Digital Social Hour - Dating in LA: The Red Flags You’re Ignoring | Katie Thurston DSH #870
Episode Date: November 8, 2024🎉 Ever wondered what it's really like dating in LA? Tune in now for an episode packed with valuable insights and laughs! Sean Kelly dives into the wild world of dating with comedian and poker champ...ion Katie Thirst on Digital Social Hour. From reality TV revelations to poker tournament triumphs, Katie shares her unique experiences, including the red flags you're ignoring in the LA dating scene. 🌟 Don't miss out on this engaging conversation where Katie spills the tea on everything from feet rankings to the challenges of balancing comedy and love. Join the conversation and explore her journey from reality TV to comedy stages across the nation. 📺 Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets on Sean Kelly’s Digital Social Hour! 🚀 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories and exclusive insights from the heart of LA! #datinginlosangeles #obviousredflagsinguyswhenyouredatingthem #narcissisticabuse #datingadvice #datinginyour30s CHAPTERS: 00:00 - How Katie Found Out She Had A WikiFeet Page 00:28 - Katie’s Poker Win 02:40 - Katie’s Comedy Tour 03:08 - Katie’s Career Change 04:19 - Katie’s Reality TV Experience 07:54 - Katie’s Dating Life 09:32 - Your Boyfriend 11:02 - Your Comedy Shows 12:51 - Your Money 14:29 - Would You Get Roasted for $1M 15:04 - WikiFeet Insights 19:30 - Being Cancelled in Comedy 22:00 - Fboy Island Experience 23:20 - Moving to LA for Comedy 25:00 - Do You Have Trust Issues? 25:20 - Pressure in Your 30s 25:55 - What’s Next for You? APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Spencer@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Katie Thurston https://www.instagram.com/thekatiethurston/ https://www.youtube.com/c/KatieThurstonShow LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Okay, so here's the thing with the feet pics.
I didn't know that was like a thing
until I went on reality TV, and there's a website.
I don't know if you ever heard of it.
Feet Finder, right?
Well, no, but you know that one.
No, WikiFeet, it's a ranking for feet.
You can search any celebrity, reality star, whatever,
and it'll show the ranking
and all these random feet photos.
Literally, it could be a foot photo
but it was for my story and someone will screenshot it
and put it on this website.
What? Yeah.
That is crazy.
All right guys, comedian and poker champion.
Yeah.
Katie Thurston here, winning the celebrity tournament.
82 players.
It was 82, I couldn't remember, there were so many.
There was nine tables of nine, or so 81.
Yeah, yeah.
That's impressive.
Thank you.
You must have done a lot of practicing before that.
I downloaded a poker app and I played a lot on my phone.
But like when I was 18, I was dating a guy who really loved poker.
So much so that we went to prom and then
to a card room afterwards.
Wow.
Because we were too young for a casino, but card rooms,
you could do at 18.
Damn.
So we played some poker, and I really hadn't played in a while.
But the skills there, it's like riding a bike.
You always kind of know it.
And so I just kind of played on my phone a little bit.
You were dominating.
The background on my phone during the tournament
was literally the hand rankings.
I saw that.
Just in case I forgot.
You were knocking out champs.
You were knocking out pros.
I mean, I don't think a lot of people saw that coming.
Did anyone bet on you?
Yeah.
I mean, I told my people to bet on me,
because the odds were 75 to 1.
I was like, put your money on me.
I promise you're going to get paid.
Damn.
And they did.
So if someone bet a hundred they won
What is that seven hundred fifty or seven thousand five hundred bucks?
Yeah, I don't know seventy five to one. Holy crap. Yeah. Well, I'll bet on you on the next one
Well now the odds are definitely gonna change because everyone knows I know how to play
Yeah, your table probably thought you were just like oh Bryce Hall talks so much
He was such a little dick and then even afterwards I like DM'd him and I was like nice playing with you loser.
Yeah, he never responded. He's pretty butthurt. I saw his interview and I was like, oh he's pissed.
