Diggnation (rebooted) - Miller High Life Cologne + SXSW Live Reunion Show Announced | EP 007 | Diggnation

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

Welcome back to Diggnation! We’re hanging out at Alex’s place, catching up on Thanksgiving, holiday plans, and some wild stories from the world of tech, entertainment, and nostalgia. Kevi...n breaks down his epic sous-vide-and-smoked turkey leg recipe, and we share the big announcement—Diggnation Live is coming to SXSW this March! Get ready for an unforgettable reunion.This episode dives into NASA’s delayed return to the moon, Kevin’s ride in a Waymo robotaxi, and the groundbreaking diamond battery tech that could last for 5,700 years. We also reminisce about the return of Chi-Chi’s, laugh at the absurdity of Miller High Life’s dive bar perfume, and explore everything from retro shows to cutting-edge innovation.📚 Chapter Markers:00:00 – Intro from Alex’s House02:19 – Kevin’s Sous Vide and Smoked Turkey Masterpiece08:30 – Thanksgiving Recap and Holiday Plans10:57 – Diggnation Live at SXSW Announcement15:26 – NASA Delays First Crewed Moon Mission in 50 Years37:18 – Kevin’s Waymo Robotaxi Experience in San Francisco46:18 – World’s First Nuclear-Powered Diamond Battery Unveiled52:10 – Chi-Chi’s Restaurants Return After Decades55:20 – Miller High Life’s Dive Bar Perfume🌍 Stories Covered in This Episode:NASA delays the first crewed flight to the moon in over 50 years: https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/05/science/nasa-artemis-moon-mission-landing-delays/index.htmlKevin shares his Waymo robotaxi experience as it expands into Miami: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/05/waymo-announces-robotaxi-expansion-to-miami.htmlUK scientists unveil the world’s first nuclear-powered diamond battery: https://interestingengineering.com/energy/worlds-first-carbon-14-diamond-batteryChi-Chi’s plans new restaurant openings after 20 years: https://apnews.com/article/chichis-mexican-restaurant-bankruptcy-56cb8587fd2b90656e7fd2e698596536Miller High Life’s dive bar-inspired perfume hits the market: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/miller-high-life-dive-bar-perfume👥 People Mentioned:Dan Trachtenberg (10 Cloverfield Lane, Prey): https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0870469/Jeff Cannata (The Totally Rad Show): https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1620503/Gary Vaynerchuk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_VaynerchukBuzz Aldrin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Aldrin🎬 Movies Mentioned:10 Cloverfield Lane: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1179933/Prey: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11866324/Predator: Badlands (upcoming project)📺 TV Shows Mentioned:The Totally Rad Show: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9W8ulBO3Z0BYv2UtRM0VDABlack Mirror: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085059/The Boys: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190634/Andor: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9253284/🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0bzwpvUwHNLiGqlcTCBKJZ?si=8da8435d747d4fb9📱 Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thediggnation📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thediggnationDon't forget to like, subscribe, and leave your thoughts in the comments!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ares and Andor S2 premiere invites. Whoa! What? Does that mean anything to you? That means a lot to me. Okay, so he says... By the way, this is why I love Kevin, because he doesn't understand anything that has to do with entertainment at all. Because fucking Andor Season 2 invite?
Starting point is 00:00:17 Okay, so this is from... I want to show you... Tron Aries, I believe, is the third... Tron Aries is the third Tron. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, this... We were talking about Tron. Tron Aries is the third Tron. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This, we were talking about Tron. This is a email from an at Disney.com address. So that's how I know it's legit. Oh.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Oh. Welcome to Dig Nation. Also potentially hazardous to your health. All right, moving on. Why do you have flies in your freaking house? I noticed this earlier. It's Southern California, and I have fruit. You put zombie, and you put eerie in the title,
Starting point is 00:00:51 and I don't want to do it. Dignation.com. Hello, friends and family. Welcome to Dignation episode number six. Seven. Seven. Seven? Look at that.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Lucky number seven. Yay! Yay! Cheers. That's Kevin Rose. Hi, I'm Alan Talbricht, and we are coming to you Seven. Seven. Seven. Look at that. Lucky number seven. Yay! That's Kevin Rose. Hi, I'm Alex Albrecht and we are coming to you live from my house. The location of many historical episodes of Dignation. Of the Totally Rad Show.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Girls on Film. My wife's old movie review show. I haven't been here in like... We said your yard changed. My yard changed in 2015. 2015? Well I mean it was a long time before that then. It had been like 10 years or something. Well yeah, because you had moved. You had moved... I mean it was probably when we stopped doing Dignation,
Starting point is 00:01:39 which we stopped in 2012 or 2013? No, 2012. Because we got married in 2013. We didn't get married now 2012, because we got married in 2013. We didn't get married now. You and I got married in 2013. That's true. And then you got divorced quickly and got married to your now wife. Oh yes, and same with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Yeah, it was very... It was a weird night in Reno. It was Reno. We always talk about Reno. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't talk about Reno. That would be amazing if it came out that you and I got so drunk. I mean, that's the drunkest I've been in my entire life, but that you and I got so drunk.
Starting point is 00:02:07 We just got married. We got married without knowing it. And then we're like, oh my God, we legally can't get married to our wives because that would be hysterical. I mean, you know what? God bless. God bless. God bless.
Starting point is 00:02:18 How was your holiday? It was good. Very chill. So I did the Thanksgiving thing at home. I will say I'm very proud of my meat. I took... Yes. I took... it's not... it's two large turkey legs.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And not a turkey? No, I just... here's the deal. I like the dark meat. Oh, Kevin. And I went... Hello. I went, hello. I went two large turkey legs. I get that. I'm more of a breast man, myself. I know you are. I've known you long enough to know you're a breast man.
Starting point is 00:02:48 And some thighs. Mm-hmm. And then what I did is I sous vided them. So first I salted them overnight. Okay, great. Dry brine in the... Dry brine and then back and pack. Yep. And then sous vided them at 175 for six hours.
Starting point is 00:03:04 It breaks down all that cartilage, all that stuff. and pack, and then sous vide them at 175 for six hours. It breaks down all that cartilage, all that stuff, and then smoked them for two hours. And so I got that smokey finish on the outside. It was amazing. Like really good. So how many people did you have? Because two turkey thighs is not like a thousand. The wife and two kids.
Starting point is 00:03:23 And Toaster. And did Toaster enjoy it? Toaster actually had more than my kids did. That's not surprising. The dog's like, this is fucking great, guys. Why aren't you getting it on this? Dude, he's only got a couple years left. We're giving him whatever he wants now at this point.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Yeah, I get that. You know? Yeah, when Monty was getting on her last legs, we were like, how about in and out burpees? Sure. Dude, can we do a flashback to Monty somewhere on the couch? This is my dog Montana, who doesn't want me to be working on my laptop here, babies.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I was actually like, it hit me when you told me that Monty had passed. Oh, that's so sweet. Because like, dude, like we were talking about this before the show, but like dogs, there's been some shit in this house. I found out my dad had passed away when I was sleeping here in your house. Yes, I forgot about that. I love making the show so happy and cheerful on a Friday. This is what happens when we get old enough to have life.
Starting point is 00:04:10 We were but mere children. I'm talking about my dad dying and dogs. But honestly, Monty was a good one. Monty's there. She's the best. Crazy, but I love Monty. Yeah. You have a new dog. Where's your new dog? She's literally sleeping right here.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Can we pull her up and show her? We can. Was she in the rescue? Yeah, of course, come here Bindi. Are you lying? No, no. Is she premium or no? She's a premium bird.
Starting point is 00:04:34 So this is Bindi. So she is a chihuahua or poodle chihuahua Pomeranian. She didn't like me when I walked in. No, she just likes to bark. Okay, but if I touch her, will she bite? No, of course not. Oh, hi sweetie. She's like, I love everybody.
Starting point is 00:04:50 She gives me this evil eye. She has evil eyes. She does give me that evil eye. She's great. If you hold her like this, she'll punch you in the face. Like that's her little move. She just goes, punch. Oh, fuck that stupid Tyson fight.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Oh yeah, come on. I woke up in Paris to watch that shit. It was so dumb. Oh my god. What are you doing? I was in Arizona. Alright, go go go. You can go sit on it. So dogs, I love them. Yeah. Holiday plans. How was yours? Uh, it was good. Quick.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Fast. Quick. I went so quick. We went down, speaking of Vindi, oh my god. Yeah, where'd you guys go? We went down to my parents' house in Rancho Santa Fe. And, which is basically San Diego. Oh my god. Yeah, where'd you guys go? We went down to my parents' house in Rancho Santa Fe. And, which is basically San Diego. And my little sister has gotten two new, like purebred hunting dogs. So they have an eighth month, eighth month, eight month old Vishala.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And an eight month old German Shorthaired Pointer. No idea what they look like. They were just like, what is this small bunny we can go after? So they were just like, huh, huh, huh, and the whole time she was like, rah, rah, rah, rah. Oh, that's tough, man.
Starting point is 00:05:54 But it was fine. They ended up being chill. She played with one of them when she was like solo with one. They had a really good romp, which was fun. But how was the meal? Good to see my parents? It was actually really good. So it was great to see my parents. Gonna see them again for Christy Masks. The meal was actually really good romp, which is fun. But how was the meal? Good seeing your parents? The meal was actually really good. It was always great seeing my parents. Gonna see them again for Christy Masks.
Starting point is 00:06:07 The meal was actually really good. My mom did a turkey, classic stuffing. I will say, I've yet to sort of find stuffing that matches my classic mom's stuffing. Okay, but you love stuffing. I love stuffing, it's my favorite part. Dude, my wife doesn't like stuffing. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Dude, it's fucked up. What? It's my favorite part. Some...some... My wife doesn't like stuffing. Oh my goodness. Dude, it's fucked up! What? It's not that fucked up. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's like... Stuffing's fucking good! Stuffing's the best!
Starting point is 00:06:33 Best. What? And when you do it so simple where it's just like celery, onion. I like celery. I like onion. I like a little sausage in there though. If you throw a little sausage in there. Oh, that's interesting. So, just like a little floater.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Not too much! Just enough to where you like. Just enough sausage. Just the tip. Yeah. I get you. I get you. Just a little bit. Our friend just did a Friendsgiving and she made... Why am I flooding in your house? It's not my house that you're fighting. It's your pants.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Uh, and she made biscuit. Biscuit... Uh... Like a biscuit? No! She made stuffing but instead of bread it was biscuits. Ooh, that sounds good. Oh wait, no, it was cornbread. What am I talking about?
