Digital Social Hour - Avoid This $200K Mistake in Business Deals | Dr. T.K Huynh DSH #696

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

Avoid This $200K Mistake in Business Deals! 🚨 Dive into the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly and discover the shocking story of a former Walgreens pharmacy supervisor who ventured into entrepren...eurship, only to face a $200K fine from the DEA. 😱 Join the conversation with Dr. T.K Huynh as he shares his wild journey from corporate life to starting an independent pharmacy, overcoming adversity, and the surprising spiritual experiences that followed. ✨   Packed with valuable insights on navigating business risks and personal challenges, this episode is not to be missed! Tune in now for a rollercoaster of revelations. 🎢   Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 Don't miss out on this riveting tale of resilience and transformation. 💡 Join the conversation today!   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:35 - Walgreens Fired for Calling in Sick 02:55 - DEA Raid on Your Pharmacy 10:31 - Wife Paralyzed from Waist Down 15:28 - Development of the Cream 17:14 - Mechanism of How the Cream Works 22:00 - Experience with Bufo 23:57 - First Bufo Experience 26:35 - Aftermath of First Bufo Experience 29:29 - Chief of the Land Spirit Encounter 33:03 - Second Bufo Experience 34:43 - Spirit Refusal to Leave 37:58 - Encounter with Chinese Mystic 43:38 - Fox's Complaint 49:20 - Discovering Your Life Purpose 51:40 - Thanks for Watching 52:19 - Outro   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com   GUEST:  Dr. T.K Huynh https://www.instagram.com/thequantumpharmacist   SPONSORS: Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The day that I was supposed to leave on my vacation and then they disapproved my vacation and then I called in sick because I had my cousin's wedding to go to. And corporate was there on Monday to fire me. And you were there for like what, 20 years? 15. 15. So a large portion of your life you spent there and they just fired you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Yeah, because I called in sick. All right, guys. Dr. TK huynh here today crazy story i can't wait to dive into it thanks for coming on of course it's my pleasure yeah thank you for inviting me absolutely so you were a pharmacy supervisor for walgreens and yes i was a crazy event happened right yes talk to me about it. Yeah, yeah. I graduated from pharmacy school. I worked as an intern for Walgreens all the way up to pharmacists, managing the multiple pharmacy in our local area, and then worked my way up to a supervisor. 2008 hit, stock crashed, everything crashed. And they're like, okay, well, we need to start letting some of the people go.
Starting point is 00:01:08 And how do we do that? I was like, well, we got to start writing people up for their mistakes. So that way it's easier to fire them after three mistakes. And really made me think, I'm like, these are all the people that I grew up with. And these employees are real people just because we're putting them under a lot of pressure to of speeds versus accuracy we're trying to pump up as much prescription in volume as possible they're gonna make a mistake and because of our pressure they they make the mistake.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I write them up and then I have to fire them. So I thought about it. I said, this is not my job. So I stepped down. And ultimately, they figured out reasons to fire me. Right. And I started my own independent pharmacy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Was that a scary moment for you? It wasn't because in many way, I was prepared. I was trained by corporate, so I understand their mentality. Got it. I knew something like that was going to happen. So they had it all planned, basically. By coincidence, corporate was in town. The day that I was supposed to leave on my vacation and then they disapproved my vacation.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And then I called in sick because I had my cousin's wedding to go to. And corporate was there on Monday to fire me. And you were there for like what, 20 years? 15. 15. So a large portion of your life you spent there and they to fire me. Wow. And you were there for like, what, 20 years? 15. 15. So a large portion of your life you spent there and they just fired you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Yeah, because I called in sick. Wow. That is nuts. And then from there, you opened up your own compounding pharmacy? Yes, I opened up my own independent pharmacy. And one of the thing was like, what is it that I need to compete against Walgreens and
Starting point is 00:03:06 Rite Aid and Target and everybody else what it what is it that make me special at my pharmacy so we focus on our customer our patient we get to know them by name we focus on the special things that we can provide them that isn't provided by the large chain. So I started to get into learning about compounding medication and drugs. I got a fellowship in anti-aging regenerative medicine, focusing on endocrinology, bioidentical hormones, pain cream therapies, and stuff like that. And because of that success, we were able to bring in a lot of people into the pharmacy from all over the valley. Got it. And certain people did not like that. One of those people was a DEA. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Well, the whole mess was during that time, there was a lot of opiate that's been dispensed by everybody, basically. And we were one of the top opiate dispenser in our area, too. And that's, in many ways, kind of our fault because we were indiscriminate of if you're Hispanic, if you're African-American, if you're Asian, if you're from the east side or the west side, you're welcome to come into our pharmacy. Even though you don't live in my nice, smooth neighborhood, right? And I still take care of you because I know that you're Mr. John Smith. I know your name. I know who you are. I know your story.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And I'll dispense that opiate for you and keep it in a monthly safe way for you as possible and keeping everything legit. But because of the volume, we got raided by the DEA. Holy crap. Yeah, we got raided by the DEA. Probably like, I don't know. Hey, Prime members.
