Digital Social Hour - Dr Chris Motley On Curing Gut Issues, Benefits of Eastern Medicine & Curing Lyme Disease | DSH #136
Episode Date: October 21, 2023On today's episode of Digital Social Hour, we sit down with Dr. Chris Motley to discuss the Chinese medicine clock, how each organ is tied to an emotion and cleansing the body of parasites. BUSINES...S INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com APPLY TO BE ON THE POD: https://forms.gle/qXvENTeurx7Xn8Ci9 SPONSORS: Opus Pro: https://www.opus.pro/?via=DSH HelloFresh: https://www.hellofresh.com/50dsh AG1: https://www.drinkAG1.com/DSH Hostage Tape: https://hostagetape.com/DSH LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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physically brain surgeries in China and in Japan where they would use acupuncture
needles through the scalp covering and they would literally do open brain
surgery that was some anesthesia whoa so they had needles that are bendable that
can go into this and go around the cranium so there's so many yeah there's
a lot of them some people do I've seen people do I actually sure I mean could
you imagine I'm serious in a relationship or the your their low
vibration your high vibration if they get sick and
they're not working to get their body healthy, you have a possibility of pulling the energy
onto you.
Whoa.
So it'll pull yours down in music and you start to have a medium frequency.
So your gallbladder starts to get sick.
You start to get resentful and frustrated welcome back to the digital social hour i'm your host sean kelly i'm here with my co-host
wayne lewis what up what up and our guest today dr chris motley thank you for having me i really appreciate it absolutely man
building oh i mean it's great i mean i love the setup and get to know you guys already but yes
talking about age and how far i am behind the times but it's great to be here thank you for
letting me come here i really appreciate it thank you absolutely man you're looking great for 45
and the crazy thing about this is that um uh like
prior to i think me knowing that you were going to be on the show your clip popped up on my explore
page and you were talking about uh losing like hair hair loss is the combination of what is bone
weakness or bone bone density lack of bone then't dent density because the body is not pretty I
guess the minerals are going to the bone versus the hair follicles or something like that the
blood flow and if I talk too much just tell me to back off I get the nerd nerd talk but yes like we
did one about the kidneys and so what it talks about is how the kidneys are have hormones right and it signals to
your bone marrow to produce red blood cells so it doesn't cause all hair loss but if you have
do have hair loss in one area of the head that means that blood flow and minerals may not be
getting to the hair root along the bladder meridian and chinese meniscus so weak kidneys and bladder
does not allow the bones to produce red blood cells so your roots aren't nourished.
So many people have kidney infections and UTIs that could result in hair loss.
And so you'll see where you ever have somebody come up to you and say, hey, when I take a
shower, the hair comes out.
But they're really stressed.
And they don't have a genetic history of hair loss because that's a big thing too.
But you see the small signs and signals in Chinese medicine. And it seems like it helps out some individuals on you know media when we put
those things out but it's really something i see every single day so it's always about weaknesses
and imbalance so yeah so you are not about the western medicine system you're more chinese right
more chinese medicine yes um i have a lot of western medicine doctor friends and we
coincide and we work well together and I love that
They could in a good way
Disprove what I'm saying or prove it in the sense that we can be congruent and talk about it. Yeah, so there's no animosity
You're working together. No, I have to say I've been in this business almost 20 years
And so I'm thankful I can help a lot of people but I've I'm thankful that there's other doctors that are medical doctors and
That route that would send people my way and I send them people
their way so there are sometimes when individuals that would tell me like you
know your bladder could become causing or creating some kind of distress in
your skull causing hair loss there may be some in the medical route that may
not agree with that primarily but I haven't had too much animosity yeah do you feel as if
Western medicine is ineffective is that why you're going Chinese medicine or you
feel like um well what's your overall take on Western medicine in general
because obviously there's a reason why you're like nah Chinese medicine's way
I think that both routes can have their way to
help individuals especially if you have an emergency you have to have a surgery I've had
to have a surgery and we can talk about that later but when I look at eastern medicine the reason I
lean more towards is because they use symptomatology in a different way than western
medicine so I don't say that that I don't agree with Western.
I do agree with some of the tendencies and some of the things they use.
It helps save lives, and I'm so thankful for my friends who do it.
But when I look at symptoms, I can look usually on the skin, the eyes, the tongue,
and that's what Chinese medicine does, and look at small patterns even in behavior,
and that gives me a preemptive way to find out what may be going on with the person so for example if a person comes to me and they
have really dark circles under their eyes and they say my low back hurts
right here in the low back if usually they go to a practitioner they may say
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But my mind is like, well, you probably have kidney issues.
And the kidneys are right where you're pointing to.
It may not show on a UTI test for urinary tract infection, but if you get really extensive
testing guys, I'm telling you, I have labs that will test proteins of certain types of
bacteria.
You will find that there's bacteria that's hiding in the kidneys.
