Diggnation (rebooted) - Flow by Google, Alex Voices a Predator, and 41 Days Sober | E015 | Diggnation

Starting point is 00:00:00 Alex, you know what sounds good to me right now? Oh my god, I'm so scared. Why would you? Alex, you know what sounds good to me right now? Did she just suck up an IO port? I told her. Welcome to Dig Nation. Also potentially hazardous to your health.

Starting point is 00:00:21 All right, moving on. Why do you have flies in your freaking house? I noticed this earlier. It's Southern California and I have fruit. You put zombie and you put period in the title and I don't want to do it. Dignation.com. Hello and welcome to Dignation episode number 15. I'm Kevin Rose. And I'm Alex Albrecht. Dignation covers some of the hottest news stories all over the world, the wide web or the WWW as the children are calling it today. Yes. I'm Greg Salbrecht, Dignation covers some of the hottest news stories all over the world wide web or the

Starting point is 00:00:50 WWW as the children are calling it today. Yes. I don't know if anybody's calling it that. No No, it used to be cyberspace. Oh, it used to be cyberspace. That's weird What else was it? Cyberspace never really made sense to me. No, because it was not a space It's just it's like this. What was cyber about it? Computers. Yeah, I don't know. How is so large right now. Are you sitting on a pillow? It's just, it's like... What was cyber about it? The computers? I don't know. Why are you so large right now? Are you sitting on a pillow? Of course!

Starting point is 00:01:10 Why are you sitting on a pillow? I'm always sitting on a pillow. This is the literal pillow that's been in this studio for the entire time. You're trying to get boosted bigger than me. No! I was just sitting on the pillow because my back is hurting. Well actually, that's not true. I'm just trying to get out of this conversation.

Starting point is 00:01:25 Hey, anyway, welcome everybody, good to see you. Kevin, how are you? How are you, how are you? I'm good, I've been. I'm sorry I'm so imposing. I've been well-traveled. Well, I'll get back to you on that because I will be imposing in a second.

Starting point is 00:01:39 This is going to be a fun episode. We've got some weird shit to share. I've been traveling a lot, did New York. Which I did New York too, it was so weird. I didn't know you were going to be a fun episode. You got some weird shit to share. I've been traveling a lot, did New York. Which I did New York too. It was so weird. I didn't know you were going to be there. I know. I was texting you and you were like, I'm flying out.

Starting point is 00:01:50 I was like, I'm literally standing in a Rockefeller Center right now. And you're like, I just got here. And I was like, well, I'm leaving. That was crazy. I went out there, spoke at the Wall Street Journal Conference with Alexis. Yeah, I saw.

Starting point is 00:01:59 Talked about all things DIG, which was great. Did a little CNN interview, did another AMA interview. Wow. Bounced around what the beta works, saw a bunch of their startups, all kinds of fun stuff. Cool. How long were you in New York? Almost like a full week. Yeah, it was a full week. That's amazing. And then what else you said have been well traveled? Just there?

Starting point is 00:02:19 Just there. I mean, that's well traveled, sober life. So I was going to say say how is that going? Let me just get some wine for you sir You should I'm not ready for wine, but I so I'm 41 days in oh I was like you were not 41 No, I get it 41 days in that's good I will say I will say this is probably gonna make it a little harder, but watching that Wall Street Journal thing I was like you look good. Oh, thank you. Yeah, like I actually think it You can see the effect of the sober on you. Yeah, which is sad. I know for every reason

Starting point is 00:02:55 I just I did this CNN interview and I was just like in the hot seat and they turn the cameras on and I was just Jamming with the person and like just firing all cylinders And I'm like and then I walked out and Chelsea, our peer lady, was like, oh, that was an amazing interview, and I'm like, yeah. You're like, god damn it, sober. It's not drinking, it's sad. I mean, of course it's sad, but we know this,

Starting point is 00:03:18 it's not rocket science, this is all information that has existed to doctors for millennia. I had, I looked up my full teeth. You got your full teeth in finally? Yeah. We'll get to that too. I'm so excited. I've got so many things to tell you.

Starting point is 00:03:32 I had my full body MRI done, which I do like once every year and a half or so. Oh yeah, pre-novo or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Because I had like a little small brain hemorrhage thing, little cyst thing, not cyst, but it's like a, we're going gonna turn into one of those things that blows up. Aneurysm. Aneurysm, yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:48 Got it. So anyway, I had one of those and they check it. So I had a little bit of fatty liver, which is what you start to get around our age if you drink too much. Yes, I think my liver is mostly fat at this point. You gotta get some. I don't have a lot of liver.

Starting point is 00:04:00 We gotta get you on the pre-Novo scan. I know, I will, yeah, I'll tell you, I'll give you a little story after this. What, you didn't? Well, no, but I will. Okay. Are you gonna give up drinking for a little bit? I mean, I don't have to.

Starting point is 00:04:14 You can get two actually. Thank you. Your skin complexion looks great. Thank you. It's mostly drinking. It's more alcohol. Alcohol is chic. It's alcohol chic, yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:24 No, no, I think, dude, it's just working out. Working out. And eating okay. We've been, I think we, because we've been doing the fucking kitchen remodel, yes, I know, I'm still doing the fucking kitchen remodel, everybody. Hopefully it'll be done today, or by Friday this week,

Starting point is 00:04:41 but we also found out that something exploded. Anyway, it's fine, everything's fine, it's fine. Everything's fine. It's fine, we're fine. But that said, when we first started, it was like, fucking let's just eat everything. Like just we're ordering it, let's do all this crazy shit. And then now it's like, I just want like chicken. I just want like a nice roasted fish.

Starting point is 00:04:58 You know what I mean? Cause you can't really order that stuff in. Cause there's like, what am I gonna get? Like a little, I mean, we've gone through, first off, before we started the home renovation, and then we're gonna get back to all the crazy stuff that's going on with you, but before we got to the home renovation, I went to Costco

Starting point is 00:05:13 and I bought 150 paper plates. And we have burned through all 150 paper plates. Oh, because you didn't have any way to do your dishes or anything like that. I mean, we have our bathroom sink, but like think about washing dishes in the bathroom sink. Nah, it not so fun Yeah, anyway, okay. So back to you got the scan. Yeah

Starting point is 00:05:29 When did you get the scan was it after the after but it's it's just like a good thing with that with the liver Enzymes, it's like a good thing that I'm not drinking. So the 90 days is gonna be tough. It has been That was the goal. I don't know if you said that on the last episode. I think I did at some point maybe I was drunk. But I, I will say flying sucks. Oh right, cause you always, yeah, yeah. I don't like that. Like life.

Starting point is 00:05:54 Just like there's these things that happen. Like life. It's just kinda like it's hard. I know, I know. A buddy told me, he said the best way to know why you're drinking is to stop drinking. And you were just like sitting there going, oh god, what is this? It's a good muscle to build though, to just be with yourself and be okay with it all.

Starting point is 00:06:15 I know. You can also not be with yourself. I'm sticking with it though. 90 Bits is where we're going to be. I'm supporting. I'm feeling with it though. 90 Binks is where we're gonna be. I'm supporting. I'm feeling good about it. So what is that, not this episode, not next episode, the episode after that? Which is good, because that could potentially be our 20th anniversary.

Starting point is 00:06:36 It's coming up. July 1st, 2005 was the first episode of Dignation. Dude, that's so crazy. How, what time, ugh. It's like, it doesn't make any sense. By the way, does time go slower now that you're not drinking? Yes. Like, do you find yourself just being like,

Starting point is 00:06:53 Jesus Christ, it's only four? Well, the first 30 days did. Because I was waiting to get to day 30, and I was like, come on. Oh, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. And now that it's day 30, I'm like, eh, whatever, you know? It's going faster now, which is good.

Starting point is 00:07:03 You're just running downhill to the next beer. No Chambers I need the champers. I'm excited. Daria is still drinking. Okay, so what it's so tell me about your teeth. Oh Well, we've got we can come to the teeth, but that's why kind of my first story come to the teeth Okay Well, let before we get into the teeth. Yes first off if you have been watching this on YouTube and you're not subscribed Please subscribe to the YouTube channel because then you'll be able to know with his travels with me and life You know, it's sometimes it's hard for us to tape on a regular schedule We try our best but it's the best way to find out is to hit that subscribe button because then we'll be dinged also. Oh

Starting point is 00:07:42 You went you got a new one I did would you go with a pro you went pro you got a new one. I did. What'd you go with? A pro, you went pro, M4. Pro M4. Black Core. Yeah, yeah, I just, well, A, it was on sale, B, I was just thinking, okay, I gotta bring my laptop. It's old, it's an Intel-based laptop, it's from fucking like 2016.

Starting point is 00:07:59 How do you feel about it? These are slick, man. This is your first switch to the Mac like fully fully. Yeah. Like your first new Mac. This is your first switch to the Mac like fully fully. Yeah. Like your first new Mac. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Especially, this is the first Mac laptop I've ever purchased myself. Like everything, well I guess I got that air back in the day.

Starting point is 00:08:14 Anyway. You have a software update you haven't run. I know, it just happened. That was the little one. I know, I know, it just happened. But yeah, no, it's really great. I found that I have a weird like use case for it because it's not like I'm, I'm not playing video games on found that I have a weird use case for it because it's not like I'm not playing video games on it

Starting point is 00:08:28 because I have a gaming PC. Right. Email? Yeah, right. Literally, it's like email and Dignation. Why is that a weird use case? Well, because I got the 16 gigabyte memory, which is the base RAM, but I got the one terabyte storage.

Starting point is 00:08:43 And I don't think people buy that because if they're gonna get a higher storage, they're usually getting higher RAM. So that was like $150 off. Oh. Brand new. Wait, do they have it in the store like that though? Yeah. Oh, interesting. I mean, they only had three left.

Starting point is 00:08:57 Yeah. But also like the black is really cool. It's great. It's good. It's that midnight color, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's good. Anyway, so I thought that would be fun because I got a new laptop. So now I have a new Dignation laptop. That's awesome.

Starting point is 00:09:07 And maybe it will have some new Dig stickers because I know Dig stuff has come out. I'm surprised you didn't go back to the Windows side. It was one of those things where I was like, I like my Mac laptop, I like my iPad, I like my iPhone. Like there is something about that integration. Yeah. The Windows stuff for me was always gaming and desktop PC.

Starting point is 00:09:26 You know what I mean? Like doing Fusion 360. Which you still have. Oh, totally. Yeah. Speaking of which, I need to upgrade that. Computers, you just always need to upgrade them. It's just the way of the world.

