Digital Social Hour - Derek Bonner Ran The San Francisco Night Light Scene | Digital Social Hour #129

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

On today's episode of The Digital Social Hour, we sit down with Derek Bonner to discuss what the nightlife scene was like in San Francisco, near-death experiences & how he gamed the casinos in Las Vegas to get free comps. BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] APPLY TO BE ON THE POD: https://forms.gle/qXvENTeurx7Xn8Ci9 SPONSORS: Opus Pro: https://www.opus.pro/?via=DSH HelloFresh: https://www.hellofresh.com/50dsh AG1: https://www.drinkAG1.com/DSH Hostage Tape: https://hostagetape.com/DSH LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You get you get scanned when you walk in if it's a gang member it tells the doorman it is but it says don't stop don't stop him. Right. And then he walks in and then you know 15 minutes later the game task force comes with like 18 guys in combat gear almost. Wow. And they walk up to the guy with the computer and they're like oh this is you pay your bill and get the f*** out. Like 30,000 escorts in Vegas. There's that many? Yeah. Jeez. I know they chill in the casinos at night right they chill in the casinos at night but you know it's it's one of those things it's like you know when i first was here i didn't i couldn't tell the

difference between normal yeah i hear that story all the time oh man and so i would just always assume every girl is in escort so welcome back to the digital social hour i'm your host sean kelly i'm here with my guest today derek vonner how's it going man it's going It's going well, man. Going well. Yeah, so you're pretty low-key, so you're gonna have to tell people exactly what you do and how you got started. Yeah, you know, there's a reason for that. Obviously, I used to be in the nightlife industry starting in maybe 1999, and then I moved to San Francisco and ran five different nightclubs and what happened was it was right about the time that Facebook came together and so one of the reasons that I have kept myself low-key was because

you know the first meeting with with Peter Thiel and who else was there? Zuckerberg. It was Sean Parker. Okay. And I think Sean Fanning was there originally. Wow. It was kind of interesting. So that was at a nightclub I ran.

They met at your club? That's insane. Yeah, they got a table. It was pretty wild. I mean, we had like Derek Jeter when, you know table it was pretty wild i mean we had like derrick jeter when you know it was close enough to 9-11 where he had secret service with him right so wow but yeah it was pretty it was pretty interesting and it was actually sean parker that got me on facebook originally he convinced me to to do it that's nuts yeah and then uh it was one of those things where

right at that time everybody was sharing every personal detail, everything you could possibly imagine about their lives. It's not quite like that now, I don't think. I mean, people share intimate information about on social there was litigations and things that happened where, you know, Facebook exposed them for the timeline. I mean, like anything else on the Internet. Yeah. They got a lot of information on people, man. No doubt about it. Yeah.

And then, you know, I got involved. I stopped doing operations around 2010 and I got involved with just more consulting on hospitality litigations going through just you know the the legal system which is i'm sure you've you've experienced a little bit yourself which is crazy and broken and yeah it's all pay to play yeah it doesn't work at all and then when we finally get to to court on these projects the judge is like oh had no idea how to award damages for a hospitality business because there's so many factors on what can go wrong, you know, especially a nightclub. I mean, the nightclub, by the time we get to court, they've already had, they've had a bad operator, they've had shootings, they've had everything else you can imagine. So it was, it was, uh,

it was pretty interesting. But what, what happened was I started consulting on other nightclubs, people that were going in through partnership disputes or maybe they had a shooting outside or a shooting inside. And I had such a good relationship with the police and the city that they actually asked me to help a couple of different times. And that's actually what got me out of that business and changed my perspective a lot. I went to a hearing because there was a club in San Francisco.

It was an assassination. Somebody got shot twice in the head with a silencer. Jeez. Yeah, it was like a gang hit. Wow. And the head of the entertainment commission at the time called me and asked me if i could help them reopen make sure they have cameras make sure they have like some procedures in place and then right before i go to this

hearing because it's a public hearing i'd already spoken to the to the police at that point we'd already come up with some plan and And right before I go to this hearing, she's like, hey, can you find an ID scanning company? So I go online. I find a company that I think is cool. It looked really good to me. I contacted them. They sent me the information. And I walk into this hearing. And as part of my presentation, I presented the ID scanning company. So what happened was the entire city of San Francisco went nuts. The media went nuts. I walk out of this thing and there's five, six reporters calling me.

