Diggnation (rebooted) - Kung Fu Robots Are Here and We Should Be Worried | AI Jobs, OpenClaw, and a $16M Pokemon Card

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

In this week's episode, Kevin and Alex reunite after Alex's whirlwind trip to the UK, where he survived Manchester, explored Edinburgh's frigid beauty, and spectacularly broke his Dry January... streak at a house party on January 31st. The conversation quickly turns to Kevin's upcoming birthday and his ambitious "year of health" plan to get absolutely shredded by his next tortoise-year milestone (yes, they calculated his age in giant tortoise years - he's only 34). The duo dives deep into the AI revolution, discussing the massive news that OpenClaw's creator Peter Steinberg has joined OpenAI, and what this means for the future of AI agents that can literally call restaurants, navigate phone trees, and order more booze for your party via robot dog. They also unpack a new study claiming AI fails at 96% of jobs - but Kevin points out the terrifying flip side: it's only been three years and AI has already captured 4% of human work.The episode takes a wild turn when Alex pulls up footage of Chinese humanoid robots performing kung fu at the Spring Festival Gala, prompting legitimate concerns about why anyone would train robots in martial arts. Apple's upcoming March 4th event gets the skeptical treatment it deserves - when was the last time an Apple announcement actually blew anyone's mind? The hosts wrap up by discussing Logan Paul's $16.4 million Pokemon card sale and Kevin's newfound obsession with Disney's Lorcana trading card game, complete with a heartbreaking reminder that Kevin lost his entire comic book collection (including first-edition X-Men and Amazing Spider-Man) in the LA fires. Justin stops by to tease Digg's upcoming video posts feature and the new Grid View for visual communities.SponsorsMercury: Banking redesigned for entrepreneurs — apply online in minuteshttps://mercury.com/DeleteMe: Get 20% off and remove your personal data from hundreds of siteshttps://joindeleteme.com/digg (code: DIGG)Monarch: Get 50% off your first year with code DIGGhttps://monarch.com/ZBiotics: Get 15% off your first order with code DIGGhttps://zbiotics.com/diggLMNT: Free 8-count sample pack with any purchasehttps://drinklmnt.com/diggChapters0:00:00 - Kirkland Champagne: The Official Drink of Chaos0:00:18 - Welcome to Diggnation, Ex-Girlfriends Please Email In0:01:51 - Kevin Doesn't Know What Spin the Bottle Is (Sure, Jan)0:02:07 - Alex's Scotland Adventure Was Beautiful and Freezing0:03:42 - Alex's Dry January: A Heroic 30.5 Day Journey0:05:05 - Ten Hours in the Frankfurt Airport, Send Help0:06:36 - Kevin Is Only 34 in Giant Tortoise Years0:09:01 - The Year of Getting Absolutely Shredded0:10:45 - Ben's Philosophy: Does Booze Increase Enjoyment?0:14:06 - OpenClaw Creator Joins OpenAI, VCs Are Crying0:18:36 - AI Agents That Call BMW So You Don't Have To0:21:03 - Robot Dog Orders More Alcohol for Your Party0:25:16 - China Is Teaching Robots Kung Fu, We're All Doomed0:28:45 - Would You Get a Massage From a Kung Fu Robot?0:35:33 - The Costco Wine Hack That Changed Heather's Life0:37:14 - Kevin's Childhood String Cheese Column Obsession0:39:34 - AI Fails at 96% of Jobs (But Give It Five Years)0:43:44 - Your Fitness App Is About to Become Obsolete0:46:48 - Alexa, Say "Breakfast" in Every Room Challenge0:47:07 - Apple's March Event: When Did We Stop Caring?0:50:50 - Remember When the iPhone Was Actually Exciting?1:00:00 - Logan Paul's $16.4 Million Pokemon Card Flex1:02:00 - Kevin Discovers Lorcana and Catches the Bug1:05:50 - Kevin Lost First-Edition X-Men in the Fire1:09:01 - Digg Updates: Grid View and Video Posts Coming Soon1:11:07 - Until Next Time, Stay Sober (Or Don't)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Kirkland's signature. It'll do you right. We need a new sponsor. I was like a Costco read. Like straight up unprompted. Costco, where affordability meets quality. Oh my God. We don't get Costco. Yeah, Kirkland, we're fishing.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Welcome to Dignation. Also potentially hazardous to your health. All right, moving on. Why do you have flies in? freaking house. I've noticed in Southern California and I have fruit. You put zontery and put hearing in the title and I don't want to do it. Dignation.com. Friends, family, colleagues, past associates, ex-girlfriends, and everyone there watching,
Starting point is 00:00:47 I just wanted to say, I said that for you, ex-girlfriends, me and me. I was going to say it. I wanted to say, happy Dignation, episode number 27. I'm Kevin Rose, your friendly neighborhood host. And I'm Alex Albrecht. clearly more prepared for the beginning of the show. I'm tired. I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:01:04 I just love... I don't know if any of our ex-girlfriends actually watch the show. Actually, that would be hysterical. If you are one of our ex-girlfriends, feel free to email in at Dignation. At dig. No, do not email in. I just would be interested. I could have, like, you know...
Starting point is 00:01:20 A child that you don't know about. Kate Cohen from elementary school. Oh, interesting. Was that really a nice girlfriend? I had a girlfriend strong. Why'd you break up? I had a crush. What happened?
Starting point is 00:01:29 I don't think we ever officially dated. We were fucking whatever. It's seven. Did you ever play spin the bottle? You know, that's a really interesting question. You never did? No, no, no. I don't know that I never did.
Starting point is 00:01:40 I don't think I did. Let's go over to Justin. He was on his phone. No, he was. Mike, you're Mike. No, he's Mike. I was just looking up what spin the bottle was. You know what it is.
Starting point is 00:01:52 As a good Christian boy. I wasn't sure what that was. Hard pass. Enjoy your apple juice, Christian boy. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, my God. Speaking of apple juice.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Oh, yes. We are back. It is official. It's been a while. I feel like you were traveling. I was traveling. Yes. Where did you?
Starting point is 00:02:09 You came back from Scottsville or something? Idaho. I'm just kidding. It was in Scottsdale. I came back from, I was in Manchester. Oh. And then, uh, uh, fucking Scotland, Edinburgh. Oh, how was it?
Starting point is 00:02:23 Amazing. Oh, man, old town. Edinburgh is so beautiful. It's a bad. I've never been to Scotland before. Oh, really? Oh, my God. You take the train up there?
Starting point is 00:02:29 fucking cold. Took a train from Manchester. Isn't it awesome? Gorgeous, but Jesus, fuck, we were ill-prepared for the cold. Yeah, but it's kind of cool when it's cold. Did you go into some little pubs and get a little bit of drinking drinks? Oh, God, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I did dry January, as you guys know.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Did you make it? I made it to January 31st in Manchester, England. Wait, you flew out there sober? Yeah, I fly it. I mean, I had a Xanax. I don't know if it's sober, but... Say we're rich. But I...
Starting point is 00:02:59 Oh, the claustophobia gets you. It does a little. A little. Actually, not as bad on planes. I don't know why. Even small planes. Like, when I would fly with people in like really small planes. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:10 None of that. So when you were getting your pilot's license, you ever didn't worry about, like, having a panic attack? No. Oh, wow. Never did. Crazy. I think it's because I can, like, see outside.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And I'm in control of the thing, so it's not like... You know, the other thing that I never did? I never had to pee. I always thought about that. I'd be up there flying. you know, for a couple hours. And I was like, man, if I had to pee, that would suck. Do they give you little things in case you have to?
Starting point is 00:03:32 No. No, you're not going to just take a leak in a Cessna. What if you have to go? I would just land. I would find the closest airport. Land, pullover, pee. Yeah, exactly. I mean, open field would be all right.
