Digital Social Hour - Ancient Tech Secrets: 5 Marketing Lessons from Lost Civilizations | Matt Lacroix DSH #1065
Episode Date: January 6, 2025🌟 Uncover the hidden truths of ancient civilizations that powerful forces want to keep secret! 🏛️ Join Sean Kelly and special guest Matt as they explore mind-blowing discoveries from Turkey an...d Peru that challenge everything we thought we knew about human history. 🌍 Prepare to have your mind blown as Matt reveals: • Underwater megalithic structures that predate known history 🌊 • Evidence of advanced beings with larger skulls and longer lifespans 💀 • Secret underground cities built to survive catastrophic events 🏙️ • The real story behind Noah's Ark and ancient flood myths 🚢 • How past civilizations may have been more advanced than us 🔮 Don't miss this eye-opening conversation that will make you question everything you've been taught about our past! 🤯 Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly. 🚀 Join the conversation and be part of uncovering humanity's forgotten legacy! 💬 #LostCivilization #AncientSecrets #DigitalSocialHour #billycarson #archaeologyenthusiasts #culturalheritage #historicalinsights #weirdhistory CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:26 - Matt's Recent Travels 05:00 - Prolon Fasting 06:11 - Ancient Civilizations Connections 10:16 - Forgotten History Insights 11:01 - What Would Survive 14:21 - Secret Societies Explained 17:24 - Traditional Archaeology vs Esoteric Knowledge 20:11 - Reincarnation Chamber Concept 23:50 - Fear-Based Control Systems 25:40 - Hermeticism and Natural Law 28:38 - Cycles of the Great Year 30:54 - Current Cycle Analysis 34:30 - Ancient Sites Around Lake Van 38:30 - Pine Cone Symbolism Meaning 42:49 - Noah’s Ark Theories 45:02 - Humanity's Restart Events 47:29 - Largest Underground City 51:40 - Fate of People Underground 57:13 - Flash Frozen Mammoths Discovery 59:59 - Rebuilding the New Golden Age 1:04:08 - Upcoming Documentary Preview 1:05:35 - Ancient Symbols Significance 1:06:33 - Numerology Insights 1:06:56 - Flower of Life Symbolism 1:08:15 - Where to Find Matt APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Matt Lacroix https://www.instagram.com/thestageoftime www.youtube.com/@MatthewLaCroix LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/
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So you think they were humans, these ancient civilizations, you don't think they were
aliens?
They were civilizations connected back to like the very origins of who we once were,
more of a sacred side of our history
and what we used to be.
I would love that, to see more advanced beings before us.
That's exciting, you know?
We seem to have a chapter where there were other types
of even hominids on the earth.
All right, guys, Matt is back on set today.
It's been a while, my friend.
Yeah, it's good to see you and talk to you again, Sean.
Yeah, welcome back.
You've traveled the world since we last spoke.
It's been exciting.
We have had some amazing adventures, Turkey and Peru.
And we're really we're exploring other areas too, whether we have upcoming trips to like
Menorca, Spain and Bolivia and others.
And it's been it's been really amazing getting to places that I've researched for so much of my life, decades,
to be able to get on the ground and finally see them in person and do a lot of analysis and bring experts in to look at them.
Absolutely. So Turkey and Peru are those signs of the oldest civilizations that we know?
Well, I mean, there's other areas as well, like obviously like parts of Egypt and Baalbek, Lebanon and India and China,
but really the focus of these areas of Turkey and not the area that's been discussed a lot
lately like for instance, Gobekli Tepe and Karahan Tepe is getting a lot of attention.
I'm focused more on an area that's actually quite unknown still to the world, areas in
eastern Turkey around Lake Vaugh Van that are brand new sites. Some of them, some of the discoveries
that we can talk about are as new as five years ago,
a year ago, 2017.
So just within the last few years
are new archeological discoveries
that are gonna shake up the entire establishment
in the world.
Wow, so what came to light, I guess,
out over there five years ago?
Well, so back, the first one, I guess guess in 2017 that really opened a lot of this up was they discovered underwater
Ruins under Lake Vaughan that by the way, it's the only
Megalithic underwater ruins in the world now there are
Underwater shallow ruins in some places underwater like off of Egypt and Greece. But what
we're talking about are large megalithic structures that are very deep underneath
Lake Vaughan. In fact, the depth of them is what makes this so interesting. They are
75 feet underwater. Damn. And it was only discovered in 2017 by a photographer that took a group down to uncover them.
And these ruins cover a kilometer in area, massive.
And there's a flower of life carved into these giant basalt blocks that are from what we're
you know, exploring as being an ancient, ancient civilization that may, you know, predate a lot of things that are established
even for what academics are considering for the region. Wow, that is so fascinating. So that must
be hard to explore though because you got to scuba dive, right? We're going to be one of the focuses
of the upcoming documentary that I'm leading with experts around the world is to dive down
and analyze and explore those ruins because of also the connections that they may have
with things that are nearby, above water, that have the same type of stone, the same
geology, the same stonework, the same symbols of these, what I believe are much, much older
lost civilizations from an entire forgotten chapter of our history
that has largely been forgotten and mixed in
with more recent civilizations,
civilizations that may give us
in a completely different understanding of who we are
and the connections we once had with the ancient world.
Wow, you might've discovered Atlantis.
Well, it's got parallels to that because of, again,
the connections around the world to,
is Atlantis just like this global civilization that
is a name that's more about a connection around the world
that something had?
Because that's really what we're exploring
is that Atlantis might not have been even just one location.
It's more like an entire civilization
that spanned around the world.
Wow. That could be an interesting idea, right?
Yeah. Well, that's the idea is that you see similarities off of even places like the Yucatan
of Mexico and some of the structures there with parallels across the world. So we're looking at
it basically in my perception and looking at the evidence is an entire chapter
of human history that's been largely forgotten.
But was this not from the lens of a primitive culture,
like a nomadic hunter gatherer group that had, you know,
flint and steel and just like was traveling around hunting,
you know, hunting large game and moving on
and having small settlements, but literally a chapter
of human civilization where we built the most incredible stone temples and pyramids around
the world and that culture reached high levels.
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It's a sophistication before it was completely destroyed by
Catastrophes that basically wiped them out and it had the memory of what we used to be be largely forgotten, right?
So you think they were humans these ancient civilizations. You don't think they were aliens. No, I think that they were
So you think they were humans, these ancient civilizations, you don't think they were aliens? No, I think that they were civilizations connected back to the very origins of who we once were,
back to more of a sacred side of our history and what we used to be.
Right.
I would love that, to see more advanced beings before us.
