Digital Social Hour - Digital Hustle Secrets from a Top Creator | Jenna Lee DSH #1313

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

Unlock the ultimate secrets to thriving in the digital hustle with top creator Jenna Lee! 📈 On this episode of the Digital Social Hour Podcast with Sean Kelly, Jenna spills the tea on her nine-year journey as an OG content creator, her groundbreaking strategies for building confidence, and how she turned challenge after challenge into millions. 💡 From navigating the stigma of her industry to balancing safety, mental health, and independence, Jenna’s insights are as real as they get. Discover how she carved her own path, why confidence is the ultimate game-changer for anyone, and her take on dating, relationships, and redefining success in today’s world. 🌍 Whether you’re looking for motivation, tips for creating passive income, or just an honest conversation about life in the digital age, this episode has it all. Don’t miss out! Tune in now and join the conversation. 🙌 Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:29 - Jenna Lee on OnlyFans 04:51 - Women Using OnlyFans Statistics 06:36 - Defining Too Much Money 10:00 - Lumati Red Product 11:32 - Fan Meetups Experience 12:40 - Anxiety and Agoraphobia Discussion 18:00 - Getting Married Insights 19:44 - Elon Musk and Andrew Tate Discussion 22:06 - Overcoming TikTok Brain 23:30 - Mom's Reaction to OnlyFans 26:25 - Understanding Property Taxes 29:30 - Quitting for Money Considerations 30:28 - Weirdest Fan Request Stories 31:46 - Million Dollar Offer Discussion 34:44 - Interest in Feet Explained 36:38 - Dating a Vegan Perspective 40:49 - Andrew Tate Insights 41:40 - Virginity Statistics for Men Under 25 43:30 - Do Women Prefer Short Guys? 45:00 - Dealing with Hate Online 48:04 - Finding Jenna Lee Online APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Jenna Lee https://www.instagram.com/jennalee SPONSORS: PROLON: http://prolonlife.com/DSH LUMATI: https://www.lumati.com/dsh LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ #socialmediamarketing #digitalmarketing #contentcreation #contentmarketing #mentalhealthawareness

Uh, no, that's not true. You don't think so? No, it's personality. So many ugly men get pussy as long as they're confident. I think men lack confidence these days because they don't know how to talk to women anymore because they don't have social interaction because they're sitting in front of a screen for too long. Hmm. It's all confidence.

Any man can get with a woman if he's confident enough. Really? Oh, yeah. confident enough. Really? Oh yeah. Hey guys in Austin with an OF content creator, Jenna Lee. Thanks for hopping on today. Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here. Yeah. It's going to be an interesting one. You've been busy lately. I've I'm always busy. I'm an OG OF girl. How long you been in the?

Well since the inception 2016. Wow. Yeah. That's the longest I've heard actually. It's the longest that's possible. What sold you on it so quick? Cause a lot of girls I felt like joined late. Right, because they were about the money. When COVID hit, they just wanted to make a quick buck. I pretty much graduated from college and got a nine to five

and had never been more depressed in my entire life. I worked in an office full of men. Some of the men were even younger than me and they were getting promotions. And one of the VPs was making like hundreds of thousands of dollars a year and he was literally 20 years old. And I was like, it was so misogynistic in there. I was like, I'm never gonna get a promotion here.

So why don't I just go take their money elsewhere? You know what I mean? Yeah. So that's when I thought I could do this. And it just like popped off immediately when I joined. Damn. Yeah. Cause I didn't know if they had the user base back then.

So I did because before OnlyFans, I was actually a different platform that I was on called Findro, a super old platform. And I had built a fan base on there in 2014. So for two years, I was accumulating fans. So when OF dropped, I just shifted them all over. Got it. Back then, was the stigma as bad as it is now? Worse.

It was worse. Oh, it's worse. Yeah. But back then, I treated it. Do you remember Tumblr? Yeah, I never used it, but I know it was. It used to be just me with my coffee, very like wasn't even showing any nudes. So people thought I was really shy and I was. I but I know those. It used to be just me like with my coffee, very like wasn't even showing any nudes. So people thought I was really shy and I was, I kind of grew up with them.

So I wasn't even doing nudes for like two years straight. So when I even like dropped a nip slip, the first nip slip I dropped, boom, I made like 20K that day. What? So I was like, what if I dropped both nips out? Would that be 40K? And then it just escalated from there. I feel like that's how it progresses.

Some girls like start out and go full throttle immediately and that's just the wrong play. You're gonna be full of regret and you're not gonna leave anything to the imagination. So my entire business model was leave as much to the imagination as possible. And I was really able to like harness that and monetize it that way.

What stage are you at now? Are you doing full on stuff? I'm not at full throttle yet. I got that in my back pocket still for a rainy day. Okay. Uh huh. Wow, and it's been nine years. So you're really holding out.

So, you know, I don't know, but I never planned on quitting. I feel like people are always like, what's your 10 year plan? Or what are you gonna do when you're old? And I'm like, have you heard of a cougar or a mill? Like, I'm gonna be a mill doing this. Why would I ever stop producing something that's creating passive income, right?

So I got that in my back pocket for rainy day. How difficult has this made your dating life? I don't really care today. I like having fun more. I think I am too difficult today and I don't really like taking it seriously and I like using other guys for content. So...

I love that you can acknowledge. It's just like more fun for me. If I like, I have a lot of like friendships and fuck buddies. And so I don't really wanna settle down. I came from a home, like a home of like divorce, right? Aunts, uncles, like everyone's divorced. So I just never really valued marriage.

Now I can value like a long-term life partner, but I don't think I would ever get married for that reason. So I just don't take relationships seriously. Wow. So you believe in friends with benefits. I believe in friends with benefits. And I also don't want kids. I've never wanted kids. I think it would actually be really toxic

to have children in this space, to raise them around nudity at such a young age. Like as an adult, it's normal for me, but you do have to kind of like age yourself into it. So the fact that I don't want kids also makes it really easy not to like take dating too seriously. Yeah, I wonder how Adam 22s and Lenis kids are gonna turn out. Well, I hope that they like shield their child from what they do.

