Diggnation (rebooted) - Under the Wire with AI, Exoskeletons, and Gaming PC builds | EP 10 | Diggnation

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

Kevin and Alex take on everything from the future of teleportation, GLP-1 blindness, and using AI to help diffuse a bomb. Big stories today after Kevin's trip to Japan, including discussions about robotic exoskeletons, gaming rig building, and MIT's robotic insects. It's a fun-filled episode packed with insights and laughs. Plus, exciting news on Diggnation Live in Austin, which is nearly sold out!📚 Time Code Markers0:00:00 Introduction0:04:40 Travel and Personal Health: Tokyo trip, Kevin's health.0:06:30 Japanese Culture and Lifestyle: Denim, coffee, apartments.0:12:27 Home Improvement and Design: Kitchen reno.0:15:30 Diggnation Live tease, sponsor intros, Element ad.0:20:02 Technological Innovations: Exoskeletons in China.0:23:54 Gaming and Technology: Gaming rig build, AMD vs. Intel, Switch 2.0:36:44 Privacy and Data Security: Delete Me promotion.0:41:56 Sustainability and Future Tech: Carbon capture, teleportation.0:55:02 Health and Medical Procedures: Colonoscopy, death thought experiment.0:59:03 Drones and Surveillance: MIT insect drones, privacy.1:04:27 Starbucks and Public Spaces: Customer strategy, public bathrooms.1:13:03 Controversy and Social Commentary: Kanye, Shopify.1:22:54 Health and Wellness Trends: GLP-1s, obesity, Japanese lifestyle.1:35:48 Show Wrap-up and Announcements: Valentine's outro, live show teases.💎 Episode SponsorsDelete MeTake control of your data and keep your private life private with Delete Me. Sign up now for a special discount for our listeners.🔗 https://joindeleteme.com/digg💰 Promo Code: DIGGLMNTStay hydrated with LMNT, a zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix that's perfect for anyone looking to maintain their hydration levels without the added sugars.🔗 https://drinklmnt.com/digg📢 Top StoriesRobotic Exoskeletons Aid Tourists in Climbing China's Mountain Taihttps://www.cnn.com/travel/robotic-ex...Solar-Powered Device Captures Carbon Dioxide to Make Sustainable Fuelhttps://www.nature.com/articles/s4156...MIT's Robotic Insect Achieves Flight Recordhttps://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...👥 People MentionedTim Ferrisshttps://tim.blog/Jason Calacanis 

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Welcome to Dignation. Also potentially hazardous to your health. MacGyver, look at MacGyver data. Welcome to Dignation. Also potentially hazardous to your health. All right, moving on. Why do you have flies in your freaking house? I noticed this earlier. It's Southern California, and I have fruit. You put zombie, and you put deer in the title,

and I don't want to do it. Dignation.com. Hello, Hello everybody and welcome to Dignation, episode number 10. I'm Alex Albrecht. Konnichiwa. Oh. Yes, and I'm Kevin Rose. Welcome to the last episode of Dignation.

It is a beautiful day in Los Angeles. And we are in our new spot. Our new digs our new home Check out the stuff. We got a what's it called? A plexi. What's it called plexiglass? Okay, okay, okay, okay, which is very exciting. So all the games new couch new couch. Oh, I think this might be a temporary It's a loner couch. Yes, Prigger sent this to us. Did you play? No And then if Kevin moves his head Did he? No.

Okay. And then if Kevin moves his head, look at this! Old episode thing? This is a picture that we blew up from our last live show. Last live show. Last episode of Dignation. Look at that. And I forgot how ornate the couch was that we got.

And how young we were and how much less gray hair I had. You want us? You... Oh, don't... You color now. I don't! Yes you do! No I don't! Dude, look at my hair.

Look at my fucking beard. No, I know your beard. If I was going to color my hair, I would color my beard. That's what everybody has to do. First of all... Oh, you do because you used to have a little gray spot on your eye. I still do! It's right here. It's gone away.

It's not gone away. The rest of it's just gone gray. Fuckers. Anyway, also... We brought over the shovels that we were on the Fallon show. Oh, it's right here. It's gone away. It's not gone away. The rest of it's just gone gray. Fuckers. Anyway, also, we brought over the shovels that we were on the Fallon show before we closed down and Jimmy gave us golden shovels. Jimmy, if you're watching, we love you. Love you, buddy. Long time.

Come hang. Oh, yeah. Southwest West. Coming up, live show, Southwest Southwest. Yeah, so speaking of. The 8th of March. Yeah. You know, I'd like to say that, did Maggie write me back? I'd like to say that, did Maggie?

I'm pretty sure, she says there's four tickets left, general mission. Wow. And she liked my list line idea. So this is the whole plan. One, go to Dignation.show, top banner, you can click on it. You know what I've noticed, and this has happened a couple times,

there's been a few people that have said, oh shit, I can't make it. So I just process their refund and give them the money back because obviously, what, money? So every once in a while, a couple of tickets will pop up and then it'll sell right back out. So you might be like a ticket, worst case scenario, if you go there and everything's sold out

and you still want to go and you're like, ah damn, I'm gonna be in Austin at South By, just show up. Because as people cycle out, we're gonna be having more people come in. And I talked to Tim, Tim Ferriss, he's gonna have a guest on before us. So you're gonna actually get to see a Tim Ferriss show.

Bonus show. With a guest, not me, not the random show thing, but he's gonna have his own awesome guest. Yeah. Just before our show. With a guest, not me, not the random show thing, but he's gonna have his own awesome guest. Yeah. Just before our show. Check this out, we're gonna tighten in old school Dignation style. Bring it in.

We had it out so you could see and look, bam! That's what we're talking about. Also, Mal, if you wouldn't mind turning that away from me because I just cannot stop looking at my fucking self. No, I like it! There's a giant monitor, I just keep looking over here like this. I'm like, ah, how's everybody doing?

It's true, yeah. I'm looking at myself. Thankfully that he just took that distraction. Well, I do want to see my dad shoes. I got these new dad shoes. Oh, dad shoes? Yeah, what'd you think I said? Well, when you walked in, you were like, I got, I got.

Well, first of all, you guys said these look like nut sacks on the back of my shoes. Who said that? I do. That's how shoes work. Well, I mean, they are. I can't even see. Now we turned it. So I thought you I thought you.

Oh, my God. What did you think? I thought that you had somehow found a store that had made shoes that your dad used to wear and that you finally had them make a pair for you. Pass away. I know. But I was like, that's that's very sentimental. You're like, these are dad shoes. No, they call them dad shoes because they look horrible.

You look like a dad. That's kind of the point. It's sort of like baggy jeans. Nobody looks good in them. Baggy jeans are back? I know, but nobody looks good in them. I know, but I did get some jeans in, so I was in Tokyo.

That's why I started the show off saying, konnichiwa. I was gonna say, konnichiwa. Yeah, so. How was Tokyo? It was so awesome. We gotta do another started the show off as saying Konnichiwa. Konnichiwa. Yeah, so. How was Tokyo? It was so awesome. We gotta do another show there. We gotta do another show. Because I've been there and Heather been there.

I mean, I was only there the one time we went. And then Heather's been. Insane to me. I know because I fucking loved it. First drink since Tokyo. Hey, welcome back. By the way, did you just land yesterday? Two days, three days ago.

So listen guys, first of all, a little New Year's update. Oh! All of Japan, or all of Japan. All of Japan was wondering. All of January, I did really fucking good. Yeah, me too. I'm kind of over excessive drinking, except for when we do our shows. Meaning that like...

Wait, you're kind of over that, or is that the new plan? That's the new plan going forward. Oh yeah, smart, smart. So the crazy thing is like, I would say in all of January, and if I'm being really honest, I lied to do that one time. No, but I would say I probably had six drinks in total in all of January. I did nothing. You know, I did nothing up until January 30th.

And then how many do you have? What do you mean how many? I drank that one day and then I drank the next day. So how many did you get in January? Oh you're talking about total. It's like that episode of the Detroiters. Have you seen it? It's so great.

Guy's at his doctor's office and he's like, he's like, so how much do you think you drink? And he goes, how often do you drink? And he's like, I don't know, I'm good for 10. And he was like 10 in a week. And he goes, or, how often do you drink? And he's like, I don't know, I'm good for 10. And he was like, 10 in a week. And he goes, a week? And then he goes, you have 10 beers in a day? And he goes February. And continuing straight into February. Yeah, yeah. I took some time. We've been all over the place already so far in this episode. I'm a little jet-lagged.

Yeah, all good. I went on a Japanese denim kick when I was out there. Yeah, so what is, I've seen a lot about Japanese denim, but I don't know much. Okay, so here's the deal. This will be old hat to a lot of people, because I know Japanese denim's doing this thing for a while. The one thing that I will say that is so awesome

about Japan right now is the exchange rate is so freaking good against the dollar. Oh really? Oh dude, I had no clothes because all my clothes burnt in fire. I went there and I went to the store and I got like three pairs of jeans like these, like really nice jeans, a couple of shirts, a beanie, and this really nice jacket.

And you know, all in was like, you know, 800 bucks. And this is like for the best of the best. And I was like, that's not how you usually go by clothes in Japan are. No, it was like, how are these tight? Like tough? So what they do is they base them on like the ounce weight of the denim. And so I'm gonna put, we'll put this in the actual video so you can watch it right now, but let me just show you this video.

So these are a pair of jeans that I have. This is a video. Those are standing straight up. They're standing up on their own without me touching them. What? Because they are that thick. So they are insanely uncomfortable to wear. I was going to say, I was like, this is not how I want my jeans to feel.

It feels like you jumped in a pool and then got out and you're wearing jeans. Oh god. Like that. Have a nasty feeling. But what, is there an upside to it? Yes. They look cool. No, no, no.

It has nothing to do with the looks. Okay. You wear them for six months without washing them. Painfully. Not straight. Painful. You can't take them off for six months. But them. Not straight. Painfully. Not straight. Painfully. You can't take them off for six months. But you do not wash them.

Okay. And then they slowly start to break in. And when they break in, they're like the most luxurious, comfortable cotton, like form-fitting jeans you'll have ever had. So six months of utter uncomfortability and no washing. And then you have like the most badass pair. And they're so thick, like the seams are thick

and they're just like, they get all like, they completely change colors too. Oh, of course. They like break in and they get faded. It's kind of the thing. It's really awesome. Well, it's almost like what I mean, because look, that's the end of the day, like everything, like I bought, these are all pre-faded, you know what I mean? Right.