Starting point is 00:03:46 But yeah, no, I had a really, had a really good time in the UK. Oh, but back to the dry January, it was our friends' daughters 18th birthday. on that Saturday night, the 31st. I mean, her birthday was Wednesday, which was Heather's birthday. They showed the same birthday. That's why we went out there to surprise her. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:04:05 But so it was like a crazy, awesome UK house party, and Heather and I both just got fucking blitzed. Really? Because we were also like the L.A. couple that flew in to surprise her. So like all the people were like, you guys are from L.A.? This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Heather said that came around the glitzed. Because it was like, we're hanging out. We're having one. Just, you know, it's something like a cool-ass house party and, you know. Were you jet lag too? Fuck yeah. Yeah, see, that probably added to it. We, so how fucked up is this?
Starting point is 00:04:34 Our flight got canceled the day before we flew. Oh, shit. Yeah. So we had to reroute everything. We spent, I spent 10 and a half hours in the Frankfurt airport. Oh, my God. 10 and a half hours. That's the same.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I don't even know what I did. Thankfully, you told me about the Claude code I was working for like most of it. But like, that's too long. Fucking just. You were on vacation too. I was, I was. Although your sounds pretty epic. And I do have to acknowledge the fact that you were less than 24 hours away from hitting a dry January.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yes. And you just decided to spike it down. I did. And just say, time, you do not own me. That's kind of a power move in a really powerful way. I knew in my heart that I had made it. Yeah. And that's all I needed.
Starting point is 00:05:18 You knew that there was one time zone somewhere. It was. That's what I was thinking. It's kind of like you're in a different zip code. Yes. And you can date someone else. else, right? It's like that with the drinking. If you're flying and it's international, then that makes a nurse. I know this is your M.O. That doesn't fly? That's not fly. Well,
Starting point is 00:05:39 you were flying. You were flying. If you're flying, then it's air rules. It's kind of like out at sea. International waters. International waters. You're in international airspace. It is the next day somewhere. I thought about that. Like there are certain things that you can do in international. international waters. Like most things. No, but like there's like, there's like piracy isn't illegal? Piracy isn't illegal. Like if you download like like pirated stuff like files and stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:08 You're not talking about like commandeering. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not like trying to take about can I download a move? No, no, no, no. I was talking about taking over other ships and vessels. That's completely legal as long as you're in international waters. The sea tends to frown upon that. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:06:23 But you can drink as much grog as you'd like. Exactly. I'll take a little extra. Speaking of which, oh, man, this is so good. Oh, yeah. I finally got your wine hooch. Okay. It's been a while since you had it.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Well, you know, it's almost my birthday. I know. Almost having birthday to you, sir. And by the next Dignation, I will be a year older. Still my 40s. And this is the year of health for me. I'm going. I love that you say that.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Blik, blick, blibb. This is the year of health. No, no. Once I turn, I'm not. Forty-nine is the year of health. I didn't say I was turning 49. You did. Some.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Some. some number. It depends on how you do the math. Okay. From the day you were born. Listen, there are different types. There's Chinese ears.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Yeah. There's different types of years. Do you know what you are year? Dog years wise? Are you a dog? You're a year of the dog? No, what's the Chinese year? No, I actually, it's a good question.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Are you 77? Hold on. Let me ask chat. No, but there probably is a calendar we could go by. You could literally be younger. Do you know what I'm saying? Of course. Do you guys know which one I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:07:25 calendar where you get one year older every four years? What are those maybe turtle years? What are the things there's certain animals that live really long you don't I'm talking about? I mean turtles. The gooey duck? Yeah, exactly. The gooey duck? Yeah. Oh, the gooey duck, the eatable thing. Well, yeah, but I'm about to turn
Starting point is 00:07:41 49. I have, they're gooey. Is there any calendar in which I could judge my age that would make me seem younger? Like turtle years Julian calendar, maybe. Absolutely. Okay. Let's see where he's chat, but two, five, two says. Short answer is yes. Ah.
Starting point is 00:07:57 If you're willing to switch to a little refact. Galapagos giant turtle years, you were right. Holy shit. There it is. Okay. So I'm only 34 in tortoise years. Amazing. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I just came up with some new shit. The Galahaba was giant turtle. I can't even say it. We started having some mascot before the show started. Which is, by the way, great idea. It was a great idea. But I'm 34. So you're 34.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Okay. But so 34 Galapagos. Giant tortoise years. Is going to be the year of all? Yes. Okay. That's where we're going with this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Is it all like shark fin soup or what's the like? Here's like the legit shit. Rhino horn. When I turn 36 and tortoise years, whatever that is in 50. The next one. Yeah. I'm going to be ripped. Oh.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Like, shredded, healthy, just like, just, because I know you work out a lot. Yeah. And you're putting a hoodie on because you don't want to show what you got. Well, this one's, I'm back from vacation, so I'm feeling a little soft. I feel a little self-conscious. Did you do push-ups before you came up here? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I feel like when I fall off, I got to fall off hard. I got that. You know, and so I got to get back in it this week. But I won't be wearing a hoodie anymore. The next show you've seen me, I'll be topless. Amazing. Yeah. That's going to be so great.
Starting point is 00:09:23 So now, Kevin. I don't know that's going to help or hurt ratings. So did you, does this mean, because when I hear shredded, yeah, I hear not drinking. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:33 So are you planning on doing like a year of not drinking? I've got a new, because we got to get some stuff. No, no, no, no, no, I've got a new. I hear it rains.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Sounds beautiful. I, it's a little redden dinner and come down to shop. I can't, I can't even take two drinks now. I'm like a rookie because I took so many months off.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Okay, but you're back. You're back. My point is that, What I want is with drinking it for it to be a special occasion. So I have a friend's birthday in Japan in March. I'm going to have a couple of Japanese cocktails out there. A couple.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Ish. Domo, Arragato, cosaymats. I mean, there may be a few there, but I want it to be those very special moments and then long stretches. Of kind of like not drinking.
Starting point is 00:10:20 So our friend Ben, he had, I chatted with him a week ago or so. How's he doing? He's doing great. And I was asking him about his relationship with booze because he took some time off to do like a whole big cleanse thing, like a reset of all of his stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:36 It was a whole big thing. Like coffee out of sugar out, you know, blah, blah, blah. And so I was like, are you back to doing booze? And he said his new concept, which I was like, oh my God, that speaks so much to me, which is if booze would increase, my enjoyment of an experience, then I'll have it.
Starting point is 00:10:57 But if it's just like sitting at home watching TV, you know, if I'm out to dinner with friends, having a glass of wine would boost my enjoyment of that experience, going to a party, right, birthday party, traveling, you know, it would boost it. So he's like, so that's where I'm like,
Starting point is 00:11:13 I would experience those things. To me, my problem is you like to drink when you watch TV. Sitting at home watching TV, booze, does increase the enjoyment of that experience. I don't know what that metric works. I just don't think it scales. I know.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I know. I mean, do you guys really get like, TV's death in? If I'm alone, I don't drink. I will say that. That's good.
Starting point is 00:11:35 If I'm alone, I don't, only because by that metric, it doesn't help me enjoy a movie more. Like, if I'm just sitting there, uh, but if I'm,
Starting point is 00:11:43 if I'm home and Hannah's making dinner and she's got a glass of wine, I'm just like, a glass of wine would make this. Okay, here's a question. Yeah. How many times does your significant, others pull you into the drink farm.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Me, big time. I was supposed to do Dry January with Heather, and she was just like, nope, can't do it. I'm not interested. And so it's like, but it's also okay because I was able to just be like, dry January was fine by myself. But it's real, Heather and I are real,
Starting point is 00:12:12 not enablers because that word has some negative connotations. Why does that have negative connotations? All it takes one person to be like, you know, I could use, oh yeah, let's do it. It's doing a lot. It's fucking because I'm drinking in the middle of the day. What do you expect, Kevin?
