Diggnation (rebooted) - OnlyFans on Digg, Foldable iPhones in 2026, and Why the Metaverse Is Officially Over

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

https://digg.com is live! Public beta is open for community creation!January’s almost over, which means it’s either too late or just early enough to still say “Happy New Year.” In thi...s episode, Kevin and Alex wade through that awkward seasonal purgatory, debate etiquette, and naturally land on Alex’s go-to insult: “Eat the bag.”Kevin checks in on Dry January and confirms that sleep is, in fact, real. The conversation takes a turn into the serious realities of alcohol withdrawal before pivoting to some big Digg news: the public beta is officially live, and you can now create your own Communities. Yes, that includes one called /onlyfans, which has absolutely nothing to do with what you think unless you are deeply into industrial air movers.From there, it’s a full tech firehose. The Metaverse is officially declared dead, Claude Code is writing entire web apps in minutes, and a startup called Humans just raised $480 million to make AI more collaborative, or possibly sentient. Also on the docket: foldable iPhones, mindfulness, Matt Damon’s attention span, and why chicken wings keep showing up in self-driving cars.This one’s got layers.SponsorsAnthropic: Get 50% off your first 3 months of Claude Prohttps://claude.ai/DIGGMonarch: Get 50% off your first year with code DIGGhttps://monarch.comWispr Flow: Try it freehttps://wisprflow.ai/diggZBiotics: Get 15% off your first order with code DIGGhttps://zbiotics.com/DIGGChapter Markers00:00 Intro00:44 When Is It Too Late to Say “Happy New Year”?01:28 Alex’s All-Purpose Insult: “Eat the Bag”03:32 Dry January Update: Alex Hits 20 Days04:52 Alcohol Withdrawal Gets Real07:16 Digg Public Beta and Build-Your-Own Communities08:36 The Confusing Purity of the “/OnlyFans” Community09:33 AI Moderation Logs That Actually Make Sense11:11 The Metaverse Is Dead. Long Live Reality14:37 Matt Damon and the Shrinking Human Attention Span15:40 Why VR and AR Still Feel Like Homework19:16 Mindfulness, Explained by Thich Nhat Hanh22:51 The Meaning of Life24:53 John Cleese on Why Failure Is the Whole Point27:01 Kevin’s New Coding Obsession: Compound Engineering30:04 AI Context Windows and How the Magic Works40:02 Foldable iPhones in 2026? Let’s Argue42:34 iPad vs Mac and the UX Identity Crisis44:18 Humans Raises $480M to Make AI Less Robotic53:50 Tesla Goes Subscription-Only for Full Self-Driving55:46 Tensor Auto and the Semi-Sentient Rideshare Wars1:00:25 People Are Leaving Trash in Waymos. Including Wings1:02:07 Outro

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on this episode is folding your iPhone in half really that a good idea. Also, new communities on Dig. There's one called OnlyFans. It's not what you'd expect. It's naked lady. Welcome to Dig Nation. Also potentially hazardous to your health. All right, moving on.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Why do you have flies in your freaking house? I noticed this earlier. It's Southern California and I have fruit. You put zombie and you put it. hearing in the title and I don't want to do it. Dignation.com. Hello everybody and welcome to Dignation. Episode number 29.
Starting point is 00:00:44 I did just have to look down and read that. I'm Alex Albreck. I'm Kevin Rose. Happy New Year. Hey. And we already had a show. So this is the second happy New Year going to get. I like saying Happy New Year to people.
Starting point is 00:00:57 What do you think of a cutoff date? It's the 20th. I think it's after January. Yeah, yeah. I think January is the new year. Yeah. Everything else can just suck a bag of dicks February
Starting point is 00:01:10 No, I'm just kidding Actually February is my wife's birthday So I can't say Suck a bag of dicks When I was younger Like a year and a half ago I used to love to say When you were a year younger
Starting point is 00:01:24 But I used to love to say like eat the bag Like when a friend Eat the bag Take the bag and eat it I'm not going to say the full sentence Oh yes But when someone when they'd give me shit like a bite.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Eat a bag of, you know. Why is that funny? I don't know. So, Brentano. Yeah. Our very good friend, Joshua Brentano, who's the executive producer of Attack of the show.
Starting point is 00:01:49 And you've known him for longer than me, but he had this thing that he would do with our other buddy, our other buddy Vinny, and he told me about it. And it became this thing that I now do with Heather, which is the best, which is you try to figure out the most meandering way you could possibly have to saying that statement. So what I'll do is if she says something that like upsets me jokingly, I'll go, ooh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Could you do me a huge favor? Just consume. Would you go into the kitchen and under the sink in the back behind the paper towels? There's a bag. I want you to get that bag, fill that bag with dicks, and suck that bag of dicks. I don't know. But it's, but the best but the best is how long.
Starting point is 00:02:37 We will go five minutes. No, no, no, no. We went from eat to suck. Why are you telling your wife to suck a bag? Like, eat I get. It's protein. Like, but like, you eat. You mean it could be chicken dicks? No, but I'm just saying like you told, there's a bag of a sort of assorted
Starting point is 00:02:57 dicks in there. You're like, why don't you just go suck them all? It's not, that is not the thing. Again, the joke is how long you draw out of the thing. I get the joke, but let's stick with eat instead of suck. Okay. I don't know. I never, I was always, it was always suck.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Was it always suck a bag a dick for me? Yeah, suck a bag a deck. Mine was always eat. But also, like, what does that even mean? At this point, it's like, there are certain things in our life that just don't mean anything. Right. It's just a garbledy-gook, gibberish way of saying, you know, screw you for that comment. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:03:31 You're not even drinking. I've just had too much caffeine already. I know. I will say I'm now 20 days in, feel pretty good. You're looking pale. I know. My body is like, where am I getting my nutrient? Oh, I'm not eating.
Starting point is 00:03:47 So how does it feel like, have you had any withdrawals? Not really with draws. When you're drinking, let's just call it eight drinks a night, how do you not get withdrawals? You know, the funny thing is, like I said on the fourth, I had been sick. And so I didn't, you know, I was sick. So it was like I didn't feel good. And not that I go through withdrawals. Just withdrawals.
