Digital Social Hour - $100K/Month Instagram Secret GONE: Millionaire's New Move | Jason Stone DSH #989
Episode Date: December 17, 2024$100K/Month Instagram Secret GONE: Millionaire's New Move 💰📈 Jason Stone's $100K/month Instagram empire vanished overnight! 😱 But this millionaire mentor isn't backing down. Discover his sho...cking pivot into algorithmic trading that's yielding 10% monthly returns! 🤯 Tune in as Jason spills the tea on: • Why his 10M follower Instagram got disabled 📵 • His bold claim about Bitcoin's future 🚫 • The forex algorithm making $80K+ per month 💸 • His unexpected jiu-jitsu passion and business venture 🥋 Don't miss out on this eye-opening conversation packed with valuable insights! Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly. 🎙️ Join the conversation and learn how Jason's turning setbacks into comebacks. From social media mogul to algorithmic trading guru, his journey will inspire you to adapt and thrive! 🚀 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more game-changing stories on Digital Social Hour! 🔔 #DigitalSocialHour #SeanKelly #JasonStone #AlgorithmicTrading #EntrepreneurshipTips #socialmediamanager #socialmediamarketing #inboundmarketing #instagramthemepage #digitalmarketing CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:25 - Jason’s Instagram Disabled 04:20 - Sponsored by BetterHelp 05:00 - Jason’s Business Venture: Effing Capital 09:42 - Understanding Drawdown Ratios 11:18 - Exploring Velocity Filters 13:18 - Future of Cryptocurrency 16:04 - Turning Algorithms into Funds 18:23 - E-commerce Profit Margins 21:25 - Jiu Jitsu Insights 25:13 - Opening a Jiu Jitsu Gym 27:40 - Jiu Jitsu in Street Fights 29:01 - Connect with Jason APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Jason Stone https://www.instagram.com/jason__stone/ https://www.instagram.com/millionaire_mentor SPONSORS: BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.com/DSH LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Yeah, B-rolls, I think even on YouTube,
you're not allowed to use more than like 10 seconds
of actual footage.
Like you're supposed to have at least 50%,
I'm not sure of the ratio,
but like a certain percentage of it. and that's why people are doing half
the screen is the video and half the screen is like the commentary but if
you have the whole video playing for more than 10 seconds it's it could be
you know
all right guys got someone I've known for damn eight nine years now Tristan
Stone thanks for coming on man. Thanks for having me
Yeah, dude. It's been cool to see your growth on social media and in real life like you've been killing it
Yeah, likewise with your podcast. You've been killing it
I mean, I was just telling you before this podcast started like I don't know how you bang out so many
Episodes a lot dude, but content is king and you know this running huge Instagram pages, you know exactly you're posting what like four times a day
On the million one the million measures actually disabled right now first time in ten years cheese sucks. What did you post? Well?
Like maybe seven eight copyright violations over the last couple years, but I never monitored that email
So I never thought anything about it or never looked at those and took them seriously like oh I'm the millionaire mentor
I got legacy verified, 10 million.
I'm never gonna get disabled, but it happens.
And now.
Damn, a copyright?
Yeah.
So was it just footage you didn't own, I guess?
It's just reels.
There's businesses that are built
just to go after people that post their copyrighted work.
And businesses will take a viral video,
copyright it for five bucks,
and then go after whoever posted.
Wow.
Like a whole business is built just around that.
That's crazy.
It is.
So I got to be careful.
Yeah.
I got to tell my team, because we use a lot of B-roll
in our footage, in our clips.
Yeah, B-rolls, I think even on YouTube,
you're not allowed to use more than like 10 seconds
of actual footage, full screen.
Like you're supposed to have at least 50%,
I'm not sure of the ratio,
but like a certain percentage of it has to be editable.
And that's why people are doing half the screen is the video
and half the screen is like the commentary.
Yeah, I've seen that gameplay.
Yeah, you're allowed to do that,
but if you have the whole video playing
for more than 10 seconds, it could be, you know.
Damn, strike.
So that guy just is trying to get you for money basically. Well, there's be, you know. Damn. Striked.
So that guy just is trying to get you for money, basically?
