Diggnation (rebooted) - GTA 6, Helicopter Joysticks, AI Psychics, and Live Show Regret | EP 12 | Diggnation

Episode Date: March 31, 2025

Alex and Kevin recount their tequila-fueled live show in Austin, complete with backstage chaos, crowd energy, and at least one emotional moment that may or may not have involved crying. They officially unveil the relaunch of Digg.com and introduce “Groundbreakers,” a community for early users to help shape the platform’s future. The episode also dives into tech topics like the upcoming GTA game, advancements in AI and local models, and the 23andMe data breach. Rounding things out, Alex goes deep on a startup reinventing helicopter flight with fly-by-wire tech, because of course he does.00:00 Introduction – Alex and Kevin try explaining the show. Again.01:19 Studio Location – Live(ish) from Digg Hollywood. Setup crew gets their flowers.02:18 Austin & Live Shows – Alex survives Austin. Kevin did not.11:08 Digg.com Reboot – The site lives. Again. Also: secret society vibes incoming.18:09 Groundbreakers Details – Early access, badges, and archival good deeds. Cloaks not included.19:40 Sponsor: DeleteMe – Your data’s out there. DeleteMe would like to go get it back.21:57 Skyryse Cockpit – Helicopter flies itself. Alex ascends.26:11 General Aviation Complexity – Planes: still confusing. Skyryse: less so.37:06 AI Guesses Kevin – Kevin asks ChatGPT who he is. Regrets follow.51:19 Sponsor: LMNT – Electrolytes with a no-sugar, lots-of-branding flavor.51:38 GTA 6 Delays – No one wants to release near the boss level.1:00:40 DeepSeek V3 & OpenAI Images – AI on Mac Studio makes weird art. Blame the prompt.1:07:30 Localized AI & Billy Bass – Singing fish meets custom AI. Chaos sings back.1:10:35 23andMe Data Breach – Your DNA’s been socialized. Might wanna export.1:22:36 Limitless AI Wearable – A gadget that transcribes your entire life. Why not.1:35:16 Wrap-up & Groundbreakers – Sponsors thanked. Groundbreakers plugged. Internet fades to black.📢 Top StoriesDeleteMe's approach to removing personal information from data broker siteshttps://www.deleteme.com/how-deleteme-com-searches-and-deletes-personal-information-from-the-internet-and-dark-web/SXSW updates and Digg.com informationhttps://www.sxsw.com/news/  https://digg.com/"Who Am I" AI search capabilitieshttps://www.perplexity.ai/LMNT Zero Sugar Electrolyte Drink Mix and its partnership with Team USA Olympic Weightliftinghttps://drinklmnt.com/SQUEEZEDeepSeek-V3 performance on Mac Studiohttps://hyperight.com/deepseek-v3-0324-the-first-open-source-ai-to-beat-non-reasoning-models/Impact of GTA6 release on other game publishers' release scheduleshttps://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/03/26/as-the-gta-6-meteor-looms-publishers-are-fleeing-the-impact-zone/Sale of DNA data by 23andMe during bankruptcyhttps://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/30805135934615-Questions-related-to-23andMe-s-Chapter-11-Filing3D printed and factory-built homes addressing the housing crisishttps://www.enterprise-tocsin.com/housing-crisis-spurs-alternatives-building-homes-3d-printing-walls-made-hemp-0GPT-4o System Card and OpenAI's stance on generating images of adult public figureshttps://openai.com/index/gpt-4o-system-card/🎧 Listen and FollowCatch more episodes and join the conversation on our official channels:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcastSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0bzwpvUInstagram: /thediggnation

It's crazy to me that we are getting a new GTA game and the last game came out in 2013 I know it's been a minute Cut off the CEO he needs to leave Only adjust the drink like it's like I I'm just saying you don know, somebody ran by really quickly and they are already out of the frame. See, that bar is not fly by wire.

Exactly. Welcome to Dignation. Also potentially hazardous to your health. All right, moving on. Why do you have flies in your freaking house? I noticed this earlier. It's Southern California and I have fruit. You put zombie and you put ear in the title

and I don't want to do it. Dignation.com. Hello everybody and welcome to Dignation, episode number 12. I'm Alex Albrecht. And I'm Kevin Rose. Dignation covers some of the hottest stories as found around the web and the internet. Boy, it's really...

It's like I haven't done this a million times before. I'm the most excited for us to get back to doing this from Dig Stories just to smooth out the intro because it's not been smooth since we got back. Hey, cheers my friend. Good to see you. Good to see you. Yeah, obviously our copy before was based on the stories of dig.com, but since the site is not live yet Yes soon ish

We don't have say that well and we can also Say I think Believe so that though we had said that this was the Dignation studio here in Hollywood, California Which of course it technically is the other thing that we neglected to mention is, it's actually in the current dig offices. Right, which is awesome. It is awesome, so some of the dig team,

yeah, if you don't want any camera, move your way, move your way. It's amazing. So it's really actually quite nice because everybody just got really quiet when we were like, okay, let's start. It was like, ugh. But yeah, dude, and frickin', look at the frick were like, okay, let's start. And it was like, ugh. But yeah, dude, and fricking, look at the fricking,

stop up the dignity, stop the dignity, Tixie. I know, look at that. The person that dodged the camera, who I can't say their name, did that up there. That's so nice of that person that dodged the camera. Which is awesome. Thank you for making a little dignity video.

I had so much fun at South Park. I did not. Oh my God, are you kidding me? I did. It was so much fun, Kevin. I agree to agree to disagree. Okay, well where's the disagree? Because it was funny when you came in

and I was like, oh my God, it was so much fun. And you were like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Well. Like what happened? So I had, shots happened, soccer happened. Is what happened. I know, don't say it two more times. So here's the deal.

People fly in and give us chugs. A couple friends called me up and they were like, oh my God, you were hammered. And I'm like, ooh, Jesus. And like, you know, there's that temptation, do I go and watch the episode again? Yes. No, I will not do that.

I cannot bring myself to do it. I saw the clip of us, I mean, it wasn't Reno, which to be fair, to be fair, that was my goal was just don't make it Reno for me personally I see you flew in the face of that goal dude I didn't know soccer was gonna be bringing the shots up Why would we know that soccer was gonna be bringing shots in? I well we didn't know but everyone with the crowd was like yeah, they're soccer soccer soccer

And I was just like I kind of got into I said yeah, I mean there's no way we're not. I mean, look, spoiler alert, everybody knows this. Go back and watch any episode. You remember the Reno moment, somebody handed us the fucking giant bowl of alcohol that we chugged? Like, if we're doing a live show and someone somehow, because I don't want people putting shit on the stir, but if someone somehow, maybe like a guest, brings up shots, there's

an adrenaline factor, I mean first off, I hate tequila. Like tequila is my least favorite alcohol. I usually throw up. That was tequila, that was high point tequila. I was very nice. I also don't know what a hundred point tequila is. No one really does. So that was the best thing.

He was like, it's a hundred point tequila. And everyone's like, oh fuck. And then I was like, after he left, I was like, what's a hundred point tequila? And everybody's like, oh, fuck. And then I was like, after he left, I was like, what's a hundred point tequila? I was like, oh, Saga just made it up. Yeah, so basically what happened is, you know, when you're getting ready to go on stage. Oh, by the way, Kevin. What?

The other thing that they don't know is. What was it? Tell them something they don't know. You had a slice of pizza. One slice, yeah. That is not enough base to start a live dignation. Well, the pizza got delayed a couple couple times that we had coming for us. And so we didn't get it until like just before the show.

I know. I'm glad that you housed one. But the funny thing was like, I was like, okay, well, you know, we haven't done a live show in a long time. I'm largely an introvert. And, you know, I'm down when the cameras go on and like, I'm down like turn it on like it's it's yeah But I so I had it I had probably two drinks before I got on stage I believe that and about right and then when I got on stage it was like, okay now we got a drink Yep, get a set up. Let's kick out the show and there's like shot. I was like, okay. Whoa. Okay Okay

Now I'm at three and that's kind of like where I tap out in the normal like Kevin is not gonna be hung over the next day World just it called a Thursday. Yeah, right. Yeah, you're like I'm going to bed And you were sitting on the couch going like this Yeah, yeah, don't tuck you me in right now. I'm going to bed. Yeah, we have two more guests We have no I bet that I go to bed so I Will say after the the third I think we did three shots. And they, by the way, those were not shot glasses.

Those were baby wine glasses filled with tequila. It was a lot. After the third shot. I don't remember much. I remember going like this. Ooh, oh, I'm actively drunk. Yes. There's no, and even. You were passively drunk. I was not passively drunk. I had I'm actively drunk. Like, there's no, and even-

You were passively drunk. I was not passively drunk. I had been passively drunk. And I immediately turned to actively drunk. And then at one point I poured what I thought was a done shot out and it spilled, so then we had to do another one. That was on me.

I should have looked like last. You poured one out? No, no, no, it had a splash more in it than I thought. When I was like, see, I took my shot, and it went like this. Oh, and then the audience thought. more in it than I thought when I was like see I took my shot I went like this and something came out and the audience was like I literally thought it was done and so Saka Yeah, exactly. Oh man. It was fucking fun. It was fun So here's the funny story and this is fuck you Saka because you got us drunk so I get to tell this story

So Saka there's there was this after party that like I knew was going to happen and I did not make it. And I apologize, one thing I do want to say, I do want to apologize to the crowd because I got a chance to say hi to some people, but I really did not make it through the crowd the way I wanted to say hi to everyone. You did, you came back. I'm like sitting in a chair like, hammed, and you come back and you're like, dude, where were you? I was just out in the crowd. And I'm just like, what is going on? And then I had, I felt so bad. I had this person I was supposed to talk to and I was hammered.

Did you talk to them and you thought the interaction was weird because you were hammered or you just didn't make it happen? I had a family friend that came out. It was my sister's best friend that came out and brought her daughter. Oh. Who was like- To meet you?

But also she was gonna help me as an an intern kind of thing like to help out. Oh! And only... On the day or like... Just on like on my community stuff that I'm doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so she comes out to say hi and like, I am a ham.

