Diggnation (rebooted) - Scoring a $400 Refund Thanks to AI | Diggnation
Episode Date: October 30, 2024In this episode, we’re diving into mind-blowing AI breakthroughs, a tech hack that scored Kevin a $400 refund, and Tesla’s latest RoboTaxi reveal. We’ll also discuss the Dodgers’ Ohta...ni memorabilia auction and Alex’s first experience using Claude 3.5. Get ready for laughs, surprising insights, and some practical tips you didn’t know you needed. Join us for another jam-packed episode of Diggnation!Here's that GLP-1 Probiotic trail!: https://www.kevinrose.com/p/a-natural-alternative-to-glp-1-drugsChapters:00:00 - Kicking Off & Halloween VibesHalloween vibes are in full swing as Kevin and Alex discuss costumes, costume shopping, and getting ahead of the game for all those spooky parties.03:50 - Fan Mail Surprise: Mystery Beer UnboxingA fan sends in a mystery beer, sparking some jokes about whether to trust it or not. Spoiler: They do.08:15 - Thanksgiving & Trailer Bloopers FlashbacksRevisiting hilarious Thanksgiving and trailer bloopers from previous episodes and the infamous moments that never made the final cut.09:37 - Kevin’s “Secret Project” Job PostingKevin reveals a special AI-related project and outlines the dream team he’s assembling. Interested in the roles? Watch the episode to learn more.12:21 - Biohacking Talk: GLP-1 Study & Peter Attia’s BookKevin shares the latest on an upcoming study around GLP-1 and probiotics and discusses Peter Attia’s influential book, *Outlive*, along with the biohacking tools he’s using.19:55 - Longevity Tip: Strong Legs for a Longer LifeAlex and Kevin wrap up with insights on leg strength and its surprising impact on longevity. It’s a call to action for building strength and staying mobile as we age.21:24 - Special Deal: GLP-1 for ListenersKevin introduces a GLP-1 probiotic that reduces sugar cravings, complete with a money-back guarantee for listeners. https://www.kevinrose.com/p/a-natural-alternative-to-glp-1-drugs23:10 - Anthropic’s Claude 3.5: Next-Level AIAlex talks about trying out the new Claude 3.5 AI, its capabilities, and the features that could make it a game-changer in everything from productivity to accessibility.41:49 - AI Hacks & $400 Refund TrickKevin shares how he used a Custom GPT based on *Crucial Conversations* to get a $400 refund and offers more AI tips for handling customer service and negotiations.46:45 - Tesla’s RoboTaxi Announcement & ReactionsTesla’s new RoboTaxi design gets mixed reactions. Alex describes the unique look, no steering wheel, and what could be the future of autonomous urban transportation.54:48 - Tesla Stock Surge & Q3 EarningsWe dive into Tesla’s recent Q3 earnings report and stock performance, speculating on what this means for the future of EVs and Tesla’s role in the industry.58:53 - Oura Ring 4 UpdatesThe latest on the Oura Ring 4, its new features, and whether it’s worth the upgrade.01:13:23 - Comedy Break: “Cock Rings”One of those classic Diggnation moments: an unexpected and hilarious side tangent that brings the laughs.01:16:49 - Dodgers’ Shohei Ohtani Auction RecordAlex talks about Dodgers star Shohei Ohtani and the wild price his 50/50 ball recently fetched at auction. Link to Story01:27:33 - Kevin Reveals His Halloween CostumeKevin tries on his Halloween costume for the first time on the show, giving us a sneak peek and sharing some hilarious commentary with Alex.Things Mentioned in This EpisodeBoeing Documentary – A deep dive into Boeing’s controversial 737 Max design and the resulting global issues. Watch on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/title/81272421Hugging Face AI – Kevin talks about Hugging Face as the “GitHub for AI,” where developers can find and share ML models.Peter Attia’s Book: Outlive – A recommended read on longevity, health optimization, and fitness by Kevin.Crucial Conversations (Book) – The negotiation and communication techniques Kevin used to secure a refund. Highly recommended for handling tough conversations.🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0bzwpvUwHNLiGqlcTCBKJZ?si=8da8435d747d4fb9📱 Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thediggnation📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thediggnationDon't forget to like, subscribe, and leave your thoughts in the comments!
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I'm being dead serious now.
This is the most important thing.
You're dyslexic.
Ah, fuck off.
I'm serious.
I might be.
Dignation covers some of the hottest news stories
circling around the toilet that is the internet.
Dude, handicapped people are stoked.
It's like a fucking Chinese handbag
that I'm supposed to put over my nuts.
Not that there's anything wrong with Chinese handbags.
If you wore to a Chinese handbag.
He was like, I will tell you the three things
that changed my life. One of them I forgot, but he was great.
Get hammered and get in.
Dude, I would love it.
A cock ring?
Yeah. No.
You want a little choke?
Yeah.
Happy Halloween, everybody.
Happy Halloween.
Drum roll, please.
Do not include this mouth.
Welcome to Dignation. his mouth.
Welcome to Dignation. Also potentially hazardous to your health.
Alright, moving on.
Why do you have flies in your freaking house? I noticed this earlier.
It's Southern California and I have fruit.
You put zombie and you put ear in the title and I don't want to do it.
Dignation.com
Hello friends and family. Welcome to Dignation. I'm Kevin Rose.
And I'm Alex Albrecht. Dignation covers some of the hottest news stories
circling around the toilet that is the internet.
The internet is really spicy right now.
There's a lot of stuff on the internet that we aren't gonna talk about
oh my god
that just reminded me
of something that I saw
that I was like
oh wow
we cannot talk about that
and I don't even really
remember what it was
thank you for
leaving the audience
yeah I know
that's what we do
here at Dig Nation
we've been back for
I think this is episode
four
five
five
mouse was five
mouse was five
okay
five of the reboot yes i have been enjoying it immensely
same yeah same we got a good cadence like every three weeks right now uh yeah this is going to
be a little bit uh delayed i think this is four weeks because there was some travel oh my god
sort of out and about which by the way how was your trip? Oh, my gosh. It was good. It was like I basically have been on, I think it was eight airplanes in the last three weeks,
which you know how much I love flying.
Do you still just like get drunk?
No, no.
I'm actually way better now.
You do Xanax?
I love it.
It's my favorite thing.
Well, no, but I mean, I literally have a prescription for Xanax.
Just for flights.
If the flight is over like four hours, I'll just pop one because why not?
Yeah.
But I'm constantly calling my doctor every like four years and being like, hey, can I get a refill?
And the ladies on the phone are like, no, you have to come in to see the doctor to talk about it.
And I was like, that's not how I'm using the Xanax.
Right, right, right.
It's not like you're using it every day.
Yeah, and they're like, well, we'll talk to the doctor.
And then I just get a text that's like like your prescription is ready to be picked up.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah. I mean, it's helpful.
That does really help me as well.
For like long haul stuff.
But I use something similar.
And if I don't want to drink and, but I'm kidding.
You know what's funny is when you're doing that many flights,
you can actually kind of get used to it.
Yeah.
And I'm just like, eh, whatever.
Although I was on one of those fucking 787 Max's or the bad ones. The ones that like crash and shit. Oh yeah. You actually were on the Max. I was on one of those fucking 787 Maxes, the bad ones, the ones that like crash and shit.
Oh, yeah.
You actually were on the Max.
I was on one of those.
Yeah.
I didn't know it.
737 Max.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I sat, oh, I watched the Boeing documentary.
Oh, I know.
That was so intense, dude.
Yeah.
And so then I get on the freaking plane and it's like, Max, I'm a little like, how not to die?
Oh, no.
And you're like, that's the first thing you shouldn't do.
Why are they branding it
that yes because it's their by the way their best-selling airplane to date i know but like
now everybody so anyway it's a long story i was on it and i was literally like you know i wasn't
gonna drink and i'm like bam uh yeah we didn't take it off i'm like uh yeah yeah yeah refill
i'd like to max my alcohol on this one please so? So. That documentary on, I think it's on Netflix, but man, that documentary was scary.
Speaking about scary.
Hey.
Drinks Today.
This showed up in the mail from some type of fan.
Oh, that is scary.
And it has no, it has no, it has like a, it almost looks like a legit label, except there's
no ABV on it.
Oh, so there's no government labeling.
Yeah.
So I'm like, could be a printout with poison inside.
It could be.
I don't know.
But it also could be really good.
We've never been poisoned by a fan yet.
Not yet.
You know what?
There's always time.
Now that we're back.
Thanks to all the fans that never poisoned us.
What does it say?
Root and branch?
Root and branch.
It's life and fate.
Okay, I don't smell any poison.
I mean, it's literally called life and fate.
Get out of here.
Just like the label says.
Maybe poison?
I almost spit it out all over the place.
Dude, I felt it like go semi up my nose.
Like, you know when it's...
Dude, you...
First...
Within the first year, you threw up on my couch.
No, but what I love is like...
What if it said like,
Kevin, if you're reading this...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're fucked.
Amazing. Yeah, it's got like a psilocy and you can take it, you're fucked. Amazing.
Yeah, it's got like a syllabus island or whatever.
A syllabus island.
How is it?
It's pretty good.
It's pretty good.
It's paleo root and branch.
And it came with no information except the can.
That's it.
Okay.
That's it.
But it was weird.
I think I gave my address to somebody.
I'm pretty sure.
Your home address?
That shut up?
No, I had a PO box.
I think what happened is I gave my address to somebody. I'm pretty sure. Your home address? No, no, no. I had a P.O. box. I think what happened is I gave my address.
Whenever anyone asked me that I don't know that well, and I'm like, oh, but you're still cool.
Yeah, we have a mailbox.
And so I basically gave that address.
And I'm pretty sure I know who it was from.
But like, well, so thank you for that.
But there was no note.
Otherwise, I would thank you personally.
But it was actually quite good. I love that you've got to this place in your life where you will dual wield a random stranger's
beer that could be poison and some nice champagne.
Because beer is nice.
I know.
It's so funny.
Although probiotics, I got to tell you about some crazy shit.
Oh, yeah.
I'm very excited about that.
Yeah, yeah.
And then red wine, you're not?
Because I mean, I feel like the first couple episodes, we were like partying with the red
wine train.
You and me, brah.
We were. But I'm telling you, when I sleep, I get the red wine sweats, you know?
I don't know.
You don't ever get that?
Not really.
Like you just don't sweat?
I mean, I...
You don't wake up like sweaty, like, I drank too much, I'm a little sweaty. You ever drink that?
Only when I'm sick.
Okay, interesting. But you're drinking when you're sick too?
I'm drinking all the time, Kevin.
Actually, the funny thing is that I drink red wine when I'm not sick,
and then Jack Daniels when I'm sick, because I need a little something to just kick it.
Dude, you know what's funny?
Just kick it.
I've actually had that happen a couple times.
It's great.
Well, the cold is hanging on.
I know there's no science, but the cold is hanging on.
Science is in here.
It's like five days in.
And you're like, you know what?
One little like... And then you sweat.
That's when you sweat.
That's when you sweat. Exactly. Okay. Anyway.
We're doctors.
So, I was gonna say
to everybody out there,
because I believe this might drop a couple
days before, but happy Halloween,
everybody. Happy Halloween. In fact, if you stick around,
I'm going to beta test my Halloween costume,
which no one has seen here.
This will be the first time I'm trying it on.
This is the best.
And I will say it is not complete,
so it may look a little...
You should come out with no pants on.
It's just like, oh, Rocky from Rocky looks older.
But, you know, we'll put the uh i was thinking about halloween
first off i'm excited yeah secondly maybe you can help workshop my i've not i do this every year
are you going to party i've got two parties to go to that's fine uh and it's like one of those
things where it's like every fucking year i'm like i'm gonna get so ahead of the curve i'm gonna
knock it out of the park dude etsy so dude. Etsy. So you gotta do it.
Etsy.
Etsy's the best for that, like, medium tier, like, not the shit you get at, like, freaking CVS.
Etsy. Because I can always order shit off Amazon, but it always comes and I'm like,
it's like a fucking Chinese handbag that I'm supposed to put over my nuts.
Not that there's anything wrong with Chinese handbags.
If you order a Chinese handbag, that's what you want.
That's what you expect. That's right.
But if you're ordering, you know, like, a Gordon Gekko suit costume and it comes in like a
little napkin.