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Starting point is 00:05:31 No, they didn't go to the house. They went to the pharmacy. Oh, okay. I wasn't even there. I was at an anti-aging course symposium. And so the staff calls me and I flew home. But they came and they took the record just to check the record and everything. And so they kept the record for three years, verifying every single prescription that we had dispensed for five years and make sure that they were not illegal prescription.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Got it. So ultimately what happened was they couldn't find that we did anything illegal, but they found that we made a lot of mistake. Like if the doctor wrote a prescription and they forgot to finish up the date or check the number of prescription box or they forgot to sign their name or they forgot to put a marker or something, whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:28 They forget every mistake that they found by just detailed examination of every single prescription. They wanted to find it's $25,000 for each mistake. If the doctor were to write three prescriptions and they forgot to check the box of zero to five or something, that's $25,000. Holy crap. Yeah, so we ended up getting a lawyer
Starting point is 00:06:53 and worked through a settlement. And they said, oh, you know, it cost us $200,000 to investigate the pharmacy. And so we want that $200,000 back from $101 million. That is nuts. So we just pay and let it go. And they put us on probation. And the board of pharmacy put us on probation for those mistakes and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And so ultimately, we had three years of probation. And every quarter we would bring outside auditor to come. And then every quarter a member of the board of pharmacy would come and audit our pharmacy. So they did that. Everything is fine and everything. And then for some reason at the end of three year the dea came back and said uh yeah we're gonna audit you again wow i'm like what the hell so i didn't know at that point in time i wanted to like not dispense any more opiate anyway and we weren't dispensing
Starting point is 00:07:59 like barely any opiate just just some likeD meds for the kids and stuff like that. But they still want to come back and they had an agenda I didn't know. I was there this time. They had agent coming in with the search warrant for records and everything. They were going to pack up the record and then they said, hey, I want to talk to you. Come in the office. I didn't know, but it was a trap they told me to like
Starting point is 00:08:27 turn off all the cameras and audios no recording and they said hey have you signed this paper saying that you're going to give up your
Starting point is 00:08:36 DEA schedule 2 dispensing then we'll leave all the record we won't audit you and we'll just call it a day i'm like okay great i then i don't need to dispense any more opiate which is not my goal anyway if i could
Starting point is 00:08:54 just keep the pharmacy running taking care of the patient without dispensing opiate drugs and force them in many way to like go to some less harsh drug, then it might work out. So I signed that. But the trick was that when you sign that, I didn't know, they send that out to your insurance company that you contract with. And the insurance company turn around and say, hey, you're not dispensing opiate medication,
Starting point is 00:09:24 then you can't have a contract whoa so it's it becomes this catch-22 where you have to dispense schedule two drugs if not you can't have an insurance contract to build the rest of the prescription wow and and we didn't know that so that put you out of business yeah basically So we ended up having to sell the pharmacy. That's crazy. And the DA probably knew that. Yeah. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:49 A lot of corruption. And so we didn't know, but they went through and did that to independent pharmacy all over California. Oh, wow. Yeah. And the reason was that we found out through our lawyers that because of the open crisis, Congress blamed the DEA for it, for not being strict. And so- So they were getting a lot of heat and attention, so they wanted to- Yeah, so they came back and said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:10:18 All these people, we're going to come back and punish them. Wow. And so- So CVS and Walgreens ended up buying all these local pharmacies, basically? Yeah. A lot of them did, or a lot of them just went out of business. But obviously, they went after the independent because independent don't have money and lawyers and everything. But what happened to all these chains that was doing the same thing, right? Yeah. I don't know many independent pharmacies, to be honest. I don't see them that often.
Starting point is 00:10:45 It's a dying breed between the PBM and the ability to operate a business. Right. It seems like CVS and Walgreens really have a monopoly on that market. Yes. Yeah. They do.