Well, there's multiple, yeah, there's multiple companies
that have posted strikes against the account.
Holy crap, hope you get it back, man.
Yeah.
That was your bread and butter.
Maybe you know somebody.
I'll try.
I've been dealing with a lot of knuckleheads
that say they can get it back.
Oh yeah, I've dealt with those,
but it sounds like that's more between you
and the copyright person than Instagram itself.
Well, these people tell me,
oh, we'll take all the copyright strikes off, don't worry about
it. So from what I've heard is when that happens they ask you for money. Have they
approached you? So if I would have dealt with these strikes as they happen over
the years, paid them a thousand bucks or whatever they wanted, 1,500 bucks, I would
have been fine. But things I never thought about, I never kept up with that
email because it's like a secretive email I keep to the side for that
Instagram account.
So you don't get hacked.
And I didn't think anything up it.
And I never saw them.
I never saw them all come through.
But I wish, in hindsight, I wish it would have just paid them off.
Yeah.
And we would have been cool.
Damn.
But I'm ready to pay 30, 40 grand to whoever can get it back.
Yeah.
If you're out there.
If you're watching this, because that page was cash flowing, man.
It is.
It sucks that income stream.
Yeah, because how much was it doing at the peak?
I mean, we do anywhere from 50 to a hundred thousand
dollars a month for the last 10 years.
Damn.
Yeah.
A month?
A month.
Off one Instagram page?
Just selling shout outs.
Dude.
That doesn't even count the affiliate marketing
that I've done, the brand endorsements that I've done.
The affiliate marketing was huge.
Or just deals I get from being able to post you on the account.
No, it's a real thing.
The doors that open are unlimited.
When you got a platform, because I know people that pay to get on
Fresh and Fit and they'll make a hundred G's in an hour.
How?
Just by being on a podcast and promoting their course or their
offer, whatever they're promoting.
The offer, yeah.
When you have a platform and you get 7,000 live viewers, you know, that's valuable
Yeah, I've had people pay me ten grand to come on my podcast. Hmm to be able it's like more of a shout-out package
Yeah, I'm not paying for the podcast
They're paying for the content we produce on the podcast and then I'd shout them out ten times on the account
Like now that's
Crazy man. I think you'll get it back eventually. I think so.
I think it's-
The page is so old.
It's like a legacy page.
Yeah, it's legacy verifying.
I've even heard of people getting their accounts back
that have been permanently banned.
Yeah, it's a permanent ban.
Yeah.
Damn.
Well, what are you doing now to make up for that?
We're doing, I've been a trader for 20 years on and off.
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way back in the day, Jordan Belfort days,
the Timothy Sykes days.
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The US, Forex.
So that's kind of like where I'm dabbling right now,
trying to build a business called Effing Capital.
And that's going pretty good.
Nice, so similar to what Jeff's doing, Jeff Seckinger.
Exactly, yeah.
He's crushing it with us.
Exactly, yeah.
Dude, I get his ad every day.
I know.
And I know who runs his ads,
and I know how much revenue he's doing.
Oh my gosh. All from a Forex forex bot yeah and it just trades your money
for you that's exactly what you're crazy and with AI like really looking
legitimate now this could be a possibility that it could work right
things like there there's a lot of rules and regulations in the gray area in the
United States for US residents to be able to get into this industry.
A US client is only able to trade on 50 to 1 leverage, so there's not many options for US
clients. In order to onboard legally an onboard US client, you have to have a 10 million dollar
net worth or more. Damn. Yeah. So it's not even accredited, it's another level. It's another level above accredited
that'll allow a US client to go offshore
and use a 201 leverage brokerage anywhere in the world,
legally.
And that's second to the law.
I mean, it's not like you're breaking the law.
It's like a gray area of the CFTC that states that,
be careful, they just want to protect the US customer.
And that's all that it's for. Because I don't know if you know the statistic that 90 some percent
of traders lose. Wow. So 90% of people are losing their money trading whether
it's stocks, forks, crypto, anything. If people are there manually trading, 90% of
people lose and it's and that's that's what the CFTC wants to protect. That's
really high. I didn't know it was that bad. But thank God we don't manually trade.
