Digital Social Hour - Evolution vs. Creation: Who's Right? | Harry Paul Davies & Gavin Mayo DSH #704

Episode Date: September 7, 2024

🚀 Dive into the ultimate showdown: "Evolution vs. Creation: Who's Right?" on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! Join the lively debate between Gavin Mayo and Harry Paul Davies as they tackle hot topics like health, vaccines, and the essence of life itself. Packed with valuable insights, this episode is not just about differing views, but about questioning everything you thought you knew. 🤔 Don't miss out on this engaging conversation, filled with bold opinions and thought-provoking arguments. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🎙️ Join the conversation and let your voice be heard—what side are you on?   #MentalHealthMyths #TrueHealthMyths #BigPharma #MedicalMythsDebunked #DebunkMedicalMyths   #MedicalMythsDebunked #FoodMythsDebunked #MedicalExpert #HealthMyths #BigPharma   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:38 - Health and Wellness 02:39 - Vaccines and Immunization 06:50 - Can You Catch a Virus? 11:17 - Do Vaccines Cause Autism? 14:00 - Understanding AIDS 17:36 - The Holocaust and History 18:54 - Religion and Belief Systems 20:48 - Dating and Relationships 24:47 - Evolution and Natural Selection 29:40 - Politics and Society 30:05 - What Would You Do If Your Arm Got Chopped Off? 31:28 - Are You Pro Western Medicine? 33:20 - What If They Didn't Have Cancer? 34:55 - The Story of Dr. Nick Gonzalez 36:50 - Dentists and Oral Health 37:37 - Outro   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail]   GUEST: Harry Paul Davies & Gavin Mayo https://www.instagram.com/mayo https://www.instagram.com/harrypauldavies   SPONSORS: Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

you really think that you can i just pulled up pictures of viruses they do not exist they are not they are not something that you can see under a microscope viruses exist it is something within your body to clean your body obviously it's a thing but it's not something you look at under a microscope it's not something you can attract it's not something you should be scared of killing bacteria killing virus you can kill yourself see viruses under microscopes all right so find me one and show me. Alright, guys. First ever debate on the show. We got Gavin Mayo vs. Harry Paul Davis here today. Give you guys some

context. They are friends, but they disagree on a lot. So I think it'll be fun today. I think it will be for me. Let's start off this thing with health because you guys have totally different viewpoints. You eat McDonald's every day, right? Well, I mean, for reference, on the way here, I bought two slices of pizza from 7-Eleven, a white monster, and a banana bread, and it was delicious. Well, yeah, they taste great. I'm not saying you can't do that.

But you're more on the nutritional side, right? Well, I'm more on the side of, again, like, I do things that aren't good for me. I smoke cigars. I smoke shisha. I drink alcohol sometimes. I don't think there's anything wrong with anybody doing that. Everyone does their own. I'm just here to argue the facts of things. So whether I do it or not doesn't really matter. We're just here to talk about, yeah, you can say that pizza is not good for you. I think we'd all agree with that. So it depends what we are in disagreement with.

I don't think eating pizza is bad. I don't think it's good for you, but I don't think it's a bad thing like everyone does it whatever i've had pizza before in terms of longevity though do you think that will impact your health no i don't don't massively think so because i'm generally healthy i go to the gym every day i mean maybe when i get older potentially but for now i don't see i don't see the the issue being as huge where i'd stop i'd stop doing it and i'd change diet yeah but you think you're healthy how do you know i am i if we go because you feel good if we go to if we go to let's say a pharmacist tomorrow and we do one of those machines which measures you know muscle muscle mass index etc etc i don't believe in any of that though

how can you not believe in that though there is a machine to tell you if you're healthy or not but there's a clear a clear line between the amount of fat on your body the amount of muscle on your body you think fat is a bad thing oh jesus christ okay explain explain to me why in your opinion gavin that you think that fat is not about i don't think how do you how do you soak up in industrial toxins in today's day and age would you agree that the hair quality is terrible and a lot of things we do are terrible for us? How do you dispose of those toxins? I feel like all of this industrial toxin, heavy metals and vaccines,

I feel like it's one big psyop. I genuinely believe that... I think it's a psyop too, in the wrong way. Well, I think the opposite way. Let's do vaccines, because I feel like that's definitely something that we massively disagree on. Now, for reference, I didn't have the vaccine, but that's more so because I don't like needles.

I'm not a needle fan. But you weren't afraid you were going to get sick? No, I wasn't afraid of a vaccine, no. Because you must be vaccinated from when you were a child. You have to have been. Yeah, of course. And that's why I've been trying to fix my health. But a lot of people, I have cousins that weren't, that feel differently.

