Digital Social Hour - Champtgram On Luke Belmar, Quitting Alcohol & Beating Depression | DSH #197

Episode Date: December 25, 2023

On today's episode of Digital Social Hour, we sit down with Champtgram to discuss why he doesn't buy material objects even though he lives in Miami, what he's learned from Luke Belmar and what he has learned interviewing over 100 millionaires. APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://forms.gle/qXvENTeurx7Xn8Ci9 BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] SPONSORS: HelloFresh: Free breakfast for life at https://www.HelloFresh.com/dshfree with code dshfree Opus Pro: https://www.opus.pro/?via=DSH Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What made you go all in on health at such a young age? Because most people in their 20s just ignore it. Whenever I made my first million dollars, I got super cocky. As I tried to sustain wealth and actually run my business online, I slowly started to crumble, right? Sort of reverse engineer and like fix all these things that if I had just taken care of them in the first place, I think none of this would have happened.

Ladies and gentlemen, we got champ on the show today how's it going brother i'm doing well thanks for having me bro yeah it's good to see you again i haven't seen you since new york yeah dude that was a good event by the way not bad yeah it was great you did a great job yeah something about just meeting people and you know the value of this masterminds networking really elevates you to do better dude absolutely and it's something that i think people don't understand but you would understand this, right? That literally if I spend $10,000 to go travel to some city and stay in a nice place and meet people, the ROI on those dollars is higher than almost anything else that I could do. Like traveling the world and meeting people

will make you significantly wealthier. And this idea that you can get all of your information from the internet and be prepared to crush it in business and in every other area is s**t. Am I allowed to say that? Yeah. It's s**t. Because any information that you're consuming on the internet has already been discussed in person somewhere and then sort of circulated to you via the algorithm. So I get a ton of value out of just like traveling the world and meeting people. It's where I've gotten basically all the ideas that I've ever had had that's a good point because if you're learning it on the internet

it's been regurgitated you're a little late to the show for the most part yeah and it reminds me of those kids that like tried hard in school but there's no value there yeah 100 no and so people will look at you know someone like you traveling the world and meeting all these people like oh my god he's spending so much money but those dollars give you a massively high ROI yeah and it's a write-off like it's a business right yeah and it's a write-off but but the whole point that I'm trying to make is yeah like if the only information that you were consuming is from you know Twitter and YouTube like this is information that other people have already known anymore this is no longer alpha this is beta and the only way to get like true fresh ideas and be ahead of the curve is to travel

the world meet people in real life. Yeah, and your network has been growing like crazy the past year, I'd say, right? Absolutely, yeah. You've met Justin Waller, Colin Yersison, Belmar, huge people. What would you say keeps those guys in your circle? Because everyone's trying to get in these circles.

100%. So this is a really good question. I think people have a misconception about like how to network, right? So whenever people think of the room that they want to get into with other people that they want to meet, they think that the way to get into this room is to come up, try and pry the door open. They get a foot in the door and they try and shove it all the way open and force themselves into these rooms.

When in reality, the most efficient way to get into these rooms that you want to be in is to walk up to the door, knock on the door and leave something of value and begin walking away. And if you have left something of enough value to the people in that room, they're going to pick it up and they're going to call you back into that room and they're going to invite you in there. And if you cannot leave something on that doorstep valuable enough to get invited in, then you are not ready to be in those rooms, right? And the thing that you need to do is work on yourself until you are deserving of belonging in those circles. And you can do it faster than you think, right? Like it's not,

you know, some terrible hard thing, but people want to do everything other than like, hey, maybe the reason I don't hang out with these people is because I can't provide anything of value to them. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. You're big on that self-help, the self-improvement. What made you go all in on health at such a young age?