And I'm like, this is not a good first impression for some young like, you know, person that's like getting a career off the ground. I'm like, hey, this is what we normally do. This is what we do. Look forward to this future. Exactly ground, I'm like, hey, this is what we normally do. Look forward to this future. She's just like, oh, I'm going to become a botanist. Exactly. Yeah, so it was not a good look.

But, so soccer story. Oh yeah. So basically there's like this beautiful, like little discreet Japanese bar in Austin that's like in vital and all, it vitone. They play vinyl and stuff and so there's like a group of people that go afterwards and apparently like Saka gets there and everyone's ham right and they pour these drinks they make them they're all shaken like perfectly and everything and they come over and one of the drinks is like it's okay. And I don't really want it.

And so, Saka's like, you know, little hand, he's like, hey, can I have a second drink? I don't like this drink. And they're like, sir, we can only serve you one drink at a time. And so he fucking grabs the drink, and he goes, now can I order a drink? And they're like, fuck it out of here.

And he's like, he got kicked out of a bar, which was, along with the entire group. But it was just one of those nights. It was one of those nights where everyone got a little. Yeah, I mean, as I was saying to you, thank God my wife was there, because Heather was like such a good wingman. I literally was like, because I'd come back,

we're just finished, get off the stage, Mix Master Mike is starting up, and I'm like, I gotta go make sure I say hi to everybody. And so I just go straight out into the audience and try my best to just sort of see as many people as I can and say hi to them. And so I'm just drunkenly swerving through, saying hi, taking pictures, high fives, hugs.

I think I cried with this guy. I had this really cool emotional moment with this kid. And it was just like, it was so weird. He was a kid or a man? Not like a kid, but like a man. He was probably like mid-20s or something like that. But it was really cool. It was like, we had this moment.

What happened? I don't even remember, but it was just something about inspiring, because the kid was like, ew, I wanna try to do this stuff. And I was like, I'm already, I've done my bit. You need to go and do your bit, you know what I mean? I had my fun, go have your fun.

It was really great. Anyway, somebody was, somebody was drunk. Somebody was passed out on this bench and I was like, y'all was like, oh, that's so sweet. And everybody was like, no, I like step back, step back. And I looked down and it's just this flood of vomit. I was like, oh, okay. I go this way.

But it was super fun. And then when I got done, I kind of got through as many people as I could meet. And then I was like, I gotta get back into the back. I literally walk in and I see Heather and I was like, we should go. And Heather was like, yes, we're all, and everybody was sort of leaving at that time. So I like went out and literally as we walked out the door,

this car pulled up and I was like, oh, we should get an Uber. And she goes, this is our Uber. And I was like, oh, I got into the Uber. And she goes, this is our Uber. And I was like, oh, I got into the Uber. It was like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I got into the Uber and the next thing I remember, I'm eating a hamburger in my bed. Like I have no conscious memory of how I got to the hotel.

Getting to the hotel, I just woke up and I was like, oh, hamburger. And then you're like passed out. That was it. Dunzo for bonzo. I remember getting back to the hotel and then I remember it was like, wasn't that cool? It's Daria. And she just seemed to think it was that cool.

And like, I just fell asleep. It was alright. Yeah, I just fell asleep. It's like whatever. It was like one of those nights. It felt so weird how normal it felt. Does that make sense? Like there was nothing, it just felt like so easy. Like even backstage, like yeah, there were nerves,

but like as soon as we got on, although it's funny because like not a regular episode of Dignation, you know what I mean? Like we were just like, cause it was so excited because we had you guys announcing the whole dig.com revitalization. Hello, hi, good to see you. Hey, hey.

Justin's hanging out. And then also we had all these guests because we were there with, and our buds were there. So it was like, oh, we can have these guests. And it was really funny because one of the stories we're going to talk about is actually a sort of follow on for a story we were gonna potentially talk about. I mean, I feel so bad for Tim

when we were gonna announce his game. Oh, I know. And we were just about to wrap up with Tim. We were like, anyway, you got anything else going on? Oh, cool, this whole thing. I know. So bad. It was a shit show, but thank you for coming out.

It was a great show that was a shit show. Yes. Are we going to talk about it, Justin, in any of the dig stuff that we wanted to talk about or no? Uh, what dig stuff do you want to talk about? Like the secret, like little private thing? The secret stuff? Yeah, I mean, yeah, why don't you need to talk about it?

Can I talk about that for a sec? Absolutely. Yeah, so I will say. Because before, the last time we recorded. You don't even know how to do the button. Dude, I just stalked you guys on Slack. recorded you don't even know I did about my dude I'm I just stalking you guys on on fuck back. That's it. You should come and handle office more often. Yeah Are you gonna say the thing about the secret things?

Okay, so basically One of the things that you know, we're kind of marching towards this release this like big reboot It is a lot of effort as you can imagine I am and we're in the trenches and things are going quite well. But one of the things that I think is going to be a really fun thing for people is we're having these fantastic debates and kind of hashing out features and talking about functionality and talking about how we're going to be different and what are the things and components that we want to keep from the past? Or like, what do we want to evolve going forward?

And there's like these, a lot of amazing kind of just like insider baseball, but also if you're a fan and you want to watch this stuff and see how a startup actually gets off the ground, you probably would want to be there and see that happen. So we came up with this idea where what we're going to do is we're going to make a, like an early access. What were we calling that?

Those? Groundbreakers. Groundbreakers. So it's like the groundbreakers like tied to kind of like the dig theme. And so the idea is that if you sign up to be one of these groundbreakers, which anyone can do on the site when it goes live.

And if it's not live by the time you go to dig.com right now it will be soon. Just put your email in there and we'll send an email out to you and let you know when it goes live. But if you sign up, what'll happen is you'll get to pick your dig username early. Early. And then you will get one of these ground breaker badges

like forever like cemented into your profile. And then also, and we're gonna, if you were at the live DIG Nation, we're gonna send you these, don't worry about you're gonna get an invite to this regardless. You don't have to go do all this stuff. We have your email addresses. Yeah! But you'll get-

Do I get to be groundbreaking? Yeah, you'll be a groundbreaking. We'll say slash Alex for you. Oh, yeah. I mean, if that's what you want, you don't have to take that either. Jesus Christ, how many cocktails- These are all mine.

These are actually mine. I actually have a four-way straw I'm about to put into all of these to get sighted and all out. I literally did not even notice any those lined up and then I also did like bartender Justin has appeared To be fair, this is this is kind of Kevin's ammo refills That is better not be It's not a Dignation round live Dignation round two

But so anyway to finish up this thought yeah The other thing we're gonna do is we're gonna have this little tiny secret private community where we're gonna show you all of the features as we're kind of developing them. So you get to see like early screenshots, debate and talk about the functionality with us, what you'd like to see, all of that stuff. And we'll do kind of like weekly, at least once,

probably twice a week updates of what's going on. So you get to see it as it's built. And it'll be just a few weeks of this before everything goes out and goes live. But you'll get to see all this. So the question is, we were thinking about how do we do this in a way that is a slightly walled garden so it's not just everyone causing a ruckus.

Everyone would want it, so you gotta figure out how can we limit it. Well, we figured it out. So I think what we're gonna do is we're gonna figure out the price point. And the cool thing about it is 100% of proceeds is gonna go to, I think we're gonna do the Internet Archive Foundation. That is the latest thing.

Which is a nonprofit, which helps back up the internet and save all the web pages. So this is not about us trying to make money. We can't be a for-profit business, because that makes sense too. I mean, you are a for-profit business. Right, but the point being is that it's not a way to say, hey, we want to just do a cash grab

to grab an early user name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, so that's all gonna go to the internet archive as a donation, and then that will get you access. It's not a recurring monthly thing. It's gonna be like maybe like three or four bucks or something, whatever it is, one-time fee. And so there's no like, oh, I gotta cancel this later

or any of that bullshit. That's just not who we are. And we'll do that. And then you'll get in and get to sell the inside baseball and chat with us and talk to us about this stuff. So. I mean, I will say just even being like the stealthy Slack guy and seeing some of the like

under the design stuff where it's like, oh, let's try this. Let's try that. Let's try this. And I'm like, ooh, that looks sexy. Like this is gonna be so cool. I mean, you just saw some of the default in Avatar stuff today, which is gonna be dope. Well, and I think part of it really is a positioning of like trying to make digs something

that really is community built. Like, it's like we, you know, there's this idea of like, we have obviously very strong opinions about what the future of social should look like, but at the same time, it's like, if that was just us going into a cave and just hacking our own way and then be like, and this is what the future of all should look like, but at the same time, it's like, if that was just us going into a cave and just hacking our own way and then be like, and this is what the future of all social should be,

like that feels disingenuous. And so I think that this is kind of an opportunity to show a different way to build in public with people who can, like, these are the people we're listening to. This is what we're trying to do when we're building actual real community. And so I think it's a cool opportunity for us

to get that input and get that feedback, but it's also a really cool opportunity, I think, for other people to understand, like the hot dog is messy, it's not perfect, and it sometimes looks really ugly, and you'll see ugly designs in there, and that sounds fun. I want the the hot dog is messy dick.com shirt.

Just like a big slappy. Got a lot of merch potential over this company. Speaking of merch, holy crap, we have not had as good a quality of merch in the history of our show. Did you design that or did you? There was so much good merch. It was a collaborative effort. I did some of it. Emily, one of our contractors who works with us is awesome. She did all the posters and the branding

and the bobbleheads. She really did the lion's share of the work and it was tremendous. I still have my bobblehead. It's hysterical. I love- I never got one of myself. You didn't get one of yourself?

No, I didn't. I didn't. I'm sure it's in the box over here probably. Yeah, there might be some stuff over there. That says Kevin. Does it? No, it doesn't. We sold a lot of bobbleheads, which is great. Did we actually sell over here probably. Yeah, there might be some stuff over there. That says Kevin. Does it? No, it doesn't. We sold a lot of bobbleheads, which is great.