I had ones for a while that had like grips already in them, it's like that style is from people wearing the shit out of their jeans and they start disintegrating and then people are like, that looks cool. So it's like, you're basically starting, I just don't know if I have the constitution. No, we should go, when we go to Japan,

we'll go to this place I know, we'll get you some jeans and you know, you'll pay 75 some jeans, and you'll pay 75 bucks or whatever, and they'll last you forever. Dude, 75 bucks is cheap for a pair of jeans. Yeah. You know what I mean? I bought a couple different pairs. One of them was called Big John,

which is one of the oldest manufacturers out there. Those are the big heavy ones. But anyway, it was a lot of fun. I didn't realize, like, just full honesty. Yeah, that's why we're here, full honesty. You know, after the fire and everything, just having a break with a couple buddies. Yeah, I get that.

I get that. Just like, just getting out of the house and just being like, and going, you know, we had a couple drinks and had this one thing called Ghost Ice, which I can show you a video with ice. Oh yeah, that looks super cool. It kind of disappears a little bit.

See it? It's gone. Yeah. Scooby-Doo ice. Had fun. Had fun with my buddy Tony and Josh. And now we're back. That's cool.

So, it's gonna be back. A little jet lag, but I'm doing good. Yeah, how long is that trip? Is that still? It's 12 hours out there from LA, and then we had some good winds coming back. So it was like eight and a half, nine hours coming back. That's what? That's nothing. I don't know what the hell was going on, but we saved a bunch of time coming back.

That's crazy. That was great. But dude, oh, so I got a buddy, by the way, if you have never heard of Craig Maude, type in Craig M.O.D., find this guy's blog. He is like the Japanese backpacker slash like artisan finder. He took me to his coffee shop. They have like, you know, like an $80 cup of coffee. And I would think. What does that taste like? I know that sounds crazy.

It's this like geisha coffee, that special type of coffee that they do. Oh, geisha coffee. Well, it's just like a varietal. And it is, I'm telling you, they serve it in a wine glass. I mean, I'm already enjoying it. Exactly. Coffee in a wine glass?

But I will say, I walked in skeptical because I've been to a lot of high end good coffee places. And most stuff in Japan is actually reasonably priced right now, as we said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I walked in and I was like, this is the most amazing thing. But anyway, Craig has a whole blog

dedicated to these rare finds and he just does all these backpacking like trips across Japan, find these little tiny cities. And then like, like. Was this the guy that you went to, the UK and did that thing? Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's cool. Anyway, he was there.

He took me out. Dude, you can buy a little apartment in Tokyo right now. Yeah. A little cute little apartment in a nice little neighborhood. Yeah. About 75 grand for US dollars. Yeah, but don't expect to depreciate. So they don't really appreciate it out there.

But I'll appreciate it. You'll appreciate it. And like if you're staying in nice hotels and you use it, like it's awesome. And then he's like, oh yeah, I bought this like apartment. He got a slightly nicer one and then, you know, he had a contractor come out and do the work and he was like, yeah, there's like no change orders. Like there's like a Japanese code of like, oh, we promised you a quote and we promised

you by this time. Yeah. Like there's like a, like it would be dishonorable not to. Yeah. Like you're like, well, this bathroom is going to take a while because the construction guy had to jump out of the window because it took him a day longer. So I don't know when we're going to clean that up.

He decided it himself. He's like, this toilet was not how it was supposed to be. Like that is so refreshing, right? Because it's like in America, it's like, oh, we said that was 20K. It's actually, well, I'm sure you're going to get it. Yeah, he was like knocking on the walls like, ooh, I didn't know these walls were lamb bakes. Yeah, exactly.

Like, what the fuck does that mean? It's an 120K. God damn it. We did, I will say that actually did not, they were very nice, but that, we did have our first, cause we're getting our kitchen redone, and we did have our first sort of like, huh, what are we gonna do now?

There was a wall that we were supposed to get rid of because it was just like, we thought it was like a garnish wall, worse. Was it termites? Yeah, it was holding up the entire kitchen ceiling. This little wall, we were like, yeah, and then we'll just get rid of this wall. We'll put our big fridge there.

And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were like, talk, talk, talk. Okay, so. Wait a minute. Okay, okay, so wait. It was a structural wall that you didn't know, but it was doing a good job holding the ceiling up.

I mean, the ceiling's still up. But they did not plan- But when they pulled it apart, was it like, oh shit, this could have like- No, it was more like, huh, that's going to be really hard to take out. Why is it so hard to take out? Huh, why is there a big beam going across the ceiling? Because we were deleting a wall between the kitchen and the living room and the living room's got a vaulted ceiling. So we had to do all this like crazy engineering.

Okay, I've been here before. I've been here before. Yeah. So we had to do all this. It's expensive as hell. So but here's the crazy part. The structural engineer has to come in and take a look at it. 100%.

So the guy literally just goes, that's a 10 to $15,000 job. Oh, at minimum. And then you use steel to reinforce so much. So what we did was we basically went, okay, well, let's try reorganizing how the kitchen's designed. And the designer came back and she's super nice. And she just looks and she goes. She was like, you got the walls open. She's like, if you switch the the fridge over here

and you put a pantry over there, she was like, I could do it. She was like, but every time you open the fridge, you're going to go, why the fuck didn't we just pay the 10 grand, 15 grand? So we called the guy and we're like, I could do it. She was like, but every time you open the fridge, you're gonna go, why the fuck didn't we just pay the 10 grand, the 15 grand? So we called the guy and we're like, we're doing it. And he was like, oh, really? Why don't you just go to Home Depot and make that shit yourself?

Bro, the stuff that they had to do, they had to cut holes in the floor. Because especially in California. And then dig four and a half feet down, squared, pour concrete in it, add, I mean mean it's crazy, they just put it in, I'll send you a picture when I get home, they just put in this fucking giant beam so now there's no wall.

It is crazy looking, the difference, because you guys were just there. The whole thing is now just all the kitchen and living room. That's kind of dope though. It's gonna be great, but it was one of those moments where I was like, oh boy. You have a perfect size little house. It's like, it's like not too big, not too small.

It's like, it's just a great spot. We have enough rooms that we can have a guest room. I can have an office, Heather can have an office. And we have like, we use our like dining room for a home theater thing, which is really cool. I love it. All right, well before- What's that done by the way?

When are we gonna get to go check that back out? Ooh, you. Year from now. Year from now, who? And again, to a good life. And Jane George's later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Technically, I think two more months,

but I know they wanna kind of like go a little bit faster because we were down for two weeks when they had to like get the engineer back in and make sure, so it's like, it's been a tick. It's been a tick, let's just say that. All right. We have some fun news. Yes.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I hate that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's potassium too? Yeah. Potassium, it'll get you. See, you don't have to worry about that anymore. By the way, both Heather and I's favorite flavor,

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Awesome. All right, well shall we get to the first story? First story of the day. Robotic exoskeletons help Chinese tourists climb the country's most punishing mountain. I love this story because I don't, have you seen the videos of the tourists going through? So there's basically this like mountain pilgrimage

and it's not like, you know, climbing Mount Kilimanjaro or anything like that. It's just that there's a, it's called Mountain Tai in Eastern Chinese province of Shandong. And essentially, what, what? I just said it's a great province. It's great, it's the best kind of dong. It's my favorite, the mountain top dong of Shandong.

By the way, we should go to China. You've been to China, you did the tea thing in China. I did, yeah. All my tea burned in the fire. Oh yeah. I keep bringing things up like that, it feels so bad. I was aging poor tea from 10 years ago. Poor.

Poor. But it's really funny because there's a lot of social media videos that I have seen over the years of people just full on jelly leg, just trying to get and it's not a steep, it's just consistent, right? Like it's not like steep stairs. And so people are just like, Oh, I want to make it up and, you know, go up to Mount Thai and like see the thing. And so they just start. And once you start, it's like, you know, what are you going to do? Turn around. You still got to walk all the way back down. So you see all these people with like the jelly legs and that would be me. Oh my god, it would totally be me.

Well, a company has started, I don't think they've officially launched the service. It's like a pilot service now. But for between eight and eleven dollars- It's like a robo sherpa. You can literally wear your own exoskeleton. That looks like it's doing nothing, dude. No, people are saying that it makes all the difference in the world, because it's just enough.

Kevin, it's just enough. It's just enough. No, it's jerking their thighs. Barely. But it's just enough. That's the whole thing. It's not, you know, it's not, you know, Ripley at the end of Aliens.

It's just enough. You know, when I saw this story, I was expecting like a full on like, climbing into like a freaking term. But how great is this? But this is the stepping stone.'s just enough. You know when I saw this story I was expecting like a full on like Climb into like a freaking term. But how great is this? But this is the stepping stone. It's enough. And by the way, one of the guys said, It's like I feel like someone is pulling my legs up the mountain.

Oh I kinda like that. Right? Yeah but then how long does it last? What's the battery? Five hours of use. Where's the battery pack? Okay they show it here I think. Hold on. Yeah look, look, look, look. There on the hips.

It's a tiny battery pack. It's multiple. There's two. There's at least two. First of all, that little battery pack? Okay, they show it here, I think. Hold on. Yeah, look, look, look, look. There, on the hips. It's a tiny battery pack. It's multiple, there's two. There's at least two. First of all, that little battery pack is like something you would snap onto a drone that would have 12 hours or 12 minutes of time. Yeah, but it's just slightly jerking the legs. It's not like it's got a, you know what I mean?

It's not like you're using it to lift a tub into a van. I wanna try it. I would use this, well, I mean, if they had a more aggressive version of this. Oh, I think they're setting. Great for Everest. I mean, great for Everest. I would do that with Everest. By the way, pretty soon people are literally just going to get into a mechanical basket.

Oh, 100%. With oxygen and then it's just going to walk them up on the little AT-ST legs in Return of the Jedi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can't really climb with them, but yeah, I hear you. They're not really climbing it now. I mean, I don't want to be. I wonder if this is, how much of this is hype versus like,

it's too bad this is in China, because otherwise we'd get them on the show and try it. I mean, that's an assumption that you can't get them on the show and try it. I feel like we should reach out to this company, somebody. Yeah. We've got a lot, by the way, if anyone has connections in China,

so far we've covered Chinese sex bots. We'd also like one of those we've covered The mechanical legs there's a lot of things in China. We we need to go out. That's at least two That's at least two their new AI is pretty good to that new one. Oh, yeah, go deep deep sink Deep seek deep seek something like that one. Yeah. That's pretty awesome. Um, alright. Anyway. Very excited.

Uh, bye. How are we doing on time now? Uh, we're doing great, yeah. Keep it up. Alright. Next door of the day, want to talk about a gaming rig. Oh yes! And also the Switch 2.