Because most people in their 20s just ignore health. Dude, to be honest, whenever I made my first million dollars, I got super cocky, right? Because I had done it while still working my little salary job. I was not taking care of myself. I was barely hitting the gym. I wasn't eating well. I was drinking, partying all the time, doing all these things that I used to do. And I was able to still make a decent amount of money. So in my head, I'm thinking like, oh, like I was right. Like all these gurus or whatever saying you have to do cold plunges and meditate or lying like i got this and then what happened was that like slowly over the course of the next six or seven

months as i tried to sustain wealth and actually run my business online and grow my net worth i slowly started to crumble right and the pressure began mounting more and more and more and because i wasn't equipped to handle. And because I wasn't equipped to handle these things, because I wasn't really investing in myself and taking care of my own health, things started to fall apart, right? Like I started experiencing more and more negative emotion. My businesses started to fall apart to the point where I almost actually lost like a large sum of my money. A lot of bad things started happening. And then I had to like... Shout out to today's sponsor, HelloFresh. HelloFresh makes whipping up home-cooked meals

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like dude alex ramos he was a fitness trainer before he did this right like one of his first businesses was selling diet plans like that's not a coincidence you know what i mean yeah um and these things go hand in hand right so it's really just like this realization as i started to fall to pieces that like these are all connected these are all the same thing i can't do one without the other and it made my life like a hundred million times better i can't believe i was ever like living another way yeah no absolutely because you get used to it right so it wasn't until i took a health test i saw my testosterone was kind of low i was was like, whatever, I'm used to it. But then once I raised it, dude, I'm so much more energized. Well, dude, you know what Gary Brekka said to me

whenever we were in Spain at Capital Club? He was like, dude, you don't understand. He was talking to me about whenever he fixed Dana White's health and Dana was like, oh my God, Gary, I feel amazing. And he was like, no, you don't feel amazing. You just feel normal yeah right so the this idea that people are walking around at like 30 40 50 of their true normal is really interesting right and it's and it's crazy because all you have to do to feel comparatively amazing

but literally just like normal is just do you know normal healthy human things yeah people over complicate it yeah like you take maybe five pills all natural pills lift sauna it's not too hard no it's not it's really not that complicated and and uh really cool thing is not like it's not a ton of things you have to do it's really just like a short list of things that you need to not do right so you think about something like fasting for example right like the magic of this is literally a lot like all you do is just not eat just do nothing right like or you just don't go out and get f***ed up every single like it's you literally just do nothing and your body will thank

you you know what i mean so i i agree people over complicate it absolutely and you just wrote a five-page paper about meeting 100 millionaires, some takeaways you learned from them. What were some of the biggest things you've learned? Yeah, absolutely. It's funny. Whenever you meet more and more high net worth individuals, and I should preface this by saying that whenever I started really focusing on content and I started meeting all these people,

I would get kind of like nervous for these conversations. And the number one thing that I learned that I would say to any single person listening to this is that like, dude, they're just people like all of these people are just people that have 24 hours in their day, just like you and I do. And really the only thing that differentiates them from you,

if you are not where you want to be, is the decisions that they are making. And the only reason they're making better decisions than you is because they have access to better information and have better habits, right? So another one of the biggest takeaways that I had is again about health, right? Like, so I started meeting all these people that were making way more money than me, that were absolutely crushing it online. And I met like 10 or i met like 10 or 20 of these people and all of them had pretty diligent morning routines and like

all of them were into fitness right and all of them were doing all these practices that i used to like write off as like oh i shouldn't do this right and literally if you go look at when i started uh posting these interviews and meeting these people to now, and you literally look at the direct correlation of what I looked like now, like it's written all over my body. You know what I mean? Were you overweight? Yeah. I mean, I posted a tweet about this. Like I posted a tweet about this yesterday.

I was like skinny fat. Right. So I was a really skinny kid my whole life growing up and then i was and then i ate very unhealthy and was drinking a lot as well from the time i was like 17 years old to 22 um so it's like the the worst combination right so it's like small legs kind of small arms but also kind of you know what i mean just not how you want to be and now you're only drinking uh reverse osmosis water hey dude if you if you drink the reverse osmosis water, you got to remineralize, bro. Put a little bit of pink Himalayan salt.