Starting point is 00:07:11 It's so funny. I was going to say... By the way... By the way... Now I got to try it with biscuits. Yeah. Because I was like, oh yeah, and then I was like, no, it was cornbread. Which was great, but like, think about it with biscuits.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Biscuits sounds great too. Right? I love Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving's great. What do you do? Do you have like a Christmas tradition? Uh, you know what I did the other night? Ah, this is really good, dude. I got some nutmeg.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I did, I did. But I also got some eggnog. Have you ever heard of nutmeg? No, no. Fuck! I got some eggnog. I love eggnog. Eggnog is my favorite thing.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I can't do too much, because it is like both sweet and heavy and you know it's going straight to your gut, right? Oh, 100%. That's what the holidays are for. I got some eggnog, some good eggnog. A little bit of nutmeg ground over the top. Yup, I'm in. Not first.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And then I put some Hennessy Paradis, which is a good cognac. Okay. It's not the, it's not, it's expensive, but it's not like Louis 13th because of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it makes it into a little cognac in the snifter glass. So like that big snifter glass and then a little nutmeg over top. Oh my god. Now the question is, were you wearing a crushed velvet red smoking jacket?
Starting point is 00:08:22 This was during Thanksgiving. And listening to holiday music. We did have holiday music on. Okay, that's good. But dude, you drink a little bit of that cognac with the eggnog. Oh, I'd be like, what the fuck? What are you doing? Jesus. It makes no sense to me at the end. It makes no sense. Well, it's just, it's like, it's such a dessert. But then over Christmas you're like, oh. It's because you have to give your time that much time to burn off the eggnog.
Starting point is 00:08:52 You need the other 11 months just to get back to where you were pre-eggnog. You're like, woo, I just cut the LBs down from the eggnog and it's December 12th, time to eggnog. Eggnog is too rich, it's too rich. It is. That's why it's a special gift. 100%. It'snog. Eggnog is too rich, it's too rich. That's why it's a special gift. 100%.
Starting point is 00:09:07 It's from Jesus. You can't have a lot, but thankfully baby Jesus brought us eggnog as a secret to ever-laughing life. It is. Ever-laughing life. Are you gonna be in town for holidays or are you going out?
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah, my sister and my mom are coming to visit, which is awesome. That's great. My mom. Are they up in Oregon? No, they're in Vegas now. Okay. Which is nice to have them closer. visit, which is awesome. That's great. My mom... Are they up in Oregon? No, they're in Vegas now. Okay. Which is nice, to have them closer.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's...my mom's getting up there. Every year is a gift to have her around, you know? And she gets to see the kids and... How old is she now? Gosh, man, she's 80, mid-80s, so it's like getting up there, yeah So, and a little dementia going on, thankfully not Alzheimer's, so it's like she still knows who I am. Which is like, when you think about the fucking world, why are we getting all depressed and all that shit? Bro, you started it!
Starting point is 00:09:56 I'm just saying like, on the scale of dementia, the good one is the one where they remember you, right? First off, I can't wait until we release the premium Dignation scale of Dementia. But it's the uncut version of Dignation. Just old, depressing. Just medical emergencies. Everyone that pays for our uncut version is like, oh I'm just more depressed. Oh god. Can I pay you money to not show me this?
Starting point is 00:10:21 Exactly. Oh god. Well that's good. I'm excited for that. We're going to be down in Newport and then see her brother in Orange County. So it's going to be kind of like a traveling show of Christmas. Ooh! Speaking of which, traveling shows.
Starting point is 00:10:35 We have something exciting to tell you all. Drum roll please. Here's the deal. Dignation Live. First reunion in 27 years. Yes. I wouldn't know the right number so I just made that up. That's great. It was very close.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Jim- South by Southwest. Yeah baby. Jim- Save the date, not see yes. Sorry about that. Well I think you got a little in front of the skis. Jim- South by Southwest, it looks like it's either going to March 8th or March 9th, come both days. We're gonna have fun. Yeah, Saturday, Sunday. Saturday, Sunday.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Of this year. But we're gonna blow it out. We're gonna blow it out. Go to... Oh, there's a website for it? I'm making this up in the real time. Go to Dignation.show. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And at Dignation.show, we will have a form that says it'll be something where you can get your tickets. Now here's the deal. We don't want to make money off the show, but we also want you to show up. And there's this thing where if you just say everyone gets free tickets and then people are, oh, I'm not going to go to the last minute or whatever. So we'll figure out something. It'd be like 10 bucks or something like that. Yeah, and then maybe you get like a free drink.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah, exactly. So you're not, you're paid for the drink, but you're ahead of time. We're not trying to be Lady Gaga and it's $500 ticket. No. Although you are going to have to go through Ticketmaster. No, it's not going to be Ticketmaster. That would be amazing. Actually, we should create a new Ticketmaster.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah, you should. Like, what would we call it? Ticketmaster. No, no, no. I guess we can. That's already taken. There is a bunch of new things like Partyful and there's a bunch of like... Yeah, E-Divide. No, there's ticket systems now that like exists that are not taking master. We'll use one of those sure Anyway, it's gonna be frickin great. We're gonna have so many of our like old friends
Starting point is 00:12:14 And all the people that we know we've got in the day Yeah, we've got friends that are showing up that will be on stage. That'll be awesome We've got an opening podcast that should not be named right now That that will be you have a musical guest that we're working on getting that's gonna be fantastic. Also huge. We have announcements regarding secret things that are gonna be related to things we can't talk about yet that are gonna be fucking cool. Do we have a lot of bleeping? Take your mom to a nice dinner. No, no, no. We're going to bleep that one. Yeah, we're going to bleep that one.
Starting point is 00:12:46 But, uh, uh. What am I bleeping? Don't, don't, please bleep that one. I can't. What did you say? I said we're going to wine, dine and make sweet love to your mother. If you can bleep the fact that I want to absolutely snuggle and smash. Just, just, anything I say, we want to make your mom a nice hungry man, Sal's Berry Steak TD Dinner,
Starting point is 00:13:07 turn down the lights and turn on Magden PI and see where things go. Just if that could get bleeped, thank you. All right, so. But the show is gonna be amazing. The show is gonna be great, we're gonna have so much fun. It's gonna be great. Yeah, we got a great venue that we're looking at.
Starting point is 00:13:23 We have two venues, we got someone that's helping us throw this whole thing. She's amazing. She's going to be there tomorrow. Making sure we lock down the right venue. Dude, it's going to be crazy. I can't believe... It's going to be insane. I mean, by the way, when did we... We should figure this out.
Starting point is 00:13:37 When did we get coffee and talk about me coming on your podcast just as like a lark? There is no way we would ever figure that out. I mean, receipts? Receipts. But anyway, all I'm saying is, I think it's going to be less than a year from that coffee. Yeah. That we will be not only back doing Dignation, but are going to be back at South by Southwest doing a massive live show in front of awesome people.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I know. That's crazy. I can't believe this happened. Listen, we are so excited to hang out with you guys. Like, this is not gonna be just- And see everybody. That's the point. I was gonna say, this is not just gonna be like,
Starting point is 00:14:14 Alex and I on stage, blah blah. We're gonna have musical guests. We're gonna come down, hang out. We miss interacting with a lot of you. There's like, even like, I remember going to Dignations and being like, oh, you've been to a couple of our live Dignations. Like seeing old fans and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:14:26 The old shirts from some shows. We used to do like a shirt for show. Oh yeah, we should do like some kind of special, there'll be special, all kinds of special stuff. We're going to make it special. We're going to pepper special all over the show. You better like steak au poivre. Because there's going to be a lot of pepper.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I like steak. I like steak au poivre. What is steak au poivre? Steak with pepper. Oh, I like steak. I had steak au boit. What is steak au boit? Steak with pepper. Oh, I love that. It's French. I don't speak French. I don't speak French.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I speak some Klingon. Yeah, by the way, how's your Japanese there? I'm on 110 day streak on my Italian and I cannot speak Italian. I'm on like 40 days and I can't speak Japanese. That's good. I know a few words. That's all you need.
Starting point is 00:15:08 The problem with Japanese is it's so fucking hard. It is a really difficult language to learn. I will say the thing that's great about Italian is it's very similar to a lot of the, you know, Latin languages. Yeah. Anyway, that's all that. Here we go. Here we go. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Next story. First story. Hey! NASA delays first crewed flight to the moon in over 50 years. So, first off, they announced that the Artemis program... Why is NASA still doing shit? This is the thing. This is the thing I was going to say. Stop it, NASA. Hey!
Starting point is 00:15:44 I know that I saw the news like, we're going back to the moon, and I was super excited about it. But in the world that we live in, where technology is like... I feel like every single day I'm getting crazy ass technology news to the point where I'm like, oh yeah, alright. And like the fact that NASA's going back to the moon is like, oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, I mean, okay
Starting point is 00:16:07 Like what are they doing? They're not sending it says yeah So they're gonna do so it's a manned mission to first the first is a manned mission around the moon Basically like scouted out. Which is like don't even need to do that. No way we do because it's been a long time since we've been there It's not like we can call moon and say hey remember I left my wallet there Yeah, but you can just you can just scope it like you don't need to send a person It's been a long time since we've been there. It's not like we can call Moon and say, hey, remember I left my wallet there? 16 dollars. Yeah, but you can just scope it. Like, you don't need to send a person. Why does the person need to be sitting there?
Starting point is 00:16:29 Because then they can go, hey, the person that we sent to the Moon and went around it is alive. There you go, that's true. So we're halfway there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now let's just shoot him out of the airlock, down to the surface and see if he survives that.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Yeah. Or she. So, but long story short. Good real time correction there. Thank you, I appreciate that. Or they. I'm very amazed, or they them, but long story short. It's real time correction though. I appreciate that. Or they. I'm very amazed. Or they, them.
Starting point is 00:16:48 We don't know. Them astronaut then survived. Steady. Steady. Stay on target. Stay on target. Oh, this guy is on my back! Red leader.
Starting point is 00:16:59 So, the... Trending on Twitter. The reason why... You said Twitter. The reason why... Thanks. So the... 2027. And the reason why was because when they were doing testing on the Orion space capsule, basically the thing's going to bring them back to Earth. Well those guys got stuck in space. Well that's different. I think that was SpaceX.
Starting point is 00:17:31 No that was not. That was NASA. And SpaceX had to go rescue them. That's right. But I don't know if that was specifically this. That might have just been another NASA like, oopsies. Oh no. Boeing, right? That was a Boeing space capsule. Oh was it? Boeing's been fucking up all over the place. I know, I know. Did you, Boeing, right? That was a Boeing space capsule. Yeah. I know, I know. Did you hear about that crash that just happened a couple days ago?