But let me ask you this. Would you drink ether, liquid mercury, formaldehyde? Would you drink those? No. So why would you inject it into your body? Because of the amount. If it's a very, very tiny amount. So the reason you're getting a vaccine is to prevent you getting a disease, right?

Vaccines do work. The reason that- No, it's the cure of a disease that you've never even gotten before it's just fear-mongering that's not the case at all measles mumps rubella in the uk massive massive epidemic they introduced a vaccine measles measles rubella gone it's it's it's known you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't argue back to every single point who told you that because then because then nothing i mean you can't argue that injecting liquid mercury into your body is in any shape in that case in that case i could say to you well i don't believe

liquid mercury is in vaccine let's just talk about this what is a vaccine and why are they created right vaccine you think they're there vaccines vaccines go back to 1796 edward jenner okay realized that the milkmaids that got cowpox didn't get smallpox. I know all about it. So therefore, you accept that's a thing, yeah? You accept that happened or not? Yeah, of course, but it doesn't mean he's right. It doesn't matter how the vaccine was created. I'm saying, is a vaccine healthy

for you? That's all we have to talk about. Yes. Is a vaccine healthy for you? So why would you not drink liquid mercury, formaldehyde, ether, all the stuff in vaccines, but you would inject it in your body, whether it's in 0.0001 milligram, telegram, filogram, whatever it is, versus drinking it? Your argument you make to me, okay,

where's the proof that liquid mercury is in vaccines? What do you mean? It's known. You just said that I can't use points that are known either. No, no, it's not a thing where it's like, oh, measles is an epidemic. That's just someone's opinion. So you believe that vaccines as a whole should not exist.

Nobody should be vaccinated when they're born. They should just be left. 100%. That's ridiculous. There's nothing more toxic that you can inject in your human body

than vaccines. Autism is caused by vaccines. Disease is caused by vaccines. Why did you not get the COVID vaccine if you're so nervous about it i'm not nervous about it i don't like oh you just don't like needles so a lot of people they got it because what is the most profitable thing in the world making someone get something that they don't need and fearing them into it if i told a person on the street right now listen if you do not drink

this formaldehyde mercury and ether you're gonna, okay, okay, okay, give it to me. But if I tell them, hey, drink this, drink this liquid mercury, they might be like, I'm good. But if you fear people into doing something, and then you make them pay you for it, that's all it is. It's the same thing with rabies. Rabies doesn't exist. It's all vaccines.

It's money to give to these vaccine companies. It's $100 billion a year industry for rabies vaccines, for dogs and cats. You are forced. I don't even have an animal, but I know, and my girlfriend has an animal, and all this stuff,

you are forced to get your dogs and cats vaccinated in the US. Why would they do that? If you look down a microscope now, okay, the rabies virus, okay,

you look down, you see it there. You don't believe that's a virus. You can't, you cannot catch a virus. It's not alive. It's the same thing if I put whatever, trigonosis,

trigonosis parasite, they exist. You cannot catch a virus. No, you cannot. Have you ever seen a virus? They're all AI. No, no, no. You've never seen one under a microscope. You've seen bacteria under a microscope.

A virus is not alive. You one under a microscope. You've seen bacteria under a microscope. A virus is not alive. There is no... I can Google right now. Let's just check. Here, here. Let's Google this right now. So you believe you can't... Viruses don't exist in your opinion.

Let's see. Virus. Picture of a virus. Picture. That's weird. Do any of these look like... Do any of these look like something that you see under a microscope? This is all AI generated.

What the fuck is this? Type in under a microscope. That probably is from a microscope. No. You don't believe that you can catch viruses. No, I don't. They're not alive. There's not even really a comeback to that because it's such a ridiculous point. I think that bacteria and viruses equals bad.

Bacteria and viruses equals good, in my eyes. It is good for your body. It is the soap to clean your body. When you throw up in a Petri dish and you take it to a lab, there's going to be heavy metals, toxins, industrial chemicals in that throw up. When you get sick, it is not bad.

You are not catching something. You cannot catch a cold. You cannot catch the flu. You cannot catch this disease. It is all based off of industrial toxins. How would you explain? Let's say the person next to you has a cold. Next week, you have a cold.

Same way as two trees. Leaves fall off one tree at the same time as the other. You could argue the same thing when everyone was sick with COVID. Why was every single person in the world not sick at the same time? Oh, because I guess because I cough on someone. Because you can transmit a disease. So if it was true for one, why would it not be true with all? My girlfriend had COVID and I didn't catch COVID and I was kissing her.