But here's a hack that people don't know. People think that buying spring water is super expensive. And it can be, right? If you order these packs of glass bottle Aquapana water, you're spending like $50 a week on water. But actually, there's this company called Mountain and i'm not sponsored but there's this company called mountain valley have you heard of them wait is that the one with the deer on it yeah yeah it's called mountain valley spring water and they deliver everywhere inside the u.s and if you go to their website and you fill out their contact form you can get in an email thread with one of their

reps who will uh who essentially like fulfills water for businesses but you can basically just like buy a business water subscription and they will just deliver these massive multi-gallon jugs of pure spring water to your apartment for like super cheap every single month if you don't want to buy the reverse osmosis filter like do and it's literally like it's it's super inexpensive yeah i need that i only drink i not only because when you're limited but i try to drink out of glass yeah dude i mean when you're in a big city like this you're out here in vegas like you're meeting people all the time you're at events you don't want to be that guy you don't want to be that guy and you're not and you don't want to like literally like

water is very important so you don't want to like literally starve your body yeah but the plastic stuff dude the microplastics it's it's nasty dude especially and especially out here in the desert dude like they're transporting this in on trucks it's probably hot before it's cold you know what i mean so it's leaching into the water and when you microwave leftovers even all those microplastics 100 yeah dude it's uh it's crazy i had i ordered room service to the uh i had room service this morning at the cosmo uh i got like steak and eggs and omelet and like a juice yeah first of all it's like 120 bucks second of all um yeah it was like cafeteria food it's hard sounds like the cosmo yeah it's hard dude it's hard yeah so what do you spend your money on i know you're not really materialistic at all yeah i mean i it you were talking about

the watch whenever i came in but this is different because these beat inflation. Yeah. What I spend money on is like the vehicle that got me here, right? So I live in Miami now, right? And you talk about vehicles. Everybody wants the Urus. Everybody wants the Rolls Royce. You have Wes Watson driving around, 21 supercars, right? Those are the vehicles that are coveted by the average individual right i choose to spend 99 of my money on the vehicle that got me here which is me like my mind and body right so i talk about this all the time i i posted on twitter the other day like what the

groceries are 500 because i i mean i ordered like a from whole foods a pretty big order of like large organic foods and everybody in my twitter comments was like what the like 500 in groceries like what is wrong with you but it's like okay but my body and mind are what got me here yeah right it's what's going to continue to propel me forward and it's literally the most important thing in my entire life is what i consume right so so that's what's important to me right or for example um when people find out how much i'm spending on rent to have an oceanfront you know big apartment in miami right they are like what the f**k spending all this money but you know okay i really prioritize my morning routine i like to see sunlight first thing in the morning whenever i go practice breath work and i do everything that

i do when i wake up and that to me is worth it. Right. So if we're talking a difference of a few thousand dollars, um, I see that as like a multimillion dollar ROI and how much better I'm going to feel and how much more productive I'm going to be and how much more motivated I'm going to be to execute on these ideas that at least thus far have made me a decent amount of money. You know what I mean? So it's like, it's not expensive. Your priorities are just f***ed, right? Like if you think $300 on groceries at Whole Foods is too expensive,

but you're going out to the club every weekend and you're spending hundreds of dollars drinking and you order Taco Bell off Uber Eats for $50 when they deliver it to our place. Like, no, it's not too expensive. Your pyramid of priorities is just f***ed up. And the reality is that like if you can afford to eat healthy foods and consume healthy ingredients without literally spending your last dollar you can afford it absolutely i used to cheap out on health which was so but yeah now there's certain

things you don't cheap out on yeah health is definitely one of them it's the it's the number one right and people have this thing where they're like i think people think that food is like a big part of their health like it is your health like the only way to increase the quality of your outputs is to increase your inputs and you're literally made up of what you eat yeah so anyway so this is it's not supposed to be like a health no no you're good so we've talked about taking care of the body now i want to talk about making money yeah um you've been able to make millions online how do you navigate the online scene find good opportunities to monetize yeah that's a really good question.

So I think the most important lesson for me was that most opportunities are distractions in disguise. And somebody who speaks brilliantly about this is Alex Ramosi, you've probably heard him talk about like the season of no. Yeah, yeah. So this thing starts to happen when you start making money online

where people are going to start coming to you all the time with this opportunity, you're like, "'Hey, come out to this city,' or, "'Let's do this and let's do this.'" And especially whenever you just made your first little bit of money, it's really tempting because you don't want these people to stop hitting you up. Like, oh, if I don't go, they're not gonna like me anymore.

