Digital Social Hour - AI, UFOs & the Future of Humanity: What You Need to Know | Thomas Kaenzig DSH #1309

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

🚀 AI, UFOs & the Future of Humanity: What You Need to Know! 🌌 Curious about humanity’s origins, extraterrestrials, and where we’re headed in the age of AI? Tune in now for a fascinating conversation on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🎙️ In this episode, Sean dives deep with Thomas Kaenzig to explore groundbreaking ideas about our extraterrestrial origins, the role of prophets like Jesus and Moses, and the philosophy of the Raelian movement. 🛸 Discover how ancient texts, misunderstood symbols, and scientific advancements like cloning and AI could shape the future of humanity. From decoding myths to tackling overpopulation and the potential for eternal life, Thomas shares mind-blowing insights you can’t miss. 🌟 This episode is packed with valuable insights on AI, the singularity, and how technology could create a society of abundance and happiness. 🤖 Plus, learn how meditation, peace, and understanding our shared history could unify the world. 🌍 Don’t miss out—watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets! 📺 Be part of the conversation and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly. 🚀 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:35 - Extraterrestrial Life Origins 07:01 - Scientific Atheism and Creationism 10:51 - Cloning Advances and Future Science 17:57 - Overpopulation Challenges 20:44 - Raelian Movement Global Presence 23:08 - Concepts of the Afterlife 24:24 - Misinterpretations of Jesus and Moses 28:54 - Raelian Infinity Symbol Explained 33:10 - Swastika Rehabilitation Awareness 36:03 - History as Programming 39:10 - Racial Identity of Adam and Eve 43:10 - Justification of Violence 45:44 - War Conditioning in Society 47:54 - Peace Meditation in Education 49:16 - Discover the Raelian Movement APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Thomas Kaenzig https://www.instagram.com/raelianmovement LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ #documentary #machinelearning #historychannel #ancientaliensfullepisodes #documentaries

But you know, by choice and definitely, you know, not having more than two children per per couple, because that way at least you keep things stable. And some people ask, well, how do we do it? And at first, I mean, the easiest one is the lowest hanging fruit is what you know, the thing about a tax return, people can make a deduction for, you know, having an extra child, right? All right, guys, Tom is Kenzig here today. having an extra child, right? All right guys, Tomix, Kenzig here today. We're going to talk about the origins of humanity,

aliens, UFOs and all that sort of stuff. Thanks for coming on, man. Well, thanks for inviting me. Yeah, let's kick it from the top. So origins of humanity. It's a debated topic, right? Yes. Well, there's two classical explanations, right?

The idea of random evolution or the idea of an almighty God sitting on a cloud somewhere. The Rayleigh movement proposed a third explanation saying that life on earth was created by extraterrestrials who came about 25,000 years ago to this planet and who created life here scientifically. And those extraterrestrials were mistaken for gods. If you look at all the ancient texts, we're here in the Abrahamic world, right? Where the Bible is widespread. You take the Bible in the Abrahamic world, right? Where the Bible is widespread. You take the Bible in the ancient Hebrew version. It says in Genesis, Elohim created a man in their image.

Elohim did this, Elohim did this. The word actually Elohim was mistranslated, unfortunately, in English into the word God, which is probably the biggest, the biggest lie. I was called like that, the biggest lie on this planet. They made out of a plural, a singular, because the word Elohim literally translated actually means those who came from the sky. And if you look around the planet, other than the Abrahamic religions, Christianity, Islam and Judaism, pretty much all the other religions, legends already talk about a plurality of beings.

So this idea of a monotheism really doesn't exist much. You go to Africa, the legends there, they talk about the little geniuses who came from the sky. You go to India where they talk about the gods, plural, flying around in the VHMAS having names behaving like us. You know, there's Shiva, for example, right? Yeah. You go to China, there's a story of Fu Xi, Nüwa, you know, creating life.

We have in Chinese mythology, probably saw a few years ago, the Chinese, they put the moon lander on the moon, and they named it Chang'e. Chang'e was a Chinese goddess who supposedly lived on the moon. Wow. So, you know, this is obviously, nowadays in the age of science, Chang'e was a Chinese goddess who supposedly lived on the moon. So, you know, this is obviously nowadays in the age of science, we can understand this.