Starting point is 00:17:48 Oh, they just... There's another one, fucking hell. I know, well as a guy, Yeah, was it the cargo plane? Cargo, DHL, 737. Yeah, born in a series. I don't know if it was a 737 MAX. It was a MAX, I looked it up, trust me.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I researched all this shit. I know. It was not a MAX. This is not a good time to be a person who was slightly afraid of flying. I've come to terms with it, I researched all this shit. It was not a max. This is not a good time to be a person who is slightly afraid of flying. I've come to terms with it after about three shampers. That's my I don't care about death mode. Like if I'm about to get on a plane, one shampers,
Starting point is 00:18:17 I'm like, this bitch gonna go down. Two shampers, can you believe that? And I should have said that word. What? That's not a bitch. I just feel like it's not allowed. You're fine. That's fine. And then two or three at three I'm like, meh, whatever. Meh. I had a run.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I had a good run. I flew home last night, I had three, I was like, all right, whatever. I was wondering how much you'd fly. I'm still that scared. I'm terrified of it, but I'm flying on two flights in a lot of time. I'm getting better. So Addison is correct. The more I fly, the more that I get comfortable with it. Yeah, it's aversion therapy.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yeah. I will say though, as a person who's not necessarily like can kind of take it or leave it, I mean I was going to get my pilot's license. I've like flown a lot. There are those flights. I remember one vividly. I was coming back from the East Coast and it was over the Rockies.
Starting point is 00:19:09 And we hit some fucking shit that I was like, and my stomach was down and I was like, this is fucking, this could be the thing. Yeah. And for then another two years after that, every time I got on a plane I was a little bit more, vuvvvvv Clustrophobic. Can I say that? Yeah. Of course. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:26 A little lit, light, light claustrophobic. Well, I fucked you up big time in Japan. Oh, fuck that. I will never forget that fucking. I'm sorry. Fucking fuck. I really screwed him up. We were in an elevator and I'm like jumping around like,
Starting point is 00:19:38 whoo, you trapped in here. Here's the thing. It was all tight. It was a fucked up parking garage elevator. Worst elevators on the planet, right? Nobody uses those elevators. And it was like a way back. Everyone that parks in the garage uses them.
Starting point is 00:19:50 No, it was way back in the back. We were basically like, oh, I think this is an elevator. First of all, it's Japanese engineering. So you know it's just never gonna break. But the problem was, it was fucking super slow. Like the movement of the elevator was interceptible. And I could tell he was freaking out a little bit. And I was like, ooh. And I was like, ooh, we're gonna be stuck. Oh man, I the elevator was imperceptible. And I could tell he was freaking out a little bit.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And I was like, ooh! And I was like, ooh, we're gonna be stuck! Oh man, I was like, it got me. It definitely got me. I vividly remember it. For sure. Oh, I'm sorry brother. I don't mean to be absolute ass level.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Oh, it's all right. It's all right. By the way, Justin is here, and so is Addison. Hello guys. And my wife Heather. And your beautiful wife Heather is here. As we're shooting in my house, we figured we might as well allow people to come.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And Mal's here too. And Mal's here. Yay! Yay. But see, here's the thing. I feel like NASA needs to figure out how to make scientific space exploration sexy again. I just don't know who they are anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I mean, that's another problem. Every time I hear about something cool happening in space, it's SpaceX, right? And Every time I hear about something cool happening in space, it's SpaceX. Right? And it's like Elon doing something cool. And like, their rockets are freaking getting like held. And like, it's all kinds of shits happening. And then NASA's like, oh!
Starting point is 00:20:54 Like somebody's stopped her. Hey, remember we're here! Oh, we left those astronauts. I love your t-shirts. Yeah? Like the t-shirts, every time I see someone wearing a NASA t-shirt or hat, I'm like, that's cool. Yeah. Good branding.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Great branding. Just be a Shopify branding. Just be a Shopify store. Just be a Shopify store. No, you don't like, is it really getting the funding that, here's the real question, I'm not even joking now, like we can joke about everything. Is it really getting the funding to compete with a SpaceX or is it just like, are we holding on to it because of the legacy or is it actually breaking new ground? So here's the thing. Because if it's not breaking new ground, why are we even onto it because of the legacy, or is it actually breaking new ground? Because if it's not breaking new ground, why are we even funding it as a government?
Starting point is 00:21:28 Okay, so here's the thing, I will say, there's a major difference between a government organization that is doing research for research sake. Yes, which is what NASA used to be. Which is what NASA is, they're just not really doing a lot of stuff. But well, your dad knows all about this,
Starting point is 00:21:42 we should have your dad on the podcast. Actually, yeah, just call him and be like, hey, explain NASA. No, but stuff. But well, your dad knows all about this. We should have your dad in the podcast. Actually, yeah, I'd just call him and be like, hey, explain NASA. But you should tell him about your dad. No, yeah, my dad used to run the National Space Council under Bush Senior. So he was Mr. Space for many, many moons
Starting point is 00:21:55 and then ran a private sector launch company that was launching private sector satellites. It's so crazy when I went to Alex's place out in, where was it your dad has? Vienna. Was it? Or down in La Jolla. No, no, no, way out in, where was it your dad has? Vienna. Was it? Or down in La Jolla. No, no, no, way out in the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Vienna, Virginia. Yeah, Virginia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I went there and you walk in and he's got like a cool little like den kind of area, like dope. You guys still got that house? No, no, no, they moved fully. They're in San Diego now.
Starting point is 00:22:19 But he still has the den. Yeah, the den was cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you walk in and there's like all this amazing stuff that your dad has done in terms of like all the space stuff and like pictures with the president and like all the crazy stuff and like I was like holy shit like your dad was like a legit like... Still is. In space.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Like that's still an advisor and yeah yeah yeah. That's amazing. Does a lot of cool stuff. I could talk to him about this but I feel like SpaceX's job is to make money in space, which is great. We should have companies making money in space. Yes. NASA's job is scientific exploration, right?
Starting point is 00:22:53 So NASA's job is like the space telescope that was just put up, not the Hubble, the new one, I can't remember what it's called, but so it's like, you know, investigating in space and doing all the science stuff and all this stuff. And a lot of the stuff that we know and love that we use now, like aluminum foil, microwaves, and all this stuff, is all stuff that was invented. Duck tape, I think, might have been. I mean, what have we seen? Like, where's the new duck tape, though?
Starting point is 00:23:17 This is what I'm saying! Well, I'm just saying, it's been a minute since we've had a new duck tape. The Gorilla Grip, yeah. But NASA didn't invent Gorilla Tape. Their budget was $25 billion last year. Holy shit. Fucking Chat GPT. Chat GPT.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Heather over here on the side is like... HTPT over there. HTGPT. SpaceX spent less and did more on their stuff. Oh, SpaceX. Well, alright. That's a little... That's Elon. Editorialized.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Elon has that... Elon has that doge. He cuts jobs and shit. I know, I know, I know. But anyway, long story short is, I think it's important for there to be a publicly funded space and science exploration arm. As long as they're well funded and well staffed. And well that, the well staffed part is the problem.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Because everyone's going to SpaceX. If you're an engineer, and Elon's going to pay you one five. I mean this is a problem with computer science teachers and fucking background we work teachers. I know, but that's why I think that like honestly, you know how this is. So you were part of this too, where I worked at the DOE back in the day, and it was like Raytheon, like all the big contractors that came in,
Starting point is 00:24:16 and they were the ones that were responsible for developing and pushing for technology. And I figure, I feel that like at this point in time, you kind of throw up your hand and say, okay, listen, all the space stuff that we need to figure out, like let's contract that through like who has the best engineers, which is X and it's going to be probably two or three other small startups. And like, and you, that's the future. Like why build that internally? I don't know. Maybe there's something I, I something, granted I don't know a ton about where NASA is today,
Starting point is 00:24:47 it just feels like it's been a gutted kind of system for a long time. I don't know if that's coming back or not, but. I mean, it also feels like, I don't know, it feels a little rudderless, right? Like I feel like there were times when it was like, this is what we're doing. We are going to the moon, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:01 It's like JFK, we're going to the moon. In the 90s, I was like the biggest NASA fan. Oh dude, yeah. The space shuttle, building to the moon, you know what I mean? It's like JFK, we're going to the moon. In the 90s, I was like the biggest NASA fan. We all were. Oh dude, yeah, the space shuttle, building of the ISS, like that stuff to me was like, oh this is crazy. Now we've had, I mean, I can't remember, I think I talked about this on one of the other shows, like. Do you want a little whisper?
Starting point is 00:25:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it. Oh, thank you. Oh, look at that. There you go, Kevin. By the way, I shared this with your wife. I did not drink all this myself. I know. I know. Don't tell your doctor. Uh...
Starting point is 00:25:30 And then if you want... Hey, baby. Baby, do you want to just give me a... You want more? Oh, Justin wants more too. Oh, you had Whisper? You had Whisper too? Now we're going to open another one. Oh, no, the Whisper's dead. By the way, how were the RTDs? Very good. Very good. By the way, how are the RTDs? Very good.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Very good. Nice. It's pretty straightforward. Front of Mind's Company. Yeah, tell us about that. That was like... Art and Rev. You invested in that, right?
Starting point is 00:25:53 Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. It's a buddy of Mine's Company. They're full cocktail cans. Can I see what one looks like? Hey babe, bring one of the Art and Rev cans. So these were all pre-marketing. Oh, but we just got into Total Wine & More in California.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Oh nice. Yeah, so we got a couple different distribution deals. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. We're super jacked about it. But it was a buddy of ours that started it and we tried it and we were like, this is like good, this is good stuff. And then they're also doing some white label stuff. Ooh, what are these?
Starting point is 00:26:20 Yeah, so this is the Art and Rev. These are the... And that's rum and coconut. Yeah, give it a shot. So one of the things that they did was they basically said like, we got to do all natural flavored, like forget this like chemical-y stuff. Oh my god, that's good. Right! Yeah. Two cocktails in each can. That's like two for one.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh thanks! Yeah, thanks guys. Can we get a little piece of this? Yeah, yeah, I can talk to some people. We should do like a Dignation FPV. Done. Do you know what that is? Yeah, thanks guys. Can we get a little piece of this? Yeah, yeah, I can talk to some people. We should do like a Dignation SPV. Done. Do you know what that is? Yeah, so.
Starting point is 00:26:49 A little special purpose vehicle we can like invite external investors in. These are the people because we also own 10% of the distillery that like makes the actual booze. So I was gonna say, we white label, so like Addison, what you got was a special, Addison, what you got was a special partnership with a yet unannounced friend of ours that is going to be doing a sort of limited edition run that we helped blend together. And so it's one of those things where if we ever wanted
Starting point is 00:27:22 to do a Dignation ready to drink cocktail, we could just like that. Dude, you know what's funny is like we always talked about opening our own beer bar and stuff like that back in the day. Like maybe we should do something like this where we just like invite in like almost a syndicate of Dignation fans. Yeah. To like back a brand. To like own a piece. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So then they could enjoy the booze but it also makes it funny. And then you're enjoying it with us, you're also on the cap table too. That's so interesting. I love all this stuff. Anyway, lots to discuss, but NASA, I think, it's a wait and see. We're going to see how it goes. There's a new administration, we'll see how they handle NASA as it works. I think Elon's going to crush NASA once he gets in there, because Elon's got his claws
Starting point is 00:28:04 into the new administration. In a way that, we don't have to talk politics, but in a way that like, I honestly believe that Elon, obviously an insanely sharp person. I'm excited to see what he brings to the table in terms of new ideas and thinking and things like that. I think the government having people in there with elbows and sort of no one to... like, like no... I don't know. It's going to be interesting. with elbows and sort of no one to... like... like no... I don't know. It's going to be interesting.