He's actually decent at poker. I know that's why he's mad because it is hard to play in a tournament with like
people who know how to play and then people have no idea what they're doing because you can't read that. Right?
So I get it, but like he also was giving me shit. I'm like, let me take my 20k and talk to you later.
Did you knock him out?
I don't think I did.
I don't think it was me, no.
OK.
And you guys had that girl that was halfway on the table
or something?
Oh, god, I forget her name.
But yeah, I think from America's Got Talent.
Yeah, that was insane.
Flexible.
Yeah.
Confused me.
Her head was on the table, and her body was a V.
Sophie.
Sophie was her name.
Sophie Dosey, right? Yeah. Yeah. That head was on the table and her body was a V. Sophie. Sophie was her name. Sophie Dosey, right?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was crazy. Well, well done. Are you playing in games out here too?
No, like that was it like a one and done, you know, like I don't really play poker
Like I just got invited and I was like, ah, why not? So back to comedy then back to comedy and you just did Oklahoma
And a couple other states Boston, Washington. Yeah. Yeah. What was the favorite out of those three? Oh
Honestly, I think Spokane, Washington was fun. Whoa.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a small little city, and I
think they just really love to come out for comedy.
And so it was a sold out show.
And my hometown is Washington.
So it was just a lot of progressive Pacific Northwest
vibes, you know?
So it was just a fun time.
Yeah, were you a bank marketing manager in Washington?
Yeah, I was in finance all of my working life.
So I was not expecting to ever take the direction
that my life is now.
I was very settled in my career.
I just bought a condo.
COVID was hitting.
Everything was just very traditional 9 to 5 life.
And then one day, I sign up for reality TV,
and then it just never slowed down.
Dang, what a big change.
That's like a 180 almost.
Oh, 1,000%.
It's crazy how much can change in such a short time.
Yes, you literally just applied online, and it worked.
Yeah, at the time I was 29, and I remember thinking,
oh, I'm going to be too old.
For reality TV, that's considered like elderly really
Yeah, it's like this is the last year like at this they will never pick me up
You know once I hit 30 and then I got the first call and I was like oh shit
And then I got another call cuz there's so many like rounds of interviews and every time I got a call is like oh
I think this is happening. Holy crap. Yeah, how many rounds were there? I couldn't remember like there's like there's medical
There's psyche valve background, interviews with like producers,
pre-screeners, executive producers.
It's a lot.
It's every time you're like,
no way do I make it to the next round.
And then like you get the call and it's like,
okay, you're on the show.
We leave in two weeks.
And you're like,
that's nuts.
And that was the bachelor, right?
That was the bachelor first.
And that was during COVID.
So I was like, what else am I going to do?
You know?
So did you have to wear masks on the show?
We did not, but we had to have COVID tests every three days.
And then we could only film in a bubble,
like on a resort, which was unfortunate
because normally with the show, you travel the world.
Like you get to go everywhere.
But no, it was very rigorous testing
and everyone working, like who wasn't in front of a camera
all had masks on.
If you got COVID, you'd have to go home.
Did that happen to anyone?
Not on my season, but COVID was'd have to go home. Did that happen anyone? Not on my season but
you know COVID was around for a couple years during filming. Yeah. So I think it happened on
at least one or two other seasons though. Wow. Did you make it farther than you thought you would?
I actually went home sooner than I thought I would but I don't I don't know if that's just part of the
the manipulation. I don't know if that's part of like the the brain fuck that happens there
because everyone thinks that he's in love with you.
He's always falling for me.
I'm going to go far.
And then I had this, I don't know if you watched the show, but they're called one-on-one dates.
And so I'm all like, and he picks up this asshole, Matt.
He picks up the rose as if he's about to give it to me.
And then he sets it down, which is like, I'm going to go home.
Dang.
And I know the camera was waiting for for like that face drop or something.
I just remember smiling and then holding my breath.
I was like, I'm not giving you any reaction right now.
Damn.
