Digital Social Hour - Cue Banks On Making Millions with Forex, Most He's Made in a Day & Having 31 Siblings | DSH #220

Episode Date: January 7, 2024

On today's episode of Digital Social Hour, Cue Banks talks about growing up with humble beginnings, how he's made tens of millions from forex and how he coaches 15,000 students how to trade right now.... APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://forms.gle/qXvENTeurx7Xn8Ci9 BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com SPONSORS: Opus Pro: https://www.opus.pro/?via=DSH Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Have any really bad days where you were kind of questioning, are you making the right choice? Never. No. I don't know. Put it this way. The money that I do lose, I could have made. You know what I'm saying? Or the money that I lost, I could have made.
Starting point is 00:00:13 And I understand that concept. And that concept alone, like, people tend to just think very surface level to losing, period. Welcome back to the show, guys'm your host as always sean kelly we're here on the digital social hour got with me today a forex expert for you guys today q banks how's it going man lovely lovely so we've never had a forex guy on i'm pretty excited and you're one of the top in your space man yeah man um you know i try to you know make a statement yeah anything and try to lead the way this forks yeah force is that space where people come in and out but you're like the one guy that i've seen for years yeah i mean i've
Starting point is 00:00:49 been inside the space for the past like nine years damn um since late 2014 and then just been inside the space ever ever since honestly yeah nine years i mean was every year profitable for you for the most part i felt like i leveled up in some kind of way um every single year even like you know like my my first year um you know i every single year. Wow. Even like my first year, I lost maybe like $7,000 my first year, but I learned a lot. And then I started actually growing a lot around 2016-ish. Was that your second year? Going on to the third year. Third year.
Starting point is 00:01:18 But yeah, it was very, very difficult knowing that there was so much going on as far as learning curve and that kind of thing. Yeah. But for the most part, every mean it was every single year actually i grew in some kind of way it could have been financially mentally something you know yeah so most people watching this probably aren't into forex or trade it how how tough was that learning curve at first like um so put it this way it's a ton of knowledge and i feel like people definitely complicate it a lot more than needs to be Yeah, but um, I mean like the first like maybe like four or five months like I mean like my first thousand all the day
Starting point is 00:01:49 Okay, um, but that's me literally studying every single day of the entire week So I was very very fully fully invested in like the craft itself. You were full-time full-time. Yeah, um And yeah, like I think like I actually passed my learning curve a lot faster than a lot of people. I feel like I'm very, very good at patterns and pattern recognition and that kind of stuff. So it kind of came very, very simple compared to a lot of people because that's kind of like their side hustle. Right. That was like my main hustle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:18 And when you say studying, you're literally just looking at charts all the time? No. So like whenever I say studying, mean um back testing you know um going over past data and everything to kind of like see how your your technical analysis lines up in some kind of way and actually make sense of like what move that you could have caught if you did something better um and then you know kind of like the strain of your your mind and your eyes to see things that aren't there yeah whenever it comes up you pretty much understand how to actually go about it so actually catch that certain move interesting yeah so you're able to look at back data from years past see some patterns
Starting point is 00:02:47 and then test them out in the current market technical analysis you know just analyzing past data to to help you analyze what the future is going to be doing yeah for a certain area yeah now where should people learn this stuff because there's so much information a lot of it's kind of weird right like so um you know they have like the free programs um and youtube and that kind of stuff but you know like those things can't teach you a trading style you know like you can obviously go on youtube which is of course it's free but it's literally a super disorganized encyclopedia of stuff um and then you have babypips.com which is another free program but it teaches you like definition that's like what everything means and then you have like like
Starting point is 00:03:26 my program which is wall street academy that's where i teach like my actual style of how to go about like a certain workflow to actually make a person understand like my training style how to go about it like as far as like using time from correlation how to actually use certain tools in a certain kind of way at a certain time to then benefit for a certain setup right but um yeah like i mean there's a lot of free things, but those free things don't really teach you what you need to do to actually become profitable. They teach you like, what is this and what is that.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Right. They don't teach you the method. Exactly. But not how to go about it. Like the workflow of using all those tools at one time. I feel that. What about these signals chats where people, you pay to get in and then they tell you when to buy and sell.
