Digital Social Hour - Diddy's Downfall: The Real Story Behind the Scandal | Charleston White DSH #794

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

Dive into the gripping world of "Diddy's Downfall" as we uncover the real story behind the scandal that’s shaking up the entertainment industry! 🎤💥 Join Sean Kelly on the Digital Social Hour f...or an explosive conversation packed with valuable insights and insider secrets you won’t want to miss. 😲 From controversial celebrity parties to daring political discussions, this episode covers it all! Engage in authentic conversations and explore the unfiltered truths behind the headlines. Tune in now and join the conversation with Sean Kelly and our special guest, as they navigate through today's hottest topics. Watch now and subscribe for more thrilling stories and insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 Don't miss out on this wild ride! #latestnews #baninstagram #parlerapp #instagramshadowban #freedomofspeech CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 04:04 - Charleston's Instagram 07:14 - Jaguar Wright 09:32 - Diddy Controversy 10:28 - Diddy Snitching Speculations 12:39 - Maintaining Success 14:22 - Navigating Cancel Culture 18:18 - Thoughts on Trump 20:24 - Racist Narrative Effectiveness 22:40 - Capitalism vs Socialism 24:00 - Government Assistance 27:28 - Overcoming Negative Mindsets 29:40 - Financial Aid and Poverty 34:00 - Recidivism: Why People Return to Prison 38:39 - Returning to Streets After Prison 40:48 - Importance of Father Figures 45:33 - Being Present for Your Kids 48:00 - Adam22 Interview Costs 48:10 - Upcoming Adam22 Interview 48:23 - Outro APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com GUEST: Charleston White https://www.instagram.com/officialcharlestonwhite https://www.youtube.com/@TheFanBus SPONSORS: Parler: https://parler.com/ Sambrosa: https://sambrosa.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:03 You don't want the government giving you no money for how many babies you have. You don't want the government feeding your family if you can't feed it. That's communism in almost a fashion. So we want the freedom to be able to pursue the American dream, life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And also have the government tell you what, when, who, and where. Tired of feeling like your voice is being drowned out on social media. It's time to experience the new parlor where your voice is heard.
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Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah, yeah, I'm hardly here. So I'm the go-to guy with the money now. So yeah, yeah. You think money changed you up a little bit? Yeah, money changes everything. Yeah, I like the honesty, at least, because some people will admit that it doesn't. Yeah, you know, at first, I didn't wear, you know, Gucci shoes. I got a pair of Gucci's now, man.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yeah, you know, I used to make fun of the niggas that bought the Gucci's. But no, man, nothing feels greater than to be able to take care of your family without any problems and any worries and then still have some extra means to take care of your mom, fulfill your kids' dreams and desires, you know, financially, put them in positions to be better individuals and people. So, yeah, that feel good. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And it also changes your mindset. So certain things I don't do anymore, certain places you just don't go anymore. Yeah. Like what? Certain strip clubs. Yeah, certain strip clubs, certain environments. So the earlier part of this year, you know, I kind of live downtown Bishop Arch District. So it's kind of a fine line of where gentrification in the hood is starting to divide one another. So I didn't want to put my quilts and my comforters in the washing machine.
Starting point is 00:03:56 So I went to a laundromat in the area. And some young guys tried to rob me for my jewelry. Yeah, for my jewelry. But in my mind, I'm thinking I could normally, you know, just walk into a laundromat and it not happen. But, yeah, somebody tried to rob me. You think they knew you or you think it was just – Yeah, they knew exactly who I was because one of the guys asked to take a picture with me. And so that's what made a red flag go up because he said,
Starting point is 00:04:22 man, Charleston in the hood. Well, in my mind, the real estate people don't say this is the hood. This is a new district. So I left and came back. I went to the grocery store and came back. And when I came back, that's when they tried to rob me. Damn.
Starting point is 00:04:36 But I didn't cooperate. I still got my jewelry. You think that was like a smart move? Because some people will kill you for that. It was a natural reaction. For one, I was in shock. Like, man, I can't believe this shit. You know, cause in my mind, ain't nobody gonna bother me.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I'm from here. You know what I'm saying? And I'm a well respected guy around here. So yeah, in my mind, ain't nobody gonna do this. So when it happened, it was shocking, but yeah. You held your ground. It was just a natural reaction, you know. Fight or flight.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Yeah, yeah, it was a natural reaction. Damn, sorry to hear that, man. Is your Instagram still banned? What Fight or flight. Yeah, yeah. It was a natural reaction. Damn. Sorry to hear that, man. Is your Instagram still banned? What happened with that? Yeah, it's still gone. It's been like a month, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:10 This is the first time I've never been able to get it back. Can somebody help me? I've been trying, man. Everyone wants money, though. That's the thing. Well, it depends on how much they want. Yeah. Because it does make a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I mean, shit. I put you in touch with Zach, but maybe we'll figure it out. Okay, cool. Yeah, you need that shit back, man. It's not the same without you on there. That's what people say. A lot of my Kamala Harris posts was being flagged and reported, so I think that had a lot to do with it.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Yeah. What were you saying about her? A lot. You know, just a lot about the election, you know, the Democratic Party, her questionable history, you know, with Democratic Party, her questionable history, you know, with her part in her promiscuous years in college. Yeah, I was going in pretty hard. So just attacking her character, basically.
