Digital Social Hour - Conquering Child Predators: An Intriguing Discussion with Glenn Devitt | Digital Social Hour #47

Episode Date: July 14, 2023

Prepare yourselves for a deep dive into a tempest of bravery and heroism like no other! Wayne & Sean pull back the curtain in this riveting episode, to welcome guest, Glenn Devitt - CEO and founder of the Sentinel Foundation. With the Sentinel Foundation, Glenn does the unthinkable. He goes undercover, in a tangle of evil most of us dare not dwell upon, child trafficking. Using special operations daredevilry, they warp fear into the hearts of the predators. Let's keep it real here, folks - listening to this podcast is your way of standing with those fighting this cruel evil. But, brace yourselves, as Glenn swaps his heroic cape for his scientific coat. Get ready to understand the magic behind Alcohol Armor, an innovative anti-hangover formula that not only prevents you from spiraling into a realm of hangover blues but also funds the tireless efforts of the Sentinel Foundation. Fascinating, isn't it? Stay tuned to explore more about Glenn's passionate commitment to eradicating the evil of child trafficking, and surviving the mental torment that such highly challenging, undercover operations entail. You’ll also discover the ingenious plan Glenn initiated to squeeze the scourge of suicide, and how he used his expertise towards making a positive difference. You won't want to miss this riveting deep-dive into the mind of a man who has battled evil at its rawest and saved lives. This remarkable tale of courage, resilience, and innovation is waiting for you right now. So what are you waiting for? Press that play button and immerse yourself in an unforgettable episode filled with awe-inspiring insights, chilling recounts, and profound revelations! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/digitalsocialhour/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How hard is it on you mentally dealing with the child traffic? Look, I struggled for years. You can't even talk to a therapist about it, right? Because it would mess them up if I explained what I saw. Damn. Are you able to sort of identify child predators just off looks? Predators put themselves around prey. I want to hunt these individuals.

I want to create as much fear in the world and their market. We are very proficient. We're 100% successful in every operation we go on. Whoa. in the world in their market. We are very proficient. We're 100% successful in every operation we go on. Welcome back to the Digital Social Hour. I'm your host, Sean Kelly. Here with my co-host, Wayne Lewis. What up, what up? And our guest today, Glenn Devitt. What's going on, man? Man, how you doing? In the building. Doing well. I mean, in Las Vegas. Can't complain. Yeah. You out here for the weekend?

One day. Oh, just one day? I got in last night. I gotta leave. I gotta fly out to San Diego. Oh, San Diego. Oh, San Diego. Nice. Man, so people watching, because you've been low-key. Can you tell people your journey? Oh, yeah. It's a story for sure. So Glenn Devitt, the CEO and founder of the Sentinel Foundation, which is a child rescue organization. We basically go undercover against traffickers and rescue kids from child sex slavery around the world.

We're kind of a fine-fix asset for law enforcement. So we all have a former fine-fix asset for law enforcement so we take we all have a former high-level special operations capability so we take that capability down to a child crime investigation fight so we've been extremely successful i do a bunch of other things but yeah that entrepreneur uh the founder of alcohol armor so we are a different you know not an nonprofit really is where we're doing for-profit things to then help fund our nonprofit passions. What is Alcohol Armor? Man, I created this working undercover, like getting banged up with cartels and trying to fly a drone or tag a vehicle or track them in these third-world countries after you were drinking the whole night with them.

We had a comment with like an anti-hangover formula and so i have a doctor in google i had a background in hacking and intelligence and i just started putting different supplements together to take while you drink and so it's basically a performance answer and removes the toxins wow so yeah it prevents the toxins before it happens so it's a whole different market do you still get the buzz oh yeah you still get the buzz yeah like i mean the fda will crush me if i say like yeah like no you still you still maintain the level. Yeah. You just, it, that just the science behind it, right? Like alcohol goes through your small intestines. Yeah. You know, being in the military, I had my stomach pumped three times.

