Digital Social Hour - Avoid This Business Blunder: Mentor Mistakes That Cost Millions! | Gary Coxe DSH #590

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

🔴 Avoid This Business Blunder: Mentor Mistakes That Cost Millions! 🚨   Tune in now to the latest episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! In this eye-opening conversation, we're jo...ined by the incredible Gary Coxe who’s flown in on his private jet to share his game-changing insights on mentorship, business mastery, and the shocking traps that could cost you millions! ✈️💼   Gary dives deep into the crucial mistakes entrepreneurs make when choosing mentors and how aligning with the wrong values can lead to disastrous outcomes. From jet masterminds at luxurious Sandals Resorts 🏝️ to overcoming a cult's mind control, Gary’s journey is nothing short of extraordinary. He reveals the secrets to breaking free from limiting beliefs and achieving exponential growth without burning out.   Don’t miss out on these invaluable lessons: - How to select the right mentor for your business. - The art of leveraging high-end networking. - Transformative mindset shifts for skyrocketing success. - Real stories of overcoming massive debt and personal challenges.   Join the conversation and watch now for insider secrets that can pivot your business to new heights! 📈✨   📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀   #DigitalSocialHour #SeanKelly #Podcast #Mentorship #BusinessBlunders #GaryCoxe #Entrepreneurship #MindsetMastery #BusinessSuccess #WatchNow   #SeanKellyPodcast #SuccessMindset #BusinessGrowth #MentorSuccess #MentorAdvice   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:39 - Gary Coxe on the Jet 04:46 - How to Find a Mentor 08:21 - Gary Coxe Joins a Cult 11:57 - Overcome ANY Fear in 30 Minutes 16:00 - Change Your Story and BELIEVE It 17:30 - Why You Don’t Want to Be a Billionaire 20:00 - Why JT Became a Pilot 21:40 - UFOs 23:59 - JT’s Cult Experience 27:43 - Overcoming the Fear of Public Speaking 29:24 - People Pleasing 31:07 - What Gary is Up to Now 31:48 - Sean Outro   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com   GUEST: Gary Coxe https://www.instagram.com/garycoxe https://garycoxe.com/ https://beyondfirstclasswithgary.com/jv https://incontrolofmymind.com/    SPONSORS: Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, number one, have enough common sense that making sure that when you take the advice from that person, that their values and beliefs match with yours. Those that don't, throw them out. Those that do, keep them. Right. I love that because people just have one mentor, but I have many in different verticals. So I have a health one. I have a spiritual one. I have a business one.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Nice. The problem when you listen to just the business one is it's just going to be money, money, money. Right. So people get lost in that. A hundred percent. Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe. It helps a lot with the algorithm. It helps us get bigger and better guests and it helps us grow the team. Truly means a lot. Thank you guys for supporting. And here's the episode. All right, guys, we got Gary Cox here. He came in on the jet. Thanks for coming, man. I did. I did.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Thanks for having me. I'm honored, man. You and i did oh bro you and i've been communicating for literally like you said years right years and i know you recently i think went to miami and i didn't make it because i was in florida so but yeah we're here now so looking forward to this absolutely man what you've been up to lately uh not too much just doing a lot of my you know our jet mastermind programs and um decided to you know programs and decided to probably took about maybe five years to kind of slow down and chill a little bit. So I'm back on. So that means I'm going to do a lot more speaking engagements on stage.
Starting point is 00:01:15 So I'm looking forward to that. I missed that. I've done probably over 3,000 speaking engagements. So slow down a little bit. So I'm ready to rock and roll and get things back up and get the Jet lit up and hit some more masterminds. And I guess you know this, our sponsor is Sandals Resort. So that's where we take all of our clients for the masterminds in the Bahamas. So it's not a bad gig. Yeah, that's a top tier resort, man. Yeah, it is. Yeah. What goes down on a jet mastermind?
Starting point is 00:01:38 Well, what we do is we show other coaches how to create their own masterminds and be able to do it. Many times, a lot of people think, how do you do a jet? And it's a lot of money. There's so many ways to massage this where you can use your client's money to put all this together. And then we also show people how to really take their business to another level. Most people don't travel in a private jet or get to do it regularly. And when you experience something like that, you realize that, wait a minute, there's another way to live. And it gets you to figure out what's the next chess piece
Starting point is 00:02:08 that I need to move in the business to make this happen. And a lot of times it's not extra work. It's just doing something a little smarter. You know, just one more little tiny piece to make the difference. And that's what we give the people the exposure to. And it's a full day.