You know what I mean? Like, oh, if I don't help him with this, he's not gonna like me anymore. But the reality is that like, if you get distracted by all these little opportunities and you don't execute on your big goals you are eventually going to lose the money you're going to lose the status and these people who you wasted your time on aren't even going to want to hang out with you anymore anyway but if you can focus in on the core objectives and the things that got you there in the first place and say no to these people for a while if you accomplish what you plan on accomplishing

with those main goals you're going to continue to ascend in money and status and those same people i promise are like are still going to want to hang out you know what i mean so it's when it comes to finding opportunities it's very hard not to get distracted right but like i mean do you want me to talk about like what industries i'm interested in yeah 2024 what's your plan are you going in on ai newsletters what are you seeing yeah so it's funny you bring up newsletters have you had brett on the podcast that's the founder of beehive no no brett like brett malinowski oh yeah yeah okay before he got into them yeah yeah yeah so brett's been really big on on newsletters recently and i actually had him come speak to my mastermind community.

He was like, you know, Champ was telling me he's starting a newsletter like a year ago. And I was like, that's so stupid. Now everybody is big on newsletters. So I wouldn't say I'm focusing on, I mean, I wouldn't say I'm focusing on my newsletter like as a business, but I'm focusing really, really heavily on email and collecting emails. Why? Well, I have seen 10, 20, 30, 40 of my friends get banned from Instagram and Twitter and TikTok in the last year or so. And the reality is that if you're only big on one platform, you're f***ed because these are privately owned companies and they can take that away from you at any minute

right and truthfully the only way to own these leads and own your audience um is to have their emails and i know it's kind of weird to like say the word leads for audience but the reality is this dude like if you were an entrepreneur and a creator like i am a youtuber and a content creator but i also own two businesses right like Like your audience is your leads, right? Like if you're not running paid ads, you're getting organic traffic from the content that you create, right? Which is why it's very important to align your content with the businesses that you run

and why I wouldn't just go start like, you know, a new dropshipping business. But yeah, I'm going super big on email. You see a lot of people doing the same thing, right? Like just being able to capture my, you know, like being able to capture and really resonate with and get closer to my audience. I've gotten really, really amazing feedback actually.

Like I didn't think anyone would really care whenever I started growing this free newsletter and sending out all of these like different hacks and things that I've learned in the past two years yeah but it turns out that it like really really resonates and like the we've had i have over 50 uh open rate and people are emailing me back every single day like hey man i tried this like hey man i tried this so i think it uh like my not to sound like corny but my my really my core focus is just like remaining authentic to what i am good at and the unique value that i can provide to the world which is i mean essentially just like

telling the story of how in in a year and a half i went from like a four thousand dollar net worth working a job to doing over three million dollars in revenue and everything that i've learned uh from having the great pleasure of of meeting a lot of the youtubers and creators that a lot of my audience also you know watches but can't actually get in contact with you're conversing with these guys one-on-one right people don't have access to that right yeah what was that shitty job you were working at i was doing i was doing software sales oh yeah so my yeah my first uh hard skill was sales. And I actually like, if I was starting over from zero, that is the skill that I would learn 100% sales

because you need it. Like if you want to make money online, you have to sell people something. So even if I go learn copywriting, if I go learn whatever it is that I learn, I'm then going to still have to sell that service to people online. You know what I mean?

So it's like, you might as well kind of get that one out of the way. Yeah. And I also think that high ticket sales is the easiest path for any 16, 17, 18 year old kid watching this to get to $10,000 a month. Easily, dude. I've paid out six figure salaries to high ticket closers for me that are college kids. Dude, and it's so funny you say that because I posted okay i posted an instagram reel about this today like literally like hey if i was trying to go from zero to ten thousand dollars a month here's what i