Starting point is 00:10:56 They do. So after that crazy situation happened, your wife got paralyzed, right? Yeah. How long after that happened did that happen? It was early part of our pharmacy business too. We must have opened like our pharmacy two years into the business. And basically my wife calls me at work and said,
Starting point is 00:11:18 hey, I don't feel good. You might need to pick me up. And I'm like, okay. So 15 minutes later, her staff calls like hey tk your wife it's on the floor she can't move we call the ambulance and the ambulance gonna take her to emergency room i'm like great okay i'll meet her at the emergency room so by the time i got to kaiser she was already in the emergency room on the gurney and i can see the attending doing a physical exam and the first thing they do is the leg test where they put the pin against your your feet yeah so your feet and ask her if she can feel it she said no she can't so they keep moving up she can't feel
Starting point is 00:12:01 any of any part of her body and then come to the palm of the hand they're like can you can you feel the pin on the palm of your hand can you squeeze it she's like yes i can i can i'm squeezing but it's flat and then the doctor put his finger and said can you squeeze my finger and she said yes i'm squeezing but her palm is out. Wow. So basically we looked at each other and knew that she was paralyzed. And they took her out, did CTs, MRI, all the blood tests. Two hours later or so, about there, came back and the attending and the neurologist came in and said, hey, this is what's going on. She's paralyzed.
Starting point is 00:12:44 We don't know why. Everything came back normal. Are you sure she's not on any illicit drugs or anything? I'm like, no, we do not do any of that for sure. And no fever, no physical injury. And so it was just a weird event. But fortunately, at that time, I already read joe's dispensers book you are the placebo and at that time i was already trained in technology and bioenergetic pmf smart tens
Starting point is 00:13:14 and stuff like that and i had enough practice in the independent pharmacy side of the business with consultation just to understand whatever was going on. And through my training in pharmacy and anatomy and physiology and bioenergetic, I kind of put everything together and really thought about, okay, what is it that I need to do? I need to stay calm and be confident and don't show weakness that I can heal my wife and put that intention there. So I pray for Joe Dispenza to come to that bed with me. And then I pray for my friend, Harry Massey, who owns Nest Health, who owns the technology.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And I asked them to help me pray and put the intention out there that we're going to heal my wife. So I talked to the attending and convinced them to let me just pray and do work on her energetically. And they left the room. And I worked on her at about, I think about three and a half hour in. Her toes started to move. That gave me more hope. I'm like, damn, this is working. Really like, fuck, this is working, right?
Starting point is 00:14:32 So I put more effort and prayer into it. And then five and a half hours later, she sat up. Crazy. And we took out her Foley. She took her IV bag and walked to the restroom and the nurse came in and was obviously very surprised not seeing her on that gurney ran out and called attending in and they were why i surprised that this lady who is paralyzed now is walking out of the restroom. And so we suggested to them that we're going to go home and work and heal from there at home.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And they obviously disagree and said that it's against medical advice and that the intensive care unit room is going to open up for her for more checkup and all that stuff. So we signed the no-consent form and walked out of the emergency room that night. But before we did that, the attending said that if she could walk from the room to his desk in the front and walk back by herself, then he'll let her go. And so she did that. She did walk back by herself then he'll let her go and so she did that she did all by herself crazy and uh so that event really pushed me to think okay if i have spirituality i have intention and bioenergetic and technology how do i use that to help people resolve their pain? Obviously, this was before the whole DEA thing.
Starting point is 00:16:10 We were already on the journey of how do we solve that. And through reading books like John Sarno's and Gabo Mate, a lot of the pain syndrome is about the trauma that we hold on to the stress the anxiety the story that we tell ourselves and it's not just about physical and anatomical injury but it's about psychological and emotional issues that we hold on to that can create the anxiety, the addiction, the alcohol, because it's hard for our conscious mind to deal with. And the other thing is the pain or the environment that we're in, right? And so we thought about that, and it's about energy.
Starting point is 00:17:02 How do we help people let go? Let go of what they're holding on to the story the culture the trauma we can transform that into a state where they feel safe they feel love and they retell the story differently then their pain can go away right so that's why you develop the cream right yes That's how we developed the cream by imprinting using NAS technology, imprinting frequency and journey into the cream. And it's about finding peace and love in the heart and letting go of our traumas and the thing that we hold on to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I can't wait to try it. It sounds similar to acupuncture, how that releases right exactly sean very similar the uh peter frazier who is one of the co-founder who passed away unfortunately um was the chief scientist and harry is the technology business person behind this and he was an acupuncturist teacher and principal at the first acupuncture school in Australia. Wow. So he applied a lot of the teaching of acupuncture and energy meridians and flow into a lot of the necessary practice.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Nice. So they have what this thing they call drivers where everything in our body and our field vibrate at a very specific frequency at the atomic level, and then they make up everything else. And then they have these things they call integrator, basically meridian channels, and how information are transferred from one point of the meridian to another. And that's another way that our body communicate.
