Digital Social Hour - Are Expensive Waters Just a Scam? The Shocking Reality | Cormac Hayden DSH #867

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

Are expensive waters just a scam? 💧 Dive into the shocking reality on this episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! Join Sean and special guest Cormac from Oasis as they uncover the trut...h about bottled water companies using tap water and the hidden contaminants lurking within. From sparkling waters lined with microplastics to energy drinks, discover how these products may not be as pure as you think. 🤯 Cormac shares eye-opening insights into the water world, revealing how most bottled waters are not regulated like drinking water. Learn about the importance of filters, the danger of forever chemicals, and how top-quality waters are scored. This episode is packed with valuable insights on how water choices can impact your health and longevity. Tune in now and don’t miss out! 🎥 Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 Join the conversation and be part of this essential discussion today! #waterteststrips #homewaterquality #waterfilter #waterionizers #springwater CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 04:34 - Scoring Water Quality 07:01 - Tap Water Solutions 08:01 - Best and Worst Tap Water Cities 11:19 - Water Obsessions 13:23 - Ideal Drinking Water 15:43 - Benefits of Hydrogen Water 17:40 - Water Scoring Methodology 20:30 - Tate’s Future Plans 23:00 - Legal Challenges in Water 23:20 - Theats Study Overview 25:20 - Future Water Positives APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Spencer@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Cormac Hayden https://www.instagram.com/cormachayden_/ https://www.instagram.com/oasiswaterapp/ https://linktr.ee/liveoasis LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I was researching you apparently these bottled water companies are literally using tap water. Yeah most of them. And what's crazy is that you'll get a lot of bottled water that's like spring water and because people will think about like oh this or that we want it to be from the spring. But when you turn to sparkling water it's all tap water same with energy drinks. It's all tap water going through RO and they put it with cans that are actually lined with microplastics. All right guys, his first show. He's been making a scene all over social media.
Starting point is 00:00:31 I'm sure you've seen this guy, if you know anything about water. Cormac from Oasis, thanks for coming on man. Thanks for having me. You've changed the game for a lot of people's lives. Yeah, I guess so. It's, the water world is a crazy world and not a lot of people know about it.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Yeah, when did you become aware of what was going down in the water world is a crazy world and not a lot of people know about it. Yeah. When did you become aware of what was going down in the water world? Honestly, when I moved to LA about two and a half years ago, I came here, I came from the Midwest, drank tap water, drank from the hose all my life, came here and I got sick immediately. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I didn't have to go to the hospital or anything. It wasn't like anything crazy like that. But I started drinking from the tap water here, stomach aches. I couldn't sleep at night. And I looked it up and sure enough, it's poison. Wow. Yeah. And now they just announced they're going to recycle wastewater into the tap water in LA, right? Yeah. Toilet to tap. And it's already bad enough. I mean, yeah. I mean, most people drink, put in their food every day. They drink it for hydration. They give it to their pets, but it's literally just toilet water.