Well, yeah, it was an extraterrestrial, right? We go here, obviously, before Christianity came to this land, we know the natives in their stories, in their legends, they talk about the great forefathers who created life. So there's always been pretty much in all the Greek gods, the Greeks everywhere you go, other than in the in the city, Abrahamic religions, it's always been a multitude of, of gods. And of course, we have to understand, you know, primitive people at the time when they saw beings come from the sky. Yes, they, they, you know, wow, this, this, they had like, you know, God, they describe this God like figures because, you know, take, uh, you know, even go back 500 years and you do a video call with somebody who's up in Denver and, and, and they would think, wow,

this is, this is magic here. You have a God-like power. So think about a thousand years ago, any technology was deified. And then we have to read all the ancient texts, really try to read the ancient texts with the eyes of somebody who has a scientific understanding. You take for example, Noah's Ark, right?

It's in the Bible. How could this be just like a boat that floats in water? Well, how can you load up from each animal? I mean, the female and the male, I mean, the lion's not gonna eat the gazelle. I mean, you gotta have a huge boat to start with and how do you, this doesn't make sense. Now, if you, in this stage of science and technology,

with the understanding we have today, what if they just took one cell and then you can clone the animal? So one cell obviously way less space, right? So if we can understand all these legends, the story of Jonas and the whale, right? He spent what, three days and three nights in a big fish. Explain that.

How does that work? He's not going to come out alive after that. You spent three hours in a, in a, in a whale and you're, you're probably already half digested, right? Yeah. But what if it's a submarine? Okay. Now this all makes sense.

Right. So, um, and, and that's really, so we have these extraterrestrial scientists who came here, created all forms of life, starting off with very primitive life forms. And then ultimately, as they say, as it's said in the Bible, humans in their image and their likeness. Got it. And so they stayed in touch with humanity by sending at different times prophets, Moses, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammed, Joseph Smith, mentioned one that is, was here in the Americas, right? So about the total of 40 profits were sent to basically to guide humanity to, how should I say, simply put to have more love for each other,

live a harmonious life. And yes, that's really the role of a prophet. And now that we're the age of science and understanding, the age of apocalypse, the apocalypse doesn't, a lot of people, you talk about destruction. No, not at all. The word apocalypse comes from the Greek apocalypsis, it means revelation.

This is a, this is day and age, everyone right now, ever since the explosion of the first atomic bomb in, in, in bomb in Japan in 1945. And that's when the Elohim, our extraterrestrial creators decided to send their last messenger, Rael, and they gave a mission to basically inform the whole planet about our extraterrestrial origin and build an embassy for them where they can officially be welcomed.

Wow. You just said a lot. I got a lot of questions. Yeah, sure. Go ahead. So basically from the start, you don't believe that evolution happened, right? No, actually, you know, for me, I became a Raelian. I would say it was, it was simply a rational choice.

So when you always ask yourself any, any scientific theory, any hypothesis, can you replicate it? Now, you know, Miller and many other scientists for decades been sitting in front of some earth and hoping something to happen and nothing really comes out of it. Right. So out of nothing, nothing's going to come. Now, what the rain philosophy is proposing is is scientific atheistic creationism. And that's what we are replicating today. I mean, there's scientists right now who, as we speak, probably tens of found the PhDs in labs who create life. You know, we start off with very simple life forms. I think it was Craig Venter, somebody who created the first single cell organism a few years ago.

And one day, a scientist, we will, you know, obviously we will evolve our techniques. Yes. But one day there will be a scientist who will dream about creating a being in our image, just like it was with us and he may have to go to another planet because this may be too controversial. Some people think cloning already exists. Well cloning is a, yes, I mean, Jesus was probably the first clone. Jesus was cloned? Well, he was, think about it.

He died on the cross and then he reappeared. How is that possible, right? So again, this is 2000 years ago, you couldn't scientifically explain this, but nowadays we can understand it. I mean, all they had to do is, yeah, basically clone him in advanced stage compared with what we know today.

Cloning today is just creating a later born twin, if you want. So that's the same DNA, but obviously we'll grow up at a different time, different conditioning, different programming. But so once you can create a being at an advanced adult stage, have you seen the movie, The Fifth Element? I haven't.

You know, where they're basically, this mysterious woman who helps them to, you know, save humanity ultimately, but they create her just kind of like in a machine, program it, and she's assembled and she comes out as an adult body, right, you don't have to go through a, because right now a clone of this is gonna, you know, be born as a little baby and it takes years

right? So if, when you can, you can call it advanced growth process, master that somebody comes out, out in adult stage. And then the only thing you have to do is what transfer personality and memory. And in that we're getting close to that. So once, once we will be able to transfer personality memory and master somewhat some kind of advanced growth process, we will have eternal life. Wow. It will not be a, you know, for thousands of years,

people haven't talked about eternal life, but it was always mystified, right? And now again, in this age of science and technology, we can understand all this. It's no longer a mystery. And that was announced a long time ago. It's no longer a mystery. And that was announced a long time ago. It's in this age, the age of apocalypse, the mystery of God will be solved. That's what we're seeing. Science is basically, yeah, it's ultimately

removing, killing the idea of a kind of an immaterial God. And that explained to us that this were just beings who love us and who would like to come back and that's, that's why the rate of movement has this goal to, uh, uh, to build an embassy. It's exciting. I saw a scientist clone for wooly mammoth. Did you see that? They're working on that. Yeah.