So we don't want to use AI and algorithms
to place all our trades for us.
So the people winning are just,
a lot of them are automated, just AI programs basically?
I mean, that's what big banks do.
Big banks are trading trillions a day
in the foreign exchange, trading the euro to the USD,
making little tiny fractions of a cent.
And they got the best AI probably. And they got the best algorithms in USD, making little tiny fractions of a cent. And they got the best AI probably.
And they got the best algorithms in AI, yeah.
So that's what I think AI is going to be more implemented
into these algorithms, because algorithms is not AI.
Let's make that clear.
An algorithm is a computer program
with a bunch of ones and zeros.
That's not artificial intelligence.
Artificial intelligence is actually a learning module
that actually will learn from past to dictate the future.
So once we, we're playing with artificial intelligence
incorporating into these algorithms
to either flicker back between one algorithm or another,
depending on the market, volatility,
because sometimes if the market's flat,
you're not making money.
So when the market's volatile,
it could use a better algorithm than when the market's flat, you're not making money. So when the market's volatile, it could use a better algorithm
than when the market's flat.
Right.
What percentage return on average per month
have you been seeing with these algorithms?
We're doing about 10.
Wow.
For a month, that's insane.
That's 120%.
This year has been insanely volatile.
So it's like 10 to 15, sometimes 20.
Holy crap.
But one of our algorithms has a three year track track record going back three years averages seven percent a month
hmm that's all it's really about the the track record if most people out there
don't have a really good track record so there's testing even like nerf like
betas came under a bunch of drawdown and I heard this heard by people and other
there's a bunch of companies right now that are getting crashed out.
Well, NURBS crashed a few times. That wouldn't be the first time they've had a big drawdown.
I've seen it like twice a year with them, but that's a risky take.
And we've gotten wrecked on some of these before you went on StarGear.
I got one with you. I know you got wrecked on some. We are wrecked on a couple big ones.
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let's keep the names I'm glad you persevered because it compelled me
to leave the space entirely.
But a few guys like you ended up making your own.
I was just, I was like, I knew I want to do this.
Like, I know I've gotten wrecked.
I've lost millions of dollars putting into companies
that failed, but I knew there was one
and I knew there had to be a way for the long run.
And that's just being safe, risk to reward,
finding that algorithm that doesn't use a lot of your capital
to trade, but it's there if it's needed.
It's there if there's a big drawdown day,
a big volatile day, or there's a current event, news, war,
that swing currencies crazy.
So as long as you keep it safe and a lot of money in the account
and you're only utilizing maybe 1% to 5% on a daily basis, you keep it safe and a lot of money in the account and you're only utilizing maybe one to 5%
on a daily basis, you're perfectly safe.
A lot of people, they just get greedy.
And greed is what takes over and they want to make
that extra few percent a month.
They want to make 10, they want to make 20.
And if someone comes to me and said,
they're going to make 20% a month, I'm like run far away.
The drawdown needed for that is just too high.
The risk is too high.
Yeah, so our, which really dope about ours is
only two to one drawdown ratio.
So I know if I see a $10,000 drawdown,
I'm making five grand the next day.
And it's been like that this for three years.
Wow.
It's insane.
I've never seen anything like it.
Even on news days?
Yeah.
Holy crap.
News days is what we call, we have a,
it's a velocity filter. So when something shoots up or goes down quickly, it's taking less trades. Mm-hmm
So that's something we implemented. It's kind of not that's not AI but it's like it's like it's gonna limit the amount of trades per minute Right. Yeah, that's really dope. That's huge, dude
No, I need to look into that dude because I you, I saw potential in it for eight months straight,
10% a month. And then one fucking Newsday, dude,
lost the whole account. I didn't pull out anything, so it was a total L.
That's the other thing, too. You need to pull out some on the way up.
A lot of people leave their whole million dollar bag in there.
It's greed.
It's greed. Because you see the numbers every day.
I know. I want to leave mine compounding,
but I also want to get my principal out
as quick as possible.
Facts.
So I could compound from 500 K to a million in a year,
probably less than a year,
the way it's going right now, probably seven, eight months.
But I really want to get my principal out.
And that's, once you get your principal out,
then compound the rest.