Starting point is 00:04:11 It may very well have extended it for sure. But no, I, you know, the funny thing is that I've been going to bed way earlier. Like I've been sleeping a lot. And I don't know if that's good or bad. Your liver just like, ah, yeah, vacation time, maybe. Let's just recharge. Vacation time. You better get ready.
Starting point is 00:04:32 It's coming. We're coming for you. See, that's the, honestly, that is the, so a few of my friends, I have one, well, I had a podcast with him, Jason DiFilippo, where we talked about, you know, he joined AA. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and he says the number one thing that people, what happens, how people die that do A.A. and then leave and then how they die. How do they die? And I always thought like they just went back to being alcoholics
Starting point is 00:04:58 and eventually they died, right? Yeah. They tend to die really fast. And it's because they were sober for so long. Yeah. They think they can handle what they used to be able to handle. Yeah. And then they hit a hard night
Starting point is 00:05:09 and that actually is poisoning. Then they die from that. So a lot of the drug overdoses of famous people like Philip Seymour Hoffman, a lot of those are the same exact thing. Yeah. It's just heroin, not alcohol. But it's that thing of like... I've never tried heroin.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I don't... I'm not a big druggy guy. Like even... Yeah, I don't think I... I ever try to even talk you in it? I mean, I never tried to talk you into doing weed. A lot. But you did it one time, right?
Starting point is 00:05:35 Sort of... It's just not my buzz, man. Heather got this thing called Willie's... That was a very meany, like, way to say it, by the way. It's just not my drug, man. Yeah, it's not my thing, you know? Cocaine or busts. I just don't smoke for dope.
Starting point is 00:05:49 No, no, God, I've never... I've literally, like, The only thing I've done is a pot periodically. Not even periodically. Like twice. And it just, I'm like, I just want my wine. I want my booze. I don't like it either.
Starting point is 00:06:01 But I used to when I was younger. And it's like, I just feel like I'm too old now. I don't know something about it. It just doesn't give me the same kind of like, eh. So Heather bought that Willie's Remedy, which is the Willie Nelson booze replacement thing. Yeah, yeah. THC thing. Because she thought she was going to be joining me
Starting point is 00:06:23 for dry January. She's not. Oh. But that's all right. She's cool. Don't, no pressure. Damn January for her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It's January for her. Is it raining? Yeah. Every night. And her sister's in town, too. That's going to be so hard for you. You know, it's not. Oh.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I know. I'm at this, like, very zen point where, like, I just, you know, April first. I just want to swing by your house. It's just see how you doing? Oh, I'm going to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:50 We might go to the UK, and if we do, I'm going to be like, is it, is it, we have a, maybe have a party on Saturday night, the 31st. I think that'll be like, oh, well, it's, I made it. Yeah. It's British. I mean, there's a lot of months. It'll only 30 days. This is true. This is true. Hey, speaking of excited things that'll happen in February. Yes. One of the exciting things that happened in January is, drum roll, please, you may have heard. Dig has officially launched into open public beta as well as allowing people to create and maintain their own communities on the site, which has been amazing. One of the things that I think is very, very smart that you guys did, which I think is genius, is you can only create two communities. Yes. So essentially it makes you go, okay, what are the communities that, A, don't exist, but I definitely want them to exist, so much so that I'm willing to. to be the sort of main moderator to begin with, I started slash cooking, which I'm very excited about.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And some of the other ones that I've joined and I'm very excited about slash Dodgers, huge Dodger fan that was created by Dr. Warface. And of course, I was like, I almost created this on the day on Wednesday when everything was happening. But I was like, well, wait, electric hyphen vehicles started by jellyfish, which is one of the articles for today is actually from jellyfish in the electric vehicles. My two were slash Japan. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And then slash meditation. Well, very nice. Yeah. And I will say, for those of you into this type of material, slash only fans is only, it's only fans. It's only fans. Literally all types of fans like fans you can buy at Costco, hand fans, fans that blow at different capacities. But, okay, if you're listening to audio only,
Starting point is 00:08:51 we are talking about spinning blade-based machines. Oh, I like this one. Yeah, it's a beautiful fan. Yeah. Oh, you know what those are called? That's called a big-ass fan. That's literally the name. The company makes great-ass fans.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah, they're called big-ass fans. I mean, that's like just a good naming. Yeah, it's a great name. Big-ass fan. I mean, it says it right in the middle. Big-ass fan. Yeah, there is. I mean, if you're going to be on only fans and you want some big-ass fan.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Rule 37. Yep. Is that it? 34? 34. Okay. Rule 37 is different. We shouldn't talk about that way.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Exactly. Oh, that's a little. So check out the communities. And please know, very important caveat here, early days here. We want to add co-moderation. We want to add, I will say the one thing I am very proud of is moderation is transparent, unlike other big social platforms. You get to see what's happening.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And in a perfect world, kind of where I see the tea leaves going, where I'd like to see this eventually go, and I'll talk just about this, because we'll have to finish the romance, why not, but don't cut the side. But honestly, what we want to do is, like, you have these principles that a community should be run by, and we have those today.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And then, you know, if there is a way to see and understand, is our posts actually aligning with those principles? Right. And so, you know, I think AI on dig is a very tricky and sensitive topic. Some people are like, keep AI out of dig. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:15 It's humans only and other people are like, ah, you know, it's kind of cool when Grock answers posts on X. And that would be kind of cool to get some insights there, you know? So there's all these different perspectives. One thing I do believe to be true is that if you just give AI the power just to be like a little friend on the side being like, hey, I've looked at the community rules. Hey, I've looked at this content. I kind of think it should be maybe banned, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:38 As a way to help inform the moderator. That sounds exciting to me. So anyway, there's a lot of ideas. I'm not going to say it's going to be built or when it's going to be relaunch. But there's a lot of ideas here. And this is the very early innings. We just wanted to get the open taxonomy out there. And then next is all of the meat that's going to make this uniquely ours and different.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And robust. Yeah. So that's coming. I love it. Now, speaking of the opposite of that. Yes. First story of the day. Well, there goes the metaverse.
