, is it not cold enough?
I was like, oh, yeah, let's get it as cold as it can get.
And he goes, oh, okay, cool, cool, cool.
The next day I walk in and I go,
so Andy, did you not change the air conditioning?
And he goes, what?
No, we turned it down.
I was like, so this is as cold as it gets.
And he goes, well, no, it can get colder.
And I was like, yeah, let's get it as cold as you can get i did that for a week on the fifth day
i showed up and all the camera ops were wearing winter parkas like fur lined winter parkas yeah
and did for the rest of the run of the time i was there. They might have turned it up after I left. And the answer was, and it's funny, I told Jeff this, my pits sweat no matter what at the time.
My pits sweat no matter what. If I'm hot, they will sweat worse. If I'm cold, they will sweat
less, but they'll still sweat. Years went through it my first uh gig my first
big acting commercial gig is i booked a bunch of a series of dell commercials way back in the day
i was like fucking 20 you almost were the dell guy well i was in a series right between the dell guy
and the interns okay i did like eight dell commercials and they were really fun they had
me in a gray t-shirt oh boy and after the first take they were like
and in between every take i had to take my shirt off and the costume department would literally
like blow dry the pits because gray and sweaty pits not good and i was just like with tissues
underneath your arms so a couple things we learned long time, actually Kevin Pereira was the one that told me about this,
was I put, when I started doing live stuff for BlizzCon,
they would put,
Tampons.
Yeah, well like maxi pads.
Maxi pads. Literally maxi pads.
And at the end of the day, bro,
those were fucking disgusting.
You would literally pull them out,
they'd be like five pound maxi pads
anyway just like weight of sweat yeah so i'm talking to a buddy of mine who's also a performer
and we're talking about it and he was like he was like dude i'm thinking about getting botox in my
pits and i was like oh you got botox in your pits well i was like what do you mean botox in your
pits and he was like yeah so so you can get Botox in your pits and they'll stop sweating.
Did you get that?
And I was like, there's no way that's a thing.
And he was like, it's a thing.
And then he got it.
And he was like, dude, it's fucking life changing.
And I was like, what?
So I went five years ago and I got Botox in my pits.
First off, painful.
Yeah, but like no wrinkles.
I don't think anybody really worries about the pit wrinkles. Yeah, but I will tell you
Your so they said like you'll have to come back every year and get Botox again. Yeah, that's cool. Whatever. Yeah, I have never gone back
There's worked dude it it
You don't unless it's a thing that happens to you
You do not realize how much you think.
My entire wardrobe was black.
Why did you pick this as the last story?
Well, I didn't know it was going to be the last story.
I just threw it in there because I was like, this is interesting.
We should talk about it.
My entire wardrobe was black.
Yeah.
I used to wear hoodies.
Yeah.
Always wore hoodies.
Even if it was hot, I would wear a hoodie because it has to get through the shirt,
and then it has to get through the hoodie.
Go back to all the Dignation live shows. never wearing a t-shirt really fuck no always had a hoodie always had something on i never noticed that a hundred
percent why didn't you just put because i didn't know at the time we were doing dignation i never
why would i think to put fucking maxi pads it was just how it how it worked but when i would put my
arm around people oh you would swamp after the show it was like fuck it worked. But when I would put my arm around people after the show,
it was like, fuck it.
I could only tell it was bad.
Did it smell, too?
No, it was just wet.
Oh, they're fine, then.
Dude, back of the neck wet.
I mean, the good news is everybody was hammered.
So I have an apology to make.
But I will tell you, I've not gone back to do things.
And this entire thing would be wet.
You got a little bit wet there.
Of course, but that's normal human lights and stuff like that.
But this would be fucking full on up here.
So do you use antiperspirant?
Of course.
Well, no, I used to.
Now I just use deodorant.
What kind of deodorant?
Fucking whatever.
Okay.
Do you have a pitch?
Do you have a brand that you like?
No, I do have one apology to make, though.
Oh, okay.
And so this is my apology, people.
While you were putting their arm around people after the show,
when we did Stubbs in Austin.
Which we did a bunch.
A specific time?
The last one that we did.
Okay.
I got really hammered, okay?
Okay.
And we had posters. Remember we had posters? I mean, I remember that we had. Okay. I got really hammered, okay? Okay. And we had posters.
You remember we had posters?
I mean, I remember that we had posters for shows.
Do you remember we'd go out and sign them afterwards?
Yes, yes.
I would always draw a penis pointing at your name
after you would sign it.
Like my name?
Yeah, I know, I'm sorry.
A penis?
I did that like a thousand times.
You can probably find a picture of one of them online. Some fandom posted it. Oh my god, I'm sorry. A penis? I did that like a thousand times. You can probably find a picture of one of them online.
Some fans will post it.
Oh my God, that's amazing.
Wait, would we always sign it in that order?
Yeah, for some reason you were ahead of me in the line
and you were signing it and I'm like, penis?
Oh, at that one Stubbs?
Yeah, and I was just like,
there is literally a thousand posters
of me doing cock drawings on the mall.
That's fucking amazing.
And I feel so bad.
I didn't even notice.
I just remember waking up the next day just being like, why did I draw so many cocks?
I just didn't even know why I did it.
Oh, that's amazing.
It's just like, I mean, it's something you do when you're younger, I guess.
I mean, I don't know.
Look at that decanter.
I seem to sense a theme. It said it was 40% off a grinder. I don't know. Look at that decanter. I seem to sense a theme.
It said it was 40% off at Grindr.
I don't even know.
Oh, was that the live Grindr shop?
Oh, yeah.
At the TikTok shop?
Oh, my God.
This is amazing.
All right.
I think that's it.
I think we did it.
Oh, sponsors.
Oh, yeah.
Jack Threads.
Wasn't that one that we did?
It was Grindr.
Grindr.
Oh, my God.
Grindr needs a sponsor.
Hey, if you want to sponsor us, let's do it.
This was really fun.
I mean, it's always fun.
It was always fun.
It was always fun.
Miss you, brother.
It was fun.
You too.
Easy breezy beautiful cover girl.
Until next time.