Starting point is 00:18:46 So our body is made of biology, chemistry, neurobiology. It's also electrical. And in that electrical, there's that energy where we see sometimes like, okay, how do I see auras on people? How there is chakras and there is meridians. It's just another form of energy in the field. And they learn how to basically align and create coherence in the system. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah, this way of thinking is very different from a traditional pharmacist. Exactly. So many things and our goal is then like, how do we help people understand their issue, the root cause, the environment that they're in that can create their problem? But is it mental, psychological issue or is it physical issue and what is it that we need to do first prayer meditation physical therapy supplements do these things that are not as harmful yeah the the efficacy might not be as quick just be patient about it versus a drug right being a pharmacist you know we see we just spent thousands and thousands of prescriptions seeing thousands of patients client and we never see we hardly see any people get off a drug wow right if you're on a cholesterol medication you're on it for the rest of your life you're on a blood pressure medication most likely you're on it for the rest of your life you're on a blood pressure medication most likely you're on it for the rest of your life you're on opiate medication for chronic pain
Starting point is 00:20:30 you're on it for the rest of your life and why what are the side effects what are the implication of being on these things for the long term taking a drug that create an anatomical and pharmacologic reaction in the body has consequences to the rest of the system in the body. And when we don't be mindful of those consequences, before you know it, we start with one medication, we keep adding one more and one more. And in a couple of years years we're on five medication yeah because this cholesterol medication causes depletion of coq10 which is needed for your muscle to work properly and your cell to make atp in the crep cycle and you need that for energy now you
Starting point is 00:21:23 have low energy and they're like oh you might have issue. So we're going to give you a thyroid medication. Oh, wait, your muscle's cramping up because it's dying from depletion of CoQ10. You have a muscle relaxant issue. We're going to give you a muscle relaxant. And then you get on the muscle relaxant and they're like, oh, I don't feel good. You might have psychological mental health issues. And then they give you an SRI. And it just goes on and on. And then sometimes, oh, wait, the medication for this system is not working.
Starting point is 00:21:54 There's other control system. They give medication in the other control system. Now we're just trying to fix all these levers in control system, which isn't the thing. But if we go down to the root cause, energetically, psychologically, spiritually, how do we find that and fix it? Obviously, like if you have an alcoholic,
Starting point is 00:22:17 you don't want to put an alcoholic in front of a convenience store or in front of a bar. They shouldn't be living there change their environment absolutely yeah let's talk about the spiritual side because i know you did bufo with your wife yes that is a very extreme psychedelic so was there any build-up to that or you just went straight to bufo there was no build-up to that wow so no mushrooms or anything leading up to it? Basically, we started going to Burning Man the last six years. Yeah. And during COVID, 2019, obviously, Renegade burned and nothing happened.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And in 2020, everybody was hyped to get back in. So our Burning Man group said, hey, they canceled it. Why don't we just hang out at a place where we all can just hang out and be ourselves during Burning Man. So they organized a bufo ceremony for people to opt in if they want to do it and all that stuff. For some reason, it was our calling to do it, and we were going to do it and all that stuff and we're like for some reason it was our calling to uh to do it and we were gonna do it together came in and uh and uh the first day we were probably like the fourth or
Starting point is 00:23:33 fifth set of people to go yeah and uh it was outdoor and this under this beautiful um kind of like Indian reservation, previous Indian reservation with this giant tree. And we were supposed to go. And my wife was a little anxious. So she's like, let me go first. And so she went first. She took the first puff.
Starting point is 00:23:59 She went in. Oh, you smoke it? Yes. Yes, it was toe toxin. Got it. And basically you smoke it yes yes it was it was toe toxin got it and basically you smoke it like a crack pipe but um she came in and i was about 10 feet away and it was supposed to be my turn but i can hear when she came in she started talking to her dad so i came in they came and gave me the first puff and they saw that i was still
Starting point is 00:24:28 a little bit conscious and so they came and gave me the second puff i came then i came in and i asked the divine what is my sole purpose here on earth? Yeah. And during this time of like low vibration, COVID, culture separation, family unit was just torn apart. People was just torn between their beliefs, right? And so the divine said,
Starting point is 00:25:02 it's not your time yet. You need to be with your wife. And so all the bufo in my body just burned up like that. Whoa. And I just woke up, and they came to give me a third puff. I'm like, the divine said, it's not my time. So I went and sat with my wife. And in that, I can see here that she's talking to her dad
Starting point is 00:25:27 because she started telling her dad about me, about our kids, their names, their personality, like just introducing them to her dad, like the first conversation. And then she started talking to her sister who passed away when they escaped from Vietnam. Wow. And so we're like, this is weird, abnormal. And it generally should last 15 to 45 minutes. But she went on for two hours.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Holy crap. And so we took her from the site to the dining lounge area. And there's a pond there and everything. And she sat there and she's just in and out talking to her dad. And so we have all the support that we needed to all the people there. And it was 80 people, probably about 50 of them were doctors. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:29 So we had all the support that we need, but she was just in and out and it was just a weird, weird set of event. One of the theme that night was YMCA. So everybody's all dressed up funky and having fun. The music was too loud. The neighbor called the cop. And then like there's a storm came by,
Starting point is 00:26:54 created like a fire, burned the tree. And it was just weird series of event. And basically within the next four days, she was not herself and come to find out that the last morning in bed about probably four o'clock in the morning
Starting point is 00:27:15 we were supposed to leave Monday morning at four o'clock in the morning she's like honey there's something weird I see a lot of shadows in the room and i'm like damn this is not good so i called up my qigong master friend and he channeled then he's like tk what the fuck did you do there's spirits all over this room and they're getting into a lean they're like just popping in and out.