Then you're free riding.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah. But something like this is cool.
Cause it's super passive.
Yeah. Like I've never seen something like this is cool because it's super passive.
Like I've never seen something like that.
It's the best thing since sliced bread.
Yeah, because people try to get 10% a year.
I think I just had a $80,000 a month last month.
Holy crap, yeah, you're getting 10% a month compounded.
So it's even higher.
Pretty nuts, man.
Hopefully that can, and you said the last three years,
every month has been 10%.
For the last three years,
the average of the history is in 7%.
But this year has been volatile.
Even seven is fire.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
Most people will love that in a year.
Yeah.
I would, because once you have millions,
you don't need to be doing like anything crazy.
Like we used to chase crazy returns,
but after losing millions with Forex.
And crypto.
I'm not, and crypto, yeah.
Crypto's down bad this week. You still have a lot
I have zero crypto. Wow, you got fully out. I put it all in this cuz you were big into crypto
Yeah, I really was I was really big you had an FT page too. Yeah, I would promote crypto. I was full-on. I
Don't know. I honestly believe that
Crypto is not the future anymore. Hmm. You think it's algorithmic trading? No. No, no, not that
I'm just saying like the future of money and
If you look at this way
The pure person that doesn't know about crypto or they've never done it before
It's very confusing and tough to them to be able to copy and paste a code
And to send money to their friend when they can mess that up because I've messed it up copy and paste a code and to send money to their friend when they can mess that
up because I've messed it up copy and pasting I thought I copy pasted
something it wasn't pasted I pasted it lost 100k damn what a coin pasted the
wrong address send it back to the the wallet lost 100k multiple times I've
copied and pasted thought I pasted the right thing and lost money now and I'm
good at what I do like I know crypto and I know how it works. Imagine a newbie coming into this. When is it going to be able to be able to
be safe or for like the grandma version to transfer money in between each other? And
I don't think we're ever getting going to get there.
Not anytime soon. Yeah. It's assumed needs to be like a Venmo system. Yeah, exactly.
Like Venmo super easy. Just type in the number or the username done. Yeah. So
that I don't think I don't think Bitcoin is going to be like
over 100 K ever, ever, ever. Whoa, that's a bold say ever.
You're going to get some heat for that.
I might. Yeah, it's down to like 55 to the thing on our case
the ceiling. I don't know because the miners don't give a shit
about holding it.
They're just dumping as soon as they get a batch.
And then how much more Bitcoin can be mined?
A lot, there's 10 more years of Bitcoin mining.
Miners don't care about it.
They just want to make money
and they convert their money into US dollars
or something safer, crypto.
So in Ethereum is like the
gateway to all the scam coins right yeah how many people have been burned with
crypto scam coins meme coins yeah theorem and Solana are like the
gateways to that yeah yeah it's pretty bad so I don't know I'm just I'm not
pro crypto anymore it's good good conversation cuz And like I was deep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For me to switch, I don't know.
No, I am, but someone in your shoes
that's making this cashflow with algorithmic trading,
I could see why you like that more.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I mean, I pulled it out.
You think Bitcoin's gonna double anytime soon?
I can double my money and my algorithm in seven months.
Exactly, and you know it's got a three-year track record.
You don't know if crypto is gonna go up or down.
It's super volatile.
So I could see why you'd rather have 100K in a trader
than 100K in Bitcoin.
Yeah.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Any other investments you're doing right now?
I do a little real estate here and there,
but nothing to brag about.
Investment wise, no, that's it.
Just the traders mainly?
Yeah.
Do you want to raise money for that?
Is that the goal, like turn it into a fund?
Yeah, we're gonna plan on making a fund out of it.
We plan on having a US regulated algorithm
that will work on 50 to one,
modifying our current algorithm
that works on 50 to one margin.
And then US clients can feel safe putting their money
into US regulated brokers.
That's the goal.
And then we can create a fund out of that.
Right now, I don't trust any brokers in Forex.
It's so hard to find a good one.
Outside the US, yeah.
There's like five big ones in the US.
Yeah, outside the US, I mean,
because that country could just take your money.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, we found a good batch of them in Australia. See, Australia is a pretty reputable country, the US I mean, because that country could just take your money. You know what I mean? Yeah.