Starting point is 00:28:29 This is what I tell my wife all the time. The other day I was like, this is going to be interesting! KRIS. She's right there. JERRY. This is what I tell her all the time. It's going to be interesting! You'll see. Good, bad, or indifferent. It's going to be interesting.
Starting point is 00:28:38 KRIS. That's exactly... It's so funny that I tell my wife who's not here. That... One of the things I do to salt the To salt the wood? No, to salt the wood. No, to salt. To soothe. That's a, oh soothe, the balm.
Starting point is 00:28:53 The balm of our relationship is that like, here's the deal, like when you throw in someone, forget Trump for a second, but like, cause we don't have to talk about that, but when you throw in someone like Elon, who is like an entrepreneur that has original kind of zero to one ideas, novel thinking, he's quite good at that. And so if that's the case, you're gonna move fast, you're gonna break stuff, and you're gonna have bad things happen.
Starting point is 00:29:15 But you're also gonna have some really cool random shit that you didn't expect that is a net positive out of this whole thing. No, no, but I really believe that. I think that you will break things and we'll say that wasn't right, and let's roll that back. But at the same time,
Starting point is 00:29:34 I think we'll see some cool stuff happen. I'm excited. I think stuff is going to be different, and different is not necessarily bad when it comes to something as sort of stagnant as the US government. I mean I grew up in the government, right? My dad worked for the government. I saw all that.
Starting point is 00:29:51 So yeah, I worked for the DOJ back in the day. You see all this stodgy grease. Oh my god. Not grease, but gunk in the machine. It is so old and outdated. This was like freaking 30 30 years ago or whatever. When I got my first job at the Department of Energy and I went on Nevada Test Site, which is where Area 51 is,
Starting point is 00:30:11 I walked into something where I was like, okay, cutting edge technology. Fucking aliens! Holy shit! Yeah, exactly. And I was like, there's fucking aliens. No, but like I walked in and I was like, wow, this is so like, there was so many people just sitting around doing like, Yeah. tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch tch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch software on their computer. I also did some of that too. But like, that's a fucking job? Like you can't, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Like one person? Yeah, but you're sure there wasn't over the internet updates? I mean, I guess that's true. Yeah, yeah, it was there. You literally had to walk them to the computer. I did, I did, I did. But it was just like I'm updating people's jobs. You're like, why am I doing this?
Starting point is 00:30:55 They're like, there's no internet. You're like, oh. Oh, right, right, right. Wait. I was the internet. You were the fucking internet. I was fucking Johnny Pneumonic with the fucking little disk and all the info that people needed. Dude, well you have a weird rug.
Starting point is 00:31:09 It's a fucking Viking rug. Don't worry about it. Question. Oh. Question to the audience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sir in the back. With the LA hat, yes. Sir, yeah. Question.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Do we have a camera on him or no? Yeah. Oh, okay, sweet, sweet. What do you think the probability is that we've landed on the moon? Oh, Addison. Addison, do we land on the moon? Okay, we've met Buzz Aldrin. As a person who's now met like five people that have actually been on the moon.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I was at your birthday party when Buzz was there. Yes, that was my third birthday. I'm sorry if I'm scaring you by telling you he died. I will tell you, yes thank you. I appreciate that. I will tell you, they mostly are people that are like teachers. And if literally our only line of defense for that global conspiracy is that this guy doesn't say, I mean, I didn't really go to the moon, I would be like, oh maybe. But like meeting the people that have been to the moon,
Starting point is 00:32:06 that are just like, hey yeah, this is fun. And I'm like, but did you, like what? Like those people all having to just never say, it's like there's no, there's no, there's no world. I believed in this whole time, until I heard Jim Gaffigan do a special. He just mentioned something really quickly, which was like, isn't it kind of weird
Starting point is 00:32:24 that there hasn't been like a human on the moon in like over 50 years? And I was like, it's not... But this goes back to the thing, right? Yeah, it goes back to the thing. It goes back to Kevin being like, why are we sending someone to the moon? Right, because there's nothing there. It's like, we did it. If the moon was made out of gold, everybody would be on the fucking moon right now.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah, if someone lands on the moon and goes, oh fuck, I found the original Bitcoin money. Right, right, exactly. They were like, fucking everybody's on the moon. Or if it was habitable. Or if it was habitable. But I will say, on the opposite side of that, just to play devil's advocate, which is fun. I get you, I get you.
Starting point is 00:32:56 No, no, no, to play devil's advocate, if it really was a conspiracy theory to get Russia to build up all these like crazy and spend all this money, because like basically bankrupted them to try and catch up. That would have been a baller US move. By the way, that's a movie right there. No, no, they talked about it. They said the reason they said it was not a faking just for the faking sake.
Starting point is 00:33:18 It was a faking to get them to blow a bunch of capital in a way that we didn't care to do. And so we faked it because we wanted to bankrupt Russia. Yeah. Which was fucking, if... I'm curious, I'm not there. It happened dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:37 The flag was a little stiff up there. There's no fucking, it's a vacuum, there's no wind. Listen, I know there's no wind, but like a little bendy of more than a while Back to the moon why what's gonna cost 17 billion dollars, so like really why? Justin has a great point. I want to live on the moon. Justin's a little hammered. He's getting spicy. This is a Dignation recording!
Starting point is 00:34:16 You can tell that he's had a little art in rev. Yeah! Hit it up online, you can buy it. I will say that he's got a good point though, because like one of the things, fuck it, I don't, we're not, No, no, no. No, that was great.
Starting point is 00:34:34 No, we're not supposed to talk, we're not supposed to talk election stuff or politics, and we, It's not bad politicky. No, but one thing I want to say is that like, one of the things that I realized when I was talking to my wife about this, cause we all have these conversations about politics where there are others, right? and
Starting point is 00:34:50 With our others with our with our with our partners Yeah, their partners and and one of the things I would you know, my point has always been that like there are all these things that people point to as like very important things and yeah, there's social issues that are like, like I understand and I think there are very important to address and then there are the realities of the most common American which is I can't put food on the fucking dinner table. Can't buy a house. Yeah, can't buy a house and all these things and I'm like, if you just look over here, you're neglecting a massive, very important population.
Starting point is 00:35:30 And I wanna throw my arms around everyone and give everyone a big hug. Because it's like, we all need to be in this together. And I'm really bummed that some people can only see the social justice warrior side of things and not see the pain that people are having day to day. And it's like, that's a great example about going to the moon.
Starting point is 00:35:53 It's like, how much money are we spending to do that versus how many homeless people live within two blocks from here? Yeah, a lot. A lot. Too many. I mean, you built a wall around your house. Well, I mean, some ideas are correct when it comes to personal housing.
Starting point is 00:36:08 But yeah, and I also feel like if... We also did both things, right? Like, I really do feel like... I feel like everybody gets siloed in their own world. 100%. And all politics is local, as they say, you know what I mean? But I really do feel like-
Starting point is 00:36:30 Never heard that before with you, Greg. That's a very common political statement. Anyway, uh. Uh. But I really do feel like if we, I mean, fuck, I don't know. The whole answer is I don't know if we are going to ever be able to solve the world's problems
Starting point is 00:36:47 sitting on a couch drinking booze, but I think... I think we can. We can put a solve... Salve. A salve. Yeah, I got like a... It's like the horror. The salve of a little bit of fun at this horrible time.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Yeah. Which by the way, there's so many things, let me just say, literally Which by the way, there's so many things, let me just say, literally like two days ago, there's so many things that just happened that I was like, oh God, wait, what the fuck happened? Like the shit that's happening in South Korea? Oh dude. The fucking stuff that's happening in the Congo?
Starting point is 00:37:16 Let's move on to story two. Thank you, because I was like, should we talk about any of this shit? And I was like, no, no, no, it's not our place. Let's move on to story two, which actually has some tie-ins here. So story two- To the Congo? No, to more of like the homeless issues.
Starting point is 00:37:30 So- Interesting. So I had a, I've been a fan of Waymo. Have you? You have Waymo here. Bro, I was Mr. Waymo when we talking on the show. I can't get you Mr. Waymo. I tried first in San Francisco before you did. All right, but I'm Mr. Waymo. No, I'm Mr. Waymo. I'm Mr. Waymo. I tried first in San Francisco before you did. All right, but I'm Mr. Waymo.
Starting point is 00:37:46 No, I'm Mr. Waymo. I'm Mr. Waymo. You want me to? We've got a badge. I hate to one up you on this. No, don't tell me you invest in fucking Waymo. No, I was at Google X when they were using it and I freaking drove around in the prototypes
Starting point is 00:37:57 on Google's cameras. All right, you're Mr. Waymo. Okay, so I'm Mrs. Waymo. But I will say, Mrs. Waymo, I wanna tell you that like, I took it in San Francisco. I fucking love Waymo. This is a true story. This is a true story.
Starting point is 00:38:10 This is really fucked up, I'm going to say, because I've had 1.5 glasses. And maybe one off camera. So I will say that we were- Your doctor doesn't watch this show. No, no. Okay, good. We were in San Francisco this last week and we had a bunch of holiday parties and a bunch of stuff to attend.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I had like four, a bunch of holiday parties and a bunch of stuff to attend I have like four three two holiday parties and I don't know why I said that so so I have four I was three I was thinking a lot of way modes great and I love Waymo. Great fun you get in there There's no driver. There's all shit dude two times I shit you not this is really fucked up a homeless person person came out in the street, like in a dangerous, like, oh, fucking, and the Waymo was like, woohoo, and like right around it, in a way where I'm like, damn,
Starting point is 00:38:54 that's got some intelligence where it's been trained to dodge homeless people. Waymo does some shit, then I'm like, oh, good on you, Waymo. Right, exactly. Dude, so here's the deal, I think it has a lot of great data from San Francisco to dodge people.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And then I would say, Mazer. And then I would say, he's calling. And then I would say. No, we all have got that. The other thing is that like, I appreciate where when you're in a Tesla and you turn on self driving. There's a lot of this like,
Starting point is 00:39:21 you know, should I, should I, could I? And then Wain was just like, fuck it. Because we were in this intersection where the light had turned red, but we pulled out a third of the way in. And normally it's like, do I stop, do I back up? And Tesla would have froze. And Waymo gunned it.