Starting point is 00:12:28 You're finally catching up. You didn't drink because the antibiotics. No, not yet. I know because I'm going to drink it when we do the sponsors later. Okay. So wait, what are you doing for your birthday then? Do you know? For this year?
Starting point is 00:12:41 Yeah. Oh, I'm going to meditation retreats. All right. Blown out of your ass? No, I'm going to be like, I'm starting clean. Oh, I see. Right, because this is the year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:49 This all makes sense. Yeah. I'm flying there the day of my birthday. So you're going to have to drink like a horse? I might have a couple of cocktails. Have you just tried like a Valium? Or not Valium, a Xanax? I've tried both those things.
Starting point is 00:13:04 They do help with the flights. Yeah, that's what it means. Like in lieu of the drinks? Yeah, because I have another friend that does that. She like gets fucking, she's like, I just got to get Blato because I hate flying so much. I mean, yeah, I wish they worked better. Like, they kind of like make you a little bit like whatever. but like when you're drinking, like, yeah, it's like,
Starting point is 00:13:22 when, when? Like, both you're drinking and you're not, you don't care about flying. I mean, you're not wrong about that. I totally, I appreciate where you're coming from. Yeah, yeah. So, anyway, what's a collectibles thing? It says note collectibles. Because you had said, are, do you, we had said something about a collectible thing, some
Starting point is 00:13:38 story we were looking at. But this later, we're going to talk about that later. No, I know, but then you were like, do you, are you into collect? Do you have anything that you collect? And I started talking, and you were like, oh, I want to talk about this on the show. Oh, yeah, yeah, I have a show. Oh, you have a show. Oh, I didn't know. I have a show. It's called Dignation. Yeah, it's called Dignation.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I should join it. Okay, you can see where we're going this episode. All right, first episode, first story of the day. How are we on the first story? Good God. Peter Steinberger joins OpenA.I. This is the creator of OpenClaw. He joined Open A.I.
Starting point is 00:14:12 You didn't know that? It's crazy. Yeah, so. Wait, does that mean Open A. Wait, it's an open source thing. It's open source. So is it still open source? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Okay. They wanted his mind to work on this, and they're going to give him resources. And apparently, he said every single VC, every single, like, Facebook, obviously, Zuck, Meta, everyone was trying to get him to bring this kind of thinking to, because AI is kind of searching for, they always thought it was like one model to rule them all. And now they're realizing it's actually a little bit more nuanced than that. It's all about these like little subagents working together. and the orchestration of it all. And he was the first with OpenClaw to really kind of kick off this whole new world.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So for those that don't know, do you want to just give a quick little primer of what OpenClaw is? Yeah, so the best way to describe it is that if you haven't played with this, I will say, and I said this, it's funny, I look back on, it's weird because he did a podcast recently
Starting point is 00:15:11 where his founder of OpenClaught said the number one thing that you can be doing right now in AI is tinkering. And I had said that probably a year and a half ago, on a video and because I believe like you're betting against the future if you're betting against AI and I know that at least on dig we have a lot of anti-AI people that are you know and rightfully so I think it's a little more nuanced I don't think it's always that people are completely anti-AI I think they have very specific borders of what it can be helpful like I even saw a post
Starting point is 00:15:39 today about that somebody say hey medical field awesome let's let's use it figuring out patterns for how to cure disease that sounds amazing posing as humans and trying to do this that, that's not cool. Taking art and inspiration and removing the people from the creation of it. So I think it's a little more nuanced than just they're opposed to. I think they have very specific boundaries of where they want to see it occur. And it's different for everybody, right? Like there are certain things that I've talked about on the show where, you know, we've talked about the kind of the magic eraser feature that Android has, where you can erase like artifacts in the background. And for me, I'm like, when you look back on that photo 20 years from now,
Starting point is 00:16:19 There's no way you're going to be like, I'm so glad I removed that weird little thing because it's the little intimate details that bring that make this so interesting. Like some of my childhood photos, I remember the first little tiny miniature girlfriend that I had. Tiny miniature girlfriend. Wow. Yeah, this is a really unique experience. You fighter in the forest in Scotland? They were both in kindergarten. Oh, so a tiny little.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Yeah, it's like I was holding hands with her and I can put this, I can find this photo for you. I said it over. Please. But one of the things that I was always so curious about is, like, looking in the background, I was like, oh, what were the toys that were back there? What was the furniture and decor like? What was the creepy guy looking through the window? Exactly. I believe we call that Wabi-sabi.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Wabi-sabi. Yeah. It's the little imperfections that make life so unique and so beautiful. Exactly. And so I worry that we lose a lot of that with AI. But anyway, long story short, what is open claw? What does it do? It is essentially an application that.
Starting point is 00:17:17 that says, okay, we're instead of creating and treating AI like it's one big prompt, where you can say, hey, give me the best recipe for this. Yeah. It's more like an orchestrator of smaller little individual questions that you can give it tasks that are long running. So you can say, hey, like my buddy has it where, well, think of it this way, it can extend when you install on a Mac menu, you give it kind of an isolated environment. You can say, I want to give it privileges over all different types of things.
Starting point is 00:17:47 in my life, my calendar, my email if you're brave enough, my text messaging, or you can create its own individual text messaging account. You can have it create podcasts for you. You can have it, like, look at news articles and find stuff that you might be really into. And so
Starting point is 00:18:03 what my buddy does is he has it so that it calls him like on his drive, like, in the morning, he picks it up and it's like, hey, here's your like briefing for the day. I like, look through emails. There are three things I found and blah, blah, blah. and you might be interested in these news stories
Starting point is 00:18:20 because you start to kind of build a memory with it and it learns what you wanted to do. But the point being is that it's extendable in any way that you want. And I think now you're the ones probably use this most out of all of us here. How are you using it? What have you found it useful for?
Starting point is 00:18:36 Exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, it just becomes this extra layer of extra personalized AI. I use it a lot to deploy multiple agents to do things that are interconnected with like APIs like to-doist and my Google calendar and I keep DocuSaurus accounts going. And it's just helping me with little day-to-day stuff. It's not, I don't have it connected to banking.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I don't have it connected to my email directly. It's not true. I do, but I don't let it send. I was like, that's why I got that weird email from you talking about it. Two a.m. It's just like this extra brain that is very personal. to you. What's the coolest thing
Starting point is 00:19:19 that you've had it do for you? Like what is the one thing where you're like, damn, that blew my mind? Connect calls. So I connected it to Twilio and I'll, I have it connected to telegram and Discord.
Starting point is 00:19:31 But if I'm on the run, I'll say, hey, what's the fine so-and-so company, connect the call. You could theoretically have AI interact with their AI, and then once there's a connection made,
Starting point is 00:19:43 it'll connect the call to me. So I'm not like hunting for numbers on the run. Oh, So you don't have to wait, wait, explain that to me. So you don't have to wait for? Yeah. So as soon as a call is connected to whatever, like if I'm going to Target, I'm looking
Starting point is 00:19:57 for stocking something, it'll navigate the menus for me. And once the call is connected, it calls my phone and then connects me to an actual agent. Oh. So you don't have to sit on wait, wait, line. I mean, that in of itself is amazing to be like, hey, call BMW. I want to check my, if I need my brakes, looked at. Fluffed whatever you do with breaks on a BMW But it's the stuff that we've talked about before
Starting point is 00:20:21 Where it's like at the end of the day A lot of this AI stuff can be incredible technology But it's the user facing side of the house That I think needs a lot of innovation on that So it's like the way people instrument a lot of these things is like You could just text your agent Like through your traditional text messaging And so you can assign tasks and it can understand these things
Starting point is 00:20:40 But it can troubleshoot while you're there So it's just like firing up your messages app Or Discord or WhatsApp and just talking to it and just saying like, hey, I'm here. I've been thinking about this. Can you let me know, blah, blah, blah. And then it's like, okay, you're looking and then it's giving you updates in real time on that.