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Starting point is 00:07:49 Just for making jokes about Kamala. Yeah, yeah. So typically, I have some friends in the entertainment industry. Shout out Hollywood Unlocked, Jason Lee, who I made a call who once got my, he got my Instagram back for me on my birthday. So when I lost it, I reached out to him,
Starting point is 00:08:17 but I know he's, him and Kamala are good friends. Oh, he's friends with Kamala? He's very good. He's a very good friend with kamala i didn't know that so and so uh yeah i haven't heard back from him so wow yeah what's up jason damn i didn't know he was with kamala like that yeah they good they good friends oh crap and yeah they good friends she's got some powerful endorsements recently taylor swift irs a few other big celebrities yeah a lot of big ones, man. She got hip-hop artists.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Everybody across the board. Yeah, well, hip-hop, that's been a known thing that the Democrats have a lot of pull in that space. Yeah, but they normally don't get guys like Plyce. You know, Plyce was a, that's a gangster, gangster. You know, normally they don't reach that low. That's true, yeah. Yeah, they don't reach low.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah, you know, to try to inform the uninformed with this presidential vote. They must have offered him a bag, man. Yeah, because he's adamant about it. Oh, yeah, he's pushing it hard? Yeah, he's pushing it hard. Damn. What do you think about Jaguar Wright right now going after some people? Have you seen her videos?
Starting point is 00:09:21 I've seen a lot of her videos. I don't watch them in length. She's like a pot of gumbo. Truth, facts, bullshit, lies, exaggeration, all made into one. And it's you to try to figure out if you listen long enough or if you're interested to see if she's being honest or if what she's saying is the truth. Some of the stuff she's saying is honest or if it's what she's saying is the truth. Some of the stuff she's saying is happening.
Starting point is 00:09:47 60% of what she's saying is. Yeah, it's pretty interesting. This Diddy stuff is crazy. A lot of people are going to be falling off from this. I think more people were participating I think more people participated and played with it than than than what we think so many you see ceos resigning of music labels not not only that no one have ever shamed him for it no one have when you watch the jeffrey epstein's uh documentary on netflix at some point the other elite people were saying
Starting point is 00:10:25 who is that guy what do we actually do well where'd he get his money from so when things would be said about him there were people who would shy away from him they wouldn't take pictures with him no more they wouldn't be seen with him anymore nobody ever did that to Sean Combs. Nobody. So even now, nobody from no major black platform have came out and publicly shamed him even when Cassie came with the lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:10:54 It's always been whispers. Right. None of his friends are speaking out. LeBron hasn't said anything. And they seem pretty sympathetic to what he's going through. I haven't heard no one come out and say, lock him up and throw away the key like they've done R. Kelly. Because most people have been to his parties knowing what goes on at the after parties of his parties.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Whether they participated, whether they spectated, whether they was there or not. Everyone had knowledge that this went on at these parties because there's always been speculation. Or it's always been a dark cloud that's kind of been held over his head with rumors in the industry. Right, but why do you think now was the time they chose to attack him? Cuz it seems really planned out, right? Two things I believe that I believe this is happening. One, when he spoke out and tried to boycott,
Starting point is 00:11:45 was it the Oscars or the Grammys? I don't remember which one. So a few years ago, they wanted to boycott. And so he spoke to a room full of Hollywood executives, movie producers and executives, music executives, and he spoke to them as if he could tell them what to do, as if they was wrong for not adding more black people so and he spoke with a boldness
Starting point is 00:12:09 and a conviction as if he was above them I said man he in trouble the second was the liquor company that he's in the lawsuit dispute with he's pushing back the other Ciroc company he's been pushing back toward them. I didn't even know about that lawsuit. Yeah, I think that was his downfall. Damn. Yeah, I mean, we'll see what happens. What are your predictions?
