Digital Social Hour - Biohacks to Boost Longevity | JJ Virgin DSH #1117

Episode Date: January 17, 2025

Discover the ultimate biohacks to boost your longevity 🌱💪 in this exciting episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! Join the conversation as JJ Virgin shares her expert tips on how to live stronger, healthier, and longer. From the power of weightlifting and creatine to the magic of saunas, cold plunges, and fermented foods, this episode is packed with valuable insights on optimizing your health and vitality. 🏋️‍♀️💧🥗   Learn why prioritizing sleep, protein, and movement is non-negotiable, and how to navigate modern-day toxins and stress for a better you. JJ also reveals her top secrets on aging powerfully, debunking health myths, and finding balance in a world full of ultra-processed foods. 🥩🍇💡   Don’t miss out on this game-changing conversation! Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀   #biohackingtips #nutritionalgenomics #wellnessjourney #biohackingsecrets #personalizednutrition   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:50 - Biohacking Techniques 02:45 - Food Laws and Regulations 05:00 - Specialized Recruiting Group Insights 06:06 - Benefits of Fermented Foods 07:12 - Dangers of Toxic Tea Bags 07:48 - Advantages of Organic Band-Aids 08:40 - Health Benefits of Sauna Use 10:28 - Weight Lifting Importance for Women 14:00 - Significance of Grip Strength 16:50 - Importance of Sleep for Health 19:24 - Benefits of Creatine Supplementation 21:24 - Parasite Cleanse Explained 22:50 - Traveling for Healthy Food 24:30 - Insights from Blue Zones 27:55 - Misuse of GLP-1 Agonists 31:51 - Understanding Freaky Eaters 34:06 - Nutritional Benefits of Fruits 35:04 - Heavy Metals in Food Safety 37:00 - What's Next for JJ 37:37 - OUTRO   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail]   GUEST: JJ Virgin https://jjvirgin.com/ https://www.instagram.com/jj.virgin/   SPONSORS: SPECIALIZED RECRUITING GROUP: https://www.srgpros.com/   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/

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premiere. Biohack yourself right big deal The Oscars of Longevity they're calling it. Yeah, I'm really excited It looks like you got the top of the top people. Oh, I was looking at the list I'm like first of all, you know, we are they used to call us the health mafia It's a tight little crew of people. So it's like all your friends are there. So super fun, right? Yeah, biohacking was, when it first came out, people were making fun of it. Right?

It was kind of looked down on. And now it's like. I think they were just making fun of Dave. Dave got a lot of heat. I can rib Dave. Yeah. Yeah, Dave was like the forefront of it, right? 10 years ago?

Yes, he was. It was longer than that. Yeah. When did you get into it? I would not call myself really a biohacker. So here's the thing. This is my take on it. I think these things are super cool, but I think they have to be put into the right order.

And I feel that sometimes with biohacking, people start to major in the minors before they've majored in the majors. So you shouldn't be worried about, you know, are you getting the red light therapy you need if your foods sucks, right? Or you're not exercising, you're not sleeping well. So I think everything has to be put into place. And first you focus on food, exercise, I'm big on exercise, sleep, relationships, spiritual wellness. Then let's focus on sauna and red light and cold and all that. And I do all the stuff, but again I see people doing that stuff

and they've like they're eating ultra processed food. Yeah well that's most of the American diet right? Ultra processed food. Apparently 70% of our diet is now ultra processed food. That's disgusting. Isn't that crazy? And you go, we were in Europe this summer, we were in Europe this summer, we were walking through a supermarket, my husband goes, you know, you need to take a video of this because there's no, we had to go in the back of the supermarket to find the ultra processed food.

Everything was in refrigerators, everything was fresh, it was completely different. And you walk around the streets in other countries and you don't see 40 in other countries and you you know you don't see 40% obesity and 70% overweight or obese right so like cause and effect maybe plus they're walking yeah yeah that's interesting I wonder why Europe's just healthier than us overall you know all the food laws hmm have you seen the the information online where they show foods that have been banned in

yeah I mean just the glyphosate issue alone. Is that US only or is that everywhere you think though? Glyphosate? Yeah. Glyphosate I think is in Canada as well. I think Canada anything bad we've done Canada's kind of gotten a lot of it too. But you can just tell the difference. You know we're so careful about what we eat here and then we go overseas and I go, why do I feel so much better here in Europe or in Asia than I felt in the US, even though I'm doing all the right things in the US,

you just can't avoid it. I mean, think about it. If you're eating organic in the US, you still have glyphosate and all the crap in the soils because water flows, air blows, right? Right. Can't get away from it. 100%.