So like, I mean, we drink heavily, but the, I knew charcoal was a key ingredient. So from that experience, we put charcoal in it, we souped up the vitamins and we souped up your liver and your brain. So we put a bunch of different supplements together. I hired a chemist. It's much redneck science yeah and the chemist was like hey how do you how'd you come up with this and we told him i was like i was drunk one night googled kudu's root and that's what the japanese gave back in the 1700s so like put that you know put that in there and uh yeah it kind of worked out well like surprisingly the first night i drank

it uh i had no hunger i probably drank like 700 dollars worth of vodka sodas just to really test the limit and i woke up the next day feeling great so i was like all right we have to you know fully invest in this and so by doing that we then fund our non-profit you know it's i'm not out there selling sandals to raise money for awareness we had no social media footprint until recently where i came public with the story but we've been doing it since 2014 so Wow so how hard is it on you mentally dealing with the child trafficking are you actually on those yeah I mean I've been since you actually go yeah I've been on 20 plus operations in 12 countries I mean a lot of different countries it takes its own you right that is the hardest part when I first got out you want to like

the guys up bad i mean i have a bunch of savages on my team i'm a captain of a pirate ship you know like these guys are like the tom brady of killing people they they did this for a living yeah i mean these guys have smoke checked a lot of people around the world and then you know like i stand on the shoulders of legends so our teams and what they've accomplished it's american history right right by bringing where we come from the special mission unit at fort bragg yeah consolidate that team together and said we are very proficient we're 100 successful every operation we go on ongoing problem in in in our world now you know so and you're just dealing with international so you're dealing with sometimes y'all getting shootouts and everything i mean we're not not gonna we're not getting shootouts

you know we're like we have we have to give up that side of it but i mean we partner with the law enforcement in these third world countries like i've been to haiti a bunch you know before the president assassinated you know we spent a lot of time in south america asia and so we'll work directly side by side with them and you teach them you train them you assist them through operations and then we're working there right if you're working in Asia, you can't like the local Thai police cannot play undercover. They can't go and infiltrate that trafficking network. So they need gringos, white guys to come in because that's the majority. You know, like older, middle aged white guys are a lot of the people that are traveling to have sex.

And so, I mean, I got guys at 37 years CIA, 77 know, 77 years old and he's still now doing this job. Right. So you can really we destroy networks when we go in. That's crazy. And what started your passion for this? Yeah. So back in 14, I got medically retired for my neck and back. And I kind of kind of Iraq work kind of pissed me off because I felt like it was a bullshit war. I lost a lot of friends. shouldn't have been there and so I had this resentment for there so I was like I want something it's very black and white and not great war is very gray anywhere you go that anyone's been a war doesn't want to send

anybody to war and I was like children you know helping the helpless that was the thing and I said just googled it and it wasn't a lot of organizations back in what was this 2014 but I found a special program called the hero core which is human exploitation rescue operative and they teach you you have to go unpaid for a year so i had to leave the defense world that was getting a high paying salary to go unpaid for a year and they teach you about computer forensics digital forensics and they teach you about the mindset behind pedophiles and why they exploit children and trafficking so they brought world renowned experts in and it was like once you know you know, you see the worst of the worst, you had to watch the

worst of the worst. And I was like, I want to hunt these individuals. I want to create as much fear in the world and their market, right? Cause that's what it is. It's, it's the market. And so if they're not being hunted, if they're not being caught, then they just, you know, go freely. And so that's our mission is to create as much fear by working with law enforcement. They have the hardest job, right? They are a fine fix fix we're not the messiahs we're not the jason bournes we're there taking our experience our knowledge and bringing it to the law enforcement you became really good at studying human psychology so are you able to sort of identify child predators just off looks you i mean we do play spot the pedophile right like it's just it's just like you go to a

playground you're like he's probably like kids around and he's playing with him yeah i'm like that guy pedophile you know we do that like i'm right majority of the time wow um but i have a background in human intelligence so the government trained me on exploitation on social engineering on really manipulation uh and really building that persona because i will have to be who you want me to be right to be that person to make you comfortable and so you get you get pretty good you can't say 100 but you know that predators put themselves around prey right that's why you'll see doctors you'll see teachers you'll see you know non you know non-profits that have these individuals that are working with you

they embed themselves there, right? And so we have to use this as best we can with technology. We have some big things on the horizon. Over the next few weeks, we're going to make some announcements where we're taking a huge step in the right direction of consolidating a lot of experts in the field under one flag. That's going to make an impact. Nice. And you're also making an impact, too, in the suicide space, too, with suicide prevention. You teamed up with Amazon.