That's exciting, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
We seem to have a chapter where there were other types of even hominids on
the earth. Hominids that, for instance, had larger skulls. We're looking at different
skulls from around the world, places like Malta and Paracas, Peru and Tiwanaku, and
even areas around the Black Sea where there may have been a genetic, a different kind of human,
like a genetically unique type of human,
that we don't share the same comparisons today in that way.
Those are what I remember from history class in school,
those caveman-type humans, right, with all the elongated skulls.
Well, I think one of the misconceptions, though,
is that we think of Ne misconceptions is that we look,
we think of Neanderthals as a group
that was a very primitive group that came before,
but what we're looking at is a chapter
that may have coexisted with them at the same time,
but is not from a primitive lens.
We may have had different hominid groups here
that were as sophisticated as we are, if not more,
that actually died out.
And then the remnants of them was like just a forgotten memory.
We had even aspects of other genetic differences in places of the world where there may be
even smaller humans and some larger humans.
One of the things that a lot of people don't know is that in during Magellan's sailing around the world when he was
circumnavigating the planet when he was in Patagonia down off South America he in it's
well established in his records when he his his journal entries with his his the group that he
was sailing with is that they encountered people off of Patagonia that were over 10 feet tall. Whoa, giants.
Yeah, and they actually were they had to leave because they were basically scared away by this group that were somewhat violent in some means.
But the whole concept that's fascinating is, is there an entire chapter of our story where there were humans that lived longer, were taller, had larger brains in some
ways, larger heads. We're finding evidence of that all around the world and it seems that,
and I believe that this idea of cranial and binding we see like in Africa and other places
may have been just a means of mimicking someone that used to actually exist in a more in a genetic
way, not something where they altered their skull size.
So that's the Anunnaki you're talking about, right?
Well, it may have ties back to that,
is this whole idea that, like we see with Diodorus
and Solon, they discuss this whole idea of,
like almost like a demigod type of race
that existed during Atlantis,
and this time period where there were almost like
half human, half gods that lived enormous amounts of time.
We see that like with Enoch,
we see that with the whole Noah figure, Ziah's Sudra,
this concept of human beings living
for enormous amounts of time.
And having this whole chapter that we used to have
that we don't understand anymore.
That's become almost like a fairy tale and a mystery to us.
You know, I'll give you an example like places like, for instance, Troy is discussed in the
Iliad and others, right, by Homer.
It was this idea, this concept of civilizations and Greek myths and different cities that
weren't real.
And yet in the 1800s, they found Troy in Western Turkey.
And that's the same thing we're seeing with places
like Eridu and Sherupak in modern day Mesopotamia,
places that were supposed to be a myth,
that were not supposed to be real, end up being found.
And then it makes us have to reevaluate
our entire understanding of history.
Wow, that is nuts. Why do you think a lot of this history gets forgotten? Do you think there's some
foul play there? Well, there's a combination of a couple of things going on, I believe.
Number one, we have to look at these time periods that have enormous amounts of time in between them.
You know, the civilizations that we're looking at and finding evidence around the world,
you know, working with experts, looking at different places where the civilizations that we're looking at and finding evidence around the world, you know, working with experts, looking at different places where the civilizations may have disappeared,
you know, 12,000 years ago.
Look at all human beings have done the last 500 to 600 years.
We were basically thrown back into the Middle Ages that that long ago, and yet we're talking
about not even a thousand years. Now imagine civilizations that have been gone for 12,000 years.
You know, what would be left from them?
How much would we understand of them and how much of that would just turn into a myth
and something that we would almost believe wasn't true any longer?
Right. It's like that game Telephone we played growing up.
No, exactly. Like someone starts by telling a story and by the time it gets to the end, you know, it's completely
different than where it started. 100%. Yeah. But that was before you could just document
stuff. Now I feel like the history we're living present day, I feel like they'll retain it
better. Right? Well, I don't know about that. Really? I mean, what would, what would actually
survive us if say 2000 years went by after destruction?
You know, if we had a massive CME event, coronal mass ejection event, something beyond our
comprehension in modern history, but something we're seeing evidence of, you know, during
the geomagnetic incursion back 12,000 years ago, you know, what would be left of us after
2000 years of basically wiping out civilization.
You know, we think about how we build with either wood or glass or metal.
Those things would just erode and disappear.
Digital records that we have most of things kept, paper, 500 to a thousand years in the best of conditions.
Really? So you have to imagine, think about what we have in our world.
What would actually survive us? Wow. What would be remembered from us in 2,000 years? Would they even know that we existed?
Hmm. Think about what would survive. The only thing that really survives the test of time like that is
incredibly precise and hard stonework. You know, the types of stone like granite and basalt and other stone
that is extremely hard. Yeah, that things that would last the test of time. And here
we have this telltale evidence around the world of them building out of those things.
And yet we look at the lens of them being primitive. Wow. But they have the things left
over that have survived the test of time. That's a great point.
We haven't built anything like that in our generation.
No, what would be left of us?
We built skyscrapers, but those would just
collapse probably.
Glass and metal.
Things would just corrode and break away.
I think what we need to do is wrap our heads around how
much time like 2,000 or 3,000 years is.
Now imagine 12,000 years since they existed and what would
actually be left to them. And to be honest, I mean, if we look around the world at what
is left, it's rather impressive compared to what may be left from us. Right. That's why
we have to look at this lens in a different way of saying, look at this entire lost civilization
that has evidence
all around the world, whether or not we go to like Tonga, the Mariana Islands with these
huge pillars that the local indigenous groups have no idea who built them. They say Maui
built them. And is that evidence of like an ancient Lemurian Mu connection, just like
we see with Lantis? You know, that the remnants of the echoes
of a long civilization that's been gone
for thousands and thousands of years.
And even the indigenous people that live there say,
we're not the ones who built them.
There was someone here before us,
someone who is highly sophisticated
and spiritually inclined and more connected
and built things in a way
that we don't build things
anymore. It's like a forgotten idea of who we once were. Yeah. You think there's any lineage
that survived from those ancient times or do you think completely wiped out everyone?
It's interesting when we look at secret societies around the world and through a history,
secret societies that are sort of hiding in the shadows at times. And I think that those are potentially connected back, at least they believe they are,
to certain bloodlines that go all the way back to these original groups and these people.
Now, does that mean some kind of like a superiority?
No, I don't think so at all.
I just, I believe that they think that there are certain connections that still exist with those groups.
Yeah, you're talking like the Illuminati and stuff.
Right.
I never even wondered how old those go back, but that could be true.
Well, there's old families like the Rothschilds and others that seemed in the Sinclair's and
others that state or believe that they have connections back to a much more ancient lineage.
Wow.
I mean, we see other destructive figures
in throughout history and empires
who have literally believed that enough
to fight entire wars and conquer other nations.