The problem you have to get, you know, DNA, um, that is still fully, fully there, not just fragments of it. But yeah, maybe you're gonna use an elephant as a surrogate because you still gotta have a gopher pregnancy at this stage. So yeah, but all this is happening very fast and always remember that the science fiction of yesterday is today's science, right? And our science fiction today will be tomorrow's science.

We're going to live in Star Trek in 50 years. Well, we're going to reach singularity very soon. And we will be able to travel if we don't kill ourselves. And that's really, mankind is right now at this stage where we will either use science and technology to create a better planet for everybody, the golden age that was announced a long time ago, or we will self-destruct. I mean, if you look at the, so many countries have nuclear weapons and if one starts to push a button, the other will respond and it's going to be the end of all of us. So we're right that this, it's a very, I always tell people, we are living at the

most exciting time. You know, think about it, our ancestors were shoveling coal in mines. We have really very little hope, right? We are our generation, we are the ones are going to, it's kind of the do or die moment and we're going to enter this golden age or are we going to disappear? So of course as Raylan's we are here to save humanity and by, I think by bringing this message of, it's not only explaining, because a lot of people think the rain philosophy, yes, okay, we come from ETs, okay, thanks. But it's not just the past. Yes, we have, we bring a very rational explanation about the origin of life, but we have teachings

about living in the present moment. And I think that's something that is the now, which is very important. And a lot of people have kind of lost track of it. They have stuck in the past or worry about a future that will never happen, it's not there. So it's very important to teach people to be in the now. And we have seminars on a regular basis worldwide where we teach meditation and help people to be

in the present moment to have, how should I say, to develop a happiness, a true happiness that comes from the inside. And I think it's one of the biggest illusions on this planet other than the idea of an almighty God. I think it is one of the biggest illusions on this planet other than the idea of an almighty God. I think the other big illusion is the idea of separation. Just look at our language, right?

People say, my girlfriend, my cat, my house, my car. There's always, I own this, it's me separate. Whereas we, we're all just stardust, you and I, we ultimately, the matter that we're made of, it comes from the stars and yes, we are alive right now. And when we die, we go back into, to what we've always been part of that dust, but the, basically the organized matter becomes inorganized matter. But we all, we're all just stardust and people on this planet would understand that. Then that removes any basis for war and all the horrible things we're seeing nowadays on this planet. So that's the, yes, the rational explanation about our past, the philosophy that helps us live in the now.

And at the same time, the Raiden philosophy, it prepares us for a beautiful future. And we are very enthusiastic about what we see happening with AI. And very soon we'll have a planet where people won't have to work anymore. Isn't that great? You know, if you... Because the Elohim didn't create us. Get up, you know, the sound of an alarm clock at 6 a.m. to brush your teeth, go downstairs, eat your toast, get in the car, drive to work, clock in your nine hours,

go back, sit tired in front of the TV and then go to bed and do that for 40 years and then retire and then maybe five years later have a heart attack. I mean, it's a nightmare if you think about it. But thanks to science and technology, we will very soon be able to create a society where full of abundance, everybody will be able to create a society where full of abundance, everybody will be able to, to live and enjoy themselves, create, meditate, do what they want to do without having this, this, this

huge burden of having, having to work and the clock in somewhere. So that would be interesting. That's how the ancient civilizations operated, right? Yeah. I mean, that's when, when you read about the, when they talk about the paradise and all these things, of course, you don't want to, don't want to have a society where you work and where there's money and we're really close. We're getting really close to this moment. Really?

And it's, I mean, you, you can see it everywhere. Right. And I mean, you remember the, I mean, in simple ways, I mean, look at, you go to the store, okay. Yeah. You used to always talk to cashier with, you know, in simple ways, I mean, look at, you go to a store, okay. You used to always talk to cashier, swipes the barcodes and gives you a toll and you pay, right?

Nowadays you can do self checkout, right? You used to go to many malls, you have to buy your thing. Now Amazon, we're in a warehouse, a robot assembles your order. Right now we still have a truck driver driving a truck within a couple of years that won't be a truck driver anymore. You know, it'd be just all done by robots. So we already see all that coming and things are going to go very, very fast. I was talking to a friend of mine recently, he works in the field of AI.