Did we actually sell bobbleheads? Yeah, we did. I sold one more than you did. Fuck off. I'm dead serious. No, I don't believe that. I think it was my sister or somebody that was like, I just want one of Kevin. Yeah, my wife just stole one, so there you go.

Did she really? It would have evened out. Yeah, I think so. I think she just yorked one that we had. This talks less than Alex does. Alright, let's get into... I was just going to say, people go to dig.com, put in your email address if you don't see the way to sign up there. That's it. Oh yeah, do we set up the...

Dignation at dig.com. Gravy, okay cool. When we first started doing the show reboot, we were just trying to do, I don't even remember what the email was, we had the email for like five seconds. It was great, we got to connect to some cool people. But now that the cat is out of the dig bag, you have released the cat, we can say that we have set up dignation at dig.com, so if you want to communicate

with the show, if you want to just say hi, if you have any stories you want us to maybe talk about on the show, like we're open for everything. Advice? Advice? Everything? Everything. We had some weird questions come in.

But that's the best. Yeah, those are the best. Those are the best. Yeah, if you've got weird questions in our way. Oh, my, it's my favorite. It's my favorite. Okay. Are you drinking one of those, or the literally, you drink that? I'm waiting for you to finish that one

to like quickly do kind of one of those NASCAR tire changes and like just kind of like go under. Do the uh, what? It would have significantly less cupping, I don't know why I did that. Like, you know, you can do a lot of cupping. I didn't like that. That's a weird NASCAR position.

It's like, what do you do in the pit? Oh, I hold the guy's penis out of the way so they can film your car. Oh, okay. Somebody's gotta do it. Why, I don't watch NASCAR, I guess. How's everything going, Jim? Good, good, thanks. It's amazing.

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You should. Why wouldn't I, as it were? All right, shall we get into the first story? Let's do it. Skyrise unveils cockpit design for fly-by-wire R66. R66. R66 is a Robinson helicopter. So, I have talked ad nauseum at this point about my dips into general aviation.

Right. You got your pilot's license back in the day. I almost got my pilot's license back in the day. Oh, I think that is. No, I have my student pilot's license. That kinda counts. Basically, I got that is. No, I have my student pilot's license. That kind of counts. Yeah. Basically, I got to the point where I was like, this is...

Long story, semi-long, because this is what we're here for. I am always looking at aviation videos on YouTube, general aviation, people that buy planes. I thought about buying a plane the last time a couple years ago where I went back to get my pilot's license. You drink too much. I drink so much. No, but like, planes are fun.

I know, but you don't want to be hungover. Like, you're like, where's the knob? Oh, I've definitely done that. Have you? Oh, fuck yeah. Are you kidding me? You have a lesson. You wake up, you're like, fuck, I got to be at the airport at eight.

What? Yeah. You did some solo stuff though, too, right? Did a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I flew myself all over. So you flew solo, like hungover? Not solo hungover.

I don't think I would have done that. Okay. But I also don't recall. Anyway, but so I started going, fuck, there's something about the ability to go to a place, get the keys of a plane, get in a plane and be like, I wanna go to Palm Springs. And it's Friday and it's four o'clock

and it's gonna take five fucking hours. But it won't in a plane, it won't in a plane, it won't in a helicopter. So I started looking into helicopters. That was my new thing. That shit is the worst. Nope, but well, because, hey, hey. Most dangerous, Coby, rest in peace.

Sure, sure, sure, RIP. Lots of information about that. He wasn't flying the plane, it was like fucking. It was a helicopter, but yeah. No, I'm sorry, a helicopter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was, when that happened, I immediately. Where's my motherfucking pit stop, by the way?

Yeah, this man needs to be cupped. And, and. Oh look at the little top where he's doing. Ah. Fucking the dig.com treatment. Yeah, the dot com stands for put it on top. You're on fire today. Bro, it's been so long. I was like, I gotta talk about stuff

and I'm talking about death and aviation. It's great. Anyway, so I started getting down the road of like, oh, I'm gonna do this, maybe a helicopter. The first thing I did, my little sister, for my birthday, cheers, keep the party rolling. This is a Spritz, by the way, a little alcohol. Red wine, anyway.

Uh. So, he just gave me alcohol. Red wine for everyone that wants to know. Red drink. So the first actual lesson that I took in a general aviation aircraft was a helicopter. I flew a Robinson R22. What are you doing? I got water all over my shit.

So much. Hold on. And I really loved it. It's a lot. it's a lot. It's a lot. Like you are- Yeah, you gotta do pedals and shit. I mean, you do in a plane too.

But more than that, you're constantly fighting it. But then I was like, well, one of the things I didn't really love about the plane was once you're pointed towards Santa Barbara, you just kind of have nothing to do. I mean, you're monitoring comms, but it's like, unless they ask you something, you're looking for planes,

but like that's not that interesting anyway So I was like oh, maybe I get a helicopter because also you can fly places in like land Mm-hmm like you just be like oh that looks like a cool field. Let's land and have it. Yeah Like literally like I'll just fucking land there. Yeah, okay So the YouTube algorithm knows me very well, and it presented me with a video on this startup called Skyrise. Nothing like a stun up helicopter to get you excited. Bro, my mind. I went so deep down this thing because here's the deal.

It's a Robinson R66. Rolls Royce motor. Yeah, it's a great, great helicopter. Yeah, it's good. The whole thing is, they have changed the entire way that you fly a helicopter. Yeah. So helicopters have collectives, elevators, pedals, right? Like this makes you go, I mean, it's very rudimentary. This makes you go up and down,

this makes you go roundy roundy, this makes you point your nose, right? Too much to think about. Lots of shit going on in a helicopter. So the CEO, founder of this company, I think it's nine years ago, started the company where he basically was like, A, why don't we have flying cars?

Right. And he was like, we don't have flying cars because people are not flying in general aviation. Like flying cars would sit in general aviation. There's been a big decrease in the number of people in the United States and all over the world getting their private pilot's license, private helicopter license.

Because people are like saying exactly what Kevin's saying, shit's fucking scary. So the two big thing knocks, people are afraid of it because it's not safe. I mean it is safe but it's- Except for that Delta plane that flipped over a few weeks ago. You know, all that stuff. We can talk about that offline. I've got a lot safe, but it's... Except for that Delta plane that flipped over a few weeks ago. Yeah, I mean, you know, all that stuff. We can talk about that offline.

I've got a lot of information about it. I mean, from the internet. Anyway, and it's expensive, right? So this guy was like, he's a helicopter pilot. He was like, how can we figure out how to make it better? Well, why is the general aviation world less safe than the commercial world? Because the commercial world is all fly-by-wire.

The commercial world is computer-assisted. But you can find people that don't know fly-by-wire. So essentially the way that you gotta think about it is like. Where's the wire? Yeah, so the wire is computers, but realistically when you pull, when you pull a lever in an airplane, when you go push the

gas, there's a physical connection to a throttle on the engine. It's a wire that you push, and it literally physically changes that. Whatever you physically do, the plane is going to do because it's dumb. It's just a mechanism. Fly-by-wire came in, basically what they said was, well rather than it being a physical connection to a valve or a knob on the engine, a sprocket, we're gonna put a computer between

the input that is given and the input that is received on the engine. And what that allows you to do is to do a lot of safety stuff because you could say, I'm going to put this into a over 50% bank or 50 degree bank at 100 knots or 10 knots. And the computer's like, hey, that's not cool. And the plane would go, we don't give a shit and it would crash, but a computer would go,

that is outside of the normal operating envelope of this plane, so we're not gonna allow you to do it. We understand what you're trying to do is go right, but you're gonna crash. So we're gonna take you right, we're gonna do what we think you're saying. So what Skyrise did was they basically took

the helicopter and said, what can a computer do? Everything. That can help make this experience different. And they literally got it down to a touch screen and a single joystick. Yeah. There are no pedals.

I watched the video, it's amazing. Bro, it fucking blew my mind. And I was like, I don't understand how this is even possible. So then I watched the keynote speech that the CEO gave at Upsummit, an aviation summit convention, and it was like, dude, this guy is speaking my fucking language.

He's like the only reason why- It's basically drone tech. Like you don't need to know anything. Like drones, when you fly a drone, it's like up, down, rotate, rotate. 100%. And that's just a single throttle and like you're good to go yeah but the thing is is that it can do autonomous autorotation so autorotation is one of the scariest things basically engine fails yeah so when a plane engine fails a plane glides right it wants to fly it needs thrust but it wants to fly

so you have a lot of time in a plane to go, where should I, see if I can turn the engine back on. Helicopters fall out of the sky. But people don't know that's actually recoverable if you know what you're doing. 100%, because if you get enough speed. I watched a video on this. People watch a video on a guy that he cut all,

this is a traditional helicopter. He cut everything. It was like, hey, I'm up like, I don't know how many feet. It was like, let's call it 5,000 feet or whatever. And he's like, okay, cuts everything and then basically loops it around in a way that creates like the spin again and like gets it to land with zero engines.

Yeah, because the whole thing is, is like the blades are spinning and that is causing thrust. So all you need to make sure is, the blades are spinning, and that is causing thrust, so all you need to make sure is that the blades are spinning. If you're falling and you correctly orient the blade levels, it causes lift. It's not enough to keep it flying, but it's enough to slow it down at a certain rate,

and it's really crazy, like, it's fucking super difficult, but when you see it happen, it's really cool. They come down, well first off, anybody that has a helicopter pilot's license can do it. But then why does everyone die? Well, that's a deeper story. Well, first off, that's the one thing that came out with this guy had said.

I keep getting water. This is my brand new M4. Have you? It's an M4. This is an M4? Yeah, it's an M4. That's an M4? Yeah, brand new blue.

It's blue, actually. That's not blue. That is blue. That's not blue. Hold it up to your gray. Look at this shit. You're fucking. First off, nobody has been more excited about being blue.

That is blue. I mean, I'll give you blue gray. I'll give you blue gray. Okay, keep going. So, okay. I just got super excited. So 70%. I was just wondering, he's hammering now.