Starting point is 00:12:33 Do you think he'll find a way out of this one? The feds got a 98, almost 100% conviction rate. So it's hard to beat the feds. They don't want your money. They want your ass. Yeah, the feds, when they gets um they don't want your money they want your ass yeah the feds when they get you they don't want your money uh bernie madoff they don't want the money they want your ass they want you locked up yeah the only thing that could get you out of the feds is information what can you tell us to get us somebody else right so you give us the right information they let sammy the bull go he had over two dozen murders but he us the right information. They let Sammy the Bull go. He had over two dozen murders, but he gave the right information to go be free again.
Starting point is 00:13:08 So, yeah, you can tell to get out. Where do you rank Diddy on this totem pole? Like you think he's able to provide information and there's higher ups that he could tell on? Yeah, yeah. Do you think he's at the top? I believe he's the top or the bottom. Yeah, he's at the top of us, but he's the bottom of them. So he's not a part of the 1% of people who control the world.
Starting point is 00:13:36 He's not a part of that 1%. I believe he was a pawn. Wow. Yeah, I believe he was a pawn. Damn. That's crazy because he was in a lot of A-list celebrities lives in one way or another right he was connected oh man we can go back to the obamas to the clintons uh man the who's who of america yeah and he walked with that confidence he he acted like he was pretty much untouchable in all the videos i've seen yeah so you know the the you know he was
Starting point is 00:14:04 with the elite in the Who's Who of America. And so he was flying Cassie all around the world. You know? You ever have any dealings with him or? No, I just made it to this level of success. Man, yeah, no, man, I was a pole n***a when he was doing all this. No, I just made it to this level of success when i when they were having all the parties i wasn't nowhere near this financial yeah now you're getting invited though yeah yeah yeah i done
Starting point is 00:14:33 peaked in a few rooms before you're gonna be at the whiteout party next year i hope i do yeah yeah i hope i do i got your perfect outfit i could see you there man no you're really blown up but you're also maintaining it like a lot of people blow up and fall off, you know? Yeah. Growth and development. And I have an intention to evolve. I don't want to stay the same doing this. Hollering on the internet, cussing out street guys,
Starting point is 00:15:00 and fuck you, motherfucker, fuck you. I believe I got some talent. You know, I believe I can act. So, you you. I believe I got some talent. You know, I believe I can act. So, you know, I took in a few movies. I believe I'm good in doing stand-up comedy. So I try to practice on being a better stand-up comedian. And then so I come to the Internet to use things to see what make people laugh on the Internet, and then, okay, I'm going to come back
Starting point is 00:15:21 and put that on stage with you. So I use the Internet like for a training ground now. yeah i go train for my new material uh if i come up with a new character uh the the concept to see if it's if it's you know will it turn people away will they accept it you know so i just come try the the new ideas on the internet now that's smart yeah using it like a funnel so you get all the attention and then from there you're figuring out how to monetize it yeah that's smart dude yeah people just see you as this wild guy but there's a lot of levels to you yeah it most because most most of us are stuck on the internet it used to be we were stuck on television we were we were literally run home to go watch television shows and and most of us believe the people that we grew up watching are who they were
Starting point is 00:16:08 on television because we'd never seen them outside of that character. And so that's, that's what had happened to me. So, uh, I say some of the most wildest shit like, yeah, I say some of the most wildest shit.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Uh, and people have attached me to what I say rather than what I've done or what I do. Yeah. How have you been able to navigate cancel culture, people coming at you? Saying fuck the cancel culture? How you go cancel me when you didn't create me? And so what the cancel culture does, it has ways of silencing you.
Starting point is 00:16:39 So this is actually my, since the pandemic started, this is my, this is almost, what, 18, 19 Instagram pages, accounts that have been deleted. Damn. So that's part of the council culture. I'm shadow banned. There are fake pages that's literally scamming people in my name. And I'm reporting these pages to social media platforms platform and there's nothing being done about it but I have a real fan base I have a real audience so I focus on my audience I focus on my my demographics because I have a target demographics kind of like
Starting point is 00:17:20 a politician does with their constituents I focus strictly on my constituents and fuck the rest. I feel that. Yeah. And you've gone pretty political lately, right? You're pretty outspoken on that. Yeah, yeah. Aiden Ross had reached out to me when he sat down with Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:17:35 So, what, two, three days before he sat down with Donald Trump, he invited me to come sit down with him and Trump. But, of course, I got a little legal situation I'm trying to take care of that prevents me from getting past Secret Service clearance. Man, that sucks. You got invited to the White House by Aiden? Yeah, well, he actually came to Miami, and I think they did it in Miami. They did it in Mar-a-Lago, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yeah, Mar-a-Lago, yeah. Wow, I didn't know you needed clearance. That makes sense because assassination attempts, yeah, they're probably being super protective. Man, they're coming at him. They just found out five different groups are trying to kill him did you see that yeah that's uh that's that's scary super scary especially for especially for the other party to seem like they're okay with it they're not saying anything they're not saying anything man uh no no one's coming out and even giving him any there's no empathy for him let alone sympathy no one's like no one seemed to feel sorry that it's happening to him so that's that's that's
Starting point is 00:18:35 what's scary i've seen people promoting it yeah reading that oh man i wish i got him yeah uh yeah that's scary especially for us in this country. Dude, if he goes down, it's going to be crazy. You know? I'm scared. They're not stopping, clearly. I mean, the first one was like a big deal, and then the second one happened a week later,
Starting point is 00:19:00 and people don't even care, it seems like. Well, from the sitting president he you know they tiptoe around saying uh condemning it they they're not condemning it uh kamala harris in in in in her campaign they're not condemning it uh the media uh surely they're not condemning it definitely not so uh i almost feel sorry for him and i don't feel sorry for many people yeah but uh well i empathize right feeling sorry does nothing so i try to empathize empathy is is having the ability to to put yourself in someone else's shoes or just having a thought to even imagine what would it would be like so just even to to conjure that thought that that's how you tap into having empathy for other humans.