You've got to be careful with the bread here, right? I just don't eat bread. Not at all? No. Wow. Bread's so good, though. I grew up outside of San Francisco. I was born in San Francisco.

Sourdough is in my DNA, man. Sourdough's so good. That is the best. My fiance makes it from scratch, so maybe that's the way to do it. That is the way. Well, what you do is you get einkorn wheat. That is that special non-hybridized wheat. What they did was they genetically engineered the wheat

to dwarf it, to concentrate the gluten, and to be able to produce a lot more of it. And so if you get einkorn, which you actually can do, I've literally ordered sourdough einkorn pizza crusts from Etsy. No way. Yes. Yes. Isn't that wild? I didn't know they sold food on Etsy. I know. It's crazy. I'm and I of course from the business side I'm like how's this woman making money selling me a $20 pizza crust like this is this is really hard labor but yeah einkorn wheat that's the

deal. Wow. Einkorn wheat. Yeah because all the other I remember growing up they said like whole grain was good for you. Think about the things they said were good for you. I mean, when I grew up, I was raised on Pop Tarts. I literally, my nickname was Poppy. We had juice, we had cereal with milk. Choosy's mother chose Jeff. All that garbage.

Yeah, yeah, milk is an interesting one. I remember growing up, they said it was good for your bones and everything. Oh yeah, except that if you look at the research on milk and bone density, people who drink more milk have lower bone density because of the acidic nature of the milk. Wow, it's acidic? Looking for the ultimate online casino experience?

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Yeah, it reports the kidneys as acidic. Now if you did, say, Greek style yogurt and fermented it, it's different. Fermenting fixes a lot of things. That's why sourdough bread is so awesome. Especially if you do the einkorn wheat. Yeah, I had Sean O'Mara on. He talked about fermented foods.

Yeah, it's one of those things that if you go into any other culture, you will see, like we spent, two summers ago, we were in Seoul, South Korea, which is a fantastically cool place. First of all, I saw one, I didn't, my husband saw one overweight person. I saw, everyone is in shape, walking.

They're 90 years old, they're walking there at the gym. It's crazy. But they all have, fermented food is such a big mainstay of their diet. But you think of any other culture, and fermented foods are part of it, just not us. Wow. Yeah, kimchi, right? Yeah. You don't like kimchi? Do you?

I do. Really? But it had to it wasn't at first. I'd force myself to like it. One of those type of things. But it's a lot of a lot of things are like that. Like no one likes Brussels sprouts the first time they eat them. True. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you just gotta, you know, eat some veggies. Just force yourself to like them. Well, and you will over time.

Like green tea was not one of mine. I lived in Japan for a while and it was like, at first I went, this is disgusting. You've lived there long enough. You're like, this is amazing. Yeah, I love me some green tea, but did you see the study on the tea bags? How they're toxic, the plastic ones?

Yeah, so just get yourself the really nice little ball Put the green tea leaves in there or what I've been doing is just pick tea peak tea Mmm, PIC PIK you II haven't heard of that one. Yeah Well what they did was they went if they're Japanese or Korean But they basically found the best green tea out there with the highest Basically found the best green tea out there with the highest Polyphenol catechin content and then they make it into little powdered ones that you can add in Wow Yeah, I'm big on tea I just found out with band-aids do you see this no so band-aids are toxic now

So they're getting into bloodstream when you put the band-aid. Yeah, so I just had to buy organic band-aids. Wow. Yeah, it's enough. We have really, really messed things up. Yup, it's super concerning. Even your toilet paper. Huh. You know, there's so many things

you gotta look out for these days. Yeah. It's crazy, dishwashing pods. Yeah, well, I mean, we do everything, everything we can control, but the problem is we travel 70% of the time. So I try to control my environment at home, but here's the reality of all of that.

You could be doing everything as gray as possible, you are still gonna have toxins. And we are bombarded with things that our body was never built to handle. Like you think back of 10,000 years ago, they didn't have any of these forever chemicals. To me, the thing that's not a biohackack that's a non-negotiable is sauna. I use it almost every day.