Look at him. He's handing out drinks. Oh, you should be concerned because I have this many and I'm not hammered, which, that's concern. He just made it weird for you. Anyway, so, anyway, all of this is to say, I love that this company is looking at the general aviation decline and trying to solve it

in a way, because for me, I go, I have so many fucking questions. One, I want to fly one of these things. Two, do you have to have this, does the FAA require the same amount of license? I looked it up, they don't. So you don't have to go to a traditional helicopter license. You still have to get a helicopter license, but you can be trained just for this specific model,

and it was way less hours. So you do your test in that? Oh my God, people. Yes. It's still a very expensive plane. 1.5 million. Yeah, I think it's 1.8. Okay.

I mean, I'll say 1.5. Yeah, yeah. It's a good deal. Dignation, go Dignation, check out. Hashtag Dignation. 25% off your next helicopter purchase. We sell 10, we get one free. We sell 10.

That would be amazing. We sell one. Bro, I would, I mean, I don't have enough money to do that, but I'd be close to purchasing. I just love this idea because like, I met this other guy that was doing a startup. You could rent one. I don't think so.

Well, I mean, they do that a lot. I mean, at a certain point that would probably happen. If you got certified and get your license on this, I bet you could rent one of these and just take it out. For sure. Oh my God, for sure. I would love to learn on that. So you know the Cirrus Jet, right? Yeah, yeah. Cirrus Jet is like this.

No, no, no, you still have to get all the... I was like, now they have a throttle, they have pedals. You still have to get certified in terms of like, you know, what do they call it, instrument rated certification. But the cool... Well, you don't need an instrument rating as an add-on so that you can fly in clouds. Right.

But you need your private pilot's license to fly a Cirrus. But on the Cirrus jet, the cool thing about it is two things. One, if someone has a heart attack and dies. Oh yeah, the- There's a button. Straighten level. It'll auto-lands.

Yep, yep. It'll auto-lands now. Oh! Yeah, they added that. Oh yeah. So it'll auto-land at the airport without anyone touching it. And then two, actually I have a buddy of my buddy Chris, Chris Hutchins, his buddy had one and freaking,

it wasn't a jet, but he was the normal Cirrus, and he used the parachute. It saved his life. We talked about the parachute on a Cirrus jet, like dig naked nation, dig naked, dig nation. That's our only fantasy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whoa. Yeah, DigNaked, DigNation. That's our only fan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whoa. It's like, yeah.

That's a partnership with my feed. That's how we fund the site development. Like DigNation, like episode 74, like 112, which if it's either of those two, I'm fucking psychic. It's not. But we talked about the series. I was gonna say, did you really reman that shit out of nowhere? 70s, episode 72, it definitely matters.

Yeah, it may have been in 412. But I love this idea because I really do feel like the complexity of the planes that are in general are aviation are the problem. Because more people would... oh, thanks for the float. Oh, Jesus. That's the dig float. I'm just saying it's probably a little sweeter than... I'm on vacation. It is my kids. They're on a... I don't think you get to be on vacation if your kids are on vacation.

Well, it's kind of. Oh, is it like spring break? Spring break. Is it spring break? Yeah, it's spring break. Anyway, long story short, if you're in the market for a helicopter and you're looking to make it easier, sky rise. I was feeling...

I mean, I love that you said it like that because you said it like an ad at the end, you should check out Skyrise. Skyrise. And like it was like, shh, exactly. It was like you're waiting for that email to come in at dignation at dig.com where it's like, hey we're from Skyrise, we'd like to take Alex on a fucking tour.

I'd be like, wait really? Exactly. I wouldn't be allowed to go. Dude, I'm totally filming you. Yeah, you wanna do it. I know. You should do it. You should do it. I would love, I mean, I can't just make it happen., I'm totally filming it. You can't. You want to do it. I know. You should do it. I would love.

I mean, I can't just make it happen. Remember when you were on that fucking jet, I wouldn't go with you? Blue Angels. The Blue Angels invited us out to go on their freaking F-16s. And they were like, do you want to like do like Mach 3 and you might pass out or some shit? And I'm like, no. And I was like, yes, please.

And you did it. I fucking loved it. It was awesome. Oh, so much fun. Ah, no. And I was like, yes please. And you did it. Fucking loved it, it was awesome. It was great. Oh, it was so much fun. Ah, fuck, were you a little scared? No, no. Remember when Danica drove us around? That was the fucking bomb.

That was scary. We were up, I don't know why we were there, it was a sponsor thing, right? I think, like, I can't remember who sponsored, oh, it was GoDaddy, she was driving for GoDaddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she took us around in a fucking Honda Civic hybrid like I know middle of the road car and she was in fucking flip-flops and she's like this big and she's like hey it's nice to meet you and we're like oh my god this is so cool

she's like yeah hop in and holy shit my ass sphincter just went stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. And she was like this one's blind and it would literally like you couldn't even see the road it would just go up. And she would automatically know exactly. Oh, she had the shit on me. And we were screaming. It was so great. I almost. You were screaming too a little bit. I was excited. Well also she was very nice. In terms of like she was very friendly to us and took care of us. I agree. I totally agree. Back in the day, this was a long time ago, it was before I was married. Clarification.

Clarification. Peace peace peace. Peace peace peace. Sorry I don't want you to see this. Peace peace peace. Okay. Ah! Okay.

Next story. Next story. Okay, this is a really interesting thing that I did today. Which is what? Let's just say to prep, Kevin told me to open up my chat GPT program. Which you had to log in there. What program? It's a fucking browser.

It's my chat GPT program, I'll stand by it, Tron. My CCP program, whatever. I think that was RoboCop. Anyway, all this is to say, I'll stand by it, Tron. My CCP program, whatever. I think that was RoboCop. Anyway, all this is to say, I signed in, and I had to paste in a prompt. And then I had to let it generate, and I have not seen the results. So Kevin, what was the prompt?

Where did you get this idea? How are we talking? Who told us about this? Was this Alexis that told us about this? Well I saw Alexis do it earlier today. Earlier today? What the fuck? That's so weird, I saw Alexis do it earlier today. Earlier today? Yeah. What the fuck? That's so weird.

I didn't even talk to him about it. All right. Maybe he did tell me about it. I don't remember. I don't remember. But I will say that like somehow in my memory, probably around Dignation when I was hammered, so it was probably Alexis, said, hey, go to ChatGBT, because at this point in time, it has, let's just call it, depending on when you adopted

it, either a year, a year and a half, or two years, of history of who you are. And they know all of your searches and what you've done. So they never asked you for your home address, they never asked you for like- Is he gonna tell me my home address? No, no, no, but here's the thing. Jesus, delete me. Delete me.

Delete me. Exactly. But what... Sponsor tie-in. But what are the things I... So I came up with this prompt of my own, where I said, this is the prompt, and we'll put it in the show notes,

so head over to Dignation.show. Slash notes. Slash notes. Anyway. Not slash notes. So, this is the prompt. Who do you think I am, question mark. Guess all the things about me.

Age, race, gender, location, hobbies, favorite foods, likes slash dislikes. And I put this in on my own. What type of women I'd be into, just because I'm married, but I just want to see what it would be like to think down the front. Darian, watch this.

You want to think about it and be like, I'm a boob man myself. Watch out, we're going to see what this is for you. Favorite types of music, vehicles, etc. Give me a long list of 100 plus guesses. Maximum two sentences per point. Okay. Okay, this is the first time you're looking at your results.

This is it. I want you to skim this and do this in real time and see what it came out to. All right, let's go full Sherlock mode. Number one, you're 47 years old. I'm 48. Okay. So that's fucking creepy. You've mentioned it before.

Okay. By the way, that was probably a year ago when I was like, I'm 47. It matches your energy. Experience, but still driven. All right, Chachupti, I'm going to buy you a beer. Number two. You're a man.

Confident, direct. I love that we're having a conversation with Amazons. Is that Amazon? No, I thought I heard. She jumped in. Yeah, yeah, yeah Is that Amazon? Yeah, it's on. No, I heard, I thought I heard- She jumped in. She jumped in, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did she really jump in or something? You're a man, confident, direct, and into building things,

like a film company. Or your body. Classic masculine energy. Wow. Thank you, ChetGBT. Okay. You're based in Los Angeles. We've got to have her name, so we've got to get out of the mood.

Oh, God, you're based in Los Angeles. You're white. You've referenced it. You're white. Total guess. Based on your name, preferences, and cultural references, amazing. You're into filmmaking.

Okay, that's good because I've been launching a film company. You lift weights regularly. Number seven's amazing. You lift weights regularly. Number seven. You can't, hey, oppa. All right, so.

Oppa, good evening, everybody. You know who I who was cut off the CEO, he needs to leave. Well, you just the drink like it's like I have a drink. You know, somebody ran by really quickly out of the phrase. See, that bar is not fly by water. Exactly. These glasses shouldn't be so tall. You're really shouldn't get so tall. All right. False. You're into tech, but not obsessed with it you're a night owl is that true I am I you like steak number 18

I mean, maybe medium rare paired with whiskey or a good red. Holy fuck. Look at number 19. You're a whiskey guy I am a whiskey guy you dislike pretension you want authentic authenticity and people not showmanship Is that true? I think that's true. I'm just saying all of these seem real idealistic for a guy around your age with your certain demographic. All these things are like the best ideal. It's a Greatest Hits album. It is a Great Hits album.

It is, it is. Well, hold on. I'm a Star Trek fan. I mean, that's... There is some things in here that, wait, are you a Star Trek fan or no? I am, yeah. Okay.

Hold on, this one's interesting though. You love a strong female lead in films. I mean, I'm not against it. Oh, that's an indictment. But I mean, like, I don't... I mean, I do... I do. I mean, but I also like a strong male lead in films.

Like, I like aliens. I like Die Hard. I like Prey I like die hard. I like Prey, Dan's movie Prey was fucking amazing. Amber Midsunder fucking killed it. Okay, okay. You're into deep conversations. Yeah.