There's people like blowing up my phone, blowing up my assistant's phone, blowing up our company. Like it is, it is absolutely crazy. Um, and none of the articles, none of the news coverage is good. It's terrible. It's like big brothers coming to San Francisco and like, everyone's blaming me. Like I I'm like, my career is over. I'm screwed. Like, what do I do now? Um, but you know, a couple minutes later, I got a call from the developers. And they're like, hey, we're going to come down. We've never had press like this. Wow. And we ended up working out a deal with them.

And me and a partner went in and started developing this with them. And it became legislation in Alberta Canada and now that company is the biggest ID scanning company in the world amazing but what was interesting about that was just watching you know I don't think people realize the amount of information that's it that's in your ID I, it's not just your name and address. It's DMV records. It's all kinds of stuff. So when you walk into a casino here and they're scanning your ID

or you scan your ID in the normal place, you really don't know what they're taking off of that. And Canada is really strict. Each province has different rules like you have to the server has to be in like a high secure facility where you get weighed in and weighed out when you walk out has bank encryption you're only allowed to keep like very limited data and then you can keep it for in one province it's 24 hours one it's a month and uh but privacy people are are definitely the most intense right and i think that was a big portion of why i i stayed off of social media and

i stopped doing any kind of interviews or anything at that point because man after they just i'm breaking your cherry man yes it's been a while so um you said the id scanner this fascinated me has saved some people's lives especially the gang people right could you explain how yeah it's really interesting um you know the the reason that uh that this became such a big thing in canada i mean we don't have the same issues that canada has you know canada has a massive gang problem. And, you know, people always, every time I tell people this, they're like, oh, Canada has gangs? But Canada has really intense gangs.

I mean, they have a gang called the United Nations. They have every ethnic gang in the world pretty much is there. The Hells Angels are huge. They run Canada. Wow. Even now, I think it's just, it's different. They don't come out in colors. They own all the buildings downtown.

Wow. No, so it's, but what would happen is the, if you're a known gang member, you're not allowed in a bar in Canada. So these guys would come in in colors or come dressed down and the doorman wouldn't alert the men they would leave and then drive by and shoot him and you know then there was a bunch of other incidents where people would killed inside of of nightclubs and because of because of the security technology at the time,

you know, you have surveillance cameras, but it's low light, there's flashing lights. And so, and then how do you identify the person? Like they just see like a guy in dark clothes like stab somebody. And then how do you find out what happens? They never find them. So in Alberta, how do you find out what happens they never find them so in in in alberta

once this id scanner went in it it almost eliminated it almost eliminated that kind of violence and it's it's kind of crazy how it happens you just walk you you get you get scanned when you walk in if it's a gang member it tells the doorman it is but it says don't talk don't stop him right and then he he walks in and then you know 15 minutes later the game task force comes with like 18 guys in combat gear almost wow and they walk up to the guy with the computer and they're like oh this is you pay your bill and get out just for being part of a gang yeah being part of a gang like you also can't leave the country when you're part of a gang yeah so if you're a known gang member in canada you can't leave the country really yeah it's it's pretty bizarre wow i didn't know that i mean i mean from from

my perspective i i think that you know i mean obviously they have they have different rights but yeah I don't think you could do that in America it's like being a felon in America right you can't leave yeah but I mean in you know they don't let you go in a bar but Wow back to your event so you were able to collect millions of email addresses yeah yeah so over the years we've collected just an enormous amount showed me it it was something I think you were like the biggest client on Eventbrite at one point so walk me through that whole come up well you know it was when when Eventbrite started and again this is this is around you know

the 2008 2009 times maybe a little bit before but you know, the 2008, 2009 times, maybe a little bit before. But, you know, being in San Francisco, that's right where all that stuff started. And, you know, they were spending tons and tons of money on marketing. And we just jumped on board. Right timing. Yeah, right timing. And, you know know we obviously were doing a lot of events right so it just it just worked out yeah um what were some of the craziest things that have happened at your venues oh man you know i've i think the the hardest part about being in that industry is

you you have to watch a lot of violence and people get drunk they act crazy i mean there was there was a period in san francisco where i was on first name basis with probably every russian gangster in the city and it and it was you know it wasn't my choice it was like it it was it was by default right they they would come to the club all the time and i had to maintain a relationship with them so they didn't because they spent big so you want to keep them as a customer yeah but they spent big but they were also they'd also get in fights and really bad fights and so if i didn't have a relationship with them they didn't respect us so you know it was it was one of those things where i