I actually have two. I have the fast heat one. So we'll do the fast heat one where you can get in for like 10 to 15 minutes. It goes up to 180 and then cold plunge. And then we have the sun lighten so that we can do the infrared because the infrared apparently penetrates deeper where these toxins store in your fat, which is why people going on a weight loss diet better be good detoxifiers because if not, they're making themselves sick. Really?

Yeah. Well, think about it. If you store all your toxins in your fat and you are not a good detoxifier and maybe you do something like a juice cleanse so now you don't even have the amino acids on board that you need to conjugate those toxins when they get freed up and get them out of your body so now you're speeding up the toxic release but you're not eliminating it Wow big problem it's in your body still yeah so that's where that's where saunas can be amazing right because it gets out through your your sweat right you're

gonna poop it pee it or sweat it interesting. Yeah, I used to infrared almost every day. Yeah, good good I don't know if that one's better than the 200 degree. Oh my gosh. There's such an argument over the both of these It's it's I think they're probably all great. I Probably just the research is more done on all these finished hot saunas. I do both of them Yeah, it seems like there, it makes a lot of sense with the infrared and the being able to penetrate at a lower heat. So I just have both.

Plus that fast heat one, cause you know if you turn your sauna on and wait a while. It takes a while, yeah. So if I forget to do that, I can jump in my fast heat one. Is that the one where your head's sticking out of it? Yeah, so what my husband does is he puts this thing around his neck and a hat on.

I don't cause I've, then we'll have to blow dry my hair. he puts this thing around his neck and a hat on I don't cuz I've then we'll have to blow Down my hair. It's this hat on neck thing and that will make it even better. Okay. Yeah, I'm not on the plunge wave yet You think it's worth looking into plunges? Um, I Think there's some definite benefits to it So the benefits for it number one it can beige your white fat So we have white fat and brown fat brown fats what the babies have where they number one, it can beige your white fat. So we have white fat and brown fat. Brown fat's what the babies have where they shiver and it's very thermogenic and easy

to burn. So for someone, this is not you, definitely not your problem, but someone who has more visceral adipose tissue, more fat around their organs, more damaging fat and having trouble to lose it, that's where it could be helpful because it helps create that shiver response. I also love hormetic stresses that help your body handle things. Like this is why I love weight training. You go teach your body, I can do hard things and recover.

So I hate cold plunging, I hate being cold. I lived in Florida, I lived in Palm Springs before that. I don't like being cold. But I can get in there for a couple minutes. It's great for recovery, but you have to be careful where you do it, because if you go and do a really heavy weight training session and then go to cold plunging, you're basically gonna block that inflammatory response in the muscle protein synthesis, so you don't want to do that way. Yes, so it's like, and that's the challenge of like, okay, where do you put it into your routine, because

muscle protein synthesis can go on for a while, but what I do is I'll do it in the morning pre-going to the gym. That makes sense. How important is weightlifting for women, you think? I think weightlifting is the most important thing. I think weightlifting and creatine and protein for women are the trifecta of what they have to do,

because women tend to eat less protein. They tend to try to shrink themselves and be small, right? Thankfully, we're starting to move out of that and favor strong over skinny. But I'll tell you, back when I was growing up, this is the same weight. Literally, I put my cheerleading outfit on and it still fit. This is like the weight I was in high school. I was not quite as ripped in high school, but I was working out with the high school football team because they had no gyms for the girls.

And because I was six feet tall, they're like, you should be a model. So I go to the modeling agency in San Francisco and they go, you need to lose 20 pounds. So I came home and I put myself on a diet and I dropped 10 pounds and thankfully my coaches were like, first of all, I couldn't do a thing. You know, in terms of I was doing track and gymnastics, I couldn't, I was like, my performance tanked. But my coaches were like, are you anorexic? You know, because I mean, I looked like one. And I just realized at the time I could be strong or I could be skinny, but I couldn't be strong and skinny. And so I picked strong. And I think of so many of my friends over the years,

it's skinny is celebrated in, you know, the female physique. Yeah, for sure. Right? And no one ever wanted to get bulky. I used to do nutrition consulting for the models down in South Beach and go to all the modeling agencies and they would not lift weights. Because they had to stay a certain size,

a certain weight, they were weighed in. So we have to get past all of this. But sarcopenia is a real scary problem. Having low muscle mass relative to your weight, it's a big deal. and starting around age 30, we lose up to 1% of our muscle mass each year. Twice as much strength, three times as much power. And your strength is directly correlated

with all cause mortality. And the way we test that is grip strength. People with the lowest grip strength have the highest risk of death. Really? Grip strength? Grip strength. I never realized how important that was. Well, grip strength is the highest risk of death. Really? Yep. Grip strength. Grip strength.