Starting point is 00:39:38 And I was like, oh shit. But that's what I would have done as a human driver. And I'm like, Waymo is way afar. It's way far advanced. Two things, Waymo announced that they're doing an expansion into Miami. Which is interesting, because Miami is very congested. Miami is like a light Manhattan.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Yes. But different than LA, you know what I mean? But the price difference is crazy, dude. When I was in SF, if I want to take an Uber, I took an Uber, I did take one Uber because I needed to go to the airport and women won't go to the airport. And it was like, dude, it's like,
Starting point is 00:40:12 literally double what a Waymo is. 100%. And then like, when you finish the Uber, it's like, how much do you want to tip? When you finish the Waymo, it's like, how was your ride? And I'm like, oh, crazy. I'm not tipping the AI. Like, there's no, like, oh crazy. I'm not tipping the AI. Like there's no way to tip.
Starting point is 00:40:25 We... The thing in LA that's weird with Waymo is, thankfully we're like squarely in, because we're in essentially West LA, West Hollywood. I don't know exactly how you would put it, but we're by the Grove. So like our area is sort of like right, kind of two thirds into the side this way. But it does some weird stuff. Like it won't go onto Sunset. So like if I wanted to go to like,
Starting point is 00:40:51 the Whiskey of Go-Go on Sunset, it won't take us there. It does drop you a couple blocks every once in a while from someplace. Yeah, but it doesn't go on Sunset's trip. Oh, interesting. And it doesn't go into Los Feliz. Which is like, oh man, there's a couple places that like,
Starting point is 00:41:06 I have some buddies that live in Los Feliz. They'll figure it out though. I know, but I'm like, oh, it's great. But every time we can take it, I'm like, and this is, I mean, it's gonna sound bad, but, drinking and then driving yourself places without being legally over the limit is sort of a thing that people do. In Tesla's.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah, just in general. Like you drive to a place, you have a couple glasses of wine, you drive home. Like, you know, it's just, this is sort of the nature of, you know, like a blow over. Drive, drive, drive, drive. But when Uber came out, it was like, oh man, this is great, we could just take an Uber. Yeah. There's still a friction point. It's like not enough.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Like I, because I'd rather go to a place and be like, I'll just have two little drinks. And then ride out an hour and a half. And then drive home. Because I don't want to be with a guy or girl that's driving most of the time. And by literally you mean like doubles. Nah, when I'm driving.
Starting point is 00:42:11 But the whole thing is, and it's also like just a little expensive. Yes. Like it's just a little expensive. It's just, it's $20 there, $20 back and you're like $40, okay? But with Waymo, if it's in the rain, if I'm going to a place and it's in the range, and I'm going to meet anybody, I'll just be like, fuck it, I'm taking a Waymo.
Starting point is 00:42:30 It's 10 bucks to get there, 10 bucks to get back. Here's the crazy thing. So I had a chat with Waymo support when I was in, because you can push a button and talk to him. And so I was just chatting. Hey, Kevin here, just saying hi. They said in the thing that they do not turn the cameras on unless they absolutely have to.
Starting point is 00:42:47 The cameras can be on, safety. Audio is off. Audio is off unless you use the thing. Right, so two things there. One, you can bring your little flask with you, so if you're in the car, little slippers. And then two, is that DUI though, if you can pull it over?
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yeah, passenger. And then it's like, this fucking computer just is like, yeah! Yeah, but you can't drink as a passenger in a normal car. I know, you can in Japan, which is why I understand his brain. First of all, first of all, first of all, Justin, we're talking about Japanese rules here, which is where you can drink in Japan in the car. By the way, that blew our mind.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Oh my God, when we first landed in Japan, and we were like all fucked up because we didn't know how to play. We were like gel-agged because we took coach because we were broke. And like we got out and we like seriously got into like this guy's car and he's like, well you gotta go get your beers.
Starting point is 00:43:40 And we were like, what? And they were like, it's legal as long as you're not the driver and we're like oh okay. I'm sure it's in Cabo. Yeah yeah I'm pretty sure. Oh yeah they do that in Cabo too. I mean in Mexico you can kind of do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:43:57 So one thing I will say about the Wainwright thing is that I was with my wife and she had a good point which is like how many people the camera, if you look at it, it's looking at the center section of the aisle. Like between the two seats. JERRY-LOUIS Sure. JERRY-LOUIS This is kind of where I'm like, ooh. The times that people probably do sexy time in Waymo are probably way higher.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Obviously, than a driver being there. So the... I mean, I have seen tax cab confessionals. Right, so... On HBO. Think about this. There are sexy times. How many people have sexy times in Waymo's?
Starting point is 00:44:35 It's got to be high, right? I mean, I would say higher than an Uber. I called support. You're like, can I ask you a personal question? I did. I did. Okay. I called support, I hit the support button, and a very nice person picked up, and I was like, hey listen, I'm just curious, on the sexy time front, like how often does this
Starting point is 00:44:53 happen? She literally started dying laughing. Of course. And was like, I can't talk about that. But apparently it's a thing. I mean, look. Any time you have an enclosed environment where two people think they're in private, they're going to be sexy types.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Right. But you got a camera looking down the side of the aisle, so there's a chance of like someone looking in, and then do you get kicked out of the way mode? So that's the thing. That's the thing, right? Yeah. So like we talk about it with little Bindi Nut, I mean she's only 10 pounds, we're like okay.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Your dog? Yeah, because we're like can we bring our dog? Like we would go. Oh yeah, you can. No, you can't. If you hide it you can, you can just leave that shit on the side. That's what I'm saying. Same thing with sexy times.
Starting point is 00:45:36 You're not supposed to do sexy times, but if you hide it you can. See what I'm saying? Interesting. See how it works? That risk of getting caught, that makes it interesting. It's like the mind of the eye club. Yeah. If the consequences are zero then you're like, eh, doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Right. Great point. Then it's just uncomfortable. Yeah. It's uncomfortable with no risk. The Mile High Club is a great example. It's like if there is no risk. I don't understand the Mile High Club.
Starting point is 00:45:55 I know we've talked about this. Yeah, you've never done it. No, it's just like, I barely want to be in that place without shoes on, let alone having sexy time. You can still wear your shoes. Why would I wear shoes with sexy time? Okay. Next story! But I will say...
Starting point is 00:46:09 Okay, here we go! I will say, uh, do we have more whispering? Oh. I know how this rolls. Yup, this is what... By the way, I loved it when you came here. You were like, I mean, I'll just have like a little bit. Well, you'll start pouring.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Well, it's a wine bit. Well stop pouring. Well it's a wine bottle. Why do I have little floaties in my glass? It's the whispering angel. I know. It's the whisper part. Okay, next story. Woo hoo hoo.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Alright, world's first nuclear powered diamond battery with 5,700 year lifespan unveiled in the UK. Guys, shit's going to be weird. You gotta explain this shit to me, because I have no idea what you're talking about. Okay, shit's going to be weird. So, in the UK, so you know Carbon-14, right? So Carbon-14 is a nuclear isotope that degrades over 5700 years. Yeah, everyone knows Carbon-14.
Starting point is 00:47:09 So Carbon-14 is the way that we do quote-unquote carbon dating. Yeah. Because basically we can see how much of the Carbon-14 that we knew showed up in the atmosphere because of a fucking asteroid or whatever. It emits short-term short-range radiation. Short-term short-range radiation. Short-term, short-range radiation. I just read that from the article, but go ahead. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Oh? What happened was these people in the UK went, well, wait a minute, this is basically emitting radiation, very mild, and so what they did was, you know how they can now lab grow diamonds, right? Yes. So they basically said, well, what can now lab grow diamonds, right? Yes. So they basically said, well what if we lab grow diamonds around some Carbon-14?
Starting point is 00:47:51 So they encased Carbon-14 in lab grown diamonds. Well, diamonds, one of the hardest substances known to men. Or man. Or women. Or they. Fuck. This is so much more complicated nowadays. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Carbon dating. What did we say before? We were like, keep it... What was it? Steady. Stay on target. Stay on target. I can't lose him, Red19! So what they did was they encased Carbon 1414 in manufactured diamond. So you don't have to worry about it. So they made these little diamonds, but the thing is is that
Starting point is 00:48:31 essentially it makes microwatts. It acts the same way, the diamond surface acts the same way as a photovoltaic sensor in like a solar panel. So essentially this little thing is emitting these nuclear rays. Okay. The radiation is hitting the shell of diamond and heating up and making this microwatt energy. But not a ton, just a little microwatt. No, but here's the deal. It's not gonna power your car. Right. But they could use it to power a pacemaker. An ocular implant. Something that where you go,
Starting point is 00:49:13 oh well we have to replace the batteries. Oh. Like one of those little fucking weird Tic-Tac batteries that you're like, I didn't even know this thing had a fucking battery. And like every five years you're like, what the fuck did I just order the CR-232 100%. Little fucking battery. Like yeah. Yeah, so you can take. There you're like what the fuck guys order the CR
Starting point is 00:49:27 Battery like yeah, yes, you can always one thing Yeah, has those little batteries where you're just like and you're like how does this have a fucking matter in Amazon? And you get the fucking pack that has comes with 15 years like yeah, and then it's got a weird thing We're like how am I really open it and it smells like shit cuz of children. Yeah, I don't know You're talking about but then like fine No, you know they know you have them now and they're like safety for home Which is basically it has this potent pungent smell when you open also kids can't eat it so the kids don't think they're candy Oh, yeah, I'm not fucking weird that explains kids are fucking destroying. I used to eat them so that explains why Attracted to these yeah battery
Starting point is 00:50:02 You can eat one of these diamond batteries. But here's the thing, because of the fact that the Carbon-14 doesn't degrade over the course of 5,700 years. It just powers it forever. Well, not forever, but forever enough for us. But the cool thing is the breakthrough. And here's the other thing. You ready for this? Let's go. You can make Carbon-14 from the waste graphite from old nuclear waste.
Starting point is 00:50:34 So you could actually recycle the nuclear waste that we have on the planet. Which is a lot, but not comparable of other things. 58,000 tons or whatever in the UK. It's not that much comparatively. But you could then capture, you could convert that graphite into Carbon-14, surround it by diamond, manufactured diamond, and then you have fucking amazing endless micro batteries instead of nuclear waste.
Starting point is 00:51:02 So it's like... And by the way, this is the first step. This is just the like, holy fuck we can do this. This is the V1. This is the V1. This is the V.1. I really... well, does it emit radiation? Well it does, but the whole point is the diamond shell absorbs it. So, but like, if I had a hearing aid, am I going to have like, gross?
Starting point is 00:51:22 No, no, because it's not... it's not, it's perfectly safe. It's a diamond shell. Perfectly safe. Crisp diamond shell. Whisper safe. It's like the, uh, the Dairy Queen. Yeah, it's a hot pocket. You know when you put the like the-
Starting point is 00:51:33 Nuclear energy. That chocolate on the Dairy Queen. Oh, the chocolate shell that doesn't like the ice cream to melt. Yeah, it doesn't fucking break unless you really go in. Fuck yeah. Fuck, that's good. I also felt like, how do they dip it and not have it drop in there? I don't know, but it's good. It's good. I also felt like how do they dip it and not have it drop in there? I don't know, but it's good. That's magic.
