Digital Social Hour - Avoid This Business Blunder: Mentor Mistakes That Cost Millions! | Gary Coxe DSH #590
Episode Date: August 1, 2024🔴 Avoid This Business Blunder: Mentor Mistakes That Cost Millions! 🚨 Tune in now to the latest episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! In this eye-opening conversation, we're jo...ined by the incredible Gary Coxe who’s flown in on his private jet to share his game-changing insights on mentorship, business mastery, and the shocking traps that could cost you millions! ✈️💼 Gary dives deep into the crucial mistakes entrepreneurs make when choosing mentors and how aligning with the wrong values can lead to disastrous outcomes. From jet masterminds at luxurious Sandals Resorts 🏝️ to overcoming a cult's mind control, Gary’s journey is nothing short of extraordinary. He reveals the secrets to breaking free from limiting beliefs and achieving exponential growth without burning out. Don’t miss out on these invaluable lessons: - How to select the right mentor for your business. - The art of leveraging high-end networking. - Transformative mindset shifts for skyrocketing success. - Real stories of overcoming massive debt and personal challenges. Join the conversation and watch now for insider secrets that can pivot your business to new heights! 📈✨ 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 #DigitalSocialHour #SeanKelly #Podcast #Mentorship #BusinessBlunders #GaryCoxe #Entrepreneurship #MindsetMastery #BusinessSuccess #WatchNow #SeanKellyPodcast #SuccessMindset #BusinessGrowth #MentorSuccess #MentorAdvice CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:39 - Gary Coxe on the Jet 04:46 - How to Find a Mentor 08:21 - Gary Coxe Joins a Cult 11:57 - Overcome ANY Fear in 30 Minutes 16:00 - Change Your Story and BELIEVE It 17:30 - Why You Don’t Want to Be a Billionaire 20:00 - Why JT Became a Pilot 21:40 - UFOs 23:59 - JT’s Cult Experience 27:43 - Overcoming the Fear of Public Speaking 29:24 - People Pleasing 31:07 - What Gary is Up to Now 31:48 - Sean Outro APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com GUEST: Gary Coxe https://www.instagram.com/garycoxe https://garycoxe.com/ https://beyondfirstclasswithgary.com/jv https://incontrolofmymind.com/ SPONSORS: Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Okay, number one, have enough common sense that making sure that when you take the advice from that person, that their values and beliefs match with yours.
Those that don't, throw them out.
Those that do, keep them.
Right.
I love that because people just have one mentor, but I have many in different verticals.
So I have a health one.
I have a spiritual one.
I have a business one.
Nice.
The problem when you listen to just the business one is it's just going to be money, money, money.
Right.
So people get lost in that.
A hundred percent.
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All right, guys, we got Gary Cox here. He came in on the jet. Thanks for coming, man. I did. I did.
Thanks for having me. I'm honored, man. You and i did oh bro you and i've been communicating for
literally like you said years right years and i know you recently i think went to miami and i
didn't make it because i was in florida so but yeah we're here now so looking forward to this
absolutely man what you've been up to lately uh not too much just doing a lot of my you know our
jet mastermind programs and um decided to you know programs and decided to probably took about maybe five years
to kind of slow down and chill a little bit.
So I'm back on.
So that means I'm going to do a lot more speaking engagements on stage.
So I'm looking forward to that.
I missed that.
I've done probably over 3,000 speaking engagements.
So slow down a little bit.
So I'm ready to rock and roll and get things back up
and get the Jet lit up and hit some more masterminds. And I guess you know this, our sponsor is Sandals Resort.
So that's where we take all of our clients for the masterminds in the Bahamas. So it's not a bad gig.
Yeah, that's a top tier resort, man. Yeah, it is. Yeah. What goes down on a jet mastermind?
Well, what we do is we show other coaches how to create their own masterminds and be able to do it. Many times,
a lot of people think, how do you do a jet? And it's a lot of money. There's so many ways to
massage this where you can use your client's money to put all this together. And then we also show
people how to really take their business to another level. Most people don't travel in a
private jet or get to do it regularly. And when you experience something like that, you realize
that, wait a minute, there's another way to live.
And it gets you to figure out
what's the next chess piece
that I need to move in the business
to make this happen.