So why did I not catch COVID? Because it's not the same with every person. It only transmits sometimes. That's common knowledge though, Gary. I don't believe that you can catch a virus. I don't believe you can catch bacteria. I don't believe they you can catch a virus. I don't believe you can catch bacteria. I don't believe they're bad for you. That's the whole point that I'm making

is this whole thing is constructed whether they're doing it for profit or they're doing it just because they're wrong. Because remember, germ theory wasn't a thing until, I don't know, maybe 200 years ago. When you look under a microscope and you see, let's say, bacteria. I'm not saying it doesn't exist.

I'm not saying it's not harmful and I'm not saying that it is not in your body. Let's take salmonella, for example. I eat raw chicken. Everyone's like, salmonella, you might die. You have salmonella in your gut right now. If you throw up in a petri dish, we can do the little science thing. We can go to a lab and you will have salmonella in that throw up somewhere along the lines.

Whether it's a lot or a little, salmonella is a good thing. It helps your body, helps digest things. It's not a bad thing. And when you get sick and you have diarrhea, that's not bad. That is your body's way of soaping and detoxing and cleaning the body out. The more sick you get and the more often you get sick means you're probably unhealthy and you need to detox more often people didn't get sick thousands of years ago let's just say black death for example this big disease that happened do you know why black death happened not because they caught it because people started heating their house with coal that's it what industrial chemicals and then people started to detox because

of it and they called it a disease it's all just one giant but the problem the problem we have here right okay so that what you've just said there is an opinion my opinion on the black death would be yeah we both have opinions on it i'm just thinking about it logically my opinion my opinion on the black death would be it was a disease caused by fleas that were on rats on cats and dogs and then everybody caught the disease the problem the problem we've got with this debate as a whole is that, I mean, I could say anything. I could say the Black Death was caused by,

I don't know, a magical wizard. But that's not what we're talking about. We're just talking about logic. We're just arguing logic and reason. But the logic is... You really think that you can... I just pulled up pictures of viruses. They do not exist.

They are not... They are not something that you can see under a microscope. Viruses exist. It is something within your body to clean your body. Obviously, it's a thing, but it's not something you look at under a microscope. It's not something you can track. It's not something you should be scared of. Killing bacteria, killing virus equals killing yourself. You can see

viruses under microscopes. Alright, so find me one and show me. Those pictures you just showed there. 3D images of viruses. Let's go. Go on. Let's resort to Google if we're going to be doing that. I mean, we don't have to resort to Google, but these... No, no, I will. Does this look like it's under a microscope? Let's see.

Virus under microscope. This definitely isn't. Electron microscope. Thank you. I mean, you can check up... This doesn't necessarily prove or disprove my point or your point. There we go. I'm just saying.

Okay. Not AI generated. Virus under an electron microscope. Is that a virus? Or is that just a picture coming up on Google? Oh, for fuck's sake. But it's a point. I'm just saying. Okay, not AI generated. Virus under an electron microscope. Is that a virus? Or is that just a picture coming up on Google? But it's a point. This is a pointless debate. That could be a bacteria.

I don't know the specific one. And is that something that's harmful? That's the point I'm making. And that's what I'm talking about. You're saying viruses are harmful and you need to be taking a vaccine. There's nothing more toxic for you than injecting something into your body that you do not need. It's all for profit. There's nothing more toxic for you than injecting something into

your body that you do not need. It's all for profit. That's my first point. And my second point is you do not have to fear viruses. You don't have to fear bacteria. Go play in the mud, let your kids cough on each other and get sick, whatever. It's good for them. Those are my two points. So what do you disagree with those two points? I disagree on the fact that certain diseases require vaccines because they are especially dangerous. Okay. That, and that, that is a fact. I'd link back to what I said before. Measles in the UK killed millions of children. That's a known fact. I know people. So does cancer. It kills millions of people. Cancer comes from industrial toxins. So does

every disease. It is all caused by the body detoxing if you have an inability to discard those dead cells they will accumulate you will get sick and you will die so millions of kids were dying in the uk of measles measles vaccine now they're immune to measles now it's not a thing anymore and they're not dying anymore so logic logic it's the same thing as black death it can move on to another disease now they're saying that whatever the flu the flu could just be black death logic would dictate that the virus because we were both logically logic would detect that the virus okay is no longer a thing because everyone's vaccinated against it okay and now who said it's no longer a thing doctors with vaccines they say it's cured now thank you

for the vaccine now you're cured you're just you're going off of just common knowledge from the medical industry that's all you're going off of i'm telling you that i disagree with everything within the medical industry so again it goes back to the point you don't you don't have any vaccines to back it up you think this is this is this is what i just told you a fact would you drink liquid mercury ether and detergent that's what's in a vaccine that is a fact if you want to go find out i will bet you whatever you want to bet what's in a vaccine a vaccine uh by design okay as it was created you know hundreds of years ago it's a very small amount of the disease yes i know i know i know how vaccines work going on about liquid

mercury curing all it's just bollocks it is okay is liquid mercury in vaccines yes or no i don't know okay i do know and it's a yes. If you think no, then we're not ever going to agree. It is not healthy. On to the next point. What was the other point that you disagree with that I'm wrong about, that bacteria and viruses are dangerous?