So yeah, I actually was 11th place.
Okay.
Before then being offered the bachelorette,
which at the time was like the lowest ranking person
to then be offered a lead role.
Oh really?
Normally it's someone from like the top four.
Oh I didn't know that's how it worked.
Yeah. Wow.
Yeah.
Which show did you like better?
I mean you get paid to be the bachelorette.
So at least pay me for my trauma.
Okay.
You know, but I will say it was a lot harder too.
Like people think it's very fun.
Like you're dating all these men.
It's not fun.
Like you don't get a lot of sleep.
You don't eat a lot of food.
Like you're just like delirious for the next six weeks.
So busy.
Six weeks?
Yeah.
Holy crap, I didn't know it was that long.
Yeah, and it's nonstop.
Literally, you get four hours of sleep
because they're on, I forgot what it's called,
but with the camera crew, they have strict hours
of when they can and cannot work,
and so we have to go with them,
and we don't have room to just sleep in a day.
Only four hours of sleep, geez.
So you don't even know if you're picking the right dude
at that point.
You're just delirious.
No.
If you're crying, you're just tired.
People are like, why is everyone crying?
I'm like, they're tired.
And they're hungry.
We're turning into babies.
That's crazy.
Has anyone actually married or stayed long term from this show?
Yeah, yeah.
The earlier ones, though, that's the thing.
Because as social media becomes more popular,
more people go on the show, the famous phrase
is, for the wrong reasons.
And so that's the unfortunate part,
is the exposure that these people get
and the opportunities they get kind of outweighs
a lot of the love, the potential love.
So a lot of the early ones definitely worked out.
They have kids.
They're married.
They're happy.
And then the more recent ones have been like six months
at the most for their engagements back to back to back
and then it ends.
Dang, oh so you get engaged.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
I was engaged to a Canadian at the time.
Really?
Yeah, during COVID.
So that was just like everything stacked against us
because traveling to Canada during COVID was like impossible.
You couldn't do it, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I think they banned it.
Yeah.
Oh, so that's why, so that ended. That ended, yes.
Damn.
I know.
Gave the ring back?
You have to.
It's never really your ring.
Yeah.
OK.
See, some girls keep it, though.
Well, there's a lot of rules around how you can keep it.
And even then when it's yours, if you go to sell it,
they get the first rights to buy it back.
Oh.
For the price they want.
I didn't know that.
So it's never really your ring.
Oh, so you just buy it back for a dollar.
Literally, yeah. Wow. I don't think that anyone's like taking it as far as being able to actually try and sell it
Because what's the point? Good to know um you recently moved to LA you start dating around here yet
I did try to date a little bit in LA, but I did just start dating a guy from New York. Whoa
Yeah, it's a long. It's long distance, but he's also a comic
so we kind of have the flexibility
of being able to travel and see each other,
and our lifestyles are obviously very similar,
so it's been going very well so far.
Props to you, distance is tough.
Yeah, yeah, well it's great because we actually,
we met, this isn't even public yet,
but I know this podcast will come out later,
but we met because we had plans to get drinks
when he was in town.
And I'd never met him before,
but we'd run obviously in the same circles.
And then he had to bail last minute
because he ended up in the hospital.
Yeah, he injured his hand, whatever.
And then we ended up chatting that night.
He's like, hey, sorry, I had to bail.
We chat all night.
And then for the next month,
we never see each other, we just chat.
And I think that's the difference of LA dating
and being really intentional with dating. If you talk to someone for a whole month without alcohol sex, you know seeing each other and you can still like vibe
Then like it's probably a good way to like start. That's a good sign, right? Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't happen often. I
Know it was the worst. I did I hated it so much. I did I dated like but on dates. I shouldn't even say dated
most of the guys were great, but there was one guy who
made a TikTok about our date, just such a clout chaser,
just this privileged 6'6 guy.
So us women.
I'm 6'6.
Look, this is what happens with you guys that are tall.
We ignore red flags.
We're like, oh, he's tall.