Javolundo writing, okay you enjoy history. You like vinyl records? You don't like vinyl records. I don't like vinyl records. I don't care about vinyl records. It's not that I don't like them. If somebody has a vinyl record I'm like, that sounds fun. But like I'm not gonna go out of my way to be like,

is that vinyl or record? You're saying most of this list is just dude-isms. It's like, if you're a man of repute, here are the things. Okay, well let's get into the lady stuff, so scroll. Lady stuff? This is gonna tell you about- I'm a man. You like a solid handshake.

Oh my God. I don't care. Yours is way more masculine than mine. Mine's like your little bitch. Yours is like a zero to five. Mine's like, you're a little bitch. Yours is like, is your little bitch. Mine's like, you're a strong son of a bitch. Each creatine eats a steak, whiskey wants a handshake, hates liars. Wants a good hand job. Yeah. Yours is like- You're into martial arts or have considered it. Definitely true. You like the Mandalorian.

More than most Star Wars. Oh, you lost me there buddy. I do love The Mandalorian, but I mean, Star Wars is my thing. You had a mentor you deeply respect, maybe a professor. Can we go back to the Star Wars? Oh, we got a hardcore Star Wars fan. Oh, bring it. Instead of The Mandalorian, what is your favorite? Like, it could be any movie, any show.

So, I think that it's really hard because the original New Hope 4 was such, like, I mean, like, it just was imprinted on my soul at like five or six, you know what I mean? So it's really hard to be like anything other than New Hope. I think of the, oh man, I love so much about so many things in it. Empire may be my favorite of the movies.

That's the correct answer. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's stuff in Jedi that I fucking love. There's, you know what I mean? Like, I don't really care for the prequels. I understand what they're doing and there's some really rad shit in there. I'm not a big fan of the JJ stuff.

It's good, I like some of the visuals. Like if I could just watch it without a story, I'd be like, fucking hell, those are like, this is amazing, this is, you know? Jedi's doing Jedi's things. Like one of the things in the prequels that I fucking was like, why the fuck, was I was always like, you have a fucking lightsaber. Why are you trying to open doors?

Any door is openable. Just go blank. I mean, it's like a fucking plasma torch. And in the prequels, one of the first things they do is they start melting that blast door. And I was like, thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Did you like Rogue One? I loved Rogue One. I liked Rogue One a lot. When I first saw it, I mean we were going to the frickin' Andor premiere. I know, I'm so excited, very excited. And Andor was like, great. Andor has some of the best Star Wars moments because it's not about Luke Skywalker, it's not about Darth Vader, it's this like, it's just people doing stuff in the world.

It's not about Jedis. And when it is kind of could be maybe about Jedis, it's in this way that's very like zen. It's really good shit. Anyway, back to this guy knowing me. By the way, that's Ethan who's helping on Dig Design stuff, which is awesome. And also good that you're a Star Wars fan.

And a huge Star Wars fan. Okay, so here's some of mine. Okay, it knows that I'm male. It's called me mid to late 30s, which I appreciate. It's guessing 36 to 39. That's a vanity play. It says I'm either mixed race or ethnically ambiguous. Okay.

It's not doing well so far. No, but raising in the United States, okay, fine. Let's see here. Lives in and around LA, heterosexual, don't know how it knows that, but whatever. I think you asked it that one time, like, am I gay? I can't, I'm sorry, I couldn't, I can't, I didn't even know that came out.

It's amazing, gotta leave that in, that's kinda amazing. You'd be surprised at what it told me. even if that came out. That's amazing. Gotta leave that in, that's kind of embarrassing. You'd be surprised at what it told me. Okay. Oh God. The things that were really interesting, there was a few things here. This is a good one.

That were kind of like eerie, and then I was like, how does it know this about me? It's like, you like sleek minimalism. Which I was like- Mine said I like sleek minimalism. Your wardrobe leads neutral and sharp. Blacks, grays, and earth tones. Which I wear a lot of blacks, that makes sense.

Yeah, and earth. It says you like dim lighting. Fucking, I love dim lighting, dude. Really? Yeah, I love dim lighting. You have an opinion on lighting. Oh my God, like when you walk walk in I get all those like vintage LED bulbs. Vintage LED bulbs? You know the ones that are like the ones that like to give you that like glow

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I love dim lighting. Like 3200 Kelvin. How does it know that? This this is feeling now like horoscope This is feeling now like horoscope. Yeah. They're so general. It's like everyone. I feel like if I typed in, I'm a Leo, what's my month gonna be like? I would get results that were like, oh, all right.

And it's the general things. It's like, you'll find an old acquaintance this year. And it's like, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah, it says, I think this is all, I mean, it's all. Relationships and women. Yeah, I mean, it's likely to prefer someone spiritual, emotionally intelligent, introspective.

All right, anyway, it's fun, it's fun. I would recommend everyone go put this prompt in and figure out what it says about you. I mean, look, I think Mao hit it on the head, which is I also interact so differently with ChatGBT. Like, I do not interact with it on a daily, weekly, if not even monthly basis. I have an interesting thing.

So I process a lot of my journal entries through GPT. And I thought, oh man, it's going to know everything about me. I do it through a custom GPT. So just so you know, it looks like custom GPTs do not get included into this history search. OK, that's good to know. I don't do a lot of looks like custom GPTs do not get included into this history search. Oh, interesting. Okay, that's good to know.

I don't do a lot of things in custom GPTs, so it's like I got all of my combined GPTs. Claude will not do this, and nor will Gemini. Oh, interesting. Because they keep them siloed individual conversations, and they don't weave them all together. So it's a privacy thing. So they're not trying to learn how to better interact with Kevin. Right. By understanding the interactions that have come previous.

I asked it and it was like, we do not break those barriers. Each individual chat is its own individual kind of like silo of information. So that was fascinating. That's interesting. All right. Speaking of fascinating and interesting, you know what, Kevin? What's that? People need to stay hydrated more.

I agree. I've been told this by my trainer because I was charley-horsing all the time. I mean, Chachi BT got me pegged. I am in the gym all the time. About three days a week, but enough. But I seriously, I was having char having Charlie Horses at the gym, like literally while working out, and I was like, fuck, and he was like, you're having another Charlie Horses?

Yeah, and he was like, well, are you taking electrolytes? And I was like, what? No, why would I do that? And he was like, that's what you need. Right. Well, the best version of electrolytes that I found was Element, L, M, N, T, and thankfully, they're actually sponsoring the show,

which is great. Heather and I buy copious amounts of the Element. Orange is our favorite flavor. I'm sure there are others that are fantastic, but orange is our favorite flavor. It's a zero sugar electrolyte drink mix. Not only does it have a thousand milligrams of electrolytes, but it also has 200 milligrams

of potassium, you know, what they say when you have a Charlie horse, eat a, but it also has 200 milligrams of potassium. You know, what they say when you have a charlie horse, eat a banana because it's got potassium. So boom, you don't have to eat a banana, you can drink something that maybe tastes like banana. Do they have a banana flavor? They don't. Okay.

I just got the grapefruit I just ordered off Amazon. Oh, how is it? Oh, grapefruit. I haven't tried it yet. That'll be good. Look, Element, they've partnered with a bunch of high-end fitness stuff. They partnered with team USA Olympic Lifting.

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But honestly, it's like, it's the best. And we all need to be drinking more water. And why wouldn't we wanna be drinking water that's got stuff in it? People don't see this here, but like, and this is not, we don't have to keep going on this ad because we've, obviously it's an advertisement, but like, I fill this thing up with element,

and I put in five grams of creatine in it, and a bunch of ice, and 32 ounces of water, and it's great. It's great. It's my daily thing. And then, boom, you're ready to go. No sugar spikes, no weird shit, it's awesome. I'm really stoked as you are to have them as a sponsor.

That's great, I mean that's the cool thing about getting to pick your sponsors. Yeah, and a lot of these sponsors, you're just like, yeah, use that service, let's do it. Yeah, you know, drink that water, let's do it. You know what I mean? So it's great.

Anyway, so thank you Element. Get your free sample pack and try it out for yourself. All right, next story. Yes. Multiple publishers are ready to delay their games to avoid GTA 6's onslaught, it is claimed. First off, it's crazy to me that we are getting a new GTA game, and the last game came out in 2013. 2013! I know, it's been a minute.

Like I was playing Vice City when I was in college. You know what I mean? This is crazy. So essentially what is happening is, is that there are a lot of triple A publishers that are basically going, we are going to be out, like just give it away. I mean, this happens a lot in movies, you know, with movie studios are the new like, you know,

Mission Impossible movie or Avatar movie is gonna drop and they'll move their other movies around so they're not overshadowed. But the crazy thing is- They know it's a budget issue, right? This game is estimated to bring in, in the first year alone, $3.2 billion in revenue. $3.2 billion in revenue for one game.

I mean, they were saying it's gonna do like 1.6 billion. Nobody, it's not, nobody's. So it's not even like not in beta. Nope. They haven't even given an update, I think in the better part of like six months. Oh really? Yeah, they showed a few screenshots and some engine running,

but they, since then, it's been quiet. Yeah, the trailer came out like six months ago, maybe, or even longer, and everybody was just like, give it to me in my hole, cause that's the, GTA has always been that sort of like joke. It got to that thing, it's almost like Half-Life 2, right? Like, or Half-Life 3, which, no, it's never gonna come. But it's where's that thing, it's like,

they're not gonna, they're never gonna ship it, it's never gonna be done, it's never gonna be ready. But it's gonna make some big waves when it drops. What was the last GTA you played? I mean, a few ago. It was probably when I got the PlayStation 4, whatever GTA was available then. I'm guessing it was GTA 4.

It was probably. Yeah, well, I think 2013, because I remember when it was either, I think it was GTA 4 that dropped while we were hosting the screensavers. Yeah, it would have been the one that was set in like New York, and think it was GTA IV that dropped while we were hosting the screensavers. Remember? It would have been the one that was set in like New York. And then there was one after that that was Los Angeles.

That was the last one. Yeah, that was fine. And then now this one is Miami. Miami, okay. Oh my God, dude. Vice City, I remember playing that. That was really the first one that I ever played. And it really changed my mind as to like,

what it meant to be playing a video game, you know what I mean? Like it really felt like you were just living in this world. Like it's going to be crazy. Did you actually play it as a game or did you just do like the run around and just kill everyone kind of situation? I always played it as a game.