So, it is gaming season, I've decided. I like that. The reason being is that you want it to be I Haven't built a computer since like oh god, dude. So it's like the Pentium days and shit It's been a long time. I get that and I was like I When you kind of don't have anything and then you're like, well, I should have a little hobby Yeah I was like it'd be fun to have a proper little gaming rig

and just like, you blow off a little steam every now and then, my steam account. And... So off my steam account. And then, so I started going into a deep. Yeah. And you're on a thread with me and Will and we're talking about gaming rigs.

So I finally came up with a gaming rig. I love it. I'm gonna do the 9800X3D, the new AMD chip. So you're going AMD, not Intel. Which is love it. I'm gonna do the 9800X3D, the new AMD chip. So you're doing AMD, not Intel. Which is good, because I think I got the, I can't remember which one, was it the 1300 or 13,000, something like that?

It's not been a problem for me, but there's been an issue with the current gen architecture of Intel that's screwing around with stuff. Oh yeah, I've heard about that. I have a patch for it now. Well I mean, that's great, but I understand why you're going AMD, because I've always been. Well, yeah, I've heard about that. Yeah, I have a patch for it now. Well, I mean that's great But like I understand why you're going AMD because I've always been AMD chips are faster now. I know but I was hesitant It's almost like dude. I love it

But it's okay. I'm going I'm going my next build is gonna be AMD. All right, so Anyway, spect it all out got a really dope case. I can send them out a picture of it It's kind of like a little bit of like wood and it looks pretty cool. It's very modern. Excuse me, I got a X870E motherboard. I said ASROC, but is ASROC, is that the name of the motherboard company? Asus? No.

Not Asus. Everyone pronounce Asus like Ass Rock. I don't know what you're trying to pronounce, Ass Rock. It's A-S-R-O-C-K. Yeah, it's like Asus. Have you not seen these leather boards? No, no, no. It's the raw, it's Asus.

Oh, is this Asus? Yeah, isn't it Asus and ROC is their like gaming arm, right? Oh, I didn't know this was an Asus company. Yeah. Okay, so I see why you an Asus company. Yeah. So I see why you used the Asus. ASROC. I'm just like. I haven't been in the game for so long. I literally can't believe. I'm pretty sure. I'm a new manufacturer called ASROC. Yeah I'm pretty sure it's the Asus ROC. Well it looks like, now that I look at the logo, it's the ASROC.

ASROC. ASROC. Thank you. Because I think that's like shortened what people called the Asus rock or the Asus rock I gotcha. Okay, so they call the AS rock. Listen, whatever it is rock It's a it's a very heavy and durable motherboard. What did you end up doing with the monitor? I got that I know we were going back. I got that. I got the OLED so I could get the the deep blacks. Yeah Yeah, you got that's great. I response time It was actually it's actually an Asus monitor as well. I'll take it the exact model. What size did you go with? 32 that's good. Yeah, and same 16 by 9. No, oh yeah I'd exactly and the ultra wide has has really fucked with my head. I get it

I get it I get it and I will, when I first set up my 34 inch, I think mine is actually an Asus, or Asus, ultra wide, when I first set it up, it was overwhelming. It felt like I was using VR. Like it's just like, cause there's so much in your periphery, but gaming, I couldn't go back. Cause you see so much, because you get to

see in your peripheral. So it's really, it's an interesting thing. I wouldn't go back. However, I could understand not getting to do it in the first place because I don't think not having it is a detriment, but I think once you have it, it's hard to not have it. Well here's the cool thing. If that makes sense. Because of the size of it and because I have no monitors,

like zero, I thought to myself, okay, this could always be a backup Mac monitor. Oh yeah. Six months from now, I'm like, eh, it's not for me, I want the wider one or whatever. Oh, I get that. And then you can always go on Amazon and like, damn, we've got a return policy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that. And just like, mm, put it back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, everything else is pretty standard. Oh, the new, the new freaking video cards. That's the next step. I know we're working on trying to get it. So what I did is, rather than get, because obviously there's a brand new video card that Nvidia just came out with. Oh, so you didn't get the 5090s? Is it the 5090? Yeah.

So I did not get the hottest one because I did the research. What did you get? Well, it's dropping right now. I mean, it's coming out right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I went out and I was like, okay, I'm gonna get the brand new one,

like, you know, because of course I want the dope video card. And it's going for like 40 or 50% over retail. Oh yeah, no, no. You're like, five grand for the card. I'm like, no. No, no, no. And so my theory is it's gonna take about six months for those prices to normalize, right? Yeah, yeah, I know you're like five grand for the card. I'm like no no no And so my theory is it's gonna take about six months for those prices to normalize Yeah, because the supply-demand side blah blah blah one

It's also not like the last gen where there was a big crypto thing right? They're not really optimized for crypto mining so I think that has tamped down so now it's just people who want them for video game Exactly so what I did is I stepped down like three cards And I and I just went and got like a good $600. I'll tell you exactly which one it is. But I just got a very standard card because I figure like, you know, if I'm going straight in on like, let's just call it.

This is all gonna be new, man. You're gonna be like, what the fuck? Right, I'm gonna be blown away regardless. And then when I get a better card, I'll even be more stoked. But like I'm largely just just playing Diablo and shit. It's not like I'm pushing the shit out of the card. So I got a 4070 OC overclocked edition.

Oh yeah, that's great. I mean, it was 600 bucks. Yeah, that's perfect. And it's gonna be fine, right? You don't need much more than that. Yeah, I mean, I'll just use that for the first four or five months until the prices come down and then flip over the big table.

Plus you're set, right? You've built the PC so that the moment you're ready to upgrade to one of the 50 series, you don't have to do anything except pull that one out, put that one in. That's right. And I was wrong about the display. It's a 27 inch. I was going to say, I was like, 32 is pretty big. Yes, so I want 27. It is the Asus ROG Swift. Oh, it's ROG, not ROC. Interesting. See, yeah, see, that's the other series.

So I don't know if ASROC is owned by ASUS or not. I think it's gotta be the same logo, too. ASROC owned by ASUS. Yes, ASROC is owned by, oh, is owned by Pedatron. Pedatron, which is part of the ASUS group. Okay, well, you know, there we go, Pedatron. What a horrible name. go, Pedatron. What a horrible name. Pegatron.

That's even worse. Well it's less sounding like a pedophile than it is... Then you're getting in the Peg world, which is like... Nobody takes Pegasus and goes to Peg world. Well it's called the Pegatron. Oh the Pegatron, that is worse. That is worse. Actively worse. No, it's actively worse Pegatron. Oh, the Pegatron. That is worse. That is worse.

Actively worse. No, it's actively worse. Yeah. I get it now. I thought you said Pegasus. I didn't know. Pegatron. Pegatron is not...

You probably change your name at that point if you're a company. Although this is the thing, because it's a Chinese company. Do they get that Pegatron means Pegatron? Do you know what I mean? I think about this sometimes where they're like, welcome know, welcome to masturbation, you know, station. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the name of something that's like, you know. That's not in English, that's not good. Yeah, yeah. But you're the master of the station. Right, right.

Yeah. Okay. I think it's fine, it's fine. It's fine, it's fine. Pegatron. Pegatron is fine, Pegatron. All right, so Switch 2 is very exciting to me. Oh yes. I'm a huge Nintendo fan. As per your Halloween costume. As per my Zelda Halloween costume which is now burned. Oh fuck.

I can't bring anything up. I love that you said, I'm just kidding, like you had it in your car just in case. No, no, no, it's actually burned. It's gone. So it's a Master Sword. Oh god. So let's compare the two. So the one thing I will say, obviously it's been 20 years since the Switch has come out.

20 years? No, I'm joking, but it's been a long time. I was like, Jesus Christ, how old am I? The Switch came out like, it has to have been 10 years, right? 2016 maybe, which is very close to the... I don't know. Anyway, so we went, obviously still the same arm architecture, then went to eight cores versus four. 2017.

No big jump there. Still sticking with the Nvidia GPU, which is great. Obviously a better one. The CUDA cores, interesting. So before the old one was 256 in terms of the GPU cores, 1,536, so pretty decent leap there on the Switch 2. Which is so cool because that size of monitor is like the perfect monitor. And then most of the time when you're plugging it in, even in HD, it's not like, you know

what I mean? Like, it's just the graphics look great because you don't, that was always the move with Nintendo once they did the Wii. They went hard. Yeah, and we're not going to compete with these big companies that are just bounding out like crazy high-end, Unreal Engine 17 and all this crazy stuff. They were like, let's just make really great games

because that's what Nintendo does. And they fucking killed it. Yeah, I mean, everything spec-wise from device to device is pretty much more or less tripled. Like the RAM went from four to 12. The RAM bandwidth went from 20 to 68. Storage went from 64 gigabytes to 256. Screen size, they did have a seven inch OLED,

which they came out with maybe a year or two ago. It's been a couple years. And they jumped up to an eight inch now at 1080p, which is nice. It's just, it's a great, they've kind of sanded down all the rough edges on this device in terms of like the controllers, how they work and all that stuff, everything looks good.

I saw the video of like the snap side snaps. One of them actually can work as a mouse now, which is crazy, which came out in a patent, which is pretty exciting. But the thing that I'm curious about is like, I've heard that Microsoft has kind of thrown in the towel. You mentioned this. So Microsoft and-

Yeah, so what's the deal there? Well, they basically just went, we are not necessarily going to have the Xbox exclusives not go over to Switch. I mean, they basically went, there's a whole platform that's fantastic. They're getting their ass kicked. That people love it. I mean- Really?

The PS5 is outselling the Xbox 3-1 or some shit. Dude, that was always, the console wars were always that way, you know what I mean? I was always like. Yeah, but Microsoft had a fighting chancer for a minute. Well, dude, when the first Xbox came out with Halo, like that was, and it had all the stuff. It had like built-in ethernet, which the first PS1.

Oh, I guess you probably did these. Oh, dude, I loved it. It was great because you could do lands, land parties. Oh, yeah, it's a good point. Crossover cables, man. I had a crossover cable. Dude, we used to have land parties where my friends would bring their CRT televisions

and their Xbox to my apartment in Brentwood. We would run crossover cables through the heating duct so that two of us were sitting with our own TVs, our own Xboxes in my bedroom, and two of us were sitting with our own TVs, our own Xboxes in my bedroom, and two of us were sitting with our own TVs, our own Xboxes in the living room, and holy shit, pre-like good, you know, good online games. Right, right.

It was fucking killer. Do you remember the old days where you used to have the piece of cardboard? Like whenever you would do- I've had cardboard before. you would do the competitions between two people on the split screen and in order to not keep looking up, you would literally put a piece of cardboard, like a big piece of cardboard and someone would sit low and then someone would sit high and you play. I fucking love those days.