Starting point is 00:09:38 Well, I'm stoked. Welcome to the wonderful world of Mac. And there's a side of the iPhone mirroring, too, where you can get your iPhone pulled up on here. Oh. Mirroring. It's pretty cool. OK. And then too, where you can get your iPhone pulled up on here. Oh. Mirroring, it's pretty cool. Okay. And then you can copy and paste from your iPhone

Starting point is 00:09:48 directly to your Mac instantly. So that's one thing I will say that I don't love about the, no, the iPhone and the PC. Yes. Is because sometimes you're like, oh I just took a photo and I wanna email it, but I don't wanna email like this. I'm sitting at my computer, we're like scanning a document,

Starting point is 00:10:08 I have to email it to myself, download it from the email, then email, and I'm like, it's so much easier. Because Heather has an iMac, and so whenever Heather's like, can you do the blah blah blah, I'll take a picture and just airdrop it to her Mac, and it's just so much simpler. So the ecosystem is, I get it, the ecosystem, it exists for a reason, it exists for a reason.

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Starting point is 00:13:38 I wouldn't check it, it's just quality water. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you shouldn't have any, but god damn, that looks good, that smells good. I got set up by Zebiotic, so I'm gonna be fine manana. I'm just gonna take a little sip and then we'll move on. Ooh yeah. You enjoy that. Oh god, Jesus.

Starting point is 00:13:58 Anyway, so if you want to get on the allocation list, it might be a while because I don't know if they do it, I think they do it once a year or once every six months. Anyway, send the emails to dignation at dig.com, right? That's the... Great. Love it. Awesome. I love how you beat Mike Hicks together so I don't have to hear you about those kids. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So first story of the day, and I've been waiting. I've been sitting on this

Starting point is 00:14:20 one. I'm so excited. I'm waiting for this. I'm so excited. You've been sitting on it like my pillow. So we know Google I.O. came out, right? Yes. You saw Flow. I did see Flow. Have you seen the baby, plastic baby?

Starting point is 00:14:33 No. Oh my God. Okay, that one we might have to watch, but I paid for the crazy expensive model. Okay. It's like 200 bucks a month. Okay, I like this. I got access to Flow and I started creating, I was on the I had a over an hour commute to get here because of the

Starting point is 00:14:48 Freaking traffic and started raining or in Los Angeles. What are you doing? And I'm check yourself in there and I'm like, I'm just like I'm just gonna make some prompts Okay, some prompts like just sorry, you know I'm engineering on the go on the go just so we can like try it out flow it I will say Flow is so if people don't know, you can type in a prompt, it will give you like this beautiful video back with audio. Yep.

Starting point is 00:15:12 And I was like, I have like a zero for 10. Like I have horrible prompt skills. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so here, first of all, I wanna show you, don't look yet, don't look yet. I'm gonna watch on the monitor, so that's why I look like I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what I'm doing. This one didn't come with audio, so sometimes it doesn't come with audio.

Starting point is 00:15:33 This is us. I am ripped. I am ripped. Why do I look like an old condo salesman? Hold on. Hold on. So it's supposed to have audio, but it doesn't. Okay, now. Why do I look like an old condo salesman? Hold on, hold on.

Starting point is 00:15:46 What the fuck? Hold on, so it's supposed to have audio, but it doesn't. I told it that we're done with the show, and we fold up our laptops into small little laptops. And then we ate it like a sandwich. Yes, yes. Too many muscles on you. That's why we ate it like sandwiches.

Starting point is 00:16:00 But I don't know why. It's just like, it had no audio, okay? Oh my God, I love this. And I'm like, okay god. I love that way mistake and then I was like, okay Well, what if I really do look like I sell condos and Boca and like time shares in Boca and then I made this one watch It's so excited Alex. You know, it sounds good to me right now. I'm so scared Why would you Did you just suck up an IO port. So I told her.

Starting point is 00:16:29 First off, why are there two identical ones? Hold on, hold on, so this one. First off, this is fucking scary as shit. If that was like a video sent in from a fan, I'd be like, oh my God, this gorgeous fan is, and then all of a sudden she's eating, it's like Superman 3. I told her that she was to say, Alex,

Starting point is 00:16:49 you know what sounds good to me right now? And then she'd smile and pull out a 1980s modem from her mouth. Which was the exact opposite. And then you would start hearing modem sounds coming out of her mouth. Oh my god, I love this. But it was like a whistle.

Starting point is 00:17:01 You know what sounds good to me right now? That's not a modem. It was like a whistle. You know what sounds good to me right now? That's not a modem. First off, it's not correct. But it is perfect. OK, now hold on. Hold on.

Starting point is 00:17:14 No, it gets worse. Oh my god. Watch this one. Alex, do you remember Renault? OK, first of all, that was supposed to be Reno. OK? This is amazing. I was like, does this have to do with my kitchen remodeling. This is amazing Kevin. So smart.

Starting point is 00:17:27 Do you remember Renault? I sure do What? What? Did you just put metal teeth in her mouth? I told her to take her dentures out and see if I'll put them in So it sounds like the AI can only put things in Do you remember Reno?

Starting point is 00:17:45 I sure do. So she remembers Reno. By the way, that sound is so disgusting. I know. The sound it made when she put in her dentures. Okay, I think it's better, hold on. There's more? This is just me on the couch, watch.

Starting point is 00:18:01 Okay. Why did the computer go to therapy? Why? Because it couldn't stop downloading attachments. Why did it couldn't stop? I mean look listen to the laughing. I mean he nailed me. Look at my arms though, dude. First off, there's no world in which you didn't write. I, I'm Jack. I said, make it look like Kevin Rose. No, my ass. OK, hold on, hold on.

Starting point is 00:18:27 Maybe they watched that last episode when they were like, well, Kevin Rose is not usually that. OK, hold on. All right, here we go. By the way, I'm just going to say, honestly, this is scary. I know. Because you could have sent that video, you could have massaged that video and sent it to Heather,

Starting point is 00:18:43 or accidentally emailed it to Heather, and she would really be about to have a conversation. Well, that's funny, you should save me! You should save me! You missed! Exactly. Let's watch the video tape! And here we go.

Starting point is 00:18:55 Alex, I'm not real, but I'd love to be your AI girlfriend, and I'm ready for some Windows PC action, like DOS prompt, y'all feel me? Alex, I'm not real, but I'd love to be your AI girlfriend, and I'm ready for some Windows PC action. DOS, you didn, like DOS prompt. Y'all feel me? Alex, I mean real, but I have to be your AI girlfriend. And I'm ready for some DOS. DOS, you didn't say DOS. Like DOS prompt, y'all feel me? First off, we all know it's pronounced DOS prompt.

Starting point is 00:19:13 Y'all feel me? I don't know why she said like that. So that one didn't talk. Okay, this one, it didn't do well. Oh, come on. I apologize. You are manipulating the prompter. Welcome to the show, ah.

Starting point is 00:19:30 Ah. Fear. Watch this. Welcome to the show, ah. I don't know why you did that. I love fear. Is this the weirdest thing ever? This is, first off, this is.

Starting point is 00:19:44 This is the show. Ah, it's the show. I love beer. It is just really strange. That one was a very weird one. This one I thought was pretty good. Alex, I'm not real, but I'd love to be your AI girlfriend. The only problem is I don't think Heather would like me.

Starting point is 00:19:58 Do you? Alex, I'm not real. Wait, why? I know. Wait, wait, wait. I don't think Heather would like me. Do you? And that sounds like Alison Hayslip.

Starting point is 00:20:09 Okay, so here's what I told her. I said in this prompt that when she said, I don't think Heather would like me, she was supposed to smile. Now look at her mouth right here. Yeah. And her grill. What?

Starting point is 00:20:21 She didn't embrace it. I told her to have a gold grill that says Alex on it. That was supposed to be a grill right there if you take a look at that video, but it's kind of just jacked up teeth. No, it looks like braces. It looks like braces. Yeah, it looks like braces. I didn't quite get that one right.

Starting point is 00:20:35 This is my last one here. This is the first one I started with. Welcome to Dignation. Oh my God, Kevin. I'm going to give you a behind the scenes look. What? Welcome to Dignation. What?

Starting point is 00:20:47 Welcome to Disney. What? I'm gonna give you a behind the scenes look. Were you supposed to have the mask on? I said pull off the mask to show a skeleton. So like take off my face mask. Yeah, take off my skin. And instead he was like, here's my COVID mask. So here's what you do.

Starting point is 00:21:06 So I would say here, OK, first of all, I said two podcasts, one was spiky yellow hair, one was brown hair, both in their late 40s. The one with yellow hair, let's just clear that out. Uh-huh, yeah, yeah. You're going to show everybody. I said it was a bit overweight. It was a little overweight. OK, hold on.

Starting point is 00:21:24 And the other one happens to be shredded like a professional wrestler. The one with red hair is shredded and ripped with a black t-shirt on. Oh my god, I knew it. Okay, hold on. You did get that right. The one with red hair is welcome to the nation. The other one, the other says, I'm going to give you benefit. Then pulls his face mask to reveal a skeleton head.

Starting point is 00:21:41 I see, you were unclear. So I'll say it's face off his flesh to reveal a skeleton head. So obviously it's face off his flesh to reveal a skeleton head. And so now if I hit that, then it will compute it and then we'll see here in a couple minutes. But isn't this weird? Honestly, that is the first, I mean, look, it's obviously I've been like, oh yeah,

Starting point is 00:22:02 this is gonna be a problem, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But seeing that with that attractive young lady saying, Alex, I hope Heather's not gonna mind, I could be your girlfriend. That just makes me go, oh, people are gonna get fucked up over this. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:22:19 People are gonna, because you send that to the wrong person, somebody who's like slightly insecure about their relationship, maybe they have a fear that someone's spending too much time on their computer playing video games, talking to other people, to then have somebody like that show up and say, hey, I'd like to be your AI girlfriend.

Starting point is 00:22:39 I know. It's gonna cause all kinds of issues. That could get spicy. Look at this thing. I made this thing. Oh I Made this one. Yes, just right just right Jeff Jeff right Jack. I know I'm supposed to say just right Yes, just right just right Isn't that weird?

Starting point is 00:23:01 And so I wonder say that and then I her to pour the soup on her head and this is what she ended up doing. Watch this. So I asked her to pour the soup on her head. Wait, that's the right one. Hold on. This is gets really weird. So I think it's this one.

Starting point is 00:23:15 So she was supposed to take the soup and pour it on her head. Here it is. Here it is. Here it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the ultimate. Okay. Watch this. Oh, God it is, here it is. Here it is, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the ultimate. Okay, watch this. Oh, God!

Starting point is 00:23:30 Oh! How does he not understand? She says something else, she's like, ah! I've had soup sweating out of my head this whole time! Oh my God! It is so creepy. Let's try this one. Yes, just right, just like that, yes. Oh my god, Kevin.

Starting point is 00:23:55 Kevin, you're too easy, man. I'm just trying the different things. I'm just testing it out. I'll just do that for you guys. I've tested it for you. But it's so weird. So you didn't see the plastic baby? No. Okay.