The red flags don't see him because they're way up there.
So there's a lot of things I ignored.
And then the next day, I was I was like no I think this guy's
literally walking red flag damn so comic in New York is it a kosh no all right
how was my one guess no no no cuz I know Schultz is married and I don't know any
other comic well I tried but good guess are you ever gonna publicize it cuz
public relationships are tough too right oh I mean we we're out in public together
He'll talk about me like on stage and stuff. So it's not it's not that we're hiding it
It's just we at this point on this date. We aren't like on social media. Got it, you know, that's where gets dicey
Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially like Bachelor Nation. They can be intense. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but he's a great comic
So he's not problematic. That's where you dip into bad territories.
If you date someone with a history, they'll find it.
They'll dissect that.
Damn.
So this guy, squeaky clean background.
Holy crap.
So the fans of the show are running background checks
on your boyfriend?
Oh, yeah.
I very short term dated a guy, a comic.
I must have a type.
You like comics?
Well, the thing is, it's kind of like being coworkers.
We get each other's industry, our work. We work comics. Well, the thing is, it's kind of like being co-workers. You know, it's like we get each other's industry,
our work, like we work late, we work with men and women.
It's a weird world, you know?
And a lot of people don't understand it,
unless you're in it.
And so it's just like, I guess, the easier person
to relate to.
But yeah, he had a little bit of a past
with who he hung out with.
And I never even posted about him.
They sleuthed it out based on, I'm not even
kidding, based on tags and stories and like that's his TV stand on her store. It's crazy.
That is nuts.
It's crazy. And then they start dissecting things that are like five plus years old and
I'm like, oh my God, this poor guy.
Yeah, that's rough.
Yeah.
So what is your style of comedy? Cause I've never seen someone on the bachelor at Be a
Comedian. That's pretty unique.
I mean, I'm new. So I mean, it's the low hanging fruit,
as I like to call it, which is like dating and sex
and what it's like to be in your 30s,
you know, like stuff that's just like relatable,
but like also personal to like my situation of like,
let me tell you about a bad date I went on.
Let me tell you about this sexually awkward experience
that I had, you know?
So it's just stuff like that,
but then also because I'm new, when I'm on the road,
I'll bring more experienced comics with me. And it's kind of like my way of like sharing the wealth sharing the stage sharing the audience
You know, it's like I'm only like a year and a half in
And I and I love it, you know
But I'm not gonna like stay on stage for 60 minutes and fake my way through that. No one's gonna have a good time
Yeah, so I'll do like 20 25 minutes
I'll bring in you know a an opener, a feature, whatever,
and just make it like a universal show.
That's just guaranteed everyone's gonna have a good time.
Yeah, 60 would be tough.
People do that though.
That's the thing that people screw up on
is they're like, oh, I have an audience,
and then they don't put in the time to perform,
to work it out on stage,
and then they just fake their way through it,
and then no one's buying tickets again.
I've performed now in Washington twice
and I've had people come for the second,
like a second time, you know?
And like that speaks volumes to like how much fun they had
and that's not even like a compliment to me,
it's just like how I run my shows.
You know, like again,
I'm gonna make sure I have good people there,
I'm gonna make sure I'm prepared
and that people wanna come back time and time again.
Yeah, that's cool.
Do you have the same material each show
or do you switch it up?
I mean, it varies.
It's like, someone who saw me last year might hear a joke,
but it's gonna be better a year from now
because now there's the longer version of it,
the tighter version of it.
You get rid of some of the extra stuff that doesn't matter,
and that just comes with time.
It's like, you figure out how to say that joke,
but it's just better.
So sometimes it's gonna be the same,
but then also there's just going to be new stuff inspired
from that topic that branches into a whole other story.
On the money side of things, I saw your Instagram video.
You did $21,000 one month.
Yeah, yeah.
That's pretty impressive for just starting.
I mean, yeah, but the thing is in that video,
I really break it down.
People think, oh, that's quick money.
And sure, it can be.