Starting point is 00:11:11 This was submitted by Jeremy Kay. well, there goes the Metaverse. I called the shit years ago. Dude, I... So stupid. So for those of you who remember back in, I believe it was 2021, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg decided to change the company name of Facebook Inc. to meta. And the reason why he did that was because he was going all in on the Metaverse.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Well, it looks like we can finally officially say, please, that's, it's, it was, it was never a good idea. And now it's definitely not a good idea. So, um, meta has been starting to close out, because they were acquiring VR companies left, right and sideways. I mean, this was their big, their big bet was, you know, the Oculus. Um, I mean, they bought the Oculus from Palmer Lackey. Palmer Lucky, right?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Palmer Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Lucky. Palmer Lucky. Anyway. Yeah. They bought it from Palmer.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And they really decided they were like, we're going to go all in on, yeah, Lucky. Oh, that's interesting. I don't know why. Oh, I have my buddy Reza Lackie. So Lacky's like a last name. I don't know. Anyway, all of this meandering is to say they, you know, announcements of stage demos of him having conversations as his little me version of himself, weird plans.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I mean, he just, it was so cringy to watch him try to make it feel like this was a thing and that everybody was going to be happy about it. One of the things in this article that made me go like, oh, that's interesting. I had not really connected that in my brain, which was the kids coming up nowadays have their social interactions on Minecraft, on Roblox, on these, on, on, um, uh, uh, 4,000. night where they're not on Instagram, they're not on X, they're not like, you know, that's not where they're having their social interactions. That to me was the first time I realized, oh, I understand why they were chasing this, was to basically go, hey, you're not on Instagram as much, you're in Roblox.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Let's make Meta Roblox meets Instagram for kids. At least I kind of can get that that's where they were trying to go. But I just feel like forcing it to be VR. Like I just, I also feel this way about AR. Like, I just don't know if this is a thing that they want it to be. Whereas like with AI, I'm like, I get it. Like, I see it. I see, you know, I don't think it's going to be like, you know, making movie.
Starting point is 00:13:57 You know, I don't think you're going to sit down in the Marvel AI and say, I would like to see Iron Man fight the Hulk and that that's going to be your movie entertainment. Like, I don't think we're going to get to that place. But I can see at least the thing. thing of like, yeah, people are going to be using this in their day-to-day life, whether they know it or not. I mean, they're probably already doing it, whether they know it or not. What's that? Which one? AI.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, with this VR stuff, I was always like, it's a novelty. It's fun. I loved being in VR. It's really fun, but I would always take my VR headset off. And be like, Jesus Christ, my eyes. You know what I mean? Well, people got nauseous and all kinds of things happen. Dude, totally. But the whole whole thing is like, when I think about great products, and kind of where we're trending, in terms of attention span.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Like one of the things that we've talked about recently and we've seen this, I think it was, who said it, somebody just a couple days ago came out, another actor and said, hey, I got this new script, and I had to restate the plot like 30 times over because people are on their phones and second device.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The second stream thing, yeah. You can't really... Oh, it was Matt Damon. He was Matt Damon. Talking about the rip. Exactly. So there's this like,
Starting point is 00:15:05 as attention spans are decreasing, and the sense of satisfaction and gratification has to be faster and faster, the last thing someone wants is a five-minute setup of a VR headset on their head. Even to begin with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then that experience has to be, and this is for all products, and this has always been true, in order for something to hit scale and to replace its predecessor, it has to be at least in order of magnitude better for them to say,
Starting point is 00:15:35 ah, I'm done with that old thing, I'm going to move to this thing, right? And so when 3D TVs came out, we had those little glasses that we would put on, we were like, that kind of cool, but not 10X cool. And so I'm not going to use that. And all of a sudden, those all went away. And so the same thing with VR, you're like, oh, wow, like everything looks a little bit different. This is kind of cool. Kind of, kind of.
Starting point is 00:15:53 It can't be kind of. Yeah, yeah. It has to be, holy shit, everything has changed. I will never go back to ever playing a video game on any other thing other than VR. And that was never the case. No, never. And then AR, it's like, what do I look around right here and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:16:10 yeah, what piece of information is not floating in front of your face? Wait, wait, is that a laptop? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:15 It's like, what do we look around at during the day and are just like, I wish I knew more about that thing. Yeah. Like maybe if I'm in like a France and I like look at a building, I'm like, how old was that building? But like now I can just open my phone and be like,
Starting point is 00:16:28 what was that building? Yeah. If you were in a France and you were like, wherever. It's so true. Now, are we wrong? No,
Starting point is 00:16:36 Right. I always think of, you ran into this with interviews. Sorry, I should, because I have my AR. I needed to see your contact information floating around your head. You ran into this when you're interviewing something. I think you'd end up with people at basically with the AR saying, what do I say? Give me my prompter. What do I say right? Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Like just like gaming social activity. So I went to, I went to, um, the San Diego, uh, zoo, but it's not the zoo. It's their safari park. It took a long time to get that ass. You didn't get back to drinking. I know. I was like, I was like, should I say who it was that I was with? But I was like, no, I'm not going to. But anyway, we were given a behind the scenes tour of San Diego Wild Animal Park, which was awesome. We got to meet like lemurs and shit, and it was super fun. Who are you with now? Right. But the guy, no. But the guy who was, who graciously brought us had the Google Glass.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Wait, they don't even make those anymore. No, this was a long time ago. Oh, okay. This was like almost 10 years ago. Yeah, yeah. It was the weirdest fucking experience. I know, dude. I have one of those.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Because here's four of us all, like, meeting, like, the oldest turtle in the world and feeding him lettuce. And there was just this guy standing there awkwardly, staring at it, and then staring off into the distance, and then staring back at the turtle and, like, doing stuff on it. And it was just like, that dude is not. not here. He died? That dude, no, that dude is having a whole other experience that we're not privy to. And it's not fun. It's not interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:16 This is like the most awkward exchange. Yeah. And I can't imagine that's going to be everybody. And by the way, felt like this guy is not enjoying the fact that we are like petting, you know, also lots and shit. You know what I mean? Like, have you not run into that with meta, meta ray bands? I don't really have, I don't know if I've ever met, like, seen any of my friends with.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I have a pair. I got from my little sister, and I wore them once. Addison does love you. I was about to say, I just noticed Addison has them all the time, and he seems to be always always be present. But it did change. I was like, oh. But again, he's not, he's not using them 90% of the time. But also, those aren't the ones with the screen, right? So those are the ones where they basically whisper AI things into your ear. Well, he likes it for listening to music because you can't hear anything else. No, I know. It's crazy. And it kind of like, ports it down. Yeah. No, it's really good. I remember I've had a couple, when I first had them
Starting point is 00:19:05 and I was like asking things. Although then it's just weird. It's like having one AirPod in and just asking Siri stuff. Yeah. It's just so weird. There's a really interesting, I'm going to paraphrase here,
Starting point is 00:19:19 but there was a Zen master by the name of Tickna Han. I'm sure you probably heard of Tickna Han. Of course. Are you serious? My favorite. Shut up. I mean, you have Mao, right?