Starting point is 00:51:45 So carbon-14 short-range radiation batteries covered in diamonds. This is going to be the future of microwatt batteries. I love this because there's so many... It's funny, there are so many devices nowadays that are like the internet of thing devices. Where it's like these little things that like, I have like, and this is like silly, but I do it because it's important. I have these little water sensors that sit
Starting point is 00:52:11 like kind of around my house. I have like 10 of them. And I do it because like if I'm out of town for a week or whatever and a pipe breaks, I don't want like $200,000 of flooding damage or whatever. And so I have these little things that sit there, this is a little hockey pucks, and I have to replace that battery like every two years.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And it's like, it doesn't sound like a big deal, and it's not that big deal, but like you get these notifications like, oh fuck, okay, I go to Amazon, all this thing. Just to like have micro like electricity that could do most of these little modules of internet things. Think about like RFID tags.
Starting point is 00:52:41 But also like honestly like AirPods. Like that could be built into the actual device. Think about RFID tags. But also, honestly, AirPods. 100% That could be built into the actual device. Yeah. Think about having AirPods, AirPods 10. You never have to charge them. You never have to charge them again.
Starting point is 00:52:53 That's a big deal. You know what I mean? I mean, we just made that up, but it's huge. I mean, sales will go down. They got a built-in obsolescence, is that what they say? Why would the sales go down? Oh, because the batteries run out. That's one major reason why everybody airbots. Well the batteries just don't run out.
Starting point is 00:53:08 The charge doesn't stay? You can pause that and you're done. Gotta get your hands. Interesting. Yeah, but also the tech gets better. Tech gets better. Did you guys see the air tags? Air tags? Air tags, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:16 That would be incredible. 100%, yeah, you never have to charge the air tag. Because I bought like four and I just haven't replaced the batteries in the air. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have like three or four things that like luggage and shit that it's all the ATAGs are dead. So they specifically talked about A, space. Right? So like, hey there's some, you know, a radio thing that we got to send out into space and
Starting point is 00:53:36 we'll just send this, because you don't have to worry about recharging batteries because you can't. But also, think about like tags for like sharks or like whales or things that are like really way out into the wilderness so you're like, fuck the battery on, you know, L2-75, the fucking wolf that we're tracking in fucking Griffith Park is like way low. Guess we got to find that guy and replace the thing, charge the battery, whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:57 So to be able to do a lot of like the tagging stuff with this is like huge. All right, let's move on to the next story. Let's do that. I believe it's yours. S-subtle transition. Was that not so? I mean, I do think all that is huge. I'm just like... I do care.
Starting point is 00:54:20 I do care. Listen. Tagging of sharks is the most important thing to me in my life these days You know what it was here's the true story Let me tell you why I freaked out this is the true story like this needs to be going to the footage What happened is we have a script that we look at, right? And I realized I have two empty slots for stories I also have to talk about. I also realized that.
Starting point is 00:54:53 And I was like, Jesus Christ, I have nothing to talk about, I have nothing to talk about. And then he's like, the shark should be tagged with the fucking things. And I'm like, I found a story. And I'm like, okay, cool sharks. Because I was worried about like having a hole in the gap of the things that we're talking about. I mean, I found a story. And I'm like, okay, cool sharks. Cause I was worried about like having a hole in the gap of the things that we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:55:08 I mean, I get that. Listen, the sharks aren't important. Everybody loves it. Why isn't anybody thinking about the sharks? All right. You're up. So I don't have the story, but I do have an email. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:21 So we can start to intertwine emails with stories. Let's intertwine emails with stories. Yeah, so this guy says Tron. Okay. So we can start to intertwine emails with stories. Let's intertwine emails with stories. Yeah, so this guy says Tron, Ares, and Andor S2 Premiere invites. Whoa, what? Is that mean anything to you? That means a lot to me. Okay, this is what he says. By the way, this is why I love Kevin, because he doesn't understand anything that has to do with entertainment at all. Because fucking Andor, Season 2 invite? Okay, so this is from... Tron Ares, I believe, is the third Tron. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:52 So, this, we were talking about Tron. This is an email from an at disney.com address. So that's how I know it's legit. And this guy says, yo... So this guy says, yo... Great way to start. Strong starting. Heard you talking about Tron and Amdor on the pod.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Yep. I love having, I love to have you guys both attend the red carpet events. Yeah! Are you fucking kidding me? They still have some time away, but if you guys are game, I'd earmark seats at both premieres for you and a guest.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Kevin, you gotta watch Amd's season one, it's incredible. Glad to hear you loved it Alex. And Kevin, you put Annex like all caps. Kevin, glad to hear you love Tron Legacy as much as I do. Nine Shales is doing the music, it's gonna crush, love Trent. No trailer yet. What you've seen is leaked from D23,
Starting point is 00:56:44 our Disney convention yep yep do you know as needs worry Disney do you know deep 23 yeah D23 is like yeah they're comic-con yeah I was just like as an I look at you because you have Disney tattoos and stuff he does I just love that I just love that is in slow head shakes show him the Mickey show him the Mickey one show him the Mickey one. He has the Mickey Mouse, look at Mickey Mouse on his arm. Oh wow. Show him the bird's leg. Show your body.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Show your body. You know the crows? Yeah. It's the vulture from the jungle book. The vulture from the jungle book, he's got those on his leg. Oh yes, love that. Anyway, feel free to hit me up, I hope you both can attend, you won't be disappointed. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Happy the show is back. Keep up the great work. Yes. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I yes, love that. Anyway, all right, feel free to hit me up, I hope you both can attend, you won't be disappointed.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yes. Happy the show is back. Yes. Keep up the great work. Yes. It makes my long ass commute so much more enjoyable. Thanks Justin, PS, Alex, I just made that up. You fucker, by the way, every time there's a PS that says Alex,
Starting point is 00:57:45 I know you're gonna do something. I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. PS Alex, you can't make it. You can't make it. Oh shit, he has email back! Fucking just now. What?
Starting point is 00:57:53 I should have not. Let's fucking go, he said. Yeah! Let's fucking go! I'll keep you posted on dates, and or it will be early April, location DVD. Fuck yeah! I'll follow up early enough
Starting point is 00:58:02 so I can keep the dates under your calendar. Tron, early October, location DVD. Yeah, fuck yeah dude! WarGems Olympic but Cool, this happens. Later in the year I have Penetrator. No, no, no. First off, this is hysterical. He has Predator Badlands.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Predator Badlands. Dan Trachtenberg's movie. Not Penetrator. So I... How did you confuse Predator and Penetrator? Listen. You know what? He had the whispering angel. Listen.
Starting point is 00:58:29 There are certain movies that have other headlines and other domains. This is amazing. And this is one where... Yeah. And Avatar, Fire and Ash. Oh my god, this is great. Okay. So...
Starting point is 00:58:39 Let's talk about Dan for a second. Dude, Dan's fucking killing it, bro! So here's the crazy thing. This is a... So, Alex had a show back in the day. Yep. Totally Rad Show. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Dan Trachtenberg. You guys are obviously great hosts and like, fucking awesome. By the way, Dignation fan, that's how I met him. And tell us about what Dan has become, because it's kind of insane. Well, Dan was always a director. A lot of the Totally Rad Show episodes
Starting point is 00:59:02 were directed by Dan. And he did the Dignation commercial. That was Dan that directed that. I wasn't there. I know. But that was Dan that directed it. I still feel bad about that. I know, I get that. Why are you giving me a show? No, I'm just saying that's like Dan.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yeah. You know, this is Dan. But Dan's been a great director. he's done a bunch of shit. Well what was crazy is like when I first met him, you know, obviously he's insanely talented. And then all of a sudden I was like, he's like, hey I'm doing this audio commercial, remember that? Yeah, the audio commercial.
Starting point is 00:59:36 And I was like, oh fuck, like you're like kind of stepping up a little bit. And you know like when you see one of your homies, you're like, oh you're like leveling up over and over again. That has been his life. So his first big sort of splash was, he directed Ten Cloverfield Blames. Which is great. Yeah, yeah, it's fucking great.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Such a good movie. So cool, it was like, fuck yeah dude, he's like fucking, he's doing it. He's doing the thing. Lives in LA, yeah he lives in Burbank. Head down. Why don't you come hang out dude, I moved here it. He's doing the thing. Lives in LA? Yeah, he lives in Burbank. Head down. Head down. Why don't you come hang out? I moved here, you didn't say hi yet.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Anytime, anytime. I literally just hung out with him for a weekend in Palm Springs with the boys. But then he has done a ton of stuff. He directed a Black Mirror episode, which is great. Which one? Playtest, it's called Playtest. You see it?
Starting point is 01:00:22 You see it? It was great, it was great. And then he directed a bunch of stuff. He directed The Pilot for the boys on Amazon. So good. So if you ever watch The Boys, he directed The Pilot, which is great. Then, and this is so funny. So this is like, this is one of those things where you're like,
Starting point is 01:00:38 it's fucking cool to know somebody that's like doing cool shit. Yeah. So we play D&D together. I mean, we've known each other for years and we were playing D&D and I remember this way back in the day. This is like eight, nine years ago. And he was like, we were like, oh what are you working on?
Starting point is 01:00:54 Because he's got all these projects. And we're like, oh yeah, that's great. Cool, yeah, it's fun, fun, fun. And he was like, well I have this idea that I'm writing. And we were like, oh cool, what is it? And he was like, well the idea is really like, how great is this Super Bowl commercial? And we were like, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:10 And so he goes, so we're just sitting there playing D&D and he was like, all right, so the Super Bowl commercial is it's this young Native American woman, girl, she wants to go hunting with the guys, the guys are like, fuck you, you're girls, this is how this works, you can't go hunting. She's like, fuck, I wanna go hunting, all the guys go out hunting. And she's like, fuck you, you're girls. This is how this works. You can't go hunting. She's like, fuck, I want to go hunting. All the guys go out hunting.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And she's like, fuck it, I'm going to go hunting with you guys. And she leaves, doesn't really find them, comes back and the entire tribe is decimated. And she's like, what the fuck? And it's just her on her own in this fucking like Native American world. And you know, it's like the frontier and what's going on,
Starting point is 01:01:41 you know, French trappers and all this stuff. And he was like, and then at the end, she's like sitting in the bushes and you just see the like three predator triangle thing on her thing and we're like, what? And he's like, it's predator, but he comes early and it's this Native American huntress that wants to be a hunter. And I was like, holy fuck! And that was like seven years before Prey came out on Hulu. And it was like... He did Prey, right?