I'm sure that they do, but there will come a time when their child will grow up and see what they're doing. It's unavoidable. Right, and that goes for anybody, right? There's so many women and men in this industry that do have children that are gonna kind of have to have that tough interaction when they're older and they do see the content. So. I just saw this crazy stuff the other day. 1.2 million women use OnlyFans.

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If you average it out, but that's because the top ones are making so much. Like Bad Baby or whatever, allegedly. And you and who knows Cardi B, I don't know. Yeah, Bad Baby, how much does she make? I saw crazy numbers of her. Like 50 something million. And she said, she unfortunately lately said

that she doesn't even have like the will to live anymore because she made so much money, she doesn't do anything. She's bought everything, she unfortunately lately said that she doesn't even have like the will to live anymore because she made so much money she doesn't do anything. Wow. She's bought everything, she's done everything, she's gone everywhere and she just doesn't really care to do much anymore. That sucks. I know, so it's kind of like you want to make a lot of money but you don't want to make too much to where you like lose the lust for life.

Yeah. It's like a real thought, you know? I still like to have drive in me to make more and progress. But imagine if you made two, three, 400 million, like, what do you do then? I think it depends the speed on how you make it and who you are beforehand. Right. Because I've had on Amaranth who has made over 70 million.

Yes. And she seems like she's pretty level headed. Well, she did just recently post her crypto portfolio. That's not very level-headed. Well yeah, you saw she got robbed. Yeah, somebody held her at gunpoint or some shit like that. Yeah, so she went on my show the week before and Fresh and Fit. I don't know which show it was, but someone watched it.

She revealed the crypto portfolio. I don't think that's a coincidence. Yeah. So I felt- But I think people don't really talk about safety in this industry as much as they should. Like stalkers are so real. I live my entire life based around

potentially having a stalker, because I have had one before. Damn. So I had a stalker once. It was the most traumatizing thing that I've ever been through. I had to move three different times. He found me every time.

How'd he find you? I was living alone as a female in a city. I don't know. I think he would psychologically trick people that I knew into thinking that he was a friend of mine to get my information. Damn. And I changed my phone number multiple times.

He came to my house. He would always slash my tires so I couldn't leave. And then what he did was he served me papers just to get me to court so he could see me again. What? Yes. So here I am in court. You have to go claiming that I was stalking him. And obviously they have, they're like, sir, she does not communicate with you. Like, this is not gonna go through. But afterwards, he ended up killing himself

because I wouldn't be with him. Holy crap. So just knowing that, like, that could have been me, now I live my life, like, so carefully and I feel like other creators. I mean, as an adult content creator or, like, a hot girl on the internet, you're essentially selling the girlfriend experience.

Like a lot of these men really think they're in full blown relationships with you. And I think you need to take that more seriously regarding the fact that they think that they can show up at your front door. Yeah. They call it parasocial relationship, right? Yeah. Because they see so much of you, they think they know you online. Yes.

And then they show up and act like your friend or your boyfriend or whatever. That's wild. Did you feel kind of guilty or any? No, it was like such a, it was so relieving knowing that he had died. Damn. I had never been more relieved. It was like the first time I could breathe in like two years. Holy. This went on for years. Damn. He got registered at my college, got the same schedule as me, and was in every one of my classes to be next to me. What? Yes. He might have been a hacker or something to know what classes you were in or...

Right. It was weird because it wasn't the first day of class. It was like a weekend, you know, you can kind of like change your schedules. It was terrifying. So when he killed himself, I was really, really... So you didn't get a restraining order or anything? I couldn't. Why?

It's so hard for women to get restraining orders on men. Really? I thought it was easy. Because basically, like I had my brother say, like you need to leave her alone or I'm gonna kick your ass or whatever. To the judge that basically shows that I don't fear for my life if I have someone.

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I don't know if I agree with that call. Oh, restraining orders need to be much easier to obtain. It's criminal how hard they are for women to get. I guess it's state by state. I always assumed they were easy. If you just went to the police, you could get one. Nope. So do you need evidence or? I had literally photos of my tires slashed, everything.

And it was the fact that like, I remember one time I woke up to 80 missed phone calls. Oh my gosh. And this was years ago. I forget what I said. I just responded like, please leave me alone or something. And then the fact that I communicated with him was the reason I couldn't get a restraining order. That's nuts.

Yeah. So you're not doing fan meetups, are you? Hell no. Who's doing fan meetups? Lily Phillips is, and she's banging them too. She's new. She's new. She's too new for some shit to have gone down yet.

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. She's only a year into it. Yep. I don't know how that's gonna end, but yeah, she did a fan meetup at AVN, banged 50 guys. At AVN? Doing anal, yeah.

An anal gangbang. I don't know how her pussy keeps up with it, man. Well, that was her ass, but yeah, she does the hundred and day with the pussy, and yeah, I don't know. That's a lot. Yeah, I mean, like we got a pH balance you know like is she all right yeah well they all get tested but allegedly and they all

wear protection but yeah I don't know seems crazy she's going for a thousand in the UK I think this week yeah but like have we done the math on the timing of that like how many yeah once each guy I think she so for the hunter she gave five minutes each guy get? I think she, so for the hunter, she gave five minutes each. Yeah. And then I think she said for a thousand, she has to do two minutes each. So you got- And then like, when do you like drink water

and pee and like eat? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, somebody's gotta do the math on that, Lily. Love you, are you sure? Did you collab with her? I saw you on IG with her the other day. It was interesting. She said, Lily Phillips on her social media

says she doesn't like posting anything wrong because she likes to save it for her OF. She likes to leave something for the imagination, which is fine because Instagram is so safe. So her and I did like super safe Instagram stuff. But I was like, girl, please move to the United States so we can like collab for real. I loved her.