Starting point is 00:19:30 What? Ticknothon. Has no one? Okay. We are not Zen people. Okay, well, I mean, he's like very famous, the master. But anyway, so Tignan, I'm paraphrasing here, but he... Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Okay, thank you. Yes, I have. Phenomenal books. He's got phenomenal books. Yeah, I have no idea that is. Yeah, great books. Miracle of Mindfulness is fantastic book. Anyway, I mean, you should, I would like to get into mindfulness.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Oh, good. Well, then you should pick up Miracle of Mindfulness by Tickna Han. Thank you. See, look, this is great. Okay, so Tickna Han, he's passed away. Oh, but back in the day... I just became... No, no, no, deep.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I mean, he lives in probably somewhere else now. Yeah. So the one thing that he said, in paraphrasing here, he said, like, people ask them about, like, being like these gurus. Like, when they can, like, walk on water and, like, float in the air. Like, you know, like, mystical, like crazy superpower kind of stuff. And he said, that is not the miracle. The real miracle is to walk on the earth. And the meaning there is, like, the miracle is, are my feet on the ground?
Starting point is 00:20:31 And am I even aware of that moment? You know, and all these devices, they're taking us out of what's actually happening. And if you really think about it, what a fucking, I'm unbelievable thing that we're even witnessing what we're witnessing right now. Yeah. That we are rendering this in real time in our head. Amazing. Yeah. But yet we're chasing all these other things.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Give me a different angle. Give me a different information. Give me more. Give me more. And it's like, no, where are my feet right now? Can I be here right now? That is the power. It's so interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I heard this guy talking about the fact of like how miraculous and infinitesimally small a chance that we like the three of us get to exist on this planet at the exact same moment. Yes. Like that that happened is like the chances of that happening is so infinitesimally small that like that like, We should appreciate the fact that, like, hey, we get to ride this planet ball with the three of us. Yes. Could have been totally other people. Most likely would have been other people. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Like, that's one of those things that we just don't really appreciate for the most part. God, where's my phone? It's downstairs. Oh, I just call somebody. It's in my backpack downstairs. What are you trying to? I have something so important to show you. Oh, I want to see it.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I want to show you this one clip because this is exactly what you're talking. talking about, here's my backpack, I love it. It's very nice. It's a company called Hard Graph. They make really good... Hard graph. Hard graph. Yeah, they make very good high quality materials, and they are a sponsor today.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Wouldn't it be great to just roll into a sponsor of the episode. No, they actually make great stuff and it's like not crazy expensive, but it's not crazy cheap, it's not crazy expensive. It's just nice. Yeah, medium. This, dude, this is everything. And we'll put this on the video and speaking of it. this stuff. Hold on. You're going to be mad? I always feel like
Starting point is 00:22:38 Mal's like watching me and be like, how long is this going to take? It's true. It's true. Dead air. This is true. Okay. Okay. Is that? Watch this. The meaning of life. I'll do it in five words. Okay. Enjoying the passage of time. That's it. It's enjoying the passage of time.
Starting point is 00:23:01 The chances of us being here now are so small. The chances of us existing, it's, you know, if you look at the, if you look at the stats, it's not just our parents
Starting point is 00:23:12 had to get together at that moment, but their parents, their parents, their parents, going back a billion years as we climbed out of the soup. The chances of this happening are incalculable.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And yet we're here. And we have this shot and we're breathing and we're healthy and we're, this is incredible. Enjoying the passage of time is about,
Starting point is 00:23:34 it's about all I got. And it's enough. That's so interesting because that's essentially what I've always said to Heather, and I probably have said it on this show, potentially many times, which is the only thing I can think of as like why we are here is to enjoy the life that we have, to enjoy the moments that we have that like when you get mired down in the stuff that you don't enjoy, it's like you've got to change that shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Because you only get one right. I mean, one of the guys said, he was like, you know, life isn't addressed rehearsal, so you better get it right the first time. But also it's just, so I'll add two things that I like on top of that. 100% agree. And for me, it is curiosity, perpetual curiosity. So like this is ours to explore, everything, every angle, every aspect. Find your thing.
Starting point is 00:24:23 What is it that you're most curious about that you want to, and play? Yeah. And then lastly, you have to understand that failure is just bullshit. Oh, yeah. Because failure is just, the only thing it is, is admitting that you've learned something new. Yep. And it should not be frowned upon at all. No.