i definitely had a bulletproof vest in my bag for days that i wasn't comfortable going home yeah um but you know i just i watched a lot of violence and i mean even after i i stepped out of that industry i couldn't even watch ufc fights for a long time really why well i just i watched these these kids get stomped on the ground and you couldn't stop them once they get across the street we can't we can't step in so you had ptsd almost oh man and i every time even now when i see the guy and he's knocked out and the guy's punching him i i gotta get up and leave i hate watching that yeah it's traumatizing and you know it was one of those things no matter what would happen i would walk outside and whoever they were throwing out would walk over to me and punch me in the face.

All the security would all laugh at me because it just happens. It was always girls, but it was like the funniest. It didn't matter if there was police there. It was a running joke. Oh, yeah. It didn't matter. It didn't matter. You ever have to get in a physical fight with a guy?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it happened all the time. i can't even picture you like doing that you know it was always in defense of other people right so it wasn't i was never the aggressor i just i hate watching people get hurt and it was one of those things like even though i was running that club i i would go in to the fight because i had you know eight security making sure I was safe okay so when I went in it was like I would try to negotiate with people while they're fighting which is kind of crazy yeah it worked a lot of the times and sometimes it didn't Wow how are people sneaking

weapons in these clubs I mean the thing is it's really hard to to uh to get all the guns i mean we weren't really using metal detectors we were patting down at some point but most of the places were were you know we were relying on the clientele to be a little bit more high end and obviously that's that's changed over the years but but i mean everybody puts metal detectors in but man i mean they they sneak it in with the in their girl's purse um you know a lot of the times like they they want the guys for guns but they don't they don't they don't think that the girl's bringing in the gun right that's the majority of the time that that comes in it's it's with the girl you said you had drake pull up one night right oh yeah we didn't

we did an event with with drake at san francisco city hall and it was it was completely crazy i mean it was it was a it was after a concert it was uh there was about 3 000 people there and the sheriff's department in san francisco was doing security so um i knew we were in trouble right off the bat because when he walks in they they frisked him the old mayor yeah so that didn't that didn't go over well and then um he he goes to the section and they kick out all of these tables like these all these tables are spending like 10,000, $20,000 to sit next to Drake and the, and the sheriff's department kicks out all of the tables and they're standing around him.

Like, like man, the manager comes over and he's like, man, we're, we're, we're not into this. This is terrible. Um, we don't, we don't, we don't feel safe with all the police yeah and in the so he he left and and then the the san francisco sheriff's department lines up outside in riot gear jesus like they got guys walking around with with with like battlefield gear on with ar-15s and it it's like, bruh. Just because Drake left, he got pissed?

Well, I mean, no, but they were doing it to start with. That was part of the problem. I mean, they were expecting a riot or something, and they created this situation. That's insane. What other celebrities pulled up and it just got wild? I mean, I think that was the wildest i mean there's there's been a lot i i i was actually i did uh probably i did a show with lady gaga in 2008 whoa that's her peak it well i mean she she hadn't blown up at that oh

that's before yeah it was right before she blew up and uh she performed with two other people on us on a subwoofer on a what on a subwoofer on a speaker oh and she was she was absolutely fantastic the funnier part it was i mean i got so much uh flack for booking her everyone like laughed at me and then yeah two months later she's like the biggest thing on the planet. She texted all those guys. Yo, you still laughing? That's funny. Steve Aoki used to be a DJ right when he started. He used to be a resident DJ for me. Oh, nice.

Walk me through the residency model because I know that's big in Vegas. Is it big in other cities? It is. I mean, it's just somebody that you book monthly um you know when i when i started when i started working with steve like he he he was famous already but he wasn't famous for being a dj and that was another guy that like you know there was a lot of a lot of djs that that kind of talked about him really but man steve was the best guy like he was the nicest guy he was really good he you know wow yeah i can't imagine talking about him he just seems like such a nice guy they they didn't think he was a real dj at the

time oh so they were jealous they were jealous that's absolutely what it was it was jealousy yeah 100 but yeah it was cool um uh dj am used to play for us a lot um who else uh dj premiere that was pretty interesting grandmaster flash okay i've had a couple really really interesting conversations with him he's he's like he's really really intense and and then but the same breath he's like right right so i want to talk about something insane. You are the only person that I know that has been able to beat the Vegas reward system. Yeah, so. I got to hear this.

