Digital Social Hour - Biohacking 101: Reverse Aging & Boost Mental Clarity | Mark Gordon DSH #1158

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

Unlock the secrets to reversing aging and achieving peak mental clarity with Digital Social Hour! Join Sean Kelly as he dives deep into the world of biohacking with health expert Mark Gordon. From the... groundbreaking role of peptides in brain recovery to the surprising connection between inflammation and hormone production, this episode is packed with valuable insights you can't afford to miss.  Discover how brain health impacts your body, the hidden dangers of chronic inflammation, and actionable tips to optimize your hormones naturally. Mark Gordon shares inspiring stories of recovery, cutting-edge research, and his passion for helping veterans heal from traumatic brain injuries. This is your ultimate guide to Biohacking 101! Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. Hit that subscribe button and join the conversation to stay ahead in the world of health and wellness! Don’t miss out—your journey to a healthier, sharper you starts here.  #peptides #biohackingtips #orthobiologics #functionalmedicine #hormoneguru #brainfog #biohackingtips #achievepeakperformance #agereversalstudy #selfimprovement CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:15 - Inflammation and Hormone Production 04:16 - Causes of Depression 07:00 - Inflammation Duration and Recovery 08:13 - Brain Rescue Techniques 10:57 - Inflammation as Disease Root Cause 12:18 - Understanding PTSD 17:58 - Clomid Overview 20:10 - Testosterone Insights 22:51 - Head Trauma Mechanisms 23:55 - Cellular Mechanotransduction Explained 27:50 - Inflammation Post-Surgery 28:38 - Impact of Heavy Metals on Hormones 33:48 - Parasites and Health 37:08 - Stem Cells in Medicine 44:24 - Health Perspectives in China 49:28 - Brain Rescue Techniques Part 1 50:02 - Reversing Alzheimer’s Disease 55:20 - Inflammation and Autism Link 57:15 - Finding Mark’s Products APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Mark Gordon https://www.instagram.com/drmarkgordon SPONSORS: Specialized Recruiting Group: https://www.srgpros.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/

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Starting point is 00:01:08 which is why we see a lot of psychiatric, psychological, functional problems in people who are exposed to mold Wow It's a real, real issue Alright guys, Mark Gordon here today Got em him in Vegas. Thanks for coming on man. Hey, love it. What's new in your world? Let's see, besides my third daughter having a baby girl with a full head of hair that makes me a little jealous because I'm losing mine, the kids growing hers. Beyond that, nothing more than just doing the very best for our military in our work with
Starting point is 00:01:45 traumatic brain injury and PTSD for them. That's really the key. That's my heart and soul. Anything new progressing in that space? Well, with some of the peptides that we have, we can accelerate the healing of the brain. With some of the peptides, ARA290, NSEAL C-max, Cerebral Glycine, just to accelerate the process for them getting back in line to be, you know, back into life. I love it. What's the deal with peptides? Because I saw some articles that they got banned in certain states. Yeah, it's the FDA is banning it in some of the states in the internal pharmaceutical guidelines in every state, stating that certain things can and cannot be made or cannot be imported.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I mean, in California, where I am half the time, in the half time in Texas, I can't import our blended testosterone that's manufactured in Texas into California. Wow. They restrict it. So there are a lot of peptides that both from the FDA and from the state pharmaceutical boards are restricting peptides that have incredible benefits. People with MS or people with Alzheimer's or dementia, certain of these peptides can help regenerate the nervous system. One of them that I use a lot is C-Max, which stimulates a chemical in the brain that actually tells the brain's cells to improve its brain derived neurotrophic factor. Also as a side effect it drops inflammation and the world that I work in with traumatic brain injury it's the inflammation that causes a shutdown
Starting point is 00:03:17 in a lot of the chemical processes in the brain. So if you have inflammation it shuts off your brain's ability to tell the pituitary, the master gland, from making testosterone or making DHA or thyroid or, you know, from the signal, the cascade for stereogenesis. That's crazy. I didn't know there was a link because a lot of people have low testosterone right now. Oh yeah. And this is a paper that I just came out with, which is a Clomophon paper, which incorporates some of the key factors that are being missed. Two of the key factors that are being missed is
Starting point is 00:03:47 this relationship between inflammation and shutting down hormone production. The article started coming out in 2013 and just had built in the number of articles, so they're substantiating each other. And then in 2018 at a Denmark of all places, came a group of articles or a article that started it that said that if we're using things like ibuprofen or Naprosyn, which are called nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medication, probably one of the most commonly used anti-inflammatory
Starting point is 00:04:17 over the counter, 200 milligrams, but my military people get 800 milligrams. And what we found or what was found in the literature and the research is that it shuts down both in females and males their ability to respond to a signal in the brain called luteinizing hormone to turn on testosterone production in a female and a male. So when a doctor or a healthcare provider has an opportunity
Starting point is 00:04:40 to do a blood test and find out that they're low testosterone, the knee jerk is usually to just put them on to testosterone instead of asking two questions. Have you had any head trauma? That's the inflammatory. Or have you ever used ibuprofen and naprosyn or any of the non-steroidal anti-inflammatories? And they don't ask that. And therefore what happens is you jump ahead and assume that they're testosterone deficient because of what genetics, because of age, but there's a causation. So everything that we do in our practice at the millennium is based on looking at
Starting point is 00:05:15 the foundational causes. Why does this happen? Why do people get depressed? And depression, you know, is not because your mother didn't suckle you or your Irish father didn't give you enough whiskey or whatever the situation might be. It really has to do with the biochemistry of the brain.
Starting point is 00:05:36 And we know that when there's trauma or an inflammation in the brain, that a chemical is produced, they call it peroxynitrite. And what it does is it stops the enzymes that are responsible for making serotonin, which is the anti-depression, and also melatonin, which helps you sleep. So in the group of military that we see, they...
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Starting point is 00:08:04 what we find are the patterns suggesting that there's inflammation. How do we know? Inflammation shuts off luteinizing hormone production. So if there's no luteinizing hormone, why is that? Well, it's at the pituitary dysfunction, you do an MRI of the pituitary, and it looks normal. So what's going on?