And overall, I've seen this hundreds of times and that's not patting myself on the back,
but I do wish that there was more of a
congruency with eastern and western medicine that there was more of a mesh and there's a lot of
practitioners that do that though right yeah I wish western was more preventative and holistic
like the eastern approach and and when we say preventative too I agree I I wish that that we'd
have whole sections of hospitals that were basically geared for preemptive measures and I
understand that some I've had patients that come in that need to get a hip replacement or a knee hospitals that were basically geared for preemptive measures and I understand
that some I've had patients that come in that need to get a hip replacement or a
knee replacement and many times orthopedics medicine would say okay
just wait till it actually gets injured before you have surgery or we'll do PT
which all can work but in my mind there's no roi on preventative medicine it's um yeah i mean it's it's it's right there is
there is um lots of i guess controversy on how how much uh money's involved time involved quality
of life is involved in with preventative medicine because uh you know measuring the amount of
funding that you have to put into into taking herbs or doing some preventative,
in most cases, a lot less than if you had to have surgeries and such.
Yeah, way less.
One of the things you specialize in is acupuncture.
I've never gotten it, so walk me through the health benefits of acupuncture.
Okay, so in the body, we all have it.
They talk about nerves transmitting electrical signals to make your movement.
In Chinese medicine, the acupuncture are basically pathways that are flowing through your muscles and your fascia.
They do show this on research.
There are small tubes that run through your fascia and your tissue, and they transmit electrical signals.
So it's literally electrical signals that go up and down the body.
They call it bipolar electric signals but if you ever have an area around the body
where there's a problem the electricity will actually build up around that area to try to
heal it so in chinese medicine so let's say somebody had an infection in their spleen like
if you had mono when you're a kid your body will take electrical signals and try to put it all
around the spleen and the spleen then will try to heal and what happens is if it
crowds it then it will stagnate the energy and the blood and it doesn't allow the electricity to flow
down the line to the next organ like a highway right so then they put a needle in the area around
the spleen to help open up the energy to flow down then what down the line so it makes sense because
the body's trying to heal it it's like there's something going on here so if i gave you an acupuncture point what the
acupuncturist would do is check the points and find out which ones are blocked so the energy
would flow to the next highway and the next organ because it's basically in one day when you wake up
you have a highway 12 highways of energy on each side of your body that are circulating electricity
all day right and so you try to find the blocks in each highway.
And that will tell you, along with circadian rhythm, where the problems are at.
Interesting.
How deep does acupuncture go down, the needles?
Oh, man.
It can go very deep.
Yeah.
You can get micro needles, guys, that are like in Japanese style acupuncture and in Korean hand acupuncture.
Very, very light.
Very light.
Some people just press it and pull
the needle back out I've seen needles go I've had it done on me where the needle is this long and
go all the way down to the bone she you know you usually know if you have a fleshy part you'd be
surprised you don't feel it as much as you would think okay if you're on a place that's very
blocked I will tell you sometimes it can be tender but i've seen um physically seen um brain surgeries um and where they in china and in japan where they would use
acupuncture needles through the scalp covering and they would literally do open brain surgery
that with some anesthesia whoa so they have needles that are bendable that can go into this
and go around the cranium so there's so many yeah there's a lot of them some people do i've seen people do eye acupuncture
i mean could you imagine that i'm serious i oh man um but yes it can go deep but um there's
acupressure too now yeah acupressure there's going to be the argument that says what's acupressure
acupuncture which one's better um many of my mentors that have taught me said yes this type of needle like silver gold stainless
steel are better or then acupressure but what they say is all about vectors so how old school
i am you remember like the old school antennas where they can measure put an antenna and it'll
pick up on the frequency that's basically existing in the radio right and it will transmit it through
the wire right they say that's what happens with the needle so if you get the right vector for the needle it'll actually push the
signal into the tissue that the body needs so the body will choose the frequency it needs
and so with acupressure if you can put your hand or your your finger into the right vector you can
open up the tissue just as efficiently as a needle would do
if you have the right vector that's the argument i've seen it work pretty well and uh it's all about
frequencies and what the body craves wow you're also a specialist in parasites oh yeah so i'm on
day three of a parasite cleanser no way what do you do i'm taking some pill i bought off amazon
yeah um so what are some common ways parasites enter the body yeah i heard
about that i don't forget who was speaking about that how it's uh bipolar uh could be a parasite
cleanse being hungry like angry um when you're hungry is means is a clear sign that you have
parasites i i didn't know that you can uh before i go down rabbit trail just
remember stall me because i'll tell you this with parasite cleansing the biggest way that most people
don't realize they get it is going to be through fruits and vegetables um if you wash your fruits
and vegetables i get pictures all the time like and soak them in apple cider vinegar and some
water i've seen worms that come out to the surface because they eat they eat sugars that's what they want okay um that's one of your basic ways
especially from other people you can get parasites from other people especially the parasites in the
teeth you i've had people that get their gums cleaned out in their jaw cavitations and there's
parasite eggs that they find when they see them out at the dentist and a biological dentist and
i don't say this to be scary a biological dentist what's the difference a biological dentist will usually try to find ways because i have a lot of
dentist friends but they'll use things that don't have too much preservatives they try to use more
of an organic route i've never heard of that yeah biological no i wish because i hate that they use
the fake mint and the um that one ingredient that's bad for you yeah blocks your third eye
yeah like a lot of fluoride yeah yes yes if you go to a biological dentist what
they'll do is they could take a picture of your gums gum line I can tell you
stories guys but they'll go through the gum line and they have cavitation so if
you ever got your wisdom teeth taken out what they'll do is they'll leave the
pocket open and so the pocket stays open and what will happen even if you're
trying to wash it out is they'll fester so anything you eat fruit and vegetables the parasites will get in there and then if they reproduce they'll lay eggs
so you have a lot of times where it gets in the gum line and they'll scoop it out and they'll
culture it and you see little eggs and it's really interesting though but when you get it through
fruits and vegetables and another person may have it in their gum line can it be spread that way
through research and what i've seen clinically yes um One of the biggest ways we talked about was lakes and rivers.