Starting point is 00:19:47 So I try to empathize rather than feeling sorry. Feeling sorry is having pity. It's useless, right? Yeah. But, man, this guy is swimming up an upstream battle, let alone fighting 32 convictions to have him appeal. They're attacking him from every angle, man. Every angle in the tenacity and the resiliency that he's still able to maintain
Starting point is 00:20:16 in the face of the world. Yeah. The average man will break. So I salute him for it, man. I got a lot of respect for him. The respect and the admiration stops me from feeling sorry. So I find ways to empathize. Right. Yeah. Have you rocked with him since since 16 or did you join on later?
Starting point is 00:20:33 No, no, no. I mean, I've been with him since a kid. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've been I've been having admiration and respect in adoring Donald Trump since we was a kid. I was born in the 70s, homie. I grew up in the 80s. All the black entertainers loved him during the 80s. From the Jet magazines to Ebony magazines, he'd been in all of them. In the 90s, late 80s and the 90s,
Starting point is 00:20:59 every major hip-hop rapper that you can think of from LL Cool J to Young Jeezy to Snoop Dogg to Nelly have made reference. Donald Trump, Bill Gates, let me in now. So, man, Donald Trump's name has been mentioned in over, I think in almost over 300 rap songs within the hip-hop community. And that was just during the 80s and the 90s. So when you think about in the 2000s, when I seen him with 50 Cent, I seen him with G-Unit, man, I've seen him with NBA players. So then all of a sudden when he came out with the television show The stars and celebrities that was on Apprentice from Little John, Omarosa. You can think of you can go a list of people that even Claudia Jordan was on there, somebody who bashes him all the time. So he had a whole. Man, a whole resume.
Starting point is 00:22:02 He got an award in the 80s with Rosa Parks, Muhammad Ali. So I'm knowledgeable of this as a black person. So it wasn't until he decided to run as a Republican that you all of a sudden heard the media and media outlets and other people, well, he's a racist. He was, man, I ain't never heard that before. So they can't trick me when they trick me as a kid to believe otherwise right so how effective was that on the black community did
Starting point is 00:22:30 that change their votes you think yeah it was very effective uh because most people most black people don't have the knowledge not that i have but most black people are, most Americans, let me just say this, but most black people, are uninformed voters. Because you don't know anything about the candidates until they begin to get down to the primaries. You really don't start paying attention until they're down to the last two.
Starting point is 00:23:02 So, I learned in college, homie homie you know studying politics and political science that majority of our politicians a majority of these companies that's why they put fine print in fine print they rely on us being uninformed that's what keep them in power that's what keep them in their position us really not knowing so that's why you never hear politicians say that answer direct question they talk around so the uninformed voter typically comes out of my community not only that once they turn us against you uh we're uninformed so we're not going to vote properly.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Then we're going to have the lowest voter turnout. So we lose in two categories. We're going to have the lowest voter turnout. So I used to be a precinct chair. I used to be an election judge around here for the Tarrant County GOP Republican Party. So I would set up the the elections taking all the votes and man some of the precincts i'm in in the district that i was in out of five precincts three of them would have no voters to show up wow so that's part of why
Starting point is 00:24:18 most people stay in power for so long it's the low voter turnout and the uninformed voter. Wow. So once they tell us that he's racist and we buy into the racist narrative, man, we lose. They ran with that narrative, man. They almost got me with it, to be honest. Until I did some research,
Starting point is 00:24:42 but the average person is just going to see that headline and be like, yeah, I agree. When you understand racism, capitalism and socialism, you can't balance both. At one point at one point in time, this country was driven by racism. It was built on racism. Capitalism took over at one point in time right uh nothing seems to be beating capitalism not even racism nothing seems to be beating capitalism right now right because why would it matter what race you are if you're making money like Yeah, this is a capitalist country.