Well, and then you get it and it's thin and then you look at that kind of kind of didn't
try.
You know that smell.
I know.
When you open a package and you're like, that's cancer.
Well, it's because they, if they have to ship certain things long distances, they put stuff
so the bugs don't get in and eat the stuff.
It's actually poison.
I'd rather, I'd rather have the bugs.
Yeah.
So what are you going to be?
I don't know. This is what I'm saying. We're going to have to workshop, maybe off camera.
But it made me realize, of all the years that we did Dignation, seven and a half years,
I'm assuming either seven or maybe eight.
Did we?
We dressed up for Thanksgiving.
That's what I was going to say.
I remember.
Can we show a little clip of that?
Oh, my God.
The Joel fire is the best.
We couldn't keep our shit together.
Oh, my God. That was the best. We could not keep our shit together.
The outtakes was better than the actual play.
We just tried to make our freaking YouTube channel intro.
Can we show some of the outtakes of that now?
We're back!
Yeah.
Do you want to switch?
Yeah, I'll start.
Okay.
He's getting a switch place.
Here we go.
All right, ready?
Hello friends, this is Not In AI Hallucination.
You are actually watching YouTube with Kevin Rose and Alice.
Anyway, enjoy the stuff.
Subscribe like.
Subscribe like.
Okay.
It says subscribe.
Who would've characters that?
It's me.
You're mine. Yeah, so we tried to do a YouTube, like, little intro.
Which is funny because I had said, in my mind, I was like, A, we're professionals.
Right.
We have literally done this for a living for a long time.
Yes.
And I was like, we're going to nail it.
And then I was like, back then, we were kids.
We didn't know what we were doing.
It was comedy.
You know what I mean?
Like, we had, it was like a little sketch.
Oh, boy, did that go off the rails yeah yeah did we haven't gotten any better we were professional drinkers more than anything i think is what it came down
to i think you're right about that um i think you're right about all right so let's get into
some uh fun stories um first and foremost i just wanted to do a little hinsies at something that's coming down the road that I'm pretty excited about.
So this is just a... How are you going to put it? How are you going to put it? The best way I'm
going to put this is that there is a project that I have a couple of colleagues working on
that is very, very cool. And I've never gone out and kind of done
a mass solicitation
for engineers.
But this project requires
a very special
skill set. Got it.
So, like, the guy from
Taken has a very
specific set of skills. Does he kill people?
He does. Okay. But it's a very specific
set of skills. You won't have to kill anyone.
But you do need to know some different stuff. So I just
want to throw out a couple things here. Here's the deal.
You're going to list technologies. I'm going to list some technologies.
If this makes sense to you, which it won't to
a lot of people, then
apply. And you'll probably,
if you know what these technologies do,
don't drop it in the chat, DPT. You might
understand what we're kind of building towards.
We're going to need an AI engineer, React Native, engineer uh react native very senior very very very very senior engineer so
none of this like bullshit um and uh just a general senior front-end engineer um react for
more the ios and android side okay so this is where it gets crazy what we need is someone that
is uh familiar with uh ml framework so it could be PyTorch,
TensorFlow,
distributed processing like
Spark or Beam, vector similarity
search,
feature stores and ML pipelines.
Basically, if you're
hanging out in Hugging Face, have you messed around with
Hugging Face? No. Hugging Face is like
the place for AI, like where you
can install your own AI like shit. Oh, yeah. I've not been there, but I've heard. It's really cool. It's like the place for ai like where you can install your own ai like shit oh
yeah i've not been there but i've heard it's really cool it's like it's like the github for
like ai stuff oh so if you hang out on hugging face um that this is what we're looking for last
thing um you have to have experience with real-time databases and caching systems like
dynamo db big table redis uh Kafka, Kinesis, things like that.
So that's all I can say for now.
If you're very senior and you know what all those words mean, you're into vector databases,
you understand similarity engines in vector world, let's talk.
You hug faces.
Secret at kevinrose.com.
I promise you, this is a mind-blowing idea fun thing so
anyway i love that and if you're a really senior ios uh android folks like that as well
all right interesting but mostly i would probably go react native if we're going to do that because
that lets you do both platforms all right that's all i want to say on that front. First story of the day. So this one is a really fun one, largely because I would say that, well, I'll tell you a couple,
a couple of things that are really interesting. So about five years ago, Peter Ortia, who's like
a really well-known like rockstar physician these days, he's been my like longevity, like
health coach doctor for about 12 years now. So yeah, I had known for a long time. He's been my longevity health coach doctor for about 12 years now. Oh, wow.
Yeah, I've known him for a long time. He's an awesome guy.
My brother-in-law gave me his book.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
It's fantastic. Did you read it?
Nah.
You should. It's fantastic. Anyway.
I don't want to read a book that's just going to be like,
yeah, I shouldn't do any of the things I'm doing with my life.
It's pretty much what it is.
Cover to cover.
Cover to cover.
It's going to be like, and I'm doing that wrong, and I'm doing that wrong and I'm doing that wrong
alcohol is bad for you
next page
you should work out
next page
yeah exactly
I did
I will say
I've not had
and then we'll get back to it
I've not had McDonald's
in over two years
oh fuck
and I've not had Taco Bell
in a year
I mean that's good too
dude those were the two
like things I would just
but is it like
is it like Burger King
and Del Taco
was like last week
kind of thing
no no
like okay cause here's the thing if I'm not going to mcdonald's why would i go anywhere else
i really actively dislike most fast food stuff except mcdonald's you know you have the brands
no i got your brand mcdonald's the only one i ever would ever have tempted at all would be del taco
which is so funny so my my wife, Heather, is a
Del Taco person over Taco Bell,
and I think Del Taco is like,
why am I even here? Del Taco is like going to
an Arby's to me. No. Why am I even
here? Well, first of all, don't hate
on an Arby's? An Arby's?
Oh my god, Kevin. Do you remember Arby's?
No, no, actually. No, I do not remember
any Arby's. Do you remember the Arby's with
the melted cheese? No, I do not. You don't remember that? I mean, I remember any Arby's thing. Do you remember the Arby's with the melted cheese?
No, I do not.
You don't remember?
I mean, I remember that Arby's existed and there were things, but I've never been.
The French dip?
I've only been once, I think, or twice.
God, Arby's was so good back in the day when I was a kid.
It was so good.
See, McDonald's might stop as a kid.
This is the point of my story.
But we're talking about...
Okay, Peter Tia.
Peter Tia.
Seven years ago.
He's like, hey, I got this crazy peptide.
It's a GLP-1 agonist.
And there was like, nobody knew what those were.
And now we call that Ozempic.
Gotcha.
And nobody knew what that was.
GLP-1 peptide, yeah.
Yeah, nobody knew what that was back in the day.
And he has you do these things called DEXA scans, which are these really bone density scans.
It also scans your visceral fat, your muscle mass.
I don't know if I need all that.
No, but what's interesting about-
Oh, because that's the fat that's around the organs, which is horrible for you.
Exactly.
Okay.
So if he looks at high, and he sees, okay, you're a skinny dude, but you have high visceral fat. Yeah. How can we get that down? Right. Cause that's the stuff that's really bad for you.
So anyway, I'm a, I'm a, he knows I'm a biohacker. I'm on the edges of his, his, his like patient
population where he will like give me the wild, crazy shit. So I tried Ozempic before it was like
called Ozempic like seven years ago. Oh wow. And so I tried it for like a month and it got my
visceral fat down. It was like, it worked really, really well.
And then it become, you know, it was this blockbuster drug and all this shit.
Now it's all over the place.
But it's really interesting because there's this lady, Colleen, she's like this insane scientist that has come up with a probiotic that you have to produce it in an oxygen-free environment and so she built
this like entire lab she basically made space in her lab well basically but not gravity but yeah
oxygen-free oh yeah you can't have gravity it's just like a little pill floating across
like oh that's the new thing i just made that was not it but but they discovered that in in the like
lower kind of culinary there's no oxygen down there. In my lower colon?
Yeah.
Maybe it's a little higher up in there, but it's somewhere around there.
I have an oxygen-free zone.
Yeah, oxygen-free zone.
Got it.
And that's where these bacteria grow.
And so they found this strain that naturally increases GLP-1.
And so it's fascinating.
So this is a true story.
I'm at this partner office at True Ventures that we're at.
Yeah.
So this is a true story.
I'm at this partner office at True Ventures that we're at.
Yeah.
And one of my colleagues, like, she's always been, like, really, like, slender and fine.
Yeah, healthy.
But she, like, was really looking, like, super fit.
And I was like, oh, shit, like, you know, it's kind of hard to say things to colleagues. But I was just like, well, what's new?
And she's like, oh i i cut up my
chocolate cravings and i'm like how huh she's like yeah i used to eat a whole chocolate bar
when i get one i get really excited i eat the whole bar i mean i'm that way with all fucking
candies yeah but now she's like i've been taking this probiotic and it's like cut out my cravings
because it's increasing my natural glp-1 and like there's and so but to be fair and i want to just like be fully
transparent here it is um it is a company that we invested in that's how we had early access to try
it out so please this is not an ad for this but here's what happened i i got a hold of the ceo
and i was like this is pretty freaking cool yeah and i'm like um uh would you come on my podcast
to talk about she's like yeah and so i had her on a couple days ago it hasn't come out yet or
by the time this comes out.
And I said to her, I said, okay, listen,
like I don't want to have this be an ad
because there's no like,
she's not paying me to do this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I said, would you do this one thing?
Let's do an experiment with my audience
where we give everyone three months of this shit.
Oh my God, dude.
And if it doesn't work,
then I,
because she doesn't offer money back guarantees.
And I was like,
with my audience,
would you do a money back guarantee? Because they have like 90% of people that use it
by again because it's like really working. Yeah. And she's like, that's really interesting. We
had never thought about it cause people could take advantage of it. But if we did a really
targeted, like just for your audience, yeah, then, then we'll do this. So anyway,
I'll hook you up with someone as well. Um, it's,
it's insane.
And it's,
um,
so the cool thing about it is one,
I was absolutely not paid to do this,
but two,
if at day 89,
you're like,
this didn't work for me.
All it is is an email.
No,
like return the shit or anything.
Yeah.
And then you'll get all your money back.
Um,
I just said it because I've had so many friends hit me up being like,
I don't have a period to you.
Yeah.
I don't have a special doctor. Yeah. And so it cost me a grand a month. Yeah. Yeah being like, I don't have a period to you. Yeah. I don't have a special doctor.
Yeah.
And so it cost me a grand a month.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
To get on one of these freaking shopping.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, how can I, like, I feel left out.
And this to me feels like a safer, like, more interesting way to naturally do it.
What, how much is it a month?
And I mean, you know, comparing it to a thousand bucks a month.
Yeah, so I would have to look.
Actually, I really don't even know.
But I think it's like, that's a great question.
I really don't know.
I mean, I feel like that would be a question.
No, it's a great point.
I never looked.
I know.
That would be amazing if it was like, oh, it's $75,000.
Yeah, the three months is $185.
Okay, okay.
Well, that's a shit ton cheaper than $1,000 or $1,500 a month.
It's also covered by your hsa and
fsa so they they um it's covered by your like those health plans as well so you can actually
get it uh that way as well but anyway and you don't have to have a doctor's prescription
i just say that because i know there's a lot of people the thing that kills me is like my father
passed away from from heart disease largely because he was a very obese man.
And he also was predisposed for it genetically.
But he was probably, I don't know, maybe 120 pounds overweight, something like that. Big dude.
This would definitely have impacted him.
Well, I just, I'm just like, dude, if we can help people, people don't realize that it's not just heart disease.
If you're overweight, like severely overweight, there's like, I think it's like 12 different cancers that are linked to obesity.
Like it's not good shit. Well, but also your fucking joints, your, you know what I
mean? And also mobility. I just read this. Um, uh, I was just about to say, I read the study,
did not read a study. I saw a video. Uh, but it was, um, that there was a, a, an inverse
correlation between mortality rate and leg strength. They did this study of people that were over 80,
and all they had them do was do heavy lifting on their legs.
Now, heavy lifting for the person, right?
Like, this scrawny 80-year-old is not going to be fucking yoking up 400 pounds in squats.
