Digital Social Hour - Avoid These Self-Defense Myths: Expert Exposes All I Tim Larkin DSH #467

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Starting point is 00:00:34 it's really discouraged. But back then, it was kind of a rite of passage. So for me, fighting was normal. Not in a brutal way, but just in a, okay, you know, this is what I have to do to let everybody know that you can't pick on me obviously i've interviewed a ton of people from prison gangs nothing is extreme is what they live every day wherever you guys are watching this show i would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe it helps a lot with the algorithm it helps us get bigger and better guests and it helps us grow the team truly means a lot thank you guys for supporting and here's the episode all right guys self-defense expert tim larkin in the building your hands are registered weapons right oh yes yeah that's uh that's what the wizard of oz told me and from there i was like yeah he's coming on the podcast

Starting point is 00:01:19 but the worst is when you're in this business and people try to describe you they always will say something like oh he can kill you with his pinky you can do you know which immediately sets people off yeah you know and then they don't want to listen to you what got you on this journey of self-defense was it a moment in your life where you were like wow i need to be able to defend myself you know i think it was uh i was a navy brat my dad was a naval officer and we moved from uh city to city originally born in boston my grandfather was a huge influence he's a huge he was from originally south boston his grandfather uh ran if you watched anything like um boardwalk empire he ran liquor with the kennedys oh yeah my great great grandfather so

Starting point is 00:01:57 my grandfather's there they own pool halls and then my grandfather kind of went legit and he did real estate and uh insurance but he still had the those roots and so he thought it was really important that boys knew how to fight taught me at a very young age how to box but he said a really interesting thing to me um so i remember i'm probably six years old i'm down in his basement that's where my cousins and i would always go and fight yeah and i don't think our moms knew what the hell was going on down there yeah basically it's a little fight club um but my grandfather say stopped us at one point and he loved boxing and he'd always say boys such a great role and this is you know here are the rules and this is what you do but then he'd stop and he looked at us and he points to the window and so

Starting point is 00:02:38 we're in a basement so he pointed up to the window and he goes but out there he said if anybody tries to hurt you he started showing us different things it had nothing to do with boxing it had to do with truly hurting people you know injuring them um specific areas of the human body because he said out there you there are no rules and you have it and as young kids we didn't really know kind of what he's talking about but that was his experience his experience was he dealt with criminals and he dealt with people that truly just wanted to you know hurt you uh beyond beyond repair and so that was his approach right so that as a young kid that got me thinking about that i've always found the extreme end of self-protection the most interesting part i mean the the situation

Starting point is 00:03:22 where your life is on the line. Combat sports is fantastic, and I love combat sports. I'm a huge fan. I have a lot of friends that are in the UFC. The trainings are fantastic. But for me, the interest was always the criminal aspect of things. And, you know, what do you do when somebody truly just wants to kill you? Right. And, you know, so that was a journey that, you know,

Starting point is 00:03:44 as I went from city to city as a young kid um back then basically you fought everywhere you went when new school you know came up now it's a it's a really discouraged but back then it was kind of a rite of passage wow so for me fighting was normal coming up not in a brutal way but just in a okay you know this is what i have to do to let everybody know that you can't pick on me. It's like jail almost. It was a version of it. And it's so funny because since then, obviously, I've interviewed a ton of people from prison gangs.

Starting point is 00:04:12 Yeah. And it's interesting kind of similarities of what I've brought up. Nothing is extreme is what they live every day. But, yeah, pretty much. My relationship to violence was very different. But it was never from a process of thinking violence was good or bad. It was just, it was the subjective tool that you can use. And I noticed the people that knew how to use it and were not criminals lived a much more peaceful life and they were not harassed that my my mentors the people that i always admired were these guys who always could take care of themselves but