But then you deduct hotel, flight.
You're paying those
talented people that are joining you to come as well, you know, food, Ubers, all of a sudden
it starts to really like dwindle and that's all pre-tax, you know.
So as a like a former banker I just thought it would be like a fun video to be transparent
on like here's how much you know I made but then this much goes to the club and this much
goes to a manager and like really I think the take-home after
That might have been like I think eight thousand maybe okay once you deduct all costs and that was for like a weekend
Yeah, oh just for two shows that was that was three shows in that video that you're referencing got it
Yeah, so if you do that twice a month, that's pretty good money. Oh, yeah
Well, and you figure bigger comics are doing bigger venues. They're doing multiple shows in one night
Right, so like the more experience you get and the bigger your fan base is there's definitely money to be had Bigger comics are doing bigger venues. They're doing multiple shows in one night.
So the more experience you get and the bigger your fan base
is, there's definitely money to be had there.
Yeah.
And then the specials, too.
Oh, I mean, the specials, that's really
where it can pay off, too.
Yeah.
Nikki just launched one, which was perfect timing.
Oh, yeah.
She's had so many at this point, though.
She's amazing.
Yeah.
Is she the goat for the female comedians?
You know, I don't know.
I think it's all subjective.
My personal favorite is Allie Wong, Whitney Cummings.
I mean, there's so many.
Nikki's been in for a long time.
She's having her viral moments right now
with that latest roast and her specials and stuff.
But there's just so many great women in comedy.
I don't know if I could give her that title.
I don't know if I could give anyone that title,
because there's just so many great ones.
Yeah, comedy is so subjective to each person.
Truly, yeah.
That makes sense.
If you got offered a million dollars
to be roasted on television, would you do it?
Oh, for sure.
For a million?
Yeah.
I had a show last year in San Diego
where I was roasted for basically free.
Wow.
And it was super fun.
I can roll with the punches.
I mean, there were some pretty aggressive things.
Brady said he actually regretted it.
I mean, he probably made a fat bag.
He has a problematic past.
So obviously, that's going to hurt a little.
The worst thing I did was sell feet pics on OnlyFans maybe.
Oh, you did that?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
I held a dildo on The Bachelor.
I don't know.
That's not too bad.
Feet pics, I mean, I would sell a feet pic for money.
Yeah.
Well, here's the thing with the feet pics.
I didn't know that was a thing until I went on reality TV.
And then all the, I call them feet people,
because I don't know what to call them.
We're like, oh, you have really nice feet.
I didn't know that you could have nice feet versus not nice
feet or whatever.
And there's a website.
I don't know if you've ever heard it.
Feet Finder, right?
Well, no.
But you know that one.
No, WikiFeet.
It's a ranking for feet. So if you go to wikifeet.com, I'm not sponsored. You can search any celebrity, reality star, no, but you know that one. Now, WikiFeet, it's a ranking for feet.
So if you go to wikifeet.com, I'm not sponsored,
you can search any celebrity, reality star, whatever,
and it'll show the ranking and all these random feet photos.
No way.
Literally, it could be a foot photo that was for my story,
and someone will screenshot it and put it on this website.
What?
Yeah.
That is crazy.
How do they rank it?
I'm not a foot person.
I don't know, your arch, maybe the angle of the toe. I don't know, like your arch, maybe the angle of the toe.
I don't know.
Because also sometimes they like the bigger pinky toe.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But I apparently had nice feet.
So I was like, I'm going to see how this goes.
The first time I did it, I made 10 grand in like a week
from Feet Fix.
Donated to the Boys and Girls Club.
Because I was like, well, that was too easy. You donated all of it? Yeah. I would have kept some of it. I mean it to the Boys and Girls Club. Well, that was too easy.
You donated all of it?
Yeah.
I would have kept some of it.
I mean, it was just easy money.
And in some weird way, it felt like a Robin Hood moment of,
thank you, men.
I'm going to give it back to the children.
I don't need it.
Financially, it's whatever.