I never realized how important that was. Yeah, well grip strength is a proxy for overall strength. It doesn't mean like, I was doing a podcast yesterday and the guy goes, yeah, so I've been doing that, you know, those hand exercises. The forearm flexors, yeah. I go, that's not the point.

If your grip strength's low, that means you need to be doing pull-ups and farmer's carries and the things that make you have to use this functionally because you're not training to get better training. Yeah I had the same issue. I was super skinny and growing up like super skinny. I was a distance runner I was like a hundred forty hundred fifty pounds six foot five Wow, I couldn't even do a pull-up or a push-up in high school. I was that weak Wow Wow Yeah, so I had to train myself now. I could do like 50 push-ups and few pull-ups. What about that grandma? That's doing

1,564 push-ups in an hour. I didn't see that. Oh my gosh. He's all over social. What's so funny? She's like, you know grandma she's 70. Anyway, she's the one that did the plank She planked for like a couple hours whites. Yeah, and then she did you gotta check this woman out then she did So this is what's so crazy She does 15 hundred and sixty four push-ups in an hour or something like that And of course the comments in the feed are like her forms off. I'm like Her forms off yeah, she might be on some hormone therapy or something too. Well, I would hope she's on hormone therapy I think that's another big one for women when they go through menopause, but she didn't look like she was on hormones like steroids.

Now you can tell the difference. I can show you a picture of me standing next to Mrs. Olympia. Yeah. Oh, you know, is that where you draw the line steroids? Well, steroids are like the antithesis of healthy, right? Like, you know, want to rip tendons to steroids. Yeah, the long term effects don't seem to be worth the short term results.

No, not at all. I mean, AKA Flojo. You know? No. Yeah, I think I could get on board with testosterone and stuff. Well, when you get to the point where you actually need it, which is years down the line.

Men tend to have a big drop in testosterone naturally get to the point where you actually need it, which is years down the line. Men tend to have a big drop in testosterone naturally in their late 50s. Anything prior to that, you've got to look at what the heck's going on in life that's doing that. Is it the estrogens from the plastic? Is it the tremendous amount of stress? Stress and toxins, those two things, think about 10,000 years ago. You were under either acute stress,

and you died, or you made it through. There wasn't chronic stress, and you didn't have the toxins. Wow, good point. So these two things are destroying, destroying your testosterone. No EMF and Wi-Fi back then, too. Well, and also just think of what they did with sleep. Yeah.

I mean, basically you had to follow a circadian rhythm. Sun goes up and down, right? That's when they slept back then. Now people are staying up till midnight, 1am, 2am. Totally messes it up. I got an eight-sleep mattress. Oh, I'm so interested in that. It's been really useful. I love it. My sleep was terrible at first, but now I'm getting like above 90 every night. Wow

So what does it do? It gives you? Analytics to like you fall asleep. It tells you how long you snored It tells you how long you're in REM sleep deep sleep all that and then you could see patterns So like you kind of log what you eat before you sleep and then it'll be like Oh, maybe you shouldn't eat that before you sleep because your sleep was worse. Mm-hmm So well, the biggest thing is don't eat two to four hours before bed, and longer is better. But you don't want to get to the point

where you're hungry going to bed, because that's going to be a problem too. But you want to hit a very, I call it the hormonal home run meal before bed of protein, fat, fiber. But if you can do it two to four hours before, because you don't want to be dealing with as you were getting ready for bed and our cortisol drops or melatonin can come up which is then basically telling your pancreas you know your organs we can sleep so you're

not producing insulin so most people before bed they eat like a high carb hit but they don't have the insulin for it so now they have elevated blood sugar which is how you'll wake up in the morning and your aura ring will go, looks like you ate late last night. What the heck happened? Yeah. Right. You can't produce growth hormone. So you need to stop eating a couple hours before bed. That makes sense. Sleep super important. I remember when I was younger, I could get away with sleeping like four or five hours, but these days it's tough. You could get away with it, but it doesn't mean it was good for you. Right. But these days I feel a difference. Like it's noticeable, you know