Starting point is 00:01:27 And if you look into it, it's 300 times the health guidelines of so many different contaminants that if you saw what was inside of it, no one would be drinking it. That's insane. And people also shower in it and then the steam, right? Yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:01:40 It's like a gas chamber, literally, because you have the steam and it's just, you're breathing it in all day. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So you think a filter would help with that or? Yeah, for sure. Definitely a shower filter.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah, the best filters to get are like a home filter. You wanna get reverse osmosis, most people know that, but you also need a carbon filter on top of it because reverse osmosis won't filter on all VOCs or chloramine or chlorine. So you want carbon filter, you want a reverse osmosis filter and probably a VOC filter. Geez. Um, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Do you use a filter like a Brita or anything like that? I use, um, a shower filter and then Brita's I don't trust cause they're literally being sued right now. Like apparently they don't cover what they filter. Nine contaminants. Yeah. And there's like 500. I used to use one in college and I thought it did stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Yeah, same. So I fill up the pitcher and with the filter. I'm the healthiest guy on campus right now. Turns out it's just awful, man. All marketing, right? It's all marketing. That's everything. Same with bottled water.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Yeah. So yeah, when I was researching you, apparently these bottled water companies are literally using tap water. Yeah, most of them. And what's crazy is that you'll get a lot of bottled water that's like spring water. And because people will think about like, oh, this or that,
Starting point is 00:02:51 we want it to be from the spring. But when you turn to sparkling water, like La Croix, Bubbly, it's all tap water. Same with energy drinks. It's all tap water going through RO. And then they put it with cans that are actually lined with microplastics or plastic on the inside. Are you serious? So there's just so water going through RO. Holy crap. And then they put it with cans that are all actually lined with microplastics. Oh my gosh. Or plastic on the inside.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Are you serious? So there's just like so many layers to it. And then for the cans, the sparkling waters, the FDA doesn't consider them drinking water. So they're not required to share their water reports with any consumer. Wow. So if you try to call them, email them, DM them on social media,
Starting point is 00:03:21 they'll deny you every time. They won't let you know it's in their water because they're not drinking water, I guess. you every time. They won't let you know it's in their water because they're not drinking water, I guess. That's crazy. So Red Bull's monsters, they're probably using toilet water. Yeah. Red Bull, I actually looked up recently, they're one of the few that uses
Starting point is 00:03:33 spring water, but most other brands. Yeah. You would think Red Bull, it's probably terrible, but you should switch to La Croix for the Red Bull. I used to drink La Croix thinking I was fancy. I know, dude. And they use fucking toilet water. Yeah, just take a cup and you're good.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And now even these glass water, some of them aren't good for you. Yeah, it's, it depends. I mean, it's, you really got to look at the source. Like you can put a fancy bottle on a shelf and say it's purely natural. But if you get it from, they can just get it from tap water and say it's completely fresh and it's good for you. That's insane. Same with Fiji.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I used to drink Fiji too. Yeah, their marketing is crazy. You go to any luxury gym, any podcast, big podcast, they have big Fiji bottles because it's a point of status. And it's just, it's some of the worst water. They have like a ton of arsenic in it. Their water sits in the plastic bottles as they ship it overseas. A lot of it is in the sunlight.
Starting point is 00:04:27 It's just. That's insane. Yeah. That's how you get more Michael Plastics from the sunlight, right? Melting the bottle. Yeah, the polymer. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Now, some people think your scoring is strict. What do you say to critics like that? I think we're in a new era of we've gone the past hundreds of years trying to survive and build this baseline of making sure everyone has enough food, has the right to medicine, has enough water. But we're in this new era of longevity of how we can make our lives better and live longer and just have better lives overall. And so that...
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Starting point is 00:06:07 You can go to the grocery store and buy anything you want but is that stuff actually good for you? Yeah, and so how I rate the waters based on ideal scores And if we're not living trying to lift up to our ideal life as a society, I don't know What's the point? You're like David Portnoy of the water world. Yeah, I guess so. I don't see you giving out many 80s, 90s, hundreds. No, no, because that would be lying to people. If they bought 100 water and it was actually only a 50, they could do better, what's the point? But if you set the bar high,