Starting point is 00:24:07 I mean, I'm sure maybe I did in passing. It's a plastic baby. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Okay. So many plastic babies. Last thing I gotta show you, because the plastic baby is worth watching.

Starting point is 00:24:16 You haven't seen any of these about the prompts, the prompt people? Oh no, I've seen that. Okay, so that one. The one where they're like two people come running up and they're like, we're in the, we're, we exist in the same thing, oh my God. Okay, this one one where they're like two people come running up and they're like we're in the we're we're we exist in the same thing Oh my god, okay this one what watches

Starting point is 00:24:30 This is the weirdest thing ever okay, okay, the reason I don't like it is because it's too real what no Microplastics are being found in human test now. Have you seen this? Yeah never trust these studies No reproductive health. Male reproductive health. Oh, I have seen this. You just see this one? Oh, I totally have. Okay, so you saw with the gunshots and everything and how he goes crazy? No, no, no, that was just, that was where I stopped.

Starting point is 00:24:57 I was hungry. This is all with that tool. That's it. Keep going. Well, you're so lucky he's naturally buoyant and you don't have to watch him. Is it Bob? No, he doesn't need the sunscreen or anything.

Starting point is 00:25:19 So at first I was like, I was like, oh, this is cute. Yeah. Right? And I was like, oh, this is gonna unlock so much creativity? And I was like, oh, this is going to unlock so much creativity. And it's so sweet. It's like a Pixar film. Yeah. It's all innocent.

Starting point is 00:25:32 Bob, you're leaking. Bob can't play. If he gets hit, he'll die. Don't let plastic end up in landfills. Reduce, reuse, recycle. I was like, aw, Pixar. Yeah. Hold on.

Starting point is 00:25:54 What the hell was that? That's the new commercial for plastic. We think if we humanize plastic, people won't think it's so bad. Yeah. I don't know, it made me uncomfortable. Yeah, I just felt bad for it. Marketing approved that? No, we fired marketing. I feel like it's so bad. Yeah. I don't know, it made me uncomfortable. Yeah, I just felt bad for it. Marketing approved that?

Starting point is 00:26:05 No, we fired marketing. I feel like it's missing action. Yeah, maybe there could be like a chase or a shootout. Fuck. Explosions. Explosions. Maybe the Matrix thing. Maybe his plastic gets stronger as he gets older.

Starting point is 00:26:16 Maybe he gets revenge, you know, to the people that were mean to him. He's got a gun! Who? Bob from marketing! Cover me, I'll get inside. Oh my god. No.

Starting point is 00:26:27 Get down, get down! It's Bob from marketing! It's Bob from marketing! This is amazing. Amazing, the Matrix thing. Bob from marketing, only on Fox. That's what I'm talking about. So that whole first half was like an origin story, right? Should we green light it?

Starting point is 00:27:00 Yes, but not for TV. Put it on social media where it can go viral. What? All right, let's get back to work. Isn't that weird? That is so, so weird. It's so weird and that's the problem. I just think these things are gonna get weirder and weirder. I mean, they are gonna get weirder and weirder.

Starting point is 00:27:34 The good news is today, it still has that like funky feeling in your heart. No, that's not good news. It makes me feel weird. No, that's a good thing because you know, it's fake What I'm saying is the problem will come when it feels like that chick who's saying hey Alex remember Reno Feels like oh fuck who the fuck is this? Well, I could make it like that Like I could yeah, like I mean it. Oh you made it do stuff

Starting point is 00:28:10 Can you upload images like for like continuity across multiple shots? Yes, like red. Yeah, like this is me. This is out exactly So yeah, so that's a great question So I can take this right here And I can say add this to a scene and I can click this button and say extend extend the scene This is what should happen next like blonde Hair guy drinks a beer and then The highest quality yes, we're gonna just make it low quality just to make it go fast And then you extend it and now it's adding to that whole thing

Starting point is 00:28:42 so now it's created so you can create the entire timeline and you can drag these around and then you can take a single frame from it and say use this frame in an entirely new shot to keep character continuity. Mm, interesting. Which is crazy, that's how they did that whole, so you can create a whole film out of this.

Starting point is 00:29:00 It's really bizarre. Dude, this is nuts. This is 100% nuts. Yeah. So anyway, that was my first story. Well, I mean, that's, well, okay, well, that's great. Flowing into the next story, how about human artists making human amazing things?

Starting point is 00:29:19 So my first story is Predator, Killer of Killers. First reactions, call it the best movie in the franchise. My first story is Predator, Killer of Killers. First reactions, call it the best movie in the franchise. So, like anybody that's sponsored by something and you want to make sure that everybody knows that it's true, my good friend Dan Jackenberg made Killer of Killers. It's a new Predator animated anthology movie dropping on Hulu this Friday,

Starting point is 00:29:47 June 6th. And I got to go to a screening. Oh, how was it? A Casquere screening. It is so much better than, I mean, I guess I sort of knew it was going to be great, you know what I mean? Because I love to pray and I mean, I know Dan. And I'd seen some stuff.

Starting point is 00:30:03 And really the fun thing is I'm actually in this one. You're in this movie. Yeah, so this on it. This is it. This is killer of killers Yeah, Oh crazy. So it's animated. Oh, yeah, but it's all done in Unreal Engine And it's it spans across different time periods. It's so good, dude. Well, that's amazing. Oh, dude, that, the Japanese one? Oh my God, it's fricking crazy.

Starting point is 00:30:31 And I will tell you right now, this is as Predator as it gets. They can do a lot of good kit, let me look at that, come on. It is just gnarly. So they made this all in Unreal? Yeah, it's all done in Unreal Engine. What was the budget for this?

Starting point is 00:30:51 I'm assuming a lot. What's it called? Prey, oh sorry, Predator Killer of Killers. But Dan's been working on it for ages, I finally got to see it. But so here's how I ended up in the movie and a couple places where you might be able to see me if you're smart.

Starting point is 00:31:12 So, Dan's doing this movie. Me and a couple of friends, Jeff from TRS, my buddy Jerry, my buddy Reza, we are away on a little boys trip. We do like a guys weekend periodically. And Dan was like, hey guys, there is a sequence which is in, as you saw in the trailer, because I've been holding this story

Starting point is 00:31:34 because I was like, I'm gonna wait until the trailer is out. But there's a sequence in World War II with fighter jets. And he was like, I would love it if you guys came in and did like the, you know, like the red leader, stay on target, I can't get him off, I can't shake him. You know what I mean? Like just the little like, mischigas like little stuff between the thing.

Starting point is 00:31:54 So we're all like, that'd be so cool. Oh my God, this is gonna be great. Now I'm thinking we're gonna go in and it's gonna be Dan and the, you know, four of us just hanging around. He's like, here's, like, give me one where it's like, oh, I can't shake him or wherever you go. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:32:09 I was like, this is gonna be easy fun. A day with Dan, right? I get an email that's like, hey, we want you to record this stuff. Are you available on next Thursday? I happen to be going to Serbia and Italy, Serbia for work, Italy for fun. And so I was like, oh, I'm gonna be out of town,

Starting point is 00:32:29 but I was like, I didn't think it was gonna be that big of a deal, so I was like, I could just record it. Like, just tell me what you want, I mean, I could record on my iPhone, you know, whatever. And they were like, oh, okay, sorry, this is not gonna work out. And I was like, oh, well that sucks, you know what I mean? Like, I was kinda looking forward to it,

Starting point is 00:32:44 but also, whatever, it was gonna be just a weird, fun thing. Cut to three weeks later, four weeks later, I get an email from the same person that's like, hey, there's gonna be a session, can you come in tomorrow or the next day? And I was like, yeah, yeah, that'd be fun. And so I have no idea what it is. I'm assuming it's just me going in and they're like,

Starting point is 00:33:05 oh, your dance friend here, he wants you to scream these lines or like say this thing. I get this breakdown and it's like World War II stuff that's like, oh no, you know, I hurt my side, just standard Mishigas like, like that. Are you like an extra in it? So the long story is yes, but the other, the continuation of the long story is there's the World War

Starting point is 00:33:27 II stuff and then there's all this Norse Viking stuff, which is just gibberish because it's in ancient Norse. Oh, so you have to make it up. Well, no. So I went, I mean, gibberish to me, it's written in ancient Norse. So I go, oh, I must just be doing, it must want me to do like, oh, the flight deck for commander, you know what I mean? Checking in, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:33:49 So I show up thinking it's gonna be just me and the person. And you're in Nors. That's not like a native language for you. No, I don't know any native languages besides English, and I barely know that. So I show up and there's like 10 people there. 10 other performers. It's like a thing.

Starting point is 00:34:09 We're in this giant audio session area with like multiple microphones, all these stuff set up. It's like a real production. It's like a real production. I'm like, oh, okay. And I'm assuming everybody knows that I'm there because I know Dan.

Starting point is 00:34:19 And there's a guy named Bjorn there who's like literally like translating the Norse and talking to the director or the audio director about what that means, and we wanna have him say, Roe, and he's like, we'll be like this. And so I'm just sitting there going, at some point they're gonna be like, hey, Dan's friend say these two English lines,

Starting point is 00:34:37 and so I go, okay. So we all go in and get set up, and I'm in headphones, I've got a microphone. And people around you, because you're doing it all the time. Somebody's right next to me, there's like a plexiglass thing behind, between me. There's a giant screen with the video looping,

Starting point is 00:34:50 like all this stuff. And then there's a iPad with all these Zoom people, like the producer and like all this stuff. And so I was like, okay. So I'm just sitting there and I've got my little sheet and I'm waiting for them to say, you know, this. And they're like, okay. And the guy goes, okay, so we're gonna do

Starting point is 00:35:04 the Viking stuff first. And they're like, okay. And the guy goes, okay, so we're gonna do the Viking stuff first. And everyone's like, oh yeah, that's a smart idea. I mean, there's like 10 of us on these little screens. The Viking stuff, that's okay, that's okay. And the guy goes, so Bjorn, let's queue up the one line. And he was like, okay. And he's like, so we'll go, Bjorn, yeah, maybe do it a couple different times,

Starting point is 00:35:24 maybe three times through. And then Matt, who's British and speaks like, fluent German, fluent French, So we'll go Bjorn, yeah maybe do it a couple different times, maybe three times through, and then Matt, who's British and speaks fluent German, fluent French, he's got the accents down. He's like, Matt, we'll have you do three or four takes, and then Alex, we'll have you do three or four takes. And I'm just sitting there and I go, okay. And I was like, these fucking guys think I speak Icelandic because I'm blonde hair and

Starting point is 00:35:42 blue eyes. I was like, I don't fucking know what the hell is happening. So Bjorn goes and he's like, Erd-er-, okay, Alex, and they do, and I'm looking at like this big giant Viking and it's like boop, boop, boop, and I'm like, I didn't get to find the gir. And Bjorn's like, oh, that was great. No way. I did a whole fucking half day.