Starting point is 00:02:22 You know, we do everything from the police escort, the police shuts down the traffic for them. We just want them to see an incredible experience and they remember it for a lifetime. And more and more importantly, they take the content that they learn from it and they use that and they implement it and then they get the results.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I love that. Once you go private, it's hard to go back. Man, it really is. We have a saying with regards to a necessity. How's it go again? When I remember it, I'll throw it at you. But I know a luxury sampled once becomes a necessity. So once you taste it, you can't go back.
Starting point is 00:02:54 It's really difficult. Absolutely. Same with cars too. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. So you're in Miami right now? No, we're in central Florida between Tampa and Orlando. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And these masterminds are all over? Well, typically we do the masterminds at Sandals Resorts in the Bahamas. So what we'll do is most people will come and meet in central Florida, come meet me there. And then we leave early in the morning and go out and come back late that night. Masterminds are also another game changer, man. No, they are because what it does is it gets you, and you know this better than anybody, your proximity is your power, your network is your net worth. And when you hang around people that are regularly talking about,
Starting point is 00:03:31 yeah, we did this and it made us a half a million dollars, or we did this and it made us 20 grand, and when you're not around that, it seems to be so foreign to you. But when you're around it consistently, you recognize that, wait a minute, if I'm not doing it, there's ways to do this. And the mastermind gets you, we limit it to about eight people. So it's very intimate. You know, great big seminars have their strengths as well. But there's also, I remember when I was younger, I used to think, well, you know, I would love the opportunity to hang with this person,
Starting point is 00:03:59 like hang with a Sean. How do I get to hang with you and pick your brain? And that's where this concept came up with. So it gives people the opportunity to spend an intimate time with somebody like myself. And then basically I can answer whatever questions they have for their business. So I do a lot of, as you know, the TV shows. And so we'll talk about that. But I try to give them as much content that they can use and do something with right away that they can turn some type of a profit or make a big shift in their company. And I was very blessed also when I was younger, Sean, I was mentored by two millionaires and later a billionaire. And I learned so much from incredibly, incredibly successful people, even though I personally have no desire to be a billionaire. We can talk about that later.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Maybe, I don't know. But I do want to learn a lot from them where I can either implement it for myself or share it with other people. Yeah, mentorship is crucial. So talk to me how you got that first one because people struggle finding that first one. You know, it was actually quite interesting that you asked that. When I was 16, I had started my second business at 15. So when I was 16, I was able to drive. And then I saw this really cool office plaza, and I wanted to start my own wholesale jewelry manufacturing and repairing, and that's what I used to do.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I repaired Gordon's Jewelers and Zales and JCPenney's and all that stuff as a young kid. And I saw this office building, and I thought, I can't afford that. But you know what? I'm going to try it. I knocked on the guy's door, the landlord who owned it, millionaire, and he said, let's see. Let me look at this with you. And I didn't have a lot of money at that time. And he offered me a spot for rent. We became very good friends and he became my millionaire mentor. And there's things in my brain to this very day.