And it's a history that I think we're fighting
over the scraps of trying to remember this legacy
of a grand civilization that was in many ways more sophisticated in some aspects than
we were. You know, their understanding, like look at the Great Pyramid of Giza. It's built to be a
perfect half ratio of our entire earth that's created the three pyramids to create it to be
this mimicking of the relationship between our Earth, the Sun, and the Moon,
but also the constellation of the three belt stars of Orion.
And that gets into the Hermetic laws, the constants,
that are basically ancient Egyptian and Greek knowledge
of these laws that exist in the universe and on Earth,
that if you adhere to them,
you can create some kind of a synergy between
like creating structures here on earth that almost bridge that heaven on
earth connection, right? As above so below, as within so without. That's the ancient
Hermetic law of correspondence that these civilizations seem to adhere to
with why they built in very specific places. Yeah, because architecture
itself is impressive, but the fact that you mentioned all that too on top of it,
it's like these guys were way more advanced
than we can even fathom.
Yeah, they were building in a way
that it's not random at all.
They were going to very specific parts of the earth.
It's a term called geodesy.
It refers to building in very specific spots
and aligning to cardinal points and magnetic points
and ley lines in which you can create this synergy
between the magnetic fields of the earth
and star constellations and our connection
between the sun, earth, and the moon,
which seem to have a relationship with the whole.
It's basically this idea that you can create
a cosmic connection.
And when you do that, you can unlock these secret abilities of humans
and abilities here that we have, almost like magic.
Right. So is this where you start to lose the traditional archaeologists?
Is this where that divide starts?
Yeah, I think that one of the big disconnects between archaeology today,
and I'm working with archaeologists on this project
and the work that we're doing. But one of the biggest disconnects has been this idea that they
look at it through a completely physical lens. Like if you're an archaeologist and you're trying
to understand these ancient temples aligned to energetic ley lines and magnetic fields and
aspects of our sun, earth, moon and the constellations.
If you don't understand the metaphysical spiritual realms, how are you going to understand why
they built things they did the way they are? How are you going to understand the energetic
nature of why they did things?
Right. That's important. But they're so logical that it has to be like a factor, like evidence
based, right? Well, it's just because I think that the academic world
has too many divisions within it.
Too many divisions between
the metaphysical understanding of reality
and the physical understanding of reality.
We have to come at this through the lens
of like an esoteric mind.
We have to combine philosophy, science,
and the metaphysical side of nature to understand why these civilizations did what they did.
And once we do that, I think the danger, Sean, in why these conversations haven't moved forward in the right way is that to this day, we're still taught in school that consciousness is simply derived from the brain. Right. And it's something where we, you know, we get
intelligent enough and consciousness develops through the brain and we die
and that's it. Our existence just disappears into nothing. But that doesn't
seem to be the case at all. In fact, the ancients around the world believe
something very, very different. And not like the primitive ancients, but for instance, like ancient Egyptians
place these subterranean places like the Osirion and the Serapium where they built these very mysterious
giant granite boxes over a hundred tons with there was no one was buried inside them. What was their purpose?
Was this some kind of a chamber for
for like an incarnation chamber or some kind of rejuvenation chamber? You know, the ancient Egyptians believed that
if somebody died, they could somehow bring them back through the reincarnation cycle
to have them live again. It really, what it tells us, Sean, is that we are actually eternal
beings.
Wow.
They never truly die.
We just go through cycles of living each life and then come back through karmic laws and
learning new things to grow and ascend as a metaphysical, spiritual being that's having
a physical experience here, not the other way around.
That is fascinating.
So the Egyptians were trying to control
the reincarnation cycle.
Exactly.
That's cool.
And they believed that if a soul was a person
and through their soul was given the right journey
that they could cycle back and find their way back again.
Whoa.
Right, so the idea was this,
that if somebody dies, that was really important to them.
Yeah. Right, an ancient bloodline, as some kind of dies, that was really important to them, right?
An ancient bloodline of some kind of a king that was connected to the divine, some kind
of a demigod or something, that if they put them through a process through their death
of certain rituals, certain metaphysical rituals and physical rituals, that they could allow
that soul to travel through the stars of Orion and make
their way back and then incarnate again as a child that they could track and trace through
that journey.
And then they could have them back again as a leader, as a ruler.
That is crazy.
And they pull that off?
Has there been documentation on that?
What's wild is there's what's called the Egyptian King list that matches the Sumerian King list.
And a lot of people don't talk about the Egyptian king list,
but one of the things that's on it,
and we find that through Edfu, ancient sites like that,
the Temple of Horus, is that this king list
includes kings that were existing
before dynastic Egyptians that had reigns
of hundreds and hundreds of years.
But what we find is that those,
that the rulers that came later
lived much shorter lifespans.
Like there was an entire different chapter.
When those, again, like almost like a demigod type of ruler
that was, that could live for hundreds of years
and then reigned and ruled.
And those are well established in those kings lists.
Interesting.
So they were just using the same name,
but he would just be in different bodies,
basically, for hundreds of years?
Yeah, like they would say something like Osiris,
the first or the second, or Ramesses,
the first or the second.
It would be like they were tracing
these lineages of different beings that are they just
the incarnation of a previous one that lived,
and then they kept passing down through?
It's really mysterious, but they're not the only group that was mapping the underworld
as they call it, the spiritual realm.
The Egyptians were doing it, and especially the ancient Sumerians and Babylonians.
And there's other groups as well, like the Greeks.
I mean, the story of Sharon, right?
The boatman, the ferryman, where you put, you go into the underworld and you can pass into the story of Sharon right the boatman the ferryman where you put you go into the underworld
And you can pass into this to the underworld of souls
You know we see that that story first echoed through like the epic of Gilgamesh
Where Gilgamesh goes to seek the flood heroes?
I as udra to seek immortality has to pass through the underworld to get there crazy
They didn't just believe this.
It was their foundation of understanding.
They wrote about it in nearly everything.
For instance, one of the most famous
of the ancient Sumerian myths and tablets
is called the descent of Anana,
in which Anana, one of these ancient goddesses,
descends down to go find Dumuzi,
one of her lovers, that died and was in the underworld
and has to go and try to seek him and find him again.
Whoa.
It's wild and we see it echoed
through so much of our media and movies,
but it's actually has a basis in ancient mythology
that the underworld and the spiritual realms
play very, very pivotal aspects of our reality,
but because of the limitations of our five senses,
we really lack an understanding of the totality
of what reality really encompasses.
Yeah, that is so cool.
Now people have such a different perception of death.
I wonder when that change happened.
Well, I mean, think about it.
If you're told that death is the end
and that you should fear death,
like the church has done after the Holy Roman Empire,
the Byzantine Empire,
if you inflict that kind of mentality in,
you can literally control a person entirely.