Well, the border stopped her. Did she tell you that? Yeah. She's a little too famous. And it's kind of scary in this industry. You want to get all the views in the world because the more views you make, the more income you obviously get. But you don't want to get too famous because then scary shit starts happening. So there's a fine line you don't want to cross. And I actively work on not crossing also.

Smart. There are so many collabs and events and stuff that I turn down because I don't wanna be too much in the public eye and I like doing a lot of solo stuff specifically for my safety. Yeah, you do good at that. Which prevents me from reaching my full potential financially, but I can sleep at night knowing that like

nobody's gonna show up. Yeah. No, that makes sense though, because you do really well at that, because I just found out about you like a few weeks ago, but you've been doing this for nine years. Yeah. So that's impressive. I'm really low key. I like living like a super normal life.

I feel like people think OF girls are just crazy and they're like always in Miami like on a guys, yeah. And it's like, I'm in my backyard gardening actually. Leave me alone world. So you like doing your thing solo. I do my thing solo. Yeah. I struggle with really bad anxiety, which developed into agoraphobia. Do you know how that is?

Yeah. I had it for two months. That's it. How long was yours? I still have it. You still have it? Yeah. Oh, wow. Do you know what I I still have it. You still have it? Yeah. Oh wow.

Do you know what I'm on to be here? Xanax. No, I take a lot of something called L-Pheonine. I just pound it. I take like a thousand milligrams. That's all natural. It is. I take a thousand milligrams just to get out of the house.

Yeah, Symbiotica just sent me some of that. Oh, it will depends on what brand you take. It's kind of like matcha, like there's ceremonial grade and then there's the shitty kind. So you've got to get like the cleanest. I didn't know that helps with anxiety. Cause people take- Oh, it like just levels you to feel normal.

And I highly recommend it because most things for anxiety make you feel tired or sleepy or like so now. I feel like Jenna when I'm on it. Yeah, cause you probably have PTSD from the stalkers. If that makes sense. Well, I actually have PTSD. Well, yeah, but I have PTSD from a car accident, which happened in 2016, and I haven't driven a car since,

so I don't have a driver's license. I haven't had a driver's license in like years. So if you don't have a driver's license, it prevents you from leaving the house. And then when you do leave the house, it's because someone else is driving you, which means you never leave the house alone. So it's just like a slippery slope

and it can get kind of like dark and scary, which has allowed me to fucking crush it on OnlyFans because all I do is sit at home all day, create content, you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm a hundred people. Yeah, I'm on there. But yeah, anxiety really fucked me up and it still does. But how did you get over your agoraphobia?

Mine was lawsuit induced. So I was dealing with a lawsuit Okay, it was like situational situational. Yes, but as soon as the lawsuit settled it kind of like slowly went away Okay, and you didn't have to take anything for it I think I was on like Xanax at the time, but I got off it cuz fuck Xanax dude Yeah, no, I don't like anything that doesn't make me feel like myself. No that messed me up I literally blacked out for a month. Yeah, I don't remember anything that doesn't make me feel like myself. No, that messed me up. I literally blacked out for a month. Yeah. I don't remember anything. Wow.

Xanax really messes you up. Yeah. How's your mental health now with you and all this? It's better. I still have a little anxiety, but it's situational. It's not chronic. You know your triggers. Yeah, before it was daily, but now it's like, if something happens to me, it might creep up a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, mine used to be chronic to where like, I would just wake up... trembling. Yeah, same. Trembling. Yeah, it was bad. Yeah, real bad. I thought my whole world was in. I feel like our generation

Is just like super fucked with mental health. I think we're on the internet. Oh, yeah, they're doing study. They don't get out of bed You know when I feel my best is when I just go outside and I I'm really good at just ditching my phone Cuz like my screen time is like seven hours a day then like one day.'ll just be like, one day a week I'm like, screw it. And I don't even care to be on it. It feels so much better. That's impressive. I think because I'm just so dialed with all my shit, I know I have everything I need to do done that I could just literally throw it away and everything's fine.

That's solid. Yeah, I'm at about eight, nine hours a day, which is pretty crazy. That's almost the whole day you're up. Yeah, mine's seven. I've never heard of anybody higher than mine. Well, I'm working though. So that's my excuse. No, me too.

Yeah, I'm not. Well, scrolling is work. I have to let you keep up with the trends. No, scrolling is work for us because I'm looking for guests. I'm looking for trending topics. Yeah, if you don't scroll on your phone all day, don't you start itching?

Yeah, no, I literally- I'm like fiending to scroll a little bit. I'm like refreshing Twitter, I'm refreshing TikTok. Yeah, Twitter's been down today and I'm like- Oh it's down today? Yeah I'm like- Damn, Twitter's my favorite right now. My Twitter is all just like people fucking

and I don't know how to get off of the algorithm. Oh I didn't read that on my Twitter. How do I get that off my algorithm? You have to start liking other shit. I know. Yeah. Yeah, but I have to post my sexy shit so it never gets on what I actually want it to be. And yeah, cause they let you post whatever on Twitter.

Yeah. I don't get that side of Twitter at all. Well, you're not posting your butt cheeks. So I don't imagine you would. I mean, what would happen if you did? I'd make a lot of money, but it wouldn't be worth it. My, I'm about to get married. She'd be pissed.

Oh, is she cool with you? How, what's that dynamic like? She's super private. Yeah. Yeah. So like people don't even know, but yeah, I've been dating her for eight years. Really? Yeah. And you're gonna get married?

Yeah, this year. Yeah, I never thought I was against it, you know? You were against marriage? Well, as a guy, like when you have a lot of money and like fame, there's a lot of downsides to getting married. Well, as a girl with a lot of money, there's also a lot of, yeah, it's not even a sex thing. It's just, like, if you have a lot of assets. Isn't it funny how it turns into a guy thing, though?