I don't believe they're dangerous. So we can go off and talk on all these different topics and go off on a tangent on different things. Vaccines are dangerous. That's my stance. Bacteria and viruses are not dangerous that's my stance so how what do you disagree we already okay let's go let's go one of the most dangerous the ebola virus right okay literally causing people to start fucking bleeding from

their eyes and shit you mean one person that caught the ebola virus in the u.s and made everyone freak out about some crazy disease coming and killing you it's it was in africa there's no disputing that maybe same thing as aids which is still in the u.s and in africa do you believe in aids i believe aids was created by the government to kill gay people oh my god on to the next topic it's hard it's hard to have an argument about it is it's hard but it sounds like i'm saying crazy stuff but again this this is all your a lot of your thinking is just based off of common knowledge and the medical industry that i just disagree with and we can go and around the rosie for hours yeah but do you really believe in the whole science thing in the stuff i

don't believe in that stuff you you think that me saying I don't believe in science is crazy, but all this science crap, they say science tells you that a vaccine is good for you. I don't believe that. And I think it's the same thing with science. They can say that cigarettes are good for you, like they did in the 1930s. And then 30 years later, it comes out,

it's actually bad for you. It's the same thing happening right now with the COVID vaccine. It's all the same. The same ingredients are in the COVID vaccine. Actually, pre-2000 vaccines had even more liquid mercury. So if you're taking the COVID vaccine, you're taking the same vaccines you had pre-2000. It's all the same. All vaccines are bad. I would hope you would agree on that. And most people in the audience would. I don't think that's anything too crazy.

And viruses and bacteria, I don't think are dangerous. So if you disagree with that, I guess onto the next point, we probably won't make much way on there. Do you want to conclude or do you want to go on to the next one? Yeah, I believe that, look, okay, what you're saying about the COVID vaccine, et cetera, it's isolated cases. Okay, somebody took the COVID vaccine, they got ill. You could say that with anything.

You could say somebody ate raw meat and then they became one. Oh, but you're going to say that's a good thing, of course. Well, it's not necessarily isolated cases. It's the fact that they injected themselves with toxic elements. That if I went to you on the street, instead of drinking, you would never do it. But people are injecting their body, whether it's 0.001 grams or 0.1 grams. It's all toxic. It is so hard to get mercury out of the human body.

That's what I've been doing the past two years, is actually removing all these heavy metals that I got vaccinated as a child and through different foods and just whatever, just growing up chlorine. So how is your heavy metal content at the moment? How do you test it? Do you blood test?

I don't need to blood test it. You just know from getting sick. You know from feeling better. I mean, in the first couple of months I died, I felt terrible, but you just have to trust in the process and you have to look at

other people's results within the community and that's all it is. You're not basing it on anything. You're basing it on personal feeling. I'm basing it on how I feel and how other people have done it

and how other people have been cured of autism. Your mercury content could be extremely high. No? You don't know because you never tested for it, no? Am I right in saying that?

You've never tested for your heavy metal mercury content. I don't know because you never tested for it no i'm all right in saying that you've never tested for your heavy metal mercury content i don't believe in blood tests okay none of this stuff is crazy if you if you believe that yeah every single time you get a blood test all this stuff it's going to tell your chronological age and your testosterone all this your blood constantly changes constantly changes you cannot test it in a smart manner and make any sense of it. It's all crap. It's all just,

everything's for profit at the end of the day. Right, on to the next point. Okay. So I have 9-11 here, but you guys actually agree on that one, right? Oh yeah, we both agree on 9-11. So what's your stance, just so people watching this can know it?

It was just a terrorist attack. So nothing malicious? No. Okay. Same thing with the whole Netanyahu stuff happening now. No government would risk fucking up their reputation and causing a potential civil war over killing you really think george bush is sitting there like oh yep let's kill all these people in a tower like

people are just retarded okay any other conspiracies you guys actually believe in though i believe in a ton of conspiracies i mean people call them conspiracies but actually to be honest i think 99 of conspiracies on the internet are retarded but yeah i mean i believe in different things that i wouldn't people don't really call conspiracies but yeah for the most part i mean what are common conspiracies that i would argue is wrong trying to think what's a conspiracy i don know. What do people talk about? Holocaust not being real? I don't think the Holocaust isn't necessarily real. It definitely happened, but we're not going to talk about

this. That's a deep one. Yeah, what are some common ones? We talked about Flat Earth. I mean, that's one. That's boring. Government programming. Yeah, so I don't think there's people sitting in a room around a table like, oh, yeah, let's create COVID

and make them submissive. And there's not some person that runs the world. Everyone's like, oh, the Rothschilds run the world. The Rothschilds don't run anything. They just own a few wineries in France, and everyone thinks they're running the world and puppet stringing. I agree.