How has that been? Yeah, I mean, that came about, you know, I had a, with the background in hacking, my ability to hack was exploiting, like, Facebook and Instagram and getting information that we shouldn't, we shouldn't have access to. But they left the door open and it was legally to get it. And we would use that in counterterrorism, child crimes cases. So I get pretty good at using data to exploit a problem. And I got approached, um, around 2019 on using technology to, uh, prevent suicide. Like how can we make an indent with the organization called stop soldier suicide

so i sat on there for a week and i realized that you know when i got back in 2019 my best friend andrew thomas killed himself like to survive the deployment and kill himself right in a eulogy at at 21 it rocked me like absolutely killed me so it's always been close to my heart and i realized i've helped buddies along the way, like financially or just be there for them. And they were all posting the same thing online. They were all posting like call a buddy, help a buddy. And I knew they were the ones that were suicidal. So I knew that your outward persona was separate and different than your inward persona.

And so by having a digital forensic background, when I was investigating child crimes, it was almost like you were in the mindset of this individual. Because your phone's your fifth limb, as Elon Musk said, right? Everything you do, think think process goes through that and so i was sitting there i realized it was like all these phones are being left behind when you kill you know commit suicide you're all your devices go to your next of kin so we're sitting on a wealth of knowledge well people say well eventually the phone is locked out you can't get in well we partnered with the best in breed and sell bright they donated right away when i told them the initial concept so i built like a bootstrapped in my house during covid because i wasn't working undercover yeah i built a forensic lab but all the old

equipment i had it called celebrate they donated for free stop soldier suicide brought me on as their cto to build out this platform amazon caught wind of it we brought in the best machine learning team from the pro serve to come and analyze it and so this is our first time talking about the project publicly and it is a fascinating results we're seeing are incredible because we can actually back it up with data you know with our control said so you guys can predict suicide through phone through text message you can't yet you can't predict it yet but you can't get that point so you know what's going on right so we we do a call at the black box project is They had no idea how planes were crashing or why they were crashing.

And so they put a black box into the planes, right? And so we're analyzing the black boxes right now of all these plane crashes to try to see why. You know, out the gate, I knew that three out of five first cell phones, like, I had to go to these families and meet these people. And, I mean, I knew of suicide. Like, I think everyone in the military goes down this path 22 veterans kill themselves a day so you have a day a day man a day veterans 22 that's minimum they think it's even higher so it's it's insane the numbers and you go through it right i have had five buddies kill themselves wow right and you you offer this up it's just there's all different reasons and so

i i was going into it and i realized man with suicide, like all you're doing is pushing the pain. Right. You're pushing it. It's like you walk in now, the mom suicidal, the father suicidal. You know, it's like I think we have to really bring people to awareness when you do this. It is it is a drastic effect across the board. Right. It's hitting everybody. And the families were just bought in. They were like, I want to do I i want to help they wanted to give their self the cell phones they had so they gave them and if you understand security your cell phone right now we can't get into because of certain security reasons but it's not being updated and it's not being packed that's why we update our cell phones right it's because they're they're stopping a door that's been open

and so the longer the phone sits around the more doors you have open that you could eventually get in and still have all this data to analyze and so it's been a fascinating project we're seeing you know like a big thing is like oh it's spur of the moment well you know one of the cases they said it was for a moment he wrote a suicide notes three months prior that he deleted from his notepad that i then recovered and analyzed and read it so he had all these tendencies back then so then what were they searching what were they googling right you're so you're seeing all these different statistics that and i thought it was going to be like a year-long project i was like i'll come over for a year we'll do this now we're in like year three four and yeah it's a great organization