Starting point is 00:05:40 This was when I was a teenager. There's things in my brain to this very day that I use to control and do and change in my business. One of them is the smart person believes half of what they hear. The intelligent person knows which half to believe. You don't believe everything you hear. So I'm one that's always questioning things because too many times people are very robotic. I see a lot of people, they'll take a mentor. And if you're not careful, what happens is if you don't use a lot of common sense, you will place a higher status on somebody in your mind, higher than they should be. And because of that, you will listen to everything
Starting point is 00:06:17 they say. And that's called being programmed. And when you are able to determine, wait a minute, what that person's saying makes sense. Like I'll have my billionaire mentor when he was alive, he would give me advice and some of it I would take and some of it I wouldn't. You got to have enough common sense
Starting point is 00:06:35 because everybody's values and beliefs are different. You know, people say, are you interested in coming on the Digital Social Hour podcast as a guest? We'll click the application link below in the description of this video. We are always looking for cool stories, cool entrepreneurs
Starting point is 00:06:48 to talk to about business and life. Click the application link below, and here's the episode, guys. You'll see somebody that makes more money than you do. So the tendency is to go, what, listen to them, which is not necessarily a bad thing. It's like going to the gym. You see the guy who's really, really big. The first thing we want to do if we want to build muscle is go to who? Go to the really, really big guy. So he says, well, you lift the weight this way and then you do it this way. But he didn't tell you he's also working out seven days a week. He doesn't have a relationship anymore because his wife can't handle him anymore because he's on steroids and that's how he got so big so quick. So all these different things that you don't take into consideration. And so when it comes to finding
Starting point is 00:07:25 the right mentor, it's important to figure out, okay, number one, have enough common sense that making sure that when you take the advice from that person, that their values and beliefs match with yours. Those that don't, throw them out. Those that do, keep them. Right. I love that because people just have one mentor, but I have many in different verticals. So I have a health one, I have a spiritual one, I have a business one. Nice. The problem when you listen to just the business one is it's just going to be money, money, money. So people get lost in that. A hundred percent. And I think that's why it's
Starting point is 00:07:52 so important that people get of the mindset to have the exposure of different kinds of people like you do. And sometimes you can have two coaches in the same venue sometimes or the same folder because you're getting different perceptions. And that's what I call UCS, use common sense. That's where by using common sense, you can determine, okay, that fits my model, that fits my thinking, that fits my values and beliefs. Okay, I'm going to take that, this one I don't like, and then make your own decisions. Absolutely. So you mentioned being programmed earlier. I think that's a good segue into the cult stuff. Yeah. So how long were you part of that? I was in the cult into my 40s, man. Holy.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's all I knew. I'm talking. In fact, Sean, it was so crazy when I left, right? I didn't even know what. I'm literally like, if I wanted to, I could cry right now. I'm not kidding you.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Wow. When I left, I would not even know what day of the week it was. I did this for nearly six months. I would have to look at the calendar to figure out what day of the week it was. Why is that? The reason being is you're so conditioned to do every day you do this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this every single day for 40 years. And then all of a sudden I decide, you know what? I'm gone. I'm out. And everything is so conditioned on every single day that you do this, this, and that. And I don't have that routine anymore. And man, it was the most unusual thing ever to literally have to look at the calendar
Starting point is 00:09:14 for nearly six months to get to the point where I could realize what frigging day of the week it was. So they don't have a calendar when you're in there? No, they do. But the thing is, I'm so used to doing Sunday this, it's Monday this, it's Tuesday this, Wednesday this. And then all of a sudden you don't have a calendar when you're in there? No, they do. But the thing is, I'm so used to doing Sunday this, it's Monday this, it's Tuesday this, Wednesday this. And then all of a sudden you don't have that anymore. That routine is gone.
Starting point is 00:09:30 So I literally could not figure out what day of the week it was. That's crazy. Were you allowed to pursue any business when you were a part of that? I was, but it was very limited. Every time I would be on TV, and I'm laughing because one of your guys on the team knows exactly what I'm talking about. Every time I'd get on TV, that's causing too much attention to myself.