Well, people assume, yeah. It's really interesting, like, being a woman that makes millions of dollars. Yeah. Like, when you go to date, it's just kind of like, every woman that I know that makes millions of dollars, if you're watching your favorite IG girl, her man is the one filming her. They all are in relationships

and all of these men do nothing but support their women and shoot their content and like mooch off of their women, but they work for them. Which it is work, it is work. But it's like the woman is always the breadwinner. And then their man is kind of like following them around. I don't think I could do that. It doesn't get my pussy wet. I'll do that. But it's like a successful man in my tax bracket doesn't want

anything to do with me because of what I do for work. So that's another reason. Yeah, single. It's like a catch 22. It is a catch 22. I heard women that make a ton of money struggle dating, not even just in your industry. I'm sure because we are in our masculine energy and biologically we want to be in our feminine energy. It's interesting. I make millions of dollars, but sometimes I don't want to. I want to be taken care of just because I'm a woman. I don't want to have to take care of a man. Yeah. You want to be in care of just because I'm a woman. Right. I don't want to have to like take care of a man. Yeah, you want to be in your feminine energy.

Yeah. What do you think of Andrew Tate and Elon Musk's style of like, I guess, just having a bunch of kids with multiple women? Because Andrew has over 10, Elon's got 14. The only reason I think that's weird is because like I grew up with like a weird father figure dynamic. And you know, it's not healthy to have like an absent father. So the only reason I think it's weird is because

there's no way they can be present for all of their children and I get that Elon like wants to repopulate the earth with his genetics and like that's fine because I think he's a good person and I stand for what he's doing, Elon, but his child is gonna have daddy issues, all of them. One's already trans. Yeah, so Tate's philosophy,

cause I just had him on, he basically said an hour with him is worth more than like 40 hours with average man. No. Cause his knowledge, I guess, you know. Yeah, no, but like it still takes time to build relationships. Like that kid's not gonna trust him

or being with him for like two seconds during the day. Yeah. Like I spent every other weekend with my father and we weren't close. So according to Andrew Tate, he should have been like my God. Yeah, my parents got divorced when I was 10 and I only saw my father on like every other weekend. And I definitely laughed like that father thing.

But my father was like a full blown alcoholic and he died from alcoholism. Oh shit. Yeah. Yeah, my- So like when I was with him, he like still wasn't even present. Yeah, so that doesn. Oh shit. Yeah. So like when I was with him, he like still wasn't even present. Yeah, so that doesn't even count. Yeah. Yeah, my girlfriend always gives me shit for that

because like we'll be next to each other on the couch, but I'll be working on my phone. So she's like- It doesn't count. It doesn't count. No, have you ever gone to dinner and put your phone down and like looked her in the eyes? Shits like, oh shit.

You know what I used to do when I was in a relationship? If I needed quality time, I would make my man play a card game with me. Because like you have to be in the moment and it's like a good way to connect with somebody for a short period of time. And it feels like quality time. Smart.

But you're not like bored. Yeah, I don't know, but just movies don't interest me anymore. TV shows. Oh my God, I can't watch a movie. I'm on my phone the whole movie. I can't watch a movie. I don't know what it is.

TikTok brain, they call it. Yeah. It's just like so slow. How do we get rid of it? I just posted, I actually missed my pre-internet brain the other day. I know, I used to be able to watch Harry Potter straight, but getting to end and be excited.

Now it's like, I watched this 10 years ago. I don't get excited anymore. Do you? Not as much as I used to. I don't get excited at all about anything. I wonder if that's a desensitization thing because of social media. Well, I think like our dopamine in serotonin is like drained.

It's like fried. I'm actually looking into a dopamine detox. Have you heard of those? Yeah. No, I need, I'm more of like a supplement person. I need to like take supplements for dopamine. Which I heard saffron is a good supplement to do that, but I don't feel it's potent enough.

It's just like, I need something simple. You need some psychedelics. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you done those? I haven't, just because my anxiety is so bad, I know for a fact, my brain will be like, you're getting eaten by an anaconda or like some shit. Like I would go into it as it being a bad trip,

so I just can't let myself out of it. And my brain doesn't do good on pot or wheat or anything. Same. Especially edibles. Oh the worst. I get messed up. I get so messed up. I can't see anyone I got to go in the corner and just sleep. I fainted once from taking an edibles so you want me to do psychedelics? Absolutely not. Yeah. But have you ever like microdosed mushrooms? Yes. They make you like a little, you know what? That makes me a little happy.

Yeah, I like microdosing. Cause you're not tripping balls. Yeah. You're kind of just like productive. Yeah. I don't even notice it. Sometimes I forget I do it honestly. Yeah.

No, I got a little, it made me a little too giggly once. I like had to go to a dinner with my mom. Yeah. She was on it too. So it was, wow, it was fun. Interesting relationship. Yeah, that's an interesting one. With your mother.

She's very Christian, very straight-laced. So when I first started OnlyFans, I wasn't doing nudes, remember? So she was like, that's fine, honey. But now she's retired. She's like, sorry, mom. She's like smoking pot, whatever. Yeah.

That's interesting. When you did the nude stuff, did that mess up the relationship for a bit? You know, like I don't update my family on my content. It's not like I'm called my mom up and I'm like, Hey, you know what? I'm going to do an orgy today. Just to let you know, you know what I mean? Yeah. So I don't really update people on what I'm doing.

Oh, so she doesn't know. You have to subscribe. Well, I guess she does know. But I think my family sees how successful I am, so they wouldn't dare say shit to me. And if they ever did say shit to me, it doesn't matter. I don't really take what they say seriously just because of my childhood.