Starting point is 00:36:17 You didn't even know? Speaking ancient Nordic, and if you watch the movie, in the opening shot of the movie, it pans through this boat and ends on this big Nordic guy, like yelling at people and saying a thing, and I'm watching the screening and I go, that's fucking me. I was like, I totally remember recording that audio. Now were you that person the entire show,

Starting point is 00:36:44 or did they even put other people? No, no, no, it was just this one guy that somehow the line wasn't right, and so they were like, we need somebody to fix it, because we're just doing loops. But the other thing that's super fun is there's like a whole big giant battle sequence. So I'm fucking, I'm one of the guys

Starting point is 00:36:59 who's getting their ass kicked. So I'm like, whoa, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh my god, it had so much fun. And you can definitely tell it's me, but in the World War II section, there is a guy who gets pulled out of an aircraft through the back of the aircraft, and that's all I'm gonna say about that.

Starting point is 00:37:19 Very clearly, my death scream. Oh, okay, your death scream. I think you snuck in like, no, it was me. It was the nation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was me. I'm like, wah snuck in like, no it was me. It was the nation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was me. I'm like, oh, the nation. Woo, ah, at the back of the plane. And it's so clearly made it so fun.

Starting point is 00:37:30 Anyway, but the movie itself is fantastic. If you are a Predator fan, you have to see it. I mean, even if you're a non-animated fan, like if you don't like animation, but you're a Predator fan, you gotta watch it. Is this online or theaters or what? It's on Hulu. Hulu, okay.

Starting point is 00:37:45 So this one's going to Hulu. Dan also is currently finishing up production on Badlands, which has been announced. That was the other thing. We also did Predator language chanting while we were doing the session. And so we did like chanting, and they ended up using the chanting

Starting point is 00:38:06 in the trailer for Badlands. So it's really hard to hear, you would never be able to tell it's me, but it is me saying words like, yo, cha. Oh dude, that's amazing. And Killer of Kills, it's just great. This is so cool. It's great, it's so fun, anyway.

Starting point is 00:38:17 So how does this work like, Super excited. Just out of curiosity, Yeah. Like do you, because I know in like movies, like if you're an extra or you do something, you get like royalties and all that.

Starting point is 00:38:26 Is that, in today's like streaming environment, is that still the thing? So that's a, it's sort of a bigger question about how acting payments used to happen and how they currently happen. And it's really been interesting because I've been involved in that sort of transition. So essentially what happened,

Starting point is 00:38:50 the sort of like quick version of it is SAG is the Screen Actors Guild, which is the union for movies and television that are shot on film, which is very specific. And then there's AFTRA, which is the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists. So like soap operas were covered, like daytime talk shows were covered by AFTRA.

Starting point is 00:39:11 Soap operas were covered by AFTRA. A lot of the radio shows were covered by AFTRA. And the delineation they made early between the two unions was SAG is used if it's shot on film, like actual film, and AFTRA is used if it's shot. But actual film? Everything's digital. Right, well they didn't know this back in the 80s

Starting point is 00:39:29 when they made the delineation. They went, if you're shooting on digital media, that's an AFTRA program. If you're shooting on film, that is a SAG program. So it became an issue, I think Modern Family might have been one of the main ones that sort of did it, which was SAG had a lot of big minimums for television shows.

Starting point is 00:39:48 So like if you were a, and they were pretty substantial, so like if you were a sitcom actor, you would get something, I think the SAG minimum at the time in the like late 90s was sort of around like $36,000 an episode, but you're shooting 26 episodes over the course of a season. And you get money when it gets replaced. And every time it aired, you would get another version

Starting point is 00:40:10 of that check. Smaller? First it would be the same, then it would start going down. Holy shit. Same with commercials. Right, so it was very lucrative. You could make like hundreds of thousands

Starting point is 00:40:17 off a single episode. Easily. Oh wow, that's insane. Yeah, and by the way, when you went in to sell the stuff into syndication, that's why a lot of the television shows had big celebratory parties at 100 episodes, because when you hit 100 episodes, you could package the show and sell it to syndication,

Starting point is 00:40:31 which is like selling it to the local NBC affiliate in Des Moines and in New York and in New Jersey, and then that would become way more money back to the actors and performers. So everybody wanted to get to that 100 episode mark. Anyway, AFTRA had much lower minimums, right? Because it's not Friends or Cheers. It's daytime talk show, right? You know what I mean? Mori Povich. So what happened was shows like Modern

Starting point is 00:40:57 Family realized, hey, digital video is fine. But if we use digital video, there's a loophole here. We can have this be an after a program, not a SAG program, so we can save money on residuals and all that stuff. All of that stuff kind of got figured out. They ended up merging, the two unions merged, but at the same time, things like our show came out. Well, what does SAG do? I'm a SAG actor. They wanted to make sure they got their piece, so they created this thing called the New Media Agreement, which was not minding, so So they created this thing called a new media agreement, which was not minding, so like you didn't have

Starting point is 00:41:27 to have a new media agreement, but they would want you to use a new media agreement. But the new media agreement was, hey, if it's streaming and not being aired on a television network, you can pay them completely garbage because we just want to get into the game. Oh, because they didn't think streaming was it? What they didn't think was,

Starting point is 00:41:47 what about something called Netflix? Right, right, we're right. So when Netflix started coming out and started doing their own shows, they didn't have to use SAG or after a big television agreement, they could do new media agreements. So all this stuff just got completely clued

Starting point is 00:42:03 because the unions weren't able to see, I mean nobody really was at that point really being like, this is gonna be a big deal, like internet television is gonna become a big giant thing, because they were thinking of it more like YouTube channels, you know what I mean? They weren't thinking of it like, well what if Amazon starts streaming content?

Starting point is 00:42:21 They probably have like no rights in there for AI, like they're never thinking that far ahead. Yeah, exactly, 100%. I mean, that was the big strike, was that somebody in the writer's guild, somebody was like, well, what about AI? And they were like, oh God. And then that was why the strike got, yeah,

Starting point is 00:42:34 the why the strike was so bad. Anyway, so. Can we pull a video real quick of the laptop real quick? Just out of curiosity, why you were talking. Okay, that's a wrap, shows over. I've never watched I mean that's basically what happened I I can I can redo that which is that that is it's actually a pretty decent predator is that yeah that's not bad isn't't that crazy? It's not armored, but that is pretty good That was like in 20 seconds, oh my god, dude, this is it's it's this is the thing AI

Starting point is 00:43:14 It's like when mid-journey came out and everybody was doing like the the like cartoon version of themselves for like an hour Yeah, it's like it's so fun how the novelty hits, and then it's like, but where's the application gonna be? Because I definitely think there's gonna be applications for this. I 100% feel like if you're a student filmmaker or a young filmmaker, to be able to just make animatics of scenes

Starting point is 00:43:40 that you can just show actors and be like, this is what we're shooting today. Oh, I haven't even tried to do any animation with it. That's interesting. Bro. Okay. Cartoon version. Yeah, let's do the cartoon version of that. Yeah, just write, make the cartoon version of this.

Starting point is 00:43:53 Okay, this is a cartoon of... And run. There we go. Look at that, boom. See, co-directing. Look at that. Co-directing. You get 10% of the world. Yeah, but I'm telling you, like, seriously, I know he's my bud, but, like, you should

Starting point is 00:44:11 ... everybody should watch it. It comes out Friday. That's awesome. Were you considered part... were you a loop group? Yeah. So it was a loop group. That is one of the most sought after positions because not only are you... you step in for ... it's loop groups of people in the background, like at restaurants, where they're mouthing things, but they can't say anything for audio.

Starting point is 00:44:28 But then the loop group comes in and they're just, they're all in a room, in an ADR room, filling in the words, like, Kevin and Alex are over there having a conversation, whatever, right? They're the wall of, like, just the words that you can't really hear, but you can hear the soundtrack. But they step in for like 45 minutes or so and they get paid like their two or three day minimum

Starting point is 00:44:49 of SAG wages. And what happened traditionally is producers would get their wives into Luke Grooves. Crazy. Oh yeah. Just double dip. It is the least amount of work for a full SAG pay. It is really a sort of like,

Starting point is 00:45:03 it's sort of this like, still unspoken of area of acting. I will say, it was some of the most fun acting that I have done in my life. Will you do more of it now that you've done this? So yeah, because I connected with the guys that run the Luke Group and they were like,

Starting point is 00:45:20 dude, this is great, like you were great, because at lunch, I was like, this is really fun. And they were like, what do you mean? And I was like, I like doing this, like this was really fun. And they were like, you, this is great. Like, you were great. Because at lunch, I was like, this is really fun. And they were like, what do you mean? And I was like, I like doing this, like this was really fun. And they were like, you haven't done this before? And I was like, no. And they were like, dude, it seems like you've done this a bunch.

Starting point is 00:45:33 But like the full big giant fight scene was so fun because they were like, okay, Alex, you'll be the guy who comes running up and hits and then gets stabbed in the gut. And I'm like, okay, you know, Bill, you'll be the guy who runs up and does this. And then they're like, okay, one, three, two, one, go. And then you're like,

Starting point is 00:45:49 ugh, ugh, ugh, and then the next guy comes up and is like, ugh, because they're not, the actors who did the voices are not going to sit there for half a day and just scream. Right, right, right. I will. And it was so much fun. That is awesome.

Starting point is 00:46:04 Yeah, there's like a guy that burns on a fire that was me. Perfectly. 100%. And that's why I was able to nail, that's why I think they used my voice for the Viking guy because they had already fully animated him. He was already done. The mouth has to match up.

Starting point is 00:46:17 The mouth has to match up. The feeling of what he's doing has to match up. And I just happened to nail it a couple times and nailed it a little bit better than, they had like two other guys trying to do it too. And they probably didn't even know it was me, they just were in the booth with these lists of audios and they went, yeah, that one's fine.

Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah, that's awesome. But it's super cool because it's like literally like within two minutes of the movie I'm like sitting there with Heather and I was like, fuck you, fuck me. That's so cool, I love it. Super fun. Anyway, congrats Dan. Yeah, congrats. Sure will be seeing more of you. Very cool. I love it super fun anyway congrats Dan. Yeah, congrats sure. We'll be seeing more of you very cool soon

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Starting point is 00:50:57 Apple is jumping straight to iOS 26. What? They're going to iOS 26 with their next release. Is this like an April of Fools? It's not April of Fools. So they're doing yearly releases. Well, okay. Yeah, remember like Word 95 and shit like that?