The fear-based systems like that
are how you control someone,
because then if they fear their own mortality, they're not going to take as
many chances in life.
They're not going to really seek something higher because they're going to be
worried about the more primitive aspects of life, right?
How do I stay alive?
How do I survive?
I'm living in fear.
I'm going to stay in a small mindset box.
That's so true though.
Well, that fear is powerful.
Yeah. Fear has controlled humanity for thousands of years. It's a powerful tool. And one of the
ways that fear controls us is through the idea of death and the false knowledge of what we really
are and how these cycles all play in. If Sean Kelly like knows that he's gonna incarnate
again in the next life, you know, what does that do to your fear levels and or
your understanding of reality? I would take way more chances. And you would also
probably want to leave, like you are, leaving a legacy of something, right? Yeah.
That you may not do if you were thinking, well I need to try to consume whatever
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Yeah. That's so spot on. I used to fear death as a kid, dude, even like eight years old.
Like I remember being in elementary, like, oh, I don't want to die. You know, a lot of
it limits everything. It limits our, um, it's like there's a, there's a lock that, that,
that ties that, that hooks around us
and prevents us from opening up our mind
and seeing the greater reality that exists all around us.
And I highly encourage people to study things
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Like for instance, one of the things
that people may not know is that one of Isaac Newton's
most important esoteric things that he studied
before all of his theories,
was what's called the Emerald Tablet of Hermes. It's a Hermetic tablet, not the same as the Emerald
Tablet set of Thoth in Egypt. The Emerald Tablet is ancient Hermetic knowledge of philosophy and
alchemy. And it ties into what are called natural law or cosmic laws
Which is what I brought up before as the idea of the it's called the law of correspondence as above so below as within so without
it's this idea that everything in the cosmos is connected and
That what's reflected in the universe and out in the cosmos is reflected here on earth
And that we the Earth has a synergy
that it plays out through humanity on a great stage.
Like Shakespeare said, right?
All of the world is a stage.
We're all playing roles within that.
Simulation theory, right?
Yeah, that we're a part of something far greater
than most of us understand.
And that we're on a great stage of experience.
And that what happens with that within humanity
through the archetypes of humanity is basically being played out in the entire universe.
Yeah, that is nuts. Yeah, you've studied a lot of these ancient texts, right?
Yeah. Yeah. My favorite, again, all the different Hermetic texts, I would highly encourage because
it's based on ancient Egyptian and Greek knowledge. Again, like the Emerald Tablet,
the vision of the vision of Hermes, right?
I highly recommend all the Hermetic texts
that they've woven down through that,
as well as things like the Book of Enoch,
the Nag Hammadi scriptures, right?
The Book of John, the Secret Book of John,
they all are these forbidden texts,
ancient Gnostic texts and ancient pre-Hebrew and Hebrew texts,
and all the way back to ancient Sumerian texts from the tablets that all discuss these esoteric
and mysterious aspects of spirit and alchemy and how really the path of the human journey here,
the hero's journey, is about the alchemical transformation
of our physical experience here
into a spiritual metaphysical experience
and that it's an alchemical experience
because we start as spirit,
we come from spirit as a higher place
and we go through a circle.
Everything is all about circles, okay?
It's never time and the linear
aspects that we're told are actually very false. Everything is more of a
giant circle. There's no beginning and there's no end. Just like our
experience here is about starting somewhere and then circling back to where
we started. It's just because it's an endless amount of loops and cycles that
continues and it seems to be based on these aspects of Earth,
the sun, the moon, going through cycles of influences
of our galactic center, influences of the planets,
maybe even influences in the outer solar system
that relate to cycles of consciousness based on what's called
the procession of the equinox or the great year.
Are you familiar with that? No, I would just say. So the earth has a tilt or a wobble
to it. So when it spins on its axis, it actually has a tilt to it. And the tilt is based on
what's called the procession of 2,100 years.
And the entire cycle that the Earth rotates around
facing different constellations
is what's called the Great Year.
And it's made up of, again, the 12 zodiacs.
It's the 12 different constellations
that the Earth faces during certain intervals
that seem to be a pivotal
part of why human beings go through these cycles. So right, like cycles of like the lost civilizations
like we talked about, right? Building pyramids and temples and being connected to a super
metaphysical spiritual side and then being knocked back again and then going through a war-like period of
Conquering and being more primitive before cycling back again to reach more conscious periods It basically mimics these cycles of the great year
They're called the Yuga cycles out of India and it's fascinating
So was oh god
well
they're related to the idea that we go through things like iron and bronze ages
and silver ages and then golden ages, and that those cycles are actually predetermined
and governed.
And I mean, we can talk about why those are governed and who governs them.
Absolutely.
But we seem to be part of a much greater type of system here of cycles that are governed through exterior forces in which we are more like actors that are in a great play that are going through these cycles and
that's what leads to the rise and fall of consciousness and also leads to us being warlike or
Wanting to seek higher esoteric places so cool
So what cycle are we in right now?
And then we'll get to who's running these.
Well, look at what's going on with the sun.
The sun is having these massive aurora borealis events,
these influences of greater energy
that seems to be hitting us.
And that seems to also be playing a role,
just like the ancients times did,
where the sun activity may be playing a part in these zodiac changes
with consciousness.
All these, as energy blasts the earth, we all of a sudden kind of just like wake up
from a slumber and we're like, wait, what are we doing right now?
You know, why are we doing all these very materialistic kind of fear-based, war-based
things?
And as those cycles transition, we all of a sudden,
as a species, change into something else, like a transformation, like a phoenix transformation
out of the ashes from what we were, we all of a sudden blossom like a flower into something new.
And those cycles are, seem to be governed from an ancient place.
Really?
Yeah.
So some would call it God, right?
Well the again I go back to ancient hermeticism and I would highly encourage people to study something like the vision of Hermes
It describes how there is an archetype at the very top or an architect like an ancient architect
Who some would call God and it describes how it was like this perfect creation of the universe
God and it describes how it was like this perfect creation of the universe, but that there was a what's called the second mind that was created in order to foster all aspects of creation within
that and balance all cycles. So all cycles within that are actually essentially governed. Now,
in the Naumahadi, it calls them the archons, basically the rulers, the rulers of reality.
And I think that the term that might be more familiar
to some, for instance, the ancient Sumerians
call them the Anuna.
The Akkadians and Assyrians call them the Anunnaki.
And then if we look in Hebrew times,
they're called the Elohim.
And ancient Egypt, they're called the Netiru. It's basically like
the ancient gods. And they're the ones who were described as being the ones that foster and balance
all cycles here. And that humanity is a product of those cycles and that governing so that we,
it's like some kind of a grand story playing out Yeah, so we think of it as humanity being in charge of its own destiny
but really the where it comes down to is there's a fine line between free will and destiny that seems to play into this and
That destiny seems to play a very big role
As in it's as in that the governing aspect of our reality and the ancient times is coming from something
that is more mysterious and more powerful
than we really understand.