But it's just another platform of building a community, which
to me, community, no matter where it's from,
is just always important.
Yeah, I'm gonna research that site
for educational purposes.
I wonder, no, I really wonder what the top foot is
and like what goes into it.
That's interesting.
Yeah, I mean, it depends.
Like I think there's just different, you know,
some people like the tattooed foot,
people like will ask weird things.
Like I'm still learning.
Like, I don't know, they'll be like,
they wanna see your foot coming in and out
of like a high heel.
They wanna see your foot being tickled. They want to see.
Wow.
There's just, people love white socks, dirty socks. I don't know. It's all, I'd love to
know like the, like the psychic behind it.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Someone said it's, it reminds me of like their mother's feet. Like if they're a baby and
then like women, I don't know. Yeah. I can't relate, but I will never kink shame because
everyone has their own thing.
Everyone's got theirs. Yeah. I'm not public with mine. I don't think I ever will be. Oh, I can't relate, but I will never kink shame, because everyone has their own thing. Everyone's got theirs, yeah.
I'm not public with mine.
I don't think I ever will be.
Oh, but you have one.
I think we all do, right?
You have some, I'm sure.
No, I honestly feel like I'm kind of vanilla.
I think if I was to mention any of my kinks,
they're probably standard.
Like, oh, choke me, that's nice.
Choking, I'd consider, right?
But then there's ones that are beyond the entry level of kinks.
Handcuffs. I see even that. That's in movies. That seems like kinks. Handcuffs.
I see even that, like that's in movies,
that seems like a normal.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, I think that's, eh.
Well, you think that's kinky.
I think so, right?
Maybe I'm just vanilla, I don't know.
Well, I think that's just like,
if you're opening the door to kinks,
those are beginner kinks.
Okay.
You know, like standard.
So what's the next level?
Whips.
Okay.
Like BDSM.
What's that?
It's like where you get all like, I don't want
to describe this wrong.
But I think it's like with the leather and like a gag ball.
And like, OK, so you're probably vanilla too.
You should be OK with your kinks.
OK.
Damn, I didn't know.
You're like, whoa.
The fact you didn't even know what that word was,
that tells me your kinks probably pretty entry level too.
Well, I watched 50 Shades of Grey.
I think that was in there. Well, he gets a little wild, yeah. So that's not even kinky's probably pretty entry level too. Well I watched Fifty Shades of Grey, I think that was in there. No, that's, well he gets a little wild, yeah.
So that's not even kinky to you?
Well no, I mean I didn't watch the movie
but I know some of his, he has a whole sex room.
That's like king level of, yeah, of kink status.
I don't have a bedroom dedicated to that.
Yeah, maybe it comes with the age.
With the age experience.
Yeah, maybe we'll grow into it.
I guess we're vanilla for now.
Furries, that's a- I've heard of furries. That's a pretty intense one. Yeah, you we'll grow into it. I guess we're vanilla for now. Furries. That's a- I've heard of furries
That's a pretty intense one. Yeah, you wear a tail right? Or a full costume
Like a full-cloth like a mascot. That's crazy. I've seen a furry convention once. It was pretty cool
You went to it? Well, I didn't go to it
But they just as a group were walking through the town and I was like, oh and then that's funny because of the adults know
What that is, but the kids don't.
And so the kids are like wanting photos
with these like cats and dogs and tigers
and I'm like, I feel conflicted
because there's probably semen on that but you know.
Whatever.
Oh my gosh.
There's some furries at schools.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
I guess I have seen that.
Yeah.
It's like pre, pre-teen furbies.
Yeah and they're allowed to spit on people
without getting in. What?
Yeah because they're cats. What? Yeah so you can. You're lying. No I swear to God look it up. So allowed to spit on people without getting in. What? Yeah, cause they're cats.
What?
You're lying.
No, I swear to God, look it up.
So they could spit on you, you can't do shit.
In high school?
Yeah.
You can just spit on people.
Yeah, and there's litter boxes in their high school bathroom.