And I got a lot of kickback on that as well.
People were like saying, are you a fear monger?
And you're saying that you should never go into a lake or river.
Not at all.
Well, that's where most parasites lie.
They do.
Like they're in fish.
It's their habitat.
And I've had thousands of people message me and say, hey, I remember I got giardia
horribly when I jumped into the river and I got sick because I swallowed the water.
So you can get it through fruits and vegetables.
Other people can get it through lakes and rivers or bad water sources.
And you threw pets as well.
Really?
Yeah, because pets, I'll say this, like yeast, like for example, certain yeast can
come through our skin.
Certain yeast can go on the on the fur of animals but if you
have parasites and they had pinworms and they had larvae and they're sitting on
your couch and such and they're so small and microscopic their eggs you know the
kid the dog kisses you on the mouth or something like that I've had patients
were young young guys I remember they got really sick with parasites and it
should confirmed on their testing and the one parasite that we found was that ones in canines. I was like, do you guys
have dogs? And they're like, Oh yeah. They let them lick them all around their mouth.
And so they have it. So with that guys, a parasite cleansing, when you take the herbs,
the mood does change. And the reason being is because they produce tons of toxins.
And one of the main toxins
or a few of them are called phenolic acids indole these are all fancy words but they're chemical
toxins that you find in a lot of our plastics a lot of our chemical plants so they produce the
same type of reaction in you and they'll fry your nerves and they will change a person especially on
new moons lunar phases and high pressure changes and a person, especially on new moons, lunar phases, and high pressure changes,
and a person can go into ADD, bipolar anxiety, because it triggers their genetics with their dopamine and serotonin levels being altered.
I hope that wasn't too much, but you'll notice that.
Certain people, have you had it where, like, say a lady has hormonal changes, or it's a full moon.
People say, oh, I had one of my friends, she told me, she goes, hey, the crazies are coming you know it's a full moon people say oh and one
of my friends she told me she goes hey the the crazies are coming out when it's
full moon right but you know in the old days they also they said that when
somebody had syphilis and syphilis is a bacteria but they would say they go
crazy because on the new moon the full moons and the lunar phases it presses
down you pressurize
so all the toxins in your tissue that's been dormant push into your lymph
your bloodstream so then your brain starts to get affected and you're like why am i in such a bad
mood and so you start how can you walk around with syphilis that long i guess you can well you can
you say a syphilis or like it syphilis has a lot of the same shape as borrelia like lyme but any
parasite most of them are protozoa um if you're getting on the cleanse um they can be dormant because they can insist
i know it's a lot of gross things to talk about guys but really we don't realize how long they
can hang out because if you imagine that if if you lived in a house and you could stay dormant
and be fed all the time with the same nutrient, this dark environment, warm, cozy.
You never leave.
Yeah.
It's like a roommate that doesn't need to pay rent.
Yep.
They never leave.
You don't know he lives there.
That's right.
Somebody's in the basement playing games and they just take your food and nothing about getting to play games or anything.
But I'm like, that's the kind of effect that parasites and even certain bacteria and viruses have.
Wow.
What is actual Lyme disease itself because I've you hear it I don't have a never I've never met anyone with
like that even I'm from Jersey they're from ticks right yeah yeah a lot of
people in Jersey had it yeah yeah Lyme disease you now it's it's documented all
over the world Lyme disease is just composed of certain types of bacteria
parasites and virus so they say it comes from lyme connecticut
um it can be carried by ticks is that why it's called lime because it came from like oh okay
yeah but if you if you look at like bacteria and viruses they're always named after something like
uh the place they're found or the scientists who found it okay um but the the infections are like
forgive me for going through it but it's like borrelia which is the actual
lime babesia which is like malaria it's like Borrelia, which is the actual Lyme. Babesia, which is like malaria.
It's a parasite.
Rickettsia,
which gets you Rocky Mountain
spotted fever,
like the dots.
Bartonella,
which is cat scratch fever,
like the song,
because you can get it
from dogs and cats.
Scratch?
Yep.
It's in their teeth.
Wow.
And their nails.
Ehrlichia,
which is ehrlichiosis,
which is rashes,
fevers,
constant body ache,
arthritis.
Epstein-Barr virus,
which is big. Anaplasma, mycoplasma arthritis, Epstein-Barr virus, which is big,
anaplasma, mycoplasma, people with pneumonia. You can get it from the tick bite. The list is
starting to grow. Basically, you can get it from mites, fleas, ticks, spiders, mosquitoes.