But they did three days a week heavy lifting training on their legs,
and that all the people in the study not only did they increase mobility start walking
most stopped being assisted with walking but their longevity increased and it's like it's so
interesting that you can target these very specific things and i mean so heather and i we weight lift
now all the time we do three days a week uh like heavy lifting and it's i've felt better than i've
felt almost my entire life
just because it feels like, oh, yeah, like I didn't pick that thing up.
I don't have to worry about it.
And as you get older, as we all get older,
strength and mobility are two fucking big keys.
You know what's funny is, you know, Peter Tia has, you know,
a ton of doctors, a ton of analysts that pore over all the scientific literature.
And when you listen to his podcast,
the number one thing that you need to do for longevity is maintain muscle mass over time. Yeah. It is like, it is like the biggest indicator,
but it means you're working out and things like that as well. Right. So you're getting
downstream effects of that, but it is all about muscle mass over time. And so that's, that's huge.
But anyway, I wanted to say this and don't just, man. And don't just go to the website.
Go to my site.
Not because, again, I'm not going to pay for this at all.
I have to say it a thousand times over.
No, I keep saying it, Kevin, because I know people on the internet.
Because I just hate, like, people are always like, you just can't pay.
Listen, the SEC can come after me and get my ass because it's illegal.
It's not fair to say when you're getting paid for shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is true.
I'm truly not getting paid for it.
But I want people to try it and then just get your fucking money back if you don't like it yeah like that's but it is it
doesn't work for you well but the thing that's really interesting about these the glp1 and the
and the um what's the other one that triglyceride or the semi-glutide or whatever but they basically
they're now being approved by the fda for other things like heart disease.
Yes.
Like decreased cancer risk.
But also there are things that they're starting to say
like they might be something that they start doing
for alcohol abuse.
Yes.
Because it lowers...
I've noticed that cravings go down, dude.
Yeah, it lowers your craving for alcohol.
Yeah, so this is the same thing with probiotics.
As I've been taking it,
my cravings have gone down for alcohol.
Oh, so you've started the probiotics and you know you've got it right upstairs
yeah that's well i mean i'm probably like you don't really notice start feeling it till about
six weeks in yeah i get that so it's not like a hammer it's like slowly changing your microbiome
well because like that ozempic and the others they're they're actually a synthetic glp-1 right
so they're basically giving it into your body.
So this is stimulating your body to create more GLP-1s.
At the microbiome level.
At the microbiome level.
Yeah, exactly.
Dude, I'm going to tell my fucking buddy.
Yeah, we'll get you some soon.
I won't say his name because he's going to be watching.
And people are using it when they come off of GLP-1s too
because they actually use it to,
the doctors prescribe it for that.
Anyway, let's move on
to the next story.
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
So we are fans
of AI news here
and this blew my mind.
Poison beer.
Introducing.
Sorry.
First off.
I just took a drink
of a little poison beer
to watch the audio.
I'm not relating AI
to poison beer.
Yeah.
But first off, I i mean i don't
hope that's poison but but if it was mild if it was mild poison i started like yeah yeah i'd be
like i mean you did just say yeet poison beer and drank it and now you're sick for two days it's
like kind of your problem funny kind of funny kind of funny. I approve. I approve of this message.
Okay.
Introducing computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku.
So Anthropic, who are the people behind Claude.
I fucking love Anthropic, dude.
I'm sorry. Now, I mean, look, Claude was already the,
like, considered,
or, well, tested,
the, like, outperformer in coding.
But not only that,
they have now done something
that nobody else has done,
but also really freaking cool,
but kind of scary,
and they...
It's not scary.
No, I mean, kind of scary,
but they also gave you like these
guidelines so they have announced not only so they should have said it was i don't know why
they did this but it's claude 3.5 sonnet the newer version like why they didn't they need some
they need naming help man i know i'm a claw claw claw yeah you know it's like i don't want to be like he's like
i don't want to like if i have an assistant around the house i don't like hey claude you know it's
like yeah alexa like whoa you're happy when you say alexa what's the weather in kentucky
claude claude claude sonnet 3.5 could you please tell me what I need to go to the bathroom?
But one of the things that Anthropic did is they announced computer use.
I know.
Which is bonkers.
Essentially it allows AI to actively do things on your computer.
Now, AI for coding has been happening,
so a lot of the code programs that are coming out,
sure, AI coded them.
And maybe even they have AI backends, right?
Like API calls to ChatGPT where you enter in some information
and then it goes to ChatGPT under the hood.
And so, yes, you may be interacting with AI
and not knowing it or knowing it fully well.
But what this is doing
is it's taking that step
of needing to enter information in.
I mean, and the example
that they show...
The handicap people are stoked.
No, that's not even funny
because it gives you
so much more control.
Come on.
I mean, you're right.
You're not wrong.
You're right.
And it is not funny.
It's just a little out of left field for me.
No, but I was sitting here thinking,
because you were saying it gives you control,
and I was thinking about just being able to tell AI.
100%.
If you don't have use and mobility to use Photoshop,
now you actually have...
I didn't mean to be a left fielder.
And I didn't mean to laugh so hard.
It just took me by surprise, Devin.
I'm sorry.
It just took me by surprise.
Good intention, and I agree.
The intention was not to be a joke for the handshake.
I know.
I know that.
I'm being dead serious.
Anyway, you're correct. You're correct. But back to what it actually does. The example that they
showed, which was fucking mind-blowing, was they were like, hey, I want to fill out this form with
this information that's in disparate places on your computer, right? Before, with AI, you would
have to go and collect that data and then give it to the AI, and the AI would then generate some stuff and you'd have to maybe plug it
into the place you're supposed to plug it in. With this, it actually showed Claude opening
up a web browser.
That's what I'm talking about.
Navigating to the website, scanning the website. This is the thing that's the craziest
thing is that what it does is it doesn't talk to the code like, you know, you can have a computer program and sort of like see the
code of the website. It's not doing that. It's actually taking a screen capture of the website
and then sending it to itself, Claude, and then analyzing the image. And then from the image,
discerning what information you need to input and where on the screen it needs input.
Now, it's interesting because the way it works is it's actually using coordinates.
So it's saying, okay, at this pixel, by this pixel, that's where I have to click in order to do the thing.
I think that's just the
first generation i think that that is going to go away yes but it was freaking amazing to watch
this ai alt tab into new things scan the screen understand what's going on and the crazy thing is
i so so weirdly just two days ago, we're doing Christmas card things.
And Heather was like, hey, well, whatever.
Heather goes, I have a list of addresses, but she got it on a scan thing.
So it was an image of a list of addresses.
Dude, when I was, like, five years ago, somebody handed handed me a list like a printed out piece of paper
with addresses that's a fucking day man yeah that's oh god how am i gonna do this am i gonna
fucking type them all out which is probably the fastest slow ass way to do it yes i'm gonna scan
it i'm gonna try to find an ocr that does not fucking work Or God forbid there's like a scratch on one of the C's
and now the whole thing blows up.
Yeah.
I literally scanned it, sent it to ChatGPT,
and I said, hey, I have a list.
You could have just taken a picture with your phone
on ChatGPT's app and sent it to me.
I mean, I have a scanner, so I'm just like,
when do I use my scanner?
So I was like, let's use the scanner.
You faxed it to yourself.
I faxed it to myself.
I put it in a pneumatic tube and I sent it up.
You're so new school, but you're kind of old school. You're like, oh yeah, I fax it to myself. I put it in a pneumatic tube and I sent it up. You're so new to school, but you're
kind of old school. You're like,
oh yeah, I scanned it line by line.
I mean, now that you say that, I'm like,
why did I not just take a picture of it
instead of, because by the way, by the way, here's
the worst part. I first saved
this PDF and ChatGPG was like, unknown
error, unknown error. And I was like, what's wrong?
And they were like, we can do PDS. And I was
like, I feel like you can't. And it was like, no, we can't. And I kept, unknown error, unknown error. And I was like, what's wrong? And they were like, we can do PDS. And I was like, I feel like you can't. And they were like, no, we can't.
And I kept, unknown error, unknown error.
And I was like, god damn it. So then I changed it to a
JPEG, which, by the way, I had to go to some website,
convert it to a JPEG, all of this shit.
You can do it in macOS, but right-click on it. I don't have macOS.
First of all, you should have...
But I'm just saying, all of this
is to mean I did more work than just
take a picture or chat to you. I mean, I'm already
having conversations. Why are you chatting to people when you're in Claude? Claude
does handle a PDF no problem. Oh, I
texted Claude. I had a whole
conversation with Claude. Claude wouldn't handle your... Claude
said I do not take PDFs. Claude
takes PDFs. No, well, now it does. I
just read this shit. But yesterday, two
days ago, I went to Claude and it was like,
no, thank you. We don't do that. No, it did.
I'm just saying, I asked
him or her or they themselves.
You didn't pay for Claude?
You're probably buying the cheap Claude.
I don't have Claude.
Oh, see?
But ChatGPT didn't need me to pay for it.
I mean, I did end up paying for it because I tried it too many times and said no.
How many do you pay for?
Just out of curiosity.
What do you pay for on the AI side?
Literally before two days ago, nothing.
What?
I had MidJour journey for a while and
i was like oh this is fun like images and then i was like 30 bucks a month and i'm not really
doing this so i stopped but i also this is the thing this is like i haven't yet discovered
this like big need for me personally oh i will say i will say so yada yada yada stuff stuff stuff i had to get a new bio
bio what bio a biography of myself a bio i didn't sound like you were getting a change or something
what's like what the fucking dog i needed to have my dick chopped off and i didn't know who to talk
no but i didn't know like no who says I had to get a new bio?
People that need bios. You need
a bio. I had to update my
bio. I had to update my bio. Okay, thank you.
So I had to update my bio. Okay.
And bios are so fucking annoying,
right? Like, they're just one of those things and
the way that I update my bio is so
archaic. Where are you updating your
bio? Where am I updating my bio?
LinkedIn? No, I updating my bio? LinkedIn?
No, I had... There was a friend of mine
who's doing a thing, and I'm involved, and he was like,
I need a bio, and I was like, great, whatever.
But usually when I update my
bio, I go dig back into my computer
for the last time I used a fucking
bio, which was five, ten years ago,
and I pull it up, and I just
kind of like update it,
update it with, like it what's new in
Alex's town you know what I mean
and it's all garbage
and the funny thing is
I'm an eloquent guy
I'm a horrible writer
so I went you know what
I had this experience I went to a cocktail party
event and I met this guy
who's from tech
he's like 58 and he was like when i was 50 i um
my daughter told me hey dad i think you're dyslexic and he was like what the fuck i'm not
dyslexic i'm 50 he then did a test and realized i actually am dyslexic me with adhd i didn't find
out till like a year ago 100 dude why didn't you tell me sooner i didn't know out until like a year ago. A hundred percent, dude. Why didn't you tell me sooner? I didn't. No. When I told everybody, they were like, we knew.
We all knew.
And I'm like, why didn't you tell me?
Evan, we all knew.
Why didn't you tell me?
Why would I tell you that?
Because I knew.
Kevin, I think you have ADHD.
I was like, no.
Why didn't you tell us?
Friends tell people that because now I feel so much better.
I've got my Concerta, which is like a little tiny micro pill I take in the morning.
I feel great.
Get so much shit done.
Yes.
Yeah, but why didn't you tell me?
I didn't know.
By the way, I might be dyslexic.
I haven't checked.
Are you serious?
I haven't checked, but everything this guy said, I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't enjoy reading.
Reading to me is work.
Like, I don't enjoy it.
I hate to tell you.
But I do read.
I want to tell you now.
I've assumed reading.
You're dyslexic.
Fuck off.
Are you serious?
I might be.
I kind of think you are.
I know.
Probably.
Anyway, long story short.
Okay.
He was like, I will tell you the three things that changed my life.
One of them I forgot, but he was great.
But the two that he said that I remember.
You might be hating it.
I know, I know.
I was like, what are you talking about?
Did you see this bird over there?
Jesus Christ.
I've never seen a bird so beautiful.
Anyway, three things.
Three things.
One was ChatGPT.
He was like, I have a hard time. And I totally related to this. He was like, I have a hard time getting what's in my brain onto a computer for whatever. And he said emails. He was like, what I do is I know what I want to say in an email. I just don't, I'm not very good at writing the email. Yes. Because it's, and I was like, dude, my brain is so much faster than my hands.