Starting point is 00:06:35 I think the goal is for all these brands to change and to provide better products for people. I like that. What's the highest score you've given? The highest score is like a 95 to Halstein. I haven Holstein or Holstein. I think it's Holstein. Yeah, it's actually I'm pretty impressed. They do the most some of the most research I've ever seen they get their water from the Austrian Alps Wow and They have they tap this like natural reservoir. It's completely natural very expensive. That's why I don't drink it This is like a next runner-up
Starting point is 00:07:03 very expensive, that's why I don't drink it. This is like an extra runner up. But they test for PFAS. Most brands don't test for PFAS. PFAS isn't even regulated, yet it's in most of our water. It's definitely in your top water. And they've known about it for over 50 to 60 years. So why do you think they are not regulating it then? The EPA just came out with like guidelines and recommendations and they're going to try to The EPA just came out with like guidelines and recommendations and they're gonna try to enforce them But it's the government like if no one is there to question them or these brands even they're gonna do the most minimal thing They can do so this kind of mission is to call them out because I think they could step up and do better, but Yeah, there's I get so many messages each day about How someone's dad used to work in the army.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And on their site, they found positive PFAS in their water. Oh my gosh. And they had died early from cancer. What? So it's this well-known thing that PFAS is super correlated to cancer. Holy crap. I didn't know you could die from that that quick.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah, I mean, it's forever chemicals. You can't digest them. It's the same side of you. Do you think tap water is fixable at this point, or do you think it's just too far gone? I think it's a luxury thing. I think we'll need technologies like a Fora or like companies like that or a ton of other systems like Aqua True is a good one, Sands is a good one that figure out how to use this water because there's so many people and we're going to need the water not just for drinking but for showering and like watering
Starting point is 00:08:23 but I think the wealthiest people in the world would choose not to drink tap water because once you strip it of, it goes through that process. It's just like eating a Twix bar or eating something that filled with a high fructose corn syrup. You're not going to want to eat it. Right. Who would have thought drinking water could fuck up your life? I know that water is water.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Right? Yeah. No, growing up as kids, we were taught to drink tap water was good for you. Really? Where I was from, yeah. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:49 In Minnesota, it was the same thing. It was like you compare city to city. And we thought we had the best water, because we're the land of 10,000 lakes. And I looked it up. It's like we rated a 10 out of 100, basically. Holy crap. What's the worst and best cities in America for tap water?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Honestly, don't know off the top of my head. LA is definitely one of the worst and best cities in America for tap water? Honestly, don't know off the top of my head. LA is definitely one of the worst major metropolitan areas or some of the worst for sure. Well, they used to say New York City was good, but I don't know if that's. It's not true. Yeah, probably not. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:15 The source is pretty good, but the pipes are so old that it becomes super contaminated. You'll find good ones in in remote areas of Colorado or Montana or even in Shasta County in California next to mountains and lakes because it'll just tap the natural sources. But if you're in a city like Miami, yeah, you're toast. So is this a US problem mainly or is this worldwide?
Starting point is 00:09:39 What kind of DMs are you getting from international people? I think it's a worldwide problem. The US has more guidelines in terms of people have to share this data. Europe is probably the best because they have the strictest health guidelines. But nowhere else, no one's questioning this. I get DMs from Dubai, all the waters and plastic water
Starting point is 00:09:58 bottles. It's so hot out there. They have to be drinking hundreds of thousands of microplastics each day. I mean, that's one of the goals, is to go test everywhere, because I think it's a worldwide problem. Yeah. How are you testing these waters?
Starting point is 00:10:14 We have a few lab partners. One is called Simple Lab. They're like my top score. They're one of the earliest people and most prominent players. We have a few other labs, but it's really expensive, honestly. Really? Yeah, to test like a single bottle for everything
Starting point is 00:10:28 from heavy metals to pesticides, to PFAS, to microplastics, probably cost me like 2000 to $5,000. Just for one bottle? One bottle. Bro, that's crazy. Cause each bottle is a new batch. So you gotta be testing them once a year probably, right? Yeah, at least.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And then many brands have like different types of water. So it could get expensive. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that makes sense why you charge for the site. I saw some people pissed about that, but if you're paying 2,000 a bottle, I mean, that's expensive. Yeah, that's kind of the goal.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I mean, to me it's crazy apart from the business side of if you're spending 10, $20, you're probably spending hundreds of dollars in water each month. Is it that crazy that you'd spend five, $10 to know if it's healthy or not? I feel like people, I've just grown up thinking that whatever they get from the grocery store is healthy.