Starting point is 00:51:17 Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Windows 95? Yeah, yeah, yeah, like stuff like that. Got it. They're going to, so I think, they're not saying why they're making this change, but they jump instead of doing iOS 19 They're going to iOS 26, which will come out in 20 in 26 But and then it'll be incremented like it'll be 26 one. Well see that's the whole thing

Starting point is 00:51:36 It's like I remember when back in the day when software vendors used to do this like there was like word 97 or whatever was they could never keep up with the next year. Because they would fall behind. And then you felt like you were running old software. Because it was like, it's 2000 already, what am I doing on Word 98? Yeah, exactly. Even though it was the most current word.

Starting point is 00:51:58 I just don't like this, I feel like what this is, I know exactly what's happening. So this is my gut. My gut is telling me that inside of Apple, they lost, they're getting their asses kicked in AI. Siri sucks. For sure. Siri, Apple intelligence sucks.

Starting point is 00:52:11 It's horrible. It's a button on my phone that I only ever look down and it's like, look at this. Siri's doing, stop Siri. Yeah, it's now, it's even kicking in. Stop my phone. Stop my butt. Don't my phone. Don't my butt.

Starting point is 00:52:23 It did say butt on there. Because it knows what I'm saying. Yeah, so. Like every time I see the little button on the thing and my screen's pulsating, I'm like, oh, accidentally hit the button that I never use. And then it's like the best it can do is actually ask ChachiBeatty to do it for it. Right, which takes longer.

Starting point is 00:52:35 It's a nightmare. Anyway, they miss the boat, they'll catch up, they have billions and billions and trillions and billions of dollars. I'm not crying for Apple yet. But I will say, I think what happened is, they're like, okay, this seems like a big company thing. Like, how do we go to yearly releases?

Starting point is 00:52:53 Because we got to like motivate the engineers. Like every year we ship, we ship fast. You see what I'm saying? I totally see what you're saying. I totally see what they're doing. I totally see what you're saying. Because they're like, we got to like make sure that we push the software engineers to like.

Starting point is 00:53:05 Break it and ship it. Every year we ship the app. We're brand new. Ship it. I'm telling you, they're gonna miss a year. We'll get 26. Oh, quit putting it better. I mean, but also what.

Starting point is 00:53:15 It'll be underwhelming stuff. Yeah, but I was gonna say, what's, you know, you could just make 26.8, 27. Yeah. I mean, right,, we're in 27. That's what they're into. And they're like, well, there's nothing really groundbreaking, but let's brand it 27, welcome to the future.

Starting point is 00:53:31 That's what they'll do. January 27. And then they'll do micro updates and bigger. We're talking about fucking 2026. I know. Like it's nothing. That's fucking weird. It is weird, isn't it?

Starting point is 00:53:42 For anybody my age, it's weird. Do you think it's weird. It's weird. Do you think it's more of a consumer pressure thing? Like if you were to ask me what operating system I'm on, I could probably look at the phone and tell you, but I wouldn't know if it's the latest. Like now, now like, oh I'm on 83. It's a great point.

Starting point is 00:53:55 You kind of check two boxes at once. That's interesting, yeah. Because I don't know what iOS I'm running. I know it's 18, but I don't know why I know that. Do you know what Mac OS it is? Oh fuck no, I just got this thing. I mean it's the newest, I just got know why I know that. Do you know what Mac OS it is? Oh, fuck no, I just got this thing. I mean, it's the newest, I just bought it. It's Sequoia 15.5.

Starting point is 00:54:09 First off, the names, no. Do you know how many times when I'm helping a friend out and I'm like, what do you want? Snow Leopard face, okay? And then I have to Google, what's the order again? And is it better than Manchester by the sea? How about you go into your OS, and it says software update, and it says latest.

Starting point is 00:54:26 Or like one version behind. Oh, that would be so good. It looks like I'm, appear to be one version behind. That would be fucking genius. It's like, it's ladies first. Cause also it'd be like, I'm two behind, I don't know, what are the, what is it update? I don't know, it's stable, I'll do it later.

Starting point is 00:54:41 I need to get the new phone apparently, cause it says I'm three behind and needs new phone. Like I should say it like needs new phone, three behind. I mean, they're basically doing that. You might as well just say it. You might as well do like old people shit now. This is like such old people. I can't remember my number. How do I know my phone's not a 10 or a 13?

Starting point is 00:54:56 Grandpa, it's old. I can see it. But there's something to that. Just like last version. You're like, ah, I got the last version. But also like just say what it is. Like we all know if 18 like, oh, I got the last version. But also like, just say what it is. Like we all know if 18.2 is what I got

Starting point is 00:55:09 and 18.3 is the newest, then just say this is the newest. I don't need to know that it's 18.3. What does that even matter to me? It's actually not a bad idea for like an about page on the iPhone where you go there and it's like instead of like listing out like just random specs, it says says, camera is two generations behind. You're like, oh, okay, well, maybe I should have.

Starting point is 00:55:30 Newest generation, two generations. I don't know, I just feel like. That's actually smart. You could do that with processors too. Oh, you've got the, you know. You want to know what's jacked up. So I went and got a new. Our fucking AI guys is what's jacked up.

Starting point is 00:55:41 I mean, they're definitely jacked. It's on the bar. Where's my phone? On the bar. It's on the bar. Where's my phone? On the bar. It's on the bar? Oh, coming to the bar. So I have a... You went to the bar?

Starting point is 00:55:49 There's a little bar right here. I got a nice little sleeve. You know what that is? In my little sleeve. Oh! Isn't that nice? Is that just a... You don't have to have a case.

Starting point is 00:55:56 It's like a nice little sleeve, like that. Oh, shit, that's actually... The sleeve? That's actually... Isn't that nice? That's interesting. Yeah? I'm gonna tell you, because I go naked. You go raw doggie.

Starting point is 00:56:05 I raw doggie it. You raw doggie it and it hits your cheese, it hits other stuff in your pocket. I don't put my keys in the pocket in the thing. Oh, you know not to. I can't. I can't. And by the way, I was looking at a new wallet in New York and it was a little hard and I was like, I can't put that in there with my phone.

Starting point is 00:56:19 This, this is kind of nice. So I will tell you. What is it? Listen, I'm going to give my little secrets. It says do not talk about it. So I will tell you. What is it? Listen, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, give my little specifics. It says do not talk about it. No, no, no. I, I, this is a brand that I think is,

Starting point is 00:56:30 it's, it's slightly pricey. What phone is this? That's what, I got the new phone. This is the E, this is the E version. Like what's the E? I don't even know what that is. Economical? Maybe, efficiency.

Starting point is 00:56:41 So I got this new phone because my other one, I got a crack in it and kind of dropped it It wasn't working and I picked this one up and I was gonna get the last version of the phone because it's a little bit Smaller than the current version. Yep. Yep. The pro is yeah. Yeah, tiny bit smaller pro I was like 15 cuz like why not? I don't care. Yeah, I said no Apple intelligence support I'm like dude, that's some bullshit. Are you telling me the last phone can't run a process it? I'm not that nice Yeah, exactly. There's that fucking funny. Yeah If you want things like super computationally intense, it's like you can't even work. Do you mean se is it the se?

Starting point is 00:57:19 Yeah, yeah, what my phone now? Yeah, it's no it's it's the, let's see, iPhone. I think it's SE. Is the SE? So this one is the 16E. It's the 16E is what this one is. 16E. Oh, so they did drop the S. It has a crappier camera, but it is smaller. You can see it's lighter and like thinner.

Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah, and it's great. It doesn't keep your pocket as much. And it's great for Apple intelligence. Yeah, exactly. Oh, it is lighter. Yeah, it is lighter. Well, I mean, mine's a Pro a Pro Max epic 516 so but the only thing it doesn't have this doesn't have the magnetic connector So I can't snap it to like a oh, that's interesting. Yeah, that sucks I know cuz that's what I have one of my favorite things anyway

Starting point is 00:57:58 This leather case can't have it. You know what guys you just can't have it all this leather case is called hard graft You know what guys, you just can't have it all. This leather case is called Hardgraft, G-R-A-F-T dot com. This is my little hidden secret. Is Hardgraft? It is. So this is a company that's based out of the UK. I can't remember exactly. They're somewhere in the UK.

Starting point is 00:58:18 And they have all these little tiny little pouches and shit and little bags and like these cool little cases and all kinds of stuff. Oh they have the like type stuff and If there's my little case right there and it is not actual cheap It's not cheap, but it is high quality. It's not also crazy expensive. So it's not like a How much is that one? 145 okay, it's a little expensive.

Starting point is 00:58:45 I mean for a sleeve for your phone that looks like you're checked. It's not like designer sleeves, like if you went and got this at like a freaking, like one of those brand brands, it'd be like $7. Oh, one of those fucking brand, Burberry sleeve, I hear you.

Starting point is 00:58:57 Like a Hermes. Hermes sleeve. I mean if this was a Hermes, this would be like two Gs or something. Oh, easy, easy. So I mean 143 bucks. But anyway, these things last forever. I'm spitting everywhere.

Starting point is 00:59:07 Where I don't drink, I spit. I don't know what's going on down there. I'm seeing you need a drink. It's because you're like a vampire that's near a nubile child. Exactly, I'm like, you can smell the wine. And you're like, ah, ah, ah.

Starting point is 00:59:19 I'll be like, Jesus, Kevin, get away. You can have your own glass. I want it so bad. I want it, I want it so bad. So anyway, Apple, thank you. I'm actually glad. I'll know what if I have your own glass. What it's so bad. I want it. I want it so bad. So anyway Apple. Thank you I'm actually glad I'll know I'll know what if I have the current version 26 easy I mean that is the year if you don't know what year it is. No, that's nice I mean, yeah, 26 you're like what years it by the way that does happen Is that that way? No. Yeah, I'm when you go change over. You know what you're five. It's like what Jesus Christ

Starting point is 00:59:44 What's happening the other day my kids were like dad how old are you? I'm like, oh 47 and Daria's like, did you 48? And like I'm like I took it took two seconds and I'm like You're like beep beep beep. I know Yeah, it was an extra beep bro. It wasn't even beep boop beep was it beep boop beep beep beep You're like process it. All of a sudden steam's coming out, it's like not optimized for Kevin intelligence. Well first of all, my house broke down in January, so when I went, my birthday was in February,

Starting point is 01:00:12 I was thinking a lot of things. And then I was just like, damn, it's going so fast. Yeah, it, yeah, it, Jesus Christ. Well, we're gonna be 50 soon. Toaster's still alive. Fuck yeah, Toaster. Yeah, he's kicking ass. Fuck yeah. How is he now? He's almost 16,. Fuck yeah, Toaster. Yeah, he's kicking ass. Fuck yeah.

Starting point is 01:00:25 How is he now? He's almost 16, dude. Dude, for a big dog, that's big. I mean, he's not big. He's like 30 pounds. Yeah, but he's a big dog. I would classify him as not- He's pleasantly plump.