Yeah, like if I podcast on a day where I didn't sleep well the night before I notice how off I am. It's non-negotiable That's why I was stressed about this. It was like, oh it's at a studio I'm like I was looking at my sleep hours when I was flying in I our flight came in early because I was like, I'm very careful about sleep, especially when I travel Yeah, but I have a hack for jet lag that's been amazing Which is creatine that helps asleep. So here's what's super cool. I found this out I was looking at how they were using it in periods of sleep deprivation with like Navy SEALs

I thought well, I mean what's sleepvation? Jet lag totally is a nightmare for this. And so last summer, I had all these crazy trips back and forth like Europe, US, Europe, US. Then over to Canada, there was just big swings. And I used creatine the whole time. I basically tripled my dose because I take it every day. No jet lag at all. And I've always thought of myself as a I suffer from jet lag.

I also stopped the I suffer from jet lag. I also stopped the I suffer from jet lag I'm like, I don't do jet lag, right and but creatine changed everything interesting. Yeah, I don't take any right now Maybe I should look I think creatine is one of the greatest things on the planet. Wow Well, first of all, so here's the reality with it most studied supplement ever You know totally safe, but our body produces a gram of it every day in our liver and kidneys and then we need to consume one to two more grams a day. We have a hundred and twenty to a hundred and forty grams stored in our body and so we turn over like you know three grams or so a day. It's needed to produce energy

to produce ATP in the body. Ninety-five percent in the muscles, five percent in the brain, but there's really cool research now on it for TB eyes and cognition and mood But the reality is Something like 65% of us are not getting enough Dietarily because you'd have to eat a pound of meat. That's basically super rare or two pounds that are well cooked So most people are just not getting it. Yeah, wow I'm a big meat eater, but still I also don't like rare meat. Yeah, I just saw some video like the best Way to cook me and you saying medium rare or something. Yeah, the less cooked the better

Yeah, you know then you just have to make sure you're doing parasite cleanse periodically. Right? Yeah, it's Paul Saladino He said medium rare is the best because you start cooking out all the nutrients, right? Yeah Well, it's it's interesting the minute I did this I did a podcast interview with the guy who created creatine HCl Which creatine monohydrate they all talk about it being the most studied and the best absorbed the reality is 15% of its absorbed and the rest is not, so it creates some bloating. He was telling me about how we needed to eat for creatine, so we got to dinner and they have carpaccio, so we're like two servings of carpaccio.

I'll eat carpaccio, but I don't like meat pretty well cooked, which is not the best way to eat it. The best way to eat it is as rare as possible. So to his point, yes. That's good to know. Yeah, it's just got a parasite cleanse, like you said. I'm on right now, actually. Well, here's the thing.

You have to do that periodically. I actually have a very cool friend who works with a medical school in Africa. And so they test your blood. He'd be a great friend to have here. He tests your blood in stool, sends it to Africa, and then they give you a mixture of these African plant juices to kill off the stuff.

Wow. It got rid of my sunhead lime and Bartonella, which can be impossible to get rid of. Gone. That's nuts. Tastes nasty. Really nasty. But if you think about it, doesn't that

make sense where they're dealing with all of these different types of things in Africa and this is what they use. So. Yeah. I love how he just gets right to the root cause of it, too. He's like, oh, you have this? Yeah.

Let me find out what kills her. Exactly. Then they give you exactly what you need to do. Yeah. I try to do a cleanse like twice a year because, oh, man, those are strong. Well, I mean, you think about it. There's no way you're not getting hit with this stuff. How could we not? Yeah. I mean not eating as much. I used to eat a lot of sushi came back from Japan and was kind of obsessed with it and not eating

as much but then you look at what they do in in Japan is they're eating a lot of wasabi with it. Mmm. Like a ton right and then some ginger for digestion things that are gonna help digest it and kill things off. Oh, I didn't even look at it that way, but that makes sense. The wasabi's there for a reason. Like you look at these cultures and the foods they have and anything from the kimchi to the wasabi, they're there for a reason.

Yeah, where's been your favorite places to travel for like food-wise and health-wise? I loved Korean food. Oh my gosh, it is amazing. I love Korean food. Good old Korean barbecue. I also, it's the best. And Istanbul, I love Turkish food.