When I moved to Vegas, I didn't really gamble at all. And then one of these times, I actually got a flat tire. I just bought a new car. I clipped a curb on the way into Cosmo to go to a meeting. And my tire was flat, and I was on the second level. And, of course, there's no spare tire. Oh, you were inside the parking garage? Yeah, I was inside the parking garage.

Oh, she couldn't even parking garage you couldn't even leave i couldn't even leave so the tow truck guy comes and he's like oh we need a flatbed but we can't bring a flatbed in ah and so i i got i got pissed walked away um my phone dies and so i start playing blackjack and i i i end up making you know,500 out of $200. And it just started me gambling a little bit. And then maybe like a year, year and a half later, I went through this terrible breakup. And I started gambling on December 31st and I went into this this vendor where I ended up spending about $30,000 but you know in that 24 hours I I went up and down you know four or five hundred thousand dollars she not at one time I

mean it was obviously but it's right out yeah it's i mean i was gambling for 24 hours yeah but what happened was i i was because of that and because the the reward system resets every year i was in the top 20 gamblers at caesar's entertainment for you know maybe a few hours or a day or so. Oh, January 1st. Yeah. And in the same breath, I got the highest gambling card at Caesars. But because I got it on the 31st and then I got more points on the 1st, I got it for two years. Whoa. on the first i got it for two years whoa yeah so in uh in 2019 i they gave me almost 300 comp hotel rooms that's insane and those are like 300 a night oh yeah and it wasn't it didn't just stop there it was so much stuff i mean they were calling me about about concerts like the first

one of the first people to get calls about tickets yeah oh is that a new thing cuz yeah they give out the the Vegas Golden Knights tickets now at the time like I mean this is this is 2018 yeah COVID so just started yeah it was it was pretty wild and you know for that for this next year I mean I I got so many benefits and then I just barely I would barely play at all Yeah, and I I probably spent like two or three thousand dollars after Wow because it lasts a year it will it would last it was I have two years because Because I because right when they reset. Yeah, it all goes to zero on 31st. So on the 31st this year You're gonna go back again

That's the thing, you know, you're going to go back and play again? Well, so that's the thing. It worked. I went through a whole year. Eventually, they got a little mad and kicked me out. Because you were not gambling enough? Yeah, I wasn't gambling at all. And I was still getting comp rooms and free everything. Man, the comp rooms alone.

I mean, there's so many conferences here that you're just saving so much. Oh, man. And it was cool, too. They had these lounges. they're called diamond lounges i don't i don't think they have them anymore but they they would open at like noon or two o'clock and they would stay open till midnight wow and i could bring four people in there it was a open premium bar they served dinner they served food twice sign me up for that oh yeah it was great i mean i i instantly moved all of my meetings there and then you know i met a bunch of really big investors because they're big gamblers wow yeah they kind of go hand in hand big gamblers and people with

a lot of money that invest yeah so you know i after after this happened, I kind of realized, you know, I met a bunch of people that were actually living in the casinos. And they were living off of their points. Just taking advantage, yeah. Yeah, and one of the ways that they did it was they would give their, they'd get a bunch of copies of their card. And they would give them to all their friends so they're when their friends come into town they're gambling and they're accumulating points for them and then they're getting to yeah because they don't ID you when you show the card right I mean I think the only time that you could get in trouble for that is if you win and cash out yeah I mean it was a little different for me because i was i was at a level with caesars where

when i put my card in a host would come over and shake my hand wow you're on a first name basis with them it was pretty it was it was pretty weird at first yeah that's but did you have your own host you could text to you know i i did initially but i i never took advantage of that yeah and it wasn't until uh uh when when covid when covid, the shutdown happened, I lived at Vera, Aria. And it was very, very crazy because the whole strip shut down, all the casinos shut down. And the thing about Vegas is Vegas isn't designed to have the casino shut down. Not at all. The security structure is designed for each of the casinos to police their area or the police will be inside of the casinos. Right. So when the casinos are shut down, the police are in the street.