So like, they can't really tell me how to live my life or like give me their opinion. They wouldn't dare give me their opinions. I'm kind of stone cold to them. Damn, yeah. Yeah, I don't really fuck around'm kind of stone cold to them. Damn, yeah. Yeah, I don't really fuck around with people telling me what to do. Yeah, especially the trauma they put you through,

I guess you put some blame on them, right? Yeah, you know, as a matter of fact, mom, you sit down. Let me tell you what to do today. She probably- When she comes to my house, I'm like, take your shoes off. Well, that's cyclical, right? So she probably went through her own trauma.

She put her shoes off, yeah. Yeah. Would you quit O.F left if someone gave you $10 million? No. Really? I went to college and I took a finance course and they teach you, the greatest source of income is passive income. So I think I'm doing what I was taught. Society doesn't think OnlyFans are girls being productive in society, but this is what I was taught. Society doesn't think only fans are girls being productive in

society, but this is what I was taught to do in school. Also with the amount of money I make and have to give back in taxes, like what we give back to the communities even, you know? But also 10 mil, that's not gonna last me. It's not gonna last me until after retirement. Yeah, depending on your lifestyle, right? Depending, yeah, so I would continue. Board of Meese Games winner just got 10 mil. I just saw a video of him.

Did they get paid out though? Yeah, he did, but the problem is he lives in Cali. So he's only getting five mil after taxes. Oh yeah, I won a whole game show once. Oh, you did? I won $12,000. It was so adorable. It was like the a game show once. Oh, you did? I won $12,000. It was so adorable. It was like the cutest game show ever.

And I only went home with $7,000 because of taxes. Wow. So they took it out right then. I mean, with taxes, you usually get write-offs, right? Yeah. Specifically with game show earnings, there's no chance to write anything off. So they take the full amount that they can from you.

Yeah. So I think he got wrecked because he's in Cali. So the state tax is 15%. Yeah. I mean, Austin is zero, right, for state tax. Oh, zero. Yeah, but they fuck you with property taxes. Oh, really?

Dude, property tax is so crazy. It just makes up for it. How much is it here? My house is, oh, I don't know, the percentage of property tax. Yeah, Vegas is decent. It's the highest in the country. Oh, shit. Yeah, editor is decent. It's the highest in the country. Oh shit. Yeah, to editor, put it on the screen. Which is wild because Texas has hella land.

Yeah. So that's an interesting reason. I guess because there's no state tax, they just try to make it up. Yeah. Wow. Is there an amount you quit for though? I don't think I would quit working for any amount because it would not allow me to like live with purpose anymore. I fear I would be the type of person that would say been there, done that. And I would kind of like, I am kind of like a depressive person.

So if I don't have like something I have to do every day, then I just wouldn't do it. And I would like rot away in my bed. Wow. I'm not a very good rich person cause I don't like go out and do rich things. I just save it all and invest it all. You don't blow it on anything.

I don't blow it. So if you gave me like a hundred million dollars, like I still like would not be on a yacht in Monticello. I would like invest it and live a boring life still. So I think I need to wake up and work on something every day. So I don't think anything would get me to quit to be honest with you, but I would still take the 100 mil.

Yeah. It's hard to turn down 100 mil. I wouldn't turn it down. So you're not materialistic at all, huh? No. Yeah, I just really grew up in the woods. Wow. And I think like I did date a rich guy once.

Yeah, I was not. It didn't fulfill me. We lacked the banter, you know? Like going and buying me a new purse isn't as fun as staying up all night laughing, you know? So lacking the banter was just a deal breaker for me. I don't care what you can buy me. And I can buy it myself now anyway.

And I just don't, I think I worry about the future a lot too. I don't really like spending all my money. That's the anxiety in you. Yeah, like a doomsday, I't really like spending all my money. That's the anxiety in you. Yeah, like a doomsday I'm gonna like lose all my money or I don't know. Have you bought a bunker yet? No, but I should. Yeah, all the rich people are stocking up on those.

Yeah, what's going on? It's getting scary. It's weird that they all did it at the same time for good. Yeah, but physical gifts is not your love language. Sounds like. Have you taken that test? It's not my love language, but buying gifts for myself as a woman,

it makes me feel like I'm in my masculine energy and I don't like it. Yeah. Like I've bought myself nice handbags before and I'm just like, this isn't very fun. And I'll just sit in my closet. But if a man were to gift me something, that's nice for a minute,

but it's not as memorable as an experience. Take me on a trip, which costs money, you know? Yeah. So, I mean, to have like a good experience in life, you do need a bit of money. Yeah. You know? I pick trips over most physical items. Oh yeah, trips are so memorable.

Yeah, I love traveling. Where do you like to go? Greece has been my favorites. Thailand is cool. I hear Thailand is just like Tulum, so why would I travel that far? Oh, is it? Yeah. Tulum's expensive.

Every time I go to Tulum, I always meet like a couple there or a group of people there that have been to Thailand or Bali and they're like, oh, it's the same. And I'm like, thank you for telling me that. You just saved me 24 hour travel day. I do like Mexico. It took me two hours to get here. Thank you. Yeah. That's a good part about Mexico. Yeah. The food is bomb. Oh my god, it's good. Yeah, the food is good.

Dude, it's so good. What would you quit for any amount of money? Podcasting. Yeah. It'd be tough because I'm really fulfilled right now, like you said. Right. I really like doing podcasts, so I don't know. Because what would I do with 10 mil? I already got a couple mil. I mean, 10 mil is not gonna really change my life. To be honest. Yeah, but what if there was an amount that would change your life? Yeah, if we're talking nine figures, like 100 plus.

Right. It's hard to turn that down. I mean. I mean, you wouldn't turn it down, but would you quit your job? Like I could never podcast again. Right. Ooh, that's tough.

I don't know. Cause you would have no purpose in life. I know, I lean towards knowing that. It is so important to feel fulfilled and having a hundred million in your bank account is not gonna do that. Yeah. You have to be working on something every day.

I genuinely love doing this. Same, yeah. Any other business I had before this was just for money and it wasn't fulfilling, but this is different. Yeah, I love taking nudes if I'm depressed. I pull my titties out and my day is made, you know what I mean? Can't get me to stop.

