Digital Social Hour - Frazier Kay: Navigating the Worlds of Esports, Boxing, and OnlyFans | Digital Social Hour #40

Episode Date: July 5, 2023

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they all came with loaded guns put snipers on the hill and stuff tell us to come out with our hands up there's snipers probably don't cry i've woken up to like shotguns in my face i got one on instagram the other day a dick pic yeah oh my god i was like are you serious that's great anyone's out there please don't send us dick pics All right, welcome to the Digital Social Hour. I'm your host, Sean Kelly. I'm here with my co-host, Charlie Cavalier, and our guest today, Frazier K. What's up, guys? Great to be here. Doing well, man. What brings you into town?

I've moved out to Vegas to start training boxing, actually, now. I live with my brother, Nikan, my girlfriend, Charlotte. Jarvis is in this YouTube tournament. His coach, O.S., lives out here, trains in the Mayweather gym. So this is the place we came to. We have to be. Nice. Have you met Mayweather?

Yeah. Yeah, we met Mayweather. It was a really, really, really crazy experience. Jarvis sparred him twice. Whoa. Yeah. Wow. I don't know if you know that. Yeah, we met Mayweather. It was a really, really, really crazy experience. Jarvis sparred him twice. Whoa. Yeah. Wow. I don't know if you know that.

Yeah, Jarvis sparred him. We made one video out of it, which was really cool. And then we went back the next day, and he kind of just showed up to the gym. He was like, Jarvis, I want to work with you. And we're like, all right. Jarvis, you're back in there. Did he land a hit on him? I think, no.

He landed, yeah. So Mayweather got a slight bit of respect for Jarvis, actually, because he landed a hit on him when most people don't. Like a little hit. Not like he clapped him, you know what I'm saying? But like a little touch, which was cool. It's Mayweather, man. Like, you don't touch Floyd.

Like, it's cool. That's unheard of. Yeah. But no, but, man, it's a surreal experience, you know, training in the gym. The guys there are just super cool, super down to earth. And it's really, it's the best place to be, man. I love boxing gyms now.

Hell yeah. It seems to have really picked up. I mean, there's a lot of people, you know, grabbing the gloves, getting in the ring. Absolutely. What do you want to get out of boxing? I want to get, that's a great question. First and foremost is my fitness, right? So, like, I'm 27 and i've spent a lot of my life

partying you know i lived in los angeles for five years um so the fitness aspect to it number one is just like the best thing you know every day i feel great boxing waking up working out running with all the guys the kind of team the team spirit that it brings to when you're all like you know you can go keep running i love that and then obviously down the line a boxing fight i've seen kind of like the glory you know your moment like jarvis has had before he's had two now and and you know he he says he's like i can't wait for you guys to have your moment as well and uh you know it's just kind of like muhammad ali said you know you're all working towards like the uh that kind of like end goal Which I guess hopefully is raising your hand up in that ring and celebrating a victory

That would be that would be really cool Before boxing you were doing a lot of fortnight content. Yeah. Why do you think fortnight fell off? Oh, mate Um, I don't think fortnight epic games is ready because they banned Jarvis But I don't think they were ready for the skill gap Oh, because they banned Jarvis, actually. No, I'm just joking. But I don't think they were ready for the skill gap. You know what I'm saying? So when the game first came out, everyone was kind of on the same level. Then before you knew it, you would go into a game and you don't go past the first 50 people.

You just get wrecked. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So they also changed the game. They kept changing it. Every season, it was like a different whole get you know i'm saying so it's sustainable for a certain amount of time you know not everyone's going to stay interested and and obviously it's entertainment not everything lasts forever you know i had i think a really good run it did yeah i don't think there has been a game as big as fortnight

since fortnight maybe i'm mistaken maybe there's like a every 10 year old type type game was call of duty as big or no yeah but that's that's all that's been there you know i'm saying like cod's been there fortnite came out it was like right it went straight to the top you got drake streaming it you've got all those guys on the game which you really don't see nowadays too much just trying to think i'm not misspeaking but yeah no yeah i haven't really seen it since that ninja drake stream yeah i know they've got some really cool stuff on fortnite now they they made it kind of like roblox where you can literally create your own game in fortnite so you can you can kind of make like call of duty in fortnite and like campaign missions in fortnite wow yeah like

it's opened the creativity to a whole nother level um it's kind of like uh unreal editor yeah game yeah like epic games owns unreal editors so i i do see longevity in it now especially for the the core fan base it has interesting and what about esports as a whole because a lot of these clans aren't actually profitable yeah may esports that's a scary one i i obviously you know i i love esports i really hope it has all the success in the world right right? But I do have seen, obviously, organizations struggling, all of them. A lot of them are really, really struggling.