that means you're going to innovate the way all cell phone companies not just apple but all cell phone companies collect their data when it comes to each individual so you could create an sdk there's talks of that to putting on certain apps where you're seeing this is like a suicide prevention you start seeing these flags and indicators we're looking at having our own app for resource for suicide help because stops or suicides a huge non-profit now they've they've just hit the limelight during during covid we grew i mean we were i think it was a there's only 13 of us now and the organization is growing during covid the suicide went up right all these individuals were at home the depressed being locked up all the effects and uh it hasn't we haven't improved

anything and so we think and we hope that we have we have the best chance out there because we're the only ones with this data yeah and so i've loved it we're going to continue to do it we need more devices so i mean that's like if i had one ask from this podcast, it's like if you know somebody that was a veteran that has passed away from suicide, to reach out to us, stopsoldiersuicide.org. You can donate the devices to us. We give the devices back. So we collect the data, and then we give the device back to you so you still have that device for yourself. So how do you yourself deal with getting all this information and energy and like what's your mental health like i mean look i struggled for years like i

couldn't bathe my daughters when i got back from some of these operations you go from like living undercover where you're you're a savage right you're not doing anything illegal but you're still living around these people you have such this negative energy you're living you have to come back and then you know be a father and be normal and then you go another two weeks you're going and it could be at a moment's notice you jump back and forth so i struggled man like i tattooed a little baby's hand on my wrist because i almost closed down my non-profit because i was struggling so i was like well if i put a tattoo on i have to like so i was doing this battling of going through it and it the stuff you

see is so bad it's not it's all trauma's equal just when you watch this this information like i can't even talk to a therapist about it right because it would it would mess them up if i explain what i saw damn it's like that's a therapist yeah like all all the forensic yeah all the forensic investigators that are out there i mean mean, they are doing God's work, man. Being on the front lines, living that every day. They're a special breed. They really care. I can't even talk to a therapist because I'll become the therapist's therapist.

Exactly. Pretty much. I started, like, manipulating my therapist. I was like, yeah, maybe I should. I'm going to turn that off at some point. But so then I found plant medicine. You know, like for me, being in the military, I had my top secret security clearance. I had the highest level.

You can't do drugs. It's one of the things. But you can drink a shit ton. So every one of us either go to the Bible or the bottle. It's funny. It's like because they'll allow you to drink, which alcohol is a drug. Yeah. Yeah.

But they don't allow you to do anything else. And alcohol is more, it'll inebriate you to the point you can't even defend yourself or defend the country. Yeah. That's true. And the infantry, you know how many times they got in fist brawls because everyone is drunk? Yeah.

We were high. We'd all just be chilling out. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's weird. Have they changed that since? No, you still can't do anything. Not even weed?

Not CBD, not nothing. Yeah, they call it CBD. It's crazy. Hopefully, eventually they catch up because you're seeing in the veteran space, the psychedelics can't not even not cbd not nothing yeah they felt like cbd it's just crazy yeah hopefully eventually they catch up because you're seeing in the veteran space and psychedelics are hands down the best one like ayahuasca cured my ptsd on the second time i got a second term what's your what's your take on psychedelics because i i mean i just experienced um shrooms for the first time two months ago yeah and um microdosing is i i it helps me yeah with a lot of different things as far as thinking um anxiety uh just dealing with like the social aspect of constantly just working

and spreading yourself out to then even in being in large crowds look i am a big advocate for it you know i started my psychedelic journey with ayahuasca and i've done around 14 ceremonies and i do private ceremonies where i do it with the shipibo tribe and i've done around 14 ceremonies and i do private ceremonies where i do it with the shipibo tribe so i would just say to people it's go to the source right don't go to california and do it with some hippie then try out ayahuasca like go to the source because they are the energy you know when the shipibo are considered the guardians of ayahuasca right they're the only ones that cast the recipe for it and then spread to brazil and columbia and hiawaska though ayahuasca is. What's that? That's it. Ayahuasca is different, right?

Ayahuasca is DMT. Yeah. Right. First, with psychedelics, psilocybin, with psilocybin, mushrooms I love. Yeah. But I didn't start to appreciate mushrooms until I did ayahuasca because it gave me the ability to handle because it's pretty deep, right? It's six to eight hours long.