We found a good batch of them in Australia.
See Australia is a pretty reputable country,
but a lot of the brokers are in some country
you never heard of, some island.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
The US clients will actually get onboarded
through a license through SVG, which is the Virgin,
Grenadines Virgin Islands over there.
So it's not technically licensed under Australian ASIC
licensing.
So it's like a loophole.
Yeah, that makes sense.
And some of the brokers fake their trades too.
Have you seen that?
That was with MT4.
That's why I think the US doesn't want any US clients
on using MT4.
Because you know how everybody used, years ago,
these MLM companies with the Forex, they post their screenshots of all using MT4 because you know how everybody used years ago these
MLM companies with the Forex there they post their screenshots of all these MT4
and like everybody got burned all these manual traders got burned so I think the
US just doesn't want this MT4 software in the hands of any US client yeah I
was upset when they banned it but now I see why yeah everyone lost their money
on that app because you could just fake the trade.
So yeah, it's a Russian company.
And if you know the broker you're working with,
you could just fake everything.
Fake every single trade going through MT4.
And that's how we got Bernie, one of those companies.
Yeah, one of the traders we were in,
none of the trades were real.
They got people for years on that one.
Geez.
So many scams, man.
Being in Miami, you're probably used to it. Yeah. Yeah. Lot of
intricate scams out here, right? Well, more in Dubai
probably. But yeah, the Miami scam life is real. You can feel
their energy though. You know what I mean? Yeah. You walk in
a room and just talk to people. You're like, all right, this is
kind of weird. Just just commission breath. Yeah. yeah for the sale you still be doing networking events and
stuff mmm no not really yeah I haven't seen you out too much actually laying
low I've kind of stepped away from like the speaking the networking events a
little bit was that by choice or just kind of yeah cuz I've done network
marketing before I did it once I'll never do that again
Never wasn't for you. Definitely wasn't for me. Yeah. Yeah, my wife still does it a little bit
It doesn't feel like the incentives are aligned. I like businesses where it's a win-win. Yeah, you know, I mean
It's a lot of work a lot a lot of work just to make a little bit. That's what I'm saying. It's like e-commerce
Margins are so thin like you could do 10 million in e-commerce
and make like 200K.
What?
You know what I mean?
You haven't heard this?
No.
Yeah, e-commerce margins are thin, dude.
Really?
Because you got to spend money on marketing.
The product cost went up because of C19.
Facebook ads are super expensive now.
Yeah, I've been doing e-commerce for 25 years actually.
Really?
Well, I did it the right way.
My first business was Treadstone Performance.
So we made cars go faster.
Okay.
You know like the Fast and the Furious movies?
Yeah.
So it was like a hobby, passion of mine.
I was able to turn, I was lucky enough,
fortunate enough to turn that into a business
when I was in college.
And I remember starting my online store
and listing my first product.
And eBay was big back then.
So I was able to capitalize on the eBay, just like how Amazon blew up.
Well, I was one of the first power sellers on eBay selling car parts.
So I was doing millions from my parents' basement.
Damn.
Yeah.
And this was 20 years ago.
So that's pretty crazy.
Yeah, 20 years ago.
We'd be doing millions 20 years ago.
Yeah.
So that business is still running strong. What? Yeah What yeah 24 years. We're still selling on eBay. No, yeah We saw us on eBay, but it's not our primary income. Oh, but the business is we have thousands of
Wholesalers worldwide damn. I didn't even know you were running that. Yeah, I don't run it. I just own it
Yeah, I've never seen you talk about that business. Yeah, I post it here and there, but yeah.
So you're into cars pretty heavy?
I like cars, but I don't like cars like I used to.
Like making them, like, I used to be like wrench them
under the hood, mechanic, do all the work myself.
I've modified so many cars.
I've welded intercoolers.
Holy crap.
Went under the car with a wrench.
I used to go to junkyards, wrench turbos off of cars,
20 degree weather, busting my knuckles.
I never knew this side of you, man.
I thought you were just a little behind the scenes,
kind of nerdy Instagrammer, you know what I mean?
Gotcha.