Starting point is 00:08:21 It's the chemical signals that are invisible to x-rays. There's no neuro-radio graphic process or x-ray that can be taken to the brain, MRI, CT, PET scan, that can show inflammatory chemistry. It shows structure. It can show blood flow. You can put a nuclear tracer, a radioisotope, hook it up and you can see patterns of blood flow or distribution of certain chemicals. But you can't see this inflammatory chemistry in the brain. That's what's missing. Yeah, will that inflammation go away over time naturally? Great question.
Starting point is 00:08:59 There are two forms of inflammation, acute. Like for instance, you get a cold. Your cold symptoms of inflammation acute, like for instance, you get a cold. Your cold symptoms of irritability, light sensitivity, sound sensitivity, irritability, you know, stay away from me, leave me in my bed. Body aches and pains are all due to inflammation that is generated because of the viral process or bacterial. And after a couple of days, it starts waning and you get better in a week or two. And after a couple of days, it starts waning and you get better in a week or two. But there's a chronic phase where the inflammation that started never abates, never reduces. So what can cause that?
Starting point is 00:09:33 And the people that we see in sports with chronic repetitive injury or CTE, what happens is there's always reoccurrence of the trauma to keep the process going for a long period of time. So the chronic state causes an increase, like a catch-22, an increase in the production of inflammatory chemical that leeches away at the brain, that starts destroying more areas of the brain because of the inflammation. So can you reverse that? Yes, you already experienced it. Right, it's brain rescue, I'm feeling it. Yeah, I'm feeling it. I always feel it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:12 We've got about 10,000 people a day who are feeling it and it's our core product for helping reduce the inflammation. It took 16 years to develop that. Before we released it, we did a study, which is called the Marine 2020 Study, Pilot Study, not pilot like airport, but baseline research or study. We took Marines from Camp Pendleton.
Starting point is 00:10:39 They were sent to us by the surgeon. Marines who were getting ready to be medically discharged for problems from being in the front line all the time, the first recon group. And we put them onto this product every morning for 90 days. Every 30 days they filled out a questionnaire with 18 questions on it. At the end of the 90 days, 65% of them were 50 to 100% better. People with migraines were better, people with anxiety were better,
Starting point is 00:11:07 depression had abated, libido had improved, their exercise tolerance had improved, and 90 days, and some of them, after that 90 day period, they never reverted to where they were before, because this has in it a combination of anti-inflammatory products like fish oil, DHA, very important as an anti-inflammatory in the brain, quercetin, what else? Gamma to call for, vitamin E, gamma, vitamin E which is very special in the brain, N-acetyl cysteine which went through testing with the government,
Starting point is 00:11:46 did studies out of Walter Reed showing the benefit of N-acyl cysteine, which is a natural product. That's the beauty. It's 100% natural. That's why I like it. Yeah. I try to be as natural as possible. Yeah. Healthy. You don't want the aberrant chemistry in our body. You know, I did a presentation from an organization, and the title of the article, the presentation, 17 minutes was in search of the Prozac gland. Where's your
Starting point is 00:12:11 Prozac gland? Couldn't tell you. Where's mine? Where's your Bilify gland? Where's your Paxil gland or any of those medications? Where are the glands? There aren't any. So what they're doing is they're substituting in a pharmaceutical chemical to try and simulate something missing from the body, as opposed to going and finding what it is that's missing from the body and trying to fix that. And it's usually not something quote unquote missing. It's the fact that the deficit is precipitated by the inflammatory cascade. I mean, I said, I sound, you know, monotonal in terms of talking about inflammation because it's at the core of everything.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Cancer, diabetes, cognitive impairment, ALS, multiple sclerosis, all inflammatory processes. Wow. Yeah, I've heard Breca say it's the root cause of all disease, right? Yep. So if you had no inflammation in your body, is it possible to get sick? Yeah, it's still Breca say it's the root cause of all disease, right? Yeah. So if you had no inflammation in your body, is it possible to get sick? Yeah, it's still possible to get sick.
Starting point is 00:13:09 But the point is how your body responds to that inflammation. So you get a virus, you got a healthy immune system because you're not taking in a lot of chemistry that suppresses like alcohol suppresses the immune system. You don't want to do that. Or you're taking a little bit of DHA to boost the immune system, or seven keto DHA to boost, or growth hormone. These are all known to improve the ability
Starting point is 00:13:30 of the immune system to respond. So if you're under attack by a virus or bacteria, you want the inflammation. Inflammation has a role, and that is to get rid of the attackers. So if it's bacteria, viruses, mold, or poisons put into our body through injections. That makes sense, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And when you work out, you get inflamed too, right? Yeah, you get inflamed when you do work out. And the muscle activation generates a group of hormones from the muscle. What's her name? Gabriella. Lyon. Lyon, Gabriella. She took our class in TBI. Oh name? Gabriella. Lion. Lion, Gabriella. She took our class in TBI.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Oh really? Yeah, smart gal. Wow, yeah, she's right. She's been on the show. Yeah. And you've found the link with TBI and PTSD, which I've never heard of before. What, PTSD?