Starting point is 00:04:52 there's just something about them that most of the time another predator would just leave them alone wow and i always wanted to be that guy and uh so that kind of got me as a young man on my journey. And then the last place that my father was stationed was San Diego, California. And we had Navy housing in Coronado, California. And my backyard literally backed up. I had a chain link fence. There was a little highway called the Silver Strand Highway on the other end was basic underwater demolition school, the SEAL teams. And so at 12 years old, I didn't know these guys existed you know now everybody knows about the teams but back then nobody knew about them and i couldn't believe there's this job that you got

Starting point is 00:05:34 paid to jump out of airplanes blow things up and so as soon as i found that out that was what i wanted to do in life and my parents were not happy you know they wanted me to be a traditional you know naval officer um and back then it wasn't very it was discouraged to go into the SEAL teams back then because there really wasn't a career path for it um but I was fascinated by the job and I just decided that's what I wanted to do and so uh I got a scholarship I went to college and uh went into naval special warfare and did very well in my training. I was two weeks away from graduating and I had an accident underwater where I blew my ears really badly to the point to where I couldn't pressurize dive.

Starting point is 00:06:14 Today they could heal me, but back then they didn't have the technology. That's my seminal point. For me, it was twofold. One, it ended the career that I thought I was going to have and switched me into another career, still in special warfare, but I was an intelligence officer. And I worked with everybody after that. And I was a very junior guy in a very senior command.

Starting point is 00:06:38 And I got to work at levels that nobody in my rank ever should have done. Like you were the youngest by far? Yeah, by far. And we had modified grooming standards sometimes, so meaning I could look like a civilian. And we traveled places, and yeah. I was probably, my position that I had, because we had just created, in the military,

Starting point is 00:06:59 we had just created the Naval Special Warfare Command, part of US SOCOM. It didn't exist before, but in 87 it existed. We had trailers while they were building everything, and we were undermanned. And so they pulled me in and gave me this position I had no business having because they didn't want to take a guy who was fully functional and could dive.

Starting point is 00:07:20 We were so shorthanded. So it was a huge opportunity. And as I said, I thought i thought oh my life's over you know i don't everything i want to do i can't do all my friends are going on and doing these amazing careers well that command changed everything number one i want to tell everybody is when i blew my ears underwater i had been leading everything in the class i was going to be the anchor man my team won hell week we did all the things that are physically challenging what was amazing was this was the first time in my life i had been hurt i had been you know been cut before and everything but this was the first time that i couldn't just will my way through

Starting point is 00:08:00 something this was a true injury to the human body where i lost control of my body i went into vertigo underneath there meaning where you lose all your sense of balance wow i was very lucky that i didn't you know drown and that i was able to get up um they said when i when i hit surface i pulled myself up by the anchor line my head was slapping against the water bleeding and when they pulled me i had no you know understanding of where i was wow um so that was true injury to the human body and what's interesting is that turn in my life is really what i teach people i teach people how to exploit injury to the human body to save their own lives and you find out really quickly there are areas of the human body that if you put enough trauma into them and you put enough uh force into them the response of the human body is to protect itself and it bypasses the brain and so that's where it all started right and um

Starting point is 00:08:58 the nice thing about injuries of those type and you've experienced if you put your hand on a stove your hand automatically comes off you don't burn yourself say oh i better move it it happens the effort and effort nervous system of your body has you pull it away and then you realize oh i burnt my finger and that's to protect your limbs but in that time where you burn yourself and pull back your brain is not involved in that process it's it's you responding to the injury uh if you step on a sharp object your foot automatically comes up those are autonomic reflexes that come up and that's what we noticed back then was if we taught a system that exploited these protective measures of the human body um you had a really good chance of bypassing bigger faster and stronger and because everybody

Starting point is 00:09:46 responds to trauma that way um but it's not we don't teach things like when you teach for your own self-protection you're not teaching to compete with somebody you know you're teaching to you want to put an injury on them as quickly as possible so you don't get to find out how good they are at whatever they do right and so that's kind of how I got to where I was. And we did this originally in, I was at Special Warfare Command with the teams, and they were looking at redoing hand-to-hand combat. And that's how I originally got into it.