Okay, no, no, no, I've heard this.
I heard this was a hoax.
Was it?
Cause I heard the cat boxing, I was like,
there's no fucking way they're allowing that.
Okay, so maybe it's fake news.
I think it's fake news.
I want the evidence.
Yeah. Show me the real live footage of that. All right, maybe it's fake news. I think it's fake news. Ah. I want the evidence. Yeah.
Show me the real live footage of that.
All right, we'll have the producer research it then.
I mean, it is 2024.
It's not, like, it is believable,
but at some point you gotta be like...
I mean, it's believable.
Look at what's going on right now.
Wow.
What a...
I don't wanna get you canceled.
What a tangent.
There's some...
I've been canceled like 20 times.
Have you?
Yeah. Really? Yeah. Saying what? Well, it been canceled like 20 times. Have you? Yeah. Really?
Yeah.
Saying what?
Well, it's just like you just don't know.
The very first time I experienced being canceled
was I posted, I was fresh off The Bachelorette,
and I was posting a photo of me kissing my girlfriend's cheek.
Friend, that's a girl, her cheek.
And behind us was a neon sign that said, girls, girls, girls.
And my caption said, whatever floats your boat.
And then my girlfriend commented and was like,
tune in to see who she really picks, or something like that.
No big deal.
If we're drunk, I go to bed.
The next morning I wake up, I learn about the term
called queerbaiting.
I'd never even heard it before.
And basically, it's where you use queerness
to sell something.
And so it was just just this whole polarizing dialogue
on was it queerbaiting, was it not,
was what I posted okay, was it not?
And that was my first introduction to Bachelor Nation.
And I was like, oh, I am not trained
for any of this right now.
Queerbaiting, I've never heard of that.
I'm just gonna have to learn as I go.
And then shortly afterwards, I had a post again
where I typed Snowbunny.
Well, in Washington, that's a cute snowboarder girl
with her beanie, whatever, but on what's the website
where you search slang words?
Oh, Urban Dictionary.
Yeah, yeah, Urban Dictionary.
Snowbunny is a white girl who dates black guys
or a black guy who dates white girls
or someone who does coke.
I don't know, there were so many different terms and people like I couldn't believe you posted
snow bunny da da da. That's crazy there's a word for everything on that site. Yeah so I just like
I have to learn as I go you know I fuck up and then I'm educated and I go cool never again. And
you're kind of under a microscope with bachelor nation big time because they're just analyzing
all your posts. Everything. Dang so there's pros and cons of doing it. Yeah.
You know, when people ask me if they want to do it,
I always say, like, well, how is your mental health?
How strong are you mentally?
Because it is a rough road ahead for the next six months.
Wow.
Do you talk to the other girls about it?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, the bachelors are all in a group chat.
Oh, yeah?
That's cool.
Yeah.
It's not very active.
It's mostly like, happy birthdays,
congrats on the baby, you know. There's like 40 of you now though, right?
I think there's like 20 something of us.
Oh, 20 something.
Of the girls.
Oh, the girls.
Because then there's the guy side too.
And is the group chat separate?
Yeah, yeah, we don't talk to the boys.
Most of them end up sucking, so.
That's crazy.
And you went on FBoy Island recently?
Yeah, which Nikki was the host of.
Yeah, what was that like?
That was fun.
It was a lot better than my bachelor experience.
There's money to be won.
And so on reality TV when there's a prize, legally you cannot interfere.
And so you get to just exist as a contestant and do whatever the hell you want and it's fun.
Whereas like the bachelor, there's no prize, you know, except I guess me.
But like they can like manipulate, they can be like,
oh, this guy's talking shit about this guy,
and no, you can't see that guy.
There's just a lot of control that they have
that then determines what happens next.
And so it's not fun, because you're not in on the secret.
You're just like, who's knocking at my door,
and why are they leaving the show now?
That's funny.
Do you want to get more into acting?