The people that run the world is this. Ken Griffin, he writes all the options, puts and call contracts. And Larry Fink, those two people run the world. That's simple. And the feds. That's it. Not George Soros? George Soros is one of them.

Those people are the top of the top people. But they don't sit there. There's no Illuminati. They don't sit there and they're not Illuminati. They're not fucking with people. They're just the richest people in the world and they get anything they want. Larry Fink wants to tax Bitcoin at 80%. Done. They can do what

they want when they want. But they're not sitting there like fucking with the population. Religion. Where do you guys stand there? I'm not religious whatsoever. What about you? I'm religious in a different way than a lot of people would think. I grew up super strict Catholic but I do believe

there is some God somewhere along the line. And as a logical person, it would be stupid to not believe in God. The only logical thing would be to believe in it and follow his teachings because you have everything to lose by not believing it, but everything to gain by believing in it. So let's just say God doesn't exist and you did all of his teachings and there's nothing to lose. But let's say God does exist and you don't do his teachings,

you do everything to lose. So you might as well just follow his teachings. So I disagree on that, obviously, because in the industry, I mean, it's probably, as you would say, as everyone loves to quote on Twitter against God's teachings. So, I mean.

I mean, I'm not saying you have to go to church and like dress up in a Pope outfit, but if you're just a good person and don't ever commit a moral sin, then probably will go to heaven if there's a heaven. And that's all you need to do in life. People get too much into this whole like religion thing, especially these like Palestinian, Israel, Catholics. It's just all like, they're just all so annoying. Some of them are cult-like in my opinion. Yeah. It's just, yeah, it's just all like they're just all so annoying some of them are cult-like in my opinion yeah it's just yeah it's just a call like anything else so would you label yourself as atheist i'd say so i don't feel overly strongly i mean in my opinion people can believe what they

want of course it's fucking free country at the end of the day and i guess the the teachings of religion are generally a good thing you know okay treat others as you would like to be treated you know be a generally good person be an upstanding citizen personally i don't believe that there is a god but i mean i'm going to go around telling people not to follow it because of my own personal beliefs at the end of the day the teachings are there and i guess they're a good way to live your life so if you want to live like that and you'll probably change your mind i'll probably change my mind and everyone will probably change their mind throughout time i mean some people don't believe in god till they're 50 so people look too much into it have your own own faith. As long as you just do good,

it doesn't matter if you believe in them or not. The religion argument is kind of boring, to be fair. Yeah. Makes sense. Let's talk dating

because you're both in your 20s, young 20s, both self-made millionaires. Do you guys have similar views with dating? Why don't you go first? Well, what's your view on dating? I don't have a girlfriend right now.

I mean, it would be good to find... We do actually have a fairly... Because we were discussing this in car yesterday. I mean, yeah, if I'm going to find somebody to date at a long term, it would be ideal if that person had never been with anyone else, whatever. But I do believe that the whole red pill space of, oh, I can only marry a virgin, it's becoming ridiculous.

And what you also find is nowadays that the guys... They don't even believe that, though. Well, the guys that do believe that now because they've been preached about it by certain figures on the internet, you're going to have 90% of guys eventually, oh, I'll only believe that though. Well, the guys that do believe that now, cause they've been preached about it by certain figures on the internet. You're going to have, you know, 90% of guys eventually are only Mario Virgin supply and demand.

I mean, basically all these red pill guys on Twitter and all the tight suit guys that talk about the brotherhood and smoke cigars, they're all losers for the most part. And all their girlfriends are fucking ugly. So the issue is these people are coming from a place of, they have no experience or they have ugly wives or whatever it is. I mean, whatever, let's just put looks out the window. I mean,

a lot of these guys are, it's like those, those memes where it's like, yeah, when the bitches show up at the party, they're like, a lot of those guys are like that. They like to talk a big game. And then, you know, we were like, well, that girl's hot. Go talk to her. And I'm like, oh, so yeah. I mean, as far as dating and everything, I think the whole just going around and fucking a bunch of chicks is kind of retarded. And there's no point. Why would you fuck a bunch of fours? And you should mainly just be trying

to find someone to raise your kids. And you should try to have as many kids as possible, whether that's with 10 women or one woman or whatever, people each their own. But yeah, you should have as many children as possible because when you die no one will care about you except for your family so it's more it's more from a time perspective really if you're if you're spending all of your time going around sleeping with different women

whatever whatever it's just there's nothing wrong with that yeah exactly but you're not gonna be as focused on your business you know yeah but if you're rich who cares i know guys that just come from rich families that just they're just there's nothing to worry about and they'll just fuck like 100 chicks a year and go to Russia and go to Brazil. And just that's their life. It's like a hobby. Same thing as like if your hobby is racing cars or gambling, like it's just what they do. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. But I would say a lot of these guys, they try to act so cool.