Starting point is 00:10:15 Was it outdated at the time? Yeah, very much. We hadn't looked at it. You've got to remember, back then, when I was at this command, the Berlin wall came down and so up until then we were we were working the soviet problem and so at that the mentality of it was if you're looking at hand-to-hand combat you've screwed up you know we're talking about you know the russian wave coming and all this other stuff and we really hadn't looked at it since vietnam and so what

Starting point is 00:10:43 happened was the wall comes down soviets we realized were going to go away as they are russia will still be around but the soviet union itself is not there and we're going to go back these guys these legends of the seal teams that i was assigned with um and i had no business being there um they immediately recognized what was going on most of them were vietnam vets, high combat guys. The admiral, I will say at the time, grabbed his best people. And they realized, hey, we've got to re-look at hand-to-hand combat. We're going to start putting hands on people again.

Starting point is 00:11:14 They predicted all of the warfare that we now see, like in Afghanistan and everything. First, we all knew the Balkans were going to go off, and that's where Bosnia-Herzegovina went off. And they knew that we had to change our tactics. And one of the things they wanted to look at was hand-to-hand combat. I just happened to be in it. They liked me.

Starting point is 00:11:32 I had a martial arts background growing up. Obviously, I told you my fighting background. I had no experience as far as warfare or anything, but they liked me. And so they included me in this pilot program where they were looking for something. And we came across a guy who was from the Vietnam era. He was an Army guy, which is really funny that the SEALs looked at an Army guy.

Starting point is 00:11:56 And he did the tunnels. He was a tunnel rat. And so he understood intimately hand-to-hand combat. And they met. We did a pilot program and that ended up being the uh beginning of what now what i teach which is target focus training nice and speaking of target focus so let's talk about some parts of the body so like i play a lot of basketball right right sometimes things get heated one time this kid squared up with me and i had to make a decision

Starting point is 00:12:23 whether to fight him or not you You know what I mean? Right. So in that situation, what parts of the body should I have targeted? That's a different way of looking at it because it's going to be whatever is available to you. To answer your question right away, the best target is one that you can get to. So there are a variety. There's about 120 areas on the human body that get a response like we're talking about. Meaning if you put trauma into that area and the trauma is high enough, you will get an autonomic response. Wow.

Starting point is 00:12:51 120. Yeah. Yeah. Approximately there. No, we're talking everything from a high of, you know, say taking somebody's eye and blinding them to hitting them in the solar plexus where they're going to recover from that. Or, you know, nerve strikes that you're going to recover from that or um you know nerve strikes that you're going to do that you know will deaden an area but all things being equal they'll come

Starting point is 00:13:10 back um so it's the the trauma will vary but the response will always be the same meaning it'll give you time right and that's really what we want out of an injury to somebody is i want time to be able to stack injuries on somebody until they're non-functional um but you know for basketball I've got a lot of great ones where when I say great great information I remember there's one where LeBron's going up and I forgot the other player but he came up and he threw his elbow up Draymond Green probably got him right in the throat and you know most of the time you think oh LeBron's faking it no he wasn't LeBron was not faking it this time he went down he saw the response was to the throat and he was very lucky that he was able to recover from that other time there's a New Zealand basketball player that was there and a guy went to grab the ball and

Starting point is 00:13:58 ended up taking his eye out damn on that yeah basketball has some really basketball provides a lot of uh information on uh broken joints as well guys going up to recover and they come down their ankle incorrectly so you see how the body responds to trauma you know there's there's two ways there's two forces that we're interested in for a human we're interesting in injuries when you look at injuries we look at sports injury and the reason we look at sports injury is because those are injuries that happened with humans colliding with humans or humans colliding with the ground and those are the forces that you and i can replicate and so sports injury data is like your your rosetta stone to the human body because the same areas of the human body keep showing up all the time and so that's what you focus on yeah

