Diggnation (rebooted) - Netflix Wants HBO, Founders Want Manners, and AI Wants Your Face
Episode Date: December 10, 2025Alex and Kevin break in the new Digg warehouse studio with brandy cocktails, French pastry flexes, and a surprisingly serious challenge—can Alex stay sober for all of 2025?They cover Netfli...x’s rumored $84B move to buy Warner Bros. Discovery (yes, including HBO and DC Comics), AI tools that drop your face into fake movie scenes, and the rise of “etiquette camps” for startup founders. Also: teens in Australia are happy to be banned from social media, a spider-shaped robot now performs endoscopies, and the famous Japanese 7-Eleven egg salad sandwich finally lands in the U.S.—with questionable results.All that, plus rucking vests, doomscroll detoxing, and a Kindle Color that might actually be good.SPONSORSZBiotics Go to https://zbiotics.com/DIGG and use code DIGG at checkout for 15% off any first-time order of ZBiotics probiotics.Henson Shaving Go to https://hensonshaving.com/DIGG and enter DIGG at checkout to get a free pack of 100 blades with your purchase. (Note: You must add both the blades and the razor for the discount to apply.)Wispr Flow Try it free at https://wisprflow.ai/diggMonarch Money Use code DIGG at https://monarch.com for half off your first year.DeleteMe Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to https://joindeleteme.com/DIGG and use promo code DIGG at checkout.⏱️ CHAPTERS00:00 Intro 03:00 Holiday cocktails get dangerously brandy-forward 04:41 Kevin explains his weighted rucking vest 07:23 Inside Digg’s new office + upcoming community features 13:06 New Year’s goals: chess apps and digital pianos 15:00 The bet: Can Alex stay sober for all of 2025? 21:10 Netflix may buy Warner Bros. Discovery for $84B 30:28 Silicon Valley founders now attend etiquette bootcamp 41:28 Australian teens are glad social media is banned 49:10 Nano Banana AI drops you into fake movie scenes 53:40 Deepfakes, bot farms, and internet misinformation 1:03:37 Pill-sized robot crawls your gut for science 1:09:05 Kindle Color Scribe vs. the Remarkable showdown 1:18:57 Japan’s viral 7-Eleven egg sandwich hits the U.S.
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Coming up on this episode of Dignation, we're going to talk Netflix Warner Bros. Merger.
And also I try to bet him to go 12 months with no Jack Daniels.
You can do it.
Welcome to Dignation.
Also potentially hazardous to your health.
All right, moving on.
Why do you have flies in your freaking house?
I've noticed this earlier.
It's Southern California and I have fruit.
Zodby and put hearing in the title, and I don't want to do it.
Dignation.com.
Hello everybody, and welcome to Dignation episode number 24.
I'm Alex Albrecht.
And I'm Kevin Rose. Dignation covers some of the weekly hottest stories on the social news platform.
Dig.com, DIWG.com.
That is correct.
Happy Thanksgiving, Kevin.
Happy holidays.
How was your Thanksgiving?
Thanksgiving was very chill.
Yes.
Basically just had my wife's two brothers came over.
Okay.
Okay, cool.
They like to smoke a little bit of the chichas.
Ah, the chichorone.
Yeah, and so they went and hid in the back for my girls.
I don't know why I'm telling it.
It's family.
It's holidays.
Everybody wants to get.
A lot of food at that point.
A lot of food.
But we had a really good kind of like pre-made situation from the grocery store.
Oh, nice.
You just kind of like get everything's already done.
You think it's up.
It saves time.
Oh, dude.
And it's so, it's like, Thanksgiving can be a headache when you really, like, put the pedal down.
I went down to my little sister's place in Orange County.
How's she doing?
She's doing great.
Yeah.
We had a blast.
My folks were in.
They just came up for the day.
I mean, it was really easy because it was just like a quick up and back.
Yeah.
Or down and back, I guess.
Do they give you a hard time for drinking?
No.
Okay.
I know that happened one time.
What?
You said your dad was like, you should probably cut back a little?
I mean, that is a common theme.
Are they going to watch the show?
Yeah, of course.
Okay, sorry.
Hi.
No, they don't.
It's fine.
They're all like, hey, you know, whatever.
It's fine.
But no, yeah, it was really cool.
But I will say I did something interesting.
My older sister, Nikki, she, growing up, summers in San Diego, there was a place up the street for my grandparents
called the French pastry shop.
And we would always go up and get these, they're called Elephants.
ears or in French they're called pomnier but they're like the curled sort of like they have like
a consistency of a croissant but they're sugar yeah yeah fucking love them my older sister made them
no way at home yeah and I was like what the you could make them and so I called her she walked
me through it and I went to a cookie like exchange holiday thing and I fucking made pomnieres did you
bring it today no because they don't bother the cookie party dude I'm gonna show you a picture
and then I'll give it to them out because I don't have it on my
What are you like in your ear?
I fucking love my air.
I don't care what people say.
Little Ben's.
Look at this.
Boom.
Oh yeah, I know those little bastards.
Those are tasty.
Fucking look how great they look.
You know what's good, a little coffee with that in the morning?
Yeah, bro.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
So, get out there and bake people.
It's better, it's easier than you think.
Is it really?
I guess so.
Justin's here.
Hi, Justin.
Hey, it's so good to be here.
I love that we skip right over him wearing a fucking...
Yeah, yeah.
We can't just pretend like the vest in the room is not in the room with us.
Yeah.
Or the vest is in the room with us.
It's a holiday vest.
It's a holiday vest.
No, it's something else.
We'll talk about it a minute, but it's good to see you.
Thank you for making us a little morning cocktail.
That's right.
This morning we are doing now that Kevin is back...
Full force.
No, I was going to say responsibly on the sauce or to the side of the sauce.
Yeah.
This is a...
That's a...
This is eggnog with some cinnamon and a little bit of brandy, but a very healthy doctor-recommended amount.
That is crude.
This does feel medically necessary.
Do you like the brandy?
Give it a sip.
I do.
I have to say it's got like a...
It's got a little bit of...
Yeah.
I like it.
I'm like that little girl
who's eating the thing for her mom.
I will say you did not pick the best brandy, but...
This is what we've got.
And so...
Are you saying if Ian Jay,
if you want to sponsor us, we're still open to it.
We're still open.
Change people's minds and hearts.
Yeah, that's a...
You know, but it works.
Hey, I like it.
You don't love it, though.
You already said it that far away.
Well, I did because we have...
I want to make sure that we take our...
are before time saying.
I picked it up at the checkout aisle.
I was like, oh, yeah, Brandy, sure, why not?
Yeah.
Sorry.
I mean, yes.
It is brandy.
It is technically brandy.
Okay, the vest.
Okay, let's talk about the vest real quick.
All right.
So, what are you wearing a BMX style?
The only thing it's missing are the nipples from Batman and Robin.
Amazing.
Yeah, that's awesome.
There are add-ons for this.
My friend put those nipples on that suit.
Oh, my friend Greg Aronowitz.
Incredible thing to be known for.
He literally was like, I'm forever known as the guy who actually put the nipples on the suit.
Because he wants to be.
I mean, I love it.
They're known for that.
Yeah, that's amazing.
Okay.
So what is this?
All right.
And why do you have it on?
So this vest, a buddy of mine, sent it to me.
So rucking is kind of a big thing where you wear these, like, big weighted backpacks.
I got one for Christmas from my brother-in-law, and it's like 25 pounds, and I never put it on because it hurts.
No, it does hurt, but it burns extra calories, and it also actually is really good for bone density.
because you have load on your shoulders.
Now I've got to wear it around.
This is a micro-weighted thing, which is only 10 pounds,
but you can strap and you can actually hook in on the inside.
It has little clips.
You're hooking up to 20 pounds.
It's a little ball weights.
Inside.
They're not only sacks inside the thing.
Not little metal sacks holding you down?
They're full on sheets of like weight.
Oh, sheets of weight.
Yeah. Got it.
But those are just ribbed for fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This whole thing is ripped.
But I will say that you're supposed to put a t-shirt over it.
You can.
So you wouldn't even know.
you're wearing it. But you like the aesthetic.
No, I don't like the aesthetic. I did it for the show.
Oh, you did it for the show. I'm not going to wear this outside.
I mean, you're about to... But you are. You were. I am.
But it's kind of cool. I just, you know, for the ruckers out there,
the people that are into this that want to burn an extra 100 calories a day just by wearing
a light vest around. Oh. I don't know. It's just one of those things.
Wait, so that's what rucking. I thought rucking was like when you go on a hike and you add weight.
Well, yes. But this is more like...
Is that what it's called a ruck sack?
Mm-hmm.