Starting point is 00:20:55 It's like that ability to interface so quickly and so easily, I think feels a little more easy for a lot of people to grok. The setup is kind of its own thing. But I think that that is kind of what transforms the usability layer. Yeah, I think, I'm sorry. Well, I was just going to say one of the things that I sort of is like a lipness test that I'm kind of like sitting with is can I ask? the AI to get me a table at a restaurant through open table.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Oh, 100%. And to me, I'm always like, that to me is when the process is going to be correct. Because like, I feel like- By the way, you can do that right now, dude. No, I know, but that's what I mean. It's like, we're there. But it also takes setup, right? Like, I can't just ask ChatGPT to do that.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yes, you can. What? Yeah, you can go to agent mode and turn on, it'll go and browse on your behalf and go and do all that. But again, there is a spin-up to get some of that all working. Yeah, it's kind of that way with a lot of these companies. Like, it's like, again, it's that whole, it's not one model or one app to rule it all. Yeah, there's a leak back
Starting point is 00:21:51 there. So we kind of pocket. No, no, no, that's good. I just wanted to make sure. We wanted some grit me off. First, yeah. Well, first off, I feel like one of the things when it rains in Southern California is it's basically the first time anybody checks in like seven years, whether they have a leak in their room. Right, exactly. I've had
Starting point is 00:22:07 so many friends. The number of 911 calls, yeah. Fuck, I have a leak. We did periodically. We had a skylight fall through. Like, one of those, like, you know, those little, like, they're almost like light wells, I guess. It in our bedroom hallway, thankfully, it was in the bedroom hallway.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Started leaking one night. This is like a couple years ago. And it finally just went and came in. And it was just a giant hole in the roof. And it was raining in it. You gotta get up there. You ready? Did you get up there?
Starting point is 00:22:34 Because it was like three o'clock in the morning. I would. I stuck an umbrella through it. And then opened it. And then I hung a kettlebell on it. Whoa. And then I woke up in the morning and I duck taped around the thing.
Starting point is 00:22:47 and then I called a roof guy. Holy shit. Because I was just like, how the hell do I plug this giant hole? OpenClaw will do that for you. Open call will do that for me. I'll be like, quick, text message the AI agent. He was like, I don't have arms. The way, I went to the clock invention.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. In NSF, and they had a robot that was walking around that was powered by open clock. Like it was a Boston Dynamics, like dog robot. It was like walking around. And one of the people there told me that, It was powered by it and it was monitoring the alcohol. And there's this new website where you can like hire humans to do any tasks.
Starting point is 00:23:25 The AIs can hire humans. And they pay in stable claims. Wow. It's literally holding on itself. It bought alcohol and brought it into the thing because it detected and opened the fridge and shit and looked and saw that we're low. And then it ordered more alcohol for the party. What the fuck? Oh God.
Starting point is 00:23:44 We need that for Dignation. Hell yeah. Robot dogs. It'll get us booze. Yes. Be like, you guys need to eat. You're too drunk. Here's pizza.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Thank you. Robo Miotics. More T-biotics. Oh, my God. I've had an interesting pattern now. Over the last couple months, if a service does not have API or MCP server access, I'm switching away from it at this point.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Yeah, exactly. Because I can't control it externally with agents. Interesting. Well, that's the whole thing. It's like what's happening is all these walled gardens are being dissolved. Because if you have full browser access, like, for example, do you know when you go on Amazon, it's like, hey, your courier is five stops away from your, like, you know, your house. I don't think if you've seen that where it's like, oh, it might be there in like a few minutes. The agents can now open a browser, see that and be like, oh, I see that you're halfway across town.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Just so you know, you might miss that package if you're not there within the next 20 minutes because of what I'm seeing. There's no APIs even required for that to have that happen. But you're right, like it's going to be way more efficient. It's just going to be agents talking to agents. Yeah, yeah. Like, oh, Kevin should turn around and go home because UPS is going to be there within five minutes. Like all of that shit is just going to like happen automatically.
Starting point is 00:24:58 It's so crazy. Good Lord, man. This is so cool. I'm going to go to my second story. Yes, go for it. I'm going to skip around because I feel like this is apropos. Kung Fu Robots deliver knockout performance at spring festival gala. This was submitted by D. Pro 9.
Starting point is 00:25:16 First off, look at this. And I ask you, sir, of all the things we could train robots to do, why are we training them to do kung fu? Right? And then look, they come out and they're like, let's fight. Humans fighting robots.
Starting point is 00:25:48 You can't today. Not in 36 hours. Not in 36 hours. Yeah, absolutely. First of all, that one was crazy. That one could do something I can't do. I can't do that. No, I couldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:26:01 That, that, couldn't do that. I could do a lot of this. I could do that. You could, I could totally do that. You can't walk backwards like that. I could run backwards and then yee over it. Look at that. I could do what that kid did.
Starting point is 00:26:14 That? I could do that. I used to be able to do that. Okay. No, you didn't. Yeah, I can't even squat that low. That's the other thing. Oh, they're doing drunken monk fighting.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Jesus. This is one of my favorite styles. Have you ever seen the Jackie Chan movie, the drunken monk? Yes. A drunken master, I think. Yeah, I know you're talking about. God, that, that, I love that form of martial art because it's just so fun and funny and also effective if you do it right.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I just hate that these guys don't have any heads. They have heads. They're clear, though. By the way, their head is literally just like one of those like snuba masks that people have drowned in Hawaii. You know what's really weird though is why are they making them look like humans? Like, if this was just like a star like with all the other. these like little, like pointing things out.
Starting point is 00:27:02 You mean an actual murder bot? Yeah, like, why not just, like, look at it's like Star Wars. Why not just make it a murder bot? Yeah, exactly. Because I think, this is why I don't understand what we're teaching it martial arts at all. Like, you should, I understand Boston Dynamic teaching it how to like
Starting point is 00:27:18 pick a box up and put it in or like screw Bolton. Oh, that's like the boss mode. Oh, look how fucking tall he is! Oh, God. How would you build a giant one? No, Lord, too. Why would you build a giant? Why wouldn't you? If you can already build the small ones, you'd build a giant one.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And why aren't you building mini ones? By the way, a little one would be cute. A thousand percent, if we ever got into a war with China, they would just send those. They would just send those. I know. And it wouldn't be pretty. But like they're so nice.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I feel like battle bots has to get like way better than it is. Oh, 100%. Oh, dude. Battlebots? By the way, if one of these guys showed up to a battlebot competition and just walked in and picked the battlebought bought up and just threw yeated it over the thing it's like I guess China won again but it begs the question what it would you train them in Kung Fu of all things why I mean Kung Fu
Starting point is 00:28:11 is like massage therapy well Kung Fu is like there is a time in place oh my God is that cheating to get a massage from a robot with lotion snap I don't know what that means but by the way it was a really good ska band in the 90s lotion snap you know what that means I mean I can I want to infer what that means. I've never heard that term. Never heard the term. Shut up. Again, by the way,
Starting point is 00:28:35 I'm sorry my moral compass. No, this is all because Kevin grew up in Vegas. Oh, yeah. Yes. I don't accept that. I don't accept it. You have never been to a massage. Nope, facility.
Starting point is 00:28:50 No, no, but you have to understand. I don't like massages. I don't like massages. Oh, yeah. I get that. I mean, I don't understand it, but I get it. Yeah, thank you. How people can be.
Starting point is 00:28:59 But I'm just saying, like, how great would that be to have, like, a professional, like, masseuse robot? They'll be so great. Because I'm always going, fuck, I should get a massage. I'm really, like, it didn't work that. And my fucking shoulders. But then it's like, I just never, when am I going to pull the trigger? I don't think that would work for me because when I get a massage, I think I'm more thoughtful about their experience with me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:20 But if it was a robot, you'd be like, then I'll give you. Right, right, exactly. Because I just like, I'm like, hey, I'm sorry. I know this isn't your best massage you had to give today. You got somebody you're looking forward to. I'm sorry about this. Like, this is what I got. This is what I'm working with.