Starting point is 01:02:07 And then Prey is the movie that he was pitching us. You know what I mean? It's a great predator film since The Abyssal Pirates. Totally agree. Totally agree. It really is. Yeah. And so it was like, and it was really fun too,
Starting point is 01:02:18 because like we got to go see a screening and it was really interesting because Dan was like, well, I want to know your thoughts. And I was like, oh that's cool. And we went to 20th Century, we did a screening and it was like pre-vis stuff and all this stuff. And I was like, oh yeah. And I had thoughts because, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:33 sort of working in the industry for so many years. And it was really interesting because he called me and was like, no I want to like, let's talk. And we talked for like an hour and a half about the cut and like all these things, blah, blah, blah, blah. And some of that stuff made it into the movie. Oh, so cool. And it just made me feel like so cool.
Starting point is 01:02:49 I was like, oh fuck, you like listen to the stuff. But yeah, so anyway, so he's working on a new Predator movie, he already shot it in New Zealand. That's Predator Badlands. Yeah. When does that come out? It's very cool. I wanna say, well, probably November of next year.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Dan, can I get invited to the red carpet show? Dude, we got invited by this guy! Oh, this guy. Okay, nevermind, this other guy's gonna buy us. Yeah, yeah, yeah! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Long story short, yes.
Starting point is 01:03:18 But anyway, no, Dan's done a bunch of other stuff. He's, I mean, he's fucking, he's Dan. I gotta say, it's really cool when you meet these people that like, and I'll say this, that have surpassed whatever we can do. Like, I have that happen a couple times where when I first went to Google and they had bought our little incubator
Starting point is 01:03:40 and I moved in and I went to Google Ventures and I was like doing the interview process to become a VC at Google Ventures. One of my interviews was with Sundar and this is, he's the CEO now. And this is like before he became CEO. It was just like a senior dude. And when we went to lunch and we were just like
Starting point is 01:03:59 shooting the shit and like, what's cool, what's up, blah, blah. And I was like, God damn, this guy is sharp. Like, you know when you meet someone and you're like, fuck, you're gonna go places, you know? And then literally like four years later, his CEO, I was like, holy fuck. I had no idea, but like, System was the same way.
Starting point is 01:04:16 I met first Kevin before Instagram, like and then Instagram launched, you're like, boom, like it explodes. But it's really cool to like, you're very lucky if you get to meet a few of these people that have these breakout things. I mean, honestly, Gary was like that, right?
Starting point is 01:04:30 Like Gary Vee came. Oh, by the way, he wants to come to the donation. Of course he does, and by the way, yes, fucking Gary. I haven't seen you in ages. But Gary Vee was like, he was so smart, because I remember, I just was recounting the story the other day. He sponsored an episode of Dignation
Starting point is 01:04:50 for Wine Library TV, which was his podcast and website that he was doing back in way, I mean this is like way back. Nobody knew who Gary was. Nobody knew who Gary was. And I remember you and I, because we were fucking young and we were like, fuck that, no, you don't get to be on the show because the whole stipulation was, we want to come and be on the show fucking young, and we were like, fuck that, no, you don't get to get to be on the show, because the whole stipulation was,
Starting point is 01:05:06 we want to come on the show. Yeah, and we were like, no. We were like, no, you can't just buy your way on the show. And they were like, okay, he's gonna come out. He's gonna sit in the corner. Meet him, and he's just gonna sit in the corner. And fucking, I mean, the one thing about Gary is like, when you meet him, he is a fucking force.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Yeah. When he came in, we were eating burritos at that weird burrito spot. And he was like sitting at a separate table. And he came in and we were just like, well you come over, that's fine. And then it was just like, this fucking guy is amazing. Like this is the coolest guy.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Like I fucking want to hang out with this guy. He's just so like, jazzed about everything. And then when we had him on the show, when we were taping, we were like, just come over. And he fucking ended up sitting there and chatting with us for like 20 minutes. And then Gary Vaynerchuk. Gary is one of the best dudes. So recently, my sister, she's one of the big sellers
Starting point is 01:05:55 on Poshmark. She does like. Oh shit, yeah. Yeah, I think she's like the top seller, or like the biggest followed seller on Poshmark. She does secondary sales and stuff, and like the recycled stuff seller on Poshmark. Like she does secondary sales and stuff and like the recycled stuff and all kinds of stuff. And Gary like reached out and was like,
Starting point is 01:06:12 hey, can we do a co-show together? And my sister flew out to New York two weeks ago. Holy shit, that's amazing. Did a show with Gary and Gary was like, like he didn't have to do that. Like Gary's been asking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, Kev, I love you guys,
Starting point is 01:06:26 you always supported me, and I love your sister, and he was like, they're friends, you know, and he's like, how can I help? And like, he's so low off. And that just shows you that he's really character. You know what I mean? And like, that means so much. Like, because it's not about just like,
Starting point is 01:06:43 how can I make a dollar? It's like somebody that really cares about your family and stuff like that. And I don't know, I love Gary. He's also one of those guys that like, he came from a family of immigrants, bought a liquor store, ran a liquor store, successfully ran a liquor store.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Wine store, yeah. But really saw the internet, was really one of those guys that was like very business minded, which by the way, I am not. Like Gary is the exact opposite of me. I enjoy talking bullshit in front of the camera for people. Love it.
Starting point is 01:07:15 You love Jack Daniels too. I love Jack Daniels. Yeah, you love that too. My favorite kind of Daniels. Uh, Jeff Daniels is a close second. Uh, but Jack Daniels is my favorite Daniels. What was the first Daniels? Jack Daniels? What was the close second? Jeff Daniels is a close second. But Jack Daniels is my favorite Daniels. What was the first Daniels? Jack Daniels?
Starting point is 01:07:27 What was the close second? Jeff Daniels. Oh, Jeff Daniels. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, Jack Daniels. Dumb and dumber?
Starting point is 01:07:35 Jack Daniels, Jack Daniels. I know. Those are the best names for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do not fuck with me, Justin. I know who he is. Yes. But long story short, I'm so excited
Starting point is 01:07:46 for all of the fucking stuff going. Andor, season two, red carpet. Fuh-fuh-fuh-fuh-fuh-fuh-fuh-fuh-fuh. That is the best, oh my god, I can't even fucking time it up. Can I ask a quick question? Yes. So you have a question. Second question from the audience.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Yeah, second question from the audience. Yeah. You played D&D with Dan. Yes. That's how we met. Well, no, that's how we met, yeah. You were the DM, where you built characters. Oh, who's the sub and who's the primary here?
Starting point is 01:08:11 So, who's the dom? We're trying to figure that out. We were all subs. Because we didn't know how to play D&D. My buddy Mike Rizzo, who was my first boss in college, was the DM. Amazing. This is all from... Fucking, you know who was there? It was Brentano.
Starting point is 01:08:27 We did it at T4. No, he's in Scottsdale, Arizona. So essentially, the quick version is, I had met Dan through Dignation, because he was a Dignation fan, wanted to do this commercial, which we did. Kept on doing it for a long time. He feels bad, he feels bad. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Water under the bridge. But Brentano was one of the producers at Screensavers, where we met. And was still at G4. And Brentano was like, I want to play D&D. I've never played D&D. And I was like, I've always wanted to play D&D. I've never played D&D. And I was like, I've always wanted to play D&D. I've never played D&D. So we put out this sort of like, bat signal. Because I was like, well my buddy, who used to be my boss, Mike Rizzo, is a DM. He lives here in LA.
Starting point is 01:09:19 He would totally come and DM for us. And Joshua was like, well I'll just reserve a fucking conference room at G4 at the studio. In like... You know, on a Saturday. So that's cool. So I just emailed like a bunch of my friends that was like, maybe you want to play D&D? I might have even fucking emailed you.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Oh, you were probably in San Francisco. Anyway. I have my own D&D career in San Francisco. Oh, I want to know about that. Anyway. Dan responded, I'm in. So I was like, great. So me and Dan show up.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Joshua got this guy named Casey, who's fucking hysterical. This is a long story. He wanted to play. But then, wait, listen. He drove over to Honda Civic. Wait, this is very important. He wasn't washed. No, but this is very important. This is very important.
Starting point is 01:10:05 The history of podcasting. So Joshua, Joshua had a friend of a friend named Jeff, named Jeff Kanata. Who also wanted to play. We had never met Jeff Kanata. It was literally Jeff's 30th birthday that day. We all played D&D.
Starting point is 01:10:24 What kind of cake did he have? It was a cake. Just kidding. Let's fucking go! So long story short, that's how me, Dan, and Jeff met to then start Totally Rad Show two years later, which then is how I now, like, Totally Rad Show was on revision 3 anyway. Blah blah blah blah. Guess what, guys?
Starting point is 01:10:43 That'll be all on Wikipedia later. C-cheese! What were you, though? What was your race in your class? Oh, you raced in my class. Oh, I was a wood elf ranger. You're still there. Named Dr. Sleek.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Dan was a... I don't know what his race was, but he was a monk called Ubu. Because Sit, Ubu, Sit, good dog, from the 80s. So his name was Ubu. Fucking always doing the dumb, Sit, good dog, from the 80s. So his name was Ubu. Fucking always doing the dumbest shit. And he knows it. I always did the dumbest shit too. He was like, I'm going to jump on this wire!
Starting point is 01:11:12 We're like, fuck. Anyway. I would always roll well though. I'd do dumb shit and I'd roll well. Ubu would do the opposite. Dan would do the opposite. And then Jeff was a human paladin in Masoriak. Hmm. All right. Well, all right.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Well, I'm so glad we have that history lesson there. JERRY Wasn't that a fun walk down memory lane? JERRY You know when you were paving the way for a really compelling story that would have changed all of our lives? Like if you'd have been like, that man was Barack Obama. JERRY He was Barack Obama. KATE Yeah. JERRY Well no, that man was the director Dan Trachtenberg
Starting point is 01:11:44 who brought you Prey and Predator Badlands. Anyway, Chi Chi's plans new restaurants more than 20 years after bankruptcy. So you grew up in Nevada or how long were you in Reading? Uh, tiny. Like until I was three. And then I moved to Las Vegas and then moved to SF, yeah. I didn't know Chi-Chi's. You didn't know Chi-Chi's?
Starting point is 01:12:10 I don't know if Chi-Chi's is maybe like an East Coast thing, but Chi-Chi's is a corporate Mexican restaurant. Why did you pick this story? Because this is the fucking Mexican restaurant that I would go to all the time with my family for Mexican food in Virginia. Like Chi-Chi's was Mexican food to me growing up. I was like fucking love Chi-Chi's. It was like,
Starting point is 01:12:32 chilies, Outback or Chi-Chi's? It was like, do you want barbecue, Mexican or Australian? And I would always go, let's fucking go to Chi-Chi's! Chimichangas, bitch! What's Australian? Like kangaroo shit? Loaded onion or blooming onion? Oh, okay. Blooming onion.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was thinking kangaroo. I'm backstinking. I was thinking kangaroo. You know what? But by the way, so it turns out- You think they eat that meat? Kangaroo meat? Yeah. Oh, I've definitely, ooh. Is that a thing? I mean, I feel like I've had kangaroo.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Not here, it's not. No, but I've had like a lot of weird meat. Like, can you eat kangaroo meat? Kangaroo meat? meat. I don't even think it's... Kangaroo meat. Pangaroo meat? No. I think they're large rodents in Australia, though. Mm-hmm. Oh, they have... sell that shit, dude!