I've never heard that answer. I love Istanbul. Istanbul's amazing. Turkish food. Turkish food, yeah. I've never had it. Oh, well you can have it here. You can?

What is it? What are some common dishes? It's like Mediterranean food. Oh, maybe I have done. It's like Greek food. Okay. It's along the same lines. Like can? What is it? Like what are some common dishes? It's like Mediterranean food. Oh, maybe I have. It's um, it's like Greek food. Okay. It's along the same lines. Like kebabs and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I might have had it then. Yeah. Yeah, I love traveling for food. It's like my favorite part of traveling actually. Me too. Oh, Spain this summer. We went to Spain. It's like a meat fest there. Yeah. Yeah. So you're big on meat. I've always felt healthier.

It's funny for a brief time, I grew up in Berkeley. So for a brief time, I had to be a vegan. And I remember at one point and I was working out a ton and my body fat sits really low and it was double what it normally is. And I know because we were in a PhD program and we had to test all of our body fats. And I was like, what has happened here during my little trial in veganism? But I was so sick, sick all the time.

Wow. Yeah, so finally, but this one doctor who was a client of mine took my blood and he goes, you can either come into the hospital, check you in, or you can go eat a chicken. Is that bad? Damn. And I was doing all the things.

I was mixing all the things. I mean, I think you can do this if you're very committed, but it's a lot of work. You better be a very good food biochemist, and you need to supplement. Right. Brian Johnson's pulling it off, but he's got the money to be able to do that.

Yeah, but I still don't really understand why he's gone with that dogma. It doesn't make sense to me. What I love about Brian Johnson, first of all, is that he's sharing everything, but also that when you come down to it, what does he find out? Diet, exercise, sleep, relationships. Right. You know, sunshine, meditation. Well, yeah, just study the Blue Zones. They all do that, right? Yeah. Why would you try to do something else if it's already working? It's interesting when you look at the blue zones though

because first of all, I don't buy the the plant-based thing because You know if haven't seen in Italy where they're plant-based or Greece, you know It's like everyone does some dairy and some meats cured meats and that kind of stuff fish But I think with the blue zones when you really look at what are the common factors, it's not diet, diet isn't whole foods it is, they're not eating processed foods. But what it seems to be is that as you age, you have an elevated status in the community as an elder. Right, like you look at the US as you age,

you're considered, you get invisible, you're put into a home. You're like a liability at that point. Who's gonna take care of granny, right? But in the blue zones you're revered and you're active and you're still doing stuff. You're still, you know, these people all seem to live in hilly areas where they're walking around, right?

So I think it's the exercise, the community that make the biggest difference of all. I think you could probably eat a bunch of ultra processed food, but have an amazing community, have a purpose. And I'm not saying to do that, right? Well, that purpose is huge cuz they've done studies on brains when people retire and how fast they age. My dad died when he retired.

Right when he retired. It was like pretty closely afterwards. He always was talking about his ship coming in and you know, then the company sold and that's when everything went downhill. You know, then he retires and he's gone. Yeah, because not having that drive waking up every day like some of the work towards is. Can you imagine like what like I look at this, I go why would you want to retire? Yeah, I have so many things I'm I'm more interested in stuff now than I was 20 30 years ago 100% Yeah, and people face their whole lives around the retirement. Well, that's cuz they're doing something they hate Which is to me I?

Believe that we have choices in all of this and I don't think that comes from an entitled position I think that you know,, because I basically have earned everything that I've gotten from scholarship to college on down. But I think that you go and choose what you'd love to do. You can do that. And then whatever you're doing, like, go for it. Be the best at it, you know? You can monetize almost any passion these days

with social media. Like, you'll find people that are interested in what you're doing. I've seen them crazy things. Well, when I started, there was nothing, there was no career path in what I was doing at all. Like when I first started, I was teaching aerobics at an aerobics studio.

Someone wanted me to come to their house. I came to their house. I started helping people work out at their houses. Me, as far as I can tell, I've been talking to Mark about this, Mark Sisson and Body by Jake and me, I think, were the first personal trainers. Wow.