He's been a developer all his life. He told me he only writes 2% of his code himself. 98% is the AI's doing it. That's crazy. People develop their coding skills for years right now. Yeah. They go to college for it. And the problem, that's why, you know, if you're a junior developer, it's very hard to find any job because that's all done by computers and robots. And that's happening in literally all industries, thankfully.

And so within a few years, we'll be able to really live in a leisure society. And that will also help to, I should say, to just increase the happiness of people. Because think about it, if you're gonna worry about whether you can make ends meet at the end of the month, right? That's, you know, it's difficult to be fully, fully, how do you say, awakened and, you know, in harmony.

That's a big stressor for most families. That's a financial. Yeah. You mentioned nuclear weapons earlier is a big threat. Also do you think overpopulation is a threat to humanity? Yes. I was born in 1973. And world population was around 4 billion. Now 52 years later, we more than doubled. Wow. So that is really, it is a huge issue for humanity. And that's, that's one of the main piece of advice the Elohim give us that we really should,

of course, some people are saying all these crazy ideas about reducing population, not forcefully, but by choice. And definitely not having more than two children per couple, because that way, at least you keep things stable. And some people ask me, well, how do we do it? And at first, I mean, the easiest one, the lowest hanging fruit is what? Think about it on a tax return. People can make a deduction for having an extra child, right? So you basically have an incentive.

This is a crazy thing. In our society, in most countries, you're being given an incentive to have more children. In some countries, like in Europe, for example, and in France, if you have 10, 12 kids, you can pretty much live off the government check. Wow. Just because you have so, and that's, you know,

so there's definitely, so there's easy things we can change in, and I hope just if people are, you know, aware of that and just a conscious, you make a conscious decision, that's me personally. I do not have any children. I'm great for those who choose to have one, but please don't have more than two per couple. Elon Musk, baby. He's got 14. Elon Musk has many ideas. We agree with him, but definitely not as far as in terms of the number of children.

Well, I see his point of view too, because he's trying to build legacy and his kids maybe take the throne one day. But if everybody has 10 plus, I mean, we just don't have the resources. And think of it, if everybody on the planet would live like we do here with one, two cars per household, I mean, the whole infrastructure,

it's just don't have the resources, right? Yeah, probably not enough real estate, right? Yeah, and everything, I mean, it comes down to a simple, like, all the water, food and all that, right? Yeah. So, and we will, I mean, in the US, if you look at the population density here, it's still somewhat because we have a lot of land,

but you go to a place like Bangladesh, India, some of these places, you know, I mean, you have one disruption even in the supply chain and then we have starvation and all that. Have you been over there? I've been to a lot of Asian countries, but not Bangladesh. Where is the Israeli movement the biggest, which country?

So the rail movement is really on, on all the continents, um, from, you know, here, U S Canada, Mexico, in, in, in North America, um, in, in Europe, obviously in the French speaking countries, because Raoul is French originally. And so he started spreading the message in French speaking Europe. So in France, Switzerland, but we also have a lot of railings in Africa, in Western Africa, mainly Ivory Coast,

Burkina Faso, Congo. Most trains are actually in Asia, in Japan. Okay. Yeah. And we have lots of members too in Korea. And some is not by surprise because probably the Buddhist countries, Buddhism is basically,

Raelianism is basically Buddhism without the mysticism. So it's an easy jump, right? Easy step from Buddhism to radianism. If you take the Abrahamic religions, right? It's very dogmatic, don't do this, don't do that. You're a sinner and all that. The Buddhism is focused on the awakening of a person. And obviously so is, uh, radianism. It's to, you know, be

yourself and be happy and, uh, and not, not this, uh, this heavy luggage of, uh, you know, your sinner and, and, and kind of 10 commandments style. Don't do this kind of thing. Yeah. So you got a lot of shame there, right? With the sims. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. And they make you confess. Yeah.

It's an interesting model, right? It's a terrible model because it, because it creates somebody who's, you know, full, full of fear. Oh, did I, did I do this right? You know, and all that. So when you, when you, when a human being can grow up and, I should say, develop themselves, the way they are, be themselves, as we like to say it, then that creates a totally different human being. A human being that is more loving, more happy, more harmonious. And through that,

will awaken brothers and sisters around himself. I love it. Do you believe in the afterlife like heaven and hell? So the Elohim do recreate on the planet of the eternals those human beings who have done a lot of positive for humanity. All the profits of old are there. So karma? Well, no, but it's very important. It's a scientific recreation. So with somebody's DNA and this, what we call, as we talked before,

but advanced growth process and the memory transfer they can recreate. So if say you died in a car accident and Sean, hopefully you've done a lot of positive and good for humanity. They would recreate you on the planet of eternity, but it's a scientific recreation. But it was talked about, as you say, all the religion of the past, right? You talk about this paradise, but it was obviously mystified again, due to lack of scientific understanding. But it's simply the plan of eternal, people call the paradise in the past is simply a place of leisure, blossoming and awakening. Interesting. Do you think there's a lot of misunderstanding around Jesus and Moses? Um, well, yeah, I mean, they obviously, they, they brought, um, they were prophets of the, of the Elohim, but we, we, we misunderstood, I think many, many things they, they, they said.