Starting point is 00:24:43 It means you tried something. Yeah. And that's fun. And who cares? And just keep doing that over and over again. John Cleese has a great comment about that, which was he was like, Monty Python would not exist if we didn't allow ourselves to fail. Yeah. Because comedy, you can't not fail at comedy and do comedy correctly.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And I've always thought about that. That's a great point. a lot of the comedians, they play these little tiny venues, like the big ones. Yeah, of course, because they have to try it out. And they're feeling over and over and over again. Yeah, I mean, literally like if you saw, and by the way, even the good material night to night won't hit the right way. And they'll have the same material that kills one night. The next day will just fail miserably.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And they just got to ride through it because they got to go, I know this is good stuff. It just didn't connect with this audience. Yeah, well, also it's just like the world is changing real time. Who knows how the motions of the. people coming into the room are feeling based on outside factors that you have no control over. That's why I love doing improv versus stand-up. I done stand-up a couple times. I don't like the fact that I can't go, but I just made it up. Like when I'm doing improv, for me, if somebody doesn't laugh at something, I have feels zero pressure because I go, dude, I just made that shit up.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Right. Like, I don't, I'm not precious with it. I just pulled that out of my ass. You should get up and try this stuff. Yeah, yeah. But then when you have those miracle moments where like, you say something in that right moment and the whole audience just loses their shit. That high is nothing compared to that time. So for me, to the point of finding your thing, that is a thing for you. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:19 My high is regardless of whether the company is a success or failure, when I get people saying, hey, I used that thing and I loved it. Yeah. And then that hits 100,000, doesn't even matter, 100,000. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And that happens, that's my, oh, yeah, it feels good. You know, and I think everybody can find that for themselves. They have to. They should. Yeah. That's what the goal should be. Go find that. Yeah. Anyway, well, sorry, Meta.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Sorry, you didn't find that. You got to go try to find another one. I'm sure. Zuck is crying himself to sleep in one of his places that he moves. Okay. All right, let's talk real quick about the compound engineering. Oh, yeah. Speaking of something that you found that makes you happy and excited.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Yeah. So this is crazy. You know, I've been doing this quote unquote vibe coding thing for the last year or so. And if you look at my GitHub commits, meaning that's just a shows your activity of how active you are in producing new code. There was like this big tranche of code about like eight months ago that I was doing a bunch of stuff. And I was like, eh, it's not quite there.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And there was this like dead period of like another three or four months. Models got better. And then I started doing it again. And now it's just like this deep green, which means you've been doing a lot of activity on there. Yeah. And when I was using Cursor and the top tier models, I would say as long as you have a good plan in place, my code quality was like, I probably put around 80% in terms of actually getting my ideas to actual code that could be somewhat shippable and actually turn something into a product. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Every six months, or it used to be every six months, I'd have my mind blown and be like, well, man, now I have to think about the world entirely differently. And then that's been compressed down like every three months. And then just last week, a little behind on this because this was a thing of a few weeks prior, there was a new tool that came out called compound engineering that is a plugin for Claude Code. Yeah. And it is just taking me from that kind of 80% world of code quality. Yeah, yeah. So I'd say probably 95%.
Starting point is 00:28:20 And it has changed just everything. Like now I can have multiple projects being developed with. with a high level of confidence of actually being able to ship something. There's security odds that are being done in real time. Like, it is just, it is, it is beautiful. And so the quick little TLDR without getting too geeky for those that are into this is that everyone has probably seen this when you use AI where you have a context window. So when you're chatting with AI and you're like, hey, you know, let's talk about the history
Starting point is 00:28:50 of, you know, the Warriors basketball team. And you start talking about it and you go on for a half day. and then all of a sudden it kind of like it starts to forget stuff. Yep. And that's because the context window is getting, you know, exhausted. And then things are kind of falling off the end. And then sometimes it has to open up a new context window. So it or if it's in the coding side, it will compress down kind of what it thinks it knows about what you were talking about and bring that forward.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yep, yep. And that's very lossy. And so you lose a lot of information during that process. Constantly having to reeducate itself on what you guys are doing. Exactly. Yeah. So what this has done is it's kind of created this orchestrator. architecture where it breaks everything into these small sub-tasks that have their full context
Starting point is 00:29:31 windows so they can do their best work. And then also, it does this compounding thing where it's able to compound that information down in a way that is much tighter and more dense and reusable so that it doesn't always have to get up to speed every time you start a new conversation. So it's like designing a secondary computer-to-computer language to remind itself what it's up to. Yes, and cross-communication between context windows. that have the full space. So I'll tell you one of the quick little thing.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Imagine this window of memory. And so when it gets to about 80% full, the AIs is saying to itself internally, it's not saying this externally, but they kind of figured this out. It's saying, ah, shit, I'm about to run out of memory. And I ain't done yet. And I'm not done yet.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And so I need to start doing my work as fast as possible, which means that the code quality would go down. And so now they figured that out, I, this as it is a plug in today, but I have no doubt the underpinnings and architectural thinking here will be just big into these big tools. So if you go and install this plugin for Claude code, I have a hole on, I posted this on Dig, a link to it, and we'll have video support soon on, on Dig, but the full video is, it'll actually link to my X profile where the full video is there.
Starting point is 00:30:50 It's a 25-minute tutorial on how to get this working for yourself. Watch it at 2X and this hit pause when you need to. And you can really, I truly built an entire front-in Twitter clone in about 20 minutes using this whole thing. Honestly, like, functional. I was literally yesterday at a coffee talking about how I'm going to have to take over some code for a project I'm working on. And I was like, I mean, I got cursor. I was like, I was going to move it into cursor and just see how it went. I don't need to use cursor anymore.
Starting point is 00:31:16 The fact that we sat down and you were like, do this new thing, I'm literally going to go home from this taping, watch this video, and then start importing the new code into it. and I'm super excited to see where it takes us. I know we have a lot of geeks watching this show, and if you have yet to dip into coding, now is the time. Just watch this little video and just dream up anything.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Your own little personal CRM, whatever, like the workout app, anything that you just are like, I'd be nice if I had this. Yeah. You will be pleasantly surprised at what this thing can do. And this is not bolt,
Starting point is 00:31:49 this is not replet. This is not lovable. Those are nice little like one-shoters where like you type, they're more than one-shoters, but one-shar, I mean, like, you type in one thing, just builds the entire thing. Those are good.
Starting point is 00:32:00 This is great. So, excited for people to try it out. Mal, you haven't tried it out yet, though, right? I haven't. Wait, you're not using Cursor anymore at all? No, I don't need to. It's crazy. Because I just use plug code and it just does everything.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I use VS code largely, and that's Microsoft's just like cursor is based off of VS code and VS code is their open source just like coding environment. Because it doesn't have all that shit put into it, it's just, I just need to look the files. Yeah. And so I can see the diffs and the changes. and all that, but when I'm looking at the files there. So you're back in VS code. You're just...
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yeah, I know. It's embarrassing. But I am... That's awesome. But I got to tell you, this is no shade on Kirsha, because I have no doubt that in two weeks, I'll be like, remember how I said I wasn't using Grisier?