You can get anything that can transfer blood. If a person out there has symptoms of extreme
migraines, fevers, unexpected weight loss, digestive issues,
heart palpitations, because I had Lyme. Really bad. But the thing is, on the outside, no,
because everybody thinks you look normal. They always say, but you don't look bad. You look fine.
You don't feel normal. No, I tell you, I treat tons of Lyme patients. And individuals that usually
would come to me say, Hey, I feel like i'm going crazy literally like i'm
going mental and we would do certain testing that would test the toxicity of the brain and we'd find
out it would lead back to babesia or lyme so with all that to say guys it's like it's not something
i take lightly because when you have that type of infection they can burrow into your your brain
tissue and they can burrow into your joints so a lot of times people that say why does one sister have arthritis and the other one doesn't you test one of them even
diabetes too it's hereditary but you know it is it's like how it's triggered um one i have a
question just an overall question i've seen something uh that i that i read that said gluten-free foods actually block the brain
it there are evidence that gluten can't there was some studies free food does gluten-free
actually blocks the brain there is i thought it was the other way around no no no no they said
gluten-free food is actually bad for the brain wow okay like whoa whoa there are discussions i do have a really good friend
of mine dr peter osborne who's a master at gluten you know like gluten uh education i do a lot of
work with people with gluten i haven't really i hadn't read that i need to look into that so i'm
honest with like with gluten-free food there are some arguments about the protein of gluten and so
with that to say they say that gluten has other forms like gliadin gliadin
which is in gluten and so that protein is what attaches to your thyroid into certain organs
and that can cause the autoimmune but i need to read about that i haven't read that that's awesome
so what is the chinese medicine clock oh man okay so the clock the clock uh we do clock uh analysis just like circadian rhythm uh when
we talked about the highway think about the highway transmitting signals like a car right
every hour of the day the every two hours of the day the highway one highway is energized i hope
that makes sense so you'll say for instance from 1 a.m. to 3 a.m. is the liver highway.
It's crowded the energy around your liver.
Then it goes into the lung. So it literally transfers over energy into the lung area to help nourish the lungs.
So you have basically a 24-hour clock that has two hours each day devoted to the healing of one organ system so when you have this
traveling of the energy around the body if a person has a block in that highway
it will stall around the organ and caught you'll know that the organ has a
problem because the energy is trying to stall around it does that make sense
yeah and so you'll notice that certain times a day when you have a symptom
that's how I know that organs that have the problem Wow so if
you go to a person and you're doing a parasite cleanse right you can say hit
me up and say hey Molly what's I'm getting up at 2 a.m. every morning and
consistently and you're doing a parasite cleanse like it's definitely in your
liver or in the middle of the day I I can't get what keep awake I have to go
to sleep I and then I
go well how's your digestion because from 1 p.m. to 3 p.m. that's your small
intestine at times where you're basically trying to do what trying to
dissolve food so you you notice what the action of the organ in Western medicine
coincided with your circadian rhythm and you will find a lot about a person well
just what's happening throughout so each hour of the day your body is working on a certain part of it so you pay attention to your
body at certain hours that'll let you know what's going on that's exactly right and what you'll do
is if you take a little diary which is the most boring thing in the world to do of yourself
but if you go well my shoulder's hurting pay attention what time of day and then correlate
it to your parents really oh yeah oh i had gall
bladder issues did your mom have it did your dad have it your grandparents and that stuff gets
passed down genetically too wow so does everyone have the same 24 hour clock or is it different
no everybody's supposed to have it and people then argue go hey what if you go to japan yeah
it's the same over there and i'm like i i hope we're ready to god when i had kobe i was i would be cool during the day but at night
i would get so sick and this was when like it was obviously it was going away yeah but night was my
sickest time as soon as it hit eight nine i got extremely sick but during the day i was fine oh
okay so eight to nine would be his adrenal time his thyroid time it's the it started to become
the triple warmer and circadian rhythm.
So you're basically saying the heart,
the pericardium, the muscles around your heart,
the adrenal and thyroid
are all probably being challenged by the virus.
So you could say that that was your weak point.
So your body's-
Yeah, it felt like extremely hot.
I mean, sweating out through my sweater, like extremely hot.
So what happens when
you you pick up the pace you do your exercise your thyroid and adrenals kick in and you sweat
so your body's doing the same action to fight the infection as you would do to do a workout
so so that was a good thing then it was a good thing because your body's actually working
and that they always say that fevers uh i hate to say it rashes fevers high temperatures are all
sign that your body is actually trying to do what it's supposed to do.
But it must have really affected the muscles around the heart and your adrenal and thyroid because that's where the most action was happening.
Yeah.
No, I was like I would be like sweating, super sick.
My sweater would be like drenched.
Oh, yeah.
That's when I would say, OK, you have COVID.
Yeah.
So you have COVID.