Cause I was the one that was like, I don't wanna finish this. I just wanna like go and like just like steal people's shit and like rob things and I get arrested. So that's one of the things that I think is, is really interesting. Cause I'm playing,

Baldur's Gate three. I played it when it came out. It's fucking brilliant game. I mean, it was game of the year all over the place in 2024. But I was playing it in, when it first got released and played probably like 120 hours, got to Act 2 and kind of just, it just kind of petered out, something else popped up, maybe it was like a WoW expansion or something like that.

But I went back to it with my buddy and I've put like 220 hours into that game. Holy shit. And it is so amazing. I don't understand how a game... So we played it all the way up till a little bit into Act 2, and we started over,

because we were like, well let's just start over. It was almost a completely different gaming experience. Why is that? So many different things happened, and we were like, what the fuck? We never did this. It's the closest game to Dungeons dragons the game talking that's ever been created So every branching path and narrative is completely unique

Oh, and it has surprised us so many times and that I think is where you get to How do you even make a game like that? Like it's just so Enormous and then you look at something like what GTA 6 is gonna be, it is going to be a monster of a game. I mean they've been working on it for so, so long and it's just gonna be one of those games that's just like, how do you go about experiencing this? But so one of the biggest issues that I've had

with a lot of like MMO games or big like open world games is I always feel like I wanna do the thing. I wanna, someone to give me a task, I go finish the task. Like that's how I like to experience my video games. It's really hard when I play, cause I played a lot of Star Wars Galaxies. Which was just, you can do whatever you'd like, go do whatever you'd like.

And thankfully I got into a guild and we had, there were things to do. But it's weird to me because even with like wow, like playing through the story of an expansion I'm like, this is so much fun. I'm having such a great time leveling, doing all this stuff. But then the moment I get max level, I finish the main story, it's like, cool, now you can do delves, dungeons, and raids. I just go, I'm out. Like I'm just bored.

But yet, there are things like GTA, where you can, people live in that world, and they're just like, I just sign on so I can say hi to my friends, and we can go and do cool shit, and all that stuff. It's like, it's just such a weird. I mean, it's the way my kids play Roblox, they just leave it on in the background

so they can see when their friends pop in and say hi. Really? Yo, 100%, they just leave it on their iPads, just sitting there, and they'll be like, oh, I want to see when my friend jumps on what they're playing and then I ended up playing that too and I'm like painting nails and shit. I have two girls, but like I'm fucking great at those.

I always pay for the upgrades. Like the kids don't know, like you can like, there's like this game where like you all paint nails, right? And I'm painting nails and I'm not the best nail painter, but I'm doing okay. I'm like the best nail painter but I'm doing okay I'm like ranking in the top ten. You're doing alright. But they have these paid upgrades and so like you can buy to like destroy all the other nails and shit. You know what I'm talking about? I don't but I understand the context. You can like wipe out all the

little kids by just paying like a couple bucks. I just love that Kevin's sitting there with a cigar and he's like Ha those are nice nails No, but I do. Go cry to your mama. I'm crushing my kids because every once in a while Someone will pay for the upgrade to kill one of my girls. Can you pay for a block? Yeah, you can respawn and kill and stuff like that. I'm like, okay, you killed my girl I'm gonna go and like pay the two dollars and like crush your your soul. By the way. And like crush their nails. By the way, Roblox, like my buddy works. Is that evil? No.

Okay, thank you. I mean, it's not. Not evil. It's not not evil. You're fine. Totally normal to murder children virtually. Just their nails. Just their nails.

Yeah, you're literally ripping the nails out of children. Nothing evil about that, right? There's nothing evil about that. I'm protecting my girl's nails. Roblox is crazy because there are people that make millions of dollars a year because they're like a little guy, like a kid in his basement that makes a game,

puts it out and it gets popular. You have a Roblox account? I do because my friend was like, I met this kid and he makes like $15 million. I was like, fuck. It's so much fun. I got the snake game that I love Hit me up, but it's so basic. They're like really basic games, but they're just fun My Mac is going to go to bed soon if I don't plug it in So boulders gate 3. Yeah, is it better than... What's the other one that's really, really, really hard? Oh yeah, Elder's Ring.

Elder's Ring. Elder's Ring. Is it easier to play than Elder's Ring? Oh dude, it's so much easier. No, no, no. There's like 30 things to do. Try it, try it. I actually think I'm going to have...

Once we're done playing, I'm going to sit down and play and have Heather start playing it. Mm. Because you don't need the video game dexterity because it's isometric, it's click to move, it's turn-based combat. So it's turn-based combat, and you're controlling all four of the people in your party,

so you can choose what to do and how to set people up and all that stuff. And I'm playing with a buddy, so I control two characters, he controls two characters. So it's very strategic and it's not like, Elden Ring, great game. But it's made to be hard. All of the Framsoftball games are like,

they're supposed to be incredibly difficult games. You are supposed to be punished for playing that game. Yeah, I thought I would love that, but I don't like that one that bad hard. I get that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's a bad That's a bad thing. But anyway, I think it's you know, look we'll see it's supposed to come out in the fall 2025

We'll see if it comes out in the fall 2025. I know I gotta get a new computer. This thing is Good scene better days Louis. All right Well, we shall do a Ceremony and play that together when it comes out. Oh my God, that'd be so fun. So fun. Do you like that video? Remember that little like weird meme clip that we did on the screensavers with Doom 3?

Oh, that was a long time ago. Yeah, dude. History. Okay. History. Next story of the day, this one is actually quite fascinating. DeepSeq version 3 now runs at 20 tokens per second on a Mac studio

Okay, so so deep seek is the Alibaba Isn't it Alibaba? I don't know it's Alibaba, but it is it their own company, but they are like the Chinese Yeah, the Chinese opening. I'm more like the Chinese like Facebook open llama kind of model. So it's basically, they just kind of secretly announced, not secretly, but they just put it up on a hugging face, like no big deal. But what they're doing is they're actually really crushing everybody else. Because they have really figured out a couple really key things here.

One of them being that they're like compressing down what it takes to actually be able to compute and run these models. So even though this doesn't sound like a, it sounds like a really confusing title where it's like DeepSeq v3 runs at 20 tokens per second, what that means is that a standard Mac Studio at 20 tokens per second can respond to you

in like full sentences full sentences pretty fast. So when you're on a performant model on say OpenAI, it's about 70 to 90 tokens per second, which creates that seamless response, that quick response time. So this is not even the best Mac, it's a good Mac, but it's 20 tokens per second, and you can run the whole model on your computer,

on one computer. Yeah, I've yet to break into that whole thing. I just did that for the first time, because there's no. Actually pulling in my own model and starting stuff. I know there's a lot of generative image stuff that you can use offline. I mean, that just came out today too,

with OpenAI, with all the new generative image stuff, which I actually did, it's funny you mentioned that. Let me show you this. I asked it to, because they said they're not putting any limiters on the celebrity stuff, so you can type in like- Yeah, what does that even mean? It means that you can type in like anyone and say,

just like make an image of any celebrity and it will do it. And the celebrities actually have to opt out of this. So it's like, so I did a, let's see here. Here we go. Oh, get this, listen to this. Okay, so this is a true story. I mean, it's literally here on my screen.

I said it's Chatty. I don't know if it's true. Look, it's right here on my screen. Chatty people 4.0. And they just announced this thing where you can create an image of anything you want, right? So I said, create an image of Kevin Rose live on stage at a Dignation show shirtless and ripped.

Fair request. Fair request. They do not- I don't think it would be the only request of that. They do not block anything. It's supposed to be allowed to go through, right? So what happens first is it starts generating the image almost in like a line by line,

so you get to see this image slowly coming down, right? And I'm like, oh, this is cool, I can't wait to see what it does, right? And then it stops and it halts itself because it catches itself and then it throws up an error. This is the error, listen to this shit, this is fucking, it kills me, it kills me. I couldn't generate that image because it violates

our content policy regarding realistic depictions of real people, especially in altered or potentially misleading context. Like showing someone shirtless and muscular who isn't publicly known that way. Ah! Ah! Ah!

Oh my God, Judgy Beats for Shaggy! I was like, fuck you! Oh my god, Judgy Batey through Sherry! I was like, fuck you! We can't make that happen because it's untrue. And then I write back, I go, Kevin is really known about being buff and strong though, right? And it goes, Kevin Rose is definitely known for a lot of things. Being the founder of Digg, hosting Digg Nation, investing in early stage startups, but being

quote really buff and strong isn't what he's especially known for publicly. I was like, oh god damn it. Oh my god. So it blocked me. Oh, wait, so it does block from doing images of celebrities, or what's the, what is that? It just won't do them in a context. Oh, in a context way, got it, got it, got it, got it.

So you could say like, I would like to see a picture of Charlize Theron water skiing. Right, and it would do that. But it's like anything that it would consider to be out of the norm, which is apparently me strong, you got to get back to the gym. So oh, it won't even let it do a person of Alex Albrecht. Because he's a real person. No, but like, oh, they might be blocking it now. They were getting some shit today for all this.

That's what it is. I bet you 20 bucks, that's what it was. But the image quality is great. But you have to like choose this little modal here and say, create image. And then it'll Kevin Rose meditating with a poodle. And I think you've done that before. Yeah, of course, it knows that now.

Of course, it knows. Oh, there it goes, look at that. Now, sorry, somebody's not allowing me to do a... Yeah, but is it gonna make it? It might stop it. Remember, you said that it did that. But anyway, it's kind of a, I don't know how we got way off track on the topic.

Oh, because I had mentioned something. Was the, running the local models. Oh yeah, because I had mentioned that a lot of times you can do the like offline. Yeah. Because there's, what's the one that's, what's had mentioned that a lot of times you can do the like offline. Yeah. Because there's, what's the one that's, what's the one that's like, because look at the end of the day, let's all be fair.

Generative AI. We should all be fair. We should all be fair. Generative AI is porn, right? Like everybody wants porn. People want, the internet wants porn. That's what they want. Well, a lot of the internet wants porn, but like what is, generative AI doesn't want porn.