So my mushroom ceremony has gotten 10 times better and i could really tap into my internal workings right because i've had that psychedelics experience and so it it benefited and like eventually i want to have my own center for women that have been abused and children in their lives for veterans where they can get access to it because it worked for me and once it works for you I mean I woke up after my second ceremony and it just felt like somebody had just scrubbed my system well no it's not like a magic pill like you saw the Iowa right this is my yeah my ayahuasca ceremony you said was six hours eight hours you do six to eight hour I went to where celebrities went at first down in Costa Rica and then I want

to like where you like regular people would go and then I realized that the the energy was the healers and so i started putting my own private retreats and they when i went to other retreats they had two they had a man and a woman as the maestros and maestra um for me i was like i heard about like maybe having five like a family so i did well i got my buddy to get the people from sheba i brought five of them to the amazon jungle and so we had five healers to only seven of us wow and it completely took me to another dimension like i did four ceremonies so you do four ceremonies in a week so every other day you do one and i mean it was life-changing did your soul leave your body oh yeah i mean i was i mean it was that that experience in that environment in the Amazon jungle was so powerful.

Like, I mean, the experience that I've had, and I think I've gotten better over the years is because you have to let go. You have to realize that you have nothing to lose and I don't care. Like I fully commit to it when I do it is. And so I think I have a, I have a better relationship with it. And no, I've done it so many times. Like by myth time she's like i taught you enough she was like you're no she pretty much is like get out of here you know like so i explored iboga i just did iboga what's that what's that what's that they call iboga iboga is so it is insane right so i ibogaine 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00, And it is a root. Now, that ceremony can last anywhere from 18 to 38 hours.

Right? It is insane. But so with Ibogaine, it is pharmaceutical, and it's one acolyte that pulls out of it. And with Iboga, you get the spirit, they say, with it, and it's 14 different acolytes. And so it completely rocked me. So it, like, replays your life. Like, a screen pops up. You're into it. It's not recreational like a screen pops up you're you're into it it's not it's it's not recreational like aya you don't get the cool you know like i can show you love at

10 000 and show you fear at 10 000 right and it's like i'm stuck in a tv with ayahuasca and so with iboga it's more of like watching your life and shows you and it's just like the old grandfather that's just like smacks you upside your head, says like you need to do this. Stop being an idiot. And then you get like neuroplasticity where your brain is like fully open to learn for three months. Whoa. Which is insane. So like right now I'm in that.

I mean I'm up at 5 a.m. every day. I'm journaling, cold plunging sauna. Like you get that ability to really rewire yourself, right? Wow. But you can also rewire yourself as you start drinking heavily you can start tying that in so if you imagine like getting this ability to be supercharged and then really take control of yourself and say I want to fix this for me it was like I have an anti-alcohol arm anti-hangover company so I was like you

know I'm gonna take a break from drinking really reset detox my life get my brain fully fully functioning right and so then i'll go back to it so iboga is so let me get this straight so you take what is it a pill is it no man it's just like ground up root it's a root it's terrible there's no good plant medicine mushrooms taste like candy compared to this so you so you take it and then instantly it's just no it's you wait like 30 minutes and so you start going through it and then you have your healers. And so for Iboga, I used this guy, Michael, from Bowidilife.org. Phenomenal. And this guy, Jason Munger, is one of those people.

And they were just amazing, man. They like walked you through the journey. So you go in with intentions. And so you go, you take the medicine and you wait like an hour. And it's like teaching you life lessons. So there's these principles of life of like taking care of yourself, right? Like you put you first of going in through and then resetting your brain of like, you know, if you hold on to something, if a negative thought comes in your mind, you have 10 seconds to get rid of it or you're going to hold it the whole day. Wow.

And so it teaches you these different things to really align yourself to. It's cheating, man. I compare it to cheating. All my success, my patents and other things I've done all have come from plant medicine. That's insane. Completely rewired my brain for it. Now, granted, it's work. You have to constantly go through.