You have COVID. And here's some antiviral herbs to help along with what you're doing with your medical
doctor and then i'd say let's nourish your adrenals and your thyroid but then i would look
at your history and say hey did your mom or dad or anybody them have like really low adrenal function
do they have any type of reproductive issues and it's just your body's responding as your family
would what hours are the most commonly like i guess people have the
most issues with oh american culture yeah oh gallbladder western gallbladder oh man because
what time is gallbladder time like 11 p.m to 1 a.m where people literally go to sleep to 1 a.m
that's late yeah that is do you ever get to where you guys may just sleep through the day you know
like right through the night but how many people would tell you man my sleep was horrible last
night and i might up mine's different every now and then it depends what's older people right
it just depends what's on my mind yeah yeah yeah it's either it's either going to be the
gallbladder time around 11 p.m to 1 a.m um or usually like at the at the uh time where your
body goes into what we call the kidney phase which is usually around 3 to 5 p.m where people
bonk they're like i can't even keep my eyes open or i need an energy drink or i need a big cup of coffee
because that's the kidneys and adrenals are related and that's when your body's supposed
to go and they call vagotonia you're supposed to relax but in american culture we push ourselves
we keep going absolutely so we completely drain our kidneys and that time you you trained your
kidneys and adrenals to always do something.
And they're tired, so you're going to bonk.
Wow.
And if your gallbladder is infected because we, you know, I always make this joke, guys. I used to eat fudge rounds and drink Coca-Cola and everything you can imagine with all the sugar.
And what does it do to your gallbladder?
It just trashes your gallbladder.
You throw in there, you know, antibiotics, birth control, bad water, you know, just, you know, stress just you know stress resentment frustration anger which is the emotions of the
gallbladder and you'll have people that get gallstones or very sludgy gallbladder
and they'll wake up all night is that what causes the kidney stones kidney
stones whenever somebody has extreme amounts of fear or have genetic
predisposition positions of being an environment that was very fearful and
frightening where it shuts down the kidneys and the adrenals and so you had this clogging of all the movement of fluid in
the kidneys so you'll eat stuff that has high oxalates high calcium yes that'll cause it
but a diet that's not beneficial uh can create mineral deposits in the kidneys as well so you
have to really watch the kidneys because infections will get in there
strep staff that'll do it too how important is fasting to you oh man we demonstrate every doctor that but it's they all have their different everybody's has a different view i just did
a really good interview um dr mindy pells and she is big about um fasting and talks about the reset
that occurs i think it's very beneficial okay but i don't know what about the reset that occurs. I think it's very beneficial. Okay. But I was like the times
because you had a clock in fasting. So how does how do
those correlate? That's the biggest thing is like it's so
bio individual. Because I couldn't tell I couldn't tell
you or I couldn't tell you like, do it. And they say that there's
there are certain genes, I do a gene test where it will tell a
person if they're genetically fit for a fast
because they don't have the capacity or they do have the capacity if they can fast
to tear down fats very well.
That makes sense.
So docs will go, you should do it.
Everybody should do it.
But this person with this body type should do four hours a day.
This should be eight hours a day.
If your body genetically has capacity to break down good fats, like from almonds and avocados, you should be able to fast very well
and hit ketosis. If you can't break down fats very well, or even break down your sugars,
like very well, it's gonna be very hard for you. But how do you know if you can break down sugars,
usually if you get the shakes, if you get the shakes easy and have low blood sugar, you know,
when you go, man, I get hangry, and I and i get really really fast like if i don't eat something within
three hours span yeah it's gonna be hard for you to do a fast you can train yourself
so does that that means that your body doesn't break down sugar well when you get hangry yes
because you're not using sugar efficiently okay because sugar is a fast burner and you and you
eat that sugar and your body can metabolize it for two or three hours.
And then your body goes, well, I'm not used to burning fat.
So I'm not going to use it.
So I'm a skinny body type, right?
I burn sugars fast.
I burn fats fast.
But with fasting, such great benefits.
Even with chronic infections, chronic diseases.
I mean, it's just that you have to find what fits specifically.
I hope that's not too big
guys but even like ladies that have their hormonal cycles depending on their age with their diet what
their background is you can have certain links of the fasting yeah i think past 72 hours it starts
killing cancer cells right yep so it's past 70 so i thought it could cancel itself throughout
no you need to have a certain point and they say they get to like when they get into i mean that's
an extreme fast that's nothing yeah yeah and whenever they they start the cells start to recycle
everything on the bad you know inflammation patterns and cells within
your body I think sky's the limit they were talking about different research
where it's killing off cancer cells it's starting to work on parasites starting
work on viruses Wow and that's why people will have the sweat so get kind
of sick afterwards because their body has to find a way to push all the toxins out.
Yeah, I love fasting. Do you believe a person's emotion and mindset can cause disease?
Most definitely. I think if I wanted to talk about something, the most would be that there's a chicken and the egg in Chinese medicine.
Each organ system is congruent with a certain emotion, but I don't try to separate from
Western medicine. Uh, for example, if they say, if you're, if your liver is off, you'll be angry.
If you lived in an angry environment, they say that the liver is challenged because if let's
say you had angry parents and it caused your body to create toxins, they say, it's proven that you
create toxins from your thoughts. They're toxic. What does your liver have to do? It has to it has to has to clean out the toxic load if you're consistently in an angry environment your liver
is going to have to work yeah which screws up your own methylation detox patterns so you'll recycle
your liver toxins and it'll get into your brain and you'll be angry you'll get irritated wow see
and so if if you had kidney issues, your
kidney if you're always afraid, your adrenals are always charged.