What's the weirdest message or fan requests you've gotten? I get a lot. I do draw the line on some things though. The weirdest thing anybody has ever requested from me is a used bloody tampon. And at that point I was like, you know what? That's my DNA. I thought that's a little too close for comfort.

What are you gonna do with my DNA, my blood? So I turned that one down. What about used underwear? Oh, that's easy. That's really common. Really? Oh yeah. Yeah.

That is actually really annoying to shoot or used underwear is really annoying because what people don't realize is you have to wear them for like 24 hours. And it's just like, you have to like focus on like wearing this pair of underwear until it's to a point to where the user really wants it. And it's just like, I don't wanna have to like

think about that, I wanna live my life, you know? I usually don't wear underwear or like I'm changing throughout the day. I'll go to the gym in the morning, then I'll go tan in the middle of the day, then I'll put dramas at night. Like you're not wearing the same pair of underwear for 48 hours.

Right. You know, so I hate selling those. How much do people pay for those? Hundreds, three, $400, $1,000, it depends. Crazy. But then you have to go to the post office. And it's like, that's a chore for me. You ain't getting me out of the house

for that amount of money. You know what I mean? Yeah. Have you been offered to go to Dubai yet? Oh yeah, of course. I was offered a million dollars to fuck some guy one time. No way. Yeah.

So this guy was in private equity and I met him in real life and he fell in love, obviously. And he wanted to have sex with me and I just am not like that, you know, which is interesting because a lot of people probably think OnlyFans girls are, but you don't realize that I'm at home by myself working. I'm not touching other people for the most part.

So in real life, I'm really normal. So he offered me like a few thousand dollars and I was like, absolutely not. And I think once he realized that I was kind of expensive, he upped the number and he upped it to $70,000. And he said, I'm gonna have my lawyer write it up. And he wrote it up and he sent it to me. And I thought, no, I'm still not having sex with you.

I don't know you. And I think once he realized that like, I was really expensive, he got up to a million dollars. I probably have this document in my email still. And then I said no, because I thought who in their right mind would pay a million dollars to have sex with someone? There's no way he's not going to dismember my body.

Like weird, right? It's a lot, yeah. If somebody offered you a million dollars to like have sex with you, wouldn't you think they would murder you afterwards? Yeah, I'd be weirded out. I was just too weirded out. That's too much, because he could probably have sex with so many other people. And then I thought, there's no way I'm going to get that money clean.

Like afterwards, I felt like I would owe him something still, and he would like stick around and then turn into a stalker. And so I said no. Damn, that was in Dubai? Oh no, this was in real life in Atlanta. Oh wow, Atlanta, wow. Yeah. I'm surprised.

No, but the Dubai stuff is nuts because I've heard people. Like girls are getting shit on you? Yeah, wow. Atlanta, wow. Yeah. That's surprising. No, but the Dubai stuff is nuts, because I've heard people... Like, girls are getting shit on you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, you're not shitting on me. Yeah, I wonder how else they're getting for that. Not enough. I've heard there's, like, some secretive escort apps

for these high-end... There is. They, like, message you on WhatsApp, and I think these girls are getting, like, 10 Gs to get shit on. That's not worth it. No, but some girls, just because you're on OnlyFans doesn't mean you're successful. Like almost nobody on OnlyFans is successful unless you have a massive following.

So some of these girls need $10,000 and that's an easy way to make it. Mm. Oh. Yeah. How many minutes does it take to get shit on? I don't know, one night of your life, if you're poor, what would you do for $10,000?

I wouldn't get shit on for $10,000. I wouldn't either, but I can see the appeal. That's quick money. Yeah, I guess it depends on how much shit it is, but yeah. Yeah, is it solid? Is it diarrhea? Oh my God, it is diarrhea. Okay, look, if it's solid, you know, I can see that. Diarrhea, absolutely not.

What about piss? You draw the line at piss? That's less disgusting. I wouldn't do it, but I see. Golden shower. I feel like piss is like a big, a big one on only fans too. It's a turn on for a while. It's a, yeah, which I guess,

cause it reminds guys of squirting or something. I don't know what it is. You know? Yeah. Lily said, she got some in her mouth and then the guy didn't drink water for two days. She said it tasted bad. I've never tasted piss before. Thank God.

But one of like the most common fetishes is feet for men. Yeah, there's a site for that. And they say, because when a baby fetus is developing in the womb, they're curled up like this and their feet are closest to their genitals. So there's like a wire that crosses in your brain that connects feet with genitals. Why?

Because of the way you're developing in the limb. So that's why foot fetishes are so common. Good old foot job. I love a foot fetish. Yeah. Yeah. Like you like guys feet? No, I like guys who like feet.

I like having my feet worshiped. What's your ranking on that site, the foot ranking site? Oh, I'm not on that site. That's a scam. You don't make money. Oh really? Oh, I'm not on that site. That's a scam. You don't make money on that site. Oh, the foot finder or whatever? Uh-uh, no, they're rev shares too. You don't make nothing.

Wow, I didn't know that. Cause I used to see them everywhere, but I haven't seen them in a little bit. No, but in real life, I like for a man to like my feet. Like you're getting a foot massage for an hour a night. Like why would you say no to that? People do that? Yeah. Oh yeah.

An hour? Uh huh. I could barely massage my girl's back for like 10 minutes. I remember I was in college once and I was taking a nap at my friend's house and her neighbor had a foot fetish and he came over while I was in bed taking a nap and I woke up to him rubbing my feet. And you like-

When I tell you I pretended to still be asleep so he would keep going cause I love getting my feet rubbed. Wow. You didn't think it was weird? Yes, but it was nice. Wow. That was like my intro to feet fetishes. And did he get laid after that?