Starting point is 00:04:04 You like those? I mean, I don't use anything really, nor do I do them. chats where people you pay to get in and then they tell you when to buy and sell you like those um i mean i mean i don't use anything really um nor do i do them um i feel like it definitely hinders a lot of people um i feel like it makes a person that wants to make money out of markets make some kind of money but it can't make them to the point that they're depending on just that their entire life yeah you know so i feel like it handicaps the person in some kind of way because it makes them never want to learn it makes them never ever want to go through all the hardships that need to be done to actually get to that that next point in trading or investing overall um but i mean it's cool for what it is but for a long-term trader
Starting point is 00:04:37 or long-term investor it's not like a thing that you could actually count on yeah either you're not actually learning anything correct correct correct what yeah what about these prop firms i just saw one got in trouble i forget that my forex funds i think correct correct correct what do you think of i mean i have like my own prop from also top tier trader yeah but um i think with the my forks funds like they were just uh out of line with a lot of things like i read the article and that kind of stuff and um it was a lot of shadiness i feel like it was due to a lot of greed and um for the main fact that you know they weren't they weren't satisfied with the kind of money that they were making they pretty much started to actually do things to make traders lose even more to make them more a lot more money right they even had like i think a 300 million dollar lawsuit overall i saw that
Starting point is 00:05:23 so that little insane but the fact that that you could actually manipulate the markets to the point that it causes traders to actually lose their their challenges a lot more and people still voted them as number one is crazy to me but they were number one on the list and people vote to for that list like i mean yeah like i mean like you know the ratings and the reviews and that kind of stuff and they were still like you know like the long style i think and that kind of stuff. And they were still, like, you know, like, the long style. I think they've been out since, like, probably 2013 or some kind of, like, a long-ass time. But the fact that, you know, they burned so much people over time knowing that they were taking advantage of being that big dog.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah. You know, so I think it's just very, very unfortunate for the most part. And I feel like, you know, that's a cause of greed. Yeah, that's sketchy. Definitely. Why do you think the 4X space in general kind of has a negative stigma because like people assume it's a scam and stuff yeah i mean it's due to like you know a lot of mlms and that kind of stuff also you know like emblems they come around and actually tear up a space like they they literally destroy
Starting point is 00:06:16 any space that they like come across fire yeah and um i think it's the main fact that they they treated it like just a sign-up game. And people stuck to that. So whenever they hear about trading, they think of that sign-up game. Because the way how an MLM space markets, it's bar none. They put a lot of money towards marketing. They do all the big events and that kind of stuff. So they attract a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And those people, they get the stigma that it's a sign-up game. And that's what they think of trading. It's just like, oh, what rank are you? And I'm like, no, I actually do the real thing. So yeah, I think it's just the fact that the MLM space actually tarnished the name Forex. That's why I like to call it, I'm a currency trader. I'm an index trader. You don't even use that word.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah, because the term Forex is very, very, they tore it apart. You know what I'm a currency trader. I'm an index trader. You don't even use that word. Yeah, because the term forex is very, very, they tore it apart. You know what I'm saying? Like they definitely made it very, very negative to like a lot of people within the entire space. So people are not really attracted to wanting to even learn anymore because they think it's a scam immediately. Yeah, absolutely. So what's a typical day like for you these days? You're nine years into this. You probably have a system.