And a lot of times it's not extra work.
It's just doing something a little smarter.
You know, just one more little tiny piece
to make the difference.
And that's what we give the people the exposure to.
And it's a full day.
You know, we do everything from the police escort,
the police shuts down the traffic for them.
We just want them to see an incredible experience
and they remember it for a lifetime.
And more and more importantly,
they take the content that they learn from it
and they use that and they implement it
and then they get the results.
I love that.
Once you go private, it's hard to go back.
Man, it really is.
We have a saying with regards to a necessity.
How's it go again?
When I remember it, I'll throw it at you.
But I know a luxury sampled once becomes a necessity.
So once you taste it, you can't go back.
It's really difficult.
Absolutely.
Same with cars too.
Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
So you're in Miami right now?
No, we're in central Florida between Tampa and Orlando.
Oh, nice.
And these masterminds are all over?
Well, typically we do the masterminds at Sandals Resorts in the Bahamas.
So what we'll do is most people will come and meet in central Florida, come meet me there.
And then we leave early in the morning and go out and come back late that night.
Masterminds are also another game changer, man.
No, they are because what it does is it gets you, and you know this better than anybody,
your proximity is your power, your network is your net worth.
And when you hang around people that are regularly talking about,
yeah, we did this and it made us a half a million dollars,
or we did this and it made us 20 grand,
and when you're not around that, it seems to be so foreign to you.
But when you're around it consistently, you recognize that,
wait a minute, if I'm not doing it, there's ways to do this.
And the mastermind gets you, we limit it to about eight people. So it's very intimate.
You know, great big seminars have their strengths as well. But there's also, I remember when I was
younger, I used to think, well, you know, I would love the opportunity to hang with this person,
like hang with a Sean. How do I get to hang with you and pick your brain? And that's where this
concept came up with. So it gives people the opportunity to spend an intimate time with
somebody like myself. And then basically I can answer whatever questions they have for their
business. So I do a lot of, as you know, the TV shows. And so we'll talk about that. But I try to
give them as much content that they can use and do something with right away that they can turn
some type of a profit or make a big shift in their company. And I was very blessed also when I was younger, Sean, I was mentored by two
millionaires and later a billionaire. And I learned so much from incredibly, incredibly successful
people, even though I personally have no desire to be a billionaire. We can talk about that later.
Maybe, I don't know. But I do want to learn a lot from them where I can either implement it for
myself or share it with other people.
Yeah, mentorship is crucial.
So talk to me how you got that first one because people struggle finding that first one.
You know, it was actually quite interesting that you asked that.
When I was 16, I had started my second business at 15.
So when I was 16, I was able to drive.
And then I saw this really cool office plaza, and I wanted to start my own wholesale jewelry manufacturing and repairing, and that's what I used to do.
I repaired Gordon's Jewelers and Zales and JCPenney's and all that stuff as a young kid.
And I saw this office building, and I thought, I can't afford that.
But you know what?
I'm going to try it.
I knocked on the guy's door, the landlord who owned it, millionaire, and he said, let's see.
Let me look at this with you.
And I didn't have a lot of money at that time. And he offered me a spot for rent. We became very
good friends and he became my millionaire mentor. And there's things in my brain to this very day.
This was when I was a teenager. There's things in my brain to this very day that I use to control and do and change in my business.
One of them is the smart person believes half of what they hear.
The intelligent person knows which half to believe.
You don't believe everything you hear.
So I'm one that's always questioning things because too many times people are very robotic.
I see a lot of people, they'll take a mentor. And if you're not careful,
what happens is if you don't use a lot of common sense, you will place a higher status on somebody
in your mind, higher than they should be. And because of that, you will listen to everything
they say. And that's called being programmed. And when you are able to determine, wait a minute,
what that person's saying makes sense.
Like I'll have my billionaire mentor
when he was alive,
he would give me advice
and some of it I would take
and some of it I wouldn't.
You got to have enough common sense
because everybody's values
and beliefs are different.
You know, people say,
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guys. You'll see somebody that makes more money than you do. So the tendency is to go, what,
listen to them, which is not necessarily a bad thing. It's like going to the gym. You see the
guy who's really, really big. The first thing we want to do if we want to build muscle is go to who? Go to the really, really big guy. So he says,
well, you lift the weight this way and then you do it this way. But he didn't tell you he's also
working out seven days a week. He doesn't have a relationship anymore because his wife can't
handle him anymore because he's on steroids and that's how he got so big so quick. So all these
different things that you don't take into consideration. And so when it comes to finding
the right mentor, it's important to figure out, okay, number one, have enough common sense
that making sure that when you take the advice from that person, that their values and beliefs
match with yours. Those that don't, throw them out. Those that do, keep them.
Right. I love that because people just have one mentor, but I have many in different verticals.
So I have a health one, I have a spiritual one, I have a business one.
Nice.
The problem when you listen to just the business one is it's just going to be money,
money, money. So people get lost in that. A hundred percent. And I think that's why it's
so important that people get of the mindset to have the exposure of different kinds of people
like you do. And sometimes you can have two coaches in the same venue sometimes or the same
folder because you're getting different perceptions. And that's what I call UCS, use common sense. That's where by using
common sense, you can determine, okay, that fits my model, that fits my thinking, that fits my
values and beliefs. Okay, I'm going to take that, this one I don't like, and then make your own
decisions. Absolutely. So you mentioned being programmed earlier. I think that's a good segue into the cult stuff. Yeah. So how long were you part of that?
I was in the cult into my 40s, man.
Holy.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That's all I knew.
I'm talking.
In fact, Sean, it was so crazy when I left, right?
I didn't even know what.
I'm literally like, if I wanted to, I could cry right now.
I'm not kidding you.
Wow.
When I left, I would not even know what day of the week it was.
I did this for nearly six months. I would have to look at the calendar to figure out what day
of the week it was. Why is that? The reason being is you're so conditioned to do every day you do
this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this every single day for 40 years. And then all
of a sudden I decide, you know what? I'm gone. I'm out. And everything is so conditioned on every single day that you do this, this, and that.
And I don't have that routine anymore.
And man, it was the most unusual thing ever to literally have to look at the calendar
for nearly six months to get to the point where I could realize what frigging day of
the week it was.
So they don't have a calendar when you're in there?
No, they do.
But the thing is, I'm so used to doing Sunday this, it's Monday this, it's Tuesday this, Wednesday this. And then all of a sudden you don't have a calendar when you're in there? No, they do. But the thing is, I'm so used to doing Sunday this,
it's Monday this, it's Tuesday this, Wednesday this.
And then all of a sudden you don't have that anymore.
That routine is gone.
So I literally could not figure out what day of the week it was.
That's crazy.
Were you allowed to pursue any business when you were a part of that?
I was, but it was very limited.
Every time I would be on TV,
and I'm laughing because one of your guys on the team
knows exactly what I'm talking about.
Every time I'd get on TV, that's causing too much attention to myself.
So the people in the cult, if they saw me on TV, they'd go to the superiors and they would pull me in the back and say, you know, you shouldn't be bringing so much attention.
It was ridiculous.
So, yeah, it definitely stunted my financial growth financially like you would not believe and i still have ripple effects that
i have to work on because you're so programmed in that to believe that if you're if things are
really hard ah that's a sign that you're doing well wow so what will happen is when i'm doing
really well is then i'll figure out something to take it to the next level but take more risks than
i probably should and granted it's gotten to me where i've gotten but it's a little more than i need to because i'm so used to having things hard all the time and
struggling so it's a pattern i have to constantly work on breaking and it was probably tough to get
out because your family and your friends were in it so that was all you knew yeah um that's that's
that's the i think i've been through everything from you know my father was murdered when i was
17 my wife and i we had a. She tells me it's not mine.
I mean, a lot of crap by the time I was 21.
That's a cakewalk compared to leaving this cult.
Because like you said,
all your so-called friends and family,
they'll shun you for life.
I've spoken to my mother once in what, 15 some odd years.
And now it's like me taking Sean and say,
Sean, I'm going to pick you up.
I'm going to put you in a third world country.
You don't know where you're going to be.
I'm just going to drop you there.
And by the way, all the people that you've known
all your life, they'll never talk to you again.
Start all over.
Wow.
And that's tough.
I didn't realize how difficult it was.
It put me $350,000 in debt.
Dang.
Nearly overnight.
Holy crap.
I remember borrowing $75,000 on a credit card
because I was not able to function mentally enough to keep the business going.
And I never thought it would be that difficult.
I wish I had planned it a lot better.
Man, that's a big amount of debt.
How long did it take you to get out of that?
It took me a couple years.
I actually went on the road for three years and three months living in hotels, selling my books and my programs all over the country.
Holy crap.
So you had to sell books and programs just to get out of that.
Yeah.
Man.
3,000.
Three years.
You must have been so stressed.
Yeah.
I did 600 presentations in those three years.
Holy crap.
And you were selling mindset training?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to dive into that because you're able to help people overcome limits, phobias in
30 minutes.
Yeah, I did.
I was very blessed to do
a three-year run on Dr. Phil's show, The Doctors. So I think what's helped me, Sean, is because
I've been through so much pain and so many challenges in my life, I'm able to feel the pain
of what other people have been through. And then I remember when I was going through trying to
get over a lot of this, what were the practical things that I did that I could share with somebody else
that would help them get from point A to point B?
Not this, you know, you're great, you're wonderful,
you know, it'll be all better.
Well, yeah, great, but whatever.
But when you go through all this stuff
and your emotional hard drive is full of emotional pain,
you know, what happens is,
is every time you do something
that doesn't work in your favor,
if you're not careful,
you'll reflect on all the other pains you've had in the last 10, 20 years of your life.
And if you don't have specific strategies to circumnavigate that, you're not going to get
better or remove that very, very quickly. And one of the examples I give, Sean, is that when we're
born, we're programmed to be a slave to our feelings, right? When you're born, you cry.
You're just constantly programmed to be a slave to our feelings. So what I encourage people to do is you have to learn to lead your feelings, not be a slave
of them.
So every time you have a negative emotion or any emotion for that matter, positive or
negative, you'll do one or two things.
You'll either ignore it or you'll reward it.
And you stop and think about every single emotion that you have all day long, subconsciously,
you're either ignoring it or rewarding it. And when you're consciously aware of that, you're then able to intercept and stop it if it's not going in your favor.
And it becomes very, very powerful.
So I've been able to develop a very fast way of getting people to rewire their thinking.
In fact, when I do it on stage, it's kind of cool.
I'll bring somebody who's deathly phobic of a snake, for example,
and I'll find the worst, most phobic person I can in that room, bring them on stage.
They're crying, fetal position, the whole nine yards, and then I'll show them.
I'm going to share with them.
A lot of times as business people, we tell people to make a quantum leap in their life or in their business, and to make a quantum leap is to have the ability to move when you're not ready.
Most people are looking for ways to be ready to have the ability to move when you're not ready. Most people are looking for
ways to be ready to make the move. So what I share with the audience, I'll ask them, how many of you
here in the audience are willing to make a quantum leap today? And of course, what does everybody do?
Put their hand up. But when you see and realize that, hey, wait a minute, a quantum leap is making
a move when you're not ready. Let me demonstrate that. So then I bring this person on stage who's
like literally in tears. And when I'm done, they're without hypnosis holding a 10-foot snake and everybody's like
freaking out and they're watching the process so i teach them the process as i'm doing it so they
understand it so when you walk away from the event you know steps that you can use to implement to
get things done faster that is impressive yeah it's very cool it's very very cool a lot of fun so on the tv shows that's what i do i do it and just in a very fast
concentrated level it's a little tougher sometimes because if it's a live to tape show you know
they'll bring me on talk about what the problem is bring me and the person backstage and they'll
have the show running during the rest and i gotta get the person done by the time they finish the
next segment so you got one try one one shot but uh it's been it's been pretty some people go to therapy for decades trying to fix their fears
i i'm the person typically they'll come to like when they bring me the people on the show they
bring me people who have been to therapy for 10 or 20 years yeah so that's the typical and if i
feel that i can't reverse that in one session i don't take them on interesting it was always too
i tried it was too slow for me it's ridiculous and. And look at the model. I'm not dissing these people or
anything like that, but the model is I would want 20 of you every week for the rest of your life,
right? But I can't sleep at night. I want to be challenged and say, wait a minute, I want you
once. Let me see what I can do with you and knock this out one time. It's a hard business model,
right? But I sleep better at night.
Yeah, they want you as long as you can.
Rather than yourself, you want them in and out within an hour.
Right.
Now, if it's a business thing, it's a little different, right?
Because that's something you can constantly mold and tweak and so on.
You can work with a business client for years as a mentor or as an advisor.
But on something like that, psychologically, no, it doesn't take that long.
What have you seen with negative mindsets?
Because my dad, specifically, very pessimistic, growing up, kind of rubbed off on me.
Is that something you could fix pretty quick?
Well, yes and no.
A lot of that, as you can understand from your background, is very, very ingrained.
But what I like to tell people when it comes to their mindset, what's the difference really between a negative thought and a positive thought?
And the difference is the outcome in your mind. So stop and think about it. If you're thinking about something negative,
what about it is negative? Well, what would be the outcome on this thought? And then that's how
you determine really what a negative and positive thought is. So you just can't say, I can't,
and then say you can, and then now you're a positive person. Because if I say, I can't,
I can't, I can't, and you say, but Gary, say you can. Well,
now I say, I can, I can, I can. I can say, I can, I can, I can, until I'm blue in the face,
but I still don't believe it. And if I don't believe I can, then I still can't. So you'll
hear people say, change your story, change your life. That's not true, because you can just change
your story that does not change your life. Changing your story, then believing your story,
that will change your life. So now you focus on the belief of the new story, not change your life. Changing your story, then believing your story, that will
change your life. So now you focus on the belief of the new story, not just the story.
So how can you frame your mind to start believing?
That is the million-dollar question. The reason being is because every situation is different.
Every approach is different. So if I had 10 people with the exact same problem, I'll have probably
maybe 10 different approaches, depending on their mentality, depending on their background and so forth.
You mentioned earlier you didn't want to become a billionaire.
Correct.
How come?
I'm not willing to pay the price.
I don't want to pay the price.
I have some lovely friends who are billionaires and I just don't want to pay the price.
I don't need a billion dollars.
Right, because you're mentored by a billionaire, so you get a firsthand view of his life.
Oh, I know so much.
I mean, I love a lot of this stuff,
but it's just not for me.
I mean, I'm fine with 100 million.
I can live just as well on 100 million than a billion.
Yeah, I feel like there's no difference in lifestyle
from 100 to a billion.
No, not if you do it right.
And the thing is, there's always a price to pay. It's
like the guy in the gym, right? It's like the guy in the gym. He's really big. You want to pay the
price? How big do you want to get? I'm okay with maybe half the muscle. I don't know. And I say
this nothing against Warren Buffett, and it's public. Warren Buffett, he's a billionaire,
and he's had a mistress for decades. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. But why?
Because he's traveling all the time.
His wife don't want to be with him, and he's still married.
Wow.
Right?
So now I'm willing to listen.
Would you not listen to Warren Buffett's business advice?
You'd be foolish not to.
But there's a lot of things I may not want to listen to because it may not agree with
my values and beliefs.
And maybe it will.
Then if it does, great.
So this is where I get people to think, wait a minute, let's go a little deeper.
And I tell people, don't just listen to everything I got to say, because maybe I got something to say. It might be right, but it might not be according to your values and beliefs. So
then you probably shouldn't do it. Because that's why when I'm coaching somebody or mentoring
somebody, I'll say, Sean, here's my suggestion to you. Do you buy into it? And I give you the
opportunity to say no, because I don't want you to be a yes man. Now, say no i'll tell you sean i think that's pretty stupid or i'll say sean i totally
agree with you let's go ahead and look at this what about this because why would i force you
to do something that's against your value and beliefs i love that it doesn't make any sense
unless your value and beliefs are something that's not in harmony with your goal and needs to be
changed that's a different story yeah i'm not a fan of yes man man yeah i don't do it i don't like people i don't do when people aren't their authentic selves i could i
could sense it within a minute yeah for real yeah it's not cool man all those yes men out there stop
doing that shit man because exit they're trying to please but they don't realize that some people
don't like that right you know just be honest and you know what's interesting when you're not a yes
man you attract people that don't need that but if when you're a yes man and you're always in the yes, then you attract people that always want that.
I would rather not be that yes man and also let people know that work with me.
I don't want that because I want your honest opinion.
I don't have so much ego where I'm not willing to hear your opinion about something.
Right.
What made you want to become a pilot?
Because I know your uncle actually passed away in a pilot crash, right?
He did. He did. In fact, that was the death of my pilot's license for a while, pun intended, I guess, because I started flying very early.
And then when he crashed, I was still living at home and I go to the airport to take my next lesson.
My instructor says, your mom just called and you're done, bro.
Damn.
I go, what the what? So I had to wait till I got out of the house and blah, blah, blah.
But yeah, no, I'm addicted to it, man. It's just an amazing thing.
I love it.
I fly helicopters, jets, single engines.
I've owned helicopters and airplanes forever.
But for me, it's a great way to keep the brain going.
It's a great lifestyle, and I've been able to incorporate that into my jet mastermind retreats.
Yeah, that's brilliant.
It's a lot of fun.
And you just trained Dan Henry.
Yeah, no, Dan and I, we've been friends for a little while now,
and he's been doing some flying.
And as you know, as you mentioned, we came over here in the jet,
so that was a lot of fun.
But it just raises your game, that's for sure.
But the lifestyle, nothing like it, man.
That's a long route in a jet from Florida.
Yeah, no, it was a was full day yeah wow florida i did you know i mean i don't get heard that often but i realized
that wait a minute crap that you're like right on the california border man yeah it's a five
hour flight yeah it's it's east to west and the jets can't fly as fast as commercial right
no it depends on the jet in fact what was so cool um we were at 34 000 feet coming over here
and then on the radio they're calling out hey you know we've got a jet a thousand feet above you it In fact, what was so cool, we were at 34,000 feet coming over here,
and then on the radio, they're calling out,
hey, we've got a jet 1,000 feet above you with Spirit Air,
and you could just see him right above it.
It was so cool.
So yeah, we're up there with the airliners.
Damn.
Oh, yeah.
That's pretty close.
Oh, yeah, it's very close.
I'd be a little nervous.
No, it's slick, man.
I mean, you could see him just like shoot.
So cool.
So cool.
You see any UFOs up there?
No, but I've definitely seen meters and stuff like that.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, it's awesome.
Meteors.
One day, it was at night, obviously.
I guess, obviously, I've never seen one in a day.
So it was at nighttime.
We're flying over the Gulf.
And it was like this massive green and purple. And it was so huge that everybody on the radio,
on the pilot's radio, were talking.
Did you see that? We saw it
for miles and miles. Wow. And that landed on
Earth? Yeah, I'd imagine so. I don't know
if it completely dissipated before it got there,
but it was massive. It was huge.
It was so big that everybody,
and you just don't talk on the radios unless
you're acknowledged or you have a question,
but people were just like, shh, and that's just unheard of damn that's fascinating and then one time we came back
from the bahamas from our mastermind and then we saw spacex go up at night that was freaking cool
i saw starlink once in the hot tub that was isn't that cool really cool i thought it was ufo right
right right yeah i've never but i know i've heard of other pilots doing it but i've never but the
meteorite stuff i've seen how far does the radio go? Can you communicate with planes?
Oh, hundreds of miles.
Really?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Depending on how high you are.
Oh, absolutely.
Wow.
So pilots are just chatting it up up there?
Well, it's more organized than that.
It's valuable real estate, so you don't want to overdo it.
Wow.
That's cool.
What has been your favorite places to fly to?
I like the Berry Islands.
It's my little private little island.
Berry Islands. The Berry Islands. I haven't heard of them. In the Bahamas. Okay. I got to get out there, man. No Islands. It's my little private little island.
The Berry Islands.
I haven't heard of them. In the Bahamas.
Okay.
I got to get out there, man.
No, you don't.
Keep it that way.
It's very quiet.
We don't like anybody out there.
All right.
I'll set you up.
I'll fly you out there with me.
No, it's a private island.
You go out there for a weekend.
It's a seven-mile beach part of it,
and you might be good to see five people for the whole weekend.
It's the best. How do you eat food and stuff man you ask good questions you gotta you gotta fly it in sometimes oh because there's
a boat that comes in once a week and if the boat doesn't come in because of weather then everybody's
you know out on starving there's like two little um two little grocery stores one bar and uh that's
it wow yeah it's a lovely little island but it's getting a little bit more populated now a lot more two little grocery stores, one bar, and that's it. Wow.
It's a lovely little island,
but it's getting a little bit more populated now.
People are catching on.
People are fleeing the country.
It's a pretty crazy time right now.
This election is going to be pretty pivotal, I think.
Oh, man, it's going to be nuts.
It's going to be nuts.
I try to stay out of it.
I'm with you.
So now that you brought it up,
I guess some people get pissed off or not.
I've never voted in my life.
Really?
Okay.
Because that's part of the cult thing. And I love that because I can say the present president, I can say something about him is really good and this part about him is really stupid.
And the other people, that part's pretty good and that part's pretty stupid.
I love just being in the middle of however I want to be.
I didn't know people in cults couldn't vote.
That's interesting.
No, you can't.
Oh, no.
Well, not this cult.
Oh, no.
Wow.
No, no.
How many people were with you?
Was this like a bigger one?
Yeah, 7 million total.
Holy shit.
7 million people?
Dude, you know what I found out about this stuff, Sean?
Smart people can do really stupid things.
I'm not the dumbest person in the world,
but I was in there doing stupid things and really stupid things. You know, I'm not the dumbest person in the world, but I was in there doing stupid things and thinking stupid things. You know, I mean, it's, and it just,
it shows how easy we can be programmed. I mean, it's great. Like, I'll give you an example.
I remember dating this girl after I left the call, right? I remember dating this girl and she's a
tall girl. She said to me, how tall are you? I go, I'm 6'1". She said, you can't be 6'1". What
do you mean I can't be? I'm 6'1". So she's really acute to that because she was 5'11". So I pulled
out my driver's license and my driver's license has said 6'1", all my life that I've been 6'1".
She measured me, I'm 6'2". On my pilot's license, which I never look at my pilot's information, it's 6'2". I've been
6'2 and didn't know it. So the point here is there's so many things that I tell people,
don't believe everything you believe, and then you'll be really smart. So if you're always
questioning what you believe, you always see there's a possibility there may be, even in
business, a smarter way to make things happen, a smarter way to do things.
And when I talk about the smarter way of doing things, you watch somebody who's deathly phobic
when I'm programming them, right? Are we wiring them? Here, they are not consciously saying to
themselves, go ahead and sweat and increase your heartbeat, right? Think about that.
So when somebody's deathly phobic, their heart rate can double.
They literally get sweat on their palms and their forehead. If the human mind has the ability to do
that in the negative, imagine what you can do in the positive when you can control it.
So this is why I'm able to get up at, I've been up this morning. I started working at three o'clock,
3.30 this morning.
And I will go till 9 or 10 o'clock tonight, and I'll rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat.
But I have a diet, and I have a mind and a thought process that enables me to do that.
Wow.
So you're pushing your physical limits with your mindset.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
For example, you might hear this, but technically I never say, I feel tired.
I'll say, I'm tired. Or if you but technically I never say I feel tired. I'll say I'm tired.
Or if you ever hear me say I feel tired, well, what I'm actually saying to myself is feelings can what?
Feelings can change.
So if I feel tired, it's only a feeling.
So that means I can change that feeling.
And stop and think about it.
When you feel tired, what are the ways that you know you're tired?
Most people don't know that.
They're divided into separate ways. Have you ever gone so long without sleep, your eyes burn,
right? That's one level of tired. Have you ever gone so long, not quite so long, but your
eyes aren't burned, but you just feel exhausted? That's another level of tired. So you have
different stages of it. So for example, if you were like really exhausted right now,
and we yelled and somebody said, there's a fire, there's a fire, there's a fire out there, your adrenaline would spike.
You'd be rushing out of here and you probably would not be tied for the next four to 10 hours,
depending on the severity of the fire. Agreed. Right? Yeah. If it's a traumatic incident.
Absolutely. So that's all a what? A mind game. So my job is to show people how to play games
with their mind instead of their mind playing games with them. I love that. One of the most
common fears might be the most common one, I believe,
is public speaking. Yes, sir.
Have you fixed anyone with that? Yeah. The thing with public speaking,
it's all about me, me, me, me, me, me, me. The illustration I give people, I say, Sean, look,
let's say you had a problem with public speaking and I put you in front of an arena with 10,000
empty seats. Could you speak? Well, if there's nobody watching you, it's no big deal. The moment
people start coming in, what happens now?
You start internalizing, is my hair okay?
What if I say something wrong?
And it's all internal
stuff. It's all internal stuff.
And some of it is
some things in your past and so forth,
because a lot of it relates to maybe you don't think you're going to
be good enough, you're going to make mistakes and so forth.
But man, fear of speaking is just all internal crap.
Agreed.
All internal crap.
I used to have it.
But as soon as you actually start speaking, it goes away.
Yeah, yeah.
And then once you start, you see a lot of times too that we're looking for validation.
There's so many psychological things about public speaking.
I think that's why it's so challenging for people because there's so many psychological
things tied to it.
Am I going to be accepted?
Am I worthy?
Will you like me?
Will you not like me?
And I remember years ago I did a speaking engagement with Brian Tracy, right?
You've heard of Brian Tracy.
And Brian and I, we were talking, and he was saying this nicely to help me out, but he didn't realize how long I had been speaking.
And we were in a smaller group at the time.
This was in Miami, and somebody walked out.
And he kindly said, Gary, I don't know if that bothered you or not, but they may have
something important that they had to do.
They're not leaving because of you.
Now, if I didn't have experience, what could I have thought?
Oh, did I say something wrong?
That person just left now.
And before you know it, you're trying to speak, but you're on this stupid dialogue about yourself
again.
But there's so much of that is psychological.
Yeah.
What do you think about people pleasers, people that try to please everyone?
Yeah, you got some issues.
I used to be one.
Yeah, yeah, you got issues.
I still kind of like to be helpful and please people, but it just takes away so much energy.
Yeah, there's a difference between helpful and pleasing, right? I used to have one person that
said, you know, I used to work with him, like, Gary, how do I answer that? I don't want to be
mean. Mean is a perception as long as you're not a jerk. You know, if I say
kindly to you and you ask me something, I say kindly to you, hey, Sean, I really, I'm sorry,
but I just really can't make that happen. And you walk away and you want to call me a jerk.
That's okay. But I know in good faith and in good conscience that I was really kind to you.
And when, when somebody is a people pleaser, there's a lot more, something way, way deeper as to why they're needing to please.
So when we're younger, basically there's several things that we want.
We want to be appreciated.
We want to be approved.
And when we want to be approved and appreciated, we're always doing things and also approval, right?
Appreciation and approval is important.
So we're always doing things for approval.
Now, when we're kids, we want that from our parents.
As we get older, if we're not careful, we'll look for unhealthy ways to get approval.
We'll look for unhealthy ways to feel appreciated.
And when we don't learn the distinction between what's healthy and unhealthy,
we start keep doing these unhealthy things.
And that's why some people constantly need
to please people because maybe they didn't feel they got enough love and they need more attention.
And that's their only way they know how to get attention. Right. Yeah. Looking back at it now,
I think it was just me trying to fit in in school. And I was always trying to please people to make
new friends. Right, right, right. You know, some childhood trauma. Yeah. I was a big introvert
growing up, so it was hard to make friends. Wow. Yeah, you've come a long way, man. Good for you.
Yeah, you have.
This is huge.
Well done.
Dude, it's been fun.
Anything you want to promote?
I know you got the book.
Yeah, no.
Well, the older book is Don't Let Others Rent Space in Your Head.
But the mastermind is my fun stuff.
I love to work with other high-end coaches and authors, entrepreneurs,
and show them how to really take a cool jet mastermind
and take their business to another level. A lot of these coaches are charging only like maybe $10,000 for their
work when they can do it so much smarter and so much better and charge a lot more and have a lot
more fun doing it. But try to have a lot of fun doing this. You and I know as an entrepreneur,
it's not the easiest thing in the world. And I try to do as much as I can to get as much fun
out of it as possible. Agreed. I love it. We'll link the mastermind below.
Thanks for coming on.
I appreciate that.
Sean, thank you, bro.
Appreciate you.
Thanks for watching, guys.
And see you next time.
Peace.