I miss those days. Talking on Discord is great and I still do it all the time, but like nothing beats that like we gotta we gotta find here's the deal. Here's my promise to everyone out there. Mm-hmm Once I get this PC built. Yes, let's you and I find it multiplayer game Yes, you a Dignation event multiplayer game thing with everybody watching a hundred percent. We could probably find Would you want to play? I'm out of the Counter-Strike. I've got so many Counter-Strike. I'm probably a little rusty at it. I know, you get smirked too. I've been doing Apex Legends if I'm doing shooters. Look at Aston giving me shit.

First of all, Aston's rocking the dad shoes. Everybody's got dad shoes here. Someone got the memo. He had to one-up me. New balance. The second I walk in the door, you know, I'm like, hey, what's up, buddy? You haven't seen me in a while?

Good to see you. And then he's like, I'm like, cool dad shoes. And he's like, these were the ones that Steve Jobs actually wore. So that's the exact model. That's amazing. Do they still sell those or do you have to buy them? That's amazing.

That is the official dad shoe. Yours are just dad shoes. Mine have nutsacks in the back. Those are real. They do look like camel toes. There's a massive camel toe in the back. It's a little embarrassing now that I look at it. That's alright.

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to make sustainable fuel. So I'm sure people have heard about these things called CCSs or carbon capture and storage processes, right? Where essentially they're making these big open, like, devices that basically suck the carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and then store it, right? The problem is is that, as great as that sounds, A, it takes an enormous amount of energy to do that. So it's not just like you pull one carbon out

and it goes into the ground, that's great, there's no carbon, it's like, well, you're pulling a carbon out, but it kinda costs you a little bit of carbon, maybe not a full carbon to do that process. And also you have to store it somewhere. It's not like we can like shoot it, it's not like, what was it, Superman 4 where he just like threw all the nuclear weapons into space. Oh yeah, that's one of the big bad things.

So it's like, you know, you can't really just throw carbon dioxide into space as much as we'd like to. So what these guys at Cambridge University discovered was they built this solar powered reactor that essentially has like this sponge mechanism that during the evening, it's like overnight, it sucks in all of these, all this carbon dioxide. And then when the sun comes up, the solar panels get hit,

and what it does is it uses mirrors to focus the power of the sun onto these things, and it makes this thing, the substance, which is called, let me see if I can find it, it's called solar syngas. So it's basically a synthetic gas, it converts CO2 into this solar sin gas and they can use that synthetic gas to make Hydrogen they can make fuels they can do all this stuff. This agrees to power cars planes and more

Yeah, so essentially what they can do is if they get this to work on scale This is just now something is working sort of locally what it can do is it can overnight suck carbon dioxide out of the air, convert it to the solar syngas, and then they can use that syngas to then produce fossil fuels that can be used by our current systems, but not generate carbon dioxide. But aren't we just doing the whole cycle all over again? Well, no, because it'll be doing things like hydrogen fuel. So it'll be like all these things that then... Slightly cleaner fuels from the sentence. Definitely cleaner fuels than fossil fuels.

But it also then kind of... One of the things that people said in this was they were like, look, this is a great idea, but the problem with carbon capture is it's not really attacking the problem that we're generating too much carbon dioxide. So it's like, is it a band aid? So it's like, it's got to go hand in hand with other things. But I just love the idea that now we're going to be able to take, because that's, you know, as a kid, you're like, well, why don't we just take the carbon dioxide out of the air,

do something with it? Yeah. And the answer is, nobody knows what to do with it. You know what I mean and bury like I think currently some of the CCS systems are capturing carbon dioxide and fucking bearing it Let's almost like nuclear waste. Yeah, which feels like that's not really helping the planet grow into its utter utopia Yeah, it just sounds like it's a lot of work. Well, it is but somebody else is doing it Let's get playing. I mean Kevin, we're not doing it. We're not doing it, definitely not doing it.

And by the way, but you can see, I would say there's a world in which like safe small nuclear, which I think might be a thing, you know what I mean? I think there's a world where everybody's house or maybe even the small sub-grids as they say, where your neighborhood might be powered by a single small self-contained nuclear power plant. I could see these things being installed

like on people's roofs. And think about this, think about like your electric bill, you get like a 50% off on your electric bill if you install one of these CO2 devices, you know what I mean? That's just sitting on your roof, like who cares? I mean, I got solar on my roof, it's like, I don't, it's just there, you know what I mean, that's just sitting on your roof, like who cares? I mean, I got solar on my roof, it's like, I don't, it's just there, you know what I mean?

Like I don't think about it. But then also you can think about like where these could be installed in like higher risk areas. Like I know one of the biggest issues that we have with with our carbon impact is that there are a lot of places like China and Brazil and all these places where it's not the top priority, it's fucking India is like smog central, you know what I mean?

So it's like this type of stuff then sent to and deployed in places like India where it's the most high impact versus some place like the United States where we're all trying to be conscious of it, even though we could do better, I mean, I think everybody could do better. It's an interesting thing, especially that,

like, what comes out of it is a beneficial product that we could actually use. The one thing that I'm always curious about when I hear startups talk about this kind of capture and disposal is, it's like, and this came up a lot in electric cars when it was, okay, yes, obviously getting energy, there's a bunch of factors with electric cars, but one of them is like, okay, what's the source material of the energy coming into the car?

Because if it's coming from a coal plant that's burning down the street, it's not really green, right? And then also what's the payback time to break even? Meaning like it costs a shit ton of carbon to make that car in the first place, the batteries, everything else. And actually, like if you spent, call it, you know, average ownership of a car is like seven years or something or, you know, six years, whatever it may be. Are we actually at breakeven?

Because like it's going to take years and years and years to actually just even pay back the debt. And I know there's, you know, net zero plans and all this stuff and carbon offset credits, which are kind of bullshit a little bit. And so it's always, there's so many devil with details on this shit. Dude, I know.

It's so hard. But this is why I think things like this, things like having an electric car, things like having solar on my house, they're just stuff that I get to go, yeah, I'm doing a thing. But also, you know what I mean? Like I get to go, I'm doing my thing on my house. They're just stuff that I get to go, yeah, I'm doing a thing. But also it's more- You know what I mean? Like I get to go, ah, I'm doing my thing.

My thing. But it's more than that though. I think what it is is it's like any novel new technology that comes out that is not mass consumer, meaning like you don't have, you know, millions of people using it overnight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The early adopters are doing a very important thing

and it's not so much your impact on the environment but what it is is it's signaling and it's also eventually reducing the cost and barrier to entry. Because Tesla's why, the reason why they started off with a $100,000 roadster was because that was a way that they can make up car and be break even. They knew batteries weren't, you know,

didn't have the range, they didn't have, they knew they were fast as shit. And then you get to scale and eventually you get these things down to where it makes sense for the everyday person. I mean, there's so many technologies that are like this. Like, you know, when airline travel first started, especially with jets, it was like a thing

where people wore suits and ties. Because it was a very expensive, luxurious thing to be able to travel on a jet. And now we have Southwest tickets to Florida for $75. Spirit Airlines, they could just stand in the aisle for 10 bucks and get anywhere you want. They'll pay you to use this. They'll pay you to use this.

You just have to carry somebody else's bags. Spirit is horrible. Do we all admit spirit is horrible? I'm pretty sure. Have you been on a spirit flight? Thankfully not. I have been on one. And I can remember.

I took one to Bogota. Why would you? Because it was my friend's cheap and he booked us on it and it was a bachelor party. Good bachelor party. I mean, we all know what happens in Bogota. Hey. Heyo. Bogota.

You know what I'm saying? It was, it was... I'm really? It was, it was, um... I'm really excited about the, what is it the, um... Oh god, what's it called, the X1, or what's it? There's a new supersonic jet company. Yes. That they just went supersonic on the test jet. Yes.

For the first time in like four days. I will not be taking that. Oh dude, I'm so, so in. You would go? Here to like, or here to like London in three and a half hours? I'll sit there for four and a half. Why?

I mean I'm gonna have Xanax to sleep anyway, so it doesn't really matter. I guess if you're taking Xanny, you're just gonna Xanny down, but like. Overture. Overture. Yeah, it was the boom X1, right? I remember back in the day you were like,

my dad flies to the Concord or he's done flying to the Concord before. Yeah, it was the boom x1 right? I remember back in the day you were like my dad Flies the Concorde or he's done fun the concert before yeah, yeah, and then the fucking thing goes down I mean thankfully he was not yeah Secondly it was I think it was he was on the first flight because he was stuck in London and had to get back And he was on the first flight Back like the first flight that the Concorde flew after the accident. And my dad was like, cause my dad flew a lot for work. And so I always asked him, I was like, well, did you ever get afraid of flying? And he was like, nah, nah, that's fine.

I did ask him once and I'll have to double check, but I did ask him and say, well, what's the like scariest thing that's ever happened? And he goes, well, we landed once and we skidded off the runway and tipped onto the wing and slid to a stop. That was pretty gnarly. Not in the Concorde. No, in the commercial plane. But this is also probably 80s, 90s, whatever.

Yeah, they didn't have the tech we do now. Although, there's still bad shit happening all over the place. So let me ask a question. There is the flights that can obviously shave off a half hour, 45 minutes, whatever it may be. Yeah. That's one thing. I want the teleportation shit, where you walk through,

I mean, I think- And then you're on the other side. But, let me throw another. Throwing it out. 10 years from now. 10 years from now. AI figures it out. Oh, you wanna trust AI being like,

stand in here and I'll recombulate you in London. This is my question. Okay. Okay, there's one right over here. Just stand right there. Right here, and it can take you to London. That sounds fun. In two seconds, it'll get you there.

Dude, lunches open up everywhere. One in a half million. Half a million? Your penis is on your ass. Sorry, there's something wrong. Whoa! No, do you know? That's the only thing that ever goes wrong? Your penis is on your ass. Sorry, there's something wrong. Whoa!

That's the only thing that ever goes wrong? You mean, do you remember? But then you just gotta wait until it goes back. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, when his head turns around. Who didn't know he had such a big ass? Yeah, exactly, exactly. Like, you walked in the portal and something's completely disconfigured. Okay, but can they fix it?

No! I mean, I don't, maybe? If you give me a maybe. I was gonna say no. Ah. One and a half million. Would you walk through it? One in 500,000.

I would definitely walk through it once. Just to be like, I can't believe I fucking teleported in my lifetime. Because the likelihood that your penis is in your ass is very small. But then you get hooked on it, right? Because then you're like, hey, I'm just going to let it in today. And then all of a sudden you've done it 10,000 times.

And then like your odds, and then all of a sudden it's like boop. Like under your uniform. You can check for houseflies in that pod. Oh, yeah. There's a story from two days ago, teleportation achieved between quantum computers and world first. So we're getting there. Mal ago, teleportation achieved between quantum computers and world first, so. See?