Starting point is 00:14:16 What are the linkage between them? Well, honestly, I get a lot of nasty looks at me when I say I don't believe in PTSD. And the reason why I don't believe in PTSD is because if you start looking at the history of everybody who's given the title of PTSD, you find they've all had a TBI. I mean, last year before I did a presentation for the Department of Health and Human Services in Texas, I sent an invitation out to 250 of our veterans who had been in our program for at least 12 months. And they had 72 hours to respond, 79 people respond, so that's random.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And I separated them into two categories. The VA said that this group had pure TBI and this group had pure PTSD. And when I looked at the end results, because every month they fill out a questionnaire called the MPQ, monthly program questionnaire, which is 25 questions, subjective assessment, where they talk about psychological, physiological, and physical functioning. And we monitor that and we put it into our database and we watch individuals they go from zero being the lowest because they're affected by the traumas they had and as they go through the course of our program they get better so they might
Starting point is 00:15:32 get 50% better here 30 there 20 whatever and 60% so we score this and 65% of the people were 50 to 100% better. Damn. Yeah. That's crazy. Pretty good. And 35% that did not get at least 50%, that was my focus. The question was why was it that they did not get better? And it's something called biological resiliency, which is a big term for lifestyle choices. So if you choose the wrong things, like you drink alcohol, you take drugs, certain medication that people are
Starting point is 00:16:05 given have nasty side effects. You know, there are drugs out there like statins which can cause irreversible type 2 diabetes. Wow. Yeah. So, if they're drinking adequate amount of water, good quality water, clean water, not toxic water. You know, there was a study that came out of California said that it found 300 somewhat different pharmaceutical drugs in the water even after it's gone through the you know, the
Starting point is 00:16:31 Recreate Hyperion, which is the reclamation plant crazy. Yeah, and then sleep hygiene Nutrition. Are you eating? Well the foods that you're eating good for you Are they inflammatory non-inflammatory and then my daughter Allison is a naturopathic doc. She does the neuroendocrinology on all our civilians, professional sports and so forth. She specializes in gut related issues and she brought to my attention over three years ago, four years ago now, that if we don't assess the gut, you can miss a cause for inflammatory chemistry being generated in the gut that goes right into the brain. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:17:10 And that's what happens. If you have dysbiosis or you have gastritis or there's a medication you're taking, like you're taking aspirin or you're taking non-steroidal anti-inflammatories that can cause inflammation aligning of the gut, it can lead to the release of these inflammatory chemicals because they're trying to protect the gut
Starting point is 00:17:28 and it goes right into the brain and turns on the cells in the brain called microglia and they start dumping inflammatory cytokines. They call them pro-inflammatory cytokines. And so all our treatment regimens are directed towards dropping these cascades of inflammation. And the reason why hormones like testosterone are so very important is we think of, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:51 all the gender hormones, the sex hormones, the reproductive hormones, testosterone, the estradiol, the progesterone, the prognitolone, we think of them as sex hormones. But they're more than that. They're called pleiotropic, which means multi-, multi layers of benefits, pleio, many. And it turns out that testosterone will shut off for the worst inflammatory chemicals in the brain. Intralucin 1, 1 beta, 2 microsis factor alpha, and intralucin 6, and at the same time turn on the most anti-inflammatory chemical in the brain called intralucin-10.
Starting point is 00:18:28 So we need that. And then looking at estradiol, it has an array of things it does to lower inflammation in the brain. That's why when you see studies coming out, women who are deficient in estradiol have a 50% greater occurrence of Alzheimer's and cognitive impairment. Dang. Yeah. And there's also pregnenolone and allopregnenolone.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Pregnenolone is what comes from cholesterol. Cholesterol right into pregnenolone. Pregnenolone is called the mother of all hormones. So we need that mother of all hormones to become all the other hormones, like DHA, testosterone, estrone, estradiol, cortisol. So if we have a breakdown in the conversion of cholesterol or not enough cholesterol to go to these hormones, you lose the hormones, you lose the protection in the brain.
Starting point is 00:19:14 It's about 35 hormones in the brain called neuro steroids. And then below the neck, there's another group of neuro active steroids that are produced by the glands, the endocrine glands throughout the body. there's another group of neuroactive steroids that are produced by you know the glands the Endocrine glands throughout the body. Dang. I didn't know there were steroids in our body. Oh Where else are they? I just heard of them. In the syringe. That's the ones I heard of And those are not good for you. Well, you know everything appropriately done
Starting point is 00:19:46 You need to check the patient, see what it is that they're deficient in, and do things to get their own body to generate it. September, October of this year, released after 15 years of collecting data, took about 14 months to write the paper. It's the Clomophin paper, which has Clomophin and e-chromophin, which is a medication that fakes your control center, the hypothalamus, to think that it's deficient in estrogen. So what does it do? It releases a chemical that they call gonadotropic releasing hormone that goes to the pituitary and turns on FSH, follicle stimulating hormone, which generates the ovum maturation in females,
Starting point is 00:20:23 sperm production in males, and then luteinizing hormone, which goes to the female ovaries in the fecal cells and turns on testosterone production, goes to the lytic cells in the testes and turns on the production of testosterone. So, instead of giving testosterone injectable or topical or pellets or whatever, what we first tried to do is turn their system back on. And going into this in 2014 about, you know, I had this preconceived notion that if you're older it won't work. I'll be 72. I
Starting point is 00:20:56 was on injectable testosterone for 17 years since 2015. The first year after we started the three-year veteran Clomid study to figure out what the ideal dosing is of Clomid, you pulse it, you don't give it every day. So we have people that are every 72 hours, every three days taking one tablet, and it turns on the testosterone production in males. So we don't suppress our system from the hypothalamus to the pituitary to the gonads, male or female.
Starting point is 00:21:28 What we do is we encourage the system to turn itself back on. So we have people who come into us with testosterone deficiency. We look at their trauma for the inflammatory component. We look at their Skittles and vitamin M, which is the Motrin ibuprofen. It's their love term for these medications that they take tons of and it shuts off their testes ability to make testosterone. And so we put them onto the Clomet or the E-Clomet. We have over a thousand people on it
Starting point is 00:21:57 and they're producing testosterone lumps like kids. That's incredible. I'd rather do that than take a needle in my butt. And there were people who don't like the needle. And then there's at the recent biohacking, there's a doc there that, or a company there, that's developing an oral form of testosterone that has FDA approval for it, is my understanding,
Starting point is 00:22:17 which will be revolutionary, but it's still a testosterone. So again, try to get the body to make its own hormone before you put something in that we know will shut down your own innate production of testosterone. Right. Because after age 40 or 35, I think you drop 1% a year testosterone on average. Yeah, it's 40 in most people, but it can be accelerated. If you have ibuprofen, it can be accelerated the more traumas you have. So you can have subconcussive traumas like 50 caliber gunner, or someone who's doing a jujitsu and someone who's doing a wrestling.