And by the time I'm done with the sentence,
I've thought of five more sentences and they're gone.
They'll never come back.
Oh, a hundred percent.
So, and I've even tried recording myself,
but the moment I hit record,
it's like fucking Schrodinger's cat
or the fucking slit thing where like the moment
I'm hitting record and I know subconsciously
it's being recorded
i'm an idiot i'm like yeah we could go and choose it god what the fuck oh you can't say it i can't
say it out loud i can think about it by the way that's why the showers are by the way i one thing
i found is i if i record with chat gpt and i just ramble oh then it makes sense of all that shit i
love it i'm gonna start doing that yeah so here's the thing. He said, chat GBT. I, he was like, when somebody emails me and I have to do a response,
he was like, I put the email into chat GBT. I go to chat GBT and I say, here are the things that I
want to say. And I just kind of do my thing of the thing. And then he says, spits it out. I get it
back. I edit it, send it amazing. And I was like, that's fucking great. And he said, third thing.
Can I expand on that for just one second? So that one point I think is so important. Cause like,
I'm in the same boat, like the ADHD brain. I know what I want to say, but like, sometimes I'm just
like, okay, I'm either going to spend 30 minutes trying to craft this perfectly. And so it's funny.
I had it. So I'm doing this dinner tomorrow night. I told you about this, like this mindfulness,
like my, my Zen teacher and all that stuff. And I wanted to say in the email, I was
like, I want to say this isn't about pitching anything. This isn't about like, there's no
agenda. And I'm like, how do I say this isn't about pitching a new agenda for dinner? And dude,
this is fucking what it wrote back. Listen to this. Yeah. It goes, um, we've deliberately created a
space free from professional agendas.
No fundraising, pitches, or formal presentations.
Rather, this evening celebrates the profound impact
each of you has had,
has made in your respective spheres of influence.
Fuck yeah, dude.
I mean, I'm like a fucking...
You're like a fucking poet over here.
I'm just Stanford and shit.
Yeah.
It's like, it's amazing.
But like, it was like,
because these are all really amazing people that we're gathering, and I'm like, each of these people have had a big impact on the world. Yeah. It's like, it's amazing. But like, it was like, because these are all really amazing people
that were gathering
and I'm like,
each of these people
have had a big impact
on the world.
Yes.
How do I celebrate that?
But you just like,
type out like three things
and it's like,
and you're done.
And by the way,
if you don't like
how it's worded,
refresh.
No, no, no, no.
Not even refresh.
What I do is like,
if it comes back
and I'm like,
I would never say it like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm like,
a little too stuffy,
say it again.
Like you can literally say shit like that
or a little less professional
and then it'll just come back a little lighter, you know?
So I had to update my bio,
aka have some sort of sex change operation.
Yes.
I literally went to ChatGPT,
here's what I've been doing.
This is what I've, like, here's how I started,
here's how I, you know, weeks ago.
And I basically said, okay, ChatGPT, you are a...
Professional bio writer.
You are a PR person at a known internet entertainment startup
that's, you know, known throughout the world.
One of the executives needs a new bio
for a newspaper article that's being written.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I gave it all the like...
Get a little juice, yeah.
I was like, get ready.
I was like, put on a hat.
Get sassy, yeah.
Get sassy.
You've got, your blouse is a little low,
but it's okay.
And what kind of girl are you doing?
I don't know.
I went left, I went left.
Anyway, so long story short.
You were right.
Long story short.
I put all this stuff in.
Ten seconds later, spits out the best bio I've ever had in my life. Yeah, fuck yeah, dude.
And I literally just sat there.
I read it.
And I was like, Jesus fucking Christ, you're Jason Bourne.
Yeah.
And I called Heather.
I go, hey, Heather.
This is my bio.
I go, come in here.
I'm taking it on my bio.
Read this.
And she read it.
And she goes like this.
She's reading it. She has no idea. She's like, yeah, I wrote it. She's like, is this good? I wrote it. Yeah, well, come in here. I'm taking it on my bio. Read this. And she read it. And she goes like this. She's reading it.
She has no idea AI wrote it.
Yeah.
She's like, is this good?
I wrote it.
Yeah.
I was like, read this.
And she reads it.
She reads it.
She reads it.
And she goes, Jesus, that's fucking great.
And I go, ChatGPT did that.
She was like, I never admit to that.
Nobody hates my wife.
She knows.
You could have been a plus 10 IQ at that point.
No, she knows.
But you can use it for fights and stuff.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're like, let me just.
I'll be right back.
Yeah, I need this.
Kick the door down.
Chat, GPG, help.
My wife is just, she's mad.
I think maybe I didn't do the dishes.
I don't know.
Did I do the dishes?
Listen, I'm stealing some shit.
Oh, my God.
Well, I'm about to get to that.
So that's my next story.
OK.
All right.
Anyway, long story short, computer use, crazy.
The thing that I'm going to say, the last little, and then we'll move yeah is we're not moving that far we're not moving that
far but is um the idea that because of the coding right because it's so good at coding
and because it only needs certain certain inputs from a, that there's a world in which we're going to get to a point where there is no user interface for software.
Yes, yes.
It is immediately created at the moment the AI needs information from a human.
And then there's a word for it.
I don't know what it's called.
It's like immediate user interface or whatever.
Yeah. But I like that to me blows my mind that you can start a program by saying like, hey, I've got to pay my property tax.
I can't really remember what it is.
I hear, you know, here's my American Express info.
You know, can you just do it?
And then it will go, sure, I'm on my way.
And it'll do some stuff and it'll come back and literally a dialogue box that'll open up that'll be like, hey, you know.
Task complete.
Or we need this information from you
and you type it in and then hit submit.
But all that won't even be, you know what I mean?
It's crazy, dude.
Yeah, exactly.
So I had, not to say this is a press ant or anything,
but like I had a tweet in 2023
that I penned at the top of my profile
because I think it's really relevant right now,
where I said, I'm convinced the next decade is transitioning
from software eating the world, which Marc Andreessen said,
which was absolutely right for the last 15 years,
to AI eating the software.
And what I meant by that is that AI is going to be
so fundamentally baked in at the OS level,
at the bare metal level, in at the OS level, at the bare metal level,
meaning like at the hardware level,
that it is going to understand
everything that is going on inside of its environment.
So what I mean by that is like,
we used to think of apps as like needing to tack on AI.
So like in Photoshop, you'd say,
and to some extent this will be true,
but in Photoshop you'd say,
hey, it's so cool if my arm is a little bit crooked.
I can highlight now and I click the AI button and it'll straighten it out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But in the future, what's going to happen is the AI at the OS level is going to understand how to use every application way better than you ever would.
Yeah.
So you will just explain to the OS what you want done.
Yeah. Here's a picture.
And it will do it for you.
My art looks weird. Could you move it 10 degrees to the left?
And then it's like, okay, I'm going to call the Photoshop API,
whatever it may need to do said task,
and then come back to you with the thing.
So we're saying the same thing, right?
Like it's going to be at that core level.
Yeah.
So it's super exciting.
It's a really exciting time for,
I mean, I was just telling Mal before we got started,
I was like,
he's like, how you doing?
And I was like,
kind of sitting down in the corner
and I was like,
dude, my brain has never been more
kind of like,
what the fuck is going on?
Yeah.
Because you have to rethink everything
from first principles.
Like everything we've known to be true
is now turned on its head.
Yeah. Like every single core technology we think we know works a certain way can now be re-imagined.
And like, this is a once in a generation moment. I thought I had that in 95 when I saw the internet
come online. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like no doubt that was one of those moments. Yeah, we did. But this
is like mobile was a thing, but this is a thing, dude.
This is crazy.
Two in our lifetime.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
So anyway, next one, I'm going to tell you I got a $400 refund using AI.
What?
Yeah.
So here's the deal.
I signed up for, so I had this supplement that I was taking.
It was 400 bucks every three months, which is freaking expensive.
Sure.
It was a mitochondria enhancer, your thermal, like shit. It was anyway. it was like one of these things where i signed up for it i turned on that like
accidentally clicked that auto renew yep i know and they sent me three more packages of it and i
was like oh fuck like 400 bucks i don't want to spend four bucks and so i emailed their support
i'm like hey i you know i just got this package i haven't opened anything can i send it back and
they're like all sales are final we're sorry blah blah blah I'm like ah and I'm like okay how am I gonna get that and they're like
refer to our like like sales page and I'd like click that it's like all sales are final I'm
like okay so so you could ask AI right yeah but I didn't do that okay so what I do you're like
screw you no no no hear me out so this new shit. So if there is ever a situation where you know
there is a domain expert that is smarter than you in a particular topic, I'm going to give you a
crazy hack. So there is a fantastic book out there. I highly recommend everyone listen to the
Audible book of or read it. It's called Crucial Conversations. And what it is, it's over a million
copies sold. It's like how to have these very sensitive conversations that can get you what you want,
but include the person in a way that makes them feel like it was almost like their decision
in a way.
Love it.
I love that.
And so it's almost like, do you know Chris Voss?
He was like the FBI head negotiator for like terrorist shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He wrote a couple of great books, like Never Split the Difference.
He wrote that book.
Fantastic. negotiator for like terrorist yeah yeah yeah you wrote a couple great books like never split the difference you wrote that book uh fantastic so what you can do is you can go in and create your own custom gpt okay so you go into custom gps yep yep yep and then if you google i'm not saying do
only if you own the book if you google um uh crucial conversations pdf please people like
only if you're on the book or any other book you want yeah and you get the pdf you
drop it in there it learns it now it's not quoting from it but it's learning the techniques so
i copy and paste the whole thread in there of the the chat conversation i had about my four
dollar supplement not being returned yeah i said hey crucial conversations how would you respond
to this this email oh my god dude it wrote me like a three paragraph thing
that was like, first, you must make it a safe space
for them to understand blah.
Then you must not push back too much
and say that you are sorry for these reasons.
And then you must do this.
And dude, it wrote back this thing that was like,
hey, like I understand this is like a horrible,
it's against your policy.
And I totally get that.
But I, you know, there was an accident that was made here and I accidentally clicked this thing
and if you would just make this one time
exception, but it did way more than this, right?
Literally the reason, you just
showed them the reason why you had to
do it. Exactly, exactly. Because they'd be like
fuck off.
But it gave me a beautiful response. I sent it
and fucking forward on back. Are you serious?
Dude, it worked perfectly. So crucial conversation and then you save it Exactly. But it gave me a beautiful response. I sent it in fucking four hours back. Are you serious? Yeah, dude.
It worked perfectly.
So crucial conversation.
And then you save it as your GPT.
Okay, so this is the thing that I want to talk to you about.
So I had a buddy who tried to get a raise.
And he used the same shit.
And it worked.
Fuck.
No, you posted it.
And you're like, I've been overlooked for a raise.
This is my issue.
I believe I haven't deserved this.
I had these key milestones that I hit.
Go.
And then it's like, address this, address this,
phrase it like this,
and he pasted to his boss
and got a fucking raise.
Fuck.
It's amazing.
So this is interesting
because one of the things
that I've known
is that you can make
your own sort of
customized LLMs,
you know what I mean?
I have absolutely no idea
where to start
in that context.
Chat to your team
and you click custom.
No, but this is what I'm saying.
Like, that's crazy.
And you can just give it information, like like you just give it so notebook is like that
too right yeah yeah yeah so you just drop in a bunch of stuff ask questions but yeah i just
create custom books so i dropped into all of warren buffett's like favorite books that i all bought
so i put all the pdfs in there and then i can ask it i can be like hey bonds are up right now but
tensions are high because of an election cycle, blah, blah.
Yeah.
Like, what do you want to do here?
And it's like, based on what you said,
and then it pulls from like 10 different books.
It gives me guidance.
So great.
And it's like, it's really freaking cool, dude.
That's so cool.
I'm going to start doing it.
It's a super dense version.
I did a similar thing.
Custom GPT.
I put in my journal entries that I dictate.
Your journal entries.
And I have like five authors and I say,
what would each of these authors have to say about what I've said today?
Oh, shit.
Wow.
And they all have different takes.
Some of them challenge my worldview.
That's fucking crazy.
What Mal said is really important because you can go out and say,
hey, Martha Beck has a great new book out.