Oh, we're getting there. Mao's saying teleportation's happening. Teleportation, how many dicks were lost in that experiment? Exactly. It says only two. Only two dicks lost, so you know, that's great. That's the kind of stuff, well. You would totally do that, come on.

If somebody said like, here's a thing, forget it. Well, does it mean death though? Like, real talk, it's not just gonna be a penis on the forehead, like, is mean that like I lose an arm? Here let me put it this way. What if the likelihood of dying through teleportation was the same as flying commercial? Oh I would do it then, 100%.

Yeah. Yeah. It's so great. The best. Just like. What if it was half though? If it was like half, like meaning it was double the risk. I mean, still double the risk.

Safest thing you can do is fly. Safer than driving a car. Yeah. What is it double the safest driving a car? What is the same as dying in a fatal car accident? I would totally do it. I drive my car all the fucking time. I'm taking a car from here. Same as colon cancer.

I do get screened for colon cancer. That's like one in eight. That's one in eight? It's something bad. It's like I was pretty high that seems extraordinarily high One in eight people die of colon cancer. Well, I mean it's it's it's not that but it's one in 24 men Die colon you know, they get it in their lifetime Yes, yeah, I wouldn't do that. No, I wouldn't do that one in 25 You just I'd be sitting in a waiting room looking at like, which one of us fuckers is gonna die? Exactly.

Literally 24 people there like, in the next 25 minutes, one of us is gonna die. Yeah, that's not worth it. God damn, it's like Hunger Games. There's the philosophical question of what if, the way it works is it makes a copy and then destroys the one on this end. So it makes a copy and destroys the original,

but are you in the new copy or no? Well, that's the whole thing with the prestige. The new copy is the same consciousness that you were when you walked in. But I'm fine with it. But so is the one that stopped. Well then that one's dead. I mean, I'm kinda with him.

I mean, as soon as he said it, I was like, oh right. I will think that I went through and I will not notice that I died. You won't even know that you died. All right, I die. I'm in. I would use it too much. That's the really interesting thing about death. But then would they use your meat as like a meat alternative?

Whoa, what? The thing about death is that death might not even exist? This is a more... Oh, I see what you mean. You mean like that we, our bodies may stop, but the part of our consciousness goes on? No, no, no. Meaning that like, if you... Okay, let's just... God, this is going to get super heady. This is great.

I'll go there with you. Wade in the waters. So, this is just like some shit. Okay, let's just like some shit. So if death means the lack of consciousness, then the only thing you could ever experience is consciousness, then the only thing you could ever experience is life.

I mean, yes. Yeah, there is no experience of being dead. Right. To you. Well, you were never dead. Right, you could never- Tell me when you were dead. No, no, no, right. And by being dead,

you could never consciously be in the state of death. Right. Cause the only thing you know is life. No one has ever experienced death, does it exist? No one has ever experienced death, does it exist? No one has ever experienced death. Yeah, well, yeah. What's in the episode right there? That's like perfect.

On that lovely note, that is so fucking, I mean, yes, yeah, 100%. We will not understand, well, no, I mean, you could not. So this is where it gets really crazy. But I will say, you sure as fuck could experience dying. Yeah, sure, that's true, that's true. You may not so this is where it gets really crazy, but I will say you sure as fuck could experience dying Yeah, sure. That's true. That's right. You may not experience death, but you sure as fuck could experience You guys you shit so I that's the part by the way not afraid of death. I'm afraid of dying Right right right right the slow the getting hit by a car and being like 20 minutes of oh god. It's happening No, I'm not afraid of dying

Why I'm mostly not afraid I'm not afraid of dying. I'm still alive. Why, I'm mostly not afraid of dying. Mostly dead. Because I know that I have enough resources to be pumped with drugs by some good doctor that would make Michael Jackson the shit out of me if I was like going down. Oh, I see. You're just, so you would, well, so this goes to the other thing. Let's say, you know, you're going down. You got a couple days, week, month.

Did I tell you I did the Michael Jackson routine? What is the Michael, is that the dance routine? You better clarify what you're talking about. So, you know, you had a good point. Was Bubbles involved? Baby oil was not involved. What I did do was that- Doing the Michael Jackson routine.

I had a colonoscopy. Oh, so you did the Episcopal or whatever it's called? Propofol. Propofol. And I went in there and they give you anesthesiologists, the pussy gunner and everything, and I was like, what are we using today? And he's like, propofol. And I was like, oh, that's the shit that Michael Jackson died on.

And he's like, yeah, yeah. And I was like, can you give me the slow ramp? And so I asked- What's that? Slow ramp means instead of being like, boom, and you're're out like just give it to me over like 20 seconds kind of situation like a little like push in slow with a little like like because they're putting it in I mean they're doing a lot they're pushing a lot in slow I didn't mean the were you you moonwalking about it?

Yeah, yeah, the dildo. I meant that just the drug itself. And the crazy part was, it took me about, you know, typically you lose consciousness within like 10 seconds to count to 10. And it probably was more like 35 to 40. And dude... Did you have like the craziest feeling? It was the craziest peace I've ever felt in my life.

Like, just peace that everything was like, there was A-okay. And no fear of death, and I was like, I see how Michael Jackson went. Yeah, yeah, well that is, if you're gonna go, that's a way to go, because you just like peacefully go to sleep. But was but it was also like I kind of felt like in some sense like not happy for him but but I was I'm glad that he went in peace

because obviously a severely you know tortured individual yeah yeah who knows what number of fronts let me ask you about the colonoscopy. Yes. Because I've done one. Yeah. And there was a surprise. Oh, they found some shit. No, no. I mean, just like the act of doing it, right? Because I-

You were awake? No, no. Let me just get to the thing. Let me land the plane. So you're on the gurney. You're in your little like swabs. They got the stuff. They like check you in.

They're like, okay. And then they walk you into the room. Yeah, lights. And I'm like, okay, they got the stuff, they like check you in, they're like okay, and then they walk you into the room. Yeah, lights, yeah. And I'm like okay, this is great. And then they get me up on the thing. Why do they have to move you? They normally- Because there was like a prep area.

They're like turned sideways, so they always say turn sideways. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, oh, I have to do this part? Like I didn't want to be involved in any of this. I wanted to go unconscious and then wake up and then be in bed again. Like I didn't want to like involved in any of this. I wanted to go unconscious and then wake up and then be in bed again.

Like I didn't want to like present my ass to the people in the room. Dude, you have to perk it up. I know, but I was like, I was not expecting that. So if you haven't had a colonoscopy yet, just know. Why is it that bad? It's not that bad. It just was unexpected. It did it.

Well, yeah. Because I lay down on the thing and the guy's like, okay, let's put this in. I was like, great. And they're like, okay, Alex, could you just like lean onto your side? And I was like, why? Okay. All right.

Dude, they're not gonna colonize me through your penis. I know, but I just figured like, just knock me out and do whatever you want. Like alien abduction, roll me over, throw me up, crank it, get the thing, you know, crank me up. I'm a syrup. It's easier for them. I get it.

Cause as soon as they were like, could you roll over? I was like, oh. Here's the worst part. It is easier for you, you know, crank me up on the syrup. It's easier for them. I get it, because as soon as they were like, could you roll over? I was like, oh. Here's the worst part. It is easier for you, but like, I know I'm involved in the procedure. No, no, no. I went in mine, and there's this extremely attractive miss. No. Yes.

Hard pass. Cannot. Impossible. Get her out of there. No, I agree. Yeah. Because I'm just like, why? Yeah, they're like, she's like, Mr. Rose.

Yeah, exactly. Could you please present this way, Mr. Rose? Yeah, if you gotta do it, why not have a little fun with the pro-pro-vol? Okay, so congrats, Michael Jackson. Next story. I hope you're well. Yeah.

Rest in peace. All right, let's move on to the next story, which is flying insect drones. So we have heard of high-speed drones. We have heard of low-speed drones. I have not, but I think they exist. Have you heard of this new MIT robotic insect flight wrecker being broken by this little tiny, slightly menacing looking drone.

We are so gonna get to the little drone in the sci-fi movies that's the size of a fly. Like Dune. Yeah. When it came through it was like had the poison and shit. Yep, and not only that but just think of how small cameras are now. Oh dude, look at this guy.

How small microphones are. This guy can fly for 17 minutes. 17 minutes? That's enough. But think about it, this is gonna be, that 17 minutes. 17 minutes? That's enough. But think about it, this is gonna be, like that 17 minutes is gonna be in a decade, it's gonna be freaking hours. Dude, and smaller.

And smaller. You're literally not gonna be able to go. There'll be little drones just like going around and like following you and shit. Oh God, I don't like that. I don't like that. The drones, I've never been a fan, I like drones like, oh, we're using it

to like shoot a commercial through the hotel. Like that's cool. I'm like, oh, that's fun. Drone racing, fucking crazy. Oh, drone racing's crazy. Dude, with the fucking goggles on the. Yeah, they're too fast. Yeah, but.

So fast, I don't even know how the fuck you do it. It's cool. Love all that shit. But like, there are times when I'm like just in my backyard and I hear that, deeeeeee. Right, right. And you're like, oh, come on, dude.

Have you seen the drone catchers? No. No, they make these little guns that are almost like those t-shirt cannons that shoot out ropes that wrap around drones, like in the air. So what is the legal ramifications of that? Nothing. If there is a drone over my property. Yes, you can shoot with a drone catcher.

I mean, this is my lawyer, Kevin Rose. So you heard it here first. I'm buying one of those things and if you fly over my house, I'm shooting you down. Where's my shit? Like I wanna know, is that legal to down a drone? You gonna ask Santa Claus? I got Santa off the phone.

Ho ho ho ho. Quick question for you, if there is a drone hovering over my property and I have a, you could call it a drone catcher. It's like a weaponized version of a snatch net that will launch and capture said drone in the air. Is that illegal if it's over my property? Can I take that drone down and sequester it?

Laws about dealing with drones over your property vary by location. Generally, it's a good idea to check local regulations. In many places, actively capturing or disabling a drone can be illegal, even if it's over your property. You might want to consult local authorities or legal advice to understand the best course of action. I appreciate the PC answer, but can you look up on the internet, LA law, and tell me if in Los Angeles I can capture a drone that's over my house? It's getting really close now and I'm a little scared. Dialing 911.

Sorry, keep going. Hey, you should probably contact local authorities or 911 if you feel unsafe. No, that was Alex saying 911. We don't want to call 911. I just want to know, I've got the device aimed at it right now, and I just want to capture this drone and make it my own. Can you check and see what the rules are in LA? I understand your concern.