Starting point is 00:29:32 I get you. I feel like it's a little more about that. So if it was totally human eyes, that way, I feel like, you're just talking about a therogun. No, no, no, no. But, like, do you? Therrigan still needs a person to, like, find the thing and put it in the thing. A robot.
Starting point is 00:29:45 It's manual simulation. Exactly. I want some computer simulation. Do you really want robots to massage you? I would, sure. I would be 100. I wouldn't you? I'd be down.
Starting point is 00:29:55 What do you think about those chairs are in the mall? What do you think those chairs are in the mall? there's an early form of it. It's a ring fall in one of those. I got to say those boots that you zip up with the little air in them. Oh, now you're going to do that. So you're going to take care of your feet.
Starting point is 00:30:09 You're just not down with them taking care of. Nah, dude, all. Well, first of all, it depends on how they look. Remember that foot massage in the goddamn in Japan? Oh, God. We got, took our feet off. Jesus Christ. What if the, is it,
Starting point is 00:30:23 let's not go here. I have a feeling I knew what you were going to. to say and it does not need to have any kind of human aesthetic. That, to be honest, that's the thing is like, it's like the robo barista, but for massage, right? Like that, it doesn't have to look like a dude with a fucking samurai pon and a like little hat that makes my coffee.
Starting point is 00:30:45 It could just be a mechanical arm. So when, you know, I'm getting massage, it could be literally anything. Here we go. All right, let's get to our sponsors. The first sponsor of the day. It's brought to you by Mercury, the financial platform for the people who expect
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Starting point is 00:34:24 Yes. I see you've switched over to Shampers. Justin was kind enough to provide the juice. Sweet, sweet, sweet. Is this the, tell us about the hack from Costco. I don't know if it's true. But from what I know, there are only so many castles in the world that make champagne in the specific Champagney area of the world.
Starting point is 00:34:47 And from what I am understanding, the place that Kirkland's signature is made is also the same facility that makes the Vuv. Now that said, facility could mean anything could be the runoff. It could mean in the trenches of it, wherever it is. But to me, if I'm going to buy a bottle, I mean, VIV is fine. It's reasonable. But Kirkland's signature, it's a 10% hit for a 50% decrease in the price. And I think the math works out right there, which is why I go to say, maybe it's not the champagne you want to sip on necessarily by itself in isolation. You want to throw it in a mimosa. You want to have yourself a little time. You want to make a little French 75. Yeah, Kirkland signature.
Starting point is 00:35:25 It'll do you right. We need a new sponsor. Oz the God. We came out of the sponsor section. I was like, you know another sponsor section. It felt like a Costco read. Oh my God. Like straight up unprompted Costco.
Starting point is 00:35:36 But I will tell you, dude, Costco, I just went and I got one of, they do the trimmed tenderloin, the whole tenderloin. Oh, Jesus. Are we really doing Costco? I love that. But also, by the way, don't fuck Costco. Agree. Don't fuck Costco. Because the other thing is, Heather loves white wine, drinks white wine.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I know. I know you need to get your Costco. Here's the thing. Makers. She doesn't love a lot of white wine. She's got a very specific palette. And I was at Costco and I bought a bunch of white wine. And I bought Kirkland has an Italian pino grigio that's fucking $5.60 a bottle.
Starting point is 00:36:13 So I bought a couple bottles. And I opened one. Listen. Listen. Listen. No. But, and again, it's just because I want to make sure that had like, like, Maybe she likes it.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Did you blind taste us? I did. Order some wine. And I said, try this one. She was like, ooh. She goes, yeah, this is really nice. And I go, 599. She was like, what?
Starting point is 00:36:32 And I was like, yeah, it's Kirkland from Costco. She was like, God damn it, because she likes it. Yeah, but I was like, but that's great because it's so hard. I'll buy like these really, not nice bottles of wine because I don't buy like a ton of nice white wine because she usually just goes, ugh, I hate it, dumps the bottle and then pours herself Jack Daniels. And I'm like, dude, we got to fix this. We got to fix this. Well, there you go. Costco, where affordability
Starting point is 00:36:53 meets quality. Kirkland Pino-3. There's one more Costco thing, which is, I just want to make sure, Kevin, you love good kicks. Did you not see the Kirkland Signature Court Classics that came out that was like an entire, like, meme of people like buying out? No. Was this on Dig? I don't know. I don't think I saw that story making its way on it.
Starting point is 00:37:13 How long ago was this? This was maybe two or three weeks ago. Okay. But you got to check them out. I'm just saying, I think you're going to love him. I think you're really going to line. Is he fucking with me? You love dad's shoes, that's all.
Starting point is 00:37:23 You just love dad's shoe. Kirkland, signature. What is it? I think they're court classics. Just say like Costco shoes sold out. And I'm telling you, there was like a run of shoes they came out with that like went really viral. Okay, sold out. The court classics, yes.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Okay, here we go. Let me take a look at these. You love dad's shoes. Yeah, I mean, these are horrifically. They're horrible. Yeah, but I'm totally into these. Yeah, this is it. You wear, ironically, but now you've started liking them.
Starting point is 00:37:54 So for the record. Yeah, those are Steve Jobs shoes. I know. Every time you get an opportunity, you've told it. I think it told me eight times. All right. Let me just take these off here for a second. These are the actual shoes that Steve Jobs wore on stage.
Starting point is 00:38:08 They stopped making him about seven or eight years ago. Oh, not literally by shoes. No, not literally his shoes. But they stopped making this exact design. This is the exact design that he wore on stage. And you have to buy them on the secondary sites now. And they're retail. But listen, this is the one.
Starting point is 00:38:26 This is actually the one. Ethan sent it to me. It's on, it's on Stockex. No, no, it's these. Oh, whoa, those are dope. Yeah. Those are Nike's Nike Kirkland signature. How do you feel about that?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Ethan, thank you for the assist. Thank you for the assist. That's amazing. They're not even ironic at this point. They're actually incredible quality, which is what Costco always guarantees. Oh my God. Dude, if we don't get Costco. Yeah, Kirkland, we're fishing.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Yeah, we're fishing. And by the way, I would love to have some 20% off your meat store. Here we go. I got to say that their crap things are fucking great. I made fucking chicken stock. I did the fucking Chris, I think I talked about it on the last episode, made some fucking Maksaball stew again. It's been great.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Do you know my buddy makes like $100,000 a year just by flipping the gold at Costco? Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Anyway. All right. All right. What are we on?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Your story. All right. Third story. Third story of the day. Here we go. I would like to talk about AI. Fails at 96% of jobs. This is a new study.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Okay. Artificial intelligence has been hailed as one of the most transformational technologies of the century. Yes. That may be so, but not yet. In this episode, we take a look at a study that pits humans directly against AI for paid work. The results were surprised. So 96% of jobs they did this wide reaching kind of survey and test case against AI. Humans could do better.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Now, here's the funny thing. A lot of people look to this and they were like, yeah, so AI is not good as humans. And I'm like, okay, what's more disturbing? The fact that these high-end models just hit like three years ago, and we've already taken up like 4% of all-year-of-all-human work. human work? Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:40:21 yeah. Like, 10 years from now, are we looking at the curve? Oh, dude. 10 years. Like, like,
Starting point is 00:40:27 10 years. The funny thing is, like, people are like, yeah, see, and I'm like, dude,
Starting point is 00:40:33 you're missing the point. The point is that this is going to be, I'm really worried more, more so than I was even like a few months ago. It was all jobs. It was interesting, because Peter,
Starting point is 00:40:43 what's his butt, the guy who did OpenClaw. Yeah. I saw a quick little video of him being interviewed on a podcast, and he was mentioning this thing that I've been talking about for, I mean, a year, year and a half, about the whole concept of sort of software-less services,
Starting point is 00:41:03 where at a certain point, and I think we're getting very close to it. So he was saying, like, your fitness apps don't need to exist. Because what's going to happen is you're going to have your agent. When you walk into the gym, it's going to know you're walking into the gym. It's going to be like, hey, make sure to tell me how much weight you're doing and what reps. And then it'll be like, hey, you're a little low. Yeah, or you just set it up and it calculates all that stuff from watching you. I've already built that with my open club.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Right, but I've been thinking about that because I have, I use stronger on the gym to track like my one rep maxes and all that stuff. They don't have API. They don't have MCP server. Yeah. See, this is the whole thing. Like the Monday.com stock like took a huge tank because everyone was realizing everyone can recreate this in like a day. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:41:46 It's interesting because. How did this class get beer, you fucker? You Costcoed me. Yeah, you got Costco. Yeah, it's a 99 cent hot dog. That's what you got right there. Oh, God, their pizza is so good, though. I know.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Dude, welcome to Costco. It's great. And it's not that crowded. The thing with Costco, why we're going to be Costco? Stop. Talking about. We're going back.