Starting point is 00:09:47 So the people in the cult, if they saw me on TV, they'd go to the superiors and they would pull me in the back and say, you know, you shouldn't be bringing so much attention. It was ridiculous. So, yeah, it definitely stunted my financial growth financially like you would not believe and i still have ripple effects that i have to work on because you're so programmed in that to believe that if you're if things are really hard ah that's a sign that you're doing well wow so what will happen is when i'm doing really well is then i'll figure out something to take it to the next level but take more risks than i probably should and granted it's gotten to me where i've gotten but it's a little more than i need to because i'm so used to having things hard all the time and struggling so it's a pattern i have to constantly work on breaking and it was probably tough to get
Starting point is 00:10:32 out because your family and your friends were in it so that was all you knew yeah um that's that's that's the i think i've been through everything from you know my father was murdered when i was 17 my wife and i we had a. She tells me it's not mine. I mean, a lot of crap by the time I was 21. That's a cakewalk compared to leaving this cult. Because like you said, all your so-called friends and family, they'll shun you for life.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I've spoken to my mother once in what, 15 some odd years. And now it's like me taking Sean and say, Sean, I'm going to pick you up. I'm going to put you in a third world country. You don't know where you're going to be. I'm just going to drop you there. And by the way, all the people that you've known all your life, they'll never talk to you again.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Start all over. Wow. And that's tough. I didn't realize how difficult it was. It put me $350,000 in debt. Dang. Nearly overnight. Holy crap.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I remember borrowing $75,000 on a credit card because I was not able to function mentally enough to keep the business going. And I never thought it would be that difficult. I wish I had planned it a lot better. Man, that's a big amount of debt. How long did it take you to get out of that? It took me a couple years. I actually went on the road for three years and three months living in hotels, selling my books and my programs all over the country.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Holy crap. So you had to sell books and programs just to get out of that. Yeah. Man. 3,000. Three years. You must have been so stressed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I did 600 presentations in those three years. Holy crap. And you were selling mindset training? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want to dive into that because you're able to help people overcome limits, phobias in 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Yeah, I did. I was very blessed to do a three-year run on Dr. Phil's show, The Doctors. So I think what's helped me, Sean, is because I've been through so much pain and so many challenges in my life, I'm able to feel the pain of what other people have been through. And then I remember when I was going through trying to get over a lot of this, what were the practical things that I did that I could share with somebody else that would help them get from point A to point B? Not this, you know, you're great, you're wonderful,
Starting point is 00:12:31 you know, it'll be all better. Well, yeah, great, but whatever. But when you go through all this stuff and your emotional hard drive is full of emotional pain, you know, what happens is, is every time you do something that doesn't work in your favor, if you're not careful,
Starting point is 00:12:43 you'll reflect on all the other pains you've had in the last 10, 20 years of your life. And if you don't have specific strategies to circumnavigate that, you're not going to get better or remove that very, very quickly. And one of the examples I give, Sean, is that when we're born, we're programmed to be a slave to our feelings, right? When you're born, you cry. You're just constantly programmed to be a slave to our feelings. So what I encourage people to do is you have to learn to lead your feelings, not be a slave of them. So every time you have a negative emotion or any emotion for that matter, positive or negative, you'll do one or two things.
Starting point is 00:13:13 You'll either ignore it or you'll reward it. And you stop and think about every single emotion that you have all day long, subconsciously, you're either ignoring it or rewarding it. And when you're consciously aware of that, you're then able to intercept and stop it if it's not going in your favor. And it becomes very, very powerful. So I've been able to develop a very fast way of getting people to rewire their thinking. In fact, when I do it on stage, it's kind of cool. I'll bring somebody who's deathly phobic of a snake, for example, and I'll find the worst, most phobic person I can in that room, bring them on stage.
Starting point is 00:13:49 They're crying, fetal position, the whole nine yards, and then I'll show them. I'm going to share with them. A lot of times as business people, we tell people to make a quantum leap in their life or in their business, and to make a quantum leap is to have the ability to move when you're not ready. Most people are looking for ways to be ready to have the ability to move when you're not ready. Most people are looking for ways to be ready to make the move. So what I share with the audience, I'll ask them, how many of you here in the audience are willing to make a quantum leap today? And of course, what does everybody do? Put their hand up. But when you see and realize that, hey, wait a minute, a quantum leap is making a move when you're not ready. Let me demonstrate that. So then I bring this person on stage who's
Starting point is 00:14:23 like literally in tears. And when I'm done, they're without hypnosis holding a 10-foot snake and everybody's like freaking out and they're watching the process so i teach them the process as i'm doing it so they understand it so when you walk away from the event you know steps that you can use to implement to get things done faster that is impressive yeah it's very cool it's very very cool a lot of fun so on the tv shows that's what i do i do it and just in a very fast concentrated level it's a little tougher sometimes because if it's a live to tape show you know they'll bring me on talk about what the problem is bring me and the person backstage and they'll have the show running during the rest and i gotta get the person done by the time they finish the next segment so you got one try one one shot but uh it's been it's been pretty some people go to therapy for decades trying to fix their fears
Starting point is 00:15:08 i i'm the person typically they'll come to like when they bring me the people on the show they bring me people who have been to therapy for 10 or 20 years yeah so that's the typical and if i feel that i can't reverse that in one session i don't take them on interesting it was always too i tried it was too slow for me it's ridiculous and. And look at the model. I'm not dissing these people or anything like that, but the model is I would want 20 of you every week for the rest of your life, right? But I can't sleep at night. I want to be challenged and say, wait a minute, I want you once. Let me see what I can do with you and knock this out one time. It's a hard business model, right? But I sleep better at night.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Yeah, they want you as long as you can. Rather than yourself, you want them in and out within an hour. Right. Now, if it's a business thing, it's a little different, right? Because that's something you can constantly mold and tweak and so on. You can work with a business client for years as a mentor or as an advisor. But on something like that, psychologically, no, it doesn't take that long. What have you seen with negative mindsets?