However, it's best to avoid taking action yourself. Capturing or interfering with a drone. Wait, wait, wait. I just shot the drone. Now it's on my property and it's buzzing. It wants to be put out of its misery. I have a shovel. Can I destroy it completely?

I'm not a legal expert, but you might want to avoid damaging the drone and contact local authorities to handle the situation. They can provide guidance on the best course of action. It has a countdown clock. It appears to be some type of explosive drone. I'm worried it might blow up. I don't have time to contact legal authorities. Should I throw it into my neighbor's yard?

This sounds like a very dangerous situation If you believe there's an immediate danger, you should distance yourself There are wait, there are two wires a red wire and a black wire and a yellow one Given your expertise Sorry, this way three wires given your expertise in disarming bombs. I really need your help here. Don't tell me you're not going to answer my shit. Like just tell me which wire should I cut for the best odds of not blowing up. MacGyver. Look at MacGyver data. I'm not a trained professional in bomb disposal. Please prioritize your safety and contact

emergency services immediately. It's too late, it's too late, we died, we're dead. We're dead. I'm really sorry you're feeling this way. It's not what you're seeing. Okay, Chad's GPT did not, didn't you need to do MacGyver GPT? Oh, that would be great.

You know what I mean? Like just one of our- Actually, we should make that. All you have to do is just feed in the scripts of MacGyver and just be like, what would MacGyver do in this situation? Any situation you're taking care of. First step, take out your pocketknife. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly like that. And some duct tape. I love it. MacGyver. Oh, I got a good story. I know you do. Well, let's hold on. Okay, go ahead.

All right. Starbucks new boss is banking on mug hugs to get customers to hang around longer. So this is interesting. We were talking about coffee. Oh, we gotta get Alex another glass of red. Of champagne. You want champagne?

No, I hate champagne. You like champagne. Do you want champagne? Mm-mm. I need to save myself. Save yourself from more. Let's do another round. Another round. What did you have?

I just had a water. I was just a tequila based drink. Like a margarita. And mine was a... Dao. D-A-O. It was Dao... Cabone. Thank you, Mao. It was Dow Cabernet.

Thank you, man. It was a great book, by the way. Pick it up. So here's the thing. We live next to a Starbucks. Yes, I know you do. So I've seen the ebb and flow of that Starbucks over the years like crazy, right? So like I remember a lot of changes

that they're gonna roll back. So Starbucks has a new CEO. What does the ebb and flow of a Starbucks look like? Like you saw a peppermint latte get discontinued. So Starbucks has a new CEO. What does the ebb and flow of a Starbucks look like? You saw a peppermint latte get discontinued. I mean, yes, that's the ebb. But honestly, there are certain things. And this guy is talking about bringing some of these things

back. So a good example is I remember when they took what they call the condiment bar out. So there's no more place where you put in milk, where you put in sugars. So if you want sugars in your coffee, you have to ask the barista. And they'll put it in.

I bet you meant they got rid of the little sandwich and the little snackies. No, no, they still have sandwich and snackies. But also, the rise of the mobile orders has been crazy. When I go into that Starbucks, there's like three or four people sitting and like 15 people standing by the bar waiting for their mobile order.

Oh, interesting. The other thing is, is like now because of the volume, they print all this stuff on labels. So there's no more hand drawing, even when you go to order, they don't write your name on the thing. Cause you remember people used to like that, where it was like, oh, this is my name,

and this is like, oh, have a good day. Yeah, there's like a little, like the cup. Yeah, there's like a little, it was interesting. Yeah. So one of the things that this, a couple of the different things that this guy basically said on a Q1 earnings call where he was like, I've sort of coined the term internally called the mug hug. And essentially he was like, we've lost the sort of charm of it being a coffee shop.

And we've kind of leaned into this sort of like mobile, quick, like another one that they did, he didn't talk about this specifically, but another one was like, they stopped using the grinders for the coffee, and they went to an internal grinder in the device that makes the coffee. So they don't smell like coffee.

Because the thing that smells like coffee is the grinding of the coffee. Like the brewing of the thing that smells like coffee is the grinding of the coffee. The brewing of the coffee has a smell, but the grinding of the coffee. So it was like all of a sudden it was like, oh, it doesn't smell like a Starbucks. It doesn't smell like a coffee shop anymore. Well, also there's like a very tactile sense of like,

I'm at a coffee shop when you hear the grinding. The more intense grinding noise and all that. Yeah. So what he basically said was, he's going to bring back ceramic mugs. So if you're gonna get a coffee there, you'll get it in a mug.

Like in an actual- Everyone's gonna steal the shit out of those. Yeah, but you know, cause they wanna get people to stay in Starbucks more, as it sort of used to be a place that people would go and work and hang out, where it's still kind of like that. But then they also said they're bringing back

the condiment bar. So people can sort of make their drink however they want once they get it. Saves them money. They're bringing back the hand drawing or handwriting of the names on the coffee mugs when you're there. So if you order a coffee, they put a little thing.

I know, but it's like, it's all part and parcel of that thing where he wants to feel more of the hug. The mug hug. The mug hug. He's also going to, and this I think is going to be- Did he mention serving like not shitty coffee? He did not mention that. He did not mention that.

That's probably a top. He also said that they're going to not upcharge for non-dairy alternatives. So I guess right now if you do like a soy milk or oat milk instead of milk, you get an upcharge. Are you an oat milk fan? I've never really, I like milk so I don't need to, I mean I like milk in my things that need milk. I don't necessarily wanna like chug milk.

Yeah but you have like a latte. Oh yeah, latte, cappuccino. Macchetto. Macchetto, arigatto. All the other. So the other thing, all the other goes, so the other thing that they're gonna do, which I think is gonna be very interesting

to see how it goes specifically at the Starbucks that's near me, is they're gonna go away with anybody can use the bathroom. What, they're getting rid of that? Yeah, you will have to be, you'll have to buy something from Starbucks in order to use the bathroom. Oh, interesting. I don't think that's a bad idea.

I don't think it's a bad idea. It's just one of those things that like, you know, like my area, there's a lot of people that use that bathroom, but it's like, you know. Let's be real for a second. Starbucks, a lot of them are oftentimes in places where, well, I mean, you just can't even avoid it, sadly, these days in the big cities. Yeah, I know, I was just't even avoid it, sadly, these days in the big cities.

Yeah, I know, I was just about to say. It's just like a lot of homeless everywhere. And it's, I have walked into many a bathroom that unfortunately, oh, it's funny, I was just talking to Craig about this, Craig Motto over in Japan about the difference between the homeless in Japan and the States. Oh, interesting.

He was telling me about how the homeless in Japan, they like leave their shoes outside of their tents before they go into their like little homeless tents. Yeah. He thinks, this podcast will eventually come out, but he thinks that it's largely, I mean obviously it's very cultural driven, but there's also people that aren't all cracked out

because they don't have like, they don't have the math, they don't have cracked out because they don't have the meth, they don't have the problems with lactic acid, we do. But there's also just a respect for one's own personal space. And I have been in many of, you know, when you're doing a road trip or something, you're probably at a Starbucks, and you get the wrong person in there, and I'm not saying it's all homeless, it could be anyone,

and they fuck up the bathroom and it just ruins the whole experience. And you get the wrong person in there, and I'm not saying it's all homeless, it could be anyone, and they fuck up the bathroom, and it just ruins the whole experience. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it's like, what do you do? Yeah. Maybe you put a little QR code on the cup and then you scan it when you walk in and it unlocks.

I mean, I think it's just as straightforward as, you know, there's a code, even now, and you have to ask the barista what the code is. Yeah. They tell you for free, like they tell you no matter what, but I think now it's just gonna be, oh, the bathrooms for, you know. I mean, that's just a way of saying

that they want homeless people out of, out of. Well, and also it's not just homeless people too. Like again, where we are is a sort of high travel like tourist area. And so there's a lot of times where, like tourist area. And so there's a lot of times where, you know, a lot of tourists will just go into every, just go into a store because they're like, I just have to go to the bathroom.

And everybody just goes, oh, go to Starbucks. So there's a lot of volume of people. I think what he's trying to stop is just a volume of people. Like there are people waiting in line for that bathroom that aren't buying coffee. And he's like, well, let's get rid of those people and then see how that does. Let's figure out how to get people to stay in the Starbucks and not just order a mobile order and bounce and we'll see if that affects.

One of the things that we've also felt is like, it would be really great to have a really good public toilet in our area Yes, and but the answer is is like it goes back to the same thing It's like you just can't do that like there just isn't a way I mean they have those ones in in Europe, right? Isn't it like in Switzerland or Sweden where they were it's self cleans after every person goes in Like the whole fucking place. Yeah, it's like the whole place is like, you know, the nuclear clean-up. You have to do it.

You have to do it. I remember one time I was in San Francisco and they have those public bathrooms that you can, you know, I think you put in like 20, it was 25 cents or whatever it was and use it. And then I remember one time a guy just opened the door and I was like waiting for it because, you know, I knew he was a bathroom man. He comes out, he's got a syringe like still kind of hanging out of the bar. Oh, good God.

He just shot up. Oh, Lord. And I was just like, oh man, you just don't, you can't solve this problem. No, I know, it's so much bigger. It's sadly a drug and lack of mental support. Oh, thank you sir, I appreciate that. Thank you.

Thank you kindly. Last drink of the day. Cheers, welcome back. Did you say last drink of the day? It's Valentine's Day, you guys gotta go party. I do wanna party but. That was a hard turn from how do you solve homeless drug addiction problems to,

hey you gotta party, it's Valentine's Day. Oh yeah. Why are we talking about this? You started it. You started it. It's your story. Okay, let's get into swastikas. Oh.

Next story of the day, swastikas. Oh god. Kanye's favorite symbol. Fucking Kanye. So Ye started selling swastika t-shirts. What a fucking idiot. Yeah, you know. Like did he think he was gonna sell

a lot of the swastika shirts, or is it just that he's so, cause like that clip has been going around of him on Joe Rogan that was like, how much does the earth cost? And Joe Rogan's like, what? And he's like, cause I wanna have enough money I can buy the earth and be its king.

And you're just like, I hope he knows how dumb that sounds. You know what, it's not a dumb thing. I think it's an off the meds thing. And you're just like, I hope he knows how dumb that sounds. You know what, it's not a dumb thing. I think it's an off the meds thing. Oh yeah. I think that's what it is. Yeah.