That's cool, dude.
So yeah, that's the business, the guys run it,
team of like eight, seven, eight guys.
And I'm actually looking to sell it.
Okay.
Yeah, now would be a good time
because a lot of valuations are going down actually.
Really?
Because of the investment bubble, yeah.
Yeah, you used to be able to sell your company
for a lot more than now.
Damn.
Yeah.
And might hire a new M&E firm.
Yeah, I mean, we'll see, it might come back,
but just so many companies were inflated, their valuations.
So when they sold it, the companies that them never really got value gotcha. I don't know
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He's Jake Shields a jujitsu fighter in the UFC. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. No Jake's shoes. I remember that name
Yeah, I don't know something about jiu-jitsu. It's, you can't explain it of
why people get addicted. It's very hard to explain, but someone just brought up
this point the other day. It's like when runners get runners high. I don't
know runners high because I hate running. So I'd rather get my cardio in the gym
jiu-jitsu. And I'm like, I'm a competitive person because some of my friends
I bring them there and they're like this is not for me. I don't want to I want to fight
I'm like stuff fighting. It's like it's more about like
It's a puzzle
That you'll never solve. Yeah, it's it's constantly evolving of learning techniques
And it's so cool when you learn a technique
and then you apply it when you're live sparring.
It feels so good to learn something new.
I don't know how to explain it.
Do you take on actual fights or you just spar?
So every Monday, Wednesday, we actually spar for,
we have beginners class, intermediate class,
and then about 30 to 45 minutes of sparring.
So you either start standing up and it's like,
it's like a match.
You can either go hard or you can flow.
I find myself always wanting to win and going hard.
Cause I'm a competitive, so I do competitions.
Every month or two, I'll go to a competition.
Oh nice, you're nice.
I have like 30, 40 medals already.
Holy crap, I gotta check out some footage of you, man.
Yeah, it's on my personal Instagram. Yeah, do you recommend people develop some sort of fight skill in general? I
definitely would recommend if
Your parents and you have kids
Put your kids as you get to mmm. What good is I mean unless someone's gonna go for professional sports
What good is learning a skill of a ball throwing a ball up and down the field?
What is that going to do for you?
It's going to do it, I mean, yeah, maybe it'll get in shape, but like, this is a skill that
you will learn and have for life.
You want to protect your family, you want to feel confident, you want to walk around
into a bar and feel confident that, you know, you know how to deescalate situations, not
escalate situations because you know how to fight.
Yes, you can break someone's arm, choke someone out, but now most people when they get
into situations at the bar or they're about to get into a fight, the
adrenaline kicks in and they don't know how to control it. They either get
scared, fight or flight, and then when they're ready to fight, they don't know
what the fuck they're doing. Like if you ever get grabbed by someone who knows
Jiu-Jitsu, you're done.
It's that quick. Especially if they're a black beltjitsu, you're done. It's that quick?
Especially if they're black belt.
Why?
You're done.
Are you a black belt?
No, I just got my purple belt.
Oh, so you're getting my purple belt.
Okay.
Five years, it usually takes about 10 to 12 years to get a black belt.
Holy crap.
Yeah.
It's that intense?
It's one of those martial arts that takes a long time to learn.
Dude, because I used to take karate.
I feel like it was way easier to get black belt in karate.
Yeah, it is.
I was already blue belt in like fifth grade or something.
Yeah, it takes a long time.
Wow.
And what's the test like?
Is it, do you have to be a black belt person?
No, it's not about testing and beating somebody.
It's just about learning the moves,
learning different moves, applying them.
And there's, it's just takes so long to learn like it literally
takes ten years damn to learn everything there is to know about it and be good at
it you got to do a pay-per-view with you and Alex Becker he does you too yeah
what belt does he I don't know but he posts on Facebook all the time really
yeah I would watch that much I got a phone man he's supposed on Instagram
still no he hates Instagram yeah he's just on Facebook one of those. Yeah I don't use Facebook at all. I don't
either but I'll go on like once a month and I'll see him post like three
paragraphs. Hmm. There's there's some clients on Facebook but it's just really
not really my. Yeah I love it so I opened a gym with my professor. Oh nice. Yeah so
about a year ago he was looking to he was like in between gyms.