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And like they had never questioned it. And it starts with like questioning that and knowing. No, I see the value. It's definitely a psychological block because people are just like, it's water. You know what I mean? They're washed, I care. But I think people are developing some awareness. Yeah, it's water, you know what I mean? They wash their hair, but I think people are developing some awareness.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Yeah, it's funny. Like I'll meet people who go to the gym seven days a week, they eat only organic, they do cardio, they do the sauna, they do the cold plunges, then they drink from the top. It's like, bro, your body is 70 to 90% of water. Like that's the basis for your health. So they're literally offsetting all their gains from doing all that. Everything, man. This is from water. I don't the basis for your health. So they're literally offsetting all their gains from doing all that.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Everything, man. This is from water. I don't even go in pools anymore. Really? I can't. Why not? Dude, cause tap water, like I don't go in steam rooms if it's not like the highest quality gym.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, you're literally inhaling tap water. Yeah. And pools have chlorine and all this weird stuff. Yeah, it's not good. I've avoided them too. Just cause it just doesn't feel good. No it doesn't you feel like shit out there. Yeah for sure. Especially steam rooms dude I used to
Starting point is 00:12:09 love steam rooms. Yeah I feel like I suffocate in steam rooms. You definitely are. Yeah yeah. Saunas are good though. I love saunas. Yeah. Are you obsessed about anything else other than water? Obsessed about anything else other than water. Health wise. So that's about anything else that I thought. Health wise. I mean, for me, this extends far beyond water. Like this is everything that we eat and consume, right? Like AG1 is one of the top supplements. And I don't know if you knew they have a warning
Starting point is 00:12:37 at the back that says there's lead in this product. Holy crap. And they tested chocolates, dark chocolates, super healthy for you, right? Yeah. I think 23 out of 28 of them came back with positive lead in the dark chocolate. So my mission right now is to just break apart every all the products we consume and like figure out what's really going on here. That's a great mission. Yeah, it's been it's been something I'm interested in my whole life. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:04 going up against big food and big waters can be tough, but yeah. Yeah, it's been something I'm interested in my whole life. Yeah, going up against big food and big waters can be tough, but I think it's valuable. Yeah, for sure. I mean, they always teach you, you kind of gotta question everything these days. If they tell you it's healthy, you gotta ask why. Yeah, and most of the times they won't have an answer. Yeah, fast.
Starting point is 00:13:19 No one ever goes to you. New super food, right? Yeah. Acai, kale used to be a super food. Now it has heavy metals, they're finding out. Yeah, it's everything. Even like most of the sea salts in the world are like filled with lead too.
Starting point is 00:13:33 What? Or olive oil. Like you probably heard this, that they don't have enough olives in the world to produce all the olive oil. Like how do you think they're filling the bottles? Seed oils. Canola oil, seed oils.
Starting point is 00:13:44 That's disgusting. I actually just bought Brian Johnson's olive oil. Oh really? Last week. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't tried it yet, but I'm really excited. His food is honestly tastes so bad. Really?
Starting point is 00:13:54 But I'm such a fan. I haven't tried the food. It's so bland, that's how you know it's healthy. Yeah. That's the problem. It's like what line do you want to cross to get to this health point? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And I mean, I choose to optimize my health so I can have fun in other areas. Yeah. I'm not someone who doesn't go and have fun with friends on the weekend or have a cheat day for sure. But it's about optimizing 80% of your life so you can have fun, all of it. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And not get out of balance. Yeah, I like that. I like that for sure. Fluoride, that's in water too, right? Yeah, it's in most water. Is that in bottled or just tap? A lot of fluorides, like, because they pumped it into our water sources,
Starting point is 00:14:33 it got into lakes, streams, rivers. So it's in a lot of water. Holy crap. There are a lot of springs that don't have it. So you can usually find some pretty quickly. But a lot of people say like, it's good for you to drink fluoride. But if you if you ask your dentist, they tell you not to swallow your toothpaste. You look at the back of your toothpaste, they say not to swallow it to pay
Starting point is 00:14:56 the toothpaste. So that's to avoid it for sure. I remember getting teeth cleanings as a kid and they use fluoride all over my teeth. Oh, yeah, because it's good for your teeth. Yeah, but you just don't swallow it, you know? Disgusting, dude. So what's the ideal water when it comes to like bottle? Because you hear spring, you hear filter distilled, there's all these different kinds of water, right? Definitely. So from an ideal point of view is you want it to be spring.
Starting point is 00:15:22 You want the spring to probably be an aquifer. And it had to be natural. So the filter's gone basically down a mountain. It's filtered through granite and natural sediment. It's picked up minerals. It's filtered out a lot of the contaminants. And it's done that for decades. And then it naturally rises out of that spring.