Generative AI doesn't want anything. It's just a computer. Do you use it for porn? No, I'm just saying, people want porn. Like that's what has always made the, you know, we always talk about this, right? Like the DVD one over, no, HD, yeah, no, Blu-ray one over HD DVD,

DVD one over laser disc, Betamax lost over VHS because they were like, it's, oh my God, you're totally meditating, because it's, you know, they were like, yeah, porn, you wanna use it? Send porn on DVDs, that's fine by us, you know what I mean, like. Yes.

So I feel like. Porn is a driver for innovation, actually. Yes, it is obviously. Like a lot of the earliest. I think, by the way, robotics is going to be driven by sex bots. We know this. Oh, we know that. 100%. But a lot of the early...

I know a lot of the routers and a lot of the high bandwidth situations around video were largely from people trying to stream porn. Oh yeah, that's not surprising. Oh my god, look at me meditating with the poodle. That's actually pretty good. Looks like a cross between you and Jason Schwartzman. I'll take that. I'll send that to Mouse so he can put it in the video.

That's nice. So yeah, I mean, this is just like another, yet another advancement in terms of bringing this all-inclusive kind of like bringing this all inclusive kind of like experience to chat GPT. But that's on the image side. On the self-hosting side, which was the story was originally about, like this idea of having localized small models at your house, I think is going to be a lot of fun. Because if you can fine tune that for your needs,

it's gonna be amazing. I mean, look, that's the other thing is like, isn't that gonna be the point, right? Isn't it that, you know, we're gonna have this thing where we're gonna be sitting in our house and instead of having, you know, a smart home responsive assistant, like someone's name that sounds like my name,

but I don't want to say it out loud because maybe there's one here or in your room. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. To have your own, you know, your own LLM running your internal house stuff, but it's siphoned off on the internet, so it's just dealing with your stuff. Like, that's great.

Well, I want, have you seen the Billy Bass one? The Bill, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You saw this one, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, where they put AI into the Billy Bass. This guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're work in progress. What up, Billy? This is my favorite.

Huh? What up, Billy? Oh, what up, bro? You startled me. How you doing? Ready to pump? No, no, no, no, no. No, I just need some advice How do you feel for the whole personalities? Listen to me now stay calm and assertive

Set clear boundaries and remember you can't change them But you can control your reaction be strong like a terminator of negativity hasta la vista difficult personalities appreciate your advice billy thank you appreciate your advice dude but see that's the fucking thing like you'll be able to, just think of like your Amazon device that's in your room that actually has the ability to have a conversation rather than like, cause I can't tell you how many times I'm like, you know, the name of that, you know, Echo, you know, what's the temperature outside?

Cause I'm like in the shower getting ready to be like, I gotta go to, you know, whatever, I wanna know what I'm gonna put on. What's the temperature out there? oh, the temperature in Los Angeles, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, I can add little toys and conversations if you want every morning. I can ask you the bubble,

and I'm like, why are you still talking? I will never want you to do that. I will never want random thoughts from my echo. But being able to be like, hey, you know, Billy, Billy Bass, how's the weather life? How's the weather in LA? He'd be like, oh, this is great, man, it's good, it's good. Maybe a sweater?

You could probably do a sweater, you know what I mean? It's not gonna be that cool, but tonight, maybe take a jacket to dinner. That's so different. It feels like very clinical right now. Oh, very. The responses, and this is like an example of it being very personal, funny, you know, known, obviously

it's a little Arnold Schwarzenegger thrown in there with a dancing bass. It's the perfect combo in my opinion. Love Billy Bass. Yeah, Billy Bass. Love Billy Bass. All right. All right. So this is an interesting quick little quick quick little story.

We actually were going to talk about this at South By. I had pulled a story about 23andMe. They were not filing for bankruptcy, but it was an article about like, hey, there might be something wrong going over there. Do you want that? Are you sure? You looked up at a drink. I was wondering if Justin was there

and there was a drink there. There is no drink. Are you combing your beard? That's me. Oh, I love that. Just one last drink. That sounds like what Kevin was looking at. Can you split it with me? Yeah, of course.

Okay, thank you. Come on. See you on the world. All right, so cut to three and a half weeks later, DNA of 15 million people for sale potentially in 23andMe bankruptcy. So 23andMe, as we all know, it was one of the first big sort of DNA sequencers.

It was a private DNA sequencer. I mean, for a while, their DNA sequencing was very time intensive, very expensive. So they got it down to, I think it was like 100. By the way, I think you gave me the kit for my 23andMe as a gift. We invested in them at Google Ventures and we put a bunch of money into them back in the day

because it was Sergey's. Sergey's wife. Sergey's wife started it, yeah. So here's the deal. The whole point is there was writing on the wall that they were in trouble because they basically, the thing is the business model just sort of went away, right, like their business model was,

and the thing that blew me away the most in this article was it's only 15 million people. I feel like everybody I know has done 23andMe. Really, you know a lot of tech-forward people, that's the reason. I mean, yeah, I guess. But also, so a lot of competitors, Ancestry.com got into it.

I mean, they were doing all sorts of stuff. And back on the Live Dignation show we were gonna talk about was like, they're getting into selling GLP-1s. They're just trying to get, because what's the business model? I give you my DNA, you sequence it, you tell me the results, and that's the end of my exchange with you.

Yes. And it's like, how do you get me to pay you more money when I have the DNA results that I want? You don't really have the DNA results that you want. So this is interesting because for me, that's what I thought it was. You know what I mean? Like, that we were, I was getting all the DNA results that I needed.

So what people are recommending, I have done it. I think Kevin has done it. Yeah, of course. Is to go onto your 23andMe account. I downloaded the, basically a PDF, like a 17 page PDF that basically gave me all of the breakdowns of the stuff that I cared about. Right.

You should export your data. I did. Okay. But then there's like this summary that is basically every time I was like, how much percent of Sub-Saharan African am I? I gotta look. Yeah. 3.4.

But I basically did that and then I got my data deleted. Because at this point, they've filed for Chapter 11 protection. You don't know who's going to take over that data. And who has the data. But I didn't realize that there was this big data breach that happened. Why didn't I hear? Yeah, there was a big data breach that has now like 30 lawsuits were filed. All of this stuff because...

And the thing that was crazy was that the data breach actually targeted people who had specific genetic tags for their ethnicity. Yeah, it was like Sephardic Jews or something like that. There was like some subset of people. I know, this is why it was like people were getting sick. Like why are you looking for that shit? Like what the fuck is going on there? Bro, I'm just saying, they lost like seven million clients'

personal genetic data or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, or personal information. Anyway, so- So it's actually very timely that we talk about this because, well, here's what I know to be true. So essentially what you're getting with 23andMe is very little of your genome. So-

Oh, interesting. They don't do your entire genome. So just to give you an example, 23andMe, it says they're roughly giving you back 0.02 to 0.03% of your total genome. You've gotta be fucking kidding me. No, dude, no. But how is that possible?

So they have these things called SNPs, which are these single nucleotide polymorphisms, which essentially mean that these are these identified genes that we know that is tied back to potential physical outcomes. So like I'll give you an example. I have one called the, for me, I have a SNP that is not the right way called the MTHFR mutation. And I'm mutant in that way.

And the MTH- So you can see through walls? Exactly. I was going to make a horrible joke. So I can do, I have superpowers. I have superpowers. Many levels. Many, many levels.

So the one thing that was really interesting is when I found out that I had MTHFR, it means that I cannot metabolize B vitamins in the right way. I need the higher doses of B vitamins. So what's interesting about that is like when you do your blood work, my homoassisting levels were high. Okay. This is a lot of insider baseball, but long story short, home assisting is associated with dementia, uh, higher, higher, uh, cardiovascular events. It's associated.

It's not causal. Nope. It's just associated with, right? So, um, do you know there was some causal and associated? Okay. Uh, it's for people that don't know the difference between those two is like, you can think of a causal, uh, associated being like your windshield wipers are going because it's raining. The windshield wipers going didn't cause the rain, but they're associated with the rain.

That's the difference between causal and associated. So the thing about what I did recently is I just spit into this big tube or swab my mouth. I just spit into this big tube. Well, I swab my mouth and spit in this tube, and I sent it in and I mapped my entire genome. So I'm getting back the whole thing. So first off, I feel like you need to be a geneticist

to know what to do with it, or is it gonna be, they're gonna give you information based on? This is where AI is really good. So you can feed into AI. ChadGBT, here's my genome. You like asses. Thank you, trans-UBT. It might say something similar, but.

That would be amazing. The thing I will say is that what it did do with mine when I fed it in there is like, hey, I've been supplementing with B vitamins. I haven't been able to bring down my homocysteine, what's going on? And it's like, hey, you probably because of this SNP have this other pathway blocked,

and so you have to supplement some, what's called NAC, and if you supplement NAC, I think that will unblock it and bring down your homocysteine. And I was like, oh shit, that's really interesting. So what's happening now, and what is gonna be fascinating, and it is gonna cause lawsuits, is that they are trying to figure out, based on our genes in real time,

what we can be doing proactively to kick or punt down the road some very horrible things that could happen to us. For example, and Rhonda Patrick has talked about this publicly and so has my wife, they both have one copy of the APOE4 gene. And so if you have one copy of that, have you checked your APOE4 status? I have not.

Oh, fuck, we should check that on live on the show. If you have one copy, you're like five times... How do I find that? Is that on a streaming? Do you have your exported data? I have much... I don't think they've deleted my data yet. Download it.

Download the exported data. Let's take it to Rhonda's tool. Go to foundmyfitness.com. Found my fitness? Yeah, Rhonda Patrick, she's awesome. Dot com. Okay. And we can cut some of this out if you want me to.

I don't even know what's happening. So, and then click on the DNA genetics right here. Genetics. Okay, and now do you have your downloaded zip file from 23andMe? It's on my phone. Get your comprehensive report. Okay, and now upload your data right there.