Starting point is 00:22:55 You know, you don't have to have loss of consciousness. This is something that has been gaining more attention is repetitive head injury like CTE but subconcussive and what subconcussive means compared to concussive is that in concussive you know you've had your bell rung because you're disoriented, you know nausea, vomiting, blurred vision, you might be lethargic, tired, you might you know be disoriented, amnesia, but in subconcussive you don't have any of that. Never knock to the ground.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Never have any symptoms. But what happens is the inflammation cascade is turned on. What happens is the more times you have that repeated injury, it adds to it and at a certain point what will happen is it'll break through its threshold and you'll have symptoms. Dang. Yeah, I had a sad case that I went to lecture about subconcussive where it was Sergeant Major in the Green Beret, Bruce Parkman had just lost his son, Mack Parkman, who was a
Starting point is 00:24:03 wrestler and a football player and no one knew that he was going through anything but he ended up taking his life and the father and his son Mac had such a relationship that Bruce wanted to do something so he put together this phenomenal organization the Mac Parkman Foundation he had some brilliant people come in to lecture on the subject of CT and so forth. And he had invited me at the, you know, we met at the end, but he invited me to give a lecture. And it was about how the process occurs,
Starting point is 00:24:36 how you go from the injury down the biochemical changes step by step, leading to why you become depressed, why you become anxious. So subconcussive is in a lot of school sports. You don't have to have lost consciousness. It's in wrestling, it's in hockey, it's in lacrosse. Lacrosse, yeah, football too. Oh, football, field hockey,
Starting point is 00:24:59 when my daughter's played field hockey, depending upon if you've got a male playing in a female sport, getting hit by a volleyball, you know, on the head and knocked unconscious and in a coma, you know, you've got those kinds of scenarios that happen. Heading a ball. I mean, projects that I have in England, UK and in Australia, New Zealand, they're starting to realize that heading the ball is not a good thing.
Starting point is 00:25:24 In soccer? In soccer. Yeah, the ball is not a good thing. In soccer? In soccer. Yeah, that ball is pretty hard. And it's, I mean, it's perceived that, well, I'm just tapping the ball, it's not knocking me unconscious. It doesn't matter. It's still that little thing that you get.
Starting point is 00:25:37 It's coming out of fast speed most of the time too. I'd love to see what the force of impact is. The speed, the density and how it hits. There are, let's see with the head trauma, there's the causation we're now finding out it's called cellular mechanotransduction, which basically means in English is that the cells vibrate against each other. When they do, it'll cause a stimulation of the immune system that'll start dumping inflammatory chemistry. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Starting the process. I've got engineers from the flight deck of carriers, they're, you know, F-14s, whatever the jet is that they're working with. And just from the rumble of the jet engine induces what they now call high decibel, loud, high decibel, low frequency, very deep. And that vibration is so intense. I mean, I know you've been to concerts where you're close to the base and you feel it in the body.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I hate it. I hate concerts. Yeah. I still love them. Yeah. I could see that though, because it's literally shaking your head, right? Right. Wow. And it's the base, you know, you've got groups like Metallica, you know, playing.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Yeah. Where it's very intense, heavy metal. Super loud. Super loud, heavy metal. Damn, so that's causing some brain stuff. So it causes the vibration, that cellular-mechanical transduction. And that accounts for why people who say, you know, I've never had a head drama, but you go through their history and you see certain things.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Um, they used to skateboard. They rode bicycles, right? They, uh, roller skated, um, ice skated, uh, who hasn't fallen learning how to bicycle ride? Who hasn't fallen learning how to bicycle ride? Who hasn't fallen learning how to walk? And these are all the things that happened before five years of age that are totally out of sight, out of mind.
Starting point is 00:27:32 But it's important, low forcep delivery, or difficult delivery, emergency C-section, these all can predispose you. Having surgery can predispose you to head trauma because you're on anesthesia, blood flow is altered because you want to keep the surgical area dry. So what they do is they lower your blood pressure so you don't squirt, you know, blood squirt. And these things I believe really influence the brain. And talking with some of my anesthesiologists who do cardiology, they said, yeah, we lowered the blood pressure to here and oxygen, they pump in a lot of oxygen.
Starting point is 00:28:07 But I believe that surgery creates a problem, an inflammatory problem. I can see that. I had a TBI actually. I had no idea how I got it. I got a scan at Dr. Amon clinics and I had one. So you had a spec scan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And then my mom had a really long surgery when she was in college, open heart surgery. And she said her brain never felt the same after that. Right. Robin Williams was in the OR operating room for 13 hours for correcting a couple of cardiovascular conditions. Subsequently, he ends up committing suicide. Wow. Well, what we know is that cortisol goes up, cortisol alters a lot of chemistry in the brain, and you lose thyroid hormone. Well, it turns out that thyroid has more literature of its relationship to
Starting point is 00:28:51 depression and suicide than testosterone or any of the other hormones. So he was deficient. And it's not really deficiency of testosterone, excuse me, of thyroid, but it's the fact that testosterone, excuse me, of thyroid, but it's the fact that cortisol under stress, surgical stress, will cause the functional thyroid hormone called T3 to be converted from T4 to T3 to reverse T3, which is a form of thyroid hormone which is inactive. So you have a lot of inactive when you should have a lot of active. And with a low level of T3, functional T3, it increases depression. You get depression. Metabolic changes as well. Wow, I didn't know he had that procedure. Yeah, 13 and a half hours.
Starting point is 00:29:37 That's long. I'm scared to get knocked out from my wisdom teeth removal. So I don't know if I'm going to wake up and my brain's not the same. Well, we have people who have sinus, our veterans, who are doing great on our program, getting better. They go and have sinus surgery and for three months they're back to square one. Wow. And that's because when you cut the tissue it releases those inflammatory cytokines. When you have your wisdoms teeth taken out you get a lot of cytokines being released because you're traumatizing the skin, the tissue, and the immune system kicks in
Starting point is 00:30:10 because some of the chemistry, cellular materials that are released into the circulation that are absorbed through the lymphatic system will turn on your immune system. And the immune system says, I'm here to fight, let's dump, you know, these pro-inflammatory cytokines. Oh, we don't care that it goes into the brain
Starting point is 00:30:26 and causes them to get depressed, insomniac, irritable. Yeah. So it's all related. Yeah, I've got my family's a lot of dentists. Oh yeah? Yeah, I like the movement towards biological dentistry that's happening right now. Oh yeah, I like that too.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I'm a fan of that. Yeah, the removal of the heavy metals, and this is talking about heavy metals like mercury and lead, that we, in the population of veterans that came to us from Fort Bragg in North Carolina, a lot of them had a very unique pattern of testosterone deficiency. They had very high amount of DHEA, which is a precursor to testosterone, but very low level of free testosterone. How can you have high amount of DHEA, which should metabolize into testosterone and slow?