I want to upload the PDF.
And this is my journal entry of like something that's personal to me.
How can I apply it against their framework and get responses back?
Oh, it's so cool, dude.
It's so cool.
But so many people don't know about this.
It's like, how would you know?
I didn't know.
And I'm knowledgeable-ish in the space.
You know what I mean?
I posted a blog post about it on KevinRose.com.
I mean, maybe I should sit down.
All right. Let's move on from AI because we've done a lot of AI. All right. I mean, it's a little AI-y, but not really. Tesla has been testing robo-taxi service in the Bay Area for most of the
year. So first off, it's been a while since we've been here. Secondly, I think my laptop is about to
run out of batteries. I got 18%. Oh, you're fine.
Okay.
I don't know how laptops work.
Anyway.
I have a portable charger upstairs, Mal, next to my...
Oh, I love it.
It's USB-C.
Look at you.
We're fine, though.
You got 18%.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know.
I'm just like, if this shuts off, I'm going to be like, I don't know anything about anything.
Yeah.
I have a power bank upstairs that's a portable charger.
It's literally sitting upstairs.
But anyway.
Anyway.
So. Shout out to Anker. Anyway. Anyway, so.
Shout out to Anchor.
Anchor makes good shit.
Yeah, Anchor does make good shit. They make really good shit.
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This is the perfect time for me to plug in.
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Thank you.
I would love Anchor.
Anchor, you make great little power bricks.
Thank you, man.
And I love their little portable power bricks.
I need a little splash, too.
A little splash.
Oh, do you want a little?
No, I got some here.
I don't want to mix.
Okay, let's keep going.
All right, so.
We're going to cut that?
Yeah.
And we're going to cut that.
Okay, here we go.
So, first off, two weeks ago now, maybe three weeks ago now.
It's been a beat.
Tesla.
Yeah, Tesla announced.
They had their big, I think it was like October 5th or something like that,
or October 8th, oh, 10th.
Whatever.
Don't know why me knowing that date means anything.
Doesn't matter.
Yeah.
They announced their robo-taxi.
Now, last week, last month, we talked about Waymo.
Waymo, yeah.
Because I had been using Waymo, and I was like,
oh, my God, this is fucking crazy.
I can't believe it.
And they were like, oh, yeah, well, I can't wait to see what Tesla announces.
So they announced their Robotaxi, which some people are sort of hating on the design.
I actually liked the design.
You showed me the design again.
I thought that looked really cool.
I thought it looked pretty dope.
It's like a mini Cybertruck, but less sort of Cybertruck-y, if that makes sense.
Yeah.
Tesla, Ebo, Robo, Taxi.
So, yeah, that's what it looks like.
I mean, it looks pretty sweet.
Yeah.
I would actually want to own one of those in a weird way.
Yeah.
So here's the thing.
I think it's super slick.
Yeah.
I think it looks better than the Cybertruck.
Yeah.
Because it looks more like a reasonable car even like compare them like this because it's it's the it's very cyber trucky
No, it's not it is because if you think about it like the angle is the same
The trunk is basically the same the bar on the back is the same like it is a car
It's a cyber car. But the thing that's interesting is it's not as angular
It's not as it's got not thing that's interesting is it's not as angular. It's not got the sharp edges.
And it's also not the stainless steel or whatever it is.
So it is a car.
It's just taking from the design elements of the Cybertruck.
Does it seat four?
Which I appreciate.
That's one of the biggest problems that people are talking about.
It's a two-seater.
That's so weird.
But the craziest part about it is it has no pedals or steering
wheel right right it's the first car that's ever been manufactured the way when when you it's not
like you can get in the seat and drive you can't but they also don't manufacture a car right that
is a jaguar uh eye pace right you know what i mean but it's great but like the fact that they
are basically like you're going to be able to buy this car that has literally no steering wheel.
Oh, and rent it out.
Well, you're going to be able to rent it out.
But also you could just have it drive you places.
Have you ever driven in full self-driving mode on a Tesla?
It's scary as shit.
It is scary as shit.
Way more is way better.
Way safer.
Here's the thing.
Here's the problem.
There was a, and we might have talked about this on the show before,
but one of my issues was
I've had three Teslas
and I've loved them all.
And the...
Have you?
I have.
I've loved them all.
Literally loved them all.
You had the X?
No.
The doors get all fucked up all the time.
I know.
Well, which is again
why they were like,
why don't you just make regular doors?
Because these are like
gullwing doors.
I kind of like the gullwings.
Gullwings are way cooler.
Yeah, gullwings are,
I mean, it looks cool.
Could you grab some more
champers by chance?
It's probably upstairs.
Sorry, dude.
I like champagne.
Dude, I'm in.
I'm in.
I didn't get all fancy.
I just like,
I don't love the expensive shit.
I'm not saying,
champagne is bad.
Champagne is good.
Dude, I'm a red wine guy.
You're a champagne guy.
We're older now.
We have.
We've changed, yeah. And it's better for you, I think. I think guy. You're a champagne guy. We're older now. We have. We've changed, yeah.
And it's better for you, I think.
I think so.
I don't know why.
No, my liver ends under supply.
Isn't it weird that once Mal leaves, I'm like, oh, are we still doing a show?
I guess.
You can say to everyone, fuck you, Mal.
Stop that.
Don't do that.
Cut it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I love that.
Fuck you, Mal.
Okay, cut that out.
Cut that out, Mal.
So fucking great.
We'll take it later.
Okay.
All right, here we go. It's just like the parents left the room. Okay, cut that out. Cut that out, Mal. So fucking great. We'll talk about it later. Okay. All right, here we go.
It's just like the parents left the room.
It literally feels like that.
We're doing what we want right now.
How is that?
Mal's not even...
Oh, my God.
Anyway, so long story long,
Tesla came out with their robo-taxi service,
or, well, their robo-taxis.
Yeah.
I love the style of the robo-taxis.
I do, too.
I'm super excited about autonomous driving
two is fine get two if you need to i don't know i feel like i feel like they really missed the
mark because like three to four people is is when you i mean it's great for me they did the math
i think i mean i guess they did most rides are with two people one or two people right
maybe that's what they did was they went, wait a minute, why do we care?
Right.
Because it's not three.
And if you think about it, like me and my wife.
Cheaper make.
Cheaper make, for sure.
And it has enough.
Easier to clean.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I forgot about the cleaning stuff.
Oh, they did show like, A, wireless charging.
So the car pulls over to charging stations.
I thought you meant like you could plug your phone in.
I'm like, eh, I'm dissolved.
I mean, that's very dissolved.
Yeah, that's been dissolved by GE or whatever it is.
Oh, that's cool.
It's wireless charging.
No way.
It will go and charge itself.
And rather than having a human have to put the thing in,
or like they did that thing, remember back in the day
where they had that like robo arm they were testing?
Yeah, the like swap out the batteries?
Well, no, I love that idea.
But the robot arm, it was like, and i would like look and was like beep beep beep beep try to plug
it in oh yeah they were like fuck that so there's no charging port on this car wow literally no i
didn't know i didn't pay close enough attention i saw the bus and shit yeah the the robot van. Oh, thank you, sir. Look at this. Hello, sir. Welcome.
$20 shampers.
Yeah.
Ish.
Yeah.
A beer cart is great.
Yeah, so.
All right.
Dude, cheers.
So fun.
Happy donation number five.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, so the thing that people came away from it going, okay, well, first off, they shot it on like the Sony backlot or one of the backlots.
I think it was Sony.
But essentially, it was like only Tesla cars driving, but they had some other Model 3s and Model Ys on full self-driving.
And I totally agree with you. little thing about having three teslas my model s and maybe my model three um they all had the
lidars they took all those sensors off because they were like we could do this with ai and and
and just the cameras i know and i went oh you need like why would you take it away on there
but then when i saw the waymo thing i was was like, dude, that thing looks like fucking ET.
That's got more sensors than I needed to have, which is good.
I wanted to have more sensors.
But also, it just feels like when, and don't get me wrong, I know that technology is improving every month.
100%.
But, like, when you ride in a Waymo, I can't describe it.
It's less jerky because it has more confidence.
Oh, dude. It does stuff jerky because it has more confidence.
Oh, dude.
It does stuff where I'm like, yeah, bro.
Yeah, like I would have definitely asked you. When it pulls out around the cars.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, no, I know I'm an inch and a half from that car.
And I was like, but you're a fucking inch and a half.
I know.
I would never turn.
I would always back up if I was an inch and a half, but it knows.
But I like that because with a Tesla, it's like,
you're like, oh, shit, I'm going to hit something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they'll get there. Anyway, it's like, you're like, oh, shit, I'm going to hit something.
But they'll get there.
Anyway, Tesla's stock went crazy today.
So here's the thing.
Yeah.
So here's the thing.
Essentially, as far as the stock goes, what happened was when this was announced on the 10th, I think it was the 10th.
I hope it was the 10th because otherwise I'm wrong.
But I'm also wrong all the time anyway when this was announced it kind of didn't make the impact that i think tesla wanted right on wall street for whatever that means it doesn't really
mean anything it just means stock value whatever and it's all it's all made up anyway but the stock
went down like 10 like. And then this week,
aka last week,
because I think it's coming out
Monday or Tuesday or whatever,
Tesla announced its Q3 earnings
and they were like 17.
I have the date on that, by the way,
if you want to know.
Yeah, what is that?
So Tesla shares soared 22%.
Today.
Their biggest one-day gain
since May of 2013.
Whoa.
So, vehicle sales, the most recent quarter, vehicle sales exceeded $20 billion,
which is interesting because everybody thought, like,
there was this idea that full electric was kind of going away to more hybrid
because people wanted range.
No, but I honestly think that was just the gas company buying publicity.
I don't think that was actually ever true.
Yeah, it depends on the use case.
But yeah, I agree.
I agree.
I mean, I'm the perfect example of somebody that when I bought my S,
and I know I've said this before,
when I bought my S, I was like,
I don't want a fucking electric car because I don't give a shit.
I want a car that's great.
And my number one thing was I hate car technology.
Car technology is always a decade plus behind fucking technology.
Oh, it's the worst.
My phone, my watch, all of this is way sexier than my fucking BMW, than my fucking Range Rover, than any of the cars, than my fucking whatever.
You know what I mean?
And my friend was like like you should get a Tesla
and I was like
I don't want an electric car
and he was like
well don't think about
the electric part
think about the tech part
and then I drove my first S
and I was like
the software updates are amazing
so great
so great
yeah my wife has had her
Model 3 for like
three years now
or something like that
and it's still a freaking
great car
because it keeps updating
itself with new shit
I love it
I am a Tesla fan.
What did you think of the bus though?
The RoboVan?
Yeah, the RoboVan.
I mean,
there's a part of me that goes
when I need it,
that's going to be fucking awesome.
I mean like a Napa Valley
RoboVan bus would be like,
bro!
A RoboVan bus in Napa Valley?
Because I will tell you,
all of the places, Napa napa sonoma it was like get
hammered and get in dude i would love it it wouldn't be trying to sell me like oh my buddy
said you could go to this vineyard for 20 bucks less it'd be great and it's like dude just fucking
drive us to the place we have scheduled yeah it's it's amazing but yeah so uh anyway so i guess the big thing
that people came out of it were going do they are you know are they going to get a license to do
do autonomous driving yeah because that's a big that's a big hurdle i don't know about
tronimus but maybe autonomous i mean tronimus is where you got mostly trucks tron it's like
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but neutron is going to be great, by the way.
The new Tron?
I mean, all the Trons are great.
Is there a new trailer?
There's another?
A new trailer?
No, I haven't seen it yet, but I just wonder if it came out yet.
Oh, my God.
Okay, we're getting towards the end.