I didn't do a good job at reintegrating of coming back and doing this now. And so I've gotten better over the years. And there's different plant medicine. I've done San Pedro, which is Godzilla's deed. There's Bufo, which is the toad so i've done an experiment with all of them and just kind of figure out like with friends and buddies and colleagues i know like hey you know what you should try this one you're going through this in life maybe you should go to that right yeah and so how important do you feel is the plant-based implementation when it comes to mental health do

you feel like they should start approving this it's it's the only look when i got out of the military i was on they had me on eight percocets a day damn they had me on zoloft right it's terrible i mean i kicked it cold turkey you know like i was watching drug inc on discovery or history whatever it was and i realized i was an addict so for five days i went through withdrawal it's completely rocked me and i was like man i don't everybody go down this path again and then they have you on Zoloft which is makes you numb because you're going through all these different things when truthfully if you microdose mushrooms if you go and go to go travel somewhere like why is this not legal in the U.S. why don't now I don't agree with just making everything legal but I think like with psilocybin if you can do a guided journey

in the US have it like you're going to do like ketamine right now you're starting to get ketamine drips they can do that I haven't done that yet but like have a guided journey it would do wonders for it right is but I don't recommend because mushrooms can take you really deep if you take the wrong amount of dosage you can you can go pretty deep with that if you don't know what you're doing so I think like mushrooms should be used in microdose aspect or um really just having in controlled environments having somebody guide you like i have buddies and we'll go we'll get mushrooms we'll go to another country and i'll guide them you know if i need to right word so have you ever had a bad psychedelic trip or

experience i mean the bad ones are the good ones right like that's when you have the most learning right when you have you're like i had i was probably i was like stuck for like three hours like screaming no mas you know like a little bit of spanish i'm getting rocked in the amazon they're like holding my hands and you know that's why i can show you love at 10 000 level like your amount of love it could also show you fear and you know like it can take you to those levels but then it's just your body working through it you can get out of it for the most part that one time i couldn't get out of it for some reason but the every other times you can get up you can go to the bathroom but i would challenge anybody if they're struggling like what do you

have to lose because they say if you're in a bad mental state you should be careful about taking cydelix right correct right like and if you're on certain antidepressants you that's why i highly read there's so many places down and if anyone wants to know places to go if you can hit me up on instagram like they can reach out like hey this is the place i prefer for it i've experimented with different ones and i know the ones that i like working with because they're like little angels and they really are the guys that guide you through the journey and women that guide you guide you through. They're there to protect you. Right. Right. And there you are, the conduit between the locals that do it and having that local or that, you know, individual that's not from the tribe is actually guiding you. So, man, what's next for you? This is man. This is enlightening.

I mean, so, you know, we're we're making a big push with the sentinel foundation that's my non-profit foundation sentinel.org we're pushing there where we're consolidating a bunch of uh other human trafficking task force to put us under one flag to move forward to create as much fear as we can you know blow up alcohol armor so we can have an exit like i want to be on yachts and rescue kids you know like i don't think you should be poor to have to do non-profit work i think that you can you can find that balance right when i first, I started a for-profit company and a nonprofit at the same time. And all my mentors from Silicon Valley were like, you're an idiot. You can't do this. But then I realized the more that I gave, the more I got, right? And my successes came from leading with my nonprofit, right? Of going through, and then it became a test bed where I was taking what I learned in

my nonprofit and into the for-profit. And so I got this balance of back and forth and just always staying true to it. Right. Like always giving and helping others. It's, I think there's nothing greater in this world. When you go to a third world country, you go to your neighborhood and you help somebody in need. If you can, you can do the littlest thing and really change somebody's life. Man, I love that with sex trafficking, what are the most common countries that have that issue? So like huge issue in Thailand, Asia, right? You get a lot of people from Europe and U.S. to travel to there. They exploit them.

And the Thai people are some of the nicest people, right? And they're just overwhelmed, right? When you have this influx into that country, you know, like the U.S. is some of the biggest consumers of this problem. Really? Right. Oh, yeah. And they're taking like kids as young as what? Yeah. I mean, look, yeah. The ones that produce stuff that are doing very low. I just I don't want to. Yeah, it's very low. And then you have all the way up to like teenagers like they'll go to South America. You know, like Colombia is one of my favorite countries in the world I spent a lot of time down there and so yeah it's that whole region Columbia Peru Ecuador