Starting point is 00:07:20 So I pretty much accomplished a lot of things that I wanted to do. Like, now it's more just, you know, maintaining, like, giving back to, like, my circle overall with, like, a certain business model and that kind of stuff, like the prop firms. I have now also a trading platform also called TradeLocker as well. We just came out with a social media platform called Invalio for traders. Kind of like just giving back that kind of value to the people so they can actually take full advantage of it. And just, you know, interact with people that's in the same space. But I still do teach myself as well,
Starting point is 00:07:51 like, with Wall Street Academy. But at the same time, I think it's just more just, you know, just taking care of them. I have, like, some properties that I actually invest in, like my compound. Oh, nice. You know, I just have, like, normal fun.'ll fly here fly there go on trips whatever you know yeah but as far as like the hard work stuff i don't really
Starting point is 00:08:09 do that much hard work anymore because i feel like i've already passed all those things that wow make made it harder to get to a certain point you know like what people strive for is what i've already passed nice um so now it's just you know just cruising and chilling and you know yeah so you're like semi-retired yeah yeah yeah like um which is like it sounds terrible to say to some people because some people take it very offensive because they're probably like 50 years old and i'm saying yeah man like i'm already retired bro come on you know so i feel like just more just i'm working at the minimal like right now but but still growing the companies and everything that i'm a part of wow you know yeah that's nuts so what out of those nine years what year did you make the first million out um i think i think i had
Starting point is 00:08:49 a million dollars like maybe like when i was 26 or 27 damn actually i think 27 27 i remember that yeah yeah it was pretty earlier on but it was just a million dollars like in in my bank account um that's crazy but i mean you obviously have to maintain that like that's after all your um expenses and that kind of stuff and all that stuff but um over time it just got very very easy to maintain um and yeah man like it's just it came over time it's not like i did it immediately it just the compound over time correct correct yeah so like what percentage of forex traders or you don't like that word, but just traders of currencies actually make a profit, you think?
Starting point is 00:09:27 Because most of them lose, right? No. Look, to make a profit is not hard. You know what I'm saying? To make a profit is not hard. To get to a certain point that you're making a ton of money, like $100,000 trades and that kind of stuff, that takes time. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:39 But I think it's still a low percentage. I feel like maybe 80% still lose. Okay. Because it's still a very, very big network of people. But at the same time, people don't really want to take the chance to even invest in education a lot of times. Right. A lot of people still go to YouTube. A lot of people still go to those free programs and they want to learn it by themselves and everything else.
Starting point is 00:10:02 That's why it takes a longer learning curve for them to even take on the certain skills to even make the kind of profitable trades that they want to learn it by themselves and everything else. That's why it takes a longer learning curve for them to even take on the certain skillsets to even make the kind of profitable trades that they want to make eventually. So I feel like the percentage is always going to be low in this game, 20% or even 10% profitable for the most part, or even lower. But it's never going to be to the point that it's 80% profitable in any kind of way.
Starting point is 00:10:22 It wouldn't make sense. It wouldn't make sense, but at the same time, it's the main fact that people are hard-headed and people are very scared to invest in themselves when it comes to education, nor do they want to go through that entire learning curve. That's why they go to signals and that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:36 They don't want to go through the headache of running the entire thing. I think the most skilled people in any industry, stocks, crypto, will always, the top 10% will make money and then you can lose. Yeah, because they go through that hard work i feel like you know and um they enjoy it you know like that's like my passion like my craft like that's like my bread and butter you know that's what like that's like my main thing that i do absolutely everything else is kind of easy yeah
Starting point is 00:10:57 you know i'm saying but a lot of people like they kind of like put put that off as like their their um second most important thing or third most important thing like that's like my first most important thing so people that treat it. That's my first most important thing. People that treat it as such, they become profitable. People that treat it like a side thing, they don't really make as much money as they plan on making
Starting point is 00:11:13 because they don't really give it the time that it needs. You went all in from day one because you were working at Target when you started, right? Correct. Part-time at Target, actually. What was that like?
Starting point is 00:11:23 It was cool. It wasn't a bad job. Um, it was just the main fact that in reality, the job couldn't take me to where I wanted to go. Right. At a time at Target, like I was still driving like a nice car. I had a 335 BMW, a 2015. It was clean.