Starting point is 00:15:40 So there's nothing being pumped into it. And then bottled in the darkness, and then kept cool. In the darkness? Yeah, because the sun can activate bacteria, and bacteria can grow in the water. Wow. But no company's going to admit if they bottle during the day, right?
Starting point is 00:15:54 Probably not. Damn. Yeah, I didn't even think about that. But yeah, the microplastics too, with the sunlight. There's a company called Alive Water that markets just that, is they bottle at the source, and they do it in the darkness And they pump it right into glass. Mm-hmm. So they're one of the key ones interesting. I never drink out of plastic
Starting point is 00:16:12 I carry this thing around me wherever I go Yeah, if I go to a friend's house and they only have plastic I don't drink it. I only look for glass What about when you fly? You just don't drink the whole flight. I usually don't drink water They at LAX they just got Evian and glass. That's the only one I'll do. But as soon as you get outside of LA, it's not great. Oh, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Vegas has nothing. Yeah. I had to choose between smart water and fricking Aquafina to that in Vegas. Oof, you might as well die up there. Yeah, right? Those are probably both zeros on your score. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:43 What about this hydrogen water? I'm seeing that on social media. This is crazy. So there's a ton of health effects benefits when it comes to hydrogen water. It's definitely on the fringe, so it can't be guaranteed yet. But I've heard stories that people will bathe in it and their injuries will heal like 10 times faster. Damn. Like they'll break their ankle and they'll bathe in it pretty significantly throughout the day. And within days, they can walk on it.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Holy crap. Right. It's kind of expensive, but it has a lot of anti-inflammatory properties. So it's pretty promising. The other one is deuterium depleted water. This is, have you heard of this? No.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I haven't either until recently. It's pretty wild stuff. Deuterium is a form of hydrogen, but it's a stronger isotope. We need it's like harder to break it apart. And most of the water on the planet has around 150 ppm of this deuterium in it. And the higher it has, the less able your body is able to like use it and break it down. Interesting. But there's been studies of societies that have only drank deuterium depleted water.
Starting point is 00:17:48 They live longer. They're having babies into their sixties. They're like just living healthier lives. That's insane. Yeah. Having a kid at 60, where do you buy that? You can get online. It's like really expensive.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Like if you only drank that, it would be $5,000. Holy shit. Yeah. Do you drink a gallon a day? be $5,000. Holy shit. Yeah. Do you drink a gallon a day? I wish. I can't. You can't? I can't.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Yeah, that shit's probably $10 a bottle, right? Yeah, yeah. Shout out to the companies, though. Yeah, but apparently if you drink quality water, you don't need to drink a gallon a day. Of water? Yeah. Oh, I thought you meant a deuterium depleted water.
Starting point is 00:18:20 No, no, in general. Yeah, I probably drank like four of these today. So you are drinking a gallon a day? Yeah, definitely. OK. Yeah, that's important. Yeah, I probably drank like four of these today. So you are drinking a gallon a day? Yeah, definitely. Okay. Yeah, that's important. Yeah, I mean, who knows, dude. There's so much advice.
Starting point is 00:18:30 You never know what to listen to. But that's why I like your scoring system because it's straight objective. Your opinion isn't a factor. If it has this, that's the score it gets. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's the point. And I'll have CEOs, these water brands, like call me up
Starting point is 00:18:43 and like, they'll like be like, I love what you're doing, but you should change this about this score. And I'm have CEOs, these water brands, like call me up and like, they're like, I love what you're doing, but you should change this about your score. And I'm like, hey, thanks. CEO's that would be called to you? Yeah, all the time. That's crazy. And they'll see when their score changes cause they'll get a new report
Starting point is 00:18:54 and I'll get a text from them the day of. That's hilarious. I mean, you have a lot of eyeballs on you right now. Yeah, the goals have more for sure. You've crushed it. What was that first bottle video that took this off? Probably Mountain Valley. Everyone drinks that one.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah, they're great too because if you're into health, Mountain Valley. They actually got a new report that was pretty good, but the point of the video was their old report. They had like 10 contaminants in it. And if you buy a Mountain Valley, you probably think it's super clean. But the point was just to call it like, hey, if you're ordering this stuff,
Starting point is 00:19:31 there's disinfectant byproducts in here. There's, I think there was radium in here. So it's radioactive. Like, do you know this? And people were just like, what? Like, I thought this was the best thing ever. That was the first glass water I switched to. And I saw that video.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I think you gave it like a 58 or something. Yeah. I almost canceled. I have the five gallon subscription. Yeah. Almost canceled it. Dude, that's crazy. Yeah. I pay for four or five gallon things a month and I give it to my dogs because people give their dogs tap water.