So for the police to get from the street to the sidewalk is like a 15 minute really yeah i mean they they have to they have to drive around all those barriers wow oh because they shut down even the entrances you're saying right because a lot of the times you got to drive through those to get somewhere you know yeah so it was it was like it was like being out here with mad max it was crazy it was like bicyclers going down it was dead I remember looking out and seeing just nothing. I mean, even for me, I used to jog down the strip, and there was a point where I stopped because it was too dangerous. Too scary.

Man. Yeah. And then, but, you know, what happened after that is I started going to, you know, the only things that opened were casinos. So, again, i started gambling again gambling again and you know the same thing happened yeah and you know i i currently have a uh you know one of the highest player cards at cosmopolitan yeah and you know cosmo has a really valuable card it's probably the best high valuevalue card, honestly, with what they do.

Well, it's really cool, man, because the other casinos tier match it. Oh, smart. So right after I got that card, I got a Platinum card with MGM. I have an Ace card with Resorts World. Even the Wynn matched it at one point wow yeah i used to have the wind black that thing was sexy man yeah and then you know it also it also is attached to uh the marriott so you get a high level marriott card and then i would go and uh through mgm i got a high-level Hyatt card. Sick.

So you are just status matching everywhere. Oh, man. And what got even better about that was all of those groups have different rewards that they're attached to. So MGM has a deal with Southwest and obviously Hyatt, and you can transfer your points. Oh, I didn't even know that. Yeah, so when you get an MGM room, and obviously hi and you can you can transfer your points oh i didn't even know that yeah so when you when you get a an mgm room if you if you have your your southwest account attached

you get points for that dude i wish i knew that because i've gotten so many mgm and cosmo rooms oh man i i've cleaned up on that it's it's crazy so now you're flying for free too on top of it flying for free i mean you know cosmopolitan gives a ton of good benefits wow you know it all of these places all these cards now it's free parking free valet yeah the valet is clutch yeah which you doesn't doesn't seem like a lot but it's no it's a lot mentally because that walk from cosmo a lot dude it's a long walk it's a lot to the restaurants um you cosmo a lot dude it's a long walk it's a lot to the restaurants um you're one of the best networkers i know you just came back from dubai you were with the craziest people in the crypto space how did you get so good at networking

well i i think that you know i think necessity but yeah i think uh you know being in the nightclub industry for so long i think that's all i was really doing at some point you know after a certain amount of time you know i wasn't really doing any of the operational stuff i was just hanging out with the vips and making sure they'd come back and but building relationships and again i mean we're we're we're meeting people like you know peter thiel and yeah and so your advice to people would be put yourself in a situation where high level people are going to basically yeah and you know night night life and and that type of stuff is is a is a good place to network as long as you're just not there to drink and party that's where people mess up i think they they get drunk and then

yeah they don't realize like who they're who they're next to right you got people coming in that you couldn't get a meeting with yeah because if they're buying a table they're spending 5 10k they got money for sure i mean every every time you go out is a is a great networking opportunity yeah and it's like you know obviously there's a lot of other ones now and as you know in in 2008 in those times i mean it was it was a little bit different and you know when we when we moved to uh to vegas i mean vegas is the best place to do that though so many clubs here man there's so many clubs and and everyone comes out and they go to the same places yeah they always end up at excess they end up at marquee now it's zook yeah zook one of the tau group places yeah which

i guess is everything now yeah so what's your strategy say you pull up to a club like are you just going up to tables how do you approach things i mean i mean that's the thing i usually only go in um now when when i'm with somebody that that wants to go out but in you know in the beginning it was just you know get your foot in the door at one table and then you you start networking with all the other tables nice i like that yeah i don't i don't go out to clubs but that's one thing i would consider doing i mean there's some good people there yeah it's hard it's hard for me now yeah to do that i much prefer networking events yeah and you know any kind of any kind of business or crypto related events but I mean I think the other key

is you got to travel yeah I mean there you can't just sit in one place you can't not move you got to have movement absolutely not doing anything how do you balance dating with your lifestyle because you travel almost more than anyone I know I think and you're super successful as well so do you get a lot of interesting people coming your way well you know it's it's dating's really hard and i think that that living in vegas and dating is is extremely hard um you know i i don't think people realize this but there's like 30 000 escorts in vegas there's that many yeah jeez i know they chill in the casinos at night right they chill in the casinos at night but you know it's it's one of those things it's like

at some point it's you know when i first was here i didn't i couldn't tell the difference between normal yeah i hear that story all the time oh man and so i would just always assume every girl was an escort so i wouldn't talk to. I've heard stories of they're hooking up in the casino. They go upstairs, 500 bucks. What? I mean, I don't know. I think it's just Vegas is also, I mean, it's changed in the past few years. Since you moved here especially, it's a little different because there's more of a community.