have worked in the majority of all these countries so that's insane did you ever go to Epstein Island I wish yeah that's if we get terminal cancer right yeah I'm not going out on a deathbed so uh yeah that that exists at a certain level but it's so hard for us to do anything about it right because that we need our government to stand up we need our politicians to stand up and for them to make changes and laws and fund law enforcement so yeah man it's been a blast yeah man this is a lot i'm speechless i want to try some of those psychedelics oh dude let me know man i'll take you down they're gonna see him show up like no no no sean you can come you got to stay back yeah yeah the best it's like i'm gonna go back and do it again now that i've gotten better i'm

like come on let me back in come on man iboga sounds fascinating so you literally could see your life yeah it was so crazy 18 hours though sean that's a lot well so it's different it's like you you go hard for 12 and then the sun comes up, then they put you in your room. So they isolate you for like, you're not allowed to really talk to anybody. They pull your cell phone away and you get this time to just lay in bed and think about you have your first 18 is your first movie. So zero to 18, you have your 18 to your current present is your second movie.

And then you have the ability to write your third movie. And so you go through and you live through your life and you start analyzing all your mistakes and it's a very honest and being true to yourself um for it so it does last like mine were 20 hours where but by the 16th hour i was just having like little shutters but for like eight hour eight to ten hour i couldn't walk like it's like it's like the matrix is breaking but the screen pops up and like i had like a defrag moment where it was like i could just see myself in a bar environment drinking i knew like if i you know like just different things throughout my life it would show me but i didn't have i am still exploring i don't need to

do it again that's insane yeah so that means all our memories are stored somewhere and yeah you were able to reactivate it dude it was crazy they had me like they walk you through a journey at one point on the second time your ceremony they'll start guiding you so they come over and they're like no find you go to your room or go to your house and then go through the front door of your house and you can see all this and you're walking through and like go up to your room and they're like you see you so then you talk to your inner child you find it and then you start digging up it's i mean it's insane whoa yeah you start going through and it's like then they walk you through your organs it's gotta be the most emotional experience ever yeah yeah yeah there was like i had like some deep stuff that i was like did something happen like what is during this period like why did my blank in this area and

like yeah you get it's a very deep learning right but it's made me hands down a better person is this one in so this one you can do you can't go to africa and do it like eventually i will but it's it's tough like getting africa but you can do it in toronto um just guy jason munger he does it with a guy named michael out of weedy life and they're in mexico and canada wow and i got to go because of vet solutions.org any special operation veteran they paid for everything man wow yeah like they like they basically were i thought it was like i paid for all my other trips and they're like hey you want to go be a part of a study i mean covered everything like hands down it was easiest

situation so they had but it was for special operations or there's heroic hearts that does a lot of regular army and and special operations and so there's a lot of great veteran organizations out there and they're not paying me. I'm throwing this out to these guys. After that, did you come back and apologize to some people? Did you want to fuck some people up? I don't know. I'm like, yeah.

Because, I mean, it does give you a confidence. You know what? Fuck that person. I don't need them in my life anyway. I was pretty cold at first. I was like, you know, I'm taking care of me. Yeah, yeah. It's about me. Yeah, yeah.

I remember. I remember now. You know, you forgive a lot and you forgive yourself right you realize that like hey you can you can do a better job at being a father you know you can be a better person and and work on this and just be honest with yourself and you know i found journaling is key like having going through and i don't do as often but having that notepad i studied a lot of the Stoics and their philosophies that they have, so you tie all that together.

Look, you do what you can, man. For the majority of us, especially where we come from, we just try to do more good than we do bad. None of us are perfect. No one's a saint here. Glenn, I've learned a lot, man. I can't wait to support your business and help veterans save their lives. For sure.

It's such an honor, man. Thank you so much for being out here. Like you're doing God's work by spreading the word. So. Absolutely. Appreciate you coming by, man. Yeah. Thanks.

You got anything, Wayne? No. Thank you guys for watching. And where can they reach you at? Yeah. Glenn.Devitt on Instagram. And then FoundationSentinel.org is my nonprofit. And AlcoholArmor.com if they hate hangovers. Love it. All right, guys. Thanks for tuning in. nonprofit and alcohol armor.com. If they, uh, they hate hangovers.

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