This is, this is urban.
rucking is what this is yeah it's like the parkour of city rucking yeah exactly oh the parkor
of rucking i don't know how elevated he just made it feels good though it's like actually
protection at the same time like if someone came up in like spanks vibe too it's got it's like it does
have a bit of girder garter yeah yeah got something here garters for a leg uh like it's both
workout gear and also i could be singing in like the ymCA band yeah and that's what i kept
It feels like you want to say I'm fit, but I also like to be called daddy.
That's what it kind of feels like.
Both are true.
I mean, who doesn't want to be called daddy at a certain point?
I mean, me.
Anyway, that is amazing.
I love that.
A good holiday gift for those of the Rutgers out there.
Yeah.
So.
Do you guys want to, we're in a completely new sponsor.
I was just about to say, I literally was just about to say, welcome to the new dig offices.
because we had unceremoniously left the previous dig offices within the day.
Yeah, our landlord went out of business.
Which, you know, happens.
Happens.
Happens.
But I have to say, this is a much better set.
It is a better space.
Yeah.
We're in kind of like a warehouse kind of set up, very open.
Up here, we've got the studio up in the top loft area.
We've got all of our folks who work on dig down there working as well.
And beneath us are some of our meeting rooms as well as a kitchen.
so we're fully ready for a brand new space.
It's going to be fantastic.
When new communities come out?
Ooh.
I've been instructed by everyone but Kevin Rose
that I'm not allowed to say the date.
And Kevin doesn't know the date
because if he knew the date
that he would say the date.
Very, very soon.
And we know because this is what we hear from people.
That's what they ask.
They're just like, I'm enjoying dig.
Not everybody says that, but I'd say most people say it.
I'm enjoying dig, but I just, I want the niches.
I want the spaces.
These topic rooms are,
way too broad. And we know that. We know you want to get your weird on. You get your freak on,
like Kevin with his vest on. I will have the best vesting community out there. That's right. That's
right. Rock. Flash rock. Yeah. Yeah. We are going to get those out the door as soon as
humanly possible. And I say that, I mean, like, it's closer than it is far, is what I would say to that.
One of the fun things that, like, without giving an actual date to tease out, is like,
What's working on your back, like on your back end?
What is working that you can see today that other people can't?
Like, what can you do right now?
Oh, you can straight up spin up a community on our side,
on our testing servers that you're doing.
We're making sure all the visuals are there.
You can, you know, upload the customizations you want on there as well as one of the things
that we're really passionate about.
And we hear about a lot, which is like, if you're building a community space,
how do you ensure that you don't have overpowered moderators
or people that kind of want to control the conversation
in these places. And so one of the things that we've decided is from day one, how do we make sure
that there is a visible audit log that you can actually see the decisions being made by the leadership
in those spaces, which I think like, you know, it really works both ways. Number one, for you
assessing a community to be a part of, hey, do I like the way this one's being managed? But also on
the other side, I think there's a lot of thankless jobs that when somebody is running a community,
we should be celebrating the work that they're doing. And you can really see how much work goes
into making a great space for all people that show up every day.
Yeah. One of the things that Jess and I talk about, we actually did to call this weekend, the beginning of next year is it going to be a special time because not only is the open taxonomy going to come out, but also that's at the point where you say, okay, we've done the work to kind of get to, you know, more or less in some different ways, feature parity with Reddit. And now is when the fun begins. Now is when that question around what, how is this different? Why is this a different experience and like what is uniquely digs? And that is the questions that, you know, we're going to answer beginning of next year.
which is going to be kind of fun.
Yeah, it's been like, how do we get the, like, most simplistic, primitive out the door
where it's like, okay, great.
Like, I understand this is, you know, it's forum software, but upgrade it for the modern world.
Now, what makes this so unique?
And those are the innovations we get to build on top of that, which is why getting it out
to as many people in an open beta form and getting it in their hands is what's really,
really important right now and allowing people to spin up those communities so we can see
the creativity and the niches that really pop up and make this space unique in our own.
So when, because open betas has not been announced yet.
He's not going to say when.
I'm not allowed to say when.
No, but mostly because Kevin's in the room.
And if I say it, he's going to say it.
I know it.
I love it.
The problem is like you're probably plus or minus a week in either direction.
Of course.
And then, you know, you don't want to like get everyone so excited.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's safe to say you're like early next year, really early.
It is very early next year.
Yeah.
So everybody get ready.
We're going to be kicking off.
Obviously, Kevin's going to launch slash Ruck Around.
and find out, and it'll be a fun time.
Oh, God, that's good.
I love it.
By the way, you have to now have that as a community.
You can rock around and find out.
But I will be there.
Oh, my God.
That's amazing.
Well, thank you.
We're happy to do it.
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Shall we get into the first story?
No, first New Year's resolutions.
Oh, right.
Real quick, because we're coming up.
on new year. I mean, yeah, this is true. All right. So I'm going to give you mine real quick,
rapid fire. And then you give me yours. Do you, you don't have any, do you know?
I'll pick, I'll pick some right now. All right. Number one, I've been doing chess lessons on
Duolingo. Whoa, first off, why on Duolingo? Because they offer chess now and they have a cute
little owl that does things and there's this little guy with a mustache. So you're, is it in Japanese?
No, no. I don't know why are you doing it on Duolingo? No, because Duolingo.
has, like, things now.
They do piano, they do chess.
They have, like, less.
Oh, so it's not just...
There's not languages anymore.
So it's duo lingo.
It's like, yeah, duolingo, like lingo and something else.
Oh, it's like lingo duo.
Chessie, lingo.
Yeah, but so you can learn chess.
Arrogato cosi chess.
You can learn all kinds of things.
Okay, all right.
They're running more and more to their portfolio things.
Are you good at chess?
And I feel like we should play chess.
I'm getting better.
They teach you all the opening moves.
They actually have you play against the computer.
And then they have you play real.
people online.
Oh, how does that go?
So far, I won't, like, all my matches so far.
Nice.
But I really don't know what I'm doing, but it's fun.
It's probably too little.
So that's fun.
Piano, I'm going to be playing around the piano.
You're going to learn how to play piano?
Well, I found this thing called the Ralee, which is pretty...
I've seen ads for that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's pretty cool because they have this thing called the airwave that sits on top of the keyboard
and it has a camera that goes down.
And so not only do you get their software that kind of instructs you, but it watches
your finger placement.
Oh, so it can be like,
bink, bach, well, it gives you little
shoes and stuff
with, like, how you're doing.
Well, that's kind of fun.
It's pretty sweet.
I haven't gotten the device
yet because they've been back-quartered,
so...
Oh, and can you maximize your screen real quick?
Maximize it?
Yeah.
Oh, that is the Ralee.
And the last thing is that
I was going to ask you
if you wanted to join in this one,
your resolution.
Okay.
Dry January.
I mean, the short answer is yes.
Well, the long answer.
Well, the long answer is, didn't you do dry?
Is this for me?
It's for us.
Oh, it's not for you?
No, we're both doing it.
Oh, so it is.
Yeah.
I mean, yes, I have partaken in the dry January.
I usually go into fuck drinking February because it's the shortest of the months.
I see.
Only 28 days.
One question, what would, is there a world where you would do a bet to do one year of no drinking?
I mean, sure.
I don't know why I would.
Would you do it? Oh, here it comes.
You mean you would bet me a certain amount of money
if I could go a year without drinking.
And if you break, you pay me one-tenth of that amount of money.
I mean, you better bleep out how much money is going to say.
Would you do it for...
Maybe.
One year.
This is good for...
your liver. I mean, it is, but then it's like, do I not want to have, like, a glass of wine
with a steak for a year? Yeah, I don't know. I'd have to think about that. Okay. Think about
it. Think about it. I don't, I, I don't fear it. Like, I feel like if I was an actual
alcoholic, I would, like, I'd be sweating right now. You know what I mean? And I'm not sweating.
Like, I'm, like, you might be after, like, January. Dude, I went, I went. Yeah.
That was hard swallow right there.
I saw that.
We could probably get that as a replay.
You're like, Jessica, can I get a triple real quick?
Just really, uh,
yeah, I got to go out with style.
I'm going out all the way for December.
I'd like to be unconscious for the first month.
He's just on the couch for the entire rest of December.
Just eating ice cream.
Just ice cream ramen and, yeah.
What's the number that would get you to say yes, right now?
Yeah, right now.
Let me think about it.
Right now.
What's your number?
And don't be like,
I mean, it's, I was, I was, I was literally, over that.
Dude, that's way too much money.
You're taking away a freedom of, and I think that is a big thing.
It's not about you.
You did it for free.
I think that's it's, it's about the freedom of choice.
It's the freedom to decide I want to do that.
So if it's removed for me, that's got to be worth it for the, for the, for the, for the, the,
head space that it occupies in that way.
Plus, it's going to make you healthier.
Now, not a lot of things make me healthier.
And by the way, that's why we could just do it today.
It's because it makes me healthier.
And I'm not doing it, right?
So, clearly that is not enough.
Okay.