Starting point is 00:11:36 It was nice. But at the same time, like what I wanted, I couldn't get out of that Target job. Yeah. There was a cap. Yeah. It was $8 an hour or $8.25. Yeah. 25, 25 percent raise
Starting point is 00:11:46 after like working there for like about three months geez you know i'm saying so like at that point i was like you're like i'm not making the kind of money to to buy that car that i want or the house that i want or to kind of like take care of my family that i want because at the time i was i was only staying i was staying in like a two-bedroom apartment and i was sharing a room wow so i i was living with this lady and i was paying like maybe just some random lady a random lady um eight hundred dollars for the room and everything at the time so yeah like i was yeah i was rags to riches getting by getting by for the most part and you grew up in jamaica right yeah yeah what was that like i've actually been there
Starting point is 00:12:18 yeah yeah cool no it's um i mean this is a different kind of life you know um like i grew up like in the country part of jamaica so it's like more dirt roads um it's not really much going on it's very very slow life but at the same time like i mean that's all that i knew at the time so you know coming to america like was when i actually um seen that there was a lot more out there wow what how old were you when you're like eight oh eight yeah and then um yeah to stay here ever since wow until like around 21 was when i got like my citizenship and like my green card you know all that stuff and um and yeah and then that's when i started to actually going back to jamaica like around 22 years old so i took like a 10 year break from not even being
Starting point is 00:12:57 able to go back yeah yeah i remember when i went to jamaica in college i only had like 100k to my name yeah but over there i was a millionaire yeah but only 100k is a lot of money you know it's all relative yeah correct but like 100k in the u.s you're a millionaire in other countries with that yeah yeah man yeah yeah um like in jamaica like i mean you could definitely make a great living but at the same time like there's a lot of places that actually only take u.s currency as well so at the same time like it it sounds great but it still gets like after the conversion that kind of stuff it still gets very very expensive as well you know that makes
Starting point is 00:13:29 sense so you've been traveling a lot lately yeah man um i just came back from like five countries like yeah yeah we went to malta we went to croatia went to switzerland went to italy and then um turkey all those are on my list yeah yeah yeah which one was your favorite switzerland switzerland yeah definitely food was good um the food and the scenery was amazing like that's probably the biggest thing that i got out of it it's very fresh like you you walk outside and just like uh it just feels free you know i'm saying it's very very open and very very free it's very very easy to breathe like yeah it's all greenery in nature i love that yeah it's cool as hell yeah i grew up in jersey i miss the nature man because in the desert out here there's no trees there's
Starting point is 00:14:07 nothing no grass nothing dry it's turf it's rough man yeah so what's what's like your goal now because you're semi-retired what keeps you motivated these um like i said man like um i love um taking care of people bro i love doing doing things i could actually help the next upcoming set of traders and everything better in some kind of way or make things a little bit easier in some kind of way as well. It could be the trading platform. It could be my educational platform. Anything that I could actually add value to in some kind of way, then I try to actually put it out there so they could benefit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Because you got it. Oh, go ahead. Yeah, so that's what actually keeps me going in some kind of way because, I mean, like, like I said, like, I don't really need to accomplish anything for me anymore. Like, I feel like I have things, the majority of things that I do need or do want, actually. Yeah. Now it's just more just giving back. I feel that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I saw one interview. You got, is it true you have 31 siblings? Yeah. Dude, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah. How is that possible? Um, oh, my dad has 31. Nah, man, um, it's always been a thing um like ever since like we were like
Starting point is 00:15:07 teens and everything like teens or even like like probably you know actually younger than teens like before i even came to america actually we was um every single summer like there's gonna be 15 of us on the plane going to jamaica at one time staying the entire summer and that kind of stuff um i mean mind you like it's it's over 15 different women but at the same time it's majority of us have multiple siblings with you know that one mom and everything else but overall 31 with 31 in total now that's insane yeah but it's cool because like back in high school it was just five of us in one school okay it was cool as hell you know i'm saying like you're in school with a bunch of your your siblings at one time It was cool as hell. You know what I'm saying? Like you're in school
Starting point is 00:15:45 with a bunch of your siblings at one time. It was dope as hell. So I feel like I never ever got the concept of being lonely in any kind of way because there was always
Starting point is 00:15:52 someone there. Which is cool. It's building a legacy overall. And did you teach them how to do all this stuff? They're open to it. They dabbled in it in some kind of way.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Only a few of my siblings actually take it seriously. But at the same time they got to put in their own work kind of way. Um, only a few of my siblings actually take it seriously, but at the same time, like, I mean, they got to put in their own work as well. Like this is like one thing or one, one, one industry that you can't really take a shortcut on. Like I can't instill all of my knowledge into another person that easily. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:16 It takes, it takes time to study and practice and you got to go through that learning curve as well. You know, and then eventually you'll come to a point that you actually understand and become profitable in some kind of way from the industry you know when you were trading full-time how many hours per day were you trading damn bro um or trading or studying overall i guess both right i think oh at the time i think i was studying literally like maybe 20 hours a day bro damn like i was on it like i, I wouldn't leave the couch. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And I have photos of me just on the computer just studying. Yeah. And all of a sudden like I fall asleep, I wake back up, I'm back on the computer all alone. That's insane. So I felt like it was just more like a thing that like I was, I was determined to actually learn the craft. And yeah, like I don't really put a time limit on like how often I study or like how long