Starting point is 00:14:43 when it comes to fighting someone with a weapon is that something you teach or is it mainly just hand to hand yeah the assumption just the assumption with what we teach is your opponent you know you're going to be first facing multiple attackers we all assume it's going to be multiple attackers we assume they're going to be bigger faster and stronger and we assume they're going to be armed got it with someone because that's that's really your baseline for once we step outside here in a controlled environment like a competition all that's taken out you know taken out i have to be very careful when i talk about competition uh sports combat sports and violence it's it's a very different thing one is not better than the other in fact some of my best uh student clients over

Starting point is 00:15:25 the years have been guys from the mma world and they're great i couldn't do what they do especially you know i'm well past my competitive years right um but they come to me because they hey tim i'm not really sure when a knife comes on my brother was robbed the other day and i didn't have any good information to give him um and that's where i can help out with people but the main ideas is really it comes back to the same thing putting an injury on somebody and taking the brain out of the equation because the brain is what allows you to operate everything it operates your body weapons and it operates that tool right so if you can get somebody in a reactive state through an injury you really don't have to worry about what they have on them and

Starting point is 00:16:05 there's there's tons of video data on all that you know that you'll see where where all of a sudden a guy an armed guy gets uh injured and all of a sudden that tool that he has be it a firearm club or a knife is useless to him during that injury time right and people that really understand that the the alpha predators truly understand that. They're very good at that. That's why I spend a lot of time interviewing and then going to the federal prisons and talking to people that operate in that petri dish of asocial violence.

Starting point is 00:16:42 I don't glorify those people, but there's a lot of great information you can learn. And one of the great information is a lot of these prisoners have great situational awareness, which is something you teach. So what are some signs to look for if you feel like you might be potentially in danger? Well, you hit it with the situational awareness, but most people think it means an attitude or a look or or like uh you're trying to trying to look intimidating and that's that's not it at all it's really just a presence of knowing you know you know your surroundings you know what's going on right now like for me and we're in the studio right now if i'm curious about what's going on behind me all i got to do is look in the reflection

Starting point is 00:17:19 here but i don't have to disengage from you i can just know okay there's i can see what's going on there right it's just a basic understanding of surroundings you know where things are going on and just watching people are you interested in coming on the digital social hour podcast as a guest we'll click the application link below in the description of this video we are always looking for cool stories cool entrepreneurs to talk to you about business and life click the application link below and here's the episode guys um probably the best thing that everybody here can do i'm going to give give your folks some great information that all i have to do is read or listen and that would be the number one tool that i think everybody needs for real self-protection of yourself and your family is understanding human nature.

Starting point is 00:18:07 And studying books like Robert Greene's 48 Laws of Power or I think even better is his Laws of Human Nature. The reason those two things, and they're very easy to get, there's many other ones, but those are easily accessible and very well done. If you understand human nature and you understand how predators operate you can spot things well before it gets to the point to where there's violence my goal with any client is i will give them all the information about bigger faster stronger i

Starting point is 00:18:37 will show them how to injure the human body will do all that but that's only if everything else fails if you have to use the physical part of my information that means you've had a traumatic failure in your situational awareness and your understanding of human nature interesting yeah and so that's that's probably the greatest thing because the easiest thing for me to teach people is you know punch here kick here stomp here grapple here do that all those things are fun and they're interesting but really what gets people in trouble is not recognizing the danger prior usually when i talk to people that unfortunately have had to use the information that we've we've provided they will tell me i knew something was

Starting point is 00:19:14 wrong here but because i didn't want to feel uh i felt awkward saying something or i felt like i would be judging somebody i got to here and then it was too late. And so my goal with people is, listen, listen to your intuition, understand your situation. If you're getting those uncomfortable signals early on, you have to really learn to trust those. Yeah, trust your gut. Yeah. And I mean, people, they sound kind of like,