And the other thing is, like, for the first number you had mentioned,
you know, you get like a month in,
and you're like, Jesus, Christ, do I really want to keep going?
But for...
By the way, I agree.
Every time I would be like, ooh, I'd love a glass of wine.
You were like, but not for...
I'm betting that you're going to fail,
because what I really want...
Is...
No, no, no, no.
Because if you give me a 10...
I know, like if it says
you would give me
that you would do that.
So I'm trying to find that fine
line. I see. If we say
$500 dollars, you're
nowhere near expecting me to
give you $1.000 by fuck up.
Well, number one, you're going to do it.
Yeah. Yeah.
And number two,
you're not going to give me that money.
This is so funny because you're asking
what's the number where you will definitely do it
and then we tell you and you're like, well, that's too much
because we'll definitely do it.
I think I know what the number is.
I think I know what the number is.
Yeah, pay for my health, Kevin.
Here's what the number is.
If you feel so bad.
Okay, here's the number.
What, no.
Why? What's happening?
I'll just think about it.
I will think about it.
It's like, no joke.
So one of my New Year's resolutions
is get money off of Kevin.
And I think I might be able to join this year.
This might be the year.
I bet you we could get a Dignation Pot to come together.
A Dignation Pot.
Like a lot of cash coming in and be like, Alex, no drinking.
Like, go for me.
But we'd have to have a cam on your ass every night, like sitting on the couch being like,
no, you know what it is?
I have to go to bed by blowing in one of those, like, I'm not allowed to go to bed until I blow into my, my sponsors, whatever it's called.
Breath of Lizer, yeah.
It's like, I can't turn my car on.
I'm like, oh, God, here we go.
I think that's the number, dude.
But again, a full year of not enjoying one having, like, just that one little, like,
I just want a little nip of something.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm going out to a beautiful dinner at some fancy place, which, of course, I don't.
I get it.
It's addiction.
Well, I think it's harder in like a partner dynamic.
We're also, it's just like you're going to a nice dinner.
It's always a nice dinner.
You give my wife.
You know, you're going to be nice dinner.
We both.
Heather would do it for less than.
I mean, she would totally.
But because she's more like, we got to stop drinking.
And I was like, we are stopping drinking.
In the morning.
All right, so good luck.
Keep you posted.
Oh, should you talk about the holiday show?
Keep you posted?
We're going to do a little holiday.
We are.
We don't know.
We're going to do something fun for the holidays.
We can figure out of what.
Just before,
it was a mosquito.
Just before the Christmas season, or Hanukkah or any of this, Kwanza.
We're going to drop an episode that is our favorite little tiny pockets of episodes,
also known as segments through the last year
and put it all into one
and do a little intro
with, we used to do,
can you throw back to that like intro
we did for our old holiday episode?
I have it on the internet.
Roll the clip.
Roll the clip.
Yeah, we'll figure it out.
Yeah, so we'll look kind of like that
but older with gray hairs and whatnot.
And, oh, yeah, you don't,
you got grays on your beard.
Yeah, but you just said gray hairs.
Yeah.
These aren't hairs.
I get a lot of greas of hair.
These are be beers.
All right, so it'll be fun.
Yeah, it'll be super cool.
We'll do something fun for y'all
as it were, and fun for us.
And for us.
All right, let's get into the first episode, as Kevin likes to say.
Netflix to acquire Warner Brothers Discovery for, this says $72 billion.
I believe it's up to $84 billion at this point, $82 billion.
U.S. at dollars, this is sent in by Comdack.
Comdack has a lot of my, has a lot of my episodes or my stories right now.
That's great.
Here's the thing.
Have you heard about the whole, because you heard about,
Skydance
purchasing Paramount, right?
So Skydance is Larry Ellison's son
started a production company
and started really killing it.
I mean, they've made a bunch of movies.
They were a bunch of Brad Pitt movies early.
He did all the Mission Impossible movies.
So really, and dealing with Paramount
with the Mission Impossible stuff.
Yeah.
It became one of those things
where Paramount was starting to not
you know, be able to work as well as a studio. They were losing some money. They didn't really
know what they were going to do. A lot of production has left Los Angeles. And so, you know,
the studio space was not really something that was being utilized as much. And there was always
speculation that something was going to happen. Skydance comes in and purchases Paramount, which is
crazy because it's a production company now owning an old school studio.
That's crazy.
As soon as it happened, everybody was like,
is Skydance going to go and purchase Warner Bros. Discovery?
Because Warner Brothers Discovery is another one of those big sort of like,
you know, legacy, old school, you know, studios,
and kind of one of the only ones left.
You know what I mean?
I mean, I guess there's universal, but...
So there was a whole talk, and at the time,
a lot of people were talking about, like,
well, what if Netflix comes and purchases it?
And it was really interesting because Netflix, Ted Sorrentos, was like,
why would we want a legacy studio
where the future?
Well, cut to, they are
planning on acquiring
Warner Brothers Discovery as
it stands. And I don't know if they're going to purchase
the discovery piece, because I think they're purchasing
the studio and the, because
this is what always happens, like when Disney bought
Fox Studios, 20th century.
So I think they're going to get HBO, HBO Max
and the
studio piece, but I don't know if they're going to end up getting
the discovery piece because they might break those apart.
Anyway, is there a ton of IP that they get with this?
Like when you, because there's someone that is, is that what it is?
That's a big one.
Harry Potter.
Yeah, Game of Thrones.
Game of Thrones.
Wow.
That's huge.
I mean, it's literally like their list of what they have is immense.
So even just buying DC would be enough to be like that.
Why does the market not like it though?
Like I'm looking at Netflix right now over the last five days is down 12%.
So think about this, right?
Netflix makes its own content and has a distribution arm.
Warner Brothers makes its own content
and has a distribution arm
but its distribution arm is sort of a legacy cable provider
right so if you think about like
HBO shows like Gamma Thrones
is a perfect example right
like Game of Thrones was a television show
that then also streamed on HBO Max
well what if the only place to be able to see
all of DC's comic book stuff was on Netflix
you know what I mean? Yeah so all of a sudden
you're going Netflix now
and there is no other place to see it
right? So it's that consolidation that everybody worries about. I mean, I totally get that and that
when I think about Netflix, I think about original content, which is awesome. You think about shows
that they've developed in-house that have been, become household hits, which is amazing.
Yeah, stranger things. Strangeer things. And like there's a witcher. Or they'll do like some kind
of crazy boxing event or they're known for some of these big kind of magical moments. Oh yeah.
The Tyson thing was on there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I feel like it's been the HBO's and the others that
have always had these big, massive brands that've held on to.
100%.
And for me, Netflix is never my first choice.
And I know I'm not like the average consumer, but for me, I'm like, okay, what's on HBO?
Yep.
What's on, you know, mostly movies.
So like what's on Apple?
What's on some of these bigger providers.
And I think of Netflix only when someone says, oh, have you checked out that one show
on Netflix.
It's never like, oh, let me just see what's on Netflix.
And I know a lot of people are like that.
A lot of people are like, let me see what's on Netflix.
But this gives me many more reasons.
to go to Netflix.
Which is why they're willing...
This is why they're willing to pay $84 or $82 billion for it
is because they want you to be on Netflix.
They don't want you to go to HBO.
Right.
But the problem is that, well, you're going to pay whatever...
They're going to be able to force you to pay because...
So like right now, the way that it kind of works out, at least for me, is I kind of go,
is there something in the Paramount world that I want to see that justifies my $10
bucks a month for Paramount Plus?
and when that answer is yes
I pay my paramount...
Has it been?
It has been, yeah.
What do you watch with it?
It's weird.
For me, it's like,
it was a little bit
the Star Trek stuff,
but some of the Star Trek shows
just don't really resonate with me nowadays,
so I kind of dip in, dip out.
Weirdly, it's, and I don't,
this is not a reason to keep it
because I could easily just stream it
through my spectrum cable box or whatever,
but I watch Amazing Race and Survivor.
I'm like...
I just am sort of, like, addicted to those, like,
classic old reality shows for some reason.
But there's good stuff out there, too.
I haven't yet gotten into the Yellowstone stuff,
but people say that it's, like, so worth watching.
Oh, first season, it was all right.
Yeah.
But anyway, but then the thing that's crazy is,
just today, as of day of recording,
Skydance Paramount, just came in with a,
what are those things called?
A hostile takeover.
A hostile bid for, like, $50.
to share for Warner Bros. Discovery to purchase it instead of Netflix. And then there's the whole
regulatory stuff. So I, you know, it's funny. I had my text chains with some buds blew up because
we're all entertainment industry people. And it was just like, oh, this is so bad. And now we're, you know,
what are we going to do? And blah, blah, blah. And then one friend chimed in was like, I just hope that
it doesn't get past the regulatory stuff. And it's interesting because Ted Serentos, who's the co-CEO of
Netflix, had a meeting with Trump before the deal was announced. But Trump just went on record
saying that he's like, uh, this is interesting. We're going to have to look into it. That would be
a lot of consolidation and we're not usually like that happy about that type of stuff. So it's going
to be really interesting. Even if, even if there's a hostile bid takeover with, you know,
Skydance and Paramount, like there's so many reasons why that may not go through.