Starting point is 00:17:04 I study if I was passionate about it. Right right and that's what it came down to like some people actually put too much time um on on something that they actually want you know i'm saying like oh i'm only going to dedicate three hours a day why like why not 10 you know i'm saying like if you're passionate about it then why are you even counting yeah why limit yourself exactly so like that's what actually i went through like i didn't really count and um yeah like day in day out day in day out day in day out for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and months at a time that's what i was doing yeah and the thing is i have friends that could attest to that you know i'm saying like they used to leave my house and come back and i was in the same spot yeah studying grinding so you gave up kind of your 20s going out and
Starting point is 00:17:41 partying just to grind hell no no no no no i, no, no, no. I still had fun. I don't believe in that. No, no. But I gave up at least, at least like about a year or two of just straight grinding and studying and trying to actually understand it. Okay. But I definitely feel like, you know, you have to have a nice balance with things or else you kind of just like go into like a hole, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Because I'm still very, very social. But at the same time i never got to the point that like i'm gonna disconnect from every single person and never interact with anybody no like i feel like it's very very important to to interact in some kind of way but also have to balance to then sit back and study as well like say say no to going out for a few nights study for a little bit yeah things like that but um i always actually kept a good balance between being social and actually putting in work with the craft itself yeah yeah do you have any really bad days where you were kind of questioning are you making the right choice never no you had losses
Starting point is 00:18:37 in place yeah but put it this way the money that i do lose i could have made you know i'm saying or the money that i lost i could have made and i understand that concept and that concept alone like people people tend to just think um very surface level to losing period with trading yeah you lost money that kind of stuff but what could you have done to make that that money or like what should you have done to actually become profitable in that that trade that that you took right so i always actually had that that that mindset like whenever it came down to it because it's not like the money that i lost i can't make back up in that next trade it just means that i gotta pretty much get back to studying
Starting point is 00:19:15 understand what i did wrong and then get back in with a new mindset right you know i'm saying so like i never ever questioned that okay is this the way and that kind of stuff because the same way how you lost money you could have made money now do better you know so it was never a question i know that money was always there and plus i had a few friends and everything at the time was that was making like 25k a day and that kind of stuff back in like 2016 yeah so that used to inspire me like back then you know right and um that that kind of showed me that like yo like if this person can do it then I could definitely do it as well. And over time, I showed that I do do that, you know, based off of that ambitious mindset that I had throughout trading the entire time.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And I've never, ever lost that. Damn. That's a great mindset to have because you probably had some days where you lost, like, 50K or something. 50K, 100K, 150. Like, I lost all those numbers. You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, I also made those days as well those numbers you know i'm saying but at the same time i also made those days as well right you know i'm saying so like it's kind of like just um yeah just putting your
Starting point is 00:20:08 time and if you lose you lose then get back in you know yeah the daily volume on the markets are so high it's possible to make like 500k in a day right um it's more than possible more than possible um the most i ever made in one day was 400 450 000000 in one day. That was back in 2020. Crazy. And I bought a car with that one trade. The next day? Yeah. Well, not the next day, but pretty much I withdrew and then bought a car with that one trade, from that one trade.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Wow. But the fact that there's always an up in volume each and every single year, especially like recent years and everything, CPI news and that kind of stuff and pushing the markets crazy. So at the same time, based on your your your your volume and like your your account balance and your lots and that kind of stuff and your level of skill and precision you can make six figure days multiple days and back-to-back days as much as you want to but it does take risk to actually be you you have to be open to the risk to even make the money right how much you put up
Starting point is 00:21:01 to make that 450 i think um to even make that money i was probably down like maybe almost like a hundred thousand dollars to actually make that money so but the but the risk on that trade was like about like 120 or like 140 wow um so i'm open to risking money like i'm not scared to lose money because um i know on on the back end if a person that's open to losing money they're now open to making the money yeah you know i'm saying like that's like the reward of risking money inside the first place is making the money now um but yeah man like i you know i put up decent risk to make big profits at times but at the same time like every now and again i do get burnt so like you know it's part of the game as well like you win you win or you lose yeah it is what it is do you know your win percentage um i don't know and i
Starting point is 00:21:43 i don't really care for it, honestly. It doesn't matter? It doesn't matter. Because at the same time, like, put it this way. Like, a person can actually lose, let's say, $100 20 times and make one trade for $4,000. Right. Now it doesn't matter. That's true.