would do right and i talked about the fact that i would go watch free youtube videos to learn sales right i would make a list of a hundred influencers who are selling offers sean kelly would be one of them um and then i would cold dm all 100 of those influencers or more offering to sell their offers for zero upfront dollars and 10 to 20% commission and I immediately had people in my comments like oh that's not the way it works bro it is the way it works I would know because I have people closing for me and all day because there's no risk on our end we're not paying anything up front so yeah I'll let you try it yeah why would i not right like and instead of going and starting another short form agency and dming me hey man i'll make you uh 10 shorts for free for one week just like the hundred other kids that dm me that

every single day if you can if you can come to somebody like me or sean or anybody who's selling offers and be like hey i can sell for you and literally make you money at no additional cost why why wouldn't they say yes and you would be surprised how many influencers there are out there with big names you could easily make a lot of money selling for that really need help like they really need help because all influencers want to be entrepreneurs now and vice versa yeah so i think it's the easiest way absolutely you plan on staying in miami for a bit yeah dude i like it a lot i just resigned for a year i mean it's uh i mean you go to miami right i like miami i don't know if i could live there because i got a girl i feel like it's a good spot to be single at why do you say that it's miami bro let's be real yeah i mean you got distractions

out there yeah you know i'm out there with my girl, right? Like, I brought her out there. We live together. And there are a lot of distractions. But at the same time, like, I feel like, for example, like, even before I lived here, when I lived in Austin, I lived, like, right on top of 6th Street where all the, like, party stuff is. Yeah. Like, dude, if you can't move to a city like Miami, you live in Vegas. If you can't move to a city like Miami or Vegas and like, oh, I can't not go to the casino. Like, oh, my God, I can't not go. Like, bro. Yeah.

Like if you have some modicum of self-control, it's not really that hard. Now, I'll tell you what I don't like that much about Miami is even 60 floors off the ground, I hear the 100 supercar engines being revved per hour. And I hear people laying on their horns every two seconds because driving in Miami is like literally driving in a third world country. Like my girl, like I don't even know why I'm paying for a parking spot at our building. She will not drive in Miami. So I don't really like that either. But dude, when it comes to connections, like when it comes to business and the fact that

it's an international city, like anybody that you want to connect with is going to have a layover in Miami. One hundred percent. So I don't even have to leave. Yeah, no, it's one of the biggest things for success is being in a successful area. Dude. Yeah. And it's like one of those things where if I was still in the city that I grew up in,

driving, if I was still in the city that I grew up in driving the car that I have, which is not like an insane car. I have a Tesla Model X Plaid. So it's like, it's less than $200,000. Okay, okay. And I was in Tulsa where I grew up, Tulsa, Oklahoma. I'd be like the only one, right? Yeah.

People would see the doors open and be like you know what i mean i go to miami bro seen that i'm broke no literally like in a tesla i'm broke like i i pull up to valet at my building every single day and it's literally like ferrari it's literally you know rolls royce like oh wes watson just pulled up in his matte pink uh Rolls Royce you know what I mean oh timepiece trades is sf90 is revving it you know what I mean like it's everywhere like you live in Miami I could literally go buy a bust down ap for 250 grand right now buy a wide body Novatec Lamborghini Urus and pull it up to valet my building and nobody would give a f**k like it doesn doesn't even matter. So it's one of those things where it's like, I actually, you don't even want it anymore. And you sort of like begin to realize what's important,

but at the same time, right, it reminds you how much more wealth and success is out there. And even though I'm not like an extremely materialistic person right like I don't really have any desire to spend a million dollars on a car yeah I still look at that and I'm reminded of the fact that there are people who can do that responsibly and not bat an eye and I'm like okay time to keep working use of motivation yeah yeah that makes sense so out of all the interviews you've done you've had on some animals on the show which one are you don't have to say just one but which ones really stand out to you i mean dude so a couple obviously like all the i've had luke luke belmar on the channel three times he's a good friend of mine and every

single time that he comes on the channel i mean we have just really really really good discussion you talk about somebody um who is a thinker right uh somebody who prioritizes lifestyle health body and mind right outside of money great example um somebody i consider a a pretty good friend of mine and who i'm sure will be back on the channel again. Dan Coe was an amazing guest. He gave me essentially a breakdown of how to scale from zero to $100,000 a month with info products because it's not that hard. People can sometimes say that. It's not that hard. And so Dan Coe was a great episode uh justin waller was