Yeah. But at the same time, it's like also, like, Netflix is huge in New Mexico.
Like, that's where they shoot all their stuff. So it's like, then they're going to have the stage here.
Ah, thank you.
Oh, thank you. Oh, look in there. Nice.
Yeah, see? You got the Zbiotics.
Cheers to January.
I mean, if I do the January thing, I get one free month into the bet, which is nice.
All right.
Anyway, so big news in the Hollywood sphere. We will see.
Eyes are on it. We will let you.
know if anything happens over the holidays.
But real quick, though, don't you think
from an entertainment perspective, this move for
Netflix makes a ton of sense to have like such
an esteemed brand behind it? Because
I do think that is the thing. I feel
the same way about Netflix. It's like it's usually
there's like something that crops up every now and then.
But for a lot of times, it's just like, it's like candy.
It's like, oh yeah, this thing came out. It's fun.
It's a silly conceit. Whereas like HBO's
that esteemed media, that's like, even
actors want to work with HBO
and like their shows. Well, the problem
becomes, does HBO make Netflix more like HBO or does Netflix make HBO more like Netflix?
Because some of the stuff that is being put out by Netflix is like, oh man, it's just not
good stuff. But that's the whole thing is like when you hit play on a Netflix thing, you're like,
I'm either going to watch an amazing thing. Right. Yeah. Or it's going to be something they bought for
$2 million from some kids that made it, you know, and you don't know with HBO, every time you hit
play, you're like, there's a pretty high bar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Netflix used to have that, that, that quality
bar. And it's because when Netflix started, I mean, I think all of this boils down to the
unfortunate situation that every single person to a T believes that they're at their heart
a creative person. And most people are not. Yeah. And the worst thing that can happen to a studio
has, has happened to Netflix, which is because Netflix, the way it used to be was, we're tech
people. We don't understand how this creative shit works, but we like this creative person. Here's
some money and make us a cool creative show and then you start getting like house of cards and
all these crazy things and stranger things like they went to the duffer brothers and we're like we don't
you guys do you we'll just pay you but then as they start creeping up and as they start believing
their own press you start getting these executives that are just business spreadsheet people that start
going i'm going to give some creative notes and then you start ending up with you know sorry about
champagne or champagne in paris or whatever which is just like a fucking hallmark movie that has a
Netflix brand on. I mean, it's just, so.
I miss the days of getting my CDs in the mail.
Yeah, I get you.
My DVDs. Yeah, I get you.
Anyway, but so we'll keep on it. We'll let you know how it's going.
This next story is a little bit odd. I just had to pick it because it was odd.
Okay.
So it says a look at an etiquette camp in San Francisco that teaches young founders how to dress,
act, and talk amid shifting expectations as industry gains power.
So, whoa.
It's like a finishing school for.
tech bros?
I know.
It's so bad.
I love it.
I just don't know.
It's going to work.
That's going to work.
Why?
Because most of the young CEOs, I feel like that I meet you're in the room with
they're just as insecure as anyone else.
And I think to be told, we can help the style part of it.
Because it's like, I mean, look at Jeff Bezos.
Look at Elon Musk before they became who they are now.
And the way that they dressed with like the high waist of pants of the tucked in polos.
Like, if you can feel cool ahead of time, I don't know.
It's probably going to be worth it for that.
Well.
Well, by the way, who's saying what is cool?
See, that's the problem.
I think that you have different VCs that are out there that are funding these young entrepreneurs.
Yeah.
And some of them are like, you know, Ivy League, like sweater vest, like super preppy.
I can imagine a finishing school for founders probably makes them look more like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they're like, oh, you're one of us.
You're one of our people.
Yeah.
Here's this flea vest.
That's got the VC label on it.
Good luck.
I want my founders when a hoodie and jeans.
Like, they should be worried about what they're trying to build.
You described to me.
Yeah, you're so sweet.
There you are.
I'm not going to his hoodie.
Are you wearing jeans?
He did really well.
You said Justin.
Yeah, we sent Justin.
Three weeks, hard labor.
But I feel like if they're not, if they're focused on their fashion,
your eyes on the wrong thing.
I know.
Well, but, but, devil's advocate.
Oh.
There are some very smart people.
that are more than awkward in the room.
Yes.
And there is something to be said about, like, how do you give a pitch?
How do you speak to an investor?
How do you speak to your, you know, clientele?
Like, what, there's lots of, there are certain things that I think people could benefit from.
I agree with that.
The way that this is pitched feels very like that alpha male, like, boot camp where they just, like, beat the shit out of idiots for money.
Yeah.
I was like, eh, but.
No, go ahead, Mel.
So I grew up doing a lot of code switching.
growing up in like a primarily like Latino lower class and then went to a private school and it was
a culture shock. And I learned very quickly like it sucks, but I need to be able to speak the
speak at the very least. And that's just through immersion. If there is a crash course,
maybe, maybe that's worthwhile. I just know it is a necessary skill to work within the
bubbles of certain industries. I think that is true on just a general way that you approach a conversation
and you're just likeability of who you are, but not so much on the dress side. The dress side
or that sort of makes me just like, no, no, no, that doesn't matter. But there's certainly
other skills, like as simple as the vernacular that's used within certain industries that are
important. You either pick up on it through immersion. You don't have the ability to immerse yourself
because of certain, like, chicken or egg,
are you let into the industry or not?
Right. Like, what skills you have to get in?
Yeah. The number one thing that I,
the number one mistake I've seen over many,
many years of watching founders without a doubt is just acting like they know
something they don't know. At the end of the day,
no one expects you to be this like perfect Swiss Army knife of all knowledge.
It's like you are there for a reason. You've got something that you really want to tackle
that you believe should exist in the world.
and you are the domain expert for that little sliver of thing.
I don't expect you to know what EBITI is.
I don't expect you to know all these like esoteric and larger kind of like, you know,
almost like you have to be a CPA or something to understand these terms.
Yeah, there's a reason why I see if those exist.
Yeah, exactly.
All you have to be like is, you know, I just, I'm not schooled up in that area.
And that is where someone can say, oh, well, let me help you out.
Let me introduce you the right people that you need to be talking to.
Yep, yep, yep.
Because at the end of the day, it's like, how do I surround this entrepreneur with great people
so they can succeed, and if they don't tell you where they're...
I'm sorry, you don't know how to fill up it.
But don't you think that that is kind of a pitch for this topic?
Like, keep it simple, keep it easy for the things that elude you, like fashion, like understanding
these things.
And like, I'm just saying, I'm not saying it's the right thing for everybody, but I think
that there are a lot of people who simply just don't know how to dress either for
their body type or, or like, they don't want to have to think about it.
They want it to be something that just, I know when I go to the room, I'm not going to be
mocked or feel weird.
And maybe that's just the base level.
It's a Steve Jobs thing, right?
Like, the reason why he wore the same thing all the time
was because he just didn't have to think about it.
Yeah, I got to say, though,
there was this one engineer that I met,
and he had, like, a bedhead where, like,
the hair was pushed up in the back end.
Yeah.
And I liked him better because of that.
Because I was like, you know what?
Like, he's just working on his computer
and he can fucking go to sleep and thinking about numbers.
Like, great.
You know, like...
That's what I want that guy to do.
Yeah, exactly.
There's certainly a phase where being genuine
and being just a good person is not teachable.
There are other than you that are teachable.
Yeah, I'd have to see the whole,
it's easy to slam something like this.
100%.
Because they're like,
ah, finishing school for entrepreneurs, like lame.
But at the same time, maybe we haven't seen the course
where like what does it actually look like when you sit down
and maybe it is this more like little tiny polishing of things
versus like a tech pro.
Like what is it when they dressed them up and like the makeover,
like celebrity makeup and stuff shit, you know?
Maybe it's awful, though.
I don't know.
It's awful.
Yeah, yeah, I do.
But I'm just saying, my gut reaction is like,
helping out some kiddos with how they feel about themselves.
You're a bad thing.
You're a first time CEO.
Yeah.
Would you go and do this?
No.
But I feel comfortable with what I wear.
Like, it's pretty much the same thing.
Solid colored shirts and hoodies.
Like, that's what I like on me.
Plus your wife helps you, help dress you.
She is so good at that.
Yeah, that's true.
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Oh, boy. All right. Well, let's get to the next story then, shall we? Everyone will miss socializing, but it's also a relief. Five young teens on Australia's social media ban. This was submitted by Silveson. Sylvison. So I had heard this. There was a town or a village in Ireland that got rid of all social media for kids in school.
She looks pissed.
She's pissed.
Yeah, look at that.