Anyway, long story short, they've been testing autonomous driving in the Bay Area for the last year or most of the last year,
which leads me to believe that they're closer to being able to actually do this than they think and the and elon did say like the
new vehicles are going to have this major gpu upgrade which is like more computational power
to figure out shit in real time i i listen like they don't have dumb engineers working on this
shit like dude and you know figure it out you know as as with
anything in ai as we've talked about all these crazy advances like shit's only gonna get better
you know what i mean yeah so anyway uh so next story the new aura 4 ring is out oh here it is
oh i've actually never worn an aura ring i have have big fingers. So that is the new ring
you'll notice that there's no kind of like sensors on the inside like they've used to have these little divots inside that that kind of
Made you it felt funky to put it on. Yeah, so I will say that the aura
the aura ring is
In the this is how you know, i i like want to speak the truth i i put a tiny little check into aura a long time ago in terms of investment but um i didn't i honestly i didn't
wear my aura ring for the last like year yeah i just thought the software was just kind of meh
i knew the sleep data was good but like i didn't want to like have too many wearables on i don't
like anything when i sleep but like the new app is kind of dope
oh that's cool my readiness is 64 i didn't sleep that much last night your readiness is 64 what's
ready to like for an attack you're like yeah exactly my resting heart rate went a little bit
up last night i didn't sleep because i'm jet lagged still but anyway it shows you like your
heart rate variability how well you slept how many many hours. I slept six hours and 31 minutes.
That's not bad.
I mean, it is because of my freaking latency was 59 minutes.
What is latency?
It's like how quickly it takes you to, how long it takes you to fall asleep.
What was your latency?
59 minutes.
But I was like on my phone and shit.
I was like doing shit.
Dude, that's the worst.
Get your phone out of your bed.
Get your phone out of your bed.
I know, but get your phone out of your bed.
I agree.
I agree.
I try to do that with Heather.
Are you wearing my ring? I am. Your heart rate's 103 right now. Yeah, I but get your phone out of your bed, man. I agree, I agree, I agree. I tried to do that with Heather. Wait, are you wearing my ring?
I am.
Your heart rate's 103 right now.
Yeah, I'm partying, baby.
Take that off.
What are you, what are you,
am I gonna blow your,
your resting heart rate curve?
Are you wearing my ring?
Get that off of there.
But anyway, it's, um.
Wait, what's your heart?
What's your heart rate now?
I'll tell you in a second.
The form factor is, um,
is way better.
Like, it's gotten better.
It's kind of shiny metallic now.
Um, you know, what do you think the future of wearables is?
Like, honestly.
Like, is it Apple Watch?
Is it, like, do you care?
Do you want less shit on you?
I mean, so here's the thing.
I think for me, are you checking to see how interesting it was, you fucker?
I was just checking.
We're totally fine.
Everything's fine.
I'm resting.
You're resting.
We're just doing a fine. Everything's fine. I'm resting. You're resting. We're just doing a show.
Everything's cool.
Look, I don't like to have...
See, 103, just like me.
No, it's measuring right now.
Okay, hold on.
Let's see.
I bet you my heart rate's 94 right now.
But you're excited.
Well, I'm not excited.
Oh, shit.
Oh!
What?
Now you're clapping.
It's going up.
How lazy.
By the way, it was 132. No, it's not. Look at it right now. Oh, yeah. You up how lazy by the way it was 132 no it's not look at
it right now oh yeah you're chilling zen where is it now zen 106 hold on mine was still hold on
mine was 103 do some zen practices i want to do zen practices let's watch all right here we go
here's zen hold on he's gonna meditate 124 don't it's still 124 shut up it says right now 124. It's still 124. Shut up.
It says right now, 124.
I'm meditating.
You keep meditating.
It's still 124.
Give me a second.
Do you want to hit measure HR?
Yes.
Yeah, okay, here we go.
Meditate, but don't think about the fact that your heart rate was way higher than mine.
Because that's bad.
That's bad.
Because you had said that mine was bad but we're drinking
and we're on a show is it now it's to hold still it says hold still just use your meditation powers
use your jedi powers what is it it's still it's still it's still measuring hold still don't look
don't look at it it says hold still it's because you're not holding still i'm holding fucking still it just it's a fucking firmware update it does not need a firmware update it's 124 just don't look at it
let's do something else and then we'll look back anyway anyway you're basically dead i will say
that the the new um wearables yeah wearables what are you thinking i
did we talk about
whether we sleep naked or not?
Yes, you said you do.
I do, I do,
because it's very comfortable.
So you won't wear anything?
You wear your wedding ring
when you sleep naked?
I literally haven't worn
my wedding ring
in like five years.
Upside down pineapple suit?
No, just because I got fat.
I was like,
it doesn't fit,
and I'm mad.
And then my wife was like,
you could just expand it. And I was like, then I lost., and I'm mad. And then my wife was like, you could just expand it.
And I was like, then I lost life.
Then you lost life.
I lost life.
I had to fucking expand it.
So to be fair, I've lost weight.
I can't take mine off.
So for what it's worth, we're both in the same boat.
Amazing.
I know.
Fuck it.
I don't know what happened.
I think your fingers get bigger when your body gets slimmer.
I think that's true.
There's an inverse proportion to your finger thickness and your body thickness.
Alright, so what's your future wearable? 124, bitch?
124, bitch? That was 103! That is not down. That was exactly what you were.
I was 103 and you were concerned.
Well, I was still concerned.
Oh my god, this is great. I love this.
So keep going. Future wearables. Do you care to measure your innardsards like do you do you want to like know
like everything so here's the thing a i think information is power when it comes to health
also i don't want to fucking know because i don't do anything about it you had when we were in the
nation you you i'll never forget the day oh we were shooting donations and like I don't know we went out for some like fucking pizza
or something and you're like I can't and I'm like
why and you're like I have high cholesterol
like what happened to that
well
monitoring so it's
funny that you bring that up how's your ApoB
have you checked that I don't know what that is
Jesus I need to have you brother
I will say I just did my
checkup that I hadn't done in a
long time, and my doctor
was like, everything's great. He was like,
we did chest x-ray. He was like,
you're fucking great. Did they look at your ApoB?
I don't know what that is. Do you have your blood work
on your computer? I don't, and I don't.
He has it. I gotta help you.
Let's talk about the ApoB. But,
he said, A, my EKG was
that of a young 20-year-old athlete.
I don't care about that.
How's your LP little A?
Hold on.
How's your LP little A?
Let me just tell you.
I don't know what an L.A.
L.A.
is.
But he also said, all your labs are great.
I know most doctors don't check for the most important thing.
People.
Okay, okay.
But hold on.
Hold on.
Let me do a public service announcement real quick.
Go.
I'm being dead serious now.
This is the most important thing.
99.9% of doctors are out of tune and out of whack.
They don't understand the latest science.
The most important thing, and you can do this on your own,
you can go and request your own blood work.
There's several places that will sell tests that do this,
is ApoB for heart disease.
ApoB.
It is the number one predictor of heart disease
that people do not test for.
And like people will go, oh, what's your cholesterol?
What's your LDL?
What's your HDL?
What's your triglycerides?
Blah, blah, blah.
What's your particle size and count and all that?
Like those are like consider that those to be like nice little things to tack on.
If you're ApoB, you can type in Peter Atiyah ApoB and you'll get a whole podcast on it.
If your ApoB is high and especially if your LP little a is high, like LP little a is when,
well, I'll tell you what LP little a is.
Okay.
LP little a.
Yes.
Okay.
So imagine when you hear about, you're like an athlete in the NFL or a sprinter that drops
dead from a heart attack.
Yep.
Yep.
And you're like, how the fuck could that happen?
Yeah.
Right?
Like.
That guy's got zero body fat. Like zero body fat. Yeah. Peak of their career, attack. Yep, yep. And you're like, how the fuck could that happen? Yeah. Right? That guy's got zero body fat.
Like zero body fat, peak of their career, blah, blah, blah.
There is this one thing, this LP little a,
where if it's elevated, you will still get heart disease
regardless of how fucking fit you are.
And if you know that, you can do things, interventions to help on that side.
Okay.
But you have to get it tested.
LP little thing.
Yeah, but the most important thing for most people,
because most people won't have elevated that, is ApoB.
If you can get ApoB tested.
A what?
ApoB.
So if you do an ApoB test and then type that in, you can basically.
Measure the amounts of AOB in your blood
LabCorp will do it
but you can go to
you know who does this
is a
oh shit
what's the name of it
Life Extension
will sell you
a
just a
like
it's like
30 bucks or whatever
and you go down to
a quest
or whatever
one of those things
they'll draw your blood
and then they just
sell you a thing
that will test for that I just did it through one medical i'll back you up
my doctor was like you're super fit good job i was like did you test my op now i guess we should
do that came back you saw it super high yeah what were you uh 130 yeah 130 so if he wants the range
if he wants it like under 60 under 50 under 90 under 90 but he wants me because that by
runs my family to be like 60 or so
yeah but my doctor's like yeah i guess that's that's bad you should get that down yeah after
the initial like you're great good job i was like what did you i had read peter's book
i thought i was just done for like a year and a half i was gonna just drink and eat whatever i
want and listen i love you and i want you to live for a long time.
I agree with that statement.
Thank you, sir.
I love myself.
Yeah.
Twice nightly.
Yes, I love you too.
And I'm glad that you're already doing all this shit.
Yeah.
But like twice nightly.
What am I saying?
Oh, no, Kevin.
Oh, God.
I'm going to get my ApoB, my LPA, my little A, my fucking.
Just read Atiyah's book, everybody.
Like, seriously, it's the leading, bleeding edge science on this shit.
Like, get the audio book.
It'll be fine.
Dude, I'm going to go test that.
Okay.
And maybe I'll come back and say.
I'm on Repatha.
I get a shot twice, once every two weeks.
And it knocks down my APOB down to perfect levels.
My dad died of heart disease.
My grandpa died of heart disease. My grandpa died of heart disease.
Like it runs in my family. So I had to take that shit seriously. But anyway, next story.
I think it's you. The taxis. Oh no, no, no, no. It was me because you did the aura ring.
Oh, so wearables. So here's the thing. I have a, I have a weird relationship with wearables.
So I work out three days a week. I have my apple watch every single time i think we might have even talked about this every single
time i go to my workout and it's time i start my workout on my apple watch on my fitness app
and i do it it's tracked got the data i don't ever look at that data yeah i don't even know
what i'm supposed to look for in that i look look for my cardio fitness level. I think that watch does a good job with that. I look for my
resting heart rate. I like for my resting heart rate overnight. I look for my HRV.
All right. So I'm going to tell you something.
Put it in GPT and say what you're putting in GPT. What would Peter do say? Upload his book.
Fuck yeah. I'm going to totally upload his book. I'm going to buy his book. Wait, I have his book.
You have it. I'm going to get a PDF of this book.
You're scanning it with your scanner. I'm gonna buy his book. Wait, I have his book. You have his, you can put it. I'm gonna buy, get a PDF of his book.
You're scanning it with your scanner.
I'm gonna scan, I'm gonna scan.
I'm gonna slowly, this is me fucking sitting there
for days, just fucking, ah.
You've been busy, you need a camera.
You're gonna, yeah, yeah, yeah.
By the way, I love that, use your cameras better
than me sitting in my fucking scanner.
Like I'm just doing Xerox copies of my fucking book
in the fucking college.
Anyway, but I will say, I will say, I went through this period like a couple years ago where
I was sitting, and I don't want my parents to freak out because it doesn't happen anymore.
Do they watch this?
Of course they watch this.
They're fucking my parents.
That's what they do.
Hi.
I don't know if they caught up.
Your parents are so great, by the way.
Thanks, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they really are. Yeah, they're cool. I miss seeing them. I don't know if they caught up. Your parents are so great, by the way. Thanks, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, they really are.
Yeah, they're cool.
I miss seeing them.
I'd love to see them again.
You will see them when we do live shows because they will come.
That's awesome.
Your dad has such a great history, man.
He did some of the amazing things.
So cool shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like Mr. Space.
Yeah.
Anyway, but I had this thing where years and years ago, wearing my Apple Watch, watching
TV, literally sitting
watching tv having some drinks he doesn't drink that much mom and dad thank you he wasn't already
hammered when he got here i thank you i was not uh i appreciate you like truly i was not it was not
uh but all of a sudden my apple watch did something that i had never had it do before it tapped my
wrist like three times oh shit like it is a regular heart rate no it said elevated resting
heart rate oh and i looked and it said your resting heart rate is over 120 to 120 bpm
and i went huh that's weird my watch did that to me maybe once a month maybe maybe what the fuck is that i don't know
your doctor no that's fine he doesn't have any information i need anyway uh but it did that for
like probably a couple years and i was like oh that's weird and it it was concerning but it
wasn't like i mean it, it's like, whatever.