You're around people that are afraid.
You're afraid of them.
Adrenals are putting out a lot of adrenaline and cortisol.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani You're afraid of them as in bullying, being
abused.
Dr. Tim Jackson Bullying, being abused, trauma.
I mean, my heart goes out to people.
And then the adrenals shrink, the kidneys shrink.
The kidneys can't put out the hormone erythropoietin
to tell the bones to create red blood cells and people start having anemia,
start having hair loss because they are afraid. So kidneys is fear, liver is anger, gallbladder
is frustration. Gallbladder is frustration. You're small intestine. If you can't digest food,
you have a horrible gut system. Small intestine usually means you're lost or abandoned, the heart or abandoned mentally, mentally,
you can't find focus, you know what your direction is. That's
all small intestine heart.
Also, the heart is linked to totally there the energy
produces food in your heart.
What about negativity? Oh, negativity usually
cavities.
Negativity, though, would be like, usually would say like a mega unmitigated gall, like, you know,ities would be like, usually you would say like a mega and mitigated goal.
Like, you know, somebody was always like kind of upset.
It's usually liver.
Oh, and they're always kind of like negative.
Oh, so that falls under the liver too.
Yeah.
You can't detox very well.
Okay.
So what about positivity?
Positivity.
How does that affect the organs?
Oh, they say that your body gets into a higher vibration.
It's a big term.
It's a higher vibe.
Yeah.
If you can think higher positivity, they say neurologically, it should shut off the areas of your brain that basically harbor frequencies of anxiety, frustration, and fear.
So the more positivity you think, you have to retrain the program cycle of the brain.
Gotcha.
So when people say to fake that you're positive, you need to.
You need to.
Okay.
You have to because you're not going to create a pattern.
They say that it usually takes words or positive wording about 800 to 1,000 times just to get the brain to start to believe it.
Wow, 1,000 times?
That's crazy how energy is directly connected to health.
Exactly.
Like if you thought something like, seriously, people say something like talk to your parasites.
You're like, that is mental. What are you talking about?
Dr. Tim Jackson But it's the truth.
Dr. Justin Marchegiani But if you talk positively to your organ,
they say that each organ has its own enteric nervous system, like they're each working on its
own. But if you can create patterns between your brain and the organ, this is what they say. And
you think positive about the organ, the organ will start to meld with your brain to say, okay, let's
create positive feedback. I want to get rid of all the things that would make me have toxicity.
Whoa.
And there's some great researchers out there.
But I'd say personally in the office, I have seen people that literally you clear out all the parasites,
the yeast, the mold, everything.
And their negativity keeps them still.
You can look at their blood work, but it keeps it in that negative toxic state.
Even when their blood shows that things are it in that negative toxic state even when
their blood shows that things are clear really and it's kind of unusual like your mindset because
i i don't know about you guys i'm always i'm always like i call it the facts and figures i
like math yeah i'm half asian i like math i like like ruby tube um but i always thought about stuff
in settled form but then it got into this energetic realm where i started to see people like
their personality mimics the way they heal if they're jittery and always doing
this their acupuncture system was always jittery and moving quick and so when
they started to change their mindset without really me doing it their health
would change dramatically really yeah emotions are it man I that's the one
thing I I love talking about what I and relationships I see you don't have a ring
on are you married I'm not married okay so almost one but anyway what about how does what about
relationships how does that directly affect the health in certain people oh man um relationship
you ever see that here the notion that a married couple will look like each other yes is because
people will date after a while they start looking they started definitely look like your pet yeah um polaric patterns they call polaric patterns how
you form in the womb your hands follow the cells follow a certain pattern of polarity positive and
negative electrical charges to create your form the more you're around another person's pattern
they say that you can actually transpose some of their pattern into yours you actually vibrate or
have a resonant frequency with them whoa so you actually start to follow the same
patterns they have physically in the body so your cells follow the same
pattern in relationships this is what they say and I've experienced that but
in a relationship if somebody they say is high vibration right yeah or the
your their low vibration your high vibration if their organs are not balanced,
and they're sick, and they're holding parasites,
please don't get mad at me if I'm saying this to anybody.
Say it.
Drum roll.
If they get sick, if your organs are healthy,
and they're not working to get their body healthy,
you have a possibility of pulling the energy onto you.
Whoa.
So you can actually actuate you ever see how people
say like if you speak the same frequency you amplify each other's signal that's how music
works right if that person's vibration is low and yours is high you have to meet in the middle
so it'll pull yours down in music and it'll so you start to have a medium frequency so your
gallbladder starts to get sick and you start to get resentful and frustrated
so you have to find a person in my opinion with a relationship that has the same same views of
positivity and love like you you know it's like if you find somebody's kind of spiteful or angry
and always find something bad in somebody else you're gonna know so you do it and it's not
woo-woo it's literally science that would say that you you know what, I'm going to actuate with this person. And to the point, if you are with the person and you know yourself is sick.
When I had Lyme disease, I wasn't in a relationship because I knew that my organs were sick.