Like, oh, your girlfriend should be a virgin. But there probably is some truth to it that as a guy, you shouldn't go around and have like a 30 body count 50 body counting like you should only probably have a body count with people that are you know real and that you actually love and whatever i don't i don't believe in what you said about the um the dna remaining though that was a wild statement how's that loud because right we're gonna have to go back to the whole scientific element right let's let's let's take ivf right you know this obviously so you have an egg okay you have the sperm it's not natural one sperm fertilizes the egg there you go you have the child there's no there's absolutely no anything to back up what you're saying about dna being that's a known thing people talk about it all the time i know people talk

about it but there's nothing to back it up i mean what's there to back up that it isn't true because you can look at it under a microscope you You can see it with your own eyes. So again, you're going back to the whole science argument and doctors telling you this and that. It's just if a guy sprays his DNA inside of a woman, it will stay within the mucous membranes. It's the same thing if you sprayed some shit in your body. It's going to stay there if it's meant to stay there.

Your body's not going to reject it, especially one of the one things that give you life. It's not going to reject that sperm. It's going to stay in there. You can watch it happen. If we went to an IVF room, you could literally watch it happen. Just ask your mom. Say, hey, mom, how many guys you dated?

What did they look like? And then look at your dad and be like, hmm, why does he have blonde hair and blue hairs? And I have different features. But that's so situational because you could look exactly like your parents. It's just an interesting theory. Obviously, it's the same thing as flat Earth.

It's not something we can know 100% for sure, but I do believe that telepathy, or what is it, telegamy? It's called telegamy. You can look it up, do your own research, and maybe it's true, maybe it's not. But a lot of these things, I think it's kind of hard to even debate about.

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, that's one of those subjective things, right? it's kind of hard to even debate about. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, that's one of those subjective things, right? Now, one of you does believe in evolution and the other one doesn't. So that's something we can debate, though. Oh, you believe that we came from monkeys? Yeah. And that dinosaurs and all this stuff exists? Yeah.

You told me last night, how many years do you think humans have been around for? I don't know, maybe 5,000, 10,000 years? We can't really debate this, though, because you think one thing. I think there's no way of proving either one. When was evolution introduced into society? Well, in the era of Charles Darwin, so around the 1800s.

No, 1959, there was zero evolution talked about in schools. Then the space race started. We're talking about in schools. The book was written in the 1800s. We're just talking about general. No one 100 years ago thought we came from monkeys charles darwin was one person and he was known for being a nutcase now if you look at

what it was actually introduced into society 1959 during the space race obviously if you want people to be on board with the space race then you want to take religion out of things and this is also when people started having premarital sex and drugs started coming in where do you believe humans came from well if you look at nature it's very common a lot of patterns are very common so there's probably a common creator so humans probably came from whether it's you believe it's god or something it's kind of a weird question to answer but i don't believe that we started off as this microscopic thing and then we grew into a tadpole and then we were in the ocean and then we were a shark and then we became a monkey

and then dinosaurs somebody someone someone could argue that's more logical than that being a so-called creator if you if you if you have a logical because it it makes more sense than being a creator in my opinion i don't i don't believe there's a big bang i don't believe that we're traveling thousands of miles through space that's just something that just doesn't make sense to me i think humans have been around yeah for five ten thousand years interesting what about the ancient civilizations that they teach about that's that's fine they're like egypt five thousand years maybe when jesus was born you can go back and you can see coins made then all that stuff and again you can look at fossils and all that stuff but is

that from 10 million years ago 70 million years ago 100 oh yeah this fossil was from 60.25 million years ago think about it how can you actually know that exists and the first dinosaur ever sold an auction was sold for a million dollars. It's probably one of those things just started as profit just like anything else that I'm arguing. Do you believe dinosaurs existed? I believe giants existed. They talk about that within the Bible as well.

Those bones that you find. I was saying like giant humans. Oh yeah. 100%. I also believe humans used to live to 900 plus years old. That's a hot take. I mean, it's not really.

I mean, Noah in the Bible. They talk about it in the Bible. Noah lived to be 900 plus years old. And they say life expectancy is going up, but it's actually going down. You can go to obituaries. Again, I post this on Twitter. You can go on Google right now, go into obituaries. Again, I post this on Twitter. You can go on Google right now, go into obituaries. Again, I don't like to use Google as a source, but go into obituaries from London in the 1500s and see people that live to 200, 300 years old.