Starting point is 01:00:35 Well, he's not like a German shepherd. Or we should make an AI thing of him. Oh God. Anyway. Too much, too much, Kev. Buff Toaster. We're gonna be Buff Toaster. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:00:43 But we are going to be, I love the animated predator thing. That's very fun That's very fun. I should send that to Dan email that to me. I'll say well I'll be like this is what Kevin came up with while we were talking about it on the show But yeah, dude, we're gonna be 50 have you thought about what you're gonna do for your 50th birthday I've not what are you gonna do? You have like a no party. No, I have not so I'm gonna do I have to do something crazy though, dude Oh, I want to go to Antarctica Okay, that tracks. Do you see I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, would you go? Would you come?

Starting point is 01:01:11 I'm 100% I you have to get one of those vessels that like breaks through the glaciers and shit. Yes an icebreaker Yes. Yes, you've been on one. No, but I've seen like you like knew what you're talking. I knew what it was I know what it is an icebreaker. Come on, but then how Yeah, I can be a good question at a party or a but I don't think you call it an ice I wouldn't know guys got nice breakers ice breaker You get there and then they have these places where you can go and they have like Amazing little like multi-village connecting like little like yeah, yeah tubes and shit Yeah, yeah, and then they have like a bart tubes and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they have a bartender and shit.

Starting point is 01:01:46 And it's the best. Dude, we could go on an icebreaker, get off. Yeah. And nothing's out there. Little bartender, chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk chk like cold I would literally be sitting in there being like you and Tim Ferriss out Wim Hof and I'd be like good luck! You'd come out for a minute. Show me how it goes! Yeah after some booze. Yeah yeah for sure sure. Oh absolutely. Wim Hof myself did. Oh it was toaster! I got him to do it. A buff toaster? I said buff toaster. I don't know if it knew what buff is. Okay here we go. I didn't know what toaster is. Look at that sack. Jesus, man.

Starting point is 01:02:26 What is happening? That dog is ready. That dog is ready for action. It's in gorge. The flow. The flow is majestic. Yeah. Jesus.

Starting point is 01:02:39 By the way, how does AI know to make the sack of the dog flow majestically in the park? Extra large sack. Yeah. By the way, please tell me it's just going to have a backpack. Make really strong legs and buff arms. Oh my god.

Starting point is 01:02:58 OK, let's see here. You can see the FAST model. OK, there we go. We'll see what happens. Oh my god, this is so great. I love it. This is the best. We could just stay here for hours.

Starting point is 01:03:04 You know, the cameras were locked. It's literally video karaoke. Oh my god, this is so great, I love, this is the best. We had to stay here for hours. I, you know the cameras were off. It's literally video karaoke. Yeah, laughing around. It's video karaoke, this is the best. All right, you've got all the Indian developers that are doing this on the back end with you. Oh, yay! Good transition, Mal, thank you sir.

Starting point is 01:03:18 Okay, yes. Next story, AI company files for bankruptcy after being exposed as 700 Indian engineers. This makes me so happy. So there was an AI startup called Builder.ai. It was a London-based AI product that essentially was one of these bolt.new,New, Cursor, any of those. Automaking apps and stuff like that.

Starting point is 01:03:48 Basically, AI coding app. You ask it, you prompt it, and code comes back. And by the way, the crazy thing is, reportedly Microsoft backed the company with a $455 million investment. I heard about that. Yeah. And so they were evaluating it at $1.5 billion.

Starting point is 01:04:07 $1.5 billion valuation. But it turns out there was no AI under there. It literally was using that money to hire 700 Indian coders to just code as fast as they could and then generate that code and put it back in. I know. You would think. but think about it. Back in the day, AI coding wasn't so instant. It wasn't like, oh I'm watching a code, this is magic,

Starting point is 01:04:34 right? Like this has been around for a bit. So it lasted for eight years. So think about eight years ago, being a company that says, we're an AI coding company, we use AI, a special AI that we made, ask a prompt, and it takes a while, because eight years ago AI, right, you know what I mean, like Will Smith's spaghetti, and then code came back and they were like, hey, this is code. And by the way, the best part about this whole fucking thing

Starting point is 01:05:05 is if the code sucks, you're like, yeah, because AI is not there yet. Right, right, right. It's brilliant. It's so great. This is probably not gonna be the first one to come down. Like I have a feeling people are gonna be faking a lot. Oh, yeah, and probably already have and people just haven't caught on.

Starting point is 01:05:19 But like this is crazy to think that like, it's also so good. It's such a smart way to be like, fuck you, AI. I started an AI company, but it's actually just a bunch of people pretending to be AI to make money in the AI craze. That's so smart. But what was the lag like in the last year?

Starting point is 01:05:42 Because you should have been able to see the code coming back to you right away. Well, I mean, this is why I think that it all fell apart, you know what I mean? Because they didn't say anything specifically in this article. Well, the guy said they were inflating the revenues that were phased. Oh, yeah. And then also there were some, now they say this is baseless, but there was also another company that they happened to be billing to

Starting point is 01:06:07 in a vicious billing cycle. Yes, yes, yes, back and forth. To then say, this is how much revenue we're generating because look, this company is charged, we're working with this company, but it's actually the exact same amount for the last four years. So now the other company came out and said,

Starting point is 01:06:20 nope, this is all baseless, we were using the service, but. Did you see the quote? The quote is the best from the company. So this is the company that's doing the bookkeeping. They said, we are not the kind of company that is in the business of inflating revenues. I mean, that feels like something a company that's in the business of inflating revenues would say.

Starting point is 01:06:35 Right? Because it's like, why wouldn't you just be like, no. We are not the kind of company that would do that. The answer to that question is, are you crazy? Right, right. It's not like we are not the kind of company that would do that. The answer to that question is, are you crazy? Right, right. It's not like we are not the kind of company. Yeah. We're not in the market of making fake accusations. So check this out.

Starting point is 01:06:52 This is the best. I asked Google to make a video of. Oh my god, it's the best. You're making all the B-roll now. Of builder.ai. And this is what I said. I said, when they get a new order. So imagine someone comes in and says build me an app.

Starting point is 01:07:08 This is the moment they receive the new order and then he's gonna tell all of the engineers to get to work because, oh my God. 700 people? 700 Indian engineers. Okay, let's see what this does. All right, this is the best.

Starting point is 01:07:18 Here we go. New query. Ha! Twitter clone, light gradients, responsive design, go! Go! Go! What? New query. Ha! Twitter clone, light gradients, responsive design, go! Go! What? You're funny. Twitter clone, light gradients, responsive design, go!

Starting point is 01:07:32 Oh my god, this is the best! Twitter clone, light gradients, responsive design, go! By the way, if that's not what happened on a day-to-day basis at builder.ai, I'm disappointed. Oh my god. Twitter clone, light radiance, sponsor response, go, go, go! So good. My god.

Starting point is 01:07:53 So good, it's like we were there. We were there and we saw it, we saw it all happen. We saw it all happen. I just love that this, I mean, A, it's fraud, fraud's bad, don't fraud. Don't fraud. Don't fraud. Don't fraud. Unless you don't get caught.

Starting point is 01:08:07 Then maybe fraud a little bit. Fraud? But also don't fraud. Would you ever fraud? But don't fraud. Ah, I don't think I would fraud. Let me ask you a real fraud question. Okay, specific fraud question.

Starting point is 01:08:18 Okay, you can get Yes? $10 million of Bitcoin. Okay, I'm excited. Okay. You got my interest okay peaked one tenth of a percent chance you get caught one tenth of a percent mm-hmm what do I have to do nothing just like you just have to give it your wall address but what's the what would I be caught doing yeah we're stealing Bitcoin where's the moral of the story? Oh, stealing Bitcoin?

Starting point is 01:08:45 So like from somebody? Yes. No, I'm not just giving you Bitcoin. I was like, I don't understand what the downside is. He's doing a heist, a big one. Oh, a heist. Yeah, a heist. Who am I stealing from?

Starting point is 01:08:54 Like kidnapping someone off the street kind of? No, no, no, no, no. Like he's just hacking into some server somewhere. White hat, white hat, white hat. Yeah, white hat. White, white, white, white, white, white-colored fraud. Come on. Who am I stealing from?

Starting point is 01:09:06 I don't know, some endowment. Some endowment? No, because that means it's for the arts. It's more about the chance of you getting caught. Like, is there a disadvantage? I don't think so. I think, for me, I would say, I need to have my moral high ground, like this cushion.

Starting point is 01:09:21 That's fair, that's fair. Need to have the height. I don't think there's anything that could get me to do that type of... Because I have kids. You don't have kids. You could do it. That's not the only reason people don't do bad things, Kevin. As a childless man myself, I'm not murdering people. No, I get that. Because I don't have any...

Starting point is 01:09:39 Did you hear about those heists that they're doing? Oh, I did! Like in Paris. Yeah, that guy got kidnapped and was being told you look 18 days Yes, cuz it was like a crypto bro. Yeah, like all the oh, yeah So this man, I'm glad I don't have that much. I'm glad I don't have that much So, I mean we don't have to cover the story but we can cover the story where it's my favorite somebody got freaking Kidnapped and held for like a week to try and get the Bitcoin keys. So crazy.

Starting point is 01:10:05 It's crazy. 18 days tortured for the Bitcoin keys. By the way, this is the thing. I'm so excited. I just happened to look at my cameras. Well, and I just happened to look at my cameras because I saw like a notification like some, you know, and I was like, oh, our gates open. Why is our gate open?

Starting point is 01:10:21 It should be open and I can fucking close it. So I'm worried about my Bitcoin. You have all your Bitcoin in your house, which I've told you not to do I do it's in my house. I'm just kidding Oh, come on. Okay. Also, it's not that much Bitcoin. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Oh Okay, next story. All right. Oh, they are a look at that. See that next story the Ori I love your e so I'm glad that Viori's sponsoring. And I wanna say thank you because they are my soft, stretchy, and super comfy, basically my workout clothes and my kind of lounge wear.

Starting point is 01:10:57 And by the way, all of my workout clothes are screwed. I need to get all new workout clothes. And you should go to Viori. I know, I saw the shorts you were about to talk about and I was like, I'm gonna get a bunch of those. Yeah, the reason I like these shorts, they're called their core shorts. And I don't have to look at copy to tell you this

Starting point is 01:11:12 because it is true. When you're a dude with skinny legs, my legs aren't that skinny, but they're not that skinny. And you're laying on the bench where your legs are in the air, your shorts fall back 100% right? Yeah, and so there's two Issues one is an exposure issue. Yes, and the second is not good look like you have skinny legs

Starting point is 01:11:35 They got those under wraps. Oh, yeah go under the shorts that like like Tight wrap you see up. Yep. Yep. Yep. It's like they tight wrappies. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. And like there, there, right there. Those little tight wrappies. Oh yeah, yeah. And it's nice because you don't feel so awkward when you have them. I love these shorts. They're great shorts.