Anyway, long story short, that has stopped.
Oh, good.
That has stopped.
Yeah.
You're watching porn?
No, it's just watching TV.
Like, what kind of shows?
Not anything that should raise my heart rate.
Okay.
It wasn't like I was watching, like, just the sexy parts of Game of Thrones.
It was like, just fucking whatever. Yeah. But anyway, it was it was one of those things that i was like well that's not yeah
that's not great yeah my mom hit me up uh this is like a few years ago and she got that that weird
thing that's like you have a arrhythmia oh shit and it detected it but then she went to the doctor
and they're like oh you're too old we don't care you're just kind of fucked up that's super fucked
up but they were also just like hey listen if it happens more than x number of times like
this is not it's not continuing like it went away really quickly so yeah yeah but yeah i mean i love
that it's doing shit like that i that that is the thing that i so back to wearables that that's the
thing that i feel like i want to know you're gonna die yeah like i want to know if there's something that
happens that it's like hey did you hear about the new google watch what it does no i'm not joking
the new pixel watch if you're wearing it and it detects that you're like it sees like a
and then your heart stops it fucking calls 9-1-1 i love all that if you have a heart attack it goes
to 9-1-1 and well it's the same thing with the Apple Watch that does that with car accidents.
Yeah, but it doesn't do it if your heart stops.
Why not? I don't know. It can!
They have the patent. Hey, Siri,
fucking do shit when you...
Google has a patent? I don't know.
I can't imagine they would protect that patent.
Well, all of a sudden, next episode I'm going to have fucking
seven watches on my wrist. Yeah, exactly. All decked
out. Just protecting. But I think
once it becomes not a wearable,
once it becomes like a patch behind your ear,
once it becomes, you know what I mean?
Like a thing that you have that's like subcutaneous
that you like swap out every year.
I'd much rather just have a watch.
It's way easier.
I don't want to wear a watch at night.
I'd be like, fuck my wrist.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
At night, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, sleeping.
I'd be like, fuck my wrist.
All right, next story.
Wearables. Okay, now we're going to get- Oh, we're going to ask about wearables? One last thing. Yeah, sleeping, it'll be like. All right, next story. Uh.
Wearables.
Okay, now we're gonna get- Oh, we can ask about wearables?
One last thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Now maybe we should cut this.
Wait, you don't wanna talk about wearables?
No, I just wanna ask like a more intimate question
about wearables.
I don't have one on my dick.
No.
I don't have a wearable or a cock ring.
That's what I was gonna ask, have you tried one of those?
A cock ring?
Yeah. No.
Never. What. Never?
First off, I'm always concerned when I see them that I would get the wrong size and it would be on me forever.
Can we bleep it so that it doesn't sound quite as bad when we talk about this?
Talk to him.
Okay.
So if you put it around.
First off, how do you decide what size?
First off, we're just talking about sexual health here.
I love sexual health.
But I'm just saying this is not like crude.
Yes.
We're talking about like people that might need this.
So if you put it.
Need?
I thought it was like a.
No, I mean.
Is this, you're talking about a need or just pleasure?
Like people take you by agar for fun.
I don't know what to do with it.
But I do know that like I've tried.
I love this.
First off. A friend of Try love this. Okay, first off.
A friend of Try One Won.
A friend?
Listen.
They cut off the circulation
and they keep it plumper.
But isn't that bad?
Don't you want the blood to flow in?
No, no, no.
But it locks the blood in.
It slows it from coming back out.
Yeah.
So imagine like the best version of yourself,
like a...
Grats. But how do you decide what to get? Yeah. So imagine like the best version of yourself, like a...
But how do you decide what to get?
Like color wise or like...
Yeah, like what style do you want? No. Sparkly?
Like how do you know, how do you go,
do you get like a tape measure and like stick around?
No, I think you just go in and you kind of look
and you're like, this is me. Jesus, that's too flagrant for me i know if it no i know but like if i went to a shop and i'll stop
the shop and i was like i think that's that feels about right and then i put it on and it was too
small i think you're like now i can't get this well i mean this is probably something you ask
the cashier but like i would imagine first off the cashier hey I think I'm this could you tell me
no but you asked
do you want it
I think you want it like
you asked Chachapiti
I think you want it
20% smaller than like
what your normal
maximum output is
20% smaller?
you want a little choke
no but it's like
it's more like
to lock it in
I mean I get that
I understand what you're saying
so what I'm talking about
here for
the gentlemen
that are listening
and the ladies that might want their gentleman but it's more like we're talking about here for the gentlemen that are listening.
And the ladies that might want their gentlemen.
But it's more like we're talking about health stuff here.
I don't want to take it too grotesque.
There is a thing that you can put around that's more like a rubber band around the base of the unit that locks in the pressure of the girthiness. I would say if there was something that I could know that in
the case of emergency, because I think about
the fucking fingers, that somebody has
a ring and they twist their finger
and all of a sudden the finger starts swelling and now
they have to go to the emergency room because they can't get the fucking thing
off. That to me is the
main... That's never going to happen though.
Dude, that's the thing I'm like the most... Yeah, but dude, if you
just lose interest, you're going to be like...
You see what I'm saying? It's not like you get fucked, if you just like lose interest, you're going to be like.
You see what I'm saying?
Like it's not like you get locked in. Isn't the whole point that it can't go back out?
Yeah, but I think you kind of have to have interest to like make sure the blood's good.
Yeah, you're not going to get locked in.
Okay, everybody's giving me the look.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Try it tonight.
I get you now.
All right.
I don't have one.
Baseball.
I'm just going to have a ring, I guess.
Let's move on to our baseball story.
Baseball.
Speaking of manliness.
I don't know why that was there.
So Dodgers star Shohei Ohtani's 50-50 ball
fetches $4.39 million at auction.
That's insane.
Dude, so we live in LA.
Mm-hmm.
I've been a Dodgers fan ever since I moved to la because it's like the local team you know yeah fucking dodgers and i was excited we you know 2020 we won the world
series yeah and it was like oh fucking yeah i think we won the world series in 2020 did we
we went uh hold on world see i don't want to be the guy that says don't worry about it well
well i feel weird if I was like,
we won in the World Series, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Game...
He's in Google.
LA wins.
Yeah, great.
Okay.
Because I remember when I was here in 2020,
I was like, oh my God, this is crazy.
But why is it his 50th home run ball?
No, so here's the thing.
I have not...
I have not watched full baseball games
since Shohei Otani came to the Dodgers.
And I remember when...
So Shohei Otani was in at the Angels,
the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim,
which is the lamest thing ever.
They're in Anaheim, it's not Los Angeles.
Anyway, but Shohei Otani was at the Angels pitching.
He then gets brought over to the Dodgers for $700 million.
Insane.
10-year deal, $700 million.
And I was like, who the fuck is Shohei Otani?
Everybody in LA, who the fuck is Shohei Otani?
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Come to find out, he's a pitcher,
but he's also a really good hitter, which is rare for aah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Come to find out, he's a pitcher, but he's also
a really good hitter,
which is rare for a pitcher.
Dude, it's not even rare.
It's like the rarest thing
for a freaking pitcher.
Yeah.
Even crazier,
this year,
they were like,
we have too many pitchers.
You know who,
what Shohei Otani is?
The pitcher that we bought
from the Angels
is this year,
what he's doing.
Right.
He's the designated hitter.
Oh shit.
He's that good.
He's not pitching.
He's not going to pitch until next season.
And here's the thing.
He starts fucking wailing on the ball.
Not only that,
he starts stealing bases prior to Shohei Otani.
The, prior to Shohei Otani, the record for a matched number of stolen bases
and home runs in a single season was 43.
Oh, shit.
Okay, so he's got the...
And 43, they were like,
nobody will ever get more than 43.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So all of a sudden, Shohei Otani,
43, passes it, 44.
Right?
People must have been going crazy.
So then he gets to...
Well, the regular season's now ended.
Regular season's over.
But through the regular season, he got to 54 home runs, 59 stolen bases.
Why does it say 50-50 ball then?
Because that is the moment where he became a person that had 50 home runs and 50 stolen bases.
But then how much did the highest ones sell for?
It didn't really matter because the 50-50 was like, there's no fucking way he's getting to 50-50.
But he got higher.
I know.
And I'm sure the 54-59 ball was probably worth a lot too, right?
Probably worth a lot too.
But the whole thing was everybody was like, oh my God, I can't believe he got over 43-43.
And then he started climbing, climbing, climbing.
And people were like, there's a world in which he gets 50-50.
And 50-50 was like, mathematically, people were like, that shit's not going to ever happen in the history of baseball.
So the fact that he actually got to 50-50 was like crazy.
And again, as a designated fucking hitter.
It's insane.
It's insane.
And by the way, next season, he's going to be pitching for the Dodgers.
So is he starting?
Why don't they just put him in the lineup if he's that good?
He is.
He's the designated hitter.
He's the leadoff hitter for the entire—
Oh, sorry, the leadoff hitter.
Okay.
Yeah, so he's been playing,
but he literally just hits,
runs the bases,
and goes into the fucking dugout.
Isn't that crazy?
Do you know the creator of Spawn?
Yeah.
Not Seth MacFarlane.
Todd.
Todd MacFarlane, yeah.
He paid $3 million in 99
for Mark McGuire's 70th Home Run Ball.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, do you remember that fucking... Dude, do you remember that fucking McGuire and fucking...
The Dash brothers?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, my God.
It's crazy.
But it's nuts.
So anyway, so the other thing is he came to...
So he's Japanese.
He was like...
That means yes.
...the big Japanese star in the Japanese baseball league.
Won the world champion or won the Japanese championship.
I love that they call it the world championship.
It's like no other country is involved, but whatever, in the U.S.
But he won the championship in Japan, and they were like, this guy.
By the way, he's fucking 6'4".
30 years old.
He's a massive fucking dude.
Yeah.
And the nicest guy.
That's amazing.
And he was like, I'm coming to the US.
I'm going to the MLB.
He sent a request to like 30 plus teams and basically said, I would like you to send me a written like why you want me to come to your town in English and Japanese.
And all the teams sent it.
And he was like, well, I want to go to the East Coast or the West Coast because it's closer to Japan.
And so he ended up taking the deal with the Angels.
He was there for like six or seven years.
taking the deal with the Angels.
He was there for like six or seven years.
And then the Dodgers were like, come up here.
Because he was like, I want to go into the postseason.
He'd never been to the postseason.
Literally into the postseason with the Dodgers,
he is the first person at bat.
He gets up and the first pitch, single home run.
And he's like, fucking here we go, guys.
And everybody fucking loves him.
And it's the craziest fucking thing, dude.
Because I'm like, if I had all the money in the world,
I'd be buying season tickets for next year.
Well, screw that.
Why don't you buy his rookie card?
Well, those are fucking so expensive, man. Are you collecting any cards these days or anything?
So, no.
I love the idea of collecting cards. I've been any cards these days or anything? So, no. I love the idea
of collecting cards.
I've been collecting
a lot lately.
Really?
I mean, I bought
X-Men number one.
What?
I bought Spider-Man
number one.
What?
What?
You don't know this.
I was going to see
them after the show.
They're upstairs, yeah.
Oh my fucking God.
This is crazy.
But they're lower CGC rated
so they're not like
the most expensive ones.
Yeah, but still,
that's fucking rad.
It's just fun to have them, you know?
Dude, I miss collecting.
It's so fun.
Honestly, I miss when I was a kid going to a store.
You know who's big into collecting, who I ping every once in a while?
It's Alexis from Reddit.
Really?
Yeah.
He's big into collecting, dude.
Interesting.
Yeah, we should have him on the show sometime.
Fuck yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
I mean, honestly, collecting to me is like,
it's the thing that I miss the most. It's so much fun. And here's the thing. Like people think like,
Oh, he's got X-Men number one, blah, blah, blah. Like literally if you wanted to go and say,
Hey, I want to own a piece of history. Yeah. I want X-Men number one, like CGC rated 1.0. So
it's like got ripped pages and shit, but it is the fucking thing, right? Yeah. Like you So it's like, got ripped pages and shit, but it is the fucking thing. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you, it's like,
I don't know, maybe like, $1,200, $1,500
or whatever, like, for like a really
shitty version. Yeah. But like, dude,
you guys, these are not like,
they're not gonna go down in
value. No, God no. Like, the
X-Men franchise and everything that's going on, like,
it's like, you gotta, like,
pick some of these up. So I just
went, I have, the most expensive card I have is a Jordan rookie card.