Now, today, no one's going to do that because of all the industrial toxins and the 5G and just terrible world as far as health wise but if you lived in a society with none of that stuff existing and you ate completely healthy humans could probably live to a couple hundred years old maybe 500 plus thousand plus whatever it is just like animals in the ocean with no toxicity live to the greenland shark 500 years old apparently whether they can measure that or not but yeah i believe that life expectancy is going down yeah now there's microplastic in the ocean which you don't believe in right microplastics no i don't believe that's the thing i going down. Yeah, now there's microplastics in the ocean, which you don't believe in, right? Microplastics. No, I don't believe that's a thing.

I think it is. What do you think? Microplastics? Like plastic in the ocean? Like plastic water bottles? Well, yeah, obviously plastic in the ocean. Yeah, but I believe microplastics are a thing. I just feel that drinking from a plastic bottle isn't a... Okay, so what is water?

That's fucking crazy. Let's talk science. What's water? H2O. No, it's a solvent. So what does a solvent do? It leaches. And what would plastic sitting in a bottle do over time?

It would leach. I agree. No, no, I agree. Don't get me wrong, but I feel like the effects of drinking the microplastics or whatever. So you don't feel like drinking plastic is in any what way every single day for let's just say your whole entire life, 50 years, 60 years is going to be harmful to you in any what way not particularly no but it's the same it's the same argument if

you're saying that humans same thing with a thousand years or vaccines it's personal yeah i mean i can't change your mind on that same thing vaccines like i would say that's unhealthy i would say plastics are unhealthy but i guess that's just opinion that's one of those things you'd have to have a health scare for it to kick in I think maybe yeah man when you're 40 or something you'll probably like your doctor will tell you have like gallbladder cancer and you'll like call me up and be like I don't want to go to the hospital and get chemo let me I don't think that'll happen not anything's possible you guys talk about politics at all or you stay away from it don't think we ever really have I don't know enough about US politics.

I'm not a US. I just hate all groups of people, Democrats, conservatives, liberals. They're all just idiots. Right wing? Yeah, I'm right wing. I love Trump. That's all I really like. I don't like really any other Republicans.

I like Trump. For him to win the election, I think some things are going to have to happen. But yeah, Trump's a beast. That's all I know. We'll end off with how we ended yours, Gavin. Arm gets chopped off. What are you guys doing? Probably going to a hospital and getting my arm stitched up or reattached, if that's a logical option.

Probably the worst thing you could do. Of course, Gavin. What would you do? I'll douse it in alcohol, kill all the bacteria that's there to make the wound better. Sterilize the wound, yeah. Generally. Again, let me just come back to the idea of is bacteria bad for you.

That bacteria is what's going to be rebuilding your body. It's an argument of science against what you believe. What you're believing in is not science. What you're believing in is medical industry. So what would you do if the arm gets chopped off? I would put butter, honey and raw meat on it. So you would take a steak

and you would strap it to your chopped off arm. Yeah. Okay. I mean that's the best way to heal it. How would putting alcohol on it and them giving you a bunch of

drugs heal it? How would putting raw meat it and then giving you a bunch of drugs heal it? How would putting raw meat on it heal it? Well, raw meat's natural. It's just like ingesting anything and using stuff in your hair and all this. I would never, if you can't eat it, don't put it on your body. So that's all I would do. Butter, honey, they have a bunch of enzymes and bacteria to rebuild the skin. And I've seen it happen with other people, and that's basically what I would do.

So, Harry, would you say you are pro-Western medicine? Yes, I'd say generally medicine is a positive thing. Okay. I think medicine is what's killing everyone, and it's all for profit. There's nothing more profitable than telling people that you need to take a pill to cure something that doesn't exist. And that's how I believe these companies are making billions of dollars. So if you, joking as I am, if you caught a terrible disease, let's say you caught, I don't know.

Well, you don't believe it exists, but let's say you become very, very unwell. I would do exactly what I'm doing now and go even harder with the diet. So you would fix it holistically. Rather, you would take a pill for it. Okay, so let's say I have cancer. Say somehow a doctor figured out I had cancer. And I go in and they say, okay, you need to do chemo.