The problem was, you know, think about nowadays, many things they said. The problem was, you know, think about nowadays, Ryle, the last prophet of Elohim, he's here in the day and age of signs we can record him. So whatever he said, you know, we can show it. There's all these videos, you can go to our website, ryle.org, and you can click, look at all the videos, everything he says, right?

So it's all documented. The problem with the prophets of old, there was no, I mean, what they were teaching that was actually written down years, decades later, not necessarily by the people who were actually a firsthand witness. So things get totally, totally transformed. I mean, if you look at Jesus, he was, you know, speaking about love and compassion. I don't see that in the Catholic church. I mean, look at what the horrors they've done over centuries, you know, the Crusades, the burning of the witches. That's not Jesus didn't want that.

Jesus never, I mean, that's, yeah, that's, so there's, we have to make a difference between the prophet and his teachings at the time and versus the, say the organizations that came out of it. Yeah. It's like that game, Telephone. Did you play that growing up? Where like you have 10 people, you end up, exactly. Somebody says something, somebody else, and then 10 people later, right?

It's totally different. Totally. Yes. Yes. And that's why I feel so, how should I say, privileged to be alive at this day and age where we have a living prophet. We can actually see exactly what he says. It's all recorded and there's no, you can't betray. I would say that.

Yeah. You can't, the prophet cannot be betrayed anymore. Whereas in the past, yes, unfortunately, many prophets were, their teachings were betrayed. Yeah. A lot of people label themselves as prophets. I never know who to believe, you know? First of all, we have to maybe demystify the term, right?

Prophet, it comes from the Greek myth, the one who reveals. True prophet reveals something that he's ahead of time. And yeah, of course it was said in the Bible too, there will be many false prophets. And that's what we're seeing today, right? In our day and age. With social media, yeah. It's in their Instagram bio. Yeah, I always tell people, you know, just make up your own mind. And that's really, as Raelians,

we are never, no Raelian would want to convince anybody of something. We are here, I'm here today, just to speak about the rain philosophy. I tell people, go on our website, Valderdor, download this message, which comes from the stars and make up your mind. If it speaks to you, great.

If it doesn't, great. I want you to be happy. I don't want everybody to become a Raelian. Not at all. I want people to be happy. But yeah, check it out and then make up your mind. That's what I was told. I like that. Cause a lot of modern religion is kind of culty,

you know? Yes. And you have to believe and commit. I, you see any, you talk to any Raylian, they're all, we somehow we, when I, I'm just, you know, kind of looking back at myself, when I read the book, right? The, the, the message from the Elohim. I, when I was going through the pages, I just, I found myself, I, I, I saw in it what I've always believed to be true. So there was nothing, nobody convinced me of anything for me is like, it's like all the pieces of the puzzle came together. That's how I felt. That's, you know, when you talk to, to Raelians, uh, the true Rains, they're all, they just saw themselves in, in, in that book,

in that message, it resonated with them and nobody, nobody gets convinced or, or anything. Because the truth, either people recognize it, but they don't. So there's no need. I'm not going to waste time trying to explain people something like when people ask me about, you know, the rain philosophy, I just usually give them the flyer and say, here, check it out. There's a website, but no more call me. And yeah, I love that. Um, the Aurelian symbol of infinity.

Could you explain the meaning behind that? Yes. It's the symbol that I'm wearing here today. Um, it's the symbol of the Elohim. Um, the symbol of infinity has. It has two parts, right? You see the Star of David, which represents infinity in space. And you have the swastika, which represents infinity in time. So what does that mean? So the infinity in space, you have a triangle pointing up and a triangle pointing down. The triangle pointing up represents the infinity large, meaning we are on a planet that goes around the sun, right? And the sun circles around the center of a galaxy in an infinite universe. That's on our level. Now, these galaxies that we're all inside, they're on an infilarger level. They're inside an atom, a molecule of something infilarger, maybe a living human being. Maybe we are inside, on an infilarger level, you're inside a person who right now interviews