Interesting.
But it's a CGC 9.
So it's not a 10.
But it's still pretty good.
So it's really funny.
I don't even know who to talk to about this.
But when I was a kid, my dad, this was, like, in probably late 80s. I found this shoe box in my dad's closet and it had
all of these cards baseball cards from the 1950s and 60s and i was like what do we look for play
boys right i mean we all look for playboy no i didn't say i didn't say cock rings. Jesus, Mal. It was 1960 cock rings.
Very collectible.
All like tie-dye.
Tie-dye.
Some spikes.
That's weird, but they're there.
But anyway, I found this shoebox full of cards, baseball cards.
Yeah.
But he had like Mickey Mantle.
No way.
Oh, dude.
Do you have them now?
So I.
Sold them.
Well, no.
So what happened was, it was back in the day when there was like the book of values yeah thank it yeah so i started looking through and i was like jesus
christ this is like some of these are like worth like 100 bucks you know back in the 80s yeah
fucking hell what'd you do so i got a trapper keeper because that's what they do no no no and
i got in the fucking plastic that was bad plastic. Well, I just got the regular plastic things. I made it big. Did it make him look bad?
No, it did not.
But here's the deal.
Some guy put him out at a...
You lost it.
No, I didn't.
I put him out at a...
What's it called?
A BDSM conference.
No, it wasn't a BDSM conference.
I don't know.
I'm just trying to fill in the blanks.
Come on.
It was a yard sale.
Okay, yard sale.
And a guy came up and looked... Because I was like, I just want fucking money. I was like selling was a yard sale. Okay, yard sale. And a guy came up and looked.
Because I was like, I just want fucking money.
I was like selling my G.I.
Joe's and shit.
I was like, I just want fucking money to do shit because I thought that was what's important
in life.
I had 10.
Should have bought Bitcoin.
Yeah, no, fuck.
It wasn't existed then.
But this guy named Satoshi came up.
Anyway, so this guy came up and he was like, I'll give you a thousand bucks for that trapper
keeper.
Oh my God.
And I was like, yeah, my God, dad, let's fucking sell the trapper keeper.
My dad was like, I feel like if he wants to sell, if he wants to buy this here for a thousand
bucks, it's worth way more than a thousand bucks.
He should have been like 200 and then like, what, 250 then?
Yeah.
Like how much?
But like a thousand is like, you're playing your hand.
So we didn't sell it.
Yeah.
Cut to, I don't even know where the trapperer went, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
My dad goes, hey, so I have all these.
This is literally like a year ago.
He was like, I have all this stuff.
I don't know what to do with it.
Do you want it?
And I was like, yeah, sure, whatever.
I was home for Christmas or whatever.
Yeah.
And he gave me a Ziploc bag with all of the cards in them.
Oh, my God.
Did you send them out to get at CGC right away?
They're literally just sitting on my desk.
I don't know what to do with them.
Dude, send them to CGC.
I don't, but, I mean, what do I do?
I'll give you 2,000 bucks for them right now.
By the way, I get that.
I have like fucking so many.
I have fucking Willie Mays.
Dude, are you kidding me?
No, yeah, I have like Willie Mays.
You gotta send them off to CGC to get them rated.
Yeah.
And then you'll know what they're actually worth. I mean, I'll text you later and tell me? No, yeah. I have like Willie Mays. You've got to send them off to CGC to get them rated. Yeah. And then you'll know what they're actually worth.
I mean, I'll text you later and tell me how to do it.
Jesus Christ.
But anyway, yes, I have a bag full of Facebook cards.
All right.
Time for my Halloween costume, Mom.
Oh.
All right.
Get ready, people.
It's time.
I told you that I don't have the full costume yet.
All right.
So first off, Etsy, you said?
Etsy is where I got most of the shit.
Oh, my God. Most of the shit. All right. All right. Drum roll, please. full costume yet all right so first off etsy you said etsy is where i got most of shit oh my god
most of the shit all right all right drum roll please listen here's the deal i haven't styled
my hair yet okay i don't know how that's gonna impact it
should i turn around yes oh my god I haven't styled my hair yet.
Kevin, Kevin!
Oh my God, it's like the Long Island medium
has dressed up as fucking Link.
This is fucking amazing.
Fuck yeah, dude.
Dude! You didn't even tie your not yet yeah well i told you it's a working product i guess first off this is it feel the shield dude this oh my god what the fuck i
bought one of the real like jesus christ bro it's like 50 pounds jesus i know let me see the sword
wait lights up i want to charge right now the sword. It lights up on the charge right now.
This feels nice.
It feels good, right?
Don't shake it. That's a nice...
Isn't that good?
This is fucking hysterical.
So, you know, it's a work in progress.
I don't have the hairstyle
because there is an official
link hairstyle.
Just look at that. That looks amazing! because there is an official, like, you know, Link hairstyle. Does it look that bad?
No, it looks amazing.
Thank you.
I mean, you look like a renaissance painter
dressed as Link.
I don't know if you can still hear my mic here.
I don't know if my mic's all jacked up or not.
Dude, that is a fucking jerkin', bro.
What is a jerkin'?
Yeah, that's what this is.
Oh, is that what it is?
Okay.
Yeah, but it has a hood, too.
So I can go like...
Like that.
And there's like a little...
Oh, my God.
This is fucking amazing, bro.
You know, I'm getting there.
This is fucking...
I mean, the hat came off.
Did it?
Oh, it's got the...
You've got the like little like samurai bun.
Yeah.
Yeah, bro.
So I gotta like...
I gotta like hairspray it.
Wait, did the hair come from the suit?
It's real hair. No, I know, but did got to like, I got to like hairspray it. Wait, did the hair come from the suit? It's real hair.
No, I know, but did it?
No, I'm just kidding.
But did it come with the outfit?
Yeah, but I also have like this like shoulder pad thing and the belt and I've got like all
this stuff to still put together, but.
I like the shoes.
Do you not?
Yeah, the shoes are great.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Did the shoes come with it or did you buy those?
I hate to say this, but I've had these shoes for like three years.
They're waterproof. And I, when I was in these shoes for like three years. They're waterproof.
And when I was in Portland, Oregon, it was like nice.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got some Link shoes.
They match kind of, you know.
Dude, I thought that came with the costume.
Yeah, it's good, right?
It's fucking great.
So you haven't decided what you're going to do?
So this is the thing.
I was just telling everybody.
I don't know what I'm going to do.
I was supposed to do Beetlejuice.
And Heather was going to do Lydia Dietz.
But now Heather might do Mrs.rs roper from three's company and i don't know if i necessarily want to go as
mr roper it's also like so aged like i know i know all of this is the things why i was like
um my my oldest zel is going to actually be Zelda.
That's amazing.
So I'm Link.
Best Zelda ever.
She's got a sword, too, just like me, but not as heavy.
And then...
Are you guys doing, like, the thing in the neighborhood?
Like the family thing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're going to do the neighborhood thing.
Any parties?
No parties.
So this is just for the neighborhood?
This is just for the neighborhood, yeah.
And our audience.
And our audience, yeah, exactly.
Oh, my God, I love it.
Yeah.
I think it's fucking great, dude.
Thank you.
Dude, all Etsy?
Dude, now I'm going to go home
and fucking Google Etsy Halloween costumes.
Dude, look at this sword freaking leather and shit.
This is the thing that I'm like...
I wish I could show you this thing glowing
because it lights up.
It has this huge glowing thing. But for i i for some reason it ran out of batteries but uh did you get
it i just got i just well i didn't charge it long enough but like has a little charging unit at the
bottom but it's actually pretty crazy yeah and the sword literally everyone this like weighs like
dude this is this is an actual shield yeah But like, who does this? Like those LARPing
people? What are the people that like do cosplay?
No, LARPing people. Cosplay, yes.
LARPing, no. What is LARPing?
LARPing is live action role play.
Okay. So LARPing, no, no, no.
This is way too heavy. This could take a hit though.
No, I know, but the whole thing is you want this to be foam
so that you can run around all day
and get hit and people, and the
swords are foam. So what would this be considered, cosplay?
Cosplay for sure.
Okay, so cosplay.
I mean, that's like serious.
That's fucking serious shit.
Yeah, so cosplay,
they're serious with the cosplay shit.
Dude, that is legit.
What is it made of?
I don't know, like steel and shit.
It's heavy as hell.
I mean, I think it's wood.
It's maybe wood with, that's fucking heavy shit. Have you ever gone into those cosplay things? heavy as hell. I mean, I think it's wood. It's maybe wood with...
Have you ever gone to any of those cosplay things?
Oh, dude, I mean, I've fucking lived at those
for ages. Yeah, Mal.
Yes! Put that on.
It's insane. Yeah, that's an actual
shield. My tattoo artist, Jess,
she goes to these, like,
the dress-up shit,
you know?
She's tried to do Zelda before, but she's gone to, like, oh, what's that one where they all dress up as immediate evil characters like she's tried to do Zelda before
but like
she's gone to like
oh what's that one
where they all dress up
as medieval characters
and they go out in the middle
like once a year
they go out in the middle
what is it?
Ren Faire
no
no that's LARPing
no but what's the one
that's really popular
it's kind of like
in the midwest
it's like a thousand people
and it's like
it's almost like Burning Man
for like medieval times
Renaissance Faire?
no it's not Renaissance Faire I'm googling this is like the real it's like, it's almost like Burning Man for like medieval times. Renaissance Faire? No, it's not Renaissance Faire.
I'm Googling.
This is like the real, it's like invite only.
Oh.
Yeah, it's like this high end, like crazy, like, she said you got to get an invite to it.
I really want to go to it.
It sounds fucking awesome.
You know, it's.
The Balder, no, no, no.
No.
Balder artist.
She's going to kill me right now.
Because I, I. Because I'm...
Anyway, she goes to it.
And, like, dude, like, they take it legit.
Bro, I want to go.
I want to go.
They make their beer there.
They have, like, fucking real fights and shit.
They have, like, whorehouses.
They have, like...
No, no, no.
But, like, not real.
But, like, nice.
Medium.
But, like, nice.
But, like, they have, like, all the, like, renaissance.
Not the renaissance.
Medium.
But like nice.
But like they have like all the like Renaissance,
like not the Renaissance,
but like the whole gamut of like metal workers to,
you know, you name it.
Midwest burners?
No.
Type in like.
I mean, Bell Arden's, Wisconsin Burning Man.
Maybe it's Bell Arden's.
What is that?
No, that's in France.
So this is kind of like, type renaissance uh penzic penzic yeah type in penzic war p e n n s i c penzic war penzic war yeah so do do an images of
this so here's the deal if you are a Penzic member,
dude,
this is like insane.
They build this town.
Look at this shit.
Yeah.
And there's like real battles and shit.
And then like,
like you have to like barter for shit.
It's just like Burning Man.
But if it was medieval shit.
Dude,
this is crazy.
I know.
Look at these,
these like nighttime festivals and they all get like,
they sell swords and crossbows and all kinds of crazy shit.
And they have these massive wars.
It's called Penzic.
So if you are a member of Penzic, Alex and I would like to go next year.
I'll dress not like this, but similar.
Penzic, the city of tents.
Yes, that's it, dude.
Oh, dude, look at the fucking, look at that.
Yeah, it's a massive battle.
And then there's like, at night, it's just like, every camp has its own theme.
Oh, wow.
You know, they do different things.
Like, you'll go to like, an old pub.
You'll go to like, a place that makes crossbows.
You'll go to like.
Oh, dude, that'd be awesome.
It's invite only.
We gotta get in.
We can make it happen.
We can make it happen.
Yeah.
Penzik.
All right. Fuck yeah. I love this get in. We can make it happen. We can make it happen. Yeah. Henzik. All right.
Fuck yeah.
I love this shit.
Well, happy Halloween, everyone.
Happy Halloween.
I'm very excited.
I can't wait to see what I end up doing for Halloween.
But that is it for this week's edition of Dignation.
My God, do we do these longer than we used to.
Yes.
We covered a lot of ground tonight.
And we hope you all are safe and well and have a happy halloween and check your lp lower a's
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