No, he was weird. Plus you're picky it sounds like. Very. Yeah, it sounds like you're really. This guy that had a foot fetish that was rubbing my feet in college, he ended up on an episode of Catfish on MTV. No.

That's how weird he is. He got catfish? Uh-huh. Wow. No, he was the catfish. No way. He was catfishing. That's wild.

Yeah. Yeah, that show's OG. Yeah. Imagine ending up on there. That's embarrassing. That's why we have bad attention spans. But they don't put shows out like that anymore. Yeah, someone should reinvent something like that

for O.F. or something. You know out like that anymore. Yeah, someone should reinvent something like that for LF or something. You know what my guilty pleasure is? Is watching my 600 pound life or watching what I eat in a day by those thousand pounders. She knows. Muck banks. I watch the shit out of those. You like that shit? Oh, I love that shit. That keeps my attention. So you got a food fetish.

I guess. You like food in bed too? No. No. I don't like getting messy. I guess. You like food in bed too? No, no. I don't like getting messy. I like watching other people eat. Okay. Do you eat a lot? I've talked about this before.

Yeah? Yeah, like I like if a guy can eat cause it makes him seem more manly in my opinion. Like if a guy's ordering a salad, I just feel like you're a little bitch. Not to turn off. You know, like order a steak and eat it like a man with your bare hands.

And I'm like, I like that. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I guess it's okay. Can you see that? Yeah. Because I've said this before and everyone agreed with me.

No, I agree. If you're ordering a salad as a man, that's a turn off. Sure. Like why are you eating a salad? Yeah. No. Eat a whole steak raw. Yeah.

I like Amanda like tear his food up because it just kind of makes me feel like he tear me up. Yeah. You know, it must be like the barbarian brain in you. Yes, I think I have a barbarian brain. Yeah, like I'm supposed to just be foraging at home and tinkering around while my man is out there. Just like. Gathering.

You said you were a gardener hunting. Yeah. I love homesteading. I just like bake pies all day. Wow. What's your best pie? Whatever you want Pecan. Oh, yeah Southern that's a southern one. Yeah, come on slaps. Yeah apple pie solid. Yeah, what other Oh pumpkin pie? No That's you don't like pumpkin pie. That's like

No, that's garbage. Nobody likes pumpkin pie. I do. You've never had a good pumpkin pie. No, not for me. What's your go-to then? I'd say blueberry probably. Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I love eating.

But I'm more of like a meat eater. I try to do carnivore. Yes. Cause we feel the best. Same. Yeah. It's hard to beat the carnivore. Yeah, we have to like cancel vegans out.

You know, we- Not a fan of vegans. No, I went vegan for two years. I've never been more fucked up in my life. I, uh, it actually messed my, uh, my hormones up so bad that I lost my period for an entire year. Holy shit. Yeah.

Could you ever date a vegan? No. They're in their feminine energy. I'm not dating a pussy like that. Yeah. You said you didn't want kids earlier, right? Mm-mm. You think that'll ever change?

No. I don't think I can have kids. Like I have bad hormonal issues. Yeah. Thank God, because I feel like it's my own birth control. Like my body is like, no bitch, you're not having kids. So my body's just not letting me do it anyways, but children, I would be a bad mom.

I don't have like a nurturing motherly instincts. Like I'm a fun person. I'm like a fun aunt. And like I have a good time with kids, but I obviously need like my own freedom. And so I wouldn't be a good mom. You're seeing more and more women not wanting kids in America.

Yeah, I think it's cause like women have found their independence and we all work now. So we can make decisions for ourselves. We're not like a slave to a husband staying home all day, like the 50s. So we just don't want them. What'd you think of the feminist movement?

I think it's kinda... I don't have tons of opinions on it. I just do kind of like the way the lifestyle was back in the 50s. Yeah. Like when the man does take care of the woman. So you're traditional. Yeah. And that's like getting canceled saying that these days.

Yeah. Why can't you be normal anymore? It's really weird. It's nuts. I mean, Tate really got slammed. Yeah. And like low key, I don't think Andrew Tate is like that bad of a guy.

Like everything he says, in my opinion, seems kind of agreeable. Renata's a woman saying that, that's impressive. A lot of women hate him. The feminists hate him. And then the people that aren't feminists that don't hate him can't say anything because will get canceled for saying that.

Right, for defending him. Yeah, and it's like, it's okay as a woman to be attracted to someone in their masculine energy. Like, that's biological. Yeah. Yeah, he was one of the nicest guys I've ever met. It's crazy how they portray him online.

Is it like a tactic of his? Yeah, no, he definitely exit on for sure. I was about to say, I think the fact that he exit on doesn't do him any favors, but I think in general, like I would be fine to like sit in the same room with him and have a conversation and we wouldn't get into a fight. I'd probably agree with most of the things that he says. He was actually defending Lily Phillips on the podcast. Oh, really?

He said throughout all of history, there's been prostitutes and at least she owns it. She doesn't lie about it. But also like the men are the one hiring the prostitutes. The men are the one subscribing to OnlyFans. The men are the consumers. If you guys didn't consume we wouldn't exist. Right. So look in the mirror. You got to put some of the blame on the men too. Yeah. All the blame. If you guys didn't exist we wouldn't be doing what we're doing. Yeah. A lot of simpsies days. I looked up what percentage of men under 25 are virgins. What is it? 33%. How do we know if that's accurate or not? Yeah I don't know Yeah, a lot of simpsies days. I looked up what percentage of men under 25 are virgins.

What is it? 33%. How, do we know if that's accurate or not? Yeah, I don't know, because it's self-admitted so people could be lying, but I looked at multiple sites and it was anywhere from like 20 to 35, so. Yeah, I don't know. Back when I grew up.

No one was, right? Uh-uh, yeah, because we were like not on the internet all day. We were like banging behind the football field, you know? Well, I think women, I hear this a lot, they go after like the top 20% guys now because of social media. So the guys that aren't good-looking or whatever, they're just not getting action. No, that's not true. You don't think so? No, it's personality.