He was running his business at like a local gym, his condo, a studio, and never really
had a, like he had a falling out with his past partners.
And I was training with him wherever he went, I followed him, we trained.
And I was looking for office space at the time.
I'm like, when I put my office, we get a gym, we go 50-50, you get the gym, I use your name in the gym,
I help you market it.
He's good at what he does.
He trained with the Gracie's, he's a 50-degree black belt.
His professor was Ryan Gracie.
And he's probably one of the best in Miami.
Ryan Gracie?
No, professor.
Actually, Ryan Gracie passed away.
So it was Professor Arashiro Guillermo.
He's actually a real estate agent.
So he was trying to find me properties for my office.
I'm, he went into business together.
So that's been a money pit to say the least.
I thought it was going to be very easy.
You're starting that business.
I'm like, people are all going to come to my jujitsu gym.
I get a proponent of my social media.
Easy peasy.
It's a tough business, dude.
Bro, we are still not breaking even.
Dude, gyms are tough.
My rent is like seven grand a month
in the heart of Wynwood.
Holy crap.
And the people come and then they go.
I don't know.
Yeah, the retention rate.
But it's slowly, slowly, like we're almost breaking even.
I feel that.
Gyms are just, you got to put up so much capital up front.
Yeah, I'm already 100K in debt.
Yeah, for the equipment and stuff and then.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough model.
I'm not a fan of most retail models, to be honest,
because we could just make money on the internet.
The thing is, I'm doing it for passion, though.
I'm not doing the gym to make money.
And if it loses more money for the next year,
I'm OK with it.
You just want to give back.
Yeah, I love bringing people in.
Hey, you want to come talk to me?
You want to come meet me?
You want to learn something,
you want to learn a great skill, and not just about, it's not about me,
it's about helping people out
and giving them an amazing skill
that they're going to use for life.
Yeah, that's a cool two in one though,
get a little business advice and then,
a little Jiu Jitsu advice.
Yeah, the people, oh, I'm going to go for coffee,
can I pick your brain?
I'm like, come train your Jitsu.
You want to talk to me?
Come train your Jitsu.
I don't like the pick your brain line, dude like come train you jitsu. Don't talk to me come train you jitsu I don't like to pick your brain
That shit gives me like goosebumps. Like why do people think that's a cool thing? So I don't know. Can I buy you coffee?
I'm like an hour of my time is not worth
Coffee or like want to get lunch. I'm like all you got to do is spend
$220 to buy a membership. You can talk to me all you want as I kick your ass
I love that.
Have you ever had to use these skills on the streets?
Not yet.
OK, that's good.
No.
But I am a hell of a lot more confident just in speaking
if something were to happen.
I've gotten in like some confrontations
before that five years ago. I would have been scared
Now i'm not scared anymore
You know, yeah, that's a good just mentality to have you could walk in any room with that confidence because people can feel that energy
Yeah, especially if something happens like
You know people always want to test you, you know, yeah. Yeah, especially out here your target man
You just learn how to
calmly de-escalate situations knowing and I can fucking kill you right now
What would be your move if uh, you wanted to kill someone?
Get to the back. Yeah, get to the back and then we're naked joke
Yeah, because you're not getting out of that right once you get once I get to your back is it's game over. Wow. Yeah
Damn the whole thing would you just do is to get you on the ground, right?
Yeah.
And that's to kind of stop your movement.
Yeah, an arm bar, arm bar, subdue somebody.
You can break someone's arm very easily.
Have you done that?
No.
Geez.
I've seen YouTube videos of competitions where some people won't tap out and then fucking
snap.
My arm's hurting right now.
A professor got me a couple arm bars last week.
Geez. Dude,'s hurting right now. Professor got me a couple of arm bars last week. Jeez.
Dude, it's been fun.
Where can people learn more about you
and potentially invest in the fund and everything?
So effingcapital.io is the algorithm at trading.
Millmentor.com is the blog.
And if you want to get ahold of me on my personal Instagram,
because millionaire mentor is down,
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And if you could get his Instagram back guys
He's got 30k waiting for you. There we go. We'll link up love. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me