Starting point is 00:27:45 They're trying to get in and all that. And so she was basically in many ways levitating off of the bed. Holy crap. She was basically off of the bed by about a foot and was just bouncing up and out. And so I don't know why, but I started. She's like, Bruce needs your help. So I started meditating and came in. And in that realm of meditation, I see shadows. And I'm pulling shadows out through the door, just kicking them out,
Starting point is 00:28:19 just throwing them out. And before you know it, when I woke up in some way, she's on the floor next to the door. And then the chief of the land spirit came and said, I don't like what you guys are doing here. You're doing bad stuff on my land and basically I don't need you to cleanse it. But I want to talk to the two people who's in charge.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And we're like, okay. It's five o'clock in the morning. And basically, we're able to get their attention by seven o'clock to come in. And then the chief is like, hey, I need you to go cleanse all the sacred area. And initially, the chief said, everybody's not allowed to come back.
Starting point is 00:29:10 But after we apologized and cleansed and the chief then understand that we were there trying to help the place because they were going to go out of business. And when we came there, not we only pay, but everybody did like a funding to give extra money to for the
Starting point is 00:29:27 employees and for them to like pay their land and keep employee and all that stuff and and um so the chief understood that and said okay just just avoid the sacred space when you going to come back and all that stuff but basically I felt like okay it was a procession and then after the chief left then the real spirit that possessed her came out and said haha got you I'm like what you mean
Starting point is 00:30:01 and he's like you don't know me you don't know who i am and then he said i can see you and that gave me a flashback about five days ago when we drove route 66 to get to We stay at a Marriott in Albuquerque. And when we shower, we got out, the shower steamed up and in the mirror, there was writing on the mirror that said, I can see you. What the heck? This was before the Bufo? This is before the Bufo. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:30:42 That's crazy. Because we stopped by in Albuquerque for one night. Yeah. And so we brought our soap and everything, like the big Dr. Bonner bottle. Yeah, I use that. Yeah. So I put it on the tank of the toilet. I walked out. And both of those big jug of soap came off the floor, like came falling onto the floor i'm like what the hell
Starting point is 00:31:06 is it slippery or leaked or yeah i didn't think about it so i showered first i came out and then the door was open my wife came in and showered and then by the time she got out she's like haha it's not funny what you're talking about so i came in she's like look at the mirror and on the mirror it's it's themed up and it said, I can see you. I'm like, dude, that's just not funny. Obviously, I didn't do it to scare her, right? And I thought someone was just playing a joke from previous guests and they just didn't clean the mirror, right?
Starting point is 00:31:40 So we didn't think about it, but that brought us back when he came up and said that. And basically what happened with this spirit is that our guess is that he was a suicide spirit. And from our understanding is that they are trapped in this dimension. They can't go to heaven or they can't go down. And so for some reason, his suicide was very in line with the vibration of what my wife was holding onto. So basically, she had trauma at age five where she found her dad who had suicide.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Wow. And she hid that for 37 years and nobody knew about it until it showed up in the bufo, the story that she was someone who found him and was traumatized and hit that and she couldn't help them so she felt bad and hit that all that year and somehow this suicide spirit understood that saw that trauma and saw the love, witnessed the love that she and I have. And it wanted that. It wanted her for the love that she has, that she's giving me. And in that conversation with that spirit that possessed her, basically said, I want her.