It was very transient for a while. So it was one of those things it was it's it's really hard to date here and you know moving to Miami it's Miami is the same thing it's that's I might be even tougher it's more materialistic the girls all speak Spanish yeah problems I guess but yeah you know dating is really tough man you you have to you have to decide i mean i know i know some people have a good relationship balance with work but you know i i've i'm not really that good at it i've really had to sacrifice a lot of relationships

for for the movement right so you don't think there's a balance, it's just all in? No, there is a balance. I think the best thing to do is to find one really solid girl that can hold you down and be at your house when you come home and support you emotionally and, you know. Yeah, I attribute a lot of my success to that. I was lucky and found that early, you know? Yeah, man, it's one of those things. I think I when I went into this gambling spree is because I lost one of those.

But and the cause of that was you just working too much, basically. Yeah, it was me working too much. That's always what it is with entrepreneurs. I noticed we choose the work and then we don't want to balance a time out with them well and now now it's terrible because i i just my tolerance is so small that like i i just i mean any little thing i'm out yeah they say it gets tougher the older you get right oh yeah it's definitely because the dating pool they start getting worried in the 30s about having kids well that that's the problem now now everyone wants to have kids they want to rush into it to be fair like i'm not ready for that so i don't want to i don't want to deceive somebody and

pretend like i'm yeah gonna do that we just had someone come on he was i think 61 you just had a kid yeah i'm on i'm on that path i was like i haven't heard of that late but to each their own you know no you know i mean i i've i have some really amazing girls in my life that are our friends but you know i like i said dating's really difficult and i think i think when once you you realize that that isn't the focus you're able to build more genuine relationships absolutely so you believe guys and girls can be friends yeah i mean they they can i mean obviously they i think there's always some sort of sexual tension or some some you know something could happen at any point so i i'm just saying like there is there is's i don't know if i would i would feel really

comfortable with with my my wife having a bunch of guys that are her friends that i didn't know right yeah there's a limit for sure because just human instinct right yeah but but i think yeah well that's exactly it it's it's human instinct yeah but i mean yeah i think guys and girls can be friends yeah yeah i agree with you though my girl nah she can't have like 10 guy friends she has a gay guy friend which i'm cool with but yeah i mean i i have i have a couple people in my life that are you know i i look at as brothers and like i'm i'm comfortable with them right yeah that's different for sure but um what's next for you man well uh you know it's funny because we actually developed something that was kind of uh it's kind of a play on on this casino rewards oh yeah let's hear it um it's it's a it's a

it's a blockchain based rewards program that is program that is kind of a mixture between the concierge you get with American Express and then the casino rewards program from the Cosmo. But it's blockchain-based. Our development company is probably the world leader in financial security when it comes to currency. They make the security features for currency in 80 countries. It's a German company. It's been quite an experience. Ironically, I met them at CES last year. Nice.

I wasn't even thinking I was going to come to ces and i yeah i i ran into them there and and they completely changed my life when i conferences man that one was overwhelming though i didn't know where the hell to go like i think i even met no we did but you know the thing is like most of it wasn't good. Yeah. Yeah. Like the actual conference wasn't good, but just, man, I met two or three relationships out of that that are. That's all it takes. Oh, man. Just meet one or two guys every conference. Yeah.

Change your life. And that's the justification for going out and doing that stuff. You know, I showed up every day. I wore a suit every day, even when I was tired, even when I didn't want to even when i didn't you know i met them on the last day wow i i couldn't walk for a week afterwards because it was so spread out yeah we walked like three miles that day i think for sure take the tesla loop yeah that was a good uh man uh where can people find you um well you could you could check out our new project it's uh uh key to dot io um like i said it's it's uh it's the key to each city so it's a it's a key to.io. Like I said, it's the key to each city.

So it's a membership rewards program that is your actual key to each city where we're going to launch during Formula One in Vegas in November. In obviously Vegas, we're doing New York San Francisco LA Miami and then after that it's London Dubai Abu Dhabi Paris Geneva and you know South America love it man thanks for watching guys digital social hour I'll see you next time