I think the model, from what I've seen on tweets, right, the model of like invest the money in, spend ridiculous amount of money there and just kind of like keep funneling into this black hole has kind of been like how things operate. Can't be sustainable can't work anymore especially as not many investors want to put money in so uh the the model kind of has to change um it's that's a big question man it's tough and obviously there's there's you know

certain teams have certainly a different different um situation scenarios going on but i do wish the best for them all, seriously. Like I really do hope all esports teams succeed. Yeah, I feel like if you're not winning the championships, the big prizes, it's hard to make money. Yeah, oh, exactly. And even when the prize money comes in, the prize money is like nothing

in comparison to what it costs to run these teams. Like the pros are on like crazy salaries, which they deserve, right? But then at the same time, like how does the the company for example like 100 thieves phase stay profitable you know it's like tough very good yeah you know it's interesting for me because the most industries that have some sort of you know economic gap in that situation it's the manufacturers that aren't picking up the

bill to put out a lot of the money for the winnings right in this situation you know the company that made fortnite made call of duty isn't putting up the dollars for these players to play professionally yeah what do video game manufacturers need to do to support the esports industry better very good yeah so i think what epic games did at the start of fortnite you know when it was really big with the fortnite creator code was a good step in the right direction you know kind of empowering their creators by sharing revenue um you know that that can definitely help if you have obviously like a following people willing to like support your creator code and stuff yeah um and and kind of exploring more ways that they could they could do that it's a very it's a tough one because obviously pros like in an organization it's kind of like a football team you know they're cycled in and out they're signed in and out so for a company as big as epic games

to worry about just like an individual person is again like uh it's kind of like a micro thing on like they're thinking macro i yeah the support credit code was a really good step in the right direction i know call of duty have it now i don't know if everybody has access to that but you know kind of all games like rocket league kind of any way for to share revenue on skins i think in game for their pros is is very good yeah how much were people making off those creator codes yeah i mean i heard that there was someone making i mean people were making houses a day easily what clearing a day yeah like 250 000 a day? Yeah, like $250,000 a day easy. Wow. There was a period, I think it was like 2019, 2020.

Anybody that was in Fortnite at this time will know they re-released the soccer skin, like the most popular skin in the game. And at the same time, they sent an email to all their creators saying, you're going to get like 4x more revenue for the next two, three weeks, whatever it was. So everyone went extremely hard. And there was a guy, I don't know if he said what he made, but like they were making like $250,000, $500,000 a day. Stop this skin coat thing, man. So, you know, that's insane.

That's actually nuts. Yeah. I didn't know it was like that because they were getting half the revenue, right? No, I think it was 5%. Oh, were getting half the revenue right uh no i think it was five percent oh only five percent yeah oh so think about wow yeah and then they took it up to i think to 20 maybe to check those numbers but i know they increased it a bit for a short period of time which like shut up everyone's revenue though so is fortnite the biggest video game by far in terms of value has it surpassed call of duty i mean i don't in revenue yeah in revenue definitely could have i know like minecraft when you look at like a trend on on google google trends for

example like popularity minecraft is just consistently always going like that you've got fortnite which is like this roller coaster you got call of duty which is like this and stuff so it really does depend um yeah it's a tough one yeah minecraft's been around man i thought it would fall off by now mate same but you have to look at like minecraft is like you know when we were kids we were playing with legos right we were building physical lego blocks but nowadays that's just not a thing kids build their lego blocks in minecraft in the game yeah i didn't even think about the same creative approach when you're a young kid like you know those those sort of fundamental skills that you you do get in a way

from playing the game right and even going further back i'm 33 i remember playing with pixelated 8-bit 16-bit games you know original game boy like seeing the blocks in minecraft it does something that i think to trigger the nostalgia in us for what we've seen previously yeah absolutely i didn't think about that that's cool yeah i played game boy 2 i'm not that young really yeah how old are you i'm 26 oh no i see i'm 27 yeah i didn't have the first one with the batteries but i had the one after yeah i did advance yeah yeah yeah the flip up one so you had the game boy you didn't have the game boy color not the color i never had that i had the game i'm 33 so i had the game boy yeah my brothers had that one that's sick that's like no i'm jealous that they're really man they're worth a lot of money

nowadays i've heard you have those original games. They're worth a lot of money nowadays. I've heard. If you have those original skilled games, yeah, they're worth something. So you were an integral part of FaZe Clan, obviously. Yeah. You were there for