Starting point is 01:11:53 Anyway, it is, they're called shorts, what they're called. Fiori is a great brand. They really are, and I'm stoked that they're sponsoring because it is my go-to workout gear. The whole vibe is inspired by this coastal California lifestyle vibe, which is like this easy going,

Starting point is 01:12:10 what they call like a ball, so the sharp looking, meaning that like you can wear them out to something, but also you can wear them to gym, obviously. Because you would do that too. So, Viori is your investment in happiness, and right now they are offering 20% off your first purchase. Get a t-shirt, their black t-shirts are amazing. Just go to Viori, that's V-U-O-R-I.com,

Starting point is 01:12:35 slash dig, that's Viori.com, slash dig, they're great. And you will get 20% off, plus you will get free shipping on US orders over $75 and the best part, and this is so cool about our sponsors, if you don't like it, free returns. So there's nothing to lose. I'm literally gonna go home and buy

Starting point is 01:12:57 like four pairs of shorts using our coupon code. I mean, it's funny, my sister was asking the other day, there was another product that we had where she was like any more those codes. I'm like Carrie You could only use them one time. Oh My code. I mean she can use a code. There's my code my codes Anyway, you're a comm slash dig I'm on it. We're doing it. Next story. This one is crazy. So I'm a huge fan of 11 labs. Yep

Starting point is 01:13:21 This one is crazy. So I'm a huge fan of 11 Labs. Yep. Mao's done some work with them. We have some fun stuff coming out from the dig side. Pew, pew, pew. Mao, have you seen this new conversational AI 2.0? No, I'm excited to see this. Oh, OK, cool.

Starting point is 01:13:36 Full screen. 11 Labs conversational AI is evolving. We've been optimizing some brand new features to create the most powerful voice features in the world. First up, we've developed a state of the art So watch how fast this is. So watch how fast this is. So watch how fast this is. So watch how fast this is. So watch how fast this is. So watch how fast this is. So watch how fast this is.

Starting point is 01:13:54 So watch how fast this is. So watch how fast this is. So watch how fast this is. So watch how fast this is. So watch how fast this is. So watch how fast this is. So delivery is on its way. Whoa! We've integrated language detection. Language detection. Watch this. That's real time. Welcome to our design studio. And we've built the world's first integrated rag for voice agents to retrieve from your

Starting point is 01:14:20 knowledge base at minimum latency with maximum privacy. A little rag action. Your next patient is Mr. Frank Reynolds with Ataxia. Oh, it's been a while since I've worked with Ataxia. Could you remind me of the guidelines, please? Sure. I analyzed all the best practices and found this. And lastly, why limit your creativity when you can switch between multiple characters

Starting point is 01:14:40 in a single agent? In a single agent, watch this. Let's head east towards downtown. I'm not sure about that, boss. Hey, don't be scared, man. Let's head east towards downtown. I'm not sure about that, boss. Hey, don't be scared, man. Let's just go. This is just the start of a new era of communication. How cool is that?

Starting point is 01:14:52 So multi-agent. All with full HIPAA compliance, third-party integration. You can stop it now. Enterprise-grade security. Hey, I was worried about the HIPAA compliance. Enterprise-grade security. Kevin. So the cool thing about this is now you have multi-agent support, which I like, because

Starting point is 01:15:07 then it means you have different voices, different characters in this. And so you can imagine what this is going to unlock on the gaming side and everything else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's an absolute game changer. Game changer. It's not just one voice model. Yes.

Starting point is 01:15:18 Yeah. It's huge. And then also the low latency of it all, how fast it can respond. Yeah, that's crazy. It's like super impressive. That looks fake. And then full RAG support. So what that essentially means is that like you can tie into, so typically you think of these things

Starting point is 01:15:30 as like bound to an LLM in some way, which they are, but they can also go out and hit external data and bring that into the conversation. So you can have a vector database filled with like a whole corpus of things. And like for example, you could jump all of Einstein's published papers into a vector database and say, hey Einstein, tell me about your blah blah blah.

Starting point is 01:15:52 And rather than rely upon the LLM to kind of have that knowledge somewhat based, it's actually gonna go right to the core knowledge and bring it right back into the conversation. It's freaking cool. Dude, all this stuff, every two weeks my mind is blown. This is one of those things that to me, it just feels like, yeah, yeah, it's fucking crazy.

Starting point is 01:16:15 It's great. We got buff poodles, we got- We got fucking buff poodles, we got Alex turning into a fucking predator. The end of the show. I mean, come on. It's the future of this show. It's the future of this show. It's the show. I mean, come on! It's the future of the show! End of the show!

Starting point is 01:16:27 I mean, when we started, we were like, is your Windows machine booting back up? Oh my God. Like, why won't Windows do the output? I can't see that video. I'm pretty sure you have like a serial port on the back of the person. I did, I mean, this one did come with a serial port.

Starting point is 01:16:39 It's very helpful. But like, where have we gone? Oh, dude. Like now, like we've got, we can literally like walk away from this and probably have our AI model sit in here by the end of this year. I guarantee it. It would say, well, we'll be going out like, oh, what's happening?

Starting point is 01:16:53 What if you just turn into a lizard right now? I'd be like, oh, fuck. Yeah. By the way, that stuff is like clearly like, you know, real time. I mean, it's the funny thing is, is like, think about like the fucking Snapchat filters. I mean, I know this is so dumb, but back in the day, I remember, I can't remember what fucking movie it was,

Starting point is 01:17:10 but I think it was J.J. Abrams. It might have been from 8, 8mm? No, not 8mm, Super 8. 8mm, also good movie, totally different. One's a family movie, one's not a family movie. Anyway, but for Super 8, he put out this iPhone VFX thing, where we do real-time comping on your photo camera, and it blew my mind.

Starting point is 01:17:38 It literally was like you could take a video of somebody, and you could shoot rockets at them and they would explode and it was like popped in at the exact same time. It was like the miraculous party trick of party tricks. Now you can literally be a dinosaur in real time. I mean like that fucking video, the meme video of the guy who was teaching a class or something and couldn't get the cat filter off and looked like a cat. Oh my god, I love that. Oh, yes. And it looked like a cat.

Starting point is 01:18:05 Oh, my God. I love that. Think about that. That is so dumb. You don't even think about the how, like, the compute that it takes to make that happen now. It's like so plazay. Blasey.

Starting point is 01:18:17 Plase? That's not a thing. But it's literally one of those things where you're like, this is what's going to become the sort of like norm. I mean, I fucking took a driverless car here today. Yes. Like, it's so, we talked about it, it's like the boiling of the frog, right? Like you put a frog in cold water and slowly start to boil, they won't know that they're

Starting point is 01:18:35 getting boiled alive. It's the same thing with like video calls, right? Like FaceTime calls are so ubiquitous, it's like not even a thing. Like people don't even think about it as a thing and In the 80s when I was watching total recall and she was taking video phone calls It was like well that'll never fucking happen in my lifetime. You know what I mean Johnny cabs from total recall I mean total recall got a lot of stuff right yeah except for the Mars stuff, but whatever yeah They well Yeah, you know three I was thinking for some some reason, I went straight to Multipass.

Starting point is 01:19:05 Different movie. Yeah, also great movie. One of my favorite movies. I mean, how could you not get a favorite? Meal is over. Multipass. Multipass. Can we go to Multipass?

Starting point is 01:19:15 He knows it's a Multipass. Who was your little crush back in those days? Back when you were married. Well, first off, you can have crushes and be married. That's totally how humans work. Yeah, yeah. For me, Carla Giubina. But around that age, remember that was probably like 16

Starting point is 01:19:32 when Multipass came out or something like that. Where were we 16 this thing? What was the fucking way? The beginning was a... Fifth Element. Oh yeah, Fifth Element, release date. Dude, 1997. So I was 20.

Starting point is 01:19:45 Yeah. So yeah, I mean, this was my prime for hormones and everything else. And everything else. Well, I'm just saying, this is the time when you were like, I am into something. You're like, Leloo Dallas multi pass. Yeah, I'm trying to think of who,

Starting point is 01:19:59 around that time was like my thing. I don't know, but yeah, Carla Gioina. Carla Gioina, I can't, I never, I always call her Carla Gioina, and that's totally not her name. Gugino, Carla Gugino. I mean, she, she was a cutie. Yeah, this is like my, this was my lady.

Starting point is 01:20:21 Well, that was when she's older, okay. Oh, there she's younger, okay. Yeah. Not that she doesn't look good, she's older. But here we go. All right, you ready? Sin City. Oh, what about Blanche from...

Starting point is 01:20:31 Blanche Dubois? From Golden Girls. Yeah. From Golden Girls? Yeah, Blanche. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. That...

Starting point is 01:20:40 Yeah. Oh, no, that's not her. Anyway. Whatever. Remember Golden Girls? I know the Golden Girls. There's Blanche. Oh my god.

Starting point is 01:20:47 Do Blanche when she was younger? Oh stop. I'm not even joking, okay watch this. Are you serious? I'm gonna blow your mind, watch this dude. I can't see your screen right now. Okay, can you pull Blanche real quick? I know, I don't wanna do it, it's gonna be like that.

Starting point is 01:20:59 No, it's not bad. You remember her from Golden Girls, watch. Blanche, Deb DuBois. Blanche Dubois. Young, watch this, look at Blanche. No, no, no,, watch. Blanche Dubois Young. Watch this. Look at Blanche. No, no, no, it wasn't Blanche. No, it was, wait, what was the other one? Betty White? Yeah, Betty White Young.

Starting point is 01:21:15 Betty White. Why is it happening? No, there is a Golden Girl that I'm telling you will blow your mind. It wasn't Betty White, it was Sophia. Sophia. Be Arthur? Be Arthur.

Starting point is 01:21:27 What is happening? Hold on. Hold on. I'm telling you. Oh God, it wasn't her. What was the old one? What was the old one? The really old small one.

Starting point is 01:21:35 I love when you're just making fun of the poor golden girl. Hold on. I'm telling you, there was one that I was just like, I could not believe she was a golden girl You know, maybe it was Betty White. Hold on There was one of them. Just give me a second. I know I look like I'm wow. I mean, I'm not lying Kevin try to connect again. Wait, go back up. Was it Rue? No Just give me a sec. There was one of them. Let me just go back to the main menu.

Starting point is 01:22:05 Okay, keep entertaining everyone. So, there I was drinking this lovely mascot wine. There she is! Ah! I found her! Okay. She was hiding in the bush. Uh... Oh, it was a lie.

Starting point is 01:22:22 Ha ha! Was it AI? Was it AI? Was it AI? Wait, you thought that was a Stelghetti? Yeah, Sophia. Cause it said this is not a photo of her. Now, look, how can I share? Where's the sharing?