Starting point is 00:19:56 They're probably taking years off their dog's life without knowing. Dogs and pets can tell. Is I'll give my, I have two cats and I'll give them tap water and they won't drink it. Wow. They'll only drink it if I give them this tap water and they won't drink it. Wow. They'll only drink it if I give them this. That's crazy. Yeah, it's wild.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I mean, people just, they don't even know they're harming their pets, you know what I mean? They don't even think about it. Another thing is Mountain Valley is like one of the only companies that offer the five gallon glass jugs. So one of the biggest problems in this space is if you found a good water source,
Starting point is 00:20:25 of which I found a couple, and I'll talk to these companies, they don't know how to ship it across the US in these glass jugs. So there's almost an infrastructure problem of how do you get this clean water to millions of people across the world? That's what I've noticed. Recycle it in an economical way. Yeah, because when I was looking at five gallons, it was really only one option. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Mountain Valley and the rest were like sketchy tap water ones. So yeah, the rest is sparklets, call again. They call them plastic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely get the glass. That is crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Do you even drink sparkling water? No, I can't. It's tap water. So even the glass one, what's the fancy glass one everyone gets? It's like green. I forget the name. Oh, Pellegrino. Yeah,ellegrino. All right. Yeah, that one's comes from a natural spring too, but has a ton of contaminants Oh
Starting point is 00:21:12 Damn it. Hey stop telling people to drink tap water. I know Literally that in peri. It's just like period is in plastic side Yeah, I can't drink that but they say it's good for digestion. But if it's tap water is probably worse Yeah, it's probably better than tap water, but cheese it's still like man. So you're gonna start doing like packaged goods, too TBD I want to be as unbiased as possible, but I Really want to solve the problem of giving people clean Water to drink and clean food and might – that might require building factories and shipping and logistics across.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Wow! You got big plans then. I guess. And you're young. Yeah. It feels old though. Yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Yeah. I have – ever since I was in school, I like – I've been obsessed with building companies. And it's interesting is before this I had an AI company we were funded but then I ran into this problem and I started sharing with people and I was like man the smartest people in the world can go and invent AGI but nobody's focused on this thing that's killing us every single day so I kind of just felt called to do this and ever since then it's kind of just clicked. Holy crap but there's a ton of money and opportunity for this.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I guess, but there's like, once you do what's actually you're meant to do, I feel like there's more opportunity. You probably feel way better too. Definitely, making a better impact. Yeah, no, I relate, because I used to chase money. Now with this pod, it's different. Yeah, I feel like you're bringing ideas to people and having meaningful conversations.