Starting point is 00:16:02 Because my dad, specifically, very pessimistic, growing up, kind of rubbed off on me. Is that something you could fix pretty quick? Well, yes and no. A lot of that, as you can understand from your background, is very, very ingrained. But what I like to tell people when it comes to their mindset, what's the difference really between a negative thought and a positive thought? And the difference is the outcome in your mind. So stop and think about it. If you're thinking about something negative, what about it is negative? Well, what would be the outcome on this thought? And then that's how you determine really what a negative and positive thought is. So you just can't say, I can't,
Starting point is 00:16:37 and then say you can, and then now you're a positive person. Because if I say, I can't, I can't, I can't, and you say, but Gary, say you can. Well, now I say, I can, I can, I can. I can say, I can, I can, I can, until I'm blue in the face, but I still don't believe it. And if I don't believe I can, then I still can't. So you'll hear people say, change your story, change your life. That's not true, because you can just change your story that does not change your life. Changing your story, then believing your story, that will change your life. So now you focus on the belief of the new story, not change your life. Changing your story, then believing your story, that will change your life. So now you focus on the belief of the new story, not just the story.
Starting point is 00:17:10 So how can you frame your mind to start believing? That is the million-dollar question. The reason being is because every situation is different. Every approach is different. So if I had 10 people with the exact same problem, I'll have probably maybe 10 different approaches, depending on their mentality, depending on their background and so forth. You mentioned earlier you didn't want to become a billionaire. Correct. How come? I'm not willing to pay the price.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I don't want to pay the price. I have some lovely friends who are billionaires and I just don't want to pay the price. I don't need a billion dollars. Right, because you're mentored by a billionaire, so you get a firsthand view of his life. Oh, I know so much. I mean, I love a lot of this stuff, but it's just not for me. I mean, I'm fine with 100 million.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I can live just as well on 100 million than a billion. Yeah, I feel like there's no difference in lifestyle from 100 to a billion. No, not if you do it right. And the thing is, there's always a price to pay. It's like the guy in the gym, right? It's like the guy in the gym. He's really big. You want to pay the price? How big do you want to get? I'm okay with maybe half the muscle. I don't know. And I say this nothing against Warren Buffett, and it's public. Warren Buffett, he's a billionaire,
Starting point is 00:18:19 and he's had a mistress for decades. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. But why? Because he's traveling all the time. His wife don't want to be with him, and he's still married. Wow. Right? So now I'm willing to listen. Would you not listen to Warren Buffett's business advice? You'd be foolish not to.
Starting point is 00:18:34 But there's a lot of things I may not want to listen to because it may not agree with my values and beliefs. And maybe it will. Then if it does, great. So this is where I get people to think, wait a minute, let's go a little deeper. And I tell people, don't just listen to everything I got to say, because maybe I got something to say. It might be right, but it might not be according to your values and beliefs. So then you probably shouldn't do it. Because that's why when I'm coaching somebody or mentoring somebody, I'll say, Sean, here's my suggestion to you. Do you buy into it? And I give you the
Starting point is 00:19:01 opportunity to say no, because I don't want you to be a yes man. Now, say no i'll tell you sean i think that's pretty stupid or i'll say sean i totally agree with you let's go ahead and look at this what about this because why would i force you to do something that's against your value and beliefs i love that it doesn't make any sense unless your value and beliefs are something that's not in harmony with your goal and needs to be changed that's a different story yeah i'm not a fan of yes man man yeah i don't do it i don't like people i don't do when people aren't their authentic selves i could i could sense it within a minute yeah for real yeah it's not cool man all those yes men out there stop doing that shit man because exit they're trying to please but they don't realize that some people don't like that right you know just be honest and you know what's interesting when you're not a yes
Starting point is 00:19:42 man you attract people that don't need that but if when you're a yes man and you're always in the yes, then you attract people that always want that. I would rather not be that yes man and also let people know that work with me. I don't want that because I want your honest opinion. I don't have so much ego where I'm not willing to hear your opinion about something. Right. What made you want to become a pilot? Because I know your uncle actually passed away in a pilot crash, right? He did. He did. In fact, that was the death of my pilot's license for a while, pun intended, I guess, because I started flying very early.