Yeah, that's a lot to take in
because as humans you wanna have free will, right?
But it seems like there's some really big
destiny behind things.
Well, it's like a two-part process
is that we're given free will to make our own choices.
But once we walk a certain path, and we start following things like intuition,
and the higher guidance and start becoming more connected, something unlocks in us.
It's like all of a sudden we become something different. We become part of something different.
And that's where it describes as it's like radio stations.
It's like a word antenna that basically tunes in
to something else and all of a sudden,
we become part of like a different story.
That is crazy, dude.
Wow, you're really uncovering a lot.
Well, and that's why we're studying these ancient sites
around the world because how it all ties back
is that areas
that I'm particularly focused on,
like in Eastern Turkey around Lake Van,
we have ancient temples and sites
that the world hasn't even heard of yet.
Places like Ionis and Kef Kalesi,
Shavu's Tepe, Toprakali, Asferinatepe, Alton Tepe.
And they contain symbols, Sean,
ancient motifs and symbols that go and connect
to nearly every lost civilization place around the world,
like Peru, Bolivia, ancient Egypt, ancient Greece.
What they have are symbols and artifacts that are coming out
that are showing these teachings that seem to go all the way
back and connect everything
hermeticism.
Like, for instance, if you study these laws and these constants out of ancient Egypt and
ancient Greece and these others, and you look at the symbols that are left there, you realize
that they're all the same.
Like there was a lost knowledge of understanding who we are in our greater capacity in the universe and how we can achieve
unlocking our greatest aspect of ourselves. And the teachings are laid down in these artifacts
and temples left behind for a future time when humanity can finally understand it.
One of the wild things is Sean that we're finding evidence, like especially Ionis and Kef Kalesi, that later
civilizations deliberately buried them to try to conceal them and protect them because of the
volatile world that they were living in. Dang. So it seems like there was some sort of takeover,
whether it was hostile or I don't know what happened. Well, like giving an example is in
these civilizations that I'm studying that the documentary is focused
on like again the underwater ruins I just talked about showing the flower of life and everything,
the very pivotal aspect of us understanding the balance of everything and the harmony that exists
is that they, the cultures that came later seem to incorporate a lot of their knowledge into their
cultures, right? The culture that we, that archeologists believe
built all of these is called the Urutu or Uratians.
And that the word Urutu just means error at,
like Mount Ararat.
Now, they incorporated a lot of knowledge into their culture.
However, the time that they lived,
around 3,800 years ago, 3,000 years ago,
they were, it was a volatile time on the earth. They were in
constant war with Mesopotamian civilization to the south, like the Babylonians and the Assyrians. And
so you imagine you're in a warlike world where there's empires conquering each other. There is
ancient knowledge in those cultures, but it's also such a volatile
time that they're being conquered and burned and destroyed.
And so if you knew that you were in a place that it was had ancient knowledge, that was
from a much earlier time, a sacred knowledge, you would want to try to protect it, right?
And so we're seeing evidence that they that culture called the or two your artians
Deliberately buried some of these sites in order to preserve and protect them so that someday in the future
Cultures that came along that were of a higher consciousness in a more peaceful time
Could go find them again Wow and return to the knowledge that we once had. And these regions are very important to ancient cultures around the world.
Like for instance, this area around Lake Vaughan was visited by Alexander the Great and Xerxes
and the Knights Templar.
The same cross that we see at Ionis is the exact same cross that became the benchmark of the cross
for the Knights Templar,
as well as the cross that we see in the Vatican.
Holy crap.
Today, it's like that knowledge was still preserved
in the echelons of secret societies and religions.
And they've been fighting over it for thousands of years.
It's like a time capsule.
Right, like for instance, look in front of the Vatican.
Not only do you have that same cross
that we see at Ionis, that's in the Knights Templar and that's mimicked in the Maltese cross,
but you see the pine cone, a giant statue of a pine cone in front of the Vatican. And guess what?
The same artifact that I'm talking about from Kef Kalesi, it's called the Kef Kolesi Bav relief, a giant three foot
by three foot by four foot basalt artifact that has all of these symbols like the first
cup and the symbols of the doorways, the triptych doorways we see around the world, like in
the ancient Mayans and Egyptians and in ancient Peru.
But not only that, but we see, Sean,
the passing of the pine cone in their hand,
just like we see in ancient Mesopotamia.
It's no coincidence that in front of the Vatican,
they have a giant pine cone sitting in front of that.
The pine cone of the seeds of knowledge
and the pineal gland.
The idea of unlocking this greater aspect
of consciousness in humanity.
And again, like I mentioned that exact same cross, not the cross used in Christianity,
but the cross that's on in within things like, um, um, within the Vatican on the, in the
Royals and also in the Pope on the, within the, the miter hat and within the cloak that
they were in on the staff
and all of that it shows the same cross as the Knights Templar but that I believe goes back to
Ionis as basically like this ancient knowledge and understanding that became fought over literally
fought over around the world and tried to be controlled so that I think that humanity could
forget about its ancient lineage of what they once were so that they could be controlled easier.
Crazy. Have you been to the Vatican?
Not yet.
I heard the gate keep a lot of stuff there though.
Definitely. Well, I mean, the Vatican archives has all of these ancient texts that were taken out of things like Abrahamic religions and the, you know, the Holy Bible and all these things where chapters,
like for instance, the Book of Enoch
was completely removed from the original text
that it was supposed to be in there
from the council, it's called the Council of Nicaea
during the Holy Roman Empire.
They basically went through and decided
what writings they wanted to keep in
and what they wanted to remove and what they wanted to alter. And of when of course a lot of people have discussed that on this channel with you
Yeah, how there's certain things that have been removed and then kept but there's been a lot of other things that have been hidden and
Taken down there because I don't I think that they thought that humanity wasn't ready for it yet
And that's my biggest problem with the Bible because I have on a lot of Christians and like even pastors and stuff
But my thing is that's not the original text. No, it's definitely not
It's just a collection of much more ancient things. That's what I'm saying
Like if you're gonna study something wouldn't you want the original source? That's non biased
You if you want to study things that came in there in the Bible in things like Genesis
What you really need to be studying are the much more ancient versions of those.
Like for instance, studying the Atrahasis in the Epic of Gilgamesh and Erudu Genesis
and Myth of Adapa and Legend of Itzubar, these are all Sumerian, Akkadian, and Babylonian
tablets that come that date, date, predate the Bible by thousands and thousands of years.
It's where all those stories originated from.
Wow.