She's like,
fuck you taking my social media's away.
How do I even talk to my friends now?
So, last year, Australia banned all social media for kids under 16.
And it was a very interesting way that they did it
because they didn't put the onus on the kids
and they didn't put the onus on the families.
They put the onus on the social media companies.
So they said Instagram, meta, well, I guess meta owns Instagram,
but, you know, X, TikTok, all of those, you need to age-verify people in Australia or you have to take your platforms down.
So it was a slow process, but what they did was they now, a year later, caught up with, this is the Guardian, they caught up with five teens and basically asked how they thought it was going.
And the really interesting thing was a lot of them said that it was a relief.
that because nobody had access to it, there wasn't this, am I missing out? Who am I missing out?
One of the things that I thought was really interesting was there were, there are like online quizzes.
And most of the online quizzes have questions about current memes.
And so these kids would take these online quizzes with their friends, almost like was Jackbox or whatever.
So they'd like hop on Zoom and hang out with their friends and take these quizzes.
And they would always miss some of these questions because they weren't seeing the memes.
But I bring this up because Heather and I have both in the last two weeks really focused on not opening up Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and just really being like zen about it.
And I cannot tell you how much better I feel.
It was almost instantaneous.
It was really crazy.
How are you getting the good cat videos and shit?
You showed me that when we sat down.
Right, because somebody sent it to me.
Oh, so you're loud.
So this is what I, but only if someone sends it.
to me. So, like, I have a buddy that sends me cooking stuff.
Like, every day, like, you get, like, 30 a day for you.
You're like, do I think you don't turn to me? Not 30 a day.
How many?
I'll get, like, five.
And you'll, what? That's, that's like, dude.
That's a lot. You can't be like, I don't use social media and you open it five times
a day to check shit.
One video.
One video.
Five videos every day.
So one video.
That's opening it five times.
Right, but that's not using social media.
That is so not.
Well, okay, I'll defend you here.
Thank you.
That is a, that it's very different from you actively just.
doing for an hour and a half on the toilet
watching video after video after video
dude I would sit when I would go
to bed I would go to bed I'd get
into bed and I would open up Instagram and I would
just fucking just go
just like seeing stuff thinking I was like oh
seeing some interesting information I get a lot of
woodworking stuff now I get some good
shit but do you need that
yes okay well
listen I like
I like cats being weird shit
I cannot lie
I like cats doing weird shit
I like woodworking stuff, a little bit of Alan Wassel, Zin's action action.
I like just, I get a good, my mix is good.
My mix is good.
Yeah, but so what I would suggest.
Everyone's why I'm not supposed to like.
Right, 100%.
I get that.
You don't talk about it.
You're like, yeah, they're not really going to like that because I might show up somewhere.
Yeah.
You know, but it's also, you know, like, is that AI?
So what I would say is you could set yourself up a situation where you were like,
I'm going to go and look at woodworking videos for.
15 minutes, right? And then go to the accounts that you know and see what they've put up recently.
Go to another account that you know, see what they've put up recently. But for me personally,
the, honestly, the, like, weird, like, I just, it just made me feel so much better. I felt
like, and I was doing more stuff. Because that's one of the things that these kids say is that
they're like, we're playing board games more. We're doing, you know, connecting with people more.
I think this is the age where you need to cut it out.
I mean, there's been a lot of research on this.
And one of the things that came out in the research, which was just fascinating,
was that the muscles that we build around social norms and engaging with each other
and understanding, oh, what I said is not social cues, all that stuff, all that, it's this age.
And if you only do it via text, all of that is lost, and you don't build any of that.
And at least horrible things down the road.
But that said, I got an app for you to build.
This is your first app of the new year.
I'm excited.
It's called 25.
Five topics, five posts per day.
That's all you get.
See, I'm into woodworking.
I'm into whiskey drinking.
I'm into blah, blah, blah.
It curates, grabs all that stuff.
And you get 25 posts per day.
It's just a little appy-dappy.
And you're like, done.
I mean, that's not a bad idea.
Not a bad idea.
Because then you don't, the problem is drift, right?
Because you get in there.
Yeah.
And all of a sudden, you're looking at woodworking.
And then you're like, well, let's look real.
You know, you like.
Okay.
So Kevin's drift is very specific.
It's like woodworking.
I was talking about, ha.
My job happens quickly.
I'm like, oh, woodworking.
Oh, Jesus.
Well, it's funny about I'm scrolling my kids, because, like, my kids will come over.
Scrolling over the kids.
Look at this great woodwork.
Because I can always tell it, because I know people know what I'm talking about.
You ever been in this situation?
You're scrolling and you're like, you're like, look at this.
And they're like, they're carving some intricate object.
You know, like, how amazing is that?
And they're like, cool, next one.
And you're like, go real quick.
You're like, go real quick.
You're like, why are we jogging?
Yeah.
So, 25, I like that.
25, yeah.
Done.
I'll vibe code it tonight before this episode comes on.
I don't know.
But I was just going to say, like for me, and it all kicked off.
There was a, I saw this article where researchers, they basically, the logline of the article was,
researchers have found that social media time actually does physically rot your brain.
And I just went, well, that's fucking horrible.
Yeah.
And I just knew myself.
I was like, God, when I would, like, go.
And so, like, Heather's now doing, like,
Sadooku.
She's doing, like, a bunch of more.
She loves crosswords, so she's doing,
she does all the crossword stuff and wordle and all that stuff.
And I found myself doing that when I would get into bed
instead of going to just, like, Instagram and scroll for the rest of my life.
Tread chess with me on DuLingo.
Oh, 100%, dude, let's pop in.
Well, I can add you with my family count.
I have five slots to get free.
Done.
It's like $120 a year.
I'll give two for free.
Done.
Yeah.
I want it.
And then we'll play chess.
I don't think it's legal, but.
How is that not illegal?
Family.
Family.
Family.
You get those people, you got to use them.
Yeah.
But I do connections.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Love that.
So I'm like,
I'll do connections.
And then I started doing some of the other just things because I was like, wow, I'm here.
What am I going to do?
So there's like other things with like dominoes and putting dominoes and numbers and stuff.
And I was like, this fun.
Anyway.
It's amazing.
It's effective.
I think that's a healthy thing for you to be doing.
Thank you.
It's a brand new you.
It's a brand new me.
Sudoku.
drinking. No doku.
No, no. You're just going to be clean.
I'm going to be clean. I'm going to come in here.
I'm going to be have gone to the CEO camp.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm going to come in with a fucking north face vest for no reason in the middle of Los Angeles.
I'm going to be like, hello gentlemen.
I love that.
Do you have my Earl Grey tea ready for the show?
A slight oat milk please.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All the dash.
Okay, here we go.
Nana, banana. We're not safe.
Uh-huh.
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So Nana Banana is the pro is the new model that just came out.
Not too long ago, from Google, right?
And what's crazy is that, I mean, we've come a long way in like two years.
Yeah.
Like two years ago, I'd be like, hey, can you like put me in this photo?
And it'd be like, I'd have like seven fingers and kind of look like me.
It didn't work.
And now check this out.
So this guy, he's like, nothing is real anymore.
And he starts posting these photos.
Look at this.
Oh, my God.
And so what you get here is actually...
That looks so much like he's on the set of Dark Night.
That's what he's doing.
He's doing these things where he wants to put himself on the set of various movies that he was never at.
Look at this.
Wow.
Like, look at that.
That looks like Dead Cool.
I mean, Wolverine has no head, but I think other than that...
Look at this.
Oh, that's, I mean...
Look at John Snow in the back.
I know that's my, I'm a fan.
You're a fan, too, right?
I don't know.
Yeah, she's nice.
She's not my, like...
Look at this.
That's amazing, dude.
How crazy is this, though?
We have definitely got to the spot where you just can't trust anything that you see.
The thing is, if you look at this right here, I would say, well, let's take the Breaking Bad one.
Like, I would think he probably was on the set.
Yeah, 100%.
Look at the shadow of standing next to him hitting his face there.
Like, there's nothing about this where I would be.
Well, nothing screams.
I mean, that's funny, the one with Thanos,
because you're like, that's a CG character?
How'd that happen?
Yeah, that one looks a little bit fake, right there with Keanu?
Yeah, that one looks a little fake.
The one down there with the chick looks fake.
That could be a statue, though.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I mean, it's pretty cool, though.
That one is nuts.
But it is.
It's one of those things where, now we're going to have to get to this point where...
We just can't trust anything.
You just can't trust anything.
You got to sort of back up your own stuff,
especially with...
And videos are starting to be the same.
way like there's it's it's interesting there's like this trend now that I've noticed
um where you'll see this little thing on Instagram that says like translated by
AI yeah yeah but when you really listen you're like that's a whole AI person right
like that's not even a real and I was like God this is like crazy like the the fact
that you can just build a fake AI person to be like a content creator on Instagram I was
on incident today. And you know the Chinese
like bot farms
are just making people. Yeah, well
there's, this is like one of the things
I was on on this account the other day and it was recommended to me
in that, you know, going sideways situation
and it was like this
therapist that was on there
and was like, the problem that
that men wouldn't have involved, blah, blah, and it was like very
like male slanted where I was like, oh, you're a pretty
pro dude here, you know?