Starting point is 00:25:26 This is not a racist country. You still have racist people in this country who's in positions and power to make choices and decisions. But this country is spinning on capitalism. And I like that. I mean, there's companies that I think ethically or morally wrong, but overall capitalism is pretty good. Yeah. It's better than socialism. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:50 It's better than socialism. Democrats, for the most part, prefer socialism. Government entitlement. The government can fix everything. Yeah, no. So what do you think about the programs of uh paying people back like food stamps um social security all that uh marxism yeah some marxists yeah yeah nah man uh you want the government less involved in your life you don't want the government giving you no money for how many babies you had you don't want the government feeding your family if you can't feed it uh because then
Starting point is 00:26:28 that's that's communism in almost a fashion so we we want the freedom to be able to pursue uh the american dream life liberty and of happiness, and also have the government tell you what, when, who, and where. At some point, they'll say, okay, we didn't give you enough money for kids. You can't have any more children. So, man, this country was built off Americans helping one another, not the government. I feel that.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yeah, there's been a few people watching this in Section 8 pissed off, but I think, yeah, when you become too reliant, it's not a good thing. Hey, neighbor, got some sugar I can borrow. Hey, you know, it was barter. Man, not the government. Coming in and seeing every month you get $700 worth of food stamps. But I'm going to check and make
Starting point is 00:27:30 sure who lives here. You can't get married. Man, when you apply for government assistance, you open your life up to them. Man, they got some questions for your ass. Wait, you can't get married on food stamps?
Starting point is 00:27:46 Oh. You might not get food stamps if you marry. Wow. As a black couple. The household income. There you go. Damn. And then people purposely make less so they can still stay on it so they're never going to advance, right? Yeah. That's the one thing. Why would you
Starting point is 00:28:01 want to just stay at the same level? It's a level of security. It's a safety net. Like, why would you want to just stay at the same level? It's a level of security. It's a safety net. I could lose my job one day because I know I may show up late. I really don't have a work ethic. I'm unmotivated sometimes. So why would I give up this for that? I can rely on this.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I can't rely on that enough because that involves me relying completely upon me. Working every day, going to work every day so I don't have to keep getting this government assistance. Well, the days I don't feel like going to work, what supplements that? The government assistance. Right. So I've had that mindset before. Yeah, I've had that mindset before. Man, I don't want to lose my disability.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Because it was a safety net, and the mentality that I had at the time was an irresponsible mentality, right? Because I know the disability, the disability and the food stamp, I'm going to pay the rent. It covers what I live. I can kind of hustle to come up with the rest. I wanted to be irresponsible at times.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Wow. Yeah, I wanted to be irresponsible at times. And so I wasn't willing to give up my safety net and so I understand that mindset it's an irresponsible poor mindset so what was that moment that got you out of that because it was recently right I had a conversation
Starting point is 00:29:40 with my son's principal and he could hear outside of the door, but I didn't know he could hear. And I was telling this principal how I'm a poor, struggling single father. And that I was driving my son through three cities to make sure they get to school so he can get the proper education.
Starting point is 00:30:00 So when I came out that office, we got in the car. My son had tears in his eyes when he looked at me. He said, Dad, are we really poor? That question, man, it body rocked my soul. Because you really don't know if children have a concept of what poor is. But he was saddened by that that he heard me say that and i had to be honest because we were staying in a one-bedroom apartment i was getting
Starting point is 00:30:31 disability food stamps uh yeah we were poor uh i said yeah mijo we're poor and and and he looked at me and he said was there anything you can do about it, Dad? Man, I almost broke down crying. The man in me replied without even thinking. I said, yes, every day. I'm trying to do something about it. But I wasn't. I was content with where we were.