Especially the whole Noah mythos that, again, if we look at today, there's a very important
set of tablets that actually just got translated fully called the Babylonian world map. And
it is the oldest map of the world in existence. And it describes this landing of the Ark up in Mount Ararat and the original ancient world
that the Babylonians saw and basically connects all the things that I'm doing right now in
that Ararat region of eastern Turkey that has again the cross and the first chalice
and the pine cone and this tryptic doorway, all this knowledge that
we see around the world seems to originate from a very esoteric and mysterious place.
It's where they buried all these sites to try to protect them.
Interesting.
For a future time period.
So Noah's Ark actually happened.
I believe that the story that we see in Genesis and the Bible is a very rewritten version
of something that had a very, very significant basis in ancient Sumerian, Akkadian, and Babylonian
cultures.
And we see that all throughout the tablets.
And again, like I mentioned, it gets into very distinct details of a disaster that was
coming for the world of a great flood, not the whole world,
but especially for that region in which there was an ancient king and a priest named Ziyah Sudra,
who became the Noah figure, who was warned of this catastrophe by his patron god Enki secretly,
because they, again, it describes how the Anuna, these ancient gods had a pact that they weren't
supposed to tell humanity, and that they essentially wanted to wipe out the seed of humanity and
start over again.
And that he was warned of this event and was told to build this large boat out of cedar,
a massive one to bring his family and some animals he had to start and create a new golden
age on earth. And that his three sons,
Japis, Shem and Ham, would essentially carry on his lineage and create a new world.
And what we found that's so fascinating, Sean, is that at these sites around Lake Vaughan,
that most of the world has never heard of yet, we have kings lists there.
Specifically, one of them at Shavu's Tepe that directly
mentions the lineage of King Haik and these other rulers that are ancient Armenian rulers
that are literally descendants of that lineage of that family. And it shows right in the
descendant line that that actually was real and it happened.
Crazy.
That the stories, these ancient Hebrew and pre-Hebrew stories were actually real
and that there was a whole chapter of history that was connected to these lost civilizations from
these pre-biblical ancient Sumerian, Akkadian descendants that were, their task was to essentially
create like a new world. And that there was what we call Adapa and the seven sages
that were traveling around the world creating civilizations.
That is nuts.
How many times do you think humanity has been restarted?
From studying things like ice cores from Antarctica and Greenland
and really looking at climatic data, but also geologic data, right?
I was just in Turkey with a famous,
famous geologist, Dr. Robert Schock, and we were looking at vitrification evidence on
these huge basalt blocks. Vitrification means melting of the stone. Now, in order to get
that, you have to have temperatures that exceed 2000 degrees. And you can only get that in
extreme climatic events
throughout history, which gives us a benchmark to look at, well, when did these things happen?
You know, if these stones were built before these events, it means that they're older
than the events occurred, right? And it's giving us a benchmark for how old they could
be and when they occurred. And so when we look at this evidence of damage and this evidence
of destruction in these places, it shows us that there have been at least one, if not two chapters,
at least I believe two, chapters of human civilization that have risen up and fallen back
again, risen up and then fallen back again. The problem was after the second time, what we call the younger dryus around 11,600 years
ago when it ended, the division between what's known as the Pleistocene and the Holocene,
the time we're in now, it looks like we had, like you just had Graham on, we had a total
reset of our species with amnesia where we literally forgot
everything because so much time went by in between that we forgot the knowledge of what
we once had.
And we got knocked back to a more primitive means.
And that's why humanity developed through the Iron and Bronze Age into a very primitive
kind of warlike culture,
because we went a completely different direction. Wow. Yeah, because there used to be a ton of wars,
right? Thousands of years ago. Well, our civilization went through a completely different
path than it once did. And again, I think it gets back into the Yuka cycles, these this great year,
these different zodiac cycles is during Pisces. And before we got into this very
violent warlike period where consciousness became very low and humanity went through a different
path that it once did. But we have to remember that in ancient northern Mesopotamia, southern Turkey,
there are, have you heard of the massive underground cities like Derinkuyu?
No.
Turkey, there are, have you heard of the massive underground cities like Derinkuyu? No.
In southern Turkey, the largest underground cities in the world have been, that have been
found in actually some of them were found by accident within the last 50 years.
They were, there was somebody doing excavations in the modern day city of Derinkuyu today.
It's above and they, it's a funny story.
Actually, there was a farmer that had chickens that,
and he had a small building apartment
that had a corridor between them.
And the chickens were disappearing somewhere into a hole.
And he was like, his chickens were coming back
and he couldn't figure out where they were going.
And so he found a crack that they were slipping through
and he knocked down a wall
and entered in unintentionally opened up a gateway doorway down into the largest underground
city in the world called Darren Kuyu that has like 25 levels underground that could have housed, they believe could have housed up to 20,000
people.
Dang.
Underneath them.
Created in these massive settings that were done in such a way, Sean, that Darren Kuyu
ended up not being the only underground city in the region.
They found there was another city five and a half miles from it called Kaimakli.
And now what's wild about it is that at the very bottom
of these underground areas, they're basically like
giant corridors that have interconnected levels
that then go underground.
Like if you were to look at like an ant farm
or a worm farm where they have different levels
that they're all living in, it was like these giant corridors
that were cut into the rock,
that go down into the earth,
more than a quarter mile.
And they have these giant stones
that get rolled in front of the doorway to seal them off.
Now what's wild though, Sean,
is that Darren Kuhu's sister city called Kaimakli,
instead of people traveling between it above the ground, they created
a five and a half mile tunnel corridor at the very bottom between the cities so that
people wouldn't have to go above ground at all.
Like they like it was such a volatile time period above that they the civilizations,
the only way they were surviving through generations was to go down and secure themselves, bring food and resources.
They had evidence of animals being, that were brought down, they had evidence of schools,
evidence of where living quarters, places to prepare food, air shafts.
These civilizations were preparing for like the end of the world to survive underneath.
And they went to such great lengths
that they literally could travel and traverse
between underground cities
without even having to go above ground.
Wow.
How would they pull that off though?
They must've had some technology back then.
We have no idea because none of the rock
that they took out of these places has ever been found.
They're so ancient that all the evidence
for how they built them and what they did is just gone.
Damn.
What would you theorize though,
if you had to guess on how they did it?
They used some kind of either ancient machines or tools
that we don't know what they are.
But they went to such great lengths to create them
that they obviously realized that it was of grave importance
to the survival of their
civilizations. It was an area built in this very soft kind of volcanic porous material that they
were able to carve down into. And it's basically right in the center of the ancient world. So,
think about what I'm talking about with these civilizations around Lake Van in eastern Turkey
and then areas like in western Turkey and then southern Mesopotamia,
this region of Turkey is this kind of higher plateau area that's right in the center of all of it.