somebody else. And that to the infinite, you know, it goes in same of the triangle pointing down, meaning that, um, in, in, in my finger, for example, you know, there's atoms in there and in, in those particles inside is on an infinitely smaller level, um, this galaxies with solar systems, planets, and maybe for sure in here, there's in one of them, there's people talking about infinity too. And so that goes forever to the, you know, infinitely small. So that's the infinity in space represented by the star of David. Then we have the swastika, it represents infinity in time,

meaning there's no beginning and no end, everything is cyclical. And of course the swastika has been in Western countries, it was tarnished by Hitler abusing the symbol, but the swastika has been around for thousands of years. Really? And yeah, it only had positive connotations. I mean, the word swastika has been around for thousands of years. Really? And yeah, it only had positive connotations. I mean, the word swastika, from the Sanskrit,

means little things associated with wellbeing. That's the etymological meaning of it, right? But even in the United States, until the 1920s, people get married, they often receive a postcard with a swastika on it, wishing them well. You go like in San Francisco, the old mint, the old US mint, and you can still see that today. There's a big swastika there.

You remember President Garfield? Don't actually. It's one of the... I'm 28. Yeah, okay. It's well before my time too. I heard't actually. It's one of the... I'm 28. Yeah, okay. Well, it's well before my time too. I heard of him. Yeah, and there's a memorial.

Like most presidents, they have a memorial, right? Yeah. In that building, there is, on the floor, there's swastikas. Really? Yeah, so until Hitler abused an already existing symbol, it was really only a positive connotation, the very positive meaning. And specifically, and people ask,

some ask why do you guys, why do you use the swastika because you know about blah, blah, blah. Well, because I specific, I don't wanna give credit to this monster. And that's why the rate of movement, we have this, we initiated an action called the swastika Rehabilitation Day, where we, you know, basically public spaces, you know,

explain to people the origin of the swastika and actually want to take it back. Cause you know, if you associated it with Hitler, you're only giving credit to this guy. So, and he just abused a very beautiful symbol. And that's why it's very important to explain to people the beautiful original meaning, right? So, and symbols can be abused by anybody.

Think about it, you take, well, the Kukulks clan is using the Christian cross, right? I don't think Christians agree with the clan's ideology. So symbols can always be abused, but that's why it's so important to explain people the true and the original meaning. Yeah, that's good to know. I didn't know it was around that long.

Did you see what happened to Kanye West? He actually posted our symbol. Oh, he did? Yes, he actually, the screenshot is our symbol. Oh, wow. And I don't know, we tried to reach out to him. I did send him a DM, but I never heard back and I don't know what his intention was

and he sometimes seems to have, I don't know. Well, he tried selling the shirts with the swastika on Shopify and then they banned him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know what went through his mind when he posted that Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, I don't know what, you know, what went through his mind when he posted that or, yeah. Yeah. But again, it's, you know, what is most, the most important thing to remember that swastika

is a, it's actually a sacred symbol. You go to Asia, you have it all over the place. I mean, in Japan, you know, you walk in Tokyo, like a manhole cover, there's a swastika on there. On a Tokyo map, all the temples, they're basically marked with a swastika. Like here we marked the churches with a cross on the map, right? So they marked them with a swastika on the map. Wow, that's crazy.

Yeah, so that's why in Asia people are totally, I should say, they're all familiar for them. This is a highly, highly regarded sacred symbol. And so actually, I have to say, so it is here. Because when I say here, we all, you know, came what only a few hundred years ago here, but the original owners of the land here, the natives, put them, the swastika, is a very sacred and highly regarded symbol too.

That is interesting. Yeah, there's a lot of programming around the swastika, right? The Western culture, how it's evil. I remember growing up learning about it. But that's why, that's why it's so important for us to, um, to, to restore and to rehabilitate it. Yes. Yeah.

That's what we're doing. And, um, and we have a website, um, it's a proswastika.oneword.org. And you can see pictures of, you can actually, you have a whole section there. It's, I mean, you have like, you know, different continents, subsections for each continent. And there's one for Israel. Really? So even in Israel, the Ein Gedi Synagogue on the ground,

there's Swastika in Capernaum. And one of the most holy sites for the Jewish people, the second temple. So, you know, it's been a Jewish symbol, a symbol of Judaism for thousands of years as well. So, and that's why we have this rehabilitate the Swastika action. And yeah. We'll link that below in the video. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just now realizing a lot of the history I was taught growing up was incorrect.

So I have to unlearn everything. That's why I'm here. Well, history is just programming in school. Absolutely. They teach it from one perspective. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why I think the beautiful thing, I think day and age of the internet,

I think that changed a lot, right? Because yes, people still go to school and programmed by their parents, programmed school, but the internet, you can go and check things out yourself, look at different sources, different perspectives. Even if you look at the news, for example, I always look at very different news sources. You know, I guess I look at the mainstream US media just to kind of see what's going, but also look at, you know, RT, Russia Today. Do I know it's sponsored by the Russian government? Yes, of course I know that, but it gives me a different perspective.