Starting point is 00:19:43 oh, yeah, everybody knows that. That's why I show the violence first. Because I show people that, I go, this is what it's going to take if you ignore all this. And there's many examples of people doing clearly avoidable situations that then get themselves in, and the only tool that works at that point is the tool of violence. And you have to understand how to use it. When it comes to de-escalation techniques, I know it's probably case by case,

Starting point is 00:20:07 but is there anything in general you use? Yeah. Most, like I said, the alpha predators that I know is, there's one guy I interviewed, Michael Thompson. He was one of the founding members of the Aryan Brotherhood. Wow. And Michael just recently got out. 23, he says he didn't do all of them,

Starting point is 00:20:30 but 23 murders in there. Just a formidable, even in his 70s, he's a formidable human being. Wealth of knowledge. And he always talks about the idea of, he said, we have a thing of uh warm smile cold heart and what he means is your outward appearance you don't want to let anybody feel like you are a threat in any way shape or form you don't feel like you're a pushover but to me with my presence you have to

Starting point is 00:20:58 say what is your body type you know what how do you present to the world well to me especially at this age i present as kind of an old meathead, a gym guy and stuff, just kind of nice. And people always say, oh, my God, you're so nice. You're this, you're that. That's exactly what I want people to think. I don't want them to feel threatened. I don't want them to feel like I'm aggressive in any way, shape, or form

Starting point is 00:21:18 because if I need my information, I want it to be a complete surprise in that situation. And you conduct yourselves that way. One of the early lessons I got in that was from a SEAL Team friend of mine. And he was on the unit that used to be called SEAL Team 6. And back then, everybody else in that unit would dress as like a biker. They all had long hair. They drove Harleys.

Starting point is 00:21:42 They did the whole thing. And they were. They were an intimidating bunch of guys. But you pretty much knew if you were in the Virginia Beach area, you pretty much could pick out who these guys were. This guy, he drove a Volvo. He had round glasses. He wore three-piece suits.

Starting point is 00:21:57 And he would carry a briefcase, but he would also carry a valise for, like, suits suits and in that was a sniper rifle wow and he was probably one of the best snipers at the time that the SEAL teams could produce but what was more valuable about this guy is he could blend in anywhere and you would never know and most of the people that i found that are truly dangerous and truly capable could come in here right now and you wouldn't you know visually you wouldn't be triggered by any of them you wouldn't be worried about oh is this guy that i mean i come in sometimes and just my physical presence even at my age right now um i still have a presence where

Starting point is 00:22:35 people oh god you look like a big guy and stuff and i laugh because um the people i know that are truly dangerous you will never know until it's too late. Yeah, because you see documentaries of those serial killers like Ted Bundy. They look like normal people. They're not in the fact. Yeah, you're not there. And they understand human nature also. They want you to feel very comfortable.

Starting point is 00:22:56 Most of the times, true predators are truly engaging. They will make you feel great because they'll get right in, but they have no problem jamming a knife into you. They look at it the same way you and I would look at going and ordering a drink at the bar. To them, it's just no problem. It's a means to an end, and they know how to deceive you to get that.

Starting point is 00:23:22 Exactly. And one of the guys you interviewed was Sammy the Bull, right? Oh, yeah. Sammy is great. Sammy was great in the fact that he truly understands human nature. And when they took over originally, he and John Gotti took over, Sammy was really the person that set everything up. Right.