Starting point is 00:33:21 She's mine. I'm not letting go. And it wouldn't. And so the doctors and the medicine guy thought that she didn't finish her Bufo journey. And they're like, we don't think it's a possession and we just need her to finish that. So I'm like, okay, fine. We'll do it just to finish the journey because we have never encountered this ourself yeah and so we went out to the edge of the ridge at our room and continue the journey and in that journey i came in with her this time and i saw the spirit and i'm fighting
Starting point is 00:34:00 with it like whatever i watch as a kid in terms of karate, kung fu, or whatever, I was using everything, fighting with this thing. At one point, the medicine guy said, Hey, TK, we have to use love now because it's not working. We just, she's out on the dirt, rolling all over the place as I'm fighting with the spirit. And so we try Ho'oponopono. What's that?
Starting point is 00:34:34 Basically, it's a prayer. It's about love and light and forgiveness. And so he talked to the spirit and said, hey, there's the light. Go to the light. I'm sorry. I love you. but you have to go you can't be in this body and all that stuff
Starting point is 00:34:48 but it wouldn't leave it had many voices of many stages of its life sometimes it felt like it was a kid talking to you and sometimes it was an adult and it was through her obviously her voice
Starting point is 00:35:03 but the tone was different. The context of the conversation was different. And so finally, they're like, okay, maybe it's a procession. Maybe it's the land. You need to leave. So I'm like, okay, we're going to go. Just throw everything in our car, drive out, maybe a Santa Fe. So we drove out.
Starting point is 00:35:22 By the edge of Santa Fe, The chief came back up and said, hey, this spirit can stay if he wants to. But we're not gonna, I can't force him. So,
Starting point is 00:35:37 but he, the spirit said, no, I'm not leaving. So I basically told the spirit if you don't leave by the time we
Starting point is 00:35:48 we get out on New Mexico we're taking you to California when we get to California my friend is gonna kill you my friend is so powerful
Starting point is 00:35:57 he's gonna kill you you could kill a spirit yeah and so in many ways it was a threat so I'm driving and the chief came up and said,
Starting point is 00:36:08 hey, you guys cannot stop. No food or anything. I'm like, how about gas? Can we stop for gas? And they're like, okay, you can get gas. So we got out of Santa Fe, and the spirit's like threatening us at this time. Like, if you don't stay in Santa Fe,
Starting point is 00:36:26 I'm going to come and hurt your kid. Whoa. And so I'm like, okay. Now he's threatening my family. So I called my friend Bruce and said, Bruce, he's threatening the kids now. So Bruce contacted the priest. The priest sent us a prayer through text of his prayer through voicemail.
Starting point is 00:36:49 And it was about the holy blood of Jesus and how that can cleanse the spirit. So we would play it. And every time we play, the sting would just scream and leave. Wow. But then we stop and we come back. So this is like a 12-hour drive into Pasadena. And we got to Pasadena probably like about 3 o'clock in the morning and came to the office the next morning and the priest was there.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And the priest blessed me to be able to see the angel that he sent to help us. And in that blessing, I saw the angel. One angel has always been standing with us. Wow. And now the priest is working on my wife. At this point in time, everything is on video. We recorded everything. Really?
Starting point is 00:37:43 Yeah. At this point what about when we were in santa fe we wanted to be respectful yeah of all the guests that was there and so we didn't record anything didn't take any pictures or anything but basically this thing started to make fun of the priest sticking his tongue out saying you nobody, you can't do anything to me. And it was wild seeing this thing. And this priest, who we have known, has many stories.
Starting point is 00:38:17 This is part of his repertoire of doing stuff, is deprocessing people, taking spirit out. Exorcism. Yeah. And so basically, yeah, he made fun of the priest but the priest had the appointment of like other people that was already in his schedule so he had to leave yeah came back the next day we worked on it so we worked on her uh for the next four days. Holy crap. Yeah. And just trying to get the spirit out. And in between our work every night, the spirit who is at some point kind of like a general hierarchy of spirit
Starting point is 00:38:57 called for other spirit to come and attack my friend Bruce and the priest. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. It's wild. And they would get attack at night so it's a high level spirit wow yeah and so um we said okay the next thing we want to do is the 13 sacred acupuncture points so every time he put in a needle through her foot her arm her nose when we fling the acupuncture point
Starting point is 00:39:26 the sting would scream oh wow yeah and so to the point where we got to the 13 acupuncture point
Starting point is 00:39:34 it's the one that drives through the heart that would then kill the spirit but Bruce Paul says at TK this last needle
Starting point is 00:39:43 if we kill the spirit, then we would take the karma of killing a spirit. Is this, at this point, is this what we want? Because if I do it, then it's a lean you and I.