Starting point is 00:31:14 Well, it turns out that lead and mercury would cause a block, an enzymatic block, so they can't convert the DHEA to testosterone. So where are they getting the mercury and the lead? Well, they're in close quarter combat training. They're in the kill house and they're being exposed to macuric chloride, which comes off the primer and lead, which is from the round that goes through their muzzle of their, you know, whatever they're inhaling. And so what happens is it generates a plume of mercury and lead gas vapor,
Starting point is 00:31:49 and they're inhaling it. So now you see a lot of the guys, while you have for a couple of years, they're wearing masks when they're in there to protect them. And one of the Sergeant Majors I worked with in Bragg, he would show me his lab results, you know, me his lab results. You know, and his lab results would show high levels of mercury and lead. And when he got finished with doing either a deployment
Starting point is 00:32:13 or working in improving his skills in the kill houses. That's crazy. Yeah, so people, children who are exposed to lead, you know, either from a mercury thermometer or environmental paint or just bad location with high heavy metal toxicity, will create a problem. Molds, black mold, aspergillus nigrens, very bad. People go into a house and some people are sensitive to it. It's concentration related and they'll generate inflammatory chemistry in the brain. Brain will, I mean the body will respond to this attack by this mold by generating an attack against it with pro-inflammatory cytokines which is why we see a
Starting point is 00:32:59 lot of psychiatric, psychological, functional problems in people who are exposed to molds. So it's a real, real issue. They just found some black mold in my sauna at lifetime. Your sauna? At lifetime, the gym. Yeah, they found it underneath the wood. One of the areas that we're totally missing in water dispensers.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Water dispensers? Water dispensers, like in your refrigerator. Like in, I'm not gonna say the name of the water company, but you know, in their, you know, five gallon tanks that sit in a device that gets cold or hot. You need to check it. You need to have it cleaned. I got to clean mine out. I got one at home.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Yeah. So you should, I think they're talking about monthly that you go through a process with vinegar. Okay. I need to definitely do that. I haven't cleaned it once. Vinegar or you know, if you don't like scotch. Yeah. I don't use the fridge one because tap water, but I got the five gallon glass one at home. Yeah. And everything that I do, you know, I put into glass all our leftover foods and anything that we do is goes in the glass. I grow pomegranates which have some incredible technology I mean chemistry in it polyphenols and so forth then Mark
Starting point is 00:34:10 Hyman just did a I think it was Instagram where he was talking about there's a chemical in pomegranates that when it gets the gut to the bacteria in the gut it gets converted into a chemical that is like anti-aging. Wow. That's anti-cancer and so forth. But the polyphenols and pomegranates are just phenomenal. So I have three pomegranate trees and I make pomegranate wine. It's so good. It sounds amazing. It's great.
Starting point is 00:34:37 You know, I mix it with a little Tito's. Let it sit with Tito's and you just make it so that you can't taste the Tito's. You just take the taste, palms. I love it. Pomegranate and so people go and they drink they say it's so good and they drink two or three of them they start getting bombed from it. Dang. So I tell them only one. I got a pomegranate tree I struck out this year. It's two it's really hot in Vegas. Yeah. All mine dried out or bugs got inside of them. Oh yeah that's terrible.
Starting point is 00:35:02 You have I grow the Persian pomegranates. They're the blood red ones. Ooh. And they're really juicy and sweet, tart and sweet. Sounds good. Really good. Yeah, out here they're dry. They don't get as big as the ones you're growing, I bet.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Yeah, there's about 15 feet. They're bushes, they're not really trees. Oh, I have a tree. So you have a single stalk on it? A single- I don't know. Maybe it is a bush then. They're technically bushes.
Starting point is 00:35:28 So every year what I do is I cut back because there's like 15, 20 of these bush branches coming out of it. But it's good. Meyer lemons, so I make lemon cello. Love it man. When you were in Japan, were you measuring your
Starting point is 00:35:44 heavy metal levels with all the sushi out there? No, in fact I stopped eating sushi and it wasn't because of the heavy metals and the mercury from the large fish, it was really because I freaked out on parasites. Same. I mean, I was at Loyola and doing my undergraduate in biology and molecular chemistry
Starting point is 00:36:02 and I was brought in to be teaching the PA for parasitology. So I had to look at all these slides and know all these bugs, freaked me out. I'd stopped eating pigs, stopped eating, you know, sea shellfish, I stopped eating a lot of things. And people said, oh, you're Jewish, That's why you do it. I said no I'm a scientist and I'm looking at all these contaminants and you want You know this tapeworm in your body that control that can grow 45 feet long
Starting point is 00:36:35 You know, so you have a little tail out there because it's from mouth all the way. Oh, yeah You look at it and it just freaked me out. I used to love oysters and sushi Yeah, I had to cut back. I used to love oysters and sushi. Yeah, I had to cut back I don't do that. I used to go to the sushi buffet all you can eat. Yeah. Oh here they got tons of it Yeah in Vegas. Oh man, but yeah, I do a parasite cleanse twice a year. And what do you use for that? Just an all-natural company Miss Rogers hood apothecary. Okay. Yeah, there's a ton of them. Yeah. What I do is I use ivermectin for Yeah. What I do is I use ivermectin for 12 by 12, seven days, which is every 12 hours, 12 milligrams for seven days.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And the reason is all the literature that's coming out about ivermectin as an anti-cancer. I just had a 76 year old veteran who was diagnosed with prostate cancer. It's called the Gleason score seven. There's one through 10, 10 being the worst. And he read something about ivermectin and all these cancers. The information has been out there for a long time. It's just, we haven't been allowed to see it. Well, the media attacked that drug.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Exactly, exactly. So what Ray did was he went on 12 milligrams a day for eight weeks. And then at 12 weeks, he had a PET scan done of his prostate. They couldn't find any cancer. Yeah. And it was literature. You start looking in the literature. There was a Ortho Molecular came out with a Ortho Molecular magazine, came out
Starting point is 00:37:58 with a discussion on ivermectin, um, bendazole and abendazole in treating cancers, and there are articles talking about how ivermectin, um, bend is all in the bend is all in treating cancers. And there are articles talking about how Ivermectin helps to improve chemotherapeutics ability to kill cancers. But I was reading the ones about what they call it's a misnomer. It's called cancer precursor stem cells, which are the early conversion of cells, natural cells they mutate into potential cancer cells. So they found that they're very susceptible
Starting point is 00:38:33 to ivermectin in low dose. So what I do is 12 milligrams twice a day, every 12 hours for seven days. I do that every quarter. Wow. And so if I've got any, you know, parasites, maybe that'll help a little bit. Definitely will. Yeah. Yeah. I remember the media villainized that one. Oh yeah. Holy crap. Absolutely. And then when Rogan went and took it, he almost got cancelled.