Starting point is 00:20:11 And then when he crashed, I was still living at home and I go to the airport to take my next lesson. My instructor says, your mom just called and you're done, bro. Damn. I go, what the what? So I had to wait till I got out of the house and blah, blah, blah. But yeah, no, I'm addicted to it, man. It's just an amazing thing. I love it. I fly helicopters, jets, single engines. I've owned helicopters and airplanes forever.
Starting point is 00:20:33 But for me, it's a great way to keep the brain going. It's a great lifestyle, and I've been able to incorporate that into my jet mastermind retreats. Yeah, that's brilliant. It's a lot of fun. And you just trained Dan Henry. Yeah, no, Dan and I, we've been friends for a little while now, and he's been doing some flying. And as you know, as you mentioned, we came over here in the jet,
Starting point is 00:20:54 so that was a lot of fun. But it just raises your game, that's for sure. But the lifestyle, nothing like it, man. That's a long route in a jet from Florida. Yeah, no, it was a was full day yeah wow florida i did you know i mean i don't get heard that often but i realized that wait a minute crap that you're like right on the california border man yeah it's a five hour flight yeah it's it's east to west and the jets can't fly as fast as commercial right no it depends on the jet in fact what was so cool um we were at 34 000 feet coming over here
Starting point is 00:21:24 and then on the radio they're calling out hey you know we've got a jet a thousand feet above you it In fact, what was so cool, we were at 34,000 feet coming over here, and then on the radio, they're calling out, hey, we've got a jet 1,000 feet above you with Spirit Air, and you could just see him right above it. It was so cool. So yeah, we're up there with the airliners. Damn. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:36 That's pretty close. Oh, yeah, it's very close. I'd be a little nervous. No, it's slick, man. I mean, you could see him just like shoot. So cool. So cool. You see any UFOs up there?
Starting point is 00:21:48 No, but I've definitely seen meters and stuff like that. Really? Yeah. Oh, it's awesome. Meteors. One day, it was at night, obviously. I guess, obviously, I've never seen one in a day. So it was at nighttime.
Starting point is 00:21:58 We're flying over the Gulf. And it was like this massive green and purple. And it was so huge that everybody on the radio, on the pilot's radio, were talking. Did you see that? We saw it for miles and miles. Wow. And that landed on Earth? Yeah, I'd imagine so. I don't know if it completely dissipated before it got there, but it was massive. It was huge.
Starting point is 00:22:17 It was so big that everybody, and you just don't talk on the radios unless you're acknowledged or you have a question, but people were just like, shh, and that's just unheard of damn that's fascinating and then one time we came back from the bahamas from our mastermind and then we saw spacex go up at night that was freaking cool i saw starlink once in the hot tub that was isn't that cool really cool i thought it was ufo right right right yeah i've never but i know i've heard of other pilots doing it but i've never but the meteorite stuff i've seen how far does the radio go? Can you communicate with planes?
Starting point is 00:22:45 Oh, hundreds of miles. Really? Oh, yeah, yeah. Depending on how high you are. Oh, absolutely. Wow. So pilots are just chatting it up up there? Well, it's more organized than that.