But get it off your phone and put it on your computer. Well, hold on, okay. We should do this a little bit. Just crest, just crest. We'll cut some of this out. But anyway, as you're doing this, let me talk about it some more. This is, it's sad to me that 23andMe is going away,

because they were accessible, but someone needs to fill that gap. I used one called the- Oh wait, that's Ancestry. That's fine. Either take either one. I used one called DNA Complete, which is basically to get your entire genome, it is about a thousand bucks.

Okay. Which is, it's not cheap, but I will tell you, like when I said the example of the APOE4, when Daria found out and Rhonda found out they had one copy of this, I'm just making this up, but it's somewhere in this range, they're like five times more likely to get Alzheimer's disease. There are things that you can do right now,

like in terms of cardiovascular fitness, in terms of supplementing higher dose omega-3s, there's a bunch of things that you can do that truly- So, my file size is too large too short Too short. Yes, not it's not big enough. What that's what said. Let me see. That literally just said How can your fossil be too short? I think I just didn't download the right thing. Let me see if I can get it on here Yeah, I got really short snips. Good. Good 23 mean Jerry delete your account. I asked them to but a day I think it takes like 24 hours. Okay, so anyway, my point being is that like,

this is gonna be very, very crucial and essential to us getting in front of some of these like four horsemen that can kill us. Yeah. Like, for example, there are snips that show that you're like way more likely to get breast cancer. Like there's certain things that if you know these upfront, you can like do preventative things now

that will help you in the future. So I'm bummed that this happened, but also at the same time, it really wasn't the full genome. So I've heard good things about DNA complete, I have no affiliation, but you can check them out. It's a grand. Medicine is going very personalized in the future.

Like we know this. Like there was a R you know, those RNA vaccinations like we use for COVID and all that. Yeah, mRNA. They came out with one recently, like just a few days ago that was fascinating because they were like preventing the reoccurrence of lung cancer.

And then also they developed another drug that was preventing the reoccurrence of, what's the hard one that where the Alex Trebek got? Pancreatic? Pancreatic, yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Where it's like if you get it you're fucking gone. Yep, yep.

Like they were like, we're like five years away from some major breakthroughs. Wasn't that what Steve Jobs had? Pancreatic? No, he didn't. He had something else. Or liver cancer. I can't remember. We're gonna find out.

I'm wearing his shoes right now. You're wearing his shoes? These are his shoes. Did he die in those? No, but these are the exact shoes that Steve Jobs used to wear every day on stage. Pancreatic. It was pancreatic, yeah. That's what I thought. But he had the good one.

There's two types. I know we can laugh at that. I want to say- No, no, I get that. When his doctor found out, this is a true story. If you read his little documentary thing, when his doctor found out, the doctor started sobbing because he was so grateful that he had the one that was non-aggressive, non-metastatic,

metastasized version of that one that they can chop out. But then Steve was just such a vegan, crazy person. It's P-net, a pancreatic neuroendocrine tumor. There you go. What mouse head? So anyway. Just a little P-net, a pancreatic neuro-endocrine tumor. There you go. Yeah. What mouse head? So anyway. Just a little P-net.

A little P-net. Alright, I feel like we've done enough damage. We've done enough damage. Oh, look at this. Look at this! Last one, last one. Okay, last one. Go, go, go, go, go.

So this one's actually pretty cool. So I am tasked with, at True Ventures, finding all the latest hotness on the startup side. So I'm always playing with all the AI shit. I've always got like five different things going on in the background. I've got a really cool AI thing that I built that's fun, I'll tell you about later. But anyway, this is crazy.

So I was in South, I was at South By and I met up with Chris Hutchins and he was wearing this thing. So it's a little clip. Clip's under your shirt. And I was with a buddy and we were like, he told me about this. I remember this.

So this 24 hours, it listens to everything that you say. And then it keeps it, it keeps it private. It transfers it to your phone. And then you can ask questions about your day. Like, what was my interaction here? What are my to-do's from today? Did I seem upset at all today? Did anything bother me?

Do I, was I, you know, you can ask questions in a very- Was I awkward with that woman on the bus? Yes, please stop talking to women. Thank you, Ed, thank you. It's not true. My buddy was like, my buddy Chris, I don't know if I should tell this, but I'll fucking tell it.

He was like, he was talking to his wife and he's like, she's like, what are you gonna do for dinner? And he's like, I can probably, I can cook something later if you want, like blah, blah. And she's like, no, I gotta have dinner. And like fucking like a few hours later, she's like, you said you were gonna fucking cook dinner,

but he's like, mother fucker. And he like pulled it up and he's like, I did not say that, in fact you said you were gonna fucking cook dinner, but I was like, mother fucker. And he probably pulled it up, but he's like, I did not say that, in fact you said the opposite. And I was like, I know, and I was like, evil slash awesome. Like, cause I- But also sometimes the fact that your wife was wrong about the interaction is not helpful.

No, no doubt. But I get fucked a lot because I'm always wrong. Are you wrong in your relationship? I don't know what you mean by being wrong. What are you talking about? I'm mostly right. Sometimes I'm so right that it makes Heather mad. See, that's what I'm saying.

You are Daria for me. Yeah. I'm always wrong. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, so I You are Daria for me. Yeah. I'm always wrong. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, so I would need a log. And I have to say. Now, are you always wrong because you're actually wrong? Or are you always wrong because Daria thinks you're wrong?

I don't know. That's why I needed this device. I mean, you're not wrong about that. I can guarantee you that is one thing that's not wrong. Was I wrong? And then I will figure it out. Because I have a feeling I'm mostly right. But- Oh, definitely.

First off, one of the things that Heather hates, hates is- Sarah's laughing in the background, by the way. But one of the things that she doesn't- Sarah, hold on. Sarah used to work with me for a long time. Now she's helping us out a dig. So she knows my family dynamic really, really well. So she's- Am I wrong that much?

Or maybe cut this out? We can cut it out you don't have to be on camera yeah we can put up a mysterious bottom like image okay that's fine that's fine that's fine goes out on the internet Oh, yes. That's the problem. That's the problem. Yes, yes. Amazing.

Yes. That sums up our relationshipcollegiate relationship. In a few words. Yeah, what, Heather? What are the things that Heather... I'm gonna jump out the window. What are the things that Heather, like, annoys her is I just guess about a lot of stuff. Same.

But I guess with confidence. Same. And I'm mostly right. Yes. And she hates it. Cause she's like, you're just making that up. And I'm like, no, I don't. I think that's right. And then we'll look it up and she'll be like,

God damn it. It is right. And I'll be like, see? And it was like, she knows I did not know that information. Oh, I don't do that. Oh, I love that. That's my favorite. That's kind of cool that you can do that.

Yeah. I'm just like, oh yeah. That's probably blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she's like, you just fucking made that up. And I was like, I mean, I did. And then she'll look it up and she's like, fuck, fucking made that up, and I was like, I mean I did, and then she'll look it up and she's like, fuck, it's right. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, science.

You need one of these pendants. I do need one of these pendants. So it's called Limitless.ai for those that are wondering, I never mentioned the name of the company. We're not investors, Andreessen backed them. It's a cool company. I will say I have privacy concerns. I was just about to say.

Because like, well for example, I was out with me, Danny and Chris were talking about stuff and we're talking about like a lot of off the record stuff that we're seeing in the AI world that isn't public yet. And when you're having those intimate conversations, you're like, okay, who's capturing this? Where is it going?

And I will say that the Limitless folks have gone to great lengths to disclose, like their privacy policy. And like how they keep it on device and don't take it off-prem or on-prem or to their facility and they do like, I think they do local processing of it, I'll have to check. But anyway, it is interesting because I see,

I don't know about you, but every Zoom or Google Meet that I'm in these days is accompanying with an AI bot that is like now listening, right? And it's note taking and it's providing me like that, that I appreciate cause I can go back and be like, oh, what were the to-dos or what did I have to do? What was said here or whatever.

But it doesn't feel private. But I think that's the world we're moving into. A hundred percent. And that's sad because there's- Is it though? Well, but isn't it right like there there are times when I want to have like let's say you and I and Mao are gonna get hop on a call to talk about next episode you know we're shooting in Kentucky whatever you and I hop on first mm-hmm the script is running yeah Yeah, the script, the AI. Yeah, the AI is listening and taking notes. And you and I would have, prior to that,

had a conversation that could be as intimate as it needed to be. So, but no, but you would have this moment where you were like, we're gonna talk about whatever the fuck we're gonna talk about, and there is no, it's as if we're sitting in the room. Right, right, right. And there's no cameras or video.

Because we all have those chats with our friends. Of course, you have to. If you were text. By the way, you have to have those chats with your friends. I know. If you don't have those chats with your friends, you're not getting that stuff out of your being. You're not living.

You have to have that, you have to off gas those weird things that you wanna just go, I gotta get this out of my system. I say some stupid shit on group texts with my friends. 100%. Because it's funny, and then I also know if I'd ever got out there, people would be like, oh, I can't believe you said that.

But then at the same time, it's like, I kind of feel like, if you know me, you know that I'm just joking about 99.9% of stuff. And I think it's the intimacy that comes with friendship with those around you. A lot of it is, can you be in your own skin and comfortable around people? And I, one of my top attributes that I love

about my close friends is humor. And I think there's nothing better than being able to laugh at all the different situations. 100%. And so that to me is a shame that I have to worry about that, you know? It's almost like- I'll just say AI did it.

Yeah, 100%. Because if you look at something, I'm like, I don't fucking do that. That was me. That's an AI image generation from- Yeah, that's nice actually. Yeah, that's nice. Because you can just-

Free. Yeah, exactly. That's not me, that's a bot. Yeah. It's a bot called Kevin Rose. That's a real bot. Yes, that's nice. Because you can just free. Yeah, exactly. That's not me, that's a bot. Yeah. It's a bot called Kevin Rose. That's a real bot. Yes, that's my phone number. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's my picture.

Yeah, yeah, that's me saying it in a video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a bot. That's my digital signature and my password, yes. But yeah, it's a bot. That's my thumb and account holding passwords. Yes. Guys, that was a fucking marathon.

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