Starting point is 00:39:58 We have to take on this karma. Wow. So we all just kind of like, what the hell? Like my wife, the spirit, is there another way? So, and he's like, there's another way. Then we won't do it. So he's like, I'm going to call someone.
Starting point is 00:40:19 So basically, but one of the interesting was during this four-day treatment, one of the day, I saw the angel standing at the door, guarding the door with a sword. And I came and grabbed the sword and stabbed her in the back. And this spirit in her would just scream like there is no tomorrow. Wow. It was wild it's just talking telling stories it's a whole different thing but when you experience the feeling the sensation then you know it's a whole different world wow and um so basically he called his friend
Starting point is 00:41:01 who is a chinese mystic she fac FaceTimed in and she said, yeah, this thing is going to kill this girl within a year. Holy crap. And so my friend Bruce is like, TK and Aline are like my family. I want you to help them. She's like, no, I don't do any of the spiritual work anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:22 She already quit doing that for years because every time she does it, they would attack her family. They wouldn't attack her, but they would attack her family so she doesn't want to risk that anymore. And so basically, he said that they're my family
Starting point is 00:41:42 and they have four kids. So if she died then it's our responsibility like like how would we feel about that right so she's like
Starting point is 00:41:54 damn it and so she channeled in and said I'm gonna read their karma if they have enough karma then I will help them so I guess she did her thing
Starting point is 00:42:04 she channeled in and read and said meet me at the office tomorrow so this is during covid we came to her office it's like out in the middle like really ghetto place like you wouldn't think and she has her shrine of the medicine Buddhas and all these statues and everything there. But I realized how powerful she was when she started to examine me. We sat about six feet away. And she has, in many ways, x-ray vision type of deal. She used her chi. And her chi goes right through me in her examination.
Starting point is 00:42:44 And it was like a gust of wind 35 40 miles and i guess it went right through me and i'm like this lady is legit it's no joke that's crazy and so she basically called for the spirit spirit came out made fun of her start making fun of her because he said oh you only speak Chinese so I started making like Chinese language Mercury and
Starting point is 00:43:11 which in some way was a good thing because it kind of like pissed her off so so she called for all the spirit
Starting point is 00:43:22 to come and to do a ceremony of reincarnation and ask what is it that they need for their reincarnation journey so that way she can give them the ability to reincarnate. And so they generally, fruit, money, jewelry, whatever they need for their journey.
Starting point is 00:43:43 And so she did that, but the spirit refused to give her his name and birth date and refused to leave. So we went and bought whatever we need to do for the ceremony and came back to her place and did the ceremony. And so basically she sent us home. She's like, hey, go home by midnight. My spiritual guide will come and take this thing out
Starting point is 00:44:14 because he's refusing to leave. So we're like, we're not bringing this spirit home. But she's like, no, trust me, go home. And she also mentioned like your daughter she didn't fall and sprain her right ankle the spirit came and pushed her off the ladder wow remember the spirit like threatened yeah yeah we didn't tell her about that but she told us about it like god damn it and so she also some of the interesting she also told me was like
Starting point is 00:44:46 hey the fox is upset at you like how does she know it's about the fox like yeah you shot the fox in the butt
Starting point is 00:44:56 with a BB gun like oh damn it I did because when we moved to the house out on the farm
Starting point is 00:45:03 the fox was like tearing up all the AC stuff under the basement. And we had wild kitten that came. And we're like, okay, now we're going to take care of the kitten. And so the fox and the fox family was just hanging out in the backyard. And I shot it with a BB gun in the butt just to scare it away. And she knew about it? Yeah. And she said that the fox came and complained. then i'm like okay what else who's complaining it's like
Starting point is 00:45:31 the tree complained that you cut it down i'm like oh damn it like the oak tree that was dying when i first moved in yeah complain i cut it down like damn and so yeah we end up having to do the ceremony to ask for forgiveness for these spirits and all that stuff but the point is sean is that everything has its consciousness everything has its soul right how do we live with all of this in harmony yeah in a spiritual path and and be mindful of everything, right? Absolutely. And so that was the whole. So she got the demon out, though, once you went home?