Starting point is 00:42:06 By the way, AI is not coming for Costco. It is crowded. It's fuck when you win there. No, but it feels crowded when you see it. When you first get in, yeah. And then you just got to go, I'm going to be here for as long as I'm going to be here. And you also get the few little snacks.
Starting point is 00:42:18 And by the way, I'm usually. in and out and it's not that bad. Dude, my dad needs to feed me at Costco. That's neglect. No, he would take me Saturday mornings. My grandparents lived in San Diego, and they would go to Price Club, which was one of the original ones,
Starting point is 00:42:33 and she had to have, like, a business license to get in. Oh, my God, it was, like, Charlie and the Chocolate factory. What were the good, like, little samples? They didn't really do samples, but, like, you used to be able to get this thing. Oh, God, I wish it existed. And I don't, if anybody out there remembers this or has any context of what this is.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Costco Price Club, back in the day, used to sell string cheese. And it was a giant block of cheese. It was about this side. No, no, no, no, no. It was about this size. Yeah. And you would peel off the chunks.
Starting point is 00:43:05 They still have that. They do not sell that. I've never seen it anywhere else. Whole Foods has it. It's a big bundle of wrapped together string cheese. No, no, no, no. It's not the mozzarella twist. Oh, it's not okay.
Starting point is 00:43:15 It literally was like a column. It looked like Superman's Fortress of Solid. because it had like, it was like octagonal imprint on the top and imprint on the bottom. And you literally peel off an entire piece of string cheese, like a thing of string cheese. Fucking love that shit when I was growing up. Sounds good. Anyway, back to AI. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:34 What we're talking about? I don't know. Jobs, jobs. Jobs, yes. Jobs, yes. But no, but he was saying any, basically any app where all it is is a store and processing of data doesn't need to exist. because it and it's not he's not wrong because it's like AI can just track that information for you,
Starting point is 00:43:54 can store it somewhere and then read that thing it can give you insight based on it and to be fair probably better than a piece of code that was written five years ago. Yeah I know that's why I think I just people are so fixated on this like next three six eight months and just zoom out for one second and say five years from now
Starting point is 00:44:14 you will literally be able to go hey I'm walking into the gym I know we've never talked about this before, but I need a workout program. You're watching me, and who knows what the interface is going to be at that point. It could be AirPods with freaking cameras on them that point at the mirror or whatever,
Starting point is 00:44:31 and it will do everything and store it and keep it and track it and chart it and give you graphs and all the things, and there will be no need. Because he's got the glasses, yeah, everything. Exactly. It's seed. Exactly. But this is like, I'm saying five years
Starting point is 00:44:47 and I'm being like, that's like generous. Generous. Yeah, yeah. This idea of the personalized software era is upon us. Well, by the way, we're almost already to the Star Trek. I just talk to the computer. I go, computer, what's the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We're already there.
Starting point is 00:45:05 No, but I mean like, but then have it action and do things on your behalf. Like, that's the place where we're going to get. The funny thing is, is like, so we have Alexa's in the house. and first off I just this is so fucking fun I was making eggs and Heather was in the back room and usually I have to be like
Starting point is 00:45:26 breakfast and then walk in breakfast until we get closer and finally I'm like breakfast oh okay cool I'll be right there and then I was like you know what fuck it we have Alexis all over the place
Starting point is 00:45:35 I go Alexa broadcast would you just say the word breakfast on every device in this house and she goes okay and I just hear Heather go from the back room and she comes in
Starting point is 00:45:47 She was like, that was the most, that was the funniest thing that's ever happened in my life. I was literally just sitting in the back room. And I just heard, Alex says, breakfast. And I was like, that, but like, Alexa now has this, like, AI layer that they put in for free. Yeah. Was it Alexa Plus or something? It's Alexa Plus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:04 They put me in for free because I was like, I'm not paying for this. But to be fair, it's kind of nice to be able to go, I'm just going to ask this thing a question that I would ask, I would pull my phone out and ask, chat Chibi T or I would ask Google, you know what I mean? It's like I'm just going to ask the air and it's interesting to talk about things like OpenCloud because it's like it would be nice to have that not be something that's owned by
Starting point is 00:46:27 a giant massive conglomerant company that wants my soul. It's going to be I put mine on top of my home assistant server so now it's made Alexa Blee because home assistant does everything now with OpenClaz on top of it and talking to it there's no need for a life. I have yet to
Starting point is 00:46:43 even scratch the service. We talked about it a couple months ago where you were like I'm using AI to help me build you know stuff into script like build the yamilmiles yeah yeah yeah yeah but you just ask it like I'd like to have this happen and it's like okay put this in home assistant I can love a home assistant man so great all right let's keep going oh yeah let's keep going uh so back to my first story because the we gave Chinese people or or training combat robots for some reason yes Apple sends in for a special Apple experience event, March 4th in New York City.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Rumor suggests an M5 MacBook Pro, entry-level iPad Air, and iPhone 17E. This is submitted by Emil. Here's the reason why I wanted to bring this up. I'm excited for the M5 MacBook Air. Is it air? But, like, think about your excitement level. High to medium. High, high to medium.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Because I feel like I have not been excited for an Apple announcement. I mean, I've been excited because I'm like, ooh, an Apple announcement. But none of the announcements have lived up to the pre-hype of things. The, like, iPad or the iPod color, the iPad. Remember when we talked about the iPad, like, what is the iPad going to look like? The iPhone, we talked about what could possibly be the iPhone.
Starting point is 00:48:04 I remember we were thinking, like, it's going to have two batteries, one for your iPod and one for the phone. You know what I mean? Like, there's so much shit. All of that was so excited. The new Apple TV program when it came out. It was like, oh my God, this is all, I feel like it's been since the Vision Pro, which, by the way, I was excited about until five minutes afterwards.
Starting point is 00:48:23 And I was like, wait, do I really want that? But while it was happening, I was like, this feels like one of those moments. I just feel like now all these Apple things are like, it's a MacBook. It's a little faster. Okay. You know what I mean? Okay. It's the cheaper version of the iPhone 17.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Okay. We haven't had a big, if you think about the little. last time Apple dropped a major game-changing product? Yeah, like Apple Watch maybe? Maybe. Probably the iPad, honestly. It has felt away for a very long time with a phone. So you were saying the AirPods. I was saying the AirPods to me were a product level innovation
Starting point is 00:49:04 that I think actually fundamentally changed the way we think about headphones. Okay. I think you could argue the AirPod Pro Max, not the case. But I will say for the phone, I think it is like every year it is the most minuscule update and typically I feel like they do put a lot into the camera and as somebody who like I'm just not a photographer it's like I'm sure it's nicer but that's that's really the only thing I'm getting and then now we have liquid glass and that's just its own thing yeah it's interesting but so you think iPad might have been the last I mean I just can't think of anything that have they've dropped that I've been completely blown away by because like I've stopped watching them like I'm
Starting point is 00:49:44 Yeah, unless it used to be such a thing where we're like, oh, I would have multiple, like, different text chain group where they were like, we're all watching. People would be like, oh, my God, I can't believe they just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now it's like, okay, so there's another Apple announcement. I'll read the brushstrokes and. Yeah, they like change the island. They got the floating island. They had the notch before that. It really does feel like that's general.