really good because he's just like a he's just a cool guy he's genuine dude six seven dude he might have been taller than me now that you said that yeah it was you yeah you had him on right he had the mustache on the episode yeah he did he grew it up yeah talk about it like a true working man right who actually made a large sum of money doing a non-business so right 20 million a year or something crazy right crazy with construction so he put his time in man until he was what like 35 until he he really figured it out so tons of respect for jay waller of course uh jordan welsh was a a banger episode a sleeper episode I shot that one out in Switzerland with Luke and the guys nice I mean

everyone's been good like Sebastian Georgiou and Sebastian Esqueda two good friends of mine and both of them I mean I think that people actually like sleep on just how much like detailed value these people are coming on my channel and just like saying for free

and I have a couple coming up too that I'm detailed value these people are coming on my channel and just like saying for free yeah um and i have a couple coming up too that i i'm really excited for and i could say it because this won't be out for a bit yeah well i know it's i don't it's not that i don't want to say because i don't want to spoil it it's that i don't want to say it out loud because i don't want to jinx it um but a a big objective of mine and in one of the and i will say this because it hold me accountable and one of the reasons why i moved to miami um is to is to actually break into like the mainstream youtube space right because when you're in my situation and you get on the and you get on the elevator uh and you know once a week you end up writing with Bradley Martin and the Full Sin guys.

And of course, I'm not just fanning out and being like, hey guys, you should come on the YouTube. But when you're in a situation where you're around these people all the time and they become very humanized, you can't help but think like, I can get there, right? And you think about where I was like a year ago, like this little niche content creator in this emerging digital market that like 99% of the world still doesn't give a f**k about. Which you were a huge player in too, right? Web3, yeah.

Yeah. And then you think about where I am now and think about the fact that everybody who I told that I was going to sort of make the transition and everybody in my comments for the first six months of me posting non-crypto content was like, what the are you doing? Like, okay, the next logical step is like,

how do I break into the mainstream? And not because I think that it's going to make me a bunch of money right like actually a lot of the largest creators have trouble monetizing their audience because they're largely like kids you know what i mean and there are their cpm suck yada yada but just because like i i feel like i can do it with sort of the rolodex that i have and just like the, the level of content that I've started to create. So for sure. No, you're pulling in serious numbers already, man. Yeah, man. So knock on wood, right? Like some of the guests that I have coming on in the, in the near term.

And of course, like I'm not a podcast channel. I have a show called the 100K shows, my podcast, that's part of my channel. But you know i'm gonna lean really heavily into as well just like being authentic in myself because what's really funny is like i i spent like uh like a year trying to create all like trying to figure out like the scientific formula like how do i you know how do i create content that people will like right so so i'm i'm taking notes and i'm studying all these other creators i'm looking at the thumbnails i'm looking at the titles like oh i have to go interview a bunch of rich people. No, that didn't do well.

Oh my God, I have to only do podcasts with all these big people. Well, that helped. And then one day I was like, what if I literally just get on camera and just talk about exactly what I am doing, how I changed my life and what I would say to my younger self. And then all of a sudden, people started being like, "'Wow, this is a really good video.'" And I was like, oh, maybe this is what I should have been

doing the whole time, you know what I mean? So- I think it's relatable, right? Yeah, and I'm not, you know what I mean? I'm not a guru, dude. I sell info products. What's your product? Well, so I run two businesses.

You know about Champs Only, I think. Yeah, the past. Yeah, which is now a subscription-based crypto trading community. Still one of the biggest on the internet right now, or I should say the biggest being tracked by our payment processor. And that's an area that I will never not be a part of. As a matter of fact,

like I'm still very actively investing in working with teams mostly pre ICO projects right now that I really, really believe in on sort of the Web3 and crypto side of things. But the second business that I started about four months ago is called Off The Grid. And what I launched three and a half months ago was my inner circle, which was essentially like a 50 person prototype for like what happens if I create a high ticket offer where I let