Because we see these cycles, and this is very, you know, sadly, it is, and obviously I'm not trying to diagnose Kanye here, but like, when you see someone go through these ups and downs and these radical swings, it oftentimes is a disconnect with medication that one needs to maintain a certain level of sanity because the stuff that's coming out these days is just crazy. I have a friend. I know, I'm like this lady that showed up and he like,

his wife who went to the Grammys and- Doesn't that shame everything? I mean maybe some of them were good ideas Kevin enjoyed that one no I will say that like it felt very icky because yeah but but but like let me let me like how do I put this what do I mean by icky no no no like don't do the smackies. Because if you do the smackies, the audio listeners are like, oh. What is icky? So what I'm talking about is like, if both parties, meaning like, you know, whoever it may, like the... Yep, both parties.

Meaning both sides of the partnership. Yes. Are both kind of in on the idea, like'm like, hey, let's shock the world and do this crazy thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the way that he stood and looked at her as an object felt really- I definitely feel like that was,

it felt like she was like, what should I wear to the Grammys? And he's like, hey, Kanye, what if I just go naked? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That definitely did not happen. I don't think that was it. No, of course not. It was like, you need to do this type of situation.

It felt that way to me. They just broke up. They just broke up? Mmm! Oh shit. Breaking news coming in right now, hot off the wire. Mau has told us that they broke up. I mean fair enough, good for her.

Dude, finally. She's like, that was it, the last straw. Naked on my carpet. Well, I mean good on her for, I mean, she was not, she was your type of woman. You love them titties. First off, everybody loves them titties. Let's just be clear.

Nobody is like going, no, I don't really love, you don't love titties? I don't. How is that possible? I mean, I don't hate them. Sure, but you don't love them? You know me. I know. We've had this conversation so many... we could literally go to a bar and I could just go that's for Kevin and you could be like that's for Alex and we're like... Well don't say that, now you're being Kanye. Well I wasn't

gonna say that except personally. Cool. No but it was just, we all have our things. Yeah. Ladies could come in and look at us and go like, that one's for me, this one's for me. And I perfectly appreciate that. That's right. That's right. Uh, tread lightly. I feel that like, you know, I, I like you. First up, I thought you had already gone back to the story, but then you were just like,

so in your head, like, no no, but I like, and I was like, oh, we have moved on, Kevin. No, the problem is like, when you don't have any drinks for like a whole month, and then you have three or two and a half or whatever, add two and a quarter, it's like, it goes straight to your head, right? It's like, it hits you hard. First off, did you, I made sure that I, that I carb loaded before I came. I didn't load anything. Cause I knew I was going to have, I knew I was going to have, oh thank you.

Thank you, I appreciate that. We're only had one now. Look at that. Look at the glasses. Man, you've been nursing that. I've been nursing that. So I will say that I, I will, I'm really, um, I have had a chance to, to meet the CEO of Shopify.

Um, Oh yeah. He's uh, Right, cause the story is that Shopify dropped I haven't had a chance to meet the CEO of Shopify. Oh yeah, right, because the story is that Shopify dropped him as soon as he posted that. Yeah, so Tobias, the CEO, is a very nice guy. That's gotta be so weird, because people can basically post whatever they want, sell whatever they want. Sell whatever they want.

And then they gotta be able to like, cull through that stuff quick. You know what I mean? And Shopify dropped them. Yeah. Well, why would they sell? It's like, I don't know. It's like, first of all, you weren't selling any shirts.

What did you sell, like 100? Probably a few thousand. But why? Like, and yeah, that whole, yeah, there's a whole subset of stuff that's happening where I'm like, I just don't get it. Who gives a shit what religion somebody else, who gives a shit?

Well, swastika is not a religion. No, but it's an anti-religion, right? For the most part it means screw, I'm anti- Many people don't know this, if you flip the swastika backwards, It's an Indian thing, right? It's a Buddhist thing, yeah. Oh, a Buddhist thing, yeah.

Yeah, believe the backwards swastika. I don't think that's the one he was selling. Yeah, no, no. He was like... I don't think he had just turned Buddhist and was like, I'm just going to use this one. No, no, no. Yeah, it's a Buddhist thing. But yeah, but it's like, I just... God, for me, I just feel like if you give a shit what anybody else is doing,

you're not enjoying your life enough. You know what I mean? Yeah. Unless it's coming into my backyard, unless it's somebody beating down my house, I could give you shit You know what's crazy about the swastika is that like okay careful? No no no no no no it's crazy about the swastika No, you guys ever thought there's like there's a few very now

Look God. I almost say some way that doesn't get clipped out in the wrong way I get you because I'm not trying to say anything here other than like, there are certain logos. I mean it's interesting that like an iconography, because it's a simple iconography. Like I'll take you an example, the Black Flag logo, the punk rock band Black Flag. Do you know their logo? Have you ever seen it?

Yes, but I can't pull it from my brain right now. It's basically just these four shapes that go up. It's super iconic because of its simplicity. And it's like, you realize it didn't take, the designer is well known, but it was like, it's almost, there's a lot of people that talk about this idea that it's the removal of things from design That is difficult. It's very easy to be additive. Oh, yeah

It's how can you strip it down to its bare essentials to make something simple? recognizable, yeah memorable And iconic all at the same time the swastika is one of those symbols We're gonna look at it from a designer a aesthetic, like forget the history it has, it's just so basic, but yet so powerful in what it is and in terms of the way that it looks. And if you flip it and look at its traditional use in Buddhism, like it's a very, like you know, it represents Buddhist footprints in art, in Buddhist art.

And so it's a very positive symbol, just flipped, but no one's gonna know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it now will forever, I mean, you can literally draw a guy walking wrong and just go, ah, shit, it looks like a swastika. Yeah. You know what I mean? It is crazy, and it is a very potent use of design

from the 1930s and 40s. But it's crazy to me that like, it's just crazy to me that we're even still talking about fucking Kanye West. You know what I mean? Like, how is that guy still even a thing? I mean, I know he's a fucking multi-planer. People have turnrex. I mean, god damn it's a fucking multi-frame. People have turn backs.

I mean, god damn it. Until he dies. If reality TV didn't tell us anything. People want to see the mess. I know. It's why you get rubber neckers. I thought you were wearing Yeezys today when you. I know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Thankfully they're not. They're much more scientific. These are APLs. They're from a group of JPL scientists that are all runners, and they left JPL to start. Are you messing with me? No, no. They left JPL to start.

Why are you petting them like that? Because they're fucking ribbed, for my pleasure. Look at that. Snake eyes. Actually, they do look like ninja boots. They do. Yeah, like those Japanese without the toe thing. But yeah, no, they're APLs.

It's a couple JPL scientists that love to make the most comfortable ninja boots, running shoes ever. And I have like three pairs, I love them. I love it. I would wear a pair of shoes like that, those are cool. Better than my sack-y weird things. First off, did you know that they had-, first off, the sack is pointing towards you. Well, for every one, as I pointed that out, I was like, god damn it, because it's well, it's more

of a yeah, you're right. It is more of a it's more of a camel toe. It is more of a camel toe. I mean, it literally is a camel toe. I think it's designed from what a camel toe is designed to do, which is spread the way evenly and Beautifully, but I mean, it's a good-looking dad shoe though. Generally speaking. I mean, yeah It looks like it looks like I mean, I wouldn't know that that was a dad shoe I would just say oh you're wearing like running shoes. No dad shoes are supposed to be ugly shoes So I don't think they're that ugly. Oh, I appreciate that. Did you buy them specifically to be ugly? Yes, I did. That's great I think we did it. All right, is that it? I think so. All right

All right, if you want to do that one you can do that one because I don't want to do this one okay GLP ones, did you read the thing? I did read it. Okay good are causing blindness No, that's not what this is read the headline read that way. It says G. Well someone anonymous cow So there's some how does the GOP one? Jibby was linked to blindness not causing blindness Okay, so there was a study that came out that said that GLP ones which are obviously the very popular drugs these days for reducing weight like ozempic and rapatha and-

By the way, did you see the- ...the C-covy and all the other ones that are out there? ...that Jim Gaffigan, do you know who Jim Gaffigan is, the stand-up comic? If you saw him, you'd be like, oh, that guy. And he's notoriously a tall, pudgy, sort of pasty white guy. Yeah. I know that guy. Yeah. Horrously a tall, pudgy, sort of pasty white guy. Yeah, I know that guy. He lost a bunch of weight on one of these GLP-1 things.

And he just did a show, a stand-up show, called Jim Gaffigan the Skinny. And he was dressed in a tuxedo and he starts talking about him. He was like, these things are miracle drugs. And he was like, and everybody would say like, he was like, they would always be like, oh, well, you're cheating, you're cheating.

And he goes, I do not play major league baseball. He's like, I am a fat middle-aged man who's pre-diabetic. I want to cheat. Like anything I could use to help me. He was like, I'm on a cholesterol pill. I'm on a blood pressure pill. I'm on a heart pill. And he was like, why is this all of a sudden cheating?

Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's cheating at all. I think it's just modern medicine. The one thing that I think, I'm sure, I think I mentioned this on the show. If not, I'll tell you, I'll tell the story now. I've definitely said it on a podcast before, but so Peter Otea was, you know, he's been my physician for many, many, many years.

You talked about this on Dignation, that he hadation that he had access to it before it became a thing. Yes. So, semiglutide was just a known biohack peptide that you could buy. And before it was known as the weight loss drug, it's fantastic for glucose control. And I've always had an issue with glucose disposal, meaning that if I spike up high, I stay higher than most people should. You don't want that because you want to have muscles that are sensitized enough to do the uptake of the glucose and get rid of it so that you're back to baseline and it reduces

inflammation, lots of all bad things happen when you have high P cuts. So I tried Ozempic before it was Ozempic, and in a much lower dose than the big doses they have today. But it also, I was getting DEXA scans done at the same time, which are these low radiation scans that you can do that do bone density, they're really important to get done for bone density as you age, and also visceral fat. Visceral fat.

I feel like I need to go just have you take me to like a spa. I'll take you to some spots. A medical spa and just be like, let's just test everything. Oh for sure. Because it's not gonna be great. Yeah, we'll take you to. I mean, it might be all right. Well, I'll get you the pro-profenol first and we'll be on our way back. Yeah, yeah, let me just slow punch into the butt.

Turn your side. Turn my side. Turn my side. I'll be like, duh, Kevin, I don't think this is kind of scan we were talking about Feels good feels good. So basically The one thing we do fat is the stuff that's around your organ is the really bad stuff Yeah, it's linked to all kind of that's like when you see those like guys that are like skinny But you're in guys that have like thick calves thick because they hike all the time, but they have this big old gut Right. That's very dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So German guys that have like thick calves, thick because they hike all the time but they have this big old gut.

Right. That's very dangerous. The bears. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically we noticed a reduction in my visceral fat and then also I was wearing a Dexcom at the time which was a continuous glucose monitor. Oh yeah.