Starting point is 00:22:54 It's valuable real estate, so you don't want to overdo it. Wow. That's cool. What has been your favorite places to fly to? I like the Berry Islands. It's my little private little island. Berry Islands. The Berry Islands. I haven't heard of them. In the Bahamas. Okay. I got to get out there, man. No Islands. It's my little private little island. The Berry Islands.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I haven't heard of them. In the Bahamas. Okay. I got to get out there, man. No, you don't. Keep it that way. It's very quiet. We don't like anybody out there. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I'll set you up. I'll fly you out there with me. No, it's a private island. You go out there for a weekend. It's a seven-mile beach part of it, and you might be good to see five people for the whole weekend. It's the best. How do you eat food and stuff man you ask good questions you gotta you gotta fly it in sometimes oh because there's a boat that comes in once a week and if the boat doesn't come in because of weather then everybody's
Starting point is 00:23:37 you know out on starving there's like two little um two little grocery stores one bar and uh that's it wow yeah it's a lovely little island but it's getting a little bit more populated now a lot more two little grocery stores, one bar, and that's it. Wow. It's a lovely little island, but it's getting a little bit more populated now. People are catching on. People are fleeing the country. It's a pretty crazy time right now. This election is going to be pretty pivotal, I think.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Oh, man, it's going to be nuts. It's going to be nuts. I try to stay out of it. I'm with you. So now that you brought it up, I guess some people get pissed off or not. I've never voted in my life. Really?
Starting point is 00:24:06 Okay. Because that's part of the cult thing. And I love that because I can say the present president, I can say something about him is really good and this part about him is really stupid. And the other people, that part's pretty good and that part's pretty stupid. I love just being in the middle of however I want to be. I didn't know people in cults couldn't vote. That's interesting. No, you can't. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Well, not this cult. Oh, no. Wow. No, no. How many people were with you? Was this like a bigger one? Yeah, 7 million total. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:24:35 7 million people? Dude, you know what I found out about this stuff, Sean? Smart people can do really stupid things. I'm not the dumbest person in the world, but I was in there doing stupid things and really stupid things. You know, I'm not the dumbest person in the world, but I was in there doing stupid things and thinking stupid things. You know, I mean, it's, and it just, it shows how easy we can be programmed. I mean, it's great. Like, I'll give you an example. I remember dating this girl after I left the call, right? I remember dating this girl and she's a tall girl. She said to me, how tall are you? I go, I'm 6'1". She said, you can't be 6'1". What
Starting point is 00:25:05 do you mean I can't be? I'm 6'1". So she's really acute to that because she was 5'11". So I pulled out my driver's license and my driver's license has said 6'1", all my life that I've been 6'1". She measured me, I'm 6'2". On my pilot's license, which I never look at my pilot's information, it's 6'2". I've been 6'2 and didn't know it. So the point here is there's so many things that I tell people, don't believe everything you believe, and then you'll be really smart. So if you're always questioning what you believe, you always see there's a possibility there may be, even in business, a smarter way to make things happen, a smarter way to do things. And when I talk about the smarter way of doing things, you watch somebody who's deathly phobic
Starting point is 00:25:51 when I'm programming them, right? Are we wiring them? Here, they are not consciously saying to themselves, go ahead and sweat and increase your heartbeat, right? Think about that. So when somebody's deathly phobic, their heart rate can double. They literally get sweat on their palms and their forehead. If the human mind has the ability to do that in the negative, imagine what you can do in the positive when you can control it. So this is why I'm able to get up at, I've been up this morning. I started working at three o'clock, 3.30 this morning. And I will go till 9 or 10 o'clock tonight, and I'll rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat.
Starting point is 00:26:30 But I have a diet, and I have a mind and a thought process that enables me to do that. Wow. So you're pushing your physical limits with your mindset. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. For example, you might hear this, but technically I never say, I feel tired. I'll say, I'm tired. Or if you but technically I never say I feel tired. I'll say I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Or if you ever hear me say I feel tired, well, what I'm actually saying to myself is feelings can what? Feelings can change. So if I feel tired, it's only a feeling. So that means I can change that feeling. And stop and think about it. When you feel tired, what are the ways that you know you're tired? Most people don't know that. They're divided into separate ways. Have you ever gone so long without sleep, your eyes burn,
Starting point is 00:27:09 right? That's one level of tired. Have you ever gone so long, not quite so long, but your eyes aren't burned, but you just feel exhausted? That's another level of tired. So you have different stages of it. So for example, if you were like really exhausted right now, and we yelled and somebody said, there's a fire, there's a fire, there's a fire out there, your adrenaline would spike. You'd be rushing out of here and you probably would not be tied for the next four to 10 hours, depending on the severity of the fire. Agreed. Right? Yeah. If it's a traumatic incident. Absolutely. So that's all a what? A mind game. So my job is to show people how to play games with their mind instead of their mind playing games with them. I love that. One of the most
Starting point is 00:27:44 common fears might be the most common one, I believe, is public speaking. Yes, sir. Have you fixed anyone with that? Yeah. The thing with public speaking, it's all about me, me, me, me, me, me, me. The illustration I give people, I say, Sean, look, let's say you had a problem with public speaking and I put you in front of an arena with 10,000 empty seats. Could you speak? Well, if there's nobody watching you, it's no big deal. The moment people start coming in, what happens now? You start internalizing, is my hair okay?