Starting point is 00:31:08 It was too difficult. At that time, I couldn't fathom what could I do to get out of this situation financially. I couldn't think of nothing. I couldn't think of nothing that I could do financially to change these conditions other than going back to school. And that's how I ended up back in school, trying to pursue law degree. Yeah, that's how I ended up back in school, to try to do something about the old condition.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Wow, that's incredible. I didn't know you went through that, man. Thanks for sharing that. That's really deep. Yeah, so I was a non-traditional. I went back to community college like in my mid-30s, or early 30s, all the way up until I was 40. So I did almost five years from community college
Starting point is 00:31:58 to the university level. But I found a way to subsidize the financial aid, the student loans, kind of like you would with welfare. So I figured out how to use your subsidized loan money, your grant money, and scholarship money, and use that to live off of. Smart. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, because the loans are like,
Starting point is 00:32:25 their interest rate's really high, right? Yeah. But if you do right with it, just pay it back later. Right. But right now, I'm getting ahead. I'm changing, yeah. So you figure, man,
Starting point is 00:32:37 every August, the start of a fall semester, you're getting $6,000, $7,000 in financial aid money. Well, normally books are going to cost you about three or four. Well, I'm smart enough to know I'm going to go rent the books. I'm going to go pay rent up for three or four or five months so it takes the financial pressure off me, of me and the kids. Now I can think, think a little bit. So now I can go study, I can move a little bit more,
Starting point is 00:33:05 do some little odds and ends jobs until the next check comes. Yeah, so that's what I did to subsidize my life so I could have some financial, some breathing room, right? Some breathing room so I can think clearer and better. Wow. Yeah yeah so university really helped you then yeah community college did that was the community college then the university so yeah uh because i don't want to make it seem like you know you go just to get the money
Starting point is 00:33:39 but on a university level those checks go from being $6,000 to closer to $10,000. And the longer you're in school, the more they was giving at the time. So between the subsidized and unsubstitized student loans, that was down to, what, $15,000. You get another, what, $5,600, $5,700 in Pell Grant. You get another, what, almost $ almost 3600 in your state grants. And then I was doing this. I was I was writing papers for scholarships. So I was winning scholarships, getting another five, ten thousand dollars. All that was being put in my pocket. It was just broken down by way of semesters. Wow. So you were a good writer, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:20 So so now home. So that that that became my outlet. That became my avenue to transition from being associated with the street elements, right, the criminal elements of society, to finding a way to disassociate it. I found another avenue out. So you used academics to get out of that. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah, because I have a different take on college. I don't think it's pretty useful for most people,
Starting point is 00:34:47 but I can't even deny what you did. It worked. Yeah, it's not for everybody. You have to know what you want. I just happened to go late in life and knew what I wanted. Right? Man, you have to be groomed for college. You can't graduate and say, oh, this is what I think I want to do.
Starting point is 00:35:07 You have to have a plan because it's so many barriers and obstacles from the time you try to go enroll, do the financial aid that that that can hinder you. Right. So you have to know. And this is what you really want to do. Other than that, you got to go find a trade and this is what you really want to do other than that you got to go find a trade some people need a job or some people need to go to prison some guys need the military uh but only you and the people who who know you best knows what you need whether that's a teacher a mentor a coach they know you and they know you best right so what i mean by they know you best they don't see the bad in you they see the potential
Starting point is 00:35:50 that the people who know you best always highlight the potential that you have and they try to direct you towards your potential right uh the other people highlight the bad and and that keeps you torn down yeah so uh i I tell young people, man, some niggas need prison. Some of y'all need to go to prison. Man, I know some niggas need prison because I know what prison offers. I know what it does. And for the most part,
Starting point is 00:36:15 I've seen most people come back from prison better men. Really? Than worse. Oh, I thought it was the opposite. Well, they come back better. They just come back to worse conditions. And so they revert back to their old ways right because the reversion rate is pretty high yeah it's like 80 percent
Starting point is 00:36:29 yeah yeah the recidivism rate very high uh what is it well 80 percent are back within five years yeah yeah 80 percent are back within five years i think it's 70 percent are back rearrested within one year but you're saying they're better though They are better. Most guys who go to prison who couldn't read can read when they come home. Most guys who... Most people don't come back and commit the same crimes. They reoffend by way of violation of parole or maybe probation stipulations. So... I went to the boys' home when I was 14, came out at 21. So I grew up from 91 to 98 in the boys' home.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I watched many young men transfer from the boys' home to prison. I got out in 98. I started seeing guys come home who had been locked up from 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94. They're starting to come home, and now we're close to 40. We're down to 2000. So they haven't done 28 years, 29 years. Most came home better men. Most people reoffend because it's not that they come home better criminals i mean most people come home with the intention of trying to do right but they're going back home to either
Starting point is 00:37:53 the same community or they're going back to the same people but worse conditions i mean more folks trying to do right when they come home for the most part. They don't want to go back there, but because of the conditions and the circumstances that they find themselves in, they end up falling back and going to what they know to work, that once used to work.