Starting point is 00:21:56 You know what I'm saying? I thought of it that way. Yeah, like, people tend to, like, be so fixated on, like, win percentage and that kind of stuff. All that matters to me is that am I making money or am i not making money right you know i'm saying i could lose a hundred trades and then i make one trade to make back up all those hundred trades plus you know i'm saying so like technically a win percentage doesn't really matter to me personally i never thought of it that way because i was just assuming people were making the same trade in terms of dollar amount no so i thought of it that way but no man um i feel like it's a good thing if you're a trader that takes on investors that's different but um i don't touch anybody else's money i use only my money and everything
Starting point is 00:22:31 else so me personally i don't really give a win percentage honestly and that kind of stuff because you know it's i mean if you're taking on money then cool but i mean for a person that's just casually trading and that kind of stuff like it doesn't really matter too much honestly why did you decide not to go the fund route because you had potential to make hundreds of millions doing that right what funded route like taking people's money um i hate people calling my i hate people calling my phone like seriously like like my phone has has been on silent yeah it's it doesn't ring my phone has been on silent for the past like four years it doesn't ring wow yeah because I don't like to answer my phone only because a person's calling me. I call them back every single time. If I'm on the phone, then I see a call coming in, I'll answer. But
Starting point is 00:23:13 I think it's just the stress of being bothered with people. Plus, I deal with people every single day as is in the trading community and that kind of stuff in all kind of ways. So to have a person not calling me because account lost $200 for the day and now you're now you're gonna stress me out no i don't want to deal with people period so um i think it's people that that go that route they aspire to actually have a hedge fund and out at some time inside their lifetime but um i don't care to you know like i i make my money and then i live my life like that's how I see it, as simple as that. I don't really care to make hundreds of millions of dollars. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:52 I care to make enough to actually live how I want to live and go from there. Wow. So you found your point of happiness and your goals. Yeah, I'm good. I'm great with where I am, and I know that if I want to make $100,000, I know where to go to make that $100,000. I don't need to make $200 million. I don't care to. I don't even care to be a billionaire i don't care to really i don't care to because remember like when it comes to money that's one thing that if you're chasing money you're always going to chase money your entire life because
Starting point is 00:24:15 there's never a set amount that actually stops that like money is an infinite thing like like there's a what is it called i think it's um Googleplex, you know, like the longest number ever. Like that's money, you know, like you could keep on building money for the rest of your entire life. But you got to come to a point that you could actually afford what you're into, live what you want to live like, travel by the things that you like and everything and go from there. Yeah, I agree. There's definitely a balance. Yeah, you have to have that balance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:41 And it could easily go left, you know. Yeah, you could lose it all, man. Yeah. You hear about it all the time yeah but the person that is able to lose it you know they know how to get it back as well correct or yeah it might take longer but hey for sure i want to dive in your coaching stuff before we wrap up because you have over 15 000 students right plus of that yeah yeah yeah definitely like that's a huge business in itself so what were some key decisions you made to grow that business? I think I was very, very active, bro. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:15 At a time that I was growing all of my communities and everything, there wasn't that much teachers. There weren't that much groups. There was not really much going on inside the space, too, too much compared to now. So for me, it was very, very easy because I was very, the charts i was making great money a couple thousand dollars here a couple thousand dollars there show my trades you know like it's very very active overall um so i feel like that actually got a lot of growth and like me actually showing that it showed like like my growth as well so like as i'm growing like my students are growing as well yeah so things that i learn actually come out with like a video every single year that's like two hours long and that
Starting point is 00:25:48 kind of stuff called like my confluence series where i actually go over like you know certain breakdowns and that kind of stuff kind of like show like like my updated trading style in some kind of way as well so i feel like people actually love that over time and you notice make make everything into something you know i'm saying like every single thing that I'm doing, I make something big out of it. It could be a concert. It could be a giveaway. It could be an event. It could be a class.