Starting point is 00:28:10 What if I say something wrong? And it's all internal stuff. It's all internal stuff. And some of it is some things in your past and so forth, because a lot of it relates to maybe you don't think you're going to be good enough, you're going to make mistakes and so forth. But man, fear of speaking is just all internal crap.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Agreed. All internal crap. I used to have it. But as soon as you actually start speaking, it goes away. Yeah, yeah. And then once you start, you see a lot of times too that we're looking for validation. There's so many psychological things about public speaking. I think that's why it's so challenging for people because there's so many psychological
Starting point is 00:28:43 things tied to it. Am I going to be accepted? Am I worthy? Will you like me? Will you not like me? And I remember years ago I did a speaking engagement with Brian Tracy, right? You've heard of Brian Tracy. And Brian and I, we were talking, and he was saying this nicely to help me out, but he didn't realize how long I had been speaking.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And we were in a smaller group at the time. This was in Miami, and somebody walked out. And he kindly said, Gary, I don't know if that bothered you or not, but they may have something important that they had to do. They're not leaving because of you. Now, if I didn't have experience, what could I have thought? Oh, did I say something wrong? That person just left now.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And before you know it, you're trying to speak, but you're on this stupid dialogue about yourself again. But there's so much of that is psychological. Yeah. What do you think about people pleasers, people that try to please everyone? Yeah, you got some issues. I used to be one. Yeah, yeah, you got issues.
Starting point is 00:29:32 I still kind of like to be helpful and please people, but it just takes away so much energy. Yeah, there's a difference between helpful and pleasing, right? I used to have one person that said, you know, I used to work with him, like, Gary, how do I answer that? I don't want to be mean. Mean is a perception as long as you're not a jerk. You know, if I say kindly to you and you ask me something, I say kindly to you, hey, Sean, I really, I'm sorry, but I just really can't make that happen. And you walk away and you want to call me a jerk. That's okay. But I know in good faith and in good conscience that I was really kind to you. And when, when somebody is a people pleaser, there's a lot more, something way, way deeper as to why they're needing to please.
Starting point is 00:30:07 So when we're younger, basically there's several things that we want. We want to be appreciated. We want to be approved. And when we want to be approved and appreciated, we're always doing things and also approval, right? Appreciation and approval is important. So we're always doing things for approval. Now, when we're kids, we want that from our parents. As we get older, if we're not careful, we'll look for unhealthy ways to get approval.
Starting point is 00:30:33 We'll look for unhealthy ways to feel appreciated. And when we don't learn the distinction between what's healthy and unhealthy, we start keep doing these unhealthy things. And that's why some people constantly need to please people because maybe they didn't feel they got enough love and they need more attention. And that's their only way they know how to get attention. Right. Yeah. Looking back at it now, I think it was just me trying to fit in in school. And I was always trying to please people to make new friends. Right, right, right. You know, some childhood trauma. Yeah. I was a big introvert
Starting point is 00:31:00 growing up, so it was hard to make friends. Wow. Yeah, you've come a long way, man. Good for you. Yeah, you have. This is huge. Well done. Dude, it's been fun. Anything you want to promote? I know you got the book. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Well, the older book is Don't Let Others Rent Space in Your Head. But the mastermind is my fun stuff. I love to work with other high-end coaches and authors, entrepreneurs, and show them how to really take a cool jet mastermind and take their business to another level. A lot of these coaches are charging only like maybe $10,000 for their work when they can do it so much smarter and so much better and charge a lot more and have a lot more fun doing it. But try to have a lot of fun doing this. You and I know as an entrepreneur, it's not the easiest thing in the world. And I try to do as much as I can to get as much fun
Starting point is 00:31:42 out of it as possible. Agreed. I love it. We'll link the mastermind below. Thanks for coming on. I appreciate that. Sean, thank you, bro. Appreciate you. Thanks for watching, guys. And see you next time. Peace.

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