Starting point is 00:32:40 Yeah, yeah. Because they'll figure out their version of context. Of course. And so they'll have something that will leap frog, and I'll be like, Curse is where it's at. But that's the nature of the tools right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Yeah. So... Yeah, no, it's really, it's really interesting. And the funny thing is, is that it's, first off, back to what you're saying, if you have something that you're like, oh, it would be great if I had X, Y, and Z, that's the way to make the best products. Oh, 100%. The whole thing is the best products on the planet were made to solve a single person's issue that it turns out the majority of the people in the planet have. And you know, I'll add on to that. You know why that's so very important because because it's a personal pain point and it's something you deeply care about, when the times are. tough and there will be tough times, you will still have enough passion and drive to work on it.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Yeah, exactly. You know, because it's never just a, people think of, they, they see these startups that, you know, are a billion dollar plus valuations. They think of it as just like this straight, beautiful line. Yeah. And it's a freaking roller coaster with loop-de-loops and all kinds of emotional things going on. So you have to have that personal drive and passion. Otherwise, you'll be like, eh, I'm done. Yeah. I had too many roadblocks. I'm off. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. All right. Well, shall we talk about quickly? Some sponsors. Well, this is, it's, we do not plan all these sponsors to be tied to stories. But Whisperflow is something that I use 100% at least, at least, I don't know, at least 200 times a day.
Starting point is 00:34:09 You did it right before we went live. Yeah, I'm not even joking. So this is a dictation tool that is AI powered. And if you see me glance down, it's because there's some notes here about it, but I don't even need the nose because I use it so freaking much. The thing I like about it is that you hold down the little function key on your Mac, or it works with Windows and everything else too and mobile. And when you hold it down, it launches this little tiny like little volume type,
Starting point is 00:34:37 little indicator at the bottom. And then you just start talking to it. And it's not only as it dictation because you think of like, oh, I've had dictation before. I've like talked about like Siri or whatever. Dragon speak. Yeah, yeah. Back in the day. That was back in the day.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Oh, yeah. Like two people are like, ha, ha, ha. That was like 20 years ago. One dude still got his headset on that. He's like, I'll still use this. He's like, I'll still use this. So Whisperflow, the cool thing about it is like you can say to it, hey, I'm thinking about coding my app in this way.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Actually, you know what? What I really mean is, and it understands that I kind of backtracked. Yeah. And it cuts all that out. And it puts it together in a clean and concise way in a very smart way that doesn't ruin the meaning. And it only does it every so often. But in a way where I'm like, oh, that is actually what I meant to say.
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Starting point is 00:36:15 I have to have this as a tool. It is the absolute best. Because when you're doing AI coding, you're talking a lot. And it's just, you'd have to type. that all out. And the more information you give the eye when you're coding, the better. So it can kind of understand. So you don't just say, hey, make the button a blue, because I can just type that. With Whisperflow, I know we're done with the sponsor, but in the list below,
Starting point is 00:36:35 I hold down the button and I say, you know, the button though I want to make blue is the one in the upper right. Yeah. And I want to make it this shade of blue and do the blah, blah, blah. And I wouldn't want to type all that out. Anyway, that's what it does. Check it up. All right. Let's talk about Monarch Money.
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Starting point is 00:39:09 I have done that in the past. And I will say to any AI companies out there, you may have not heard what he just did there. Can you do the... if you need like an AI thinking mode. Oh, yeah. That's a great one. I would be like, oh, it's working. Only 10 grand.
Starting point is 00:39:28 10 grand. A session. Let me try it. Let me try it out. What's does current score of the Warriors game? Dude, that's great. That would be you. You would totally use that.
Starting point is 00:39:43 I would totally use that. Man, this thing is really thinking. Don't. It's so good. We've got to record that, put that on dig somewhere. It has like a turn-on option for when you invoke AI at some point. Oh, God, checking. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:56 All right. Next story. Analysts say Apple's foldable iPhone could launch in 2026, but widespread shipments may not hit until 2027. This was submitted by Shetty. Shetty? Shetty. Spelled Sussed.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Shee, she-D. Sheedy. Shedy. Shed-D-D is what I said. Shedy. Shed-D-I-I. Kind of cool. It could be Shed-2.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Like the double I. Could be shed two. Yep. Shed two. So here's the thing. Shed the second. Shed the second. Ah, young, the young apprentice of shed.
Starting point is 00:40:35 The man who created the internet. I'm shed two. Shed the second. This is the, yeah, it's the second skin shedding. Anyway, all the same. is to say I wanted to talk about the potential. We have been, it has been rumored for years and years, the potential of a foldable iPhone.
Starting point is 00:40:57 When I first heard about this, I went, I don't need this. And then I started talking to some friends. I really don't need this. I really don't need this. But then I was like, no, I don't need this. Yes. No, I started talking to some friends. And my buddy said something that made me go,
Starting point is 00:41:14 oh, okay, I get this, which is, if my phone could be a phone in my pocket when I'm out of the house, and when I sit down on the couch, it turns into my iPad Mini, that would be a good thing. And I went, yeah, that would be a good thing. But at the same time, you have an iPad Mini. Right, but I don't, but if I don't, let's say I go on vacation, right? I'm not going to take my iPad Mini, for the most part, because why? I'm just thinking, like, you take your phone. out and you're like phone, phone, phone, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah. Just phone. And then all of a sudden you're like, on the extra weight the entire time. But is it going to be that much more heavy? I mean, it's going to be at least some heavier. I mean, I get where you're talking about. I will say, I did see the Google phone, which is the latest kind of like cool, the pixel phone.
Starting point is 00:42:02 The one that's with the three? No, no, I didn't see the three. There's a three. That was CES was three. Yeah, yeah. I know, I know. The foldable phone thing, I want, when you, when you hold one. And you see in the real estate, you're like, oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah. And then you're like, well, I should send a text message. You open up in, it's like, there's like bigger text message area. I'm like, oh, I just don't see. Yeah, but then you just fold it closed. Now you're in regular text message. Yeah, I don't know if I know what that way. And you open it up to read the answer and then close it.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Yeah. I will. Again, I don't know if I need it, but it's interesting. The one thing I think that is the coolest thing that Apple has done recently. I got the new iPad because my old one was kind of dead. Yeah, yeah. And I got the bigger one. It's really thin.
Starting point is 00:42:45 And I got the new keyboard that comes with it and everything. And do you know, they now allow like tiled windows and windows floating over windows. Ooh. Yeah. And they give you a real mouse cursor. Oh. And it, dude, it feels like MacOS. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:42:59 It's insane. Huh. It is like I'm, I would have literally believed like I'm in inside of like a full on Mac OS. Yeah. Because I have multiple windows sitting on top of each other and everything. It's worth trying. That was a real thing. cool unlock, but you can't run certain things still.