My heart was not good.
I would pull that person down.
Wow.
So I worked on my heart.
And so I was like, well, I was like, because I was getting negative.
And then so I hope that's not too much.
But in a relationship is perfect you better make
sure because whatever organ they have is off correlated to Chinese medicine
clock mm-hmm correlated to the emotions and they start to notice do I start to
do the same thing because that healthier you to work together on wherever you're
you know when your partner is with you work hard work strong and you're gonna
fortify each other amplify get stronger together but if they don't want to work out with you or do a parasite
cleanse with you oh it's crazy you don't do that you're you're going mental be mindful no she did
it with me she's rocking with it see so i still i'm still trying to understand how do we start
looking at life that's i'm still stuck on that so how did the body changes the face changes like it is that exactly like okay so when you start looking like
you're you may in like if you if you there's a thing called curly and photos
have you heard those no no so what they do is they use it was found by mistake
by researching curly but basically they would take a hand and they can measure
and photograph through an x-ray pad but they would take a picture of the hand
and they can measure the light that was coming off your currents of
your hand like the electrical patterns the micro the meridian system so they would have people that
had missing fingers and they put their hand on the same pad and they still have the pattern of a
whole hand and you can do with leaves leaves you cut the leaf in half and you still have the whole
picture of the whole leaf because the pattern is already set so when you're born the pattern set and all your cells are doing are going rolling over end on end
to form your finger pattern right so if you actuate with somebody and they're there beside
you enough you start to vibrate with them maybe the shape of their nose pattern starts to affect
the polaric patterns in your nose so your body
your cells start to actually grow out to the same pattern that they're in so your body will
physically starts to morph itself morph itself yeah that's oh that's that's nice i know you
guys are like can we get rid of can we get done with this no no no this is interesting right
because i mean this this is a this answers a lot of questions well at least some some people are
going to agree with oh there's some people some people whatever like this dude's crazy yeah
yeah do you ever see that people say like look at their dog no no no just like their dog no i
i see people together that's been together so long and they look just alike yep and you think
it's your eyes but it's not yours it's like they follow it yeah um it's just like i think it's
crazy when you're a kid and you grow older and they say
oh you look more like your great-grandfather now as you got older i was like why because the
polaric shifts in their patterns their electrical field shifted just like the grandfather would
is it true a lot of diseases like cancer start in low frequency environments that's what they say
and i see like they say with you know because there's that talk about acidic and alkaline environments.
But low frequency also could be they say, in the presence of low emotional frequencies.
So you can have acidity from high amounts of yeast fungus and some researchers say that
cancers thrive in the acidic yeast environment.
So if you have an infection that's creating such acidity in your body the vibratory
patterns of your own cells actually decrease so you're trying to get a nice
healthy vibration all of a sudden it's slow so it can't operate 100% mm-hmm so
cancer cells are there to do a couple things that they create because they
destroy your other cells right so high infection sites they say can create it
high yeast and fungus can I emotionally can I go on this part they say can create it high yeast and fungus um can i emotionally can i go on this part
they say that um there's research and some people may know about have you heard of german new
medicine no well the research was dr homer some people may think he was kind of different with
his research but he developed cancer after his son died but basically what he said was that
the emotional patterns that they did cat scans on individuals.
And they found that there, he did like over, don't quote me on this, we may have to research,
but I think it's over 90,000 cat scans.
Whoa.
And we'd find different rings around their brain.
And the rings, they thought they were anomalies.
They thought this is just a pattern in a CT scan.
But what they found was when you're in the womb and you're developing you have three types
of cells meso mesoderm endoderm ectoderm and from these cell layers all your whole body forms your
organs your tissues your skin everything but he found out these little little areas in the brain
were correlating with the area that the person would develop cancer
so he found that each person that had it had a huge traumatic event in their life of injury
of emotion that settled into that area of the brain and created a field wow so you so things
that happen in life create cancer that's what he's saying i can't say that because i'm very careful
because i don't want anybody that does cancer well i mean it's a direct correlation there's a
correlation with they say emotions wow with, they say, emotions.
Wow.
With your emotions.
And it just lays dormant.
It lays dormant.
And so it creates a program with the organ that the anomaly, right?
There's a connection between that area and the organ.
That's what they're saying.
So if, like, let's say the kidney.
The kidney had some form of tumor or cyst or cancer they would find
that there were certain areas of the the brain that would actually have an
anomaly that showed there was a trauma that created fear Wow and the fear was
creating a program with the kidney and the kidney would build up guys build up
to help respond to the fear so the kitty would go into what we call a refugee
complex mm-hmm so they would, I'm out of water.
I'm out of, I'm a fish out of water.
I'm scared.
I need water to survive.
So the kidney would swell.
This kidney would swell to actually absorb more water to survive.
Right.
But what happens when the kidney swells so much it has to be broken down?
It has to naturally break down.
Right.
So they say sometimes infections get into the kidney to break it down.
It allows it to happen.