But I could see why I had like, it had like
hundreds of thousands of likes. And I just
clicked through on the account and I want to see who this person is.
Yeah.
And I noticed that they were in a variety of different podcasts, like all podcast scenario
where my blah blah, blah, different setting.
It was like all the things.
And I clicked on every single video.
Every video was the same sentence of what she was saying.
Wow.
And she looked perfect.
Like I would never have guessed that this was fake.
Yeah.
And I was like, whoa, wait a second.
Everything here has hundreds of thousands of likes on it and it's getting propagated to all
these men.
Someone has an agenda here that they want to push to like,
unseat and cause
relationship because this person seemed
like they were like an authority
and then you can see them forwarding the partners
like, see I told you you shouldn't be treating
me like this and just to create this
tension. I was like damn there's
some evil shit going on out there to do you?
Tension is what I mean no offense but that's
like all the like Russian bots and stuff
whenever we have a political vote
they just want disc like
contention. I'm not Russian. They don't care
you're not Russian? Why do you say no offense?
No offense to the Russians
Oh, the Russians, okay.
You're like to me, you're like, no offense on your Russian.
No offense, I know you're a Russian bot farm
is making you a lot of money, but maybe you shouldn't do it.
Yeah, but that's what they...
It's getting hot.
Well, it's a hot best.
The weight.
The weight.
Okay, your extra 10 pounds of sitting weight.
Yeah.
Oh.
That's much better.
It's like just the space bar going across.
Blahler.
Yeah, but it's, it's...
It's interesting because that, I think, sewing discourse is what the bot farms want.
I personally don't know how that benefits anybody.
Oh, dude, think of it this way.
If you want to attack a society and bring them down, you can do it with missiles, you can try and go in the front door.
You know, all the horrible things that are, one, you know, if you take it on any first world country, you're going to get your ass like hand to you back.
Yeah, for sure.
So there's going to be an actual conflict.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you're going to lose all times, the resources, money, all that.
Or you could go and hire internally, secretly, call it 10,000 people.
Okay.
They're all part of a secret organization.
And all you do is sit in groups of 10 people and little product groups like we could do today.
Like we could get together 10 people right now, pull some people, engineers from down there and say, like, how are we going to, what is the angle we want to take just to come up with something that will cause just a little bit of my.
micro friction in households.
And if we can do that at scale,
now we're pockets of 10 people.
You've got 10,000 people.
You're going to be launching hundreds and thousands
of various small micro-settlement campaigns.
Yeah.
That caused tensions.
What's funny is, and listen, like,
I'm not trying to push an anti-Trump agenda here,
but I do you want to say one thing that was interesting
is that there was this pro-Trump account.
And Elon added recently where the account was created.
I heard about this.
And like where they tweet from?
Yeah.
Or they X from.
And it was like Africa.
And it was like, oh, wait a second now.
You know?
And I'm sure this happens on both sides.
So please, if you're a Trump fan, like whatever, it's happening all over the place.
For sure.
But the point being is that you can have, it doesn't matter if you're pro left or pro right.
What you want is the tension.
Yeah, exactly.
And so those accounts can exist on both sides.
Yeah.
But it's, this is what we have to want up with.
It's literally like people.
Americans fighting each other
online. That's the best way to take down the country. And they're not even
Americans. Yes, exactly. It's like they're just these external
forces. Mint to pump you up or whoever else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And be like,
oh, screw that. They're taking it too far. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was never any
American that took it too far. Yeah. It was a bot that took it too far.
There's literally been studies on this. I don't know if you
remember the story of Reddit had accidentally posted
the city with the most visitors.
It was Eglin Air Force Base
because they were doing a campaign on Reddit
to see how to affect people in masses.
And they actually ended up releasing a study
on how to sway opinion by creating bot farms.
They got sued for that, though, right?
There was one bot farm that was created by university
that was on red.
Yeah, totally different story.
That was on the subreddit of,
change my mind as well.
No, totally, totally different story here with the Air Force base doing just massive studies to
really, to the U.S.
It's so crazy.
I mean, honestly, it's like, and it goes back to the Nanobanana Pro, where it's like,
you start to go, the bot farm stuff and all that stuff is hard to combat,
but it gets even harder to combat when you can back stuff up with these fake videos or fake images
or even just the fake context, right?
Like having an LLM do your dirty work for you.
And then you go, yeah, 10 people can be 10,000 people like that.
Right.
And that's even worse, you know.
And then the issue is like the rate of all of this stuff.
Right.
How fast it's improving.
How long they can pose as just like an average user.
I mean, they're infinitely patient.
They can do it forever.
And it's getting cheaper and cheaper to run them every single day.
So that's what's crazy.
Well, also, you think about the, the rate.
of distribution around, like, who understands actually what's going on.
So, like, you know, we're in our 40s and we're, like, looking and be like, oh,
hmm, something's not right there, you know?
Somebody in their 50s is like, oh, that's, wow, I can't believe that happened.
Oh, dude.
My mom, who's in her early 80s, she believes all of this, right?
And so, and then there's a whole gamut of people on what they understand and what's
going on right now.
And it's going to take 10, 20 years until everyone always like, oh, maybe I shouldn't trust
everything that I see, you know?
In 10, 20 years is, is it going to fool us, too?
Right. What does this mean for like court evidence for like,
audio, audio, any media at all. I got to have that conversation. One of our
really good friends is a DA down in San Diego. And I, that next time she's around,
I'm totally having that conversation with her. And there was a guy that left. There was an
engineer that left. It might have been Google. Some big AI guy left. And he was being interviewed
and he said, the world is not prepared for 2027.
Like, people are not prepared for what's going to happen in 2020s.
And you start to go, we'll look at nanobanana versus two years ago.
Right. I know. You know what I mean?
I know, we had elbows and fingers and legs in weird places and now it's like, oh, I don't know if that even happened.
Yeah, yeah. Two years now. Wait, was I in Bermuda? Yeah, exactly.
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I've done a couple of the like research things to be like, do they have anything?
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It's not good.
Dog's middle name.
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Data brokers, they're collecting your names, your contact info, your dog's names, just to have backups, your addresses.
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That's why we get spams.
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is that why he's that way said
you got it
you know it
hold on to those opportunities
can we even play that one
just to make sure I said that
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speaking of your crack
a p a pill-sized robot
could replace your
endoscopy
I was just doing it for the segment
I love it I love it
your endoscopy
oh god I love this
this is of course sent in
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So we've talked about this opportunity.
We've talked about an oscabies before.
We've talked about it.
Look, we're getting old.
You know, you got to check what's going on in your gut.
The gut is a hard thing to traverse.
So this company created this spider-inspired, not my favorite reason, but that's okay.
But spider-inspired microbot.
Would you swallow this?
I totally would.
Versus doing anything with us to me?
No, but here's the deal.
It is an impatient situation.
So it's not like you swallow it, go home, come back, and they go,
bleep, okay, we got your info.
So what it does is, and there's, like, check these pictures out.
It crawls through your shit.
It crawls through your stomach, but look, so these are like the pictures.
Oh, God.
Yeah, why are you zooming that?
Well, because that's, so like this is the thing.
No, that's the robot.
Oh.
So it's like this weird.
Yeah, and it like rolls over.
Look at it like rolls into a ball.
because look how fucking weird
you're inside of your intestines
are. So it was really
hard because they were like, we want to be able to
traverse but at the same time.
So it uses, there's magnetic fields that are
being jamming. I don't know if you're going to magnet across your belly?
Well, A, that, but B,
it is moving using the magnetic
field inside your guts.
Crazy. So each of these little things are little
itty-bitty magnets, but then also
you sit next to this device that
has a bigger magnet. And so it
also kind of like moves it along
if need be. Does it have a camera on it? It's got all these sensors. So I don't know if it's
What's it looking for? Well, it's looking for polyps. It's looking for early signs of cancer.
It's just looking for all the stuff that you would do on an endoscopy where they would put
the thing down in your throat. You know what I mean? And I don't know if this is the same as a colonoscopy.
I don't think they want it to go all the way through. You know what's the other end.
Yeah. Well, it has to go all the way through. Then I'm going to pull it back out.
You'll just pass it. I don't know. I mean, I guess. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. It doesn't
say how they remove it. I'm sure at some point. I had acid reflux really bad and I got an endoscopy done.
Oh yeah. So this would take place of that instead of being knocked out and just throw it in the
knocked out thing. Yeah, but the knocked out thing if you ask for it the right way. We talked about this
is a good time. You have to ask for it the right way though. What's the right way?