Starting point is 00:43:16 But that's where they're going. That OS actually is better than Mac OS. Like, if you look at the way they do, they're minimizing and everything and the way the dock appears. So you think at some point they're just going to kind of merge. Oh, 100%. And I hope it's the iPad OS that takes over because just the usability of it all is way better than what we have on Mac OS.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I don't know. Mal thoughts if you play with it? It's great. It feels like, remember Netbooks were a thing where it was kind of a full computer. but really couldn't do all the things. And it was like connected. The internet was just like on like a 2G or whatever it was or LTE or whatever. Yeah, I remember those.
Starting point is 00:43:51 But unfortunately that means like, ah, it's just a netbook not quite as powerful as like my MacBook Pro. Yeah. Yeah. I can't imagine people editing, like doing like hardcore editing software and stuff on an iPad, but maybe. No, dude, the chips are getting better. I know, this is true. It's always about the chips. It's always about the chips.
Starting point is 00:44:11 We shall see. All right. Next story. Next story of the day is going to be, well, this one's kind of crazy. A company called Humans and, which was founded by ex-anthropic, X-A-I, and Google staff. Oh. They're building a collaborative AI, which sounds cool, whatever. Yeah, whatever that is. Seed round, a fat financing.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Great. Yeah. Seed round is like a couple hundred grand, your personal thing. Maybe make a million bucks, maybe two. Yeah, yeah. It depends on how big your team is and all that. Yeah. $480 million seed round with a valuation right out of the gate of $4.48 billion.
Starting point is 00:44:54 That is ridiculous. Isn't it? No, it is. Yes. I was like, you should know. No, it's actually, I mean, this is where... Like, why didn't they call that a series C? Or F.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, it is crazy to me to think. that well this it comes down to this we are in a world where there are a handful of people that are at leading edge of AI but also they just have the the skill set in the mind that is one that can rethink how the foundational models function and that is a very specialized skill set of maybe call it 200 people in the world probably have that are that are kind of at that level to be able to commit serious, you know, new logic for how you build that foundational learning. And so those people
Starting point is 00:45:48 are at a premium. That's why Zuck is paying, you know, bonuses of tens of millions just to join the team because it's not just like it's an engineer. It's not like you graduate school and they're like, oh, cool, let me give you $10 million to come join. Yeah. You have to have this very specific skill set. And apparently, whoever they put together warranted this type of valuation. I mean, ex-anthropic, X-A-I, X-A-I, X-Goole, I mean, even if it's five or ten of those people from all those, and they were senior-level people or at least known in the world to be high-level people? Like, I get it. The thing for me would be, what was the pitch, man? That's why I got to meet these guys.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Like, what was the thing that they're going to be? I got to go and meet these guys. So the humans. Go back and tell us. I will. Well, I won't. brother who they probably
Starting point is 00:46:41 I mean I won't they probably would allow me to tell you but uh they would just tell me I want to I want to meet them find out what the pitch is
Starting point is 00:46:48 because I'm really curious I believe something because it's got to be really different well then what's happening I'm a huge fan of thinking through this intersection
Starting point is 00:46:57 of social collaborative AI and I have some prototypes of things that I've been thinking about and I would love more people to work with me in that arena
Starting point is 00:47:06 and I got to meet with them I just because like there's very few people thinking about what that means because it's a very tricky thing because it can feel super creepy. Yeah. Weird. Not trustworthy. There's weird third person in the conversation that you don't really trust. Exactly. Yeah. Everything I've seen right now has been we're going to bolt on AI and it'll just like hey yeah, ready, how you doing? And I'm like, that's not it. No. And so it's, uh, these guys must have something. You must have some. I must have at least a take. At least a good pitch deck. Yeah. I mean, I want to see the pitch deck. I got 20 bucks It's like you get the pitch check
Starting point is 00:47:42 Alex has raised $500 million at a $5 billion post You're like I just mind if I'd pick jack A collaborative B-I Just change one letter in the pitch Exactly Oh god I'm future All right before we head on
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Starting point is 00:50:41 to your computer. And you can come in and that interface is beautiful. You can have to do all different types of things. It can organize your files locally. It can create prep for a meeting. It can tie into your calendar, your Gmail, all that thing. Think of
Starting point is 00:50:57 this as just like once everything is tied in and you need a dashboard to work with AI, that's what this co-work working space is like. Interesting. And then they added Claude code built in here as well. So now Claude code is in preview, but it's also built into the Claude desktop app. You can tie it directly to GitHub and then start coding directly from here, which is a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:51:20 It's early days here, but they're doing a lot of tweaks on it. It was really interesting. Shout out to Anthropic because there was something, well, it's kind of a, it's a, well, well, I don't want to seem like it's a, it's a, it's a, well, I don't want to seem like it's a, it's a, it's a, It's a flex, but it was very kind of them. One of their engineers and product designers there, I had a chat with them. I was like, hey, wouldn't it be cool if, you know, Anthropa had this as part of their desktop app. And he texted me back at 630 that night.
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Starting point is 00:53:40 I'm going to go keep doing it. Try that super code. The compounding entertainment. All right. Last story of the day. Tesla's full stuff driving is switching to a subscription only service. This was submitted by Jellyfish. in that lovely new community, electric vehicles. I, man, I went to, you know, Alphina, Alphia, it's the Sony Honda collaboration where they're making an electric vehicle. I went to their opening in Beverly Hills to see the car early. It was interesting because they had mentioned that their self-driving stuff was going to be, based on a monthly subscription premium.
Starting point is 00:54:33 And in my mind, I was like, wait, what? Like, that feels weird that you would have a subscription to, there it is, Afila, Afila, that's what it is. Yeah, that's the new Sony Honda co-lab. But it was interesting because I was like, why would your self-driving, like that feels like such a feature. It's not something that, it's not like Sirius XM radio. where you're like, I mean, the car does it, but it's like, do I want that entertainment package or not?