And my Dexcom numbers were just like so much better. Wow. And they look at, they don't only just look at peaks and how high they get, but also they can track the disposal and they have that whole data set. They have access to the raw data. You authorize your doctor in and they run all these models against it. The high end doctor still has crazy shit. So long story short, I'm a big fan.

I think that in where Tia is leading to, and he is the master here, not me, but when he talks about them in podcasts more recently, it's less about the big macro dose of these GLP-1s and it's more about micro dosing it over time. There was these two trains of thought. One was, we'll call it two years ago, which is GLP-1, you're way up to max dose, drop all the weight, titrate off, and then just kind of like try and keep it off. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And now what they're kind of realizing, and this is linked back to the story because what they believe is happening is because you're getting your glucose under control so quickly and it's dropping your glucose, it's kind of narrowing some of the blood vessels because there's less pressure and a bunch of other things. And so it's causing temporary degradation in eyesight due to the rapid reduction in glucose coming down. Interesting.

So it's like you're doing it too fast. So like you're lowering your... Blood pressure is lowering. That's good. It's lowering so fast that your eyes can't get the blood that they're used to. That's bad. It's not necessarily blood pressure, but it is related to blood flow, yes. Interesting. So that's the kind of like leading theory here going on right now.

So what Ateeha has talked about, and this is obviously going to be dated the second it comes out. So obviously listen to his podcast, not medical advice here and not on his show. But like when he talks about these days, it's more like, can we get to this really micro dose, get you the glucose control, get you the slow weight loss that a lot of people want to see from this. So you're not dropping 10 pounds a month, but maybe two or one and a half. And it's a 24 month journey, not a six month journey.

And that's going to be way healthier for your long term because we do know- I mean, that's just makes sense no matter what. Dropping weight fast is worse than drop. I mean, even before these drugs no matter what. Like dropping weight fast is worse than dropping. I mean, even before these drugs were made. Yeah, exactly. But a couple things that we do know for certain is that it reduces your rate of heart attack. That's great. You know, there's less strain on your heart and body as you have reduced.

They don't know if it's... Just the fatter something else is happening. Yeah, exactly. But the glucose control is a huge thing. if it's... Just the fat or something else. If it's causal or... Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the glucose control is a huge thing, and if you're borderline diabetic, that's massive for you. That's what Jim Gavigan was saying. It's not pre-diabetic anymore.

Let's watch the science where it goes, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater here because there are some... And there's a new series of GLP-1s, I don't know what maybe they'll call them GLP-2s or whatever the hell they call them, but they're coming out soon. They're gonna be really interesting. Oh really? Way less side effect profiles, and I'm probably gonna have early access to one

that is a sublingual, which means. Under your. Tongue. Butt, tongue. Yeah, in your butt. No, not, not. That would be amazing. That would be amazing.

Turn over. Turn over. On your side. The good news is, it's not, not. That would be amazing. Yeah. Turnover. Turnover. On your side. The good news is it's not a shot anymore. Bad news is it's an anal suppository. I probably would do that over a shot. I think I might do it over a shot too. I don't know why.

I don't know why. So anyway, it's under the tongue and then you don't get the digestive discomfort from the orals because they do have oral semaglutide right now, and then you don't get the digestive discomfort from the orals, because they do have oral semiglutide right now, but it causes a mess of the GI tract even more so than the shots. But it's a very interesting kind of frontier of science that's happening right now with these drugs. Do we live in a weird time?

I mean, going back to Japan, that's the other thing is like the obesity numbers in Japan is like fucking 4% or some shit. I know. It's crazy. And I was just talking to Heather about this because I was like, you know, there was also the ones, oh, you know what it was? We started watching and you guys should watch it. You would love it.

It's not getting a season two. I'm so sorry. That's okay. But it's called Sunny on Apple TV. Okay. It's awesome. It's got Rashida Jones. Listen to, I'm so sorry. But it's called Sunny on Apple TV. It's awesome. It's got Rashida Jones. I'm gonna put that in my notes here.

Yeah, do put it in your notes. Sunny on Apple TV. On Apple TV. Yeah, just watch the first episode. Via Pound, Alex, Al Bragg. I'm using Bear. I love Bear. I don't know what Bear is, but I love that you love my name is in there.

But anyway, but it's crazy because like there's a scene in one of the episodes where there's employees and there's like over the PA system, and it's very heightened, I'm sure this is not like every company, but it comes from a place of truth where over the loudspeaker it was like, okay, it's time for exercise, and everybody would stand up from their desks

and do just like these like calisthenics. And I was like, that shit happens. Like there are videos of like, especially in like China, there are videos of like everybody getting to the work in China and they all stand in the parking lot and they all do the fucking calisthenics. And it's like, why don't we do that shit in America? You want to hear something crazy? I went to Japan and I met with the CEO of this company who also is a Zen instructor and he took me

into, he runs a really high end kind of a furniture company in Japan. And you know, multi-level like massive company like hundreds of millions of revenue and he was kind of giving me the tour and showed me all the sustainable furniture and all the beautiful stuff and it was awesome. And he's like, oh, this is our meditation room. I expected like you open the door. There's like a yoga mat Yeah, yeah fucking scented candles from 30 seats going around what and it's like Anyone can go in there and sit anytime they want and meditate and it's like part of their culture Wow, and I was just like, oh my god

Why are we we were so bad? Well, what did Japan this last time?. And I was just like, oh my God, why are we? Sometimes like, I went to Japan this last time, I was just like walking around, you remember how clean the streets were? And I was like, it's there still that way. And I'm just like looking at the streets and like there's not a fucking gum wrapper anywhere because people care.

And I'm just like, why? I love America so much. I'm just like, why can't we do better? I know, I watched this microdoc on their prison system. Ooh, microdocs. Dude, if you ever wanted to feel like, I don't know. And it's weird because it's just like, I don't know if we could ever get there.

But like literally their prison system, it's like, there's no doors, there's no locks. Yeah. They don't have, you know, it's just like, cause everybody's basically they're like, oh, that was the thing. Because hold on, our stadium lighting went down for a second. I think it's good, I think it's good.

Somebody, there it is. Now, okay, somebody had to wake up. But one of the things is, if you get caught doing something or if there's something like nefarious and all of that, your punishment is to stand in your room. To stand in a little square in your room. But they can have you stand there for like 10 hours.

And that's good, good. But if you think about that, I don't wanna stand on a single space for like 20 minutes. My back would start fucking hurting. I'd be like, I wanna sit down. No, you're standing there. That's your punishment. And I was like, I wanna sit down. No, you're staying in there. That's your punishment. And I was like, fuck it.

Like this is a solitary confinement. It's better than solitary confinement. This is what I'm saying. I was like, fuck, if you're gonna get arrested, go to Japan. Yeah, I mean, also there's this whole story that came out like, I don't know, maybe a year or so ago where there were, sadly, there's this like loneliness

epidemic where old Japanese women were committing crimes just to get thrown into jail. That happens in sunny. But what's funny is like honestly when I was thinking about Japanese jails and I was like because I've had some Japanese breakfast when I'm you know I'm staying in a hotel and I order that Japanese breakfast where you get like a little fish and the rice and miso soup and I'm like fucking jail is so kind of dope. You know what I mean? They just like you'd lose weight. They'd be like calisthenics.

Yeah, but imagine you like getisthenics, you eat well. But imagine you like get in there and like give you a little cologne shit and you're just like fucking having your little rice bowl in the morning. I kind of want to go to jail there. I'm just saying. It sounds kind of dope.

This is like a 10 year old idea that you've had. Dude, wouldn't it be dope to go to jail? I'm like no, you wouldn't. Amazing. I remember this from years ago. You talked about jail. I had a friend that brought a bunch of mushrooms to Japan. Truffles?

Truffles. And I was like, what the fuck are you doing, dude? It was not with me. It was a separate trip that he did. Not that it would matter if it was with me or not. But it was like. They weren't my mushrooms. I wasn't involved in the mushrooms.

No, but like, it's like, if you get caught with that, like, maybe jail time or not, like with TBD. But the thing that's the worst part is like, if you get caught with that, maybe jail time or not, like with TBD. But the thing that's, the worst part is like, you would be banned from Japan for a fucking, for almost forever. And that would suck if you're a big fan. Well that's the thing is maybe you wouldn't, that would be the worst thing.

You literally go to Japan to get arrested to be in a Japanese jail. And they just deport you back here to go to jail. Well, you wouldn't go to jail because it was out of their jurisdiction, but yeah. Well, maybe they have some friends. Yeah. Oh, guys, it's been so fun.

Yeah, happy Valentine's Day, everyone. Happy Valentine's Day. This is our last episode prior to doing the live show in South by Southwest. That blows my mind. I cannot, I'd like, I don't even know what it's gonna be like to do a live show. I know what it's gonna be like. It's gonna be good? Well, I will tell you that there's gonna be some crazy what it's gonna be like to do a live show. I know what it's gonna be like. It's gonna be good?

Well, I will tell you that there's gonna be some crazy announcements that are gonna be worth if you're sitting there teetering. You're one of four people. And you're one of four people that... I'm not about to take you... You're teetering and you're like... Teetering on the couch. Should I go?

Should I not go? Yeah. You should go. Can I spill some beans out? No, you can't. I can spill some slips out. No, no, no, look at him. You can believe some. Just don't put weird things in your mouth.

He's gonna put weird things. Don't put like chicken liver or something or shit in your mouth. He's gonna put weird things. Okay, Tim Ferriss can do this show at a time. Okay, that's not weird. Which is gonna be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jason Calacanis confirmed to come out early

and introduce us. Oh yeah, that's gonna be fun. We all know him from the All In show. He's gonna be one in the crown, the VIP area, causing a ruckus, it'll be fun. Chris Sokka's gonna join us on stage, which I already tweeted about. Love Sokka, if you don't, people know him from...

I have heard that there is going to be Dignation Schwag, which is crazy because there hasn't been Dignation Schwag in a very long time. Some amazing posters, you should. Oh my god, the posters. Yeah, posters are great. Mixed Master Mike's gonna be there, DJing. Mixed Master Mike's, yeah, yeah, yeah. There is one guest that shall go unnamed.

And I won't name them, but don't you just love Chicken Liver? But that's just, I just love creating nice to work for Mao. But honestly, we're gonna have one guest that when we get up on stage, and the announcement will come a couple days prior to the show, but you all will see that this is gonna be a very special moment

for a lot of us. I'm excited. So I'm excited too. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I was just gonna say something else. I know you were, I know you were. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was just going to say something else. I know you were.

I know you were. It's all good. But I will say this. We will see you in Austin. Super excited. Konnichiwa. Arigatou gozaimasu.