Starting point is 00:38:23 You go back to what you know i'm trying to do right but i don't know how to do right consistently for it to work i know how to do wrong i'm gonna go back to what i know so man most people are going back for using drugs or maybe selling drugs to try to eat because they got they got child support you don't have no license can't find no job so so it's like when I came home all my childhood issues had been healed all my childhood issues had been healed. All my childhood issues had been resolved. So I came, went in at 14, came out at 21. Man, I was a completely new person.
Starting point is 00:39:11 But when I came home, I came home to a community. I had a great home life. I had a great support system. But man, everything around me was criminally impacted by selling drugs. I wanted to go to college. But, man, I also wanted to sell drugs, too, because it would seem like cool to sell drugs in college. Be the weed man on a college campus.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I got caught with 10 pounds of weed. Damn. But, man, I ain't really know nothing about selling weed. But culturally, that's what was out here. If you wanted to get a girl, you wanted to be the man during that time, he had to have a doughboy image. A man that got up and go to work every day during my era, they laughed at him. It was the doughboy.
Starting point is 00:40:05 The nigga with the beeper, the phone the phone the car just the dough boy nigga so you competing as a so that that was our competition as wanting to do right so even the guys who did right looked like the guys who did wrong whether it was the the nba players or the nfl players just acting and looking like the street niggas gilbert arenas bringing all the guns to the stadium pac-man jones throwing all the money up in there at the strip club and having to shoot out to the street so i'm all these so these are the guys we're looking to do right, but they're acting like the guys that's doing wrong. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:53 We have more access to the guys that's doing wrong than the guys that's doing right. I've never seen a man get up and go to work every day. I've only seen my mom and them get up and go to work. Only for me to wake up and whatever man I was exposed to, they were earning their clothes to go get clean, to go outside and hang on the street corner to sell drugs, pimp hoes. So I had access to see them. When I cut on my television, the guys who supposed to be doing right look like the guys that's doing wrong. So as a kid and my young and impressionable mind, I can't separate the two.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I can't separate the guy on television from the guy in my community. And I don't see nothing in life that's a flip side to what I'm seeing. I don't see the guy, I don't see a banker in real life and I don't see a banker on television.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Bill Cosby, Dr. Cliff Huxtable, was a doctor. Every doctor I went to were white. So I couldn't, I didn't, I was looking for black doctors because I lost my eye as a kid. So everywhere I went, I'd be looking for a Dr. Cliff Huxtable.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I didn't see that. I don't know how many kids I knew, like Jasmine Guy and Dwayne Wayne, on A Different World, who was in college. That was only on television. My cousin Tasha graduated from high school, but man, she wasn't giving no party. The prison party was way more electrifying. So there was nothing appealing other than this hour of television. So it was hard to decipher as a kid uh what to be when when you don't know what to be
Starting point is 00:42:50 what to identify with yeah i think that's the importance of having that father figure too right i was uh in a divorced household i didn't really have father growing up too yeah i felt pretty lost honestly yeah uh because what how do you identify mother is giving you, she's telling you right from wrong. She's giving you the right instructions, but it doesn't give you an identity to avoid peer pressure, to be confident enough to say, no, I'm not doing that. Dad is what gives you that 100% I was falling for all the pure pressure man you and me both yeah man just trying
Starting point is 00:43:30 to fit in smoking weed drinking I was falling for it all yeah a board and whatever and and just a little thing that mom was telling you to do it don't work amongst boys did the diplomacy that mom is trying to get you to institute among boys they'll thank you a pussy excuse my language but yeah man mom could run over you man that's a pussy so uh you you need to you need dad chromosomes man at some point you need his words you need his instructions uh you just need mom to nurture yeah yeah. Yeah. So that was my problem. I just wanted to be accepted. I just wanted to be a part of something that had a male presence in it.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Yeah. You see that with a lot of divorced households or people that don't grow up with a certain parent, right? Yeah. They just want that acceptance. Yep. And then they join a gang or whatever. They go down a path.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Extreme shit. Yeah, yeah. Extreme shit to gang or whatever, like they go down a path. Extreme shit. Yeah, extreme shit to try to counter those inner feelings. Yeah, because for the most part, you don't know how to express those insecurities, that inferiority that you feel by not having. So it's hard to even identify it in such a way that you can't even feel confident about expressing how you feel right you don't be seen as weak right yeah yeah so uh i'm 47 now and i'm articulated i wouldn't i couldn't articulate this at 18 17 uh so i would display it in in in in in inappropriate adolescent behavior,
Starting point is 00:45:07 whether that was through violence, cursing, fussing, committing a crime. It was just the release of being impulsive. Yeah. Were you pretty hot-headed back then? Pretty angry? Yeah. Yeah, I was a hothead. Yeah, I was a hothead yeah I was because I was a spoiled kid I was a spoiled kid
Starting point is 00:45:28 uh who couldn't handle rejection uh I didn't know how to accept no you know mom mom didn't say no we was uh you know we were some spoiled kids uh but not financially just spoiled emotionally or no we spoiled financially my mom worked at General Motors. So she was very financially stable. So she tried to make up financially for her working so much. So it's the lack of parental supervision. When we was getting out of school, mom was going to work. So we had a lot of free time on our hands.