Starting point is 00:22:42 And that's important, because people don't talk about this. 100%. Like you're just growing up and you're just drinking plastic water thinking it's healthy. 100%. You're also doing it differently. Like you're pumping out so many podcasts each day. Yeah, we got eight today.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Wow, that's wild. You're really grinding. But you're pumping content too daily. Yeah, you got to. I look forward to your reviews, man. Appreciate that. I was a little mad when you stopped showing the score, but I get it now that I know you're paying 2000 per bottle
Starting point is 00:23:05 to get it tested, so. Yeah, I'm experimenting for sure. The scores are back now. Oh, they're back. Yeah, they're back. You got a lot of heat. Too many haycobs. Do you ever get worried that the water bottle company
Starting point is 00:23:15 will try to legally come after you? Yeah, I'm sure they will. But what's good is that in this space, the divisiveness can always be like used in our favor. Like as soon as they do, we'll just post a video about it. Really? Yeah, and then like, cause when we posted how Waterloo refuses to share what's in their water.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah. Millions of views on TikTok, millions of views on Instagram, hundreds of thousands of people saying they'll never buy Waterloo anymore. Like these companies should be incentivized to actually do better instead of suing us. Cause they're just going to have consumers switch on them. Wow, so you really gave them a low score. Yeah, not on purpose right? Yeah, it's objective. I almost want brands to come and like
Starting point is 00:23:52 challenge us because that'll only help us. Yeah, that's great though if they're improving their product I mean that's what you wanted. That's the goal. Yeah. Most want that. Damn. Well shit, what's next man for you? What's next? I mean, there's still a lot of work to do, right? Like millions of Americans still drink the top water, literally just toilet water. People outside the US have no idea what's in their water either. Just bringing this product to everyone in the world basically. And then you saw the plastics and testicles. Yeah, so all that.
Starting point is 00:24:29 So the idea is like, you think water's bad, talk about every other food. Or do you hear about the phthalates study, too? No, I didn't see that one. So do you know what phthalates are? No. Phthalates are plasticizers that are used to make plastic more flexible and durable.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And they're used in everything. So they'll come off from factory runoffs, but they're also used to wrap all of our food, all of our toiletries and our cosmetics. They did a test, I think, in January. They tested Chipotle burritos, Annie's mac and cheese, Fair Life chocolate milk, and the recommended amount of daylight
Starting point is 00:25:00 to consume is zero. This stuff had tens of thousands. So when you're a Chipotle chicken burrito wrapped in aluminum, aluminum, it was like 20,000. Oh my gosh, I used to eat that daily. I know Chipotle is smack, but skip the aluminum foil. No, I stopped eating it when I found out about Cedar Wells, but that's even worse with the aluminum foil.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Yeah. And I used to cook in aluminum foil. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Everyone does. That's true. You gotta wrap it up after.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Oh yeah, and even put on the grill. Parchment paper, right? Parch is nothing. Yeah, true. You gotta wrap it up after. Yeah. Oh yeah, and even put on the grill. Parchment paper, right? Parch is nothing. Yeah, literally. God damn. There's so many things that we just thought were normal growing up. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:25:34 My friend was also telling me a study, kind of gross, but there's a trail in Seattle, and they hike this trail, and people will hike it so long, they have to go to the bathroom on the side of the trail. And now that they're finding trail and people will hike it so long they have to go to the bathroom on the side of the trail and now that they're finding that when people go poop the poop won't decompose because it's so full of microplastics. What? Yeah. So it's just like we're at a point now where it's like
Starting point is 00:25:57 that's wild and our body can't like get rid of it fast enough and now it's at a point too where men's semen count is like 50% less than it was 40 years ago. Largely due to all these microplastics. It's in your clothing too. In your clothing. I just found out if you go in the sauna with underwear, you're basically putting microplastics in your chest. You're just coking yourself in it.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Yeah. Yeah. And people wear shorts and jerseys all the time, cotton shirts. For sure, yeah. Man, scary world. Yeah, but it's also bright. Like, at the same time, there's so many brands that are launching products that are microplastic free.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Right? So it could be a really good world. And once we get over this hump, we're going to be getting sick so much less. We're going to be feeling better later, having babies into our 60s, 70s. Like, it's going to be a fun time. That'd be awesome.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Cause right now they're caught at like 35, 40. Exactly. So 60s great and there'll be way less pressure on women. Cause I know a lot of women my age right now, rushing having kids because they only got like three to five year window. Yeah, you get to 30 and you gotta lock it down. Yeah, you start freaking out.
Starting point is 00:26:59 For sure. Another 10, 20 years for them would be massive. 100%. It's been fun, man. Anything else you wanna close off with our promo? Um, no, nothing to promote other than check your water on Oasis. Cool, we'll link it below. Thanks for coming on, man.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Thanks for watching, guys. See you tomorrow.

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