Starting point is 00:23:41 And he talks about, yeah, out of of the gate we had to be incredibly violent as soon as they killed the boss you know they got paul costellano they killed a lot of people right they took over boom but sammy then understood he goes hey we cannot rule by violence only we have to understand we have to make sure that these guys make money so he went out of his way to build a network of guys that they were rewarded for making money they had very strict standards at that point and everything but it was a really an interesting use of violence and if you look at violence the use of violence in history the mongols did this everybody else after the violence is really where you have to have control and that's again understanding human nature is is

Starting point is 00:24:22 critical sammy really understands human nature now granted I'm not condoning anything that he did. But he truly understood how people operate. He talks about a situation where money was lost in an investment. And the other guy said to him, and it was a civilian that he was investing with, meaning not a guy that's in the mob. And the other guys when they found out that they lost money on that and that they actually owed this guy money um they go sam what do you do ah screw him he doesn't need any cash and sammy knew right away he goes nope

Starting point is 00:24:55 he goes i'm gonna pay him in full it wasn't his fault he goes i need to be able to do business with him forever and so again we we make these assumptions that predators are are knuckle draggers and they're stupid and what you find out is the people that are at the highest level of and they can use true violence are usually wildly intelligent and very judicious in how they use it yeah to be able to make it in that life because most of those mob guys end up dead or in prison for life and he was able to make it out yeah life because most of those mob guys end up dead or in prison for life, and he was able to make it out. Yeah, he was, and he went through, you know, he's mentally tough and stuff, and it sounds like I'm glorifying him. It's just what I try to do when I look at individuals like this, I say, where's the good information for us, for law-abiding, normal people?

Starting point is 00:25:40 These guys survive in this world, and we are not going to operate in a criminal environment. But what can we take from that environment where if you make a mistake there, you die, you know, or it's critically bad, you know, information. Those skill sets given to a normal person are wildly valuable when you need them. And, you know, I've been doing this almost 30 years now and i would say the biggest return i get from people is when they call me up and they say hey tim prior to taking your training reading your book whatever the old me would have done this in this situation but because i understood your information i did x and i didn't have to deal with it at all got myself out of there you know it's always great when i hear people like when i train my military guys and my law enforcement people um and they tell me about yeah we successfully used this in our mission and blah blah that's great feedback i expect them to do well they signed up for it you know it's when you can help somebody who never should have to

Starting point is 00:26:38 experience violence navigate those waters and successfully not have to use violence and still you know be intact and everything's great that to me is way more rewarding than uh hearing from you know one of my you know commando teams or yeah or one of my operators absolutely being able to help people like literally save their lives yes feel incredible honestly yeah and and that's the the young me when i got in i only wanted to treat all the train all the hardcores that's all i did all the hardcore units nato i did everybody all around the world and that was fun and it was great but it was the one that got me was i trained a doctor he was a brain surgeon believe it or not a true brain surgeon and i got a letter now this is back

Starting point is 00:27:24 until how old i am instead of been doing it for 30 years this is actually a handwritten letter wow that i received uh he had gone and he'd been called in late uh he was i think i believe it was cincinnati into uh a young eight-year-old kid had had i believe a tumor or some sort of a hematoma that had to be operated on immediately the kid's's going to die. Doctor driving in the middle of the night is probably, I think it was early morning hours that he came in. Parks in, it's an inner city Cincinnati hospital. Drives in, and as soon as he parks his car in the parking lot,

Starting point is 00:27:59 he gets attacked. Two guys come out of nowhere. The first guy had a knife and he comes up the doctor he saw right then he goes tim it was just like you said he goes i saw he saw the radial nerve you know in the guy's arm he struck it with his own the bone as hard as he could he kicked the other guy into the groin he dropped the guy that he knocked the knife out ran off the guy on the ground tried to do something else. He then kicked him, knocked him out.

Starting point is 00:28:27 Now, this is a man who is probably about 155 pounds, very, you know, not a built doctor, but he understood the situation. He goes and performs a surgery successfully, comes out, cleans up, and the first thing he did was he sat down and wrote that letter. Wow. He said, I just want you to know, he goes, you saved two lives. You saved mine, and you saved the kid that that i saved and that changed my whole perspective on everything and i said you know this guy never this guy here he is going into save a young kid's life

Starting point is 00:28:53 yeah and and he experiences violence and because he got some good training and he understood what was going on thankfully you know he was able to get himself out of it that's incredible man yeah eight-year-old kid. Yeah, and those are the kind of things. I mean, my customers, my clients from over the years, a lot of them share stories. There's horrific things of violence that happened to them. They come to me after the fact.