What is chemo? Do you know what chemo does? It kills cells. It kills cancer cells. But it also kills every other cell around it. So again, this goes back to the argument, cancer is not a bad thing. It is a soap to clip your body. What is cancer in the medical sense,

if you want to talk medical? An inability to discard dead cells. When you can no longer discard those dead cells, they accumulate into a tumor, and you get disease, and you die if it gets too much. If I had cancer, I would allow my body to discard the cells, eat the best foods possible and cure myself

just like 300 plus other people did before this man created the diet and that I follow. And I have a friend in real life that cured himself of cancer. Those 300 plus people as well, I'm not saying that, but what about the millions of people that have also been cured of cancer with chemotherapy? Maybe they didn't have it that bad to begin with.

Everyone has cancer inside them right now. Cancer cells is in everyone. So maybe the doctor just fearing them, making them, trying to get them to do chemo, telling them they have cancer, even though they feel fine, they go and they do the chemo and then they come out and they're like, yep, you're good now. Hey, they never even had it bad to begin with. Going to a medical institute and doing chemo is the worst possible thing you can do if you have cancer i mean i know multiple people that have cured themselves from the diet all with 100 success rate what if they didn't have cancer because because you gave that's what the doctor's making

and they felt terrible and they could barely walk and they were looking for alan could barely eat so let's we'll finish on this so your point point is, if you have cancer, you feel terrible, you're in a really bad way, the solution is to drink raw milk, eat raw meat, lather yourself in butter, et cetera, et cetera. 100%. Cool. If you just eat healthy,

you will no longer accumulate dead cells and you will be fine. It's 100% success rate. 100% success rate. Well, I would love, this is actually, I mean, this is why I want to do someday. I want to open up my own village and my own clinics. And to be honest, I don't even want to talk about this on air because who knows?

I hope this doesn't go viral. You understand how profitable the cancer institutes are and all these medical institutes. If I did even start a clinic and actually was curing people and made it public, then I don't know. You know, the guy that I follow the diet from was killed. He fell off his balcony, which just doesn't happen. Who falls to their balcony and dies? They broke into his house, vaccinated him twice. And he's not the type of guy to lie about it. He's a very honorable guy. He was curing people for 30 years,

and he's also not like one of those, he wasn't like selling anything. He wrote in his books. He talked about countless scenarios. They tried to cut his brakes on his car. They broke into his house and vaccinated him. He finally died when he fell off his balcony. He was curing people of cancer,

and he was going against pharmaceutical companies like crazy. He was going against the government with the raw milk ban. He was going crazy. So, to be honest, yeah, I mean, I would love to do it someday, get a hundred people round up and show that I could cure every single person with cancer if they actually follow what I do. And then they do it down with the Gerson Institute, even though I don't agree with what they do. There's a Gerson Institute, I think in Mexico, they just eat a bunch of fruits and vegetables like freaks, but it is better than going into some uh bullshit chemo therapy so there already are institutes that help people more than if you were to get chemo if you take 100 people

and you had them get chemo a lot of them would die some of them sure cured which just means maybe the cancer went away and it would have went away on its own anyways and you take 100 people and you do it my way all 100 people would survive on my end i would i would love to do like some type of bet or like something would be sick i would put you should hit a mr beast but it's hard it's kind of hard it's one of those things that's hard to to do because it counts on the person too someone could just be too far gone and they just don't listen like this guy arginus that was curing people with cancer a few did slip away and died because they didn't listen they weren't eating or they said uh you know the diet. They started getting chemo and then they did die and they didn't listen. But if you follow everything completely, like I have multiple people and I have

one really good friend of mine that we met through the diet and he literally, doctor said he was going to die, had three months to live. All he did was eat raw meat, raw milk, had like three different types of bone cancer. Now he's cured completely fine. He's even more autistic than me on the diet. And yeah, I guess I would follow what I see in the world and what things around me, then trust some doctor that just like surgery, they want to always operate on you. They make money.

The doctor doesn't care about you. They want money. Now, maybe some doctors are doing it to help or they think they're helping. My sister's a doctor. She's a moron and she's vegan, but I but i gotta start drinking raw milk and she feels better so small mercies how do you feel about dentists because we know gavin's not a fan of dentists i mean i've always like a doctor i've never i've never had any any dental issue i mean i've got

veneers now admittedly i don't know how you feel about them but i mean i've always brushed my teeth my teeth i mean i've never had a cavity or anything at all. Wow. So you'd agree that dentists are bullshit? Do you even go to the dentist? I've been like, I think, yeah, a couple of times for checkups. But I mean, if you generally keep your teeth clean, you won't get cavities.

I would agree with that, yeah. I mean, I don't need to brush my teeth to keep them clean. I just don't have to eat shit foods and don't have to ruin my enamel on my teeth. If you don't have to eat shit foods and don't have to ruin my enamel and my teeth. If you don't have a lack of fat,

you cannot get a cavity. It's impossible for me to get a cavity. And I have perfect teeth and I've never got braces or anything. And I'm beautiful. Well, we'll end it there then.

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