Starting point is 00:45:59 So mom was trying to financially give us the things that she thinks we should have and we want to try to compensate for not being there. Right, but that doesn't work on certain people, right? No, uh-uh. You need the presence. Yeah, because not everyone's love language is physical gifts. Yeah, so when she had my sister, me and my brother got in trouble. She took her early retirement from General Motors so she can be more involved uh it's to involve parent uh it's not the finances are great homie
Starting point is 00:46:29 but man that involved parent is everything right and that's the problem with a lot of uh you know super rich families right now they don't they try to buy these gifts for their kids and you know ipads and well that's what happened uh with the the young kid here ethan couch uh they got the 10 years probation for killing the four people in a dwi accident uh his lawyers named used a defense uh called affluenza and the affluenza the affluenza defense was saying that he was too rich to understand right from wrong because yeah and and and he won with that defense what yeah he killed four people got 10 years probation what he's called the affluent the affluent the affluenza defense yeah Ethan
Starting point is 00:47:12 Caps call him trust fund babies yeah yeah but he was a kid who was left at home with just the money damn yeah you can't do that you got to be there man man that presence is everything yeah that presence is everything and not only just the presence to be actively involved is everything absolutely a lot of parents don't realize that though they think uh you know just making money for the family is enough yeah you got to be there though well um that's why i'm having so much fun now i was there uh uh getting them through so i was there at the first part the the poor struggling dad in the middle, started having a little financial success.
Starting point is 00:47:50 And toward the end, I started having a lot of success. So they got to watch dad evolve. I love that. Yeah, they got to watch dad evolve. Yeah, that's such a good influence on them, this journey, right? Yeah. Because they got to see all ends of the spectrum.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Yeah. So they could determine now where they want to be on that. Yeah. Awesome, man. I left my water around. How many kids you got? Two. I got my son to be 21 on the 23rd of this month, October.
Starting point is 00:48:15 And my daughter just turned 16. Wow, so you had him pretty young. No, I'm a mid-20s. 47, so mid-20s? Yeah. Yeah. My daughter graduated. My son graduated. My daughter graduated high school at 15, get
Starting point is 00:48:27 ready to go to beauty school. She graduated at 15? At 15, yeah. That's freshman year usually. Yeah. Wow, so she skipped three grades. Yeah, yeah. Damn, man.
Starting point is 00:48:36 You got some smart kids. Oh, I'm a smart guy. Yeah, so if nothing else, we got some academic talent. I love it, dude. Yeah. You still doing the comedy stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm actually in Miami Imp improv in a few weeks that's my next stop uh we're getting ready to we're getting ready to go back and re-sign with a wise guys comedy club and redo that again uh so yeah man that's that's
Starting point is 00:48:55 where i'm gonna end it man uh that's your end goal comedy uh comedy and then kind of doing what you're doing but i want to take it to a a radio personality. So kind of like I want to be the black Joe Rogan. You could do it, man. Yeah. Ultimately, you know, rather than saying the black Joe Rogan, I want to be the modern-day Petey Green. So, you know, radio host, personality, disc jockey, you know, talking my shit. Yeah, and still, you know, impacting the culture in a specific way.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Yeah, we'll talk after this. I'll put the right pieces around you. Okay, way. Yeah, we'll talk after this. I'll put the right pieces around you. Okay, bet. Yeah, we'll get you a borrow, man. Well, where can people find you and keep up with you, man? Until they get my Instagram back, charleston__whitemanager. You can find me on Charleston White Facebook fan page, which is a private page.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Don't go to the public page. It's scamming people, so be aware of scams. I do not ask for cash out money. I do not post my cash out, and I do not ask for people to send money without doing a contract or actually speaking to me. So if you send money to somebody and you haven't heard my voice or received a contract,
Starting point is 00:50:00 you've been scammed. We'll link it below. Closing messages for Adam22 before we wrap up. Adam22, he needs at least $50,000 for me to do an interview with. $50K, you can get an interview, Adam. And it's got to be done in Dallas
Starting point is 00:50:16 with this guy here as a mediator. That way, I know there's no bullshit. I appreciate that, man. Yeah, that way I know there's no bullshit. We'll make it happen. All right, guys. Thanks for watching. Check out the links below.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Peace. We out.

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