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah, yeah. Basically, we went home, and she said, you come home. These are the medicine you take. And the medicine that she gave was her gift is that when she was born in some way gifted in northern part of China, when she was five, because of her ability to see the spiritual world, the village would be scared and force her family to throw her out. So she ran away and live in the mountain and she would come down to the cemetery
Starting point is 00:46:46 and eat the food that are used for prayer in the cemetery and in her vision at night the medicine Buddha
Starting point is 00:46:53 would come to teach her Guan Am is the Buddhist priestess would come to teach her and
Starting point is 00:47:02 there's a whole book about her and all her ability it's a whole book about her wow and all her ability it's the defying master Zang
Starting point is 00:47:09 I gotta read that Z-H-A-N-G and she has special healing ability basically and she's in touch with the medicine Buddha
Starting point is 00:47:18 so when she did the prayer she said that the medicine Buddha wanted to give you medicine to my wife and we closed our eyes to prayer, she said that the Medicine Buddha wanted to give you medicine to my wife. And we closed our eyes to pray
Starting point is 00:47:28 and she said, no, don't close your eyes. I want you to see. So she did her mutras and stuff and in the palm of her hand, a ball of Chinese medicine came out. She gave it to Aline.
Starting point is 00:47:42 She said, you're going to take this before midnight. And then she said, she gave it to elene she said you're gonna take this uh before midnight and then she said she did it again and then powder of herbal medicine came out in her hand and then she put it in an envelope for us and she said you're gonna smell this um for the next few days and so we came home and that night she sent her to general in chinese religion apparently there's this general general juan who has built up to a spiritual level and you see a lot of the statue of the general with the mustache and the hat and holding the blade and stuff like that. That's General Juan.
Starting point is 00:48:29 And she sent him in our sleep, conscious, unconscious state at about 4 o'clock in the morning or 3 in the morning. Sometime in the morning, I see him and his helper came and stand at the bed stand. And I'm like, do I wake up? Am I dreaming? If I wake up, I would scare him. He would leave. He's here for that purpose. And so I pretended I was sleeping.
Starting point is 00:49:00 But in many way, when you're pretending you're sleeping, somehow you just go back into that sleep state or something. And he came and just yanked the spirit out and went with it. And that morning, I woke up, touched my wife. I felt and knew that the spirit is gone and she's back. Nice. The color of her complexion came back. Just the whole feeling that she's back.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Just mind you, now we're like on day 14 of this whole thing. And I slept with her every day just to hold her. And the spirit's there. You can feel there's a huge difference. That's incredible. What can feel there's a huge difference. That's incredible. What a journey. Yeah. Let's close off with the water man
Starting point is 00:49:48 and your purpose in life because you finally did the Bufo and they told you your purpose was to spread love, right? Yes. Yes. In that, basically, my question to the divine and the divine answer was
Starting point is 00:50:00 part of my job here with many humans is to help spread love to humanity. And I asked, how do I do that? So the divine said, we already gave you the technology. You have to find the simplest way to do it. And when we woke up from that vision, we had another hard stop in our business because of COVID. We couldn't get inventory. So we put our cream business out for eight months. And then we thought, okay, maybe the divine is telling us to take a hard turn
Starting point is 00:50:35 and really think about what it's telling us. And so we're like, okay, if our job is to help spread love to humanity, how would we do that? And we know that in some pseudoscience, energetic theories, energy work, that water has consciousness, water has memory. Water can be structured to carry information. One way to do that is just think,
Starting point is 00:51:01 if we can get Wi-Fi, video, YouTube, and Netflix, and everything out of thin air without seeing or hearing the frequency and the wave, that's information. If we apply that same theory, if we put in energy and information and encodes that in water in terms of vibration and consciousness and raise that consciousness of that water, just like we pray over our food, then when people drink it, we can raise their vibration, raise their mindset into that state where it's about love, it's about peace, it's about joy. And when we communicate in that level versus fight and flight versus hate jealousy envy then the conversation
Starting point is 00:51:47 becomes different then our communication yeah become different and we can spread love that way wow and so that's what it's coated in the water yeah and hydrogen right yeah yeah. Even if you don't believe in if it's work or not, we added the hydrogen, huge benefit, powerful antioxidants, so many great things. Yeah, Dave Asprey is the one who introduced us and he spoke highly of it as well. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, so obviously thank you, Dave, for introducing us
Starting point is 00:52:19 and I appreciate you inviting me into your podcast. Absolutely, man. We'll link the water below. Anything else you want to promote or close off with? No. Oh, I'm really grateful. Grateful for everyone, for sure. And, you know, if we can help spread love to humanity
Starting point is 00:52:35 at a time of war, time of divisions, let it all do it. Let it all join force and do it. Absolutely. I love it. Powerful message. Thanks so much for coming on. Great story. Thank you, Sean. Yeah. Thanks for force and do it. Absolutely. I love it. Powerful message. Thanks so much for coming on. Great story.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Thank you, Sean. Yeah. Thanks for watching, guys, as always. See you tomorrow. On November 13th, it's the dawning of a new era. When the NFL debuts in Germany, live on NFL Network. Brady and the Bucs. Touchdown, Tampa Bay!
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