Well, do you get, give me that heroin. No, no, no, no. So, so, I don't, we've talked about this
before, right? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. It's just like you talk to the anesthesiologist when
you're about to go in. Yeah. He asked for the slow ramp.
Slow ramp. Which is where they don't push it all in at once. They just give it to you over
course of like 45 seconds, it's the prepefinal, the Michael Jackson stuff where he died.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you get why he did it once you do it. Oh, interesting.
Because it's like, do you feel like you're like on heaven? I had a dream, I had, I full on had a
dream when I was getting my colonization. Really? 100%. What was it? Fuck if I know. I don't think
it was getting, you know, I don't think it was getting a colonoscopy. People wake up during those,
by the way. Oh, Heather's sister did. No way. Yeah, twice. Yeah, I heard this painful.
Yeah. Yeah. Wake up and.
somebody's like, oh, why are you awake?
Uh-oh, SpaghettiOs.
Yeah, that's like it.
Hopefully your doctor doesn't say,
oh, oh, SpaghettiOs.
But I'm excited for this.
This could be cool.
I love all of this stuff,
because I think this is the type of stuff
that's going to,
that's going to be in the next, like,
I mean, we talk about 2027.
Like, the next five, ten years,
the medical stuff is just going to go
through the roof.
Have you done the gallery test?
Did we talk about the gallery test?
Yeah, Heather did it.
I do those once a year.
Yeah, she sweared by it.
I'm going to start doing it once a year.
I got to do it.
maybe I will do drag game.
You don't know that's like an early
cancer screening type situation.
So blood test.
Yeah, it's blood test.
Screens for like 80 some odd
forms of cancer.
Yeah.
Because it's hard because, you know,
and even some of the stuff
like I haven't yet done the pre-novo.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I had the worst scarred pro novo.
What happened?
Oh, dude,
you didn't want to know.
I don't want to get into it.
They basically said I needed to meet with a doctor.
Like they normally just send you your results.
Yeah.
And you're like, oh, I'm just going to get my results.
Yeah.
And I had been having some like kind of motion sickness,
It's kind of like, ooh, like vertigo.
Yeah.
And it turned out it was fine.
It was just crystals in the air that were dislodged.
It's like a normal thing.
My dad had that.
I went in and I got the scan done.
And it took like a week, week and a half, two weeks.
I'm like, what is going on?
I call them like, yeah, you need to meet with a physician.
Like, we have to like give your results on the phone.
Oh, wow.
And I'm like, that's when you normally get the bad shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I call them, they're like, oh, yeah, our computer was just down.
We just couldn't see any of the results.
I'm like, you fuckers.
I died for like 24 hours.
Like, it was like the scariest shit ever.
Anyway, that's the downside of these things.
There's a lot of false positives when you get some of those.
So this is the thing with gallery.
The whole thing is you have to be okay with somebody with you getting a false positive
and then having to go one step further to then discover that you don't have the thing.
Right.
You know what I mean?
But early detection.
I have the buddy that did Provo was doing it as part of due diligence for investing in a round of financing,
found like a golf ball size tumor in his brain.
Wow.
Next day was on the operating table.
not cancerous, popped it out totally fine, would have never known he had it.
Unless he was actually just went in and got it done.
Insane.
Huh.
Well, there you go.
Saves lives.
All right.
It saves lives, people.
Next story of the day is the Kendall Color Scribe comes out on December 10th.
Ooh.
So are you a Kindle user or no?
So it's interesting.
I have had Kindles.
and I do enjoy them
and it kind of goes back to the thing
about the social media
because I used to read books
and then sort of stopped
because I'd never, you know,
that downtime didn't exist anymore
because it was filled with these
just hours or 45 minutes of scrolling
and so I would probably get back to it
you know what I mean
and I would love to check out with the new
oh but you can write on it?
Yeah, so this one, the scribe,
they had a scribe that came out
probably a couple years ago. It was just okay. It got mediocre reviews. This one is the new
full-on color one, and it's like a notepad. The nice thing I like about the Kindle is like not only,
I mean, it's obviously gone farm above and beyond just a e-book reader, which is a very good one. Now it is
like a full-on note-taking documents, like books, like all the things. And you can actually like,
you know, highlight areas in the book and like color on them and add notes and all this stuff.
This to me, if they nail it, I don't know if they're going to nail this.
version or not, but if they nail it, I, the one thing I do appreciate of this versus, in theory,
say something like an iPad, is an iPad is yet another way to be connected to the internet. And the one
thing that's nice about this is if you're just in, like, it's still rude to go to a meeting
if you're not known as like the person, well, now it's AI that's taking the notes, but if you're
not known as a person that's actually, if you're typing on your computer, people are like,
why aren't you paying attention to the meeting? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so this is kind of like a way
to disconnect. You got your books. It has audible too.
You get your audiobooks, too, if you had headphones.
And then you can also take notes right there.
No internet browsing.
You know, I mean, they got like some shitty, like, browser text or something.
But like, no one's doing it on me.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so I don't know.
I'm excited to try it out.
Well, Heather, this might be perfect for Heather because Heather has started doing this thing
where she'll listen to an audio book and read the book at the same time.
Oh, at the same time.
Yeah, what?
Yeah, people do that.
Yeah.
Is it the same time?
Oh, yeah.
Well, it's like you follow along the audio.
It's called Whisper Sink.
Oh, Whisper Sink?
No.
Yeah.
Double team by media.
That's what it's called.
What?
Double teamed by media.
I love, I love two eggnog, Justin.
He's like the two old guys in the Muppet Show.
No, it's called Big Double Team by Technology.
I love that.
He has nothing to say the entire team.
He's like, you just got double team by technology.
I've had two eggs.
No, it's 9.30 a.m., everybody.
I got to go to work.
I'm building dick.
Oh, my God.
The public beta is starting on dick.
It's starting right now.
I'm flipping the switch.
But this would be perfect for Heather because she could listen to the audio book
and read the book on the same device.
I agree.
And she'll get double-teamed.
She'll get double-teamed by media.
Oh, God.
That was great.
Best interjection of all time.
Like, just like there's no...
It's called double-teamed by media.
What?
Kevin, you, okay, yeah.
You had, you brought in...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I forget what it's called, that note-taking tool.
Do you use it?
Like, if you got this, it's basically the same thing
as this other ascribed device.
Yeah, so there's a handful of these,
these like e-ink note-taking ones.
the one that I got was
it's a smaller one
it's the same
because there's one by books
with an axe
Remarkable is the one
that I've been playing with
and I used a couple
of the Remarkables
and they have a smaller one
the issue with Remarkable
I think is great
it functions quite well
and it's like perfect
for like jotting stuff down
but when you go to move
the media to the desktop
like what do you get
what are the integrations
like it's never been clean
and if you look at the app
reviews like the actual
transfer apps, like they get really shitty reviews. So I think the device itself is awesome,
but truthfully, what I want is just Google Drive or Dropbox, like link them up and then save
as PDF or markdown or whatever and or both and just put it in my folder automatically so that
it's auto syncing every time I'm taking notes. Yeah. Versus me being like, oh, I did take that
over there. Let me go back and sync that and blah, blah, blah. If someone has a good way to do this,
please let me know, Dignation at dig.com.
Is that right?
That's right.
Because I just have found this to be a multi-step process.
When I'm taking notes, I just wanted to automatically show up there, you know?
Do you use your teenage engineering one, the recorder?
Oh, yeah.
So that one burned at the fire.
Thanks for bringing that up.
Oh, that was beautiful.
That was beautiful device.
I did teenage engineering chef's kiss, like some of the best devices out there.
They made this really cool audio recorder.
Actually, the nothing phone has a really cool built-in recorder with AI now.
So, like, you can flip it over and hold down the button.
So anytime your phone is flipped upside down and you hold the side button in, a little red light starts flashing on the back of it.
So it knows you're recording your conversation.
And so it transcribes all the notes.
Yeah, it's awesome.
It's really cool.
But I feel like that there's a bunch of these now.
Whisper is obviously another one as a sponsor where it's just like you can, they're all kind of coming together.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like where and how do I input data so I can research it and grab it and pull it into my life, you know, in a holistic way.
I always find it just so hard to, like, pull something out of my bag when I get to a meeting.
Like, it just sort of feels, like, I just want to have the meeting.
And that's why I want to, well, somebody had that thing that was like a lapel of that.
Well, that was the superhuman one.
Yeah, that didn't do super well.
Yeah, oh, really?
Yeah, Facebook bought them.
Interesting.
I'm sure they had interesting stuff that they were trying to cook on.