And I can only imagine these ancient cultures all had been aware of a previous cycle of what had happened to them.
And so they had created those underground areas to then survive
another one. But the scariest part is Sean, that there's no evidence that they ever came back out.
Whoa. So for instance, like again, the whole idea of species with amnesia is what could have happened
to totally reset us. If you have cultures that are carrying knowledge down of their ancient
ways and all the knowledge that they once knew, the fact that our civilization
didn't take very much of that with us and we got knocked down to a very
primitive time means that most of them probably never made it back out.
Think about it right now, if we're looking at climatic events over a period of like 1,500 years,
periodic climatic events that are far more destructive
than anything we've seen in thousands of years here on Earth,
thousands of years, things like nuclear winters
from coronal mass ejection events
where there's radioactivity and climatic things
that are so severe that ice ages are
taking over and you're getting incredibly volatile time periods where you can't even
be on the surface.
Imagine them going down there and trying to survive for generations, entire people, kids
being born that never even see the above world, that have to live their entire life underground.
And how many generations can go by before,
they just never come back out again
because they run out of resources and they don't survive.
It looks like, I believe that the cultures
that went down there,
because we're talking about hundreds of years potentially, they could have not come back out.
So they all died, you think?
Well, I mean, it's not like all the people on earth died or we wouldn't be here.
But I think, like look at today.
Don't we have places in the world like in the Amazon or remote islands off of India
and Africa, where there are people that live so primitive
that they're literally closed off to the outside world.
Right?
They're living completely in harmony with the nature.
They have no technology.
You know, Papua New Guinea and other places,
they have no connection to this technological world
like we do, right?
Yep.
But we're living in the same world as they are, right?
The same time period.
I think it was much the same in the ancient world,
is that there were indigenous groups around the world
at that time that were living in pockets
that didn't get nearly as affected.
Giving you an example, like parts of Africa
and the Amazon didn't seem to have the same effects
from these climatic events that other areas did.
Mm, so they didn't get hit with the same effects from these climatic events that other areas did.
So they didn't get hit with the ice age in Africa? And just other things like massive tsunamis, huge CME events. It wasn't across the whole
earth in an even way. When we had these magnetic incursions and shifts on the poles,
it looks like parts of the earth got a lot more affected than others.
Makes sense.
I'll give you an example. What are called megafauna are large mammals, right? If you look around the earth, most of the megafauna that are still here, like Randall Carlson talks about,
are mostly in Africa. During the last ice age, during the Pleistocene, most of the large megafauna
in the Northern Hemisphere and and southern hemisphere all went extinct.
It's estimated that 44 million megafauna, million, like woolly mammoths and mastodons
and you know saber-tooth tigers, maybe saber-tooth cats, all these creatures, dire wolves, right?
They were all real creatures that existed around the world. They were wiped out at the same exact time period
that all the evidence is showing
that the ancient civilizations and the temples
and the blocks were all destroyed and scattered everywhere
and that the cultures that lived there were wiped out.
Wow.
So we're looking at, you know, ice cores and climatic data
is lining up with the disappearance of this lost civilization around the world with the destruction of
the megafauna all across the world as well in the northern and southern
hemisphere. I'll give you an example. In the early 1900s, there was a
whole group that was exploring the new Siberian islands up in above Siberia in Canada, and they found a 25 foot alder tree
that had green leaves that had been flash frozen. 25 feet tall.
Okay. Guess what though? It's hundreds of miles north of
where any trees can grow. Okay? At the same time, in the area of the New Siberian Islands,
they found mammoths that were completely frozen as well
in a state of basically preserving with food,
undigested foods still in their throats and stomachs.
Now, it's kind of funny, but Purdue, of all companies, is the one who ended up doing a
study because they freeze food, right?
They did a study on these Macedons and they had to determine how that could have happened
without them putrefying, like rotting.
And what they determined is that the Macedons had to have been frozen at negative 150 degrees
Fahrenheit.
Whoa.
So today, the coldest temperature that's ever been recorded in modern history
is like 127 degrees below zero in Antarctica, okay?
It means that during this time period
that those megafauna disappeared around the earth.
We also had this massive flash freeze
across the Northern hemisphere
that froze the hardiest megafauna animals animals on earth instantly now remember what I said
The 25 foot alder tree with the green leaves. Mm-hmm
Not only did that tree grow where it's not supposed to be and I'll tell you why in a second
But it froze instantly as well. Hmm
The reason I say that is that ice cores from Greenland show that before this flash freeze of the Younger Dryas, there's a time period called the Older Dryas at 14,500
years ago that had a spike in temperatures on the earth where it was
like warmer than it is now, okay? That seems to be the event that caused a
massive melting of the last ice age. So you have these tree growing where it's not supposed to
be because the earth rapidly got very very very warm. Okay? So mammoths are
living up there, there's things growing and then instantly plummets. Instantly
plummets at 12,800 years ago. The temperatures plummet colder than even
the last ice age, which aligns with exactly what I was saying about them
finding that
the temperatures looked like they all of a sudden plummeted to negative 150 below zero.
That's so cool.
That's so cold.
Holy crap.
Just like instantly though, Sean.
So do you think that's why those guys went underground then?
That's the same time period that we're seeing geologic evidence that the lost civilizations
were dealing with the same thing. That they were going through those events and having to go underground
to survive these absolutely catastrophic end of the world events around the world.
But it went on for so long, again, 1,500 years off and on.
Dang!
It was that cold for 1,500 years?
Well, no. It was like a seesaw.
Oh, okay.
So imagine these different periods where you have these very, very significant events at
different intervals, but between you still have a crazy, unbalanced climate.
But on either end of it, you have these devastating events.
So even if you survive like hundreds of years into it, then you try to go back out or something
and you just get wiped out again.
That's why I think humanity went through a complete reset
of its civilization because those ancient civilizations,
some of the rebuilders we'll call them,
tried to restart humanity, but they didn't make it.
We forgot everything, We start over again. And the knowledge
that's left is in these small ancient temples and areas that survived that were buried and
protected. There's evidence that Gobekli Tepe was buried and concealed as well. They knew that it
had to survive to another time or humanity wouldn't remember anything about who they are.
And here we are now, finally at this time period where all these esoteric and ancient mysteries are coming back to life.
And we're all of a sudden remembering who we once were and all that we knew.
And we're rebuilding the pieces of what they call the new Atlantis, the new golden age.
Yeah, it feels like we're putting the pieces back together
this time around, right?
Exactly.
Hopefully there's not another reset anytime soon.
I think humanity may have something
that they didn't have though,
is that as smart as they were
and as deeply connected as they were,
building these incredible structures
that may have been helping to try to balance the earth, the magnetosphere of the earth.