Starting point is 00:38:56 That was just. Shout out to Spotify for supporting him because that was a big deal. Yeah. There was a lot of pressure. They helped. Are you on, Are you taking any stem cells? You look great for 72 by the way. No, I don't do any stem cells. You can stimulate your own stem cells as well as you can stimulate, you know, in this biohacking world that we're in. You can stimulate stem cells with cocoa. There has been a number of studies showing that if you take two cups of cocoa, real cocoa, not Hershey's, real cocoa. And what happens is it increases your stem cell release from bone marrow. Um, I use, um, certain peptides that help with, uh, functioning.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I mean, I was supposed to have back surgery. I have a compression of L four or five. And I went into a orthopedic peptide that we've been working with since 2019. And the effect was the inflammation drop. And when you have a nerve that's inflamed, that's where it sends the signal of pain, as well as it causes dysfunction so you can't move your leg or something. I had 12 weeks where I could barely walk. I woke up one morning after 10 weeks of being on peptides, three peptides,
Starting point is 00:40:10 and I'm no pain, nothing. Holy crap. Had to cancel the surgery. Yeah. Holy crap. Had to cancel the surgery. And we have right now about 120 plus veterans who have, um, orthopedic disabilities by the VA
Starting point is 00:40:25 no longer have it. That's incredible. No longer have it. And I've got a 39 year old, Chad, who had fusion of L4, L5, S1, three levels of spine, front and back fusion, and he's in the hospital. And day one, he's up walking that's insane day two no narcotics day three he's you know they're looking at him like you can
Starting point is 00:40:51 go home day four post-op his surgeon said he's back to 95% of expected recovery wow day four and he what I really like about the surgeon is that he asked Chad the following question, what are you doing? We have a lot of patients who accelerate. You see the chart of recovery, they're accelerating through it because of the peptides in the treatment that they're on. There have been a number of articles talking about people going for orthopedic surgeries, that if they're low in testosterone, they're in the hospital longer and their recovery takes longer. But if they have optimal levels
Starting point is 00:41:29 of testosterone, they recover a lot faster. And that's because there are about four things that improve the recovery of muscles. Vitamin D, vitamin D, chromium, DHEA, and DHT, dihydrotestosterone, the active metabolite, testosterone. How they all work is by improving the ability of sugar to get into the myocytes, into the muscle cells, through a transport system that they refer to as Gluc4. So those four things help this Gluc4 receptor to work more efficiently at bringing sugar into the muscle cells to make glycogen, which is the fuel.
Starting point is 00:42:16 So you can get better recovery, better growth, and better endurance if you've got more of glycogen in the cell so it can use the energy to do the work that it needs. So keeping a good balance on muscle on these hormones, and I know Gabrielle talked a lot about that, yeah, for focus. These are some of the issues that help to improve it. But we can all biohack ourselves by making sure our levels of hormones, regardless of age. You know, we've got people that are, women that are in their 70s or 80s,
Starting point is 00:42:50 say, why do I need to have, you know, testosterone, good levels of estrogen? Because they work in the brain, they work in the body, help protect the bones, help protect the heart, you know? And one of the things that really irks me is that the medical communities out there that says, oh, woman doesn't need any hormone replacement until she's symptomatic. So I thought on it for a tenth of a second.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I said, okay, so you want to wait until she gets Alzheimer's before you start treating her so she doesn't get Alzheimer's. Well, that's Western medicine in general, right? They wait till your blood levels are at certain points. That's right. We're illness medicine based. And thank God for biohacking and preventive medicine. We wanna be in there doing everything we can.
Starting point is 00:43:39 And the only way you know is not wait until you're sick to do the blood work, but you're healthy. Let's see where you're at. Let's do a baseline. And then we'll go and do a baseline every year. Now in our practice, most of our people leave the practice within a year to 18 months. This is our goal because we don't want to keep them in an illness mental state or perception. You fix the inflammation as we talked about, chronic and acute. You take the inflammation as we talked about chronic and acute.
Starting point is 00:44:06 You take the chronic away, push it into acute, take care of the acute, they get better, they don't need anything, they leave the practice. But some of them stay on things like the brain rescue and they stay on a multivitamin to get their supplements. One of the things that we're doing to ourselves is not replacing the minerals, our daily mineral needs that we're diluting out of our system and pissing out with drinking tons of water that has what minerals in it? Fluoride. Hopefully no longer. Hopefully all the lawsuits that are finally recognized as being
Starting point is 00:44:43 yeah fluoride is not good. But you know we don't get the magnesium, the molybdenum, the chromium, the copper into our system. And every one of those has a very important role to play. We've reversed 39 cases of type 2 diabetes with chromium polynicotinate, DHEA with vitamin D, and getting their DHT, their testosterone. Because why is it that in the endocrine world, the endocrinologists that take care of diabetic patients, why do they tell them to exercise? Well, if you exercise, Gabriel probably shared it with you,
Starting point is 00:45:14 it increases the sugar in the circulation going into the muscles. Guess the muscles don't need the insulin like all the other cells do, okay? So you transfer the sugar from the blood into the tissues so they can use it. In diabetes, there's a form of low blood sugar that occurs in the cell.