Starting point is 01:22:37 Use the share button. You got it. AI. No, no, no, this one, Airplay. So it says this is not a photo of y'all in Stalgetty. And I was like, holy crap, not to say the Golden Girls weren't attractive when they were younger, but I thought that was Sophia.

Starting point is 01:22:55 So anyway, I got it wrong. And that's who he thought that was. Great story, Kevin. It's a great story, Kevin. I'm really excited to keep this party rolling. Call myself out of that one. Call myself out of that one. Waste of time.

Starting point is 01:23:11 Lot of time. Okay, infrared lenses, then we're off. Not now. Okay, here we go, ready? First off, this is gonna be fun. With four digs. Oh! Submitted by Etnick, N-I-K,

Starting point is 01:23:25 infrared contact lenses allow people to see in the dark, even with their eyes closed. And why do we say four digs? Now why I said this is because I, among a handful of other people, including yourself, are in the dig test flight technical alpha of the dig iOS app. And I will say that today when I was researching stories I

Starting point is 01:23:48 Did find this on the dig feed and thought oh, this is this is great. This is super interesting Yeah, I dug it and I was like I'm gonna use this so in the future. Yeah, hopefully the Will be about to be about it because this is how it started. We're getting away. Thank you at Nick for submitting this really interesting concept. So essentially what it is is that this, a bunch of neuroscientists and material scientists have got together and they created these contacts that enable infrared vision in both human and mice. What they did to the mice, it's like science, but like, Jesus Christ,

Starting point is 01:24:25 they injected nanoparticles into their retinas and then they saw that they could actually see in the infrared spectrum. Wow. It was fucked up. So, I mean, whatever, it's how science has to work, I guess. I feel bad for the mice and we all do, but like science. You know, sometimes these mice live forever. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:24:41 This fucking mice could see in the dark. Well, and sometimes they give them these compounds and the mice live like four times their age. Sometimes the mice are lucky. All right. Sometimes they win. The whole concept is that it's these nanoparticles that convert infrared frequencies into visible light frequencies as they pass through. What they did was in the mice, they put those nanoparticles into the retina,

Starting point is 01:25:06 and then they flooded one box with infrared light, so nobody could see it. The mice, mouse couldn't see it. And one box that didn't have any infrared light, and the mice always chose the box with the no infrared light to go into. But mice that- Because they wanted to sleep?

Starting point is 01:25:22 Yeah, they were like, fuck, it's bright in there, I'm going to go with this. But the mice that had no stuff, they would just randomly choose one box of the eye. Oh, Jesus, because they can't sleep then. Yeah, because they can't close their eyes. Well, no, that's the thing that's fucking even weirder. They said that it actually makes it better to perceive. With the contacts, you can see the infrared light.

Starting point is 01:25:42 Wait, do the mice get the contacts or the humans are getting contacts? They built the human contacts. But with the contacts on. It would be hard to put the little contacts on the mice. Yeah, they're just like, god damn. Exactly. They're like, eat the cheese. Put the contacts in.

Starting point is 01:25:54 You have this little contacts. Little baby one, little case. Little baby case. Little beep. And they're like, eh. Anyway, that would be funny. But the other thing that they said was it was actually easier to perceive the infrared signals

Starting point is 01:26:07 when you had your eyes closed. Because the visible light wasn't going through. Oh, interesting. You weren't seeing both. So essentially what they did was they realized that A, because there's no power in these nanoparticles, this is what they do. It's very blurry, not very good high resolution

Starting point is 01:26:26 when it's that close because it kind of sprays the visible light version of the infrared light to the eyeball or to the iris. So it's like V1. Right, and you can put them in glasses. Oh. So think about infrared night vision glasses without any power base.

Starting point is 01:26:43 Like Meta's gonna have this shit. 100%, dude, 100%. But then they also said, for people that are color blind, what it can do is they can have them take like the red spectrum, red wavelength, and convert it to green. So then you'll be able to actually see the light. Dude, this is fucking crazy next level shit.

Starting point is 01:27:00 Yeah, I mean, this is so cool. This is actually what Apple is doing right now that I think is really cool, is have you done the hearing test with the pros? Do you have the AirPod pros? So I had a weird thing. Uh-oh. I bought the AirPods.

Starting point is 01:27:15 The pros? I don't remember them. Did they have the soft little tippy, or was it a hard one? Hard one. Yeah, the pros that had the soft tip. But here's the thing. Okay.

Starting point is 01:27:27 I bought them, I was super excited. I was like, oh, this is like when they came out. I was like, oh, this is great. Put them in my head. It made me feel weird. Because of the 3D stuff? No, I think it was because of, I think I have like a electromagnetic sensitivity

Starting point is 01:27:41 because sometimes I'll touch my laptop and it'll like like it'll make my hand feel like like fuzzy like prickly. Weird. Yeah. So you got a little stack was it what it is in the noise canceling mode? I know. That does do weird things to me too. I don't know I just put them in and I was like I don't feel good I feel weird I don't want I was like in the middle of a conversation with my buddy and I was like I gotta take these things out. Why were you all you mean you were on the phone. Yeah. I thought you were talking to a friend and you just put them in.

Starting point is 01:28:06 It's like, why are you putting those in? Well. That's very interesting. I don't feel good. You know that's the whole thing. They turn them into hearing aids. That's great. I love that.

Starting point is 01:28:13 But that's the cool thing. I was gonna tell you about the hearing test is it finds the frequencies that you are deficient in and it boosts just those frequencies. Oh. Which is brilliant. Oh, shit. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:28:22 I'm gonna have, Heather has them. So here's a mouse. Oh my God, putting it in the contact lens. Putting in the contact lens Kevin Kevin with this Oh, you can't share your screen He's eating it why is he eating the first off putting in I think the AI doesn't doesn't know what putting in nice I know but remember cuz remember you were like it takes out her dentures and they show like I'm based Think about it

Starting point is 01:28:42 You were doing a commercial for a contact lens company, not that you would want a mouse in your contact lens, but my point being is that look at the durability of our contact. How much would this cost to shoot? A lot of money, a lot of money. Right? Whole crew, lighting. Mouse.

Starting point is 01:28:56 Mouse. By the way, trained mouse. Yes. Not as cheap as you think. Probably not as cheap as you think. Not as old little RV. Of course. Yeah, a little Barbie, a little Barbie mini wagon.

Starting point is 01:29:05 A little setup, you know? All right, we're ready for Mr. Scratchers. Mr. Scratchers is walking. Doobity-doobity-doobity-doobity. Exactly. That's amazing. That's amazing. It is, it's crazy.

Starting point is 01:29:15 It is fucking crazy. All right. How did we do? 110, 111, very nice. Yeah. It's good seeing you, bud. Good seeing you as well. Yeah, it's been a while.

Starting point is 01:29:24 I am, thank you for supporting my silver journey. I fully support. You will never feel pressure from me to drink alcohol on this show. I will also- After the camera turns off. Never join you, but, well, maybe I will. You could do three months. I did four two summers ago.

Starting point is 01:29:41 Two summers ago, four months. I did. During COVID? Don't look at that. Two summers ago wasn't COVID. I mean, COVID still exists, but. Yeah, no, no, it was two summers ago, two summers ago, four months. I did. Don't look at that. Two summers ago wasn't COVID. I mean COVID still exists, but yeah. No, no, it was two summers ago. I just was like. Four months?

Starting point is 01:29:51 Four months, yeah. You weren't getting the Benz's and shit? Like you weren't like shaking. I wasn't getting Benz? You think you weren't shaky a little bit? No, it was more boredom. You didn't have any withdrawals. No.

Starting point is 01:30:02 So you could go like a week right now and have no issues? I mean, yeah, I wouldn't have any issues. I would want to be drinking. Yeah. Like by the end of the year, the problem is, for me, when I was doing it, for the first, I would say three weeks. Maybe four weeks.

Starting point is 01:30:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, Why am I not doing it? It's five, or we're going out to dinner. There's a nice wine list. Like that was my like, ooh. We're watching a movie, like it's eight, we're on the couch, we're watching a movie.

Starting point is 01:30:33 There's ice in the freezer, there's Jack Daniels on the side. Like, I could just think of, hoo hoo. That was the thing that made me go like, oh. But then it was like, once I got over that hump, I also, I thought the sort of social stuff was gonna be more annoying, but then I realized, I was like, what am I doing? Once people have a couple drinks, they forget all about it.

Starting point is 01:30:55 Oh, they don't give you, by the way, what I've discovered in my 48 years on the planet is most people aren't thinking about you. Right. And by you, I mean me. Yes. Like, I assume everybody't thinking about you. And by you I mean me. I assume everybody's thinking about me and what I'm doing and am I being weird? And the answer is nobody gives a shit.

Starting point is 01:31:11 Everybody is thinking about themselves and am I doing something weird and what am I doing with my hands? What should I be doing? Is this person thinking I'm weird? If you think about it, every interaction socially that you've ever had, I am interested in that person, but I'm rarely ever judging that person

Starting point is 01:31:33 based on what they're doing in the moment that I'm having that conversation. Right. Rarely ever, if ever, you know what I mean? Extreme. Unless you get trapped. Right, but like extreme situation. But even then, I'm not blaming them.

Starting point is 01:31:45 I'm just like, this is awkward, that guy's weird, this girl's weird, I wanna leave. I'm never thinking about that person again. It's not like I'm going home being like, well that fucking weird. It's like, no dude, it's just that wasn't, you know what I mean? Like, it's just very interesting.

Starting point is 01:31:59 I remember a couple years ago, I can't remember when I had that realization when it was like, nobody is thinking about me any more than I'm thinking of other people at this party. And it's a very freeing thought. Yeah, it is actually. Yeah, because it's just like, oh,

Starting point is 01:32:16 because I'm not really thinking about the other people at this party. Let's be relaxed a little bit too. In any negative way that my brain would think people were thinking of me. Are people thinking I'm weird? Am I talking too much? Am I blah blah blah blah?

Starting point is 01:32:26 And it's like, I'm not thinking about that for any of these other people. Why would they be thinking about it to me? Anyway. Love it. Wisdom. That is... Philosophy podcast.

Starting point is 01:32:35 I will. It'll be called FLOP. We definitely could use some AI for that. Mm, mm, mm. Anyway, thank you to all of you for coming along this random journey. I'm glad that you are here. I'm glad that you are here. Glad that Mao's here and Serra's here.

Starting point is 01:32:53 You're getting a little emotional on everybody. I'm just saying. This is a great... We got to do this today, and that's a cool thing. How's the Z-Biotics feeling? I think I might be high. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

Starting point is 01:33:04 It feels great. I will text everybody tomorrow and let you know how I feel after. Because also Heather's not home, so I'm going to go home and order pizza. Until next time, I'm Kevin Rose. I'm Alex Albrecht. We will see you on the cyberspace. Cyberspace. AOL.com. In a prompt.

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