Starting point is 00:55:03 Right. But then to know that Tesla is moving into their subscription service for full self-driving, it just feels like this is part of what makes electric cars sexy, is this ability to have self-driving. Right. And the other thing is at CES, we talked about like having your own. Waymo. Like, I took a Waymo here. I would love to have my own Waymo so that I could
Starting point is 00:55:32 decide, do I want to get in the way? No, no, no. But it's like you decide, do you want to get in your car and have it go? I've got to make a call. I've got to do some more. Just take me to my place. Or I'll drive myself. And so there's a car company called Tenser, Tenser Auto, and they were showed off at CES. And it
Starting point is 00:55:50 basically is a car that can do the Waymo stuff, but you can also drive it as a car. And when you go into level four, you can put in your destination and hit go, and it basically takes the steering wheel away and slides over a screen. Whoa. But if you look at it, it's got all of the same, it looks like a Waymo. And I go, I don't care if my car looks like a Waymo if it drives like a Waymo.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Right. Like, I don't need it to be like this super slick. Look how cool. It's like a Waymo. Yeah. But you could buy that and then you could drive it if you want, just fully electric. Or you can rent it out. Or you could just drive it.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Or forget. renting it out or you could just say, you know what, take me to this meeting because I got emails to do all my way. Yeah, but you're never going to drive it. I would totally drive it. Like if I'm going to the grocery store, I might just hop in real quick, take it around the corner, you know what I mean? But I wouldn't like, but if I'm going to come here for an episode of Dignation, I'll be like, look. Oh, look the screen sliding over. And now it's in a waymo. Look how cool that guy is. He's just like, I'm in a waymo. He's like, I'm in a waymo. But again, this is one of those things that like, I'm in a tensor. But this is one of
Starting point is 00:56:58 those things, like, but I don't know if I would get this if I had to pay a monthly fee for that service. Because I'm already buying the car. Like, this is all stuff baked into the car. Like, if I had a Tesla and I had full self-driving, it already does it. I guarantee you there's going to be a monthly service for this as well. No. Well, think about it this way.
Starting point is 00:57:17 This is the, listen, I hate monthly services. But if it is a monthly service, then I'm not buying the car. Well, two things. Like, make the car free and I'll pay a monthly service. That I would do. That's called leasing. I mean, I do that already If you can make the car free
Starting point is 00:57:32 And if I could just pay a monthly service Leasing Alex? So hear me out, hear me out But it drives me out, hear me out, hear me out Okay, I'm hearing you out Okay, so it was eight Gs to like get the Full self driving A lot of people when they're buying a Tesla
Starting point is 00:57:48 They're like, you know, I don't necessarily want to spend an extra eight grand Like I got to talk to my sister about this And like for her like an extra eight grand is like Maybe I don't want this car. Yeah, 100%. But the magic of self-driving is so cool that I think once you can see it and feel it, you're kind of like don't want to go back, right? And so if you do subscription, one, it's more affordable for people because they can afford to pay that month.
Starting point is 00:58:12 It is because it's $99 a month or $1,000 a year. So you have a three-year lease on a car like I did. Instead of $8,000, it would be $3. And then think about this, it is important. Like, these things can't stay static. they have to have ongoing R&D to become better and better over time. The only way they're going to make money on this, I mean, and continue to spend massive amounts of money on training and better safety
Starting point is 00:58:38 and R&D is going to be some kind of recurring revenue for the company. Yeah. You know, so I actually don't hate that because it's more affordable for consumers, provides an additional recurring revenue stream for the company as developing. For R&D to continue getting it better, yeah. Your upgrades are free, right? Like, you always get the latest. It better be free because I'm already paying for it.
Starting point is 00:58:58 No, I don't. But like, I think we've always like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But when you're paying for it monthly, it makes sense. Like, you don't want to be locked into old software. Like old cars. Yeah. Like the cars that you would have that would do like lane change. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Yeah. Like, it wasn't like I could get lane change plus. Like, it was like that was the software that came on the car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's the best it could ever be. Yeah. So I don't know. I do like the affordability side of it.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Remember what they did? Do you remember when they did the Tesla for like three months of this thing where, or maybe it was longer that, like a year where if you bought one, they would give you unlimited fueling. Like, we could just plug it in. I have that on my account still. If I get an S or an X, I get unlimited supercharging. It continues on?
Starting point is 00:59:37 Because I bought my, or at least my first S when they did a promo in January 9, 10 years ago. I think they killed that, though. No, but it was on my account for life. And it continues on? Yeah. We sell me your account? Maybe. Well, I'm just, because these things are hot now.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I know those old cars. They get the free charging. Yeah, they have the free charging. People are like, they have the command of premium. Because like, if you're an Uber driver or whatever and you want like, that's like, that's a lot of free money. Yeah. So anyway, it's, dude, this is the next decade of these types of cars. That's going to be crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:12 That tensor looked dope as hell. I would buy one of those in a heartbeat. Dude, to be able to get in and be like, oh, I'm just going to the grocery store. I'll drive myself or, oh, I got a meeting across town. Just take me there. It's so funny that I just tweeted this morning. I said that I've gotten in a couple of Waymoes recently where there's been trash laying around. That's funny.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I just on my way here. And it drives me nuts because I'm like, come on, people. Yeah. What about the next person getting in? Yeah. I proposed, and who cares? No one's going to listen. But what I was, I proposed that they do a, because they have all those cameras in there.
Starting point is 01:00:46 They can definitely do object recognition. They know the layout of the car. Dude, I got out of my car and I forgot my bag and it was like, you forgot your bag. See? So they're doing it. Yeah, so they know. free and post scan. Yep.
Starting point is 01:00:56 And they'll know who's leaving the trash. Yeah, just out of key. And kick those motherfuckers out of the platform. Yeah. Warn them. Warn them. But then politely kicked them. Like, you're not wrong.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Yeah. I support it. That's it. People, dude, Heather, like, the number one thing that pisses Heather off in our neighborhood is we have so many people that litter. I have literally seen people parked outside of my house, open a door and put an entire platter.
Starting point is 01:01:24 of eaten chicken wings on the ground, close their door and drive off. Who the fuck does that? Do you have a composting bin? I don't have a composting bin yet. I mean, I don't need free compost from the world.
Starting point is 01:01:39 And you don't want to compost chicken yet. And I don't want to compost that guy's chicken. But it's just like, who thinks that that's the way to fucking live on this planet? This is the United States, man. It's so freaking everybody thinks of this. It's the main character syndrome. the country. Here we go. That is it for this week's edition of Dig Nation. This week's, this
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