Starting point is 00:50:08 It's the format has stayed the same for a good amount of time. They move around the little notch where they got to hide it. And outside of that, it's very... Liquid glass is horrible. It's so bad. By the way, it's so 19. It's like 2005. It's like the original bubble.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Remember the bubble text with the like... Oh, it is. That was better. At the end of the day, it feels like a gimmick. And I think that's the irony of all this. It was like Apple did the gimmick in the beginning when they first came out with the iOS stuff. It was like the first like dimensional thing. But it was kind of like we look back at the skeuomorphism and we're like, oh, that's cool because it was the time.
Starting point is 00:50:39 But they had to show you. No, no, you touch this screen like it's a physical. objects so everything felt physically. And now that they're kind of going back into it, it's like, oh, there's like nothing left in the chamber right now, huh? Like, this is what you guys are doing right now. It seems, it seems like that, right? Doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:50:56 It's like, there's nothing about, it's going back for no reason. There's nothing timeless about it. I think they look back on liquid glass and be like, wow, that was a gimmick. Nobody's going to, nobody's going to love that stuff. But it's just, it's just sad. It's just interesting that we're sort of in this place where the big Apple special announcement thing is like, Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Well, do the, like the invidia events and the opening eye events and the Claude events, so they're like way more interesting to me now than any Apple. But it's crazy, too, because like, I feel like there's stuff happen. It is, it is ramped up so fast. There's stuff, like, all the seed, uh, deep seek. Yeah, yeah. Something around that I came over with Seed Spark or whatever it was called, where like the new video generations, seed dance.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Whoa. I know. That stuff came out and I was like, oh my God. And by the way, that's the first real. time when all of the big companies are coming out, like the Warner Brothers and Disney and all that stuff are coming out and basically, like, Disney sent them a cease and desist and said,
Starting point is 00:51:54 you're using our IP. And it's like, at the end of the day, that fucking ship sailed two years ago, three years ago. You did see the article today that's big, like what's trending on dig is an article about bite dance acknowledging they're going to pull back. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. But again, it just feels like for how long,
Starting point is 00:52:12 though? Like at the end of the day, there's no point. the G8 back in the bottle. You can fight against some of that stuff as long as you want. And it's nice to be an arbiter to defend the creative side of it. But I don't see it going yet. Yeah, I mean, it's essentially the early like Napster days of MB3s where everyone's like, remember when Metallica came out and they're like, fuck, digital music?
Starting point is 00:52:31 And then even the Beatles were like, we're never putting our stuff on digital. It's like, eh, you kind of have. You're going to. You're going to. All right, let's talk about Monarch. Monarch is one of our favorite sponsors because I've been using them for several years now. It is 2026. That means it is a new year.
Starting point is 00:52:45 It's a new you. And it is very easy to lose track of how you spend money. For me, Monarch has been so helpful because I tie in all my different accounts that I have. And it gives me one dashboard to set budgets for 2026 that can feel realistic. You can set them and you can say, hey, I want to spend this much on clothing this month. I want to spend this much on food this month, on takeout, whatever may be. It is awesome. Takeout.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Dude, you and me, I was going to, I said that it was going to. What's your worst? What's your worst thing you spend on takeout? Worst thing I spend on takeout? Like most money you spend on take it. Like, for me, I do, I do coffee in the morning. You do coffee in the morning? I like a lot to you from Blue Bottle. It's good.
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Starting point is 00:54:31 I don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People don't know that. Can I say this? Yeah. Like, I don't, I, dig does not pay me to do any sponsorships. I just do this for because I'm... Sport of the company and time.
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Starting point is 00:55:37 Winding down after long days, you're going to eat. Winding up after short days. For the next, winding up after short days. My favorite thing to do. Listen, there's both winding. It goes one way. Up, winding down. You need to be ready for the next morning.
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Starting point is 00:57:18 So if you are unsatisfied for any reason, they will refund your money, no questions, ask thank you Zbiotic. A couple things. One is like, I think people will get entertainment value into this. We don't have to keep talking about Z biotics because we're done with a sponsor, we're done. But I will tell you, my sister, she said, she was like, I'm not even joking. She was like, I got it with your code.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Amazing. is like, I feel so much better. It really does fucking work. It does. It's weird because it's so hard for me. So many people over the years have been like, oh, you guys are just getting paid to talk about this. I'm so grateful that at this point in our lives,
Starting point is 00:57:57 we get to actually talk about the shit we love. And this stuff actually works. Anyway, I don't have anything else to say other than the... Well, by the way, speaking of this stuff works, yeah, put it back. You said you were going to you. No, no, it's open? No, I already opened it in here.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Okay. All right. Let's talk about element. Another one of the- Do we have any elements right now? Oh my God, I would love some element right now. So here's the deal with element. Element is been something I've been using for a very long time.
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Starting point is 00:59:03 I used to me. Ooh, a little bit. A little bit, but it's fucking hot as balls up in here. It's hot. Okay, it's great for athletes. Heavy shorts like Alex. Fasting. Keto, low carb. Here's why it works. It maintains a proper fluid balance. It supports energy and brain function, muscle performance, and sleep, and it prevents over hydration issues from drinking only water. So it helps reduce cramps and hydration headaches. So who uses this stuff? Alex does.
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Starting point is 01:00:23 like it just send them an email yeah they're easy they got you they got you boo next story next story next door the day last story from kevin logan paul pokeman card sells for 16.4 million dollars this was a shadowing the world record for rarest collapse. This was a respectable. 16.4 million. This was sent in VenaVP. So 16.4 million dollars. This was, it was like a Pikachu, right?
Starting point is 01:00:51 Like a rare Pikachu. Yeah, it was a rare peek. It was wearing it around his neck. Oh, yeah, yeah. When he went into one of the fights, I think. Yeah. Since I was a kid, I loved the idea of collecting. Like, I would get, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:08 because we would have like those, remember the total? like the Heman Toys or like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you would, like, go to Toys R Us and you'd look at the, look at the aisles and see what they had.
Starting point is 01:01:19 And they wouldn't have, like, the Donatello or whatever, and you were like, oh, man, I get one, blah, blah, blah. Like, that idea was really, I really glommed onto it, but I never had a thing that I, like, really got into collecting. Missed Magic, missed Pokemon. I was a little too old for the Pokemon, a little too old for, like, pogs and all that stuff, that was just a squant
Starting point is 01:01:42 of a generation below us. Or after us. Parks were kind of thing, yeah. But I was at a gaming weekend with some buds in Palm Springs and they brought, Disney has a Magic the Gathering type card game called Lorcahanna.