It's funny you ask that because someone asked me that
I think yesterday and I was like,
I would love to be on a Hallmark movie.
I think that's like the highest level I could go.
Hallmark?
Hallmark and reality TV kind of have a similar vibe
in terms of like, oh, we're making out in the rain.
Oh, don't leave me for the farm.
That's, I don't know, whatever.
But it's just very lighthearted.
Yeah, now you're in LA too.
I know, so anyone from Hallmark listening.
Head her up, guys.
Christmas is just around the corner.
Just came from San Diego.
Why'd you leave Diego?
It's just a little slower paced.
I love it.
I love it there so much.
But when you're fresh in your career
and you're in entertainment whether that be comedy
Acting writing like right now. We're trying to sell a TV show. Everything is here in LA
Wow, and I was doing the drive for a bit and I was like, what am I doing?
Yeah, how far is the drive two and a half hours one way from she go to LA and I would do it the same day
Like round trip. Holy crap one time I drove two and a half hours just for a 15 minute spot here at the improv
Oh my god, they just drove back home.
Damn.
That is nuts.
I was like, what am I doing?
So now I live close to all these comedy clubs
and it just feels better to be here.
Yeah, how's the traffic though?
Traffic's brutal.
And like LA is so big.
It feels like a state on its own.
Like there's so many different neighborhoods
that's like, I get why people now in LA are like,
I don't date someone outside of like my like neighborhood because it can take
It could take 40 minutes just to get to like five miles from where you're at. We're crazy. That's annoying
Yeah, yeah in Vegas. We don't get that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well here. I'm complaining and now I'm dating a guy in New York
Yeah, I guess if he's worth it, you know, would you rather move to New York or make a move to you?
If you get to that point, I we've talked about it. Oh, yeah? Already? Yeah, yeah.
Honestly, I tell him all the time,
I'm like, I think you're going to win that argument.
Because I'm new to LA.
I don't have roots here necessarily.
My whole family's in Washington still.
And he's very rooted in New York.
And then his family's in Michigan.
So it's like, OK, fine.
When the time comes, you can win that.
But also, because we're both in the comedy scene,
there's a world of just being bi-costal.
And he's going to be traveling, doing shows,
because that's his primary focus.
Comedy, I'm so new to it.
It's just one of many things that I'll tap into
in the next five years.
Wow, so you don't have trust issues.
That's impressive.
I didn't say that.
I don't have trust issues with him, though.
Oh, god.
Still, for two months in, that's good.
Yeah, yeah.
That's earlier than most.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I don't know.
I'm 33 now.
And so you go on so many dates.
You have so many relationships.
You want to think the older you get,
the more you recognize exactly what you want and don't want.
Right.
Is it true you feel a lot of pressure in your 30s?
I don't, because I'm indifferent on kids.
But I think women who are like, for sure, they want kids, for sure feel that pressure. But for me, I'm like, kids, but I think women who are like for surely want kids for sure feel that pressure
You know but for me I'm like I'll adopt Wow she made that choice early. Oh, yeah
Yeah, I think by the time I hit 30 like I had to really reflect on that
I was like, you know, I grew up with a very unconventional family
So it's like to me it's not important. I like a sounds weird say blood, baby
But you know, like yeah, you know what I'm trying to say like for me
It's just like love is love,
and you know there's so many kids that need to be adopted.
Like if I ever couldn't have kids biologically,
there's still a kid that could use a mom.
Nice, I love that.
Well what do you got coming up next?
Any shows or any comedy things?
No, I mean I just tell people to follow me on Instagram,
that's where I'll announce stuff.
If I'm ever performing in LA,
I'll like announce it last minute.
Cause it's more for practice.
Get those reps and work on a joke or two.
But no, right now my biggest focus is selling a TV show.
So can't say much more about that.
We have some pretty big meetings next month.
So that's my primary focus.
Let's go.
Well, we'll link your Instagram below.
Thanks so much for coming on.
Yes, thanks for having me.
Thanks for watching guys, as always.
See you tomorrow.