I look at Chinese news, South China Morning Post. Um, so you, it, that helps you. And that's really the, you know, I remember growing up, um, we just had the local newspapers delivered in your mailbox. Yeah. That's kind of, you know, and then the evening news on television, right? That's about it. But nowadays you can really, thanks to the internet,

you know, you can make up your own mind, do your own research. And yeah, it's a great time to be alive. Yeah, it makes you think, because when we paint certain countries and leaders as villains, it's like, are they actually villains or are we just portraying them that way?

Right? Absolutely. And then you dive into it and usually they're decent people. Like, you know, they're human being, like, like, like you and I, and they have different, different viewpoints. Um, and, uh, but, but I think, uh, ultimately, but that's why the, the message of the Elohim is so important because it's a message that will unify the world. Because once you understand we were all created by the same people, it's not Allah and then there's my God, no, it's the same people who they just send different prophets

at different times, teachers of love, that's how I call them. And when you understand it's almost the same with the actually race, the Elohim on purpose created seven original races on this planet. It's like a filter. Because think about it, would you give your inheritance to a civilization that is primitive, where they kill each other just because of a very slight difference in skin color? No. No.

So that's why the Elohim originally created seven different races. Now, of course, nowadays we've intermixed quite a bit already. Yeah. But that's just a beautiful filter. But once we can see that, it's all... And you know, it's a beautiful filter. But once we, we can see that it's all, and you know, you speak about the conditioning. Yeah, for example, we just had a big campaign, Adam and Eve were black.

We've, you know, we had a billboard campaign in Atlanta and actually worldwide in Africa too. And think about it for black people, you know, they were brutally, in Africa, brutally colonized by the white Christians who told them God is white. Jesus is white. All the angels are white. You don't, you know, how, and I'm always wondering how can you even be Christian as an African because. Would it make sense? No, you know, think about it. But, but the truth is very different. Actually the Elohim too, they have, you know, they were originally seven different, seven different races.

Wow. And, and, um, so, uh, Adam and Eve were black. Yes. Yes. That's what, uh, what Raoul, uh, revealed to us. Holy crap. That's crazy. And it destroys this destroys this, you know

a very Very how should I say white dominated culture, you know, the world culture is very white dominated. Yeah But it's beautiful what we see right now I mean you look at I don't know how much you follow the politics in Africa But not in Africa that much that there's many countries there, you know, they were you know in Africa, but not in Africa that much. There's many countries there, you know, they were, you know, colonized by the French and now they're kicking out the French. And that's beautiful.

And I mean, think about Africa, but, you know, you look at the map of Africa today, right? It's, do you see the lines, how the straight lines for the countries? Yeah. That doesn't, you know, that doesn't occur naturally. No, that's because in 1881, the colonizers got together and kind of split up the continent. Like, you take a cake and just make pieces. And that's why there were a lot of wars,

like the Hutu and the Tutsi in Rwanda, right? Because basically what happened, we put two or multiple tribes, which lived separately for millennia, we put them in the same country. So then they're fighting for power, of course. And so that's really, that's because of the colonization by the white people. And Raoul has been a strong advocate in Africa, he calls for a cultural decolonization. Think about the people always wearing the suits. And again, it's a Western, in Africa, beautiful dresses,

the original African dresses. So a cultural decolonization, a religious one, of course, because they have beautiful religions in Africa before Christianity and Islam came. Economic as well, and in a political, and basically get rid of the colonizing country. And because, you know, think about it, they all had like the French,

they had their There they had their compounds there. They're basically Pretty much elect or make sure the the right person gets elect as president But all that is changing and the same on a global level if you look at you know the with China the new rising rising power equates a The with China, the new rising power equates for at least the last few decades, even centuries, the let's say the Anglo-Sax and the North American European cultures have dominated the planet. Yeah.

And now you can see China coming. Dubai. Yes. Yes. So it's a much more a, which is what humanity should be. We have different colors, different, uh, different cultures. And, and, uh, just as we advocate for, you know, being yourself individually, then that applies to the cultures too. So instead of having kind of like a white dominated European culture worldwide, we see much more of a diversity and that's diversity is what creates a beautiful humanity, right?

Yeah. When you look at a lot of wars, a lot of them seem orchestrated. You know? Yeah. I mean, it's hard to, of course, the winners of every war is always the military industrial complex. Yeah. That's always remembered that. And I mean, Eisenhower talked about it already, right? And I think, you know, even here in the news in the US, right? They say, oh, we sent billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine.