Starting point is 01:02:00 So it's basically, it's like a Magic the Gathering style, a collectible trading card game. And we played it a couple times And I was like, dude, this is all. Like, I love this. This one here, Lorcautum, the trading card game? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And I really enjoyed it. And I was like, you know what? I'll just go buy like a starter deck. And I went and I kind of weirdly caught the bug. Oh, shit. I've literally not played it since. I keep threatening to play it with Heather because I have like two starter decks now. I bought a bunch of like packs.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I've got the Lorcahont app. I'm adding the thing. It is scratching the surface, but I also don't know if it's something I'm going to continue doing. But it's super cool because it's like all these... Oh, Tinkerbell? It's all the old, like, Disney characters. Oh, shit, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:51 And so you can play all the... Anyway... Dude, this is going to be huge in like 20 years. 100%. But also, like, they'll do... They'll do custom drops that happen only if you're at the Disney parks. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:03 So there's like a whole... It's a whole thing. They're really, basically, they started... This was the one that's out right now. know, The Whisper in the World, I have a couple of those. But it's one of those things that I just was like, oh, my God, I can see how people get fucking so into card collecting and, like, hunting the different alts, like, these are the, like, epic alts and, or, I can't remember what they're called.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Variants of those things. Yeah, all the different variants. Have you seen this one or no? No, I haven't seen that. They still sell at Costco. They actually do. They do? Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 01:03:35 They did a drop at Costco, and I was like, oh, I should go fucking do some movies. And there's a comic book store around the corner, and people don't realize that they have Lorcana. So they have, like, a bunch of old decks that they just never sold because people don't know to go in. And so I was like, oh, let me just buy a bunch of these. And it's really great, yeah. That's kind of awesome. We should try it. I'll bring the two starter sets and we'll play it.
Starting point is 01:04:00 The thing is, like, right now. So, okay, let's imagine what is, what is, when was Pokemon cards created? 99. 99. Yeah, 99. Yeah. Okay, so let's call it 27 years ago or something like that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:16 27 years from now, something right now is hitting. Like, and they're going to be worth like millions of dollars. Yeah, 100%. So, like, what is that thing? Is it this? I mean, it could be because of all the things, it's Disney. Right. They're behind it, so it's going to have legs.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Like, I don't see them ever stopping this for any reason. Right. So, you know, of all the things, then maybe, oh, you know what I should do? It's I should go buy a bunch of the packs from the first run. Yes. Store has a bunch of them. Oh, really? What store?
Starting point is 01:04:50 It's the place around the corner from my house. Oh, yeah? Sure, 100%. They got a little shit? They got a fucking bunch of shit. Really? Yeah, because they were like, they bought it all because they thought little chronic, like, people were going to come in. But people were still only coming in for Pokemon and Magic Together.
Starting point is 01:05:03 They don't know that it's there. That's the whole thing is like it's always the sleepers, right? Like the shit that we like don't, we overlook it. Yeah. And we're like, how do we overlook that? That was like going to be a big thing. Yeah, just get like a pack or like a box of packs and put it in the second. So do they sell boxes?
Starting point is 01:05:18 Mm-hmm. Oh, shit. How much are they? Like 139 for a box of like a bunch of packs? I mean, that's really bad. So Eric, one of our engineers just messaged me and he said, the interesting thing about Lorcauna, this is how they're being really clever about it, is that they are trying to make it so that each of the base cards is actually relatively easy to get.
Starting point is 01:05:35 because there is a game that you can play with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really only the variance that are really, like, very prized and very difficult, but that means that if all the base cards are easy to acquire because it's relatively affordable, and it's just very low chance
Starting point is 01:05:48 to get those really, like, special ones, the base game, he said, is actually really awesome. Like, people love the mechanics of the base game. Yeah, super fun. Which is a really cool way to do it. I love that he's, like, right down. He used to work for Disney, too. He did, he knows his thing.
Starting point is 01:06:01 He knows his thing. He knows. He knows. He knows. And he earned Lord Kahn, I was like, excuse me? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'll bring some in and we'll play. But I might go back to that place and get some of the first.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Dude, let's go. But I actually think you're right, though, Kevin, where we're kind of in that stage. Like, I don't know if you saw it, it was like, within the past, like, a year or two years, it was like this strangely like Blu-Rays on the rise again. Oh. No way. Yeah, because of the fact that it was like a couple years ago, I had a hack for my, like, ICloud account, and I lost all of my movies.
Starting point is 01:06:28 My entire thousand-plus movie collection was just gone. Right. And so it's like the idea of having physical media that cannot be taken from you that is always yours forever and ever. My house burned down. Just like your house burned down. Just like your house burned down. My physical media is gone. Your physical media is gone. Well, I mean, I would say, it's bringing it up. If you, if you look at, and this is going to hurt again, if you look at comic books, this is what this is what makes comics so powerful is because the base issue of a comic is pretty easy to get. If you, if you're, following a series, you can put it in your pool list, you go to a comic shop, they've got it for you. It's the variants
Starting point is 01:07:07 that are really special. You know what I lost in the fire, right? I'm aware, but you should say it, because it helps to say it out. By the way, that means that whoever has one of those now has more value because one of them You helped them in a way. But you know what I lost though? Wasn't the first Wolverine
Starting point is 01:07:23 or the Spider-Man? Oh my God. It was the Spider-Man. I had like 20 first Wolverines. I had the first Spider-Man amazing Spider-Man, the very first one. I had the first X-Men. Oof. Like, literally X-Men number one. I lost Michael Jordan
Starting point is 01:07:37 Rookie Card. Yeah, yeah. I remember that. And the first appearance of Phoenix. Oh. And it was not expensive, but, like, you know. But you know. Sinimental value.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Was that? Sentimental value. Yeah. It was highly rain for them. Yeah. Good one. Good cover. Good.
Starting point is 01:07:52 You know, cover. Cover. And so, like, I mean, it was really hard because the X-Men, dude. Yeah, that's great. cover is so iconic and there's one less now but to your point yeah there's one less it's helping everybody else out everybody else has went up by two I got a I gotta like use some of that insurance claim money to get give me at least one of those back yeah yeah dude that's what it's all about the collection yeah oh my god anyway well as if
Starting point is 01:08:20 Logan Paul needed more money he now has 16.4 more he got his ass handed to him oh that was the best though that was the best anyway I felt bad for him a little bit really no no there you guys All right. How are we doing? I feel like we've been talking for like years. All right, we're done. You know what? We're going to save the rest for next week.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Guys, it's always great to come back. Girl, it's always great to come back. Same old joke. Never gets old. Because it's true. Until our demographics change, it will be old. Thank you so much for sitting in with us as we pound through some booze and talk about some news. Yes, Justin Digge CEO.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Thank you so much. Thank you, Justin, for coming on digging. Give us the next, uh, give us the next, uh, 30 days. Uh, well, let's see. Last week, we released GridView, which is a way to really think about how we build visual communities. So if you're building a visual inspiration community, like, and it was a pretty important one for me because I came up in the design and product space.
Starting point is 01:09:22 And so, uh, as an illustrator, like having these visual spaces like early dribble, like early Twitter when people were still using it to share work and get to know one another, a really powerful thing to really unite around. And so for us, it was, you know, we want to recognize that every community that is being stood up may have a very different intention of what they're trying to build. And so the cool thing I think about GridView is this is just our first step into the pool of saying, you run a community, you have a way that you want this to work. And it's different than just a message board. If you're looking for an inspirational community, for a home for your design community, for a home to share artwork or inspiration of other places you're finding across
Starting point is 01:10:01 the internet. This is our first foray into building into that and just know that these different view modalities and experiences for unique communities, we're only going to continue to develop and make them bigger. So whatever the community you have in mind to build here, we want to hear from you, we want to know what kind of community would you build where people can rally around you with a common interest that we can support that viewing modality or that way to consume information. So grid view is awesome. And just let you know, video posts are in active development and should be out sooner than you think. So very excited about that because this is the year of our Lord 2026 and video should be pervasive. I think tomorrow. I think tomorrow. Okay, well,
Starting point is 01:10:43 how about sooner than I, then you'll be angry about. And so that's on the way. We've got a ton of other core innovations that are coming out there very soon. It's a great time to be on dig. If you're there, it's an early time. The community is fantastic. Really, really wonderful, just showing up every day, having some of the best conversations to be a part of. And so, yeah, come on, join us. It's great. Awesome. Well, that is it for this week's edition of Dignation.
Starting point is 01:11:11 I'm Alex Albrecht. And I'm Kevin Rose. Until next time. Asa la pasta. Stay sober.

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