Starting point is 00:45:37 The sugar is high in the circulation, but because the insulin isn't working efficiently or this Gluc4 receptor isn't working efficiently, you can't get it into the cell so the cell stars. So what happens to the cell? Starts generating inflammatory chemistry, reactive oxygen species that create damage to the lining of the arteries. You look at diabetics, why did they get heart disease two to three times faster than the
Starting point is 00:46:03 average person? Because the inflammation creates the stickiness of the blood vessels, calcium lays down, atherosclerosis, atheromas, and it causes an airing, you get a heart attack. Wow. That's crazy. So you can improve that. Yeah. When you were in China for 10 years, what were you seeing?
Starting point is 00:46:19 What was the health like over there? Um, smoked like crazy. You've been there, right? Yeah. Don't they there? Smoked like crazy. You've been there, right? Yeah. Don't they all smoke? Smells like terrible. Yeah, smoking.
Starting point is 00:46:30 So the work that I was doing in China from 2006, no, 2006 into 2014, I quit the program I was with. Just didn't like what was going on was bringing Western technology to an Eastern medical Eastern. So I was working in Southeast Asia, Thailand mostly, and we had Chinese doctors coming in. In 2005, I was invited through A4M by the Ministry of Health in China to go and train a thousand docs in China. So the A4M project we had in 2005, 2006 was in Thailand. So I got picked up to go to China to help the guy who owns Red Bull in China, second
Starting point is 00:47:21 wealthiest guy in China, to help establish a medical center in Beijing. And, um, it was just difficult working with them. Yeah. Uh, I went to and lectured for, uh, the, um, stem cell society there. We shared information, the benefits of growth hormone and cultures of stem cells, um, one of the stem cells, mesoderm stem cells, and they were showing some of their research where they were reversing diabetes by using stem cells
Starting point is 00:47:55 because it affected the quality of the pancreatic cells. Right, that's a big deal over there because of the white rice, right? Oh yeah. You eat a lot of white rice? No, my grandfather did and he had diabetes diabetes so yeah that's what they say I eat khao rosa every now and then what is that it's it's a sticky rice oh like the Japanese sticky rice oh is that the one with the seaweed wrapped over it oh you
Starting point is 00:48:18 can do it with seaweed okay you know you think I'm with or without seaweed sticky rice I like purple rice in Thailand. I've had purple rice. Purple rice. Yeah, but I don't eat very much. I try to stay. Yeah, I keep the carbs low these days. Try to.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Yeah, you look it. Yeah, well I have the MTH, I thought, gene break too. Got you. Most of it. In all our products, they're methyl tetra, they're methylated D vitamins. Oh nice. Yeah, cause I can't take most multivitamins.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah. Well, the fact that you just took B1, B2, B5, B6 and B12 in that, see how you respond. You said you felt great. You feel great. Alert, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. Yep, yeah, I'm ready to go. And it lasts eight to 12 hours.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Wow. Yeah, eight to 12. I had one of my buddies, a PhD at Pepperdine in natural physics and physics. He took it, within five minutes it's working, he couldn't go to sleep. He was up for like 18 hours. It's like an Adderall.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah, hopefully not. Yeah, natural Adderall. A natural Adderall, yeah. One of the issues with, since you brought up Adderall, things like Pro Vigil, New Vigil Adderall. A natural Adderall, yeah. One of the issues with, since you brought up Adderall, things like ProVigil, NuVigil Adderall, Ritalin, Silert, they really mess the chemistry up in the brain. So you've got people who have ADD, if you will. There's a little research out there showing that
Starting point is 00:49:38 if you have ADD, check the testosterone, because the area of the brain, the amygdala, is a startle center, a hyper center, and if it's inflamed or not enough testosterone to keep it calm, you can run into problems of ADD, ADHD. So we have people that go on to one of our products, it's called ClearMinded Energy. We had a gal, let's see, she was on 20 milligrams of Adderall every day for five years. Damn. She was in Chicago, our doc in Chicago is Alicia Polzak, who's been with us since 2010.
Starting point is 00:50:13 She put her on to our natural product, ClearMinded Energy, which is as it states, clear mind and energy. So the energy component is Guarana, which is a natural product. And what happened was in two weeks, she's off her Adderall. Didn't go back on her Adderall. Wow. Yeah. And we have people with ADD, ADHD that are on it. I have a veteran who's been with us for about a year, did very well.
Starting point is 00:50:40 His son gets meningitis and ends up in the hospital. He's two years of age and gets out of the hospital and they notice that he's not maturing, progressing, failing to progress. So he didn't call me. He went and put him on to one of our products called Brain Rescue One, which is for adolescents and younger people. This one is for adults, but we have some adults who get too energized from the three, so they use the one.
Starting point is 00:51:07 So he gave his son a half a packet of this Brain Rescue One and within two weeks, his mood, his attitude, all came back to normal. Incredible. Yeah, so it was quite impressive. We've had Lyme's disease, Incredible. Yeah, so it was quite impressive. We've had Lyme's disease,
Starting point is 00:51:27 EBV, Epson Barr Virus Syndrome, mononucleosis, Epson Barr Virus, encephalitis, equine encephalitis from a vaccine. Someone got military going to Japan, had to get the equine encephalitis vaccine, ended up getting the condition, losing his sight, legally blind. Yeah, it was disastrous. But anyway, he's doing better. He's doing well in a short period of time.
Starting point is 00:51:53 His mood and so forth from the chronic inflammation. I've been sleeping on these peptides, man. Damn. Which one? I've been sleeping on peptides in general. I haven't tried any yet, but it sounds like they're really effective for all this stuff. You know, I sleep my best on growth hormone.