Starting point is 00:26:11 I make it a big thing. You know what I'm saying? So, like, over time, like, people just love how interactive that I am on the charts, on social media and that kind of stuff. And then they just gravitate. You know what I'm saying? And plus, like, personality also sells as well. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not like people are buying the company. They're buying into the person as well. You know know i'm saying and plus like personality also sells as well you know i'm saying like it's not like people are buying the um the company they're buying into the person as well
Starting point is 00:26:28 right you know i'm saying like a person has to be a person that's actually able to reach in like to reach that next person to actually gravitate to the next person and make them like what's the word for it be very um open or yeah it's like to take's like Taking like Things that They're going through You know what I'm saying Like I think I've interacted With a ton of people
Starting point is 00:26:49 Over the years And that kind of stuff Of all walks of life And yeah Like I'm very very Open to You know
Starting point is 00:26:56 Meeting new people And that kind of stuff also No I feel that man You're very relatable I know what you mean Because there's crypto nerds That just have no personality No and I've
Starting point is 00:27:04 I've seen that a thousand times. Because I think they're too much on the computer to the point that they don't even socialize. Too much. You know, I like to be socialized. I like to socialize with a lot of people. A lot of people from different places, different backgrounds and that kind of stuff. And it works out, you know. And I relate to a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:27:20 People that even don't speak English, you know what I'm saying? They actually come across me. Yeah, like I have a huge um spanish following also like in south america that kind of stuff too you speak spanish or i'm learning i'm learning actually so like i'm actually taking tutoring classes like twice a week that kind of stuff now you know just put some some effort towards yeah learning something new you know i'm saying so that's part of my five-year plan because podcasting is expanding to international markets it's everywhere so i'm learning too right now yeah so i want to have spanish guests on eventually yeah yeah man and plus like you know you live in the u.s i'm pretty sure like there's a ton of hispanic people in vegas there's a ton of
Starting point is 00:27:51 hispanic people in um in south florida miami you know i'm saying it's like they're all the place like that's like one language i feel like it's definitely necessary to learn so many countries too yeah yeah yeah yeah i love it it's been awesome man learned a lot i'm sure everyone watching has learned a lot anything you want to close off with? I mean, I think just more just, you know, be a bit more open with investing overall. You know, like there's tons of ways to invest. It could be trading currencies. It could be trade indexes.
Starting point is 00:28:15 It could be cryptos. It could be stocks. It could be almost anything. But I feel like people got to have a bit more appreciation to people that actually trade currencies because people have like a bad taste in their mouth when when it comes to currencies yeah they have a great taste in their mouth like when it comes to stocks you know because stocks are just so open and that kind of stuff but at the same time i feel as if like you know currencies is a bit different it's a bit more volatile and that kind of stuff and you know we're slowly trying to actually make that that name
Starting point is 00:28:40 better for the community itself nice um and yeah man just um that and be open to investing in the knowledge because at the end of the day like to learn something from someone else that has already been through what you plan on going through why not take on the shortcut to actually learn what what they are they've already been through you know i'm saying it takes a little bit of money to learn it but at the same time it takes way less stress yeah it saves you years of years and a lot of money yeah i'm saying so yeah yeah all right guys thanks so much for coming on though definitely man all right guys have a good one

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