And then there wasn't anyone doing that. And then for nutrition, you had to be a dietician and work in a hospital. So it's like all the stuff, I just started doing it because that's what I wanted to do and I didn't want to have to wear a suit and go to an office and work nine to five. I knew that would suck the life out of me. Yeah You're one of the first trainers ever. That's crazy. That funny

Yeah, I thought that was had been around for a while for some reason eighties eighties. Wow, that is fascinating Yeah, now there's a whole new wave of biohackers and energy healing all this new stuff, right? Well energy healings a whole they've been around for a long, long, long, long, long, long time. Yeah, that's Eastern, yeah. But now it's coming to the Western, which is exciting. Thank God. I like Eastern philosophies. Yeah, well, when you think about, especially living in Asia,

it was quite eye-opening to how things are and how different it is. And so many of these things that we've done for hundreds, if not thousands of years, that all of a sudden they're like, there's not a clinical trial. It's like, well, you know. How arrogant. Yeah, these trials, man. This ozempic stuff is crazy to me.

Well, so I have a different thought on all of that. So first of all, it really depends on how you're looking at this. So I think GLP-1s, here's the reality. We are now over 70% of the population is overweight or obese. You could look at it and go, is it the ultra-processed foods? Is it the stress? Is it the sedentary lifestyle?

Because only 20% of American adults are meeting the CDC guidelines for exercise. And the CDC guidelines for exercise, come on. Those are the lowest end is it the toxins all these different things but we are where we're at and we're in a metabolic hole you have 93% of the population now who's considered metabolically unhealthy when you get to that point you get weight loss resistant where it's really hard for you to get out of that hole right

you're hungry all the time you can't access stirred fat for fuel, et cetera. Now you have, and if you've got fatty liver, if you've got insulin resistance, if you've got obesity, your chances of being GLP-1 deficient or GLP-1 resistant, just like if you become insulin resistant, are probably 100%. So you have a whole group of people who are insulin resistant, hungrier, right?

A lot of food noise. And now you can say, just exercise and eat less. I wish it could be that easy, but I think we have to give them a life raft to get them out of the hole. And the challenge with the Zembeck and Munjarah, all the different big pharma names for it is, they are taking a huge sledgehammer to hit an ant.

Instead of giving a little bit of a dose, just to leg up, just a little life raft, they're like sending in, you know, a big, huge military boat, right? So if we could use these things in small amounts and only use them if people are willing to, commit to, and track eating optimal protein, starting to move, now some of them can't lift weights. I'm working with someone who's 385 pounds.

They were like, just have them lift weights. I'm like, walking 3,000 steps a day is putting them over. Like, you know, so you have to just meet people where they are and give them some tools to get them through this. But if you have something that can turn off the food noise, improve insulin sensitivity, and drop the inflammation overnight,

and give them a little bit of a hand to get past it, if we'd use these correctly, it would be a game changer. The way we're using them is a problem. That makes sense, yeah, they're giving heavy doses. You get more of the micro dose approach. Without the guidance, without saying, hey, you know, like when I was on Freaky Eaters, we had a gal who'd had bariatric surgery

and she was addicted to ice cream bars. And we had like the craziest stuff. We had to give her, she was eating ice cream bars every hour, she'd wake up all night long to ice cream bars. And we had like the craziest stuff. We had to give her, she was eating ice cream bars every hour. She'd wake up all night long eating ice cream bars because because of her gastric bypass, she could only eat an ice cream bar an hour. That was her whole diet was crazy.

Why am I bringing this up with you? What was I talking about? How to get on the ice cream bars? The Ozempic? The Ozempic. I don't remember. Anyway. I didn't even know that was a show.

Freaky Eaters? Freaky Eaters, yeah. So it was just people eating freaky things? It was sort of like my strange addiction meets, oh God, what was that other show? A hoarders. Hoarders, wow. And it was people who were totally addicted

to a specific food, could not give that up. And so a lot of people who wrote in, it was french fries. were totally addicted to a specific food could not give that up and So a lot of people who wrote in it was french fries. Mm-hmm. There was also there was someone who was addicted to maple syrup He put it on everything there was someone who was addicted to cornstarch I mean just shit pica, but I mean just weird stuff. So it was me and a Psychologist dr. Mike Dow who would go in and intervene on this. It was before I understood really the whole TV contract deal. And I'd signed this deal and I was like ending up

in the craziest places like at a motel, like you know stuck for weeks and I go, please cancel this, get me out of this. Were you guys able to help any of them? Oh yeah. Oh yeah?? Oh yeah. Oh yeah? Yeah, yeah.