So many ugly men get pussy as long as they're confident. I think men lack confidence these days because they don't know how to talk to women anymore because they don't have social interaction because they're sitting in front of a screen for too long. It's all confidence. Any man can get with a woman if he's confident enough. Really? Oh yeah, has nothing.

I only hook up with ugly men. Really? I think attractive men are kind of douches and I don't like that. And I don't like a man always getting what he wants, you know? And a man, if they're too attractive and like too groomed, I like my man to be a little more like rough

around the edges. So I kind of go for the uglier guy, especially if they're, if they are confident. You hear that about women too, to be fair. Really? Yeah. The super attractive women get everything they want. Yeah.

So they're just like super hard to please. Oh, women are different. Women are beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. But I think even like the short guys, short kings, they have to make up for their height with their personality. And like nine times out of 10, like a short guy is the most confident guy you'll meet in the room. And they're getting all the pussy.

No. Oh yeah. I fucked up with so many short kings. Well, I love a short king. Damn. That's the first girl I've heard say that. Really? Yeah.

Maybe I'm just an anomaly. Yeah, I think you are. A flat short king. Cause like I thought women were attracted to someone taller than them. They are. However, personality comes into play. Imagine there's like a six foot four guy and he's bashful, can't make eye contact,

can't hold conversation. He's not getting any pussy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. So you could date a guy shorter than you? I have. Really? Yeah. He was like a pit bull

and like a little chihuahua body. Wow. Yeah. I liked it a lot. That's nuts. What about a guy that weighed less than you? He weighed less than me. He did? Yeah, he was short. Wow.

I feel like I wore bigger size clothes than him. Damn. But he had like an attitude on him and it was nice. Well, they call that Napoleon complex. He had it. Yeah, which is- Am I toxic? Yeah, you are. Okay. Yeah. But at. He had it. Yeah, which is- Am I toxic? Yeah, you are.

Okay. Yeah. But at least you know it. Yeah. You said earlier, you know you're hard to deal with. Yeah. Yeah, but at least you know that- But I'm a good time though.

Well, some people aren't even aware of that though, and that's probably- Yeah. Because then they're just like, I don't know. I can really adapt to whoever I'm talking to, too. Like if somebody can't really take what I'm saying, like I'll chill out on them a little bit. Yeah. And I'm also not vocally opinionated. So in real life, like I'm talking to, too. Like if somebody can't really take what I'm saying, like I'll chill out on them a little bit.

And I'm also not vocally opinionated. So in real life, like I'm not like starting problems with people, I just, if we don't vibe, that's it. So I'm on good terms with everybody. Like I have a good presence, but I definitely am not the norm when it comes to like views on things. That makes sense. How do you deal with the hate online?

Do you just block them? I don't get hate online. No way. Look just block them? I don't get hate online. No way. Look at my shit. I don't get any hate. That's the first time I've heard that from an O.F. girl. I don't know how. My comments are not. I don't need to delete any comments. Wow. I think because like online I'm so wholesome because I kind of am in real life and And like I always put out really positive content and I've always been really vocal about like my anxiety,

my agoraphobia, like relatable stuff that I think people know not to fuck with me because like I'm genuinely a nice person, you know? You're so open that they're like, holy shit, like. I guess, yeah. Yeah, makes sense. And I don't know if you could tell from my social media but like I'm not really one to pick on.

Like I'm not materialistic, I'm not posting like Hermes bags and like really annoying shit. I'm just being myself. And it's kind of hard to hate on somebody that does that. Do you post thirst drops? Oh yeah. Like the most people hate on me is like my titties are saggy and it's like, next be more creative.

Like if I wanted to fix that I would, I obviously don't care. You don't want to get any cosmetic procedures? No. Really? My anxiety, I can barely get Botox without fainting. Wow. I can't get anything done.

I'm terrified. Does Botox hurt? Not really. I think it's just the fact that I'm seeing like a needle come towards my face. It like raises my blood pressure and I've fainted before, especially from needles. Holy crap.

So like you expect me to go get a tit job? I can't do that. That sounds painful. Yeah. I'm not a fan of most cosmetic procedures. Yeah. And plus, have you heard of breast implant illness? Yeah.

It affects people with the MTFR, mutetic, what is it? Oh, does it? Yeah, I have that gene break. I have it too. Should I re-say that? MTHFR, right? MTHFR. So, people with breast implant illness, they most likely have the MTFHR.

What is it? Isn't it MTHFR, motherfucker gene? Okay. That's what I thought. Whatever. Correct me on that. That would look great. Yeah.

Shout out to Gary Brekka. She's a fucking idiot. He's who I tested with. Same. So, if I were to get my titties done, having that gene mutation, I'm at a really high risk of having breast implant illness. I didn't know that.

So I was like, why would I get it just to get them removed? Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of pressure to do those procedures as an O.F. girl, I bet. I think if you lack confidence, like I'm just like too confident to even care. Like I'm aware my titties are saggy. I don't care.

Trust me. I'm aware I don't have juicy lips. Like I don even care. Like I'm aware my titties are saggy. I don't care, trust me. I'm aware I don't have juicy lips. Like I don't care, trust me. I don't know. I'm not a fan of juicy lips. I think they look amazing on some girls. I would argue otherwise, but. Oh, on some girls they don't, but on some girls they do.

Yeah. It would look great on me. I just do it. I just like natural beauty personally. Like I don't even. Like then 90s beauty, like 90s Cameron Diaz, 90s Jennifer Aniston, please. Everybody used to look different. I don't, I literally don't even like makeup.

Everybody looks the same these days because like procedures make you all look identical. Yeah. Um, so I miss when people used to look themselves for sure. 100%. Jenna, where can people find you and potentially become a customer of yours? Please just go to my Instagram, jennalee. Perfect, we'll link below. Thanks for coming on.

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