Starting point is 00:29:17 Now, I can't undo what's already been done. That's why I love doing podcasts like this and getting out to people. I'm hoping, normally, if you don't know my name, that's a good thing. Normally, 70% of my clients come to me after the fact something's already happened as far as my civilian clients come to me after the fact only 30 are proactive and get some information or training prior to an event happening in their life so by doing things like this i'm hoping i'm reaching a lot of the audience that hasn't had anything happen yeah it's better to be preventative yeah and especially you know we got a crazy year coming up now um election year yeah there's going to be yeah the the why we are so why we're in the state we're in right now you know we can all talk about

Starting point is 00:29:53 that but it's crazy and people are really triggered and overreacting and violence is a lot more common it seems like it yeah yeah it's like it's making a comeback so understanding it it's a really great time to understand it. And if you understand the tool, and again, I don't want everybody to just, like a lot of people what they'll do is they'll look at like a UFC event or they'll see on social media, they'll see all the combat sport athletes doing these amazing things and they're going, oh my God, I don't have the time nor do I have the skill set. So therefore, self-defense or self-protection is not an option to me.

Starting point is 00:30:22 And that's not it at all. When you see those competitors, they're amazing at what they do. But I try to compare it to CPR. A doctor is not going to look at somebody that takes CPR and laugh at CPR. It's for a very specific thing. Now, you're not going to be a doctor. Most people, if they put a little bit of time into good self-protection information, they can avoid 99% of the potentiality

Starting point is 00:30:54 for violence coming in their life. Now, they're not going to be a world-class competitor in combat sports. It's a completely different skill set. The way to look at that is, if I had a class of like 40 people right now and we brought in a beautiful big slab of Italian marble and I brought in the best sculpturing tools that there are for each person

Starting point is 00:31:12 and I said, listen, nobody leaves today until you recreate Michelangelo's David. Well, those folks could be there a thousand years and they'll probably never be able to do that. That is becoming a high level combat athlete but if that same crowd looked at that thing of marble and i brought in 40 sledgehammers and i said nobody gets to eat lunch today until this is a pile of rubble it would suck they wouldn't like it but they'd all grab a sledgehammer and they'd be able to reduce that into a pile uh a pile of rubble yep that's what learning the tool of violence is it's available to everybody if it

Starting point is 00:31:50 wasn't you wouldn't have a lot of these criminals who are so good at it because they don't do they're not good at it because they train you know religiously it's because they understand and they have no um compunction about you know grabbing a hammer and hitting somebody in the back of the head. And once you understand why that works, you would never use it for the criminal application of use of violence. You would sit there and understand it. But if you needed it to protect yourself, now you have really great information.

Starting point is 00:32:21 So the way I try to tell people is there is no such thing as self-defense self-defense is a term it's all violence how you use the tool determines whether or not it was judicious if it was judicious the courts will rule hey this is self-defense and you'll you'll be fine if you criminally use violence well then you're going to be in this system and you're gonna have to deal with that but it's all the same there's just violence you know um people get caught up i want to learn self-defense it's like no you don't want to learn self-defense you want to learn how to use the tool of violence you want to when it would ever be applicable you know that's that's that's the big challenge is what what is a threshold um to where this would ever be allowed and then what works in

Starting point is 00:33:02 that situation so you have to make sure that you have both of those covered when you're training you know good people i love it tim it's been so valuable man where can people find out more about you and your trainings um yeah you can get me i'm on all the social on the socials probably uh best place to start is by violence.com i give out free information out of that of course ig just Tim Larkin you'll find me on any of the platforms we'll link it below thanks for coming on man thanks for watching as always guys and I'll see you next time

Digital Social Hour - Avoid These Self-Defense Myths: Expert Exposes All I Tim Larkin DSH #467

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