What do you actually mean? I mean, you gave a lot of money to weapons manufacturers here. You can make weapons for people over there. It can kill each other. It's not, you know, when I hear aid, you know, I'm thinking, well, I'm going to bring food or, you know, uh, I don't know, medical supplies. No, it's mainly here making people here rich so they can sell their weapons over there. And many, many, many, many conflicts.

I mean, it's, it's, that's, they're always the winners. These, and that's why the rain philosophy, um, probably the most important teaching is nothing justifies violence. Very important. Nothing justifies violence. If, if somebody comes say by killing this person, we will say a thousand people, 10,000 don't do it. Because once you justify the killing of one person for something good, then why not 10? Why not 100? Doesn't stop.

Why not a thousand? That's probably the most important teaching of the Elohim right now is to nothing justifies violence. It's sad that we have to remind people of that, right? Um, even the, in the old Testament, you know, the do not kill, right? That's kind of, um, but, uh, yes. And then we will truly be able to create a world of peace and, and the Elohim, our creators, they, they really don't want to come into a world of violence.

You know, think about it. Why would they want to come here? Why would somebody from another planet want to come here? If people themselves kill each other just because they're of a different country, of a different race, different religion, doesn't make sense. I mean, most of the astronauts, if you listen to them, they all have this beautiful testimony, right? When they look at the earth from above,

you don't see any border. There's no, you know, USA, Mexico, no, there's no. That's all an illusion, you know? And so, yeah. I hope we could get there one day at a world peace. Cause ever since I was a kid, I remember seeing war on the news or on social media now. Yes, but that's, that's always remember.

I think you bring up an important point and that's, I think, especially in the U S I was born in Switzerland, right? I've been here for 25 years. So I kind of look at it. I mean, I've lived here half my life, but I also have the view of an outsider. The prominent United States, it's very much from an early stage on. The problem in the United States, it's very much from an early stage on, you're being conditioned to the idea of war or through war achieving something good. I mean, it starts in school.

Think about it. Every morning, Pledge of Allegiance to a country to flag that already, oh, I'm American, you know, it's very, and me or us and the others, you know, you already create separation. and me or us and the others, you know, you already create separation. Um, our, that the whole, and then you can, what is the ROTC, you know, basically like this, this pre-military training high school. I mean, you know, think about, so there's, there's very much this, this focus on, on, on, on, and I see it, you know, you go to, uh, you go to a store,

Home Depot, they have special parking for the veterans. So you glorify people who fought in the war. Veteran discounts at almost every company. Yeah. And so you create this idea that somebody who fought, you know, is a good person. And I even, I travel a lot for business and at the airport, I remember there's a soldier, 20 years old, he buys a sandwich. Somebody comes from behind and say,

well, let me buy this for you. Thank you for your service. And I was standing there like, service, what service are we talking about? Who is being served by a soldier going abroad and killing people? Who is being served? Are you kidding me?

So even the words, right? The whole language, we see, we talk about military service. So we're constantly programmed. And then of course the movies, in Hollywood it's always a big conditioning, right? You know, you see Top Gun, whatever. Oh, they fight the bad guys.

We don't, I mean, who tells you these are bad people? I mean, they're in the faraway land and okay. I mean, you know, somebody's, one person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. They would call us terrorists for invading their land. Exactly. So, and that's really, I think you bring up an important point that I think it's really,

it starts with education. So imagine at school, instead of doing this stupid Pledge of Allegiance every morning, what if all the kids would do a peace meditation? Imagine that. That it would totally change. We, the children were grew up in a very different way. They wouldn't want to fight anymore after that.

Um, or instead of, you know, reciting the pledge of allegiance, how about reciting human rights? It, and that's really, if we could just, this is a small example, but if we could replace the Pledge of Allegiance with something peace-oriented, unifying, like meditation, I think we, as Raelians, we do on a regular basis, peace meditations.

And imagine every morning at school, all the kids, before the day started, they do a peace meditation. We change the world very quickly. Yeah. There's a lot of good studies on meditation, how it helps the mind. Yeah. One of the core teachings of the Elohim is to different meditation techniques that we teach. I personally meditate every day, usually in the morning upon awakening. every day, usually in the morning upon awakening.

And it helps you to connect with, with infinity and, and, uh, kind of set the tone for the day, a very harmonious, balanced way to start the day. I love that Thomas. It's been really interesting. Uh, where can people find you and learn more about the movement? Go on our website, rael.org, r-a-e-l.org. Check it out, make up your mind and take from these messages whatever is for you. I hope it brings you happiness and joy and whatever you choose either way have a happy life. I love it. Thanks for coming on. That was fun. Thanks for watching guys. Check out the links below.

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