So you have
these environments that are set up to allow growth and tear down and so it can create a difference in
the body where maybe cyst form maybe fibroids i can't say that for certain guys but that's what
they say those low frequency operations i hope that doesn't ruffle any feathers but that's what
they say it's worth getting this out there. Yeah. I mean, so overall, when it comes to health,
obviously it's food and what you actually put in your body,
it is things you do every day, but it's also your environment,
your physical environment,
the things that you're involved in the people that you're around,
the things that you deal with emotionally are actually a direct correlation,
which actually a lot more important well not a
lot more important but equally as important as working out diet and everything else yeah it
totally is like when we talked about low frequency environments um you know if you don't have proper
workout and the proper food if you eat something that's too high in starches or carbs if you don't
get enough fatty acids but if you're around people too then and i'm not putting down people that are
around you if you have people that are negative but if they're around people too, that, and I'm not putting down people that around you, if you have people that are negative, but if they're not in that healthy environment,
you know, but if you do, they, it creates a lower vibrational pattern in the body.
And, you know, because like we talked about any type of like, you know, autoimmune disease,
or if you're talking about cancers and I don't plan to be a cancer expert and I'm not saying
that, you know, low vibrations cause all cancers or any any of that i'm saying that when you have
lower environments of vibration you start to see that diseases and infections are probably going
to be more rampant in those in fact in those areas and it all starts with food well um in my opinion
so when we talk about yeast or fungus growing and things growing in those environment your gut
bacteria your gut bacteria basically are what help you create enzymes to
digest your food it helps you create neurotransmitters it helps you with
breakdown of toxic substances if you eat something like if you eat too much
processed foods and eat too much you know refined carbs you literally are
giving fuel to the guys that not every bacteria is bad e coli is not bad in all
itself and people give it a bad rap it does certain functions your body but
feeding the improper food foods in the improper water and the improper air will always create a
low vibration state. So and I hope that you know, guys, I didn't go too far on the
note. What so what, before we close out what actual foods from meats to some vegetables on a low end should people be eating every day?
Well, again, and I hope this doesn't –
Starting with the meats.
With the meats.
They say that vibratory patterns of like pork can be lower for individuals.
They say the anti-inflammatory diet that meats like lamb and all grass-fed beef,
even bison are probably the more add you
know advantageous to an individual certain fish now with that those are
some of your most beneficial I can't say pork is bad all time I come from a
Korean you know back there pork is like really good when you get it in your soup
they say that certain the pwn the marrow of bone of pork actually builds a lot of
the blood in your body so it's how you clean the meat it's kosher to treat korean culture actually um so i don't want to be vague
but it's like it really does depend on in general like about how your body genetically can break
down the food but i would say that like good grass-fed those are the meats i was talking about
two minutes something not everybody could eat it but they say that um lighter fish like a
pritikin diet like a pretty can diet like
a Mediterranean diet right those lighter fishes are probably up on the scale that
you should eat so an anti-inflammatory diet is probably the basic pattern that
most people should try to follow because it's not going to create too much
histamine response in the body either so and with the fruits and vegetables I
always say if you can, reduce high sugar fruits.
Like if you have some like pineapple.
I love pineapple, guys.
Don't get me wrong.
It's high sugar?
It can be high sugar.
Bananas can be high sugar.
Watermelon?
Certain types of apples.
Watermelon can be sugary depending on what phase it's in.
What about purple grapes?
Purple grapes can be very high.
Though I love.
Don't get me wrong, guys.
It's just like I'm saying that if you say high sugar glucose index fruits and vegetables you have to moderate it and make sure
that your other parts like your good proteins and your fats are in that congruency so eat fruit
along with the protein meal you know always try to find foods in my opinion that are low glycemic
index and try to follow that pattern okay so i hope that wasn't too like so what fruits would
you recommend blueberries blueberries are always good blueberries the brain right yeah blueberries
are good for the kidneys because they're colored blue like the water element in trinidad blueberries
blackberries raspberries um certain cherry ones i don't like well the thing is like i hate booboo
i can't eat them raw yo if you have to find out the fruits, I always tell individuals that whenever you find any fruits that you like and you don't like,
look at the anti-inflammatory diet and try to model, find things in there that you like.
Then be inventive.
Take the things you like.
Make a juice or something.
Yeah, I want to make a diet.
I don't want anybody out there to think that when I talk about chronic
yeast or fungus for a diet or low vibration, what I'm trying to say is you don't want to
live a stagnant life where you can't enjoy a piece of pizza. Like you, you never have a cup
of ice cream or a bowl of ice cream. No, get your gut settled and get your yeast and your,
and your bacteria really, really in a good formation, you'll be able to eat it.
Absolutely.
Man, I could talk to you for hours.
I hope this was good.
And guys, can I just say though, I mean, for anybody out there though,
I'm just saying that it does have like those diseases we talk about,
like Lyme disease, they deal with cancer and autoimmune.
The things like when I talk about them, like I'm just trying to say like for me,
like when I say low vibration or anything that can bring the vibration
low like an emotion or food my heart goes out to those individuals and i always tell them like give
me some good feedback because i want to know like if there's extra research behind it you know and
so i hope i didn't say anything too controversial for the podcast or anything whatever's controversial
it'll be on the clip just where can people find you and ask for help and stuff
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as well thanks for tuning in guys see you next time peace