Starting point is 01:13:11 Yeah! Fucking kangaroo meat right here, buy online. I don't need that. We don't need to order it. Here we go, we got one pound of kangaroo ground. What's the weirdest animal you've ever eaten? Jesus, well... The weirdest is definitely... Well... Chicken? No, IN UNISON, and KRIS, IN UNISON, and KRIS, IN UNISON, and KRIS, IN UNISON, and KRIS, IN UNISON, and KRIS, IN UNISON, and KRIS, IN UNISON, and KRIS, IN UNISON, and KRIS, IN UNISON, and KRIS, IN UNISON, and KRIS, IN UNISON, and KRIS, IN UNISON, and
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Starting point is 01:13:49 It translates into... It's called milt in Japan. Milt? Yeah, hold on, hold on. Milt... Oh, is that the fish semen? So it's... Okay, here it is.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Milt. It's sperm sacs from the male fish, known as shiokko, which means, this is literally what Google's saying, it translates to small white children. Which is because the sperm... No, I get it! I get it. You didn't have to explain. Small white children is the best way to describe sperm.
Starting point is 01:14:25 So here's the crazy thing. Oh my god, that's so great. What is that, is that mucus? No, it's small white children. Oh, it's sperm. When it is small white children's season, which is like three months a year, like small white children's season.
Starting point is 01:14:39 No, no, listen. My favorite season. They give it to you in a way that's like, they are here.... our delicacy. Oh... And so I'm like this, I'm like... Okay! And then... but it's in every restaurant.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Oh no... Lunch, dinner. The good news is it's... What does it taste like? Small white children. It tastes like small white children. Does it taste like semen? I don't know what semen tastes like but but it was slightly salty and like, it fucking... Man, I feel like you're trans.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Yeah, yeah. I feel like that's what's all... Thank you, Heather, for the confirmation. Slightly salty and tastes like semen. So, she let these up to the comment. So, I will say this. I probably ate... Too much.
Starting point is 01:15:21 I would, if I had to guess, probably if a coffee cup was filled with small white children. Oh god. I'd probably have three or four coffee cups. Three or four coffee cups? I mean, it's like a lot of small white children. Do you dip it in soy sauce? Yes, I do. I dip it in whatever the fuck is around.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Because you don't want to... I don't want it. I don't want it. No, no, no. It's not that you don't want it. You don't want to like... Like offend them.'t want it. You don't want it like They offend them and God is this a problem with you and the semen I love you because I don't know I get that But there's like like that's the thing is I feel like how far do you go? You take it? You take it? That's the problem. I don't want to do that. It's not the problem. It's like it's their delicacy
Starting point is 01:16:00 It is it's fish semen is all these humans semen It is, it's fish semen, it's all like it's human semen. Not that that would be any, they're one degree. Not that that would be any. Listen, whoever likes that, something like that. By the way, I'm going to say something super weird. Do we have semen sacs? I mean is that? Yes, it's called your ball sac.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Wait, so you're just eating fish balls? Yes. Oh, well that seems different. How did you not know your semen sac is a ball? I don't know, but they just said semen sac, which feels very different than like... That is a ball sac, dude. Yeah, but testicles, like we've eaten testicles.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Who hasn't eaten testicles? What do we even eat testicles? I didn't eat testicles with you. Yeah, like goat testicles, like Rocky Mountain oysters. I have never had goat testicles with you. Why would you have them with me? Have you had some? I don't know. Now that I'm saying it out loud, I don't think I have. I love that we're in this part of the show.
Starting point is 01:16:54 By the way, Chi-Chi's. It's like, yeah, Chi-Chi's. Chi-Chi's is going to be amazing. By the way, you're going to love this. Yeah. Chi-Chi's was founded by a guy and a... God damn it. We can't keep any of these on the fucking rails.
Starting point is 01:17:11 And a former Green Bay Packer player, Max McGee. Oh, Max McGee, I love Max. That's information you have now. Well, congrats for Chi-Chi's coming back. I'm excited. Great story. I'm excited. No, I'm excited fucking Chi Chi's Okay, let's get to your last story of the day which is my last story of the day
Starting point is 01:17:30 Yeah, which is your highlight? That was really interesting next time No, when I think with the guy getting shot This was crazy though, that's some that's some secret shit Miller Highlife releases Dive Bar Perfume. I kinda like this. And it already is selling out. So first off, I feel like Miller Highlife is like winning PR. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:17:56 They've actually had some other times where they've like connected with other products and been like, let's do a fucking thing. But Miller High Life has introduced a limited edition fragrance, dive barfume, designed to embody the local dive, the aroma of your local dive bar, priced at $60 a bottle, which is very reasonable. Maybe a little high for a dive bar scent.
Starting point is 01:18:23 But that's Champagne of Beers. They are a champagne of beers. That's a good point. The unique scent promises to evoke the bar counter that smells like cedar wood, the musky scent of those worn-in leather bar stools, the sea salt from the basket of french fries and popcorn, and the crisp aroma when the bartender opens your champagne of beers. Okay, so hold on a second here. I want to smell this. Because I feel like there's a lot of, so a lot of companies have also gotten into
Starting point is 01:18:57 the good smells of alcohol, which is like what I just emitted. Like the Jack's. But they're bad, like the old fashioned, it's been a big one where it's like, it feels like... There's also the like speakeasy, where it's like a lot of like leathers and tobacco and all these flavors that are really, really fucking cool. But they have sold out... ...like that lickety-splickety.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Okay, here's the deal. Let me throw something out there. I'm going to buy 20 bottles of Miller Highlife perfume If they're available if you all find a money be if you come to the live donation There's a chance you might get in your gift bag a We're giving out gift bag a Alex Warren Alex Warren
Starting point is 01:19:42 a Alex Warren. Alex Warren? I'm going to spray it on my body and then recapture it in bottle form. We will give you a chance of winning the Miller High Life. We got to do this, right? Dude, I'm in. All you have to do is buy it. Can we get some of these, our new Art and Rev? I will totally talk about Art and Rev being there to give people some free fucking cocktails. Yeah, sounds great. We'll do all that stuff. It's there to give some people some free fucking cocktails. Yeah, it sounds great
Starting point is 01:20:05 We'll do all that stuff. Yeah, be fun. Dude. Yeah. All right, so I was on either This is Bindi's move. She's like I just want to hit you in the face. So cute. I know isn't she great She's got a clip. Yeah, I mean you get the new scarf and you get the clip. Yeah, that's the clip That's a clip scarf. All right That is it. Holy fucking guys first off. Oh, we have more emails. Oh, okay. There is one more email, two more emails that I wanted to touch on real quick. Let me just move back to them here.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Touch on them quickly. We've got the one that is going to invite us to the crazy shit, which looks great. That's amazing. Dude, I'm so fucking excited. So excited. Justin? I think it was Justin? Uh, was that, was that, he was, you were excited about that? You want to go? No, no, no. The guy, the email guy's name was Justin? Uh, was that, was that, he was excited, you were excited about that, you want to go? No, no, no, the guy, the email guy's name was Justin.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Oh. We can get you a bite, we can get you a bite. We'll figure it out, we'll figure it out. Okay, Eric Wolf writes in, Kevin, where did you get that couch? Talking about the couch we normally sit on, not yours, the one I was in, my house. Where'd you get it? I don't know. Um, so.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Well, this one is from our house. Next story. Okay, that was great. And these are emails. Alex. Oh, this is great. Oh, this is a good one. I love this one. Okay, this one is from,
Starting point is 01:21:13 this one is from Alex Albrecht. To Alex Albrecht. Very fun. Hello Alex. Hi Alex. I hope this message finds you well. It does. Good story to start with.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Our good luck line. I don't know what you're talking about. Probably does. Good story to start with, or good luck with the line. I don't know what you're talking about. Probably an AI. My name is Alex Albrecht. My name is also Alex Albrecht. I'm reaching out to you with a small favor. Yes. I recently had a business meeting
Starting point is 01:21:35 where the person I was meeting with thought he was connecting with you. Oh. He's a huge fan of Dignation and really admires your work. Oh, thank you. It meant a lot to him if you could create a admires your work. Oh, thank you. I do too. It meant a lot to him if you could create a short video thanking him for being a fan.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Yes. I understand your time is valuable. And I truly appreciate any help you can provide. Thank you for considering this. Looking forward to your response. Best regards, Alex Albrecht. This is the best. First off, hello, Alex Albrecht. This is the best. First off, hello Alex Albrecht.
Starting point is 01:22:07 I'm so sorry that your business meeting didn't go as planned because your business meeting meter thought that you were meeting Alex Albrecht, me. But I will say, I'm a big fan of Alex Albrecht. No matter who that person actually ends up being. So if you were the person having a meeting with an Alex Albrecht and you were disappointed that person having a meeting with an Alex Albrecht, and you were disappointed that you weren't meeting with the Alex Albrecht,
Starting point is 01:22:30 I'm here to tell you, that Alex Albrecht is an Alex Albrecht, and those Alex Albrecht's are just as good as me. And they're like proxies, like you kind of like flow through them. 100%. Oh, we all know each other. Yeah. Any Alex Albrecht on the planet has access to the Alex Albrecht red phone which
Starting point is 01:22:48 You just pick it up right here So if you need anything from me tell your Alex Albrecht He will get that information to me and I will then relay that information to him So whatever it is that he was pitching you you should say yes What if he was pitching something horrible? Don't say yes if it's bad, okay? We have to do one other thing. Sapper it. Okay, we're going to do Sapper it.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Alright. Oh my god! Stream of consciousness drunk Kevin is my favorite Kevin. It's not drunk, it's slightly inebriated. Stream of consciousness slightly inebriated. How long? This is, have it on my calendar. It's so funny, like when you look at my calendar, it's like Dignation and there's like this like sober weeks
Starting point is 01:23:32 and like they literally start right after this Dignation. So. Bro, I didn't drink yesterday. I'm very happy. One day. I did not drink that one day. And I'm very proud of myself. Now we're going to the holidays. So all bets are off. All right
Starting point is 01:23:48 That was super fun. Super fun. Excited up for us to make love to your mother. We're gonna loop that one It's on and we hope to see you at South by Southwest Please if you're there get a ticket get your ass in get your ass to Mars Southwest. Please, if you're there, get a ticket, get your ass in, get your ass to Mars. Dignation.show is the place to go to get the link to the ticket stuff. And we'll add that on there.
Starting point is 01:24:12 And then, yeah, happy holidays, everyone. We'll see you, we'll be back in three weeks. We will be back in three, maybe two. Long story, I'll tell you about it afterwards. Love you guys. See you later. Peace. One, one, one, one, one, one, one.

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