We may have certain technologies that they didn't have.
Like AI?
No, like different weather modification and different things like Nikola Tesla type of
magnetic technology using free energy that may be, I believe may be secretly being used
to help prevent this next cycle that
we're in right now.
Remember I said the great year.
So the great year is 25,800 years.
It's the cycle of the entire pivot of the earth through different constellations.
Half of the great year is about 12,000 years.
12,000 would change.
We're in that exact cycle right now.
Those disasters I just mentioned about them having to go
underground and the megafauna being destroyed
during the Younger Dryas,
that's just a little over 12,000 years ago.
So we're in that cycle again right now.
That's why you're probably seeing
a lot of solar flares, right?
That's exactly why we're seeing this activity again.
We're having another repeat of the same types of events.
However, I think that we may have things that we can do
that they didn't have.
A lot of people are gonna come on and talk about this.
They're gonna be doom and gloom saying like,
oh, we're gonna be wiped out.
I believe that we have the mechanisms and the means
to prevent our own destruction potentially
for the first time ever in our history.
That's exciting. Yeah, because there wasn't any evidence that we could travel into space before, right?
Well, not even leaving the planet, being able to somehow balance things like magnetic incursions of our planet,
which are happening right now. There's been a magnetic incursion happening at the magnetic North Pole for the last 20 plus years. That's
why they've had to go back and fly up to get new readings because it has to do with all
of our instruments that we use for navigation. Like I'll give you an example. The ancient
Inuit culture of Northern Canada has used the stars for hunting for thousands of years
and elders had come forth throughout the 90s
and told people that they can no longer follow the stars
to navigate because the North Star is no longer,
things are no longer in the same place any longer.
Because our magnetic North Pole is changing,
it no longer allows the same navigation.
It's that magnetic incursion is already occurring.
Wow, it's that like noticeable,
like you can't even hunt now or?
Yeah, because the same, the stars have shifted in the sky
because our earth has shifted.
Wow.
And so that's just an indication
that we're going through one of these cycles.
But at the same time, it's like the earth gets blasted
with this increased energy of the sun
and helps lead to
Conscious shifts and these huge leaps in humanity. It's all part of the cycle Sean
It's crazy to zoom out and look at life that way, you know
Well, that's we're just playing roles within something greater. Yeah, so this is like that's why I say
This is one of the greatest times you can ever live in humanity
That's why I say this is one of the greatest times you can ever live in humanity.
All the mysteries and all the secrets are all coming to light. We have an interconnected world. Like right now, we're talking through this digital means
that is going to reach potentially millions around the world. We didn't have that ability before.
That's true.
Now we have the ability to spread knowledge and to connect people in a way we never had.
Because we're just like a global collective.
Yeah, and you get to meet with the brightest minds and collab with them.
I know you work with Billy Carson, Robert Edward Grant, and a lot of top people in the world.
Yeah, we get to do something that has potentially not happened before.
I mean, right now I am working to lead a documentary with, again, top experts around the world.
Robert Shock, Robert Edward Grant, Hans Orheim, the archaeologist, Paul Wallace, Lydia de Leon, Arturo Ponce de Leon.
These are all geobiologists, geologists, archaeologists, polymaths, sacred geometry experts, we're bringing the top
experts in the world to look at all of these sites. Again, like I mentioned, all around Lake Vaughan,
the underwater ruins, these giant incredible megaliths and artifacts and going and connecting
to things like Peru and Bolivia with the same artifacts, types of designs,
the same motifs and symbols, places like Egypt, places like Menorca, Spain, that all have
the same T pillars, the same type of triptych doorway, the same type of crosses. It's like
this, it's not like a primitive type of knowledge. It's like an interconnected ancient knowledge,
like almost Atlantean knowledge that was passed around the world that's waiting for this time when humanity can realize that
the language that the ancients spoke wasn't written down, it was through symbols.
Yeah.
And these symbols were everywhere.
So they were definitely communicating back then somewhere.
That was how they were preserving to leave behind their messages because symbols are
difficult to interpret and understand unless you have a certain mindset and
The reason they would do that is that I'll give you an example
The reason why Socrates didn't want to write anything down. It was that he believed that it could be misinterpreted Mmm, and so that is why he didn't Plato learn everything everything he knew from Socrates. And then he wrote it down.
But the idea with the ancient mystery schools, they call them, was that certain knowledge was
too powerful for the average person to have. And so what they did is they hid it within
symbols and motifs so that only the initiates and those who were studied could understand
what they meant. Because to regular
people, it wouldn't make any sense to them. So it was a way of protecting these messages for
groups and civilizations that had reached a certain consciousness, where all of a sudden
the veil could be lifted and they could understand the ancient knowledge that connected everything.
That's fascinating. They say that about numerology too, how all the numbers are just in plain sight, but you got to interpret them.
Well, that's the way because our universe is built on geometry and mathematics,
that there's a design woven into all of it. That once we can discover that, we can be like gods,
because we can realize the connection and the pattern that exists in all things, right?
With the flower of life. The flower of life symbol is a mathematical geometric shape that
connects literally everything in the universe. And right now, the underwater ruins that we're
exploring that have all these connections, that flower of life symbol is on those stones.
Wow. Encompassed on those stones to survive the test of time.
And I'm happy to show you a picture
to put up of this to show that.
Yeah, we'll throw it up.
That day, I mean, think about it.
If you have underwater ruins that are 75 feet underwater,
that would have meant that the levels of that lake
would have had to have been over 80 feet lower
to be able to create those structures in the first place.
And so we're exploring into the evidence to prove how old
some of these civilizations may be because of some of this
scientific evidence of when things like water levels raised
and how they raised.
So we're finally bringing evidence, Sean, because you can't date stone.
We're bringing evidence from things like vitrification evidence,
combining with climatic evidence and things like the underwater ruins and sediment cores
to be able to bring real science in to prove once and for all that we have an entire lost chapter
of our history that's been forgotten, to try to piece together again so that history books can
talk about this legacy of what we once were that's beautiful
You're gonna rewrite some books my man. I can't wait to see it and where can people watch your stuff?
Please check out my website the stage of time calm you can see all the information about the upcoming documentary
Where again we're gonna be filming or we've done numerous scouting trips and we're planning everything to be filming
this this coming year and into 2025 for basically these areas of Turkey, Menorca, Spain, Peru and Bolivia to
connect the lost narrative around the world to bring people on this ancient mystery to
explore all the evidence from this lost civilization or civilizations that other
so many other people like you talk up talk to are helping bring to light the evidence
to truly show us everything that we've forgotten and what we're missing.
Perfect. We'll link it below. Thanks so much, man. We'll talk after your trip.
Thanks, Sean. It's good talking to you, my friend.
Awesome. Peace. See you guys.
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