Some we could. Some probably needed a lot more help than that, but what we would basically do is shock therapy. Like the guy that had the maple syrup addiction, we took him to a dialysis unit and showed him what it would be like if you had. That's a lot of sugar, right? Oh my gosh.

Maple syrup on everything? Yeah, that's hundreds of grams of sugar a day probably Terrible damn. Yeah, I wonder if it's like trauma thing they get tied to a certain food So they just associate it with good memories There's so many different reasons this could be one of the things I was doing was genetic testing at the time just to see Like did they have the super taster gene what was going on? We had one guy who was addicted to raw meat. Here's the crazy thing. So we had one guy who would only eat meat,

one guy who was addicted to raw meat, and both of them had the best profiles for their blood. So I was like, you know, trying to make this case, I'm like, everything looks perfect here, you know? Like early carnivore diet. The only thing I could show is I did a parasite test. I did a whole gut microbiome. Not pretty at all. And that's my thing. I think diets can be amazing tools and you have to look at what are you doing,

why are you doing this diet, what's the outcome you're looking for, and then what's the next step? Because this might be something that's gonna help you get through like a food elimination process get rid of food allergies Whatever the thing is, but it won't be the thing you need to do long term Hmm like you might do I think the carnivore diets an amazing elimination diet And it shuts off a lot of the noise and takes out a lot of the decisions Right and then at some point come back in and let's get in some plants for the polyphenols in the fiber. Yeah.

How do you feel about fruits? I think berries are amazing. I think fruit's amazing. I'm not a fan of fruit juice. You basically unwrapped the fruit and made it a soda. I'm not a fan of dried fruit. You basically turned it into candy or syrup. But fresh fruit, frozen fruit, peaked at the height of season.

You still have to have fruit fruits not a free food. Yeah I've been I've been turning back on vegetables though. I used to eat a lot of vegetables But just like now they're finding heavy metals and all the stuff in them. It's like You're gonna find heavy metal So yeah, I'm in the supplement industry and we have to report heavy metals on shakes and things and it's like well If you went and outlined all the food You'd see that it's in everything which is why we need to be doing Detoxification on a regular basis. You know, so it's even in me and stuff too. Oh, yeah

You're gonna find it everywhere. Yeah, cuz it's in the soil, right? It's in the soil. It's in It's in all the different critters. So it's like wherever it is, whoever's got it, if it's in the soil, if it's in the plants, if it's in the algae, wherever it is, it's gonna come. So I don't know that you're gonna be able, I mean look at like swordfish and the amount of heavy metals, mercury and swordfish. I had to stop eating swordfish.

I stopped it years, that used to be my favorite thing I just love it and I cost my mom would never never touch it. I pretty much it's like wild salmon and halibut and scallops. Yeah, I just stopped tuna too. Yeah, I I literally got so there was a while I was traveling I was doing PBS shows and I saw I was taking the little Asceptic pack tuna because it was like one of the ways to get quick protein on the road. And I jacked my mercury levels. I could see that.

That happened to Tony Robbins too. I think he was eating a lot of sushi. He almost had mercury poisoning. He might've had mercury poisoning. He did. Yeah, he did. Yeah, I used to eat sushi all the time. There's sushi buffets.

I know because it's so easy. You know, so easy and healthy and simple. It tastes so good. And I love because it's so easy. Yeah. You know, so easy and healthy and simple. It tastes so good. And I love wasabi. Fresh wasabi, though. Fresh wasabi. Not the fake stuff. Oh, yeah, no.

That's disgusting. Yeah, that fake ball stuff. No, no, no, no. Gross. People don't even know real wasabi. But just fresh wasabi. And I would just do hand rolls with fresh wasabi and fish and seaweed.

That's it. No worries. Yeah, I love that's it, no worries. Love that. Well, JJ, what are you working on next and where can people find you? I am working on my powerful aging book. That is my big, big thing that I'm totally fired up about.

Is it out yet or? In my podcast, it's not. That's gonna be a year out. Right now we're doing the case studies, so we have people going through the program, I'm training coaches in it, I'm working on a brand new product line around it. Everything so that women especially will lift weights, build their muscle, age powerfully instead of greasy.

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