But, you know, it's like, like, there are those.
like passive ones too that are really interested
like the ring one where like
you can talk to AI and ask questions
but again you're not breaking in that moment
to have to like look down or do something
it keeps the conversation rolling
yeah I've been beta testing sandbar
which in full disclosure
is a true company that we invested in but it's a ring
where you just press me whispered to it yeah yeah yeah
so that one's gonna be really cool but that's still
another six months out to yeah but it's sort of like
with something like this it's always just sort of hard to be like
okay hey this is a fun coffee yeah
I guess that's what I'm getting that's my point
Of all the tools that you've had to, like, take notes here and there,
like, are you actually coming back to those notes and using it?
Because what I'm saying is, all right, I can take notes, don't need it,
because it has never worked for me on iPad or across any other device.
Or color?
What do I need that for in my books?
I'm not reading coloring books or children's books.
It's a good point.
I don't know why the color thing.
That's a good question.
But I will say that in terms of the productivity tools that I've seen out there
actually be successful, the one that we use it true is granola.
And we use granola because granola, not only does it like summarize and take away like all the
key bullet points and all that and create this beautiful document for you at post-meeting.
So when you're doing Zoom, things like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But they also have a shared backbone that is your team.
Yeah.
And so what you can do is if you take a meeting and like, oh, my team would benefit from
understanding how this meeting went.
It's one click.
It goes into the shared folder with your team.
And now you have a corpus of data that you can like search against and crawl and be like,
okay, when we met with that company, what was happening,
even though you weren't the meeting,
you didn't then go into it and, like, dip in.
It's really cool.
Yeah, and it doesn't actually record the audio.
Oh.
So it, it transcribes it and pulls out all the key points,
but it's nice in that you're like, you're not breaking too much.
There's a little bit of a privacy concern there, but it's not like having a raw recording.
Yeah, but also, like, you tell people.
Yeah.
And it's no more different than having a secretary or somebody, you know, a stenographer.
I don't know, who has secretaries anymore, but like,
a stenographer in the meeting whose job is just to make sure that they take meeting.
Which I typically have someone that's just typing next to me, like a courtroom style.
Yeah.
Or with the like the voice record thing where they put the, because court reporters, there's the thing
where it's like you can touch the different word, like each thing is a word, or they have the
one where you just like literally talk into like a jet.
They got a muzzle on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did you see the new keyboard that people had been talking about where it's like completely
arranged to get 99%
of words
within like your fingers distance
and then if you just push
down on all the letters that you think a word
is going to be it automatically creates the word
and so when you... I mean I think that is
the court
like court reporters don't type
the words. I mean don't type
the letters that make the words. There's
combos and that they use
that are the word. So this was a new one that I saw
where it was just like this cool keyboard for
and I saw this guy who was like
do do do it was doing like full paragraphs and I was like what the fuck oh that's cool you have to
train yourself though yeah yeah yeah and I'm like all of those different like imagine that
all of those different like ways to input stuff on on keyboards I just can't my brain is just
too it's not malleable anymore yeah like it's my hands this is how I type yeah and I have to
do that with my mouth it's very weird it's so strange when you're on a call with him he's like
what was that last bit I couldn't quite hear
I love that.
I'm just checking to see if my Amazon package,
so good.
I'm going to start doing that with Heather.
I'm going to start doing that with Heather
and just see how long it takes her to pick up on it.
Somebody definitely has it.
It's like Tourette's for keyboard type of.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I love it.
All right, last story of the day.
All right, last story of the day.
Japan's viral 7-Eleven egg sandwich
launches in the U.S.
why it's so popular
also submitted by Comdeck
as a twirp. You're just the Comdeck fanboy.
These are the stories I got.
I just kept going, oh man, it's Comdeck again. That's great.
So obviously you're Mr. Japan.
So have you had the
egg sandwich in the 7-Eleven?
Yes. So 7-Eleven is currently
owned by a
conglomerate called like
Tokyo 7 or something like that.
So it's a Japanese company.
Seven and I holdings.
Seven and I holdings. So a Japanese
holding company owns 7-Eleven. And if you're not aware, in Japan, 7-Eleven is like a store people go
to for food. It's good. It's, yeah, it's like, it's clean. It's like not what we Americans think of
as 7-Eleven. And I always find it so interesting. Whenever I hear about like, oh, 7-Eleven is going to
try to bring the Japanese food, you know, daily fresh food stuff to the United States, I always think
that's not why 7-Elevens suck.
Right.
It has nothing to do with the fact that there isn't a fresh egg salad sandwich in it.
Like, in Japan, there's a completely different societal situation going on with cleanliness,
with littering, with loitering, with drug abuse, with like, all of these things that make a 7-Eleven
a place that most people are like, I got to go into the 7-Eleven, you know.
What sketchy person's going to be in there?
How shitty is it going to be?
Is the food even going to be edible?
I mean, remember those hot dogs that would just sit?
For like weeks on that.
Well, there was somebody that got really bad food poisoning
from one of these places.
Like, it killed the couple of years ago.
It's not someone.
It's everyone.
It's anyone.
And the pizza, like, what are you even doing?
And they have those weird taquitos that are rolling now and like egg roll.
You're like, what are you doing 7-Eleven?
So they are trying.
And I commend them for trying.
You know, I mean, I would like all the 7-Elevens to be these
nice, clean places that I can go and get a fresh, you know, box of food. I mean, they do
like box lunches in Japan. They do the sandwiches are amazing. So a couple of the people have
started eating or trying these sandwiches and they're close. Close. But they're not the Japanese
style sandwiches. They didn't, they don't cut the crust off. They're not that milk bread. They use
cutie pie mayo, but it's like, and it's also American. So it's
probably processed through the fucking.
Yeah, and then it's going to sit in the shelf.
Like, at 7-Eleven in Japan, when you go in, you know it was made like that morning.
That morning, yeah.
It's still freshly delivered every single day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm sure they're not going to let it sit there.
Because they're good.
Yeah.
And, like, these are just going to sit there for like three days.
And you're going to be like, oh, it's soggy on the toast.
And, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
So this is.
I mean, hats off to the marketing person, right?
Because they were like, hey, this is the best thing we have at 7-Eleven.
Yeah.
Let's bring it to the States.
Yeah.
So this is the 7-Eleven version of the sandwich.
Yeah.
But you can see it's got the crusts.
Yeah.
And people are just like, it's okay, but it's not, you know, it's not the Japanese sandwich.
Last time he had a slurpee.
Oh, God, since I was a kid.
Really?
Yeah, probably.
It's been a while for me, too.
I used to love people's gold slurpy.
Honestly, slurpees were what made 7-Eleven.
Slurpees and candies.
What was your favorite slurpee?
That's interesting.
I think it was cherry mixed with Coca-Cola.
Okay, I just like Coca-Cola.
Yeah, that cherry was like that.
What was your favorite?
It was, it was like a white one.
I forget what it was.
White wine?
White with the white with the peanut colada.
Slurpy, yes.
I don't remember what it was,
but maybe it was like a blue raspberry stuff.
Oh, yeah.
That makes sense, Mao.
Blue raspberry for sure.
Blue raspberry.
Raspberry.
I didn't have very many options.
It was cherry blue raspberry.
Coke.
Coke.
Coke.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, see, I love that cherry that like,
Did you ever do the food side?
Which was just like every little thing.
You would just like put it all in.
That was like a soda found thing to me.
Not a flurpy thing.
It's like the Long Island Ice tea of sod.
Do you think about how bad we were like killing our bodies?
Like we literally would be like sugar, sugar, sugar, like just 10 different flavor?
I would love to say that's not what I do on a daily basis.
Do you do that?
I love sugar.
Sugar is my kryptonite.
Oh, Jesus.
Okay.
It's salt for me.
I want salty things.
It's like one year.
You put a bowl of kettle chips in front of me.
Oh, yeah.
They're gone.
Dude, I just tried, T.J. Sredder Joe's has blue cheese.
I love blue cheese.
Blue cheese potato chips.
They are bonkers good.
Yeah, I love it.
I mean, you got to try it.
I will.
Woof, as it were.
I don't know what they can do to save, well, not save, to change the perception of 7-Eleven in the United States.
I don't know if they need to, though.
It's like it is what it is.
But no, they definitely want to.
You know what I mean?
But you're right.
It's bigger than prepared food.
It's a brand positioning.
Like at the end of the day, it is like when you're in Japan,
it is a reliable, really well taken care of convenience store, like consistently.
And it's always excellent.
Yeah.
And here it's just 7-Eleven, you know what I mean?
What you get.
Yeah, what you get.
Alex, how much money would you need to quit all sugar for one year?
Oh.
Or more money than alcohol, I think.
Really?
Yeah, I think so.
What about just to eat in a 7-Eleven for one year?
That's all you get.
All the money.
He would die.
You're just paying for his bereavement services.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I would literally die.
Yeah, that wouldn't be good.
Anyway.
All right, on that note.
On that note, guys and gals, thank you so much for coming and sitting down with us for another episode of Dignation.
Happy holidays to everybody.
Yes.
And we will see you shortly.
I'm Alex Albrecht.
Kevin Rose, I got to go zamas.
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