50 people come join a super tight knit group of myself and other entrepreneurs. I get on calls with them and help them solve business, excuse me, and help them solve problems with their content creation, with their online businesses, with their health, with their everything, right? Like I literally just get on calls and answer any questions that they have about anything that I've learned over the past year and a half. And what if I also make it really interesting and start calling on my really massive Rolodex of friends who have scaled their businesses past $100,000 per month, who don't do consulting calls, who don't have any one-on-one offers. And because they're friends of mine, I can just call them to

come do weekly guest sessions for these 50 people too, give them direct access sort of all under the principle of like there are all these sort of expensive courses right and all these different like I call it lipstick on a pig type offers where it's like shot with these beautiful cameras yeah and marketed incredibly and then you kind of get nothing out of it and it's like what if I sort of flipped out on its head and i just started pouring as much of my time um as i can into 50 you know entrepreneurs um and people who are trying to level up in every way and also called in all of my smart friends to help me with it and um and we do a number of other stuff things too but i'm not we did an ire relevant this isn't supposed to be like a it's not a sales pitch for

my offer point is ran that for three months uh we did a few thousand bucks per head and over half of those uh guys and girls immediately opted back in when given a chance wow brought like an additional 10 referrals from my instagram stories we we brought in another uh 10 11 people thus far i haven't posted that many so i went from thinking i was going to have to launch applications for this thing again to like we're almost full again. And so like at its essence, it's a mastermind group, but like I don't want to just think of it as another mastermind. Like this is essentially like me taking everything that I've learned

in the past two years going from like literally broke to a few million dollars in revenue and calling on all of my friends so you can't access anywhere else yeah and just pouring all that information into a really heavily vetted um an exclusive group of of people and it's worked out pretty well thus far that is like the inner circle within this larger business called off the grid and we have a number of new offers launching as well love it um at a lower price point that i think uh are going to blow people's mind that i think are going to change the game as far as like value for people who are aspirational who want to change their lives who want to make money on the internet but

don't know sort of where to start or what business to start. And yeah, dude, I just think it's cutting edge, right? Because I'm on here. Like it's not, you know what I mean? I don't have some fancy mission statement. It's not rocket science. Yeah, I don't have a fancy, like I don't have a complex sales team, right?

It's really like no, like when people ask me when I get so many DMs every day, like, dude, how are you making money? Like, what do you do for a living yeah um and it's like i i just live as uh fruitful and healthy and productive a life as possible i document that process and give it to people who want to work closely with me um and that generates a lot of revenue for my business and subsequently helps these people make a lot of money.

So I don't know. I don't have like a five-word mission statement. You know what I mean? But what I do see is you're good at connecting the dots. Right. So when you have that ability, which I consider a high-income skill, I think Dan Fleischman's probably the best person I personally know that does it.

He has four masterminds bringing in over 20 million a year yeah i mean when you have that ability to connect people and help them make more money together that's a high income skill dude people don't realize people don't realize how much money you can make from introducing smart people to other smart people so much it's one of the most lucrative businesses literally and it's really cool because it's not you the most lucrative businesses literally and it's really cool because it's not you don't have to posture yourself as somebody who like i i don't know everything i don't know everything i have a couple of like really high income skills that i'm very good at but there's a lot of that i don't know i don't know everything but i know someone who

knows everything and that's my superpower you know what i mean yeah you're one degree maybe two max away from someone. Right. Yeah, I'd say I'm in a similar boat. 100, dude, you're like the most, you're the best networker I know, it's crazy. The group chat, yeah. And I did it with ERC, which did well.

Now I'm doing it with health insurance and we'll see how it goes. You do so much. But dude, it's been fun. Anything you wanna close off with? Yeah, no, I mean, I appreciate you having me. What do I wanna close off with? Yeah, no. I mean, I appreciate you having me. What do I want to close off with? It's possible, right?

And the life of your dreams is way closer than you think it is. And as a matter of fact, it's not hidden behind a bunch of really hard things that you have to start doing. It's hidden behind a couple of simple things that you need to start doing. So stop making excuses

and actually try. That's ours. Appreciate you having me, bro. Thanks for coming on, brother. Thanks for watching, guys, as always. And I'll see you tomorrow. Peace.