Starting point is 00:52:06 And you can use IGF-1-LR3, which is the active growth hormone produced in the brain goes to the liver, turns on nine proteins, IGF-1 being one of them. And IGF-1 is the one that helps with production of muscle actin and mycin, also drops inflammation in the brain, it's phenomenal. Insulin-like growth factor. In fact, in helping people with type 3 diabetes, have you heard that term? That's Alzheimer's, right? That's Alzheimer's. So what happens, and I'm just in the middle
Starting point is 00:52:38 of a paper on this, is that with the inflammation that occurs in Alzheimer's because the beta amyloid and the tau protein, the hyperphosphorylation of tau protein, it creates inflammation that actually damages growth hormone production. Well, why does growth hormone need in the brain? Well, it turns out that IGF-1, insulin-like growth factor,
Starting point is 00:53:00 it functions like insulin to get sugar into the nerves. So when you lose the ability to transport sugar into neurons, the neurons starve and die. And that's why they're calling it type three diabetes. So what happens is what is affected by the beta amyloid, which is the key protein produced, not the, but the, not the only one, but is part of that whole cascade of beta amyloid and tau protein NFTs
Starting point is 00:53:30 neurofibrillotangles. The inflammation shuts off the ability of the glucose 4 receptors to work. So you're not only missing the signal for it to work, but you're missing the mechanism. The transport system is not working. So the way that we've helped our Alzheimer's patients and dementia patients is by reversing that, getting them on things that drop the inflammation and also stimulating their growth hormone production. The dinotropin is just one of the natural products
Starting point is 00:54:01 that works on five pathways in the brain to increase growth hormone. How do we know it works? Do a blood test before and after, and you see the rise in IGF-1 and growth hormone levels and binding protein-free. So we've been able to improve upon dementia in patients. We have a 95-year-old. He's a Korean war vet who's referred to to me by his son who's Middle East,
Starting point is 00:54:26 Special Forces, they're a gray team out of Florida. And he called me, he says, can you do anything for dementia? But sure. So I sent him a kit of these things. 70 days later, the son, Kerry, calls me. Says my dad's almost better from his dementia. He said, okay, let's get on a Skype.
Starting point is 00:54:44 We got on a Skype. I'm interviewing him, putting him through some challenge tests. Turns out he was a PhD in adolescent development, child and adolescent. We had a beautiful half an hour, 40 minute conversation. Wow. And at 90 days, he, his son sends me a video of his, of his father talking, telling what had happened to him. And it looked pretty good.
Starting point is 00:55:03 of his father talking, telling what had happened to him. And it looked pretty good. And then at 180 days, they send me another video of him on some television program being interviewed running a mile every morning and exercising three times a week in the gym. And he says, the commentator, the host says, and this 94 year old gentleman, he says, excuse me, let me correct you next week.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I'll be 95. So after seeing that, I called him up and we had like an hour and 10 minute conversation about I love that just from this brain rescue and a protocol that we have called the phase two protocol phase two protocol adds to a DHEA, pregnenolone and vitamin D because they work at lowering the inflammation and improving nerve functioning. Okay. Wow. So it's called the phase two protocol.
Starting point is 00:55:53 It's on the website, tbihelpnow.org under the science where it has all the components, how to do it, and plays it out. We have about 7,000 people out of our 10,000 that are not seeing me, but they're accessing the products for phase two protocol. Nice. Yeah, and since the paper on the Marines was released, which talks about that and how they responded,
Starting point is 00:56:20 and every one of the 18 areas that they responded that we questioned and how they responded is indicated in there. And then it breaks out each of the components since a couple of hundred articles references in it and it talks about how each one of the products works PQQ, CoQ10, DHA, Prositin and so forth. I like people to understand that before they take something this is what it does and here's the science showing it, as opposed to a product being released to the market and says, this will help you with ABCD. Right. Where's the proof? Where's the proof? That's why it took 16 years of clinical trials
Starting point is 00:56:56 for this product to come out. And the last straw that allowed me to feel comfortable in releasing it was the study with the Marines. They were the final people to say, hey, stuff works. I love it. And as you just felt it. I felt it within five, 10 minutes. Yeah. That's quick. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:16 That's quick. Have you seen anything affect autism and Asperger's? It's not an area that I delve into, but there are people using, you know, fatty acids to help with that. Inflammation helps. Plasma, you know, plasma-feresis, total body plasma-feresis, helping to remove some of the inflammatory chemistry. Whether you believe what the mainstream is saying out there is that vaccines do not cause autism. Removing that equation, what makes sense to me is if you do things to the body that starts a fire in the brain, it's going to damage systems in the brain. Right? Regardless of how that fire has started, whether it's a vaccine or alcohol or poor lifestyle or exposure to toxic environmental toxins,
Starting point is 00:58:10 PBAs, XYZs, whatever's in the roundup, the chemicals that are in there, it has to have an effect. And that's what we're learning, the effects that it's happening. And it's not just, oh, it can't happen. Let's look and see the potential that, and they're starting to say that vaccines do have a relationship. Right, well you can make a study appear how you want it in certain ways. Yeah, and you know, in all the papers that we have,
Starting point is 00:58:37 I put the raw data. I let the reader do the math. That's cool. So we've got 100 people and they're asked a question and 50% of them or 30% of them say yes. You'll see out of a hundred people, 30% 30 people out of a hundred said, yes, that's 30%.
Starting point is 00:58:57 So it's not manipulated to give a favorable number. I like that. Cause I feel like a lot of these studies have some sort of manipulation, you know So I'm not a fan of that and you look at who's funding it. You're like, okay, that's weird That's the first thing I go to and all the articles that I read I go look and see if they've been funded right and who's been The funder. Yep Absolutely. That's conflict of interest. Yeah. Well mark, it's been fun. I can't wait to do this again with you one day
Starting point is 00:59:22 Where can people find the product and learn more about you? You know, what I do is I don't send them to our Shopify store, which is millenniumhealthstore.com. I send them to the educational one, tbihelpnow.org, so that you have an opportunity to read in English how these products help and the studies that we've done over the years. As I said, 16 years for Brain Rescue 3 to come to fruition. It has three components. The first one went through the SEALs in Virginia Beach,
Starting point is 00:59:53 then the medics in Fort Campbell, Kentucky, and then the last phase of it, the Brain Rescue 3 with the Marines and First Recon Group in Camp Pendleton. And it was only after each one of those steps proving that the product was did the work that it was claimed to do. Did we start? Incredible. It's about reputation. Thank you for taking that time. There's a lot of health brands starting in like two months. The shortest one is three years.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Our new mushroom. I love it. Coming out. We'll talk about that on the next episode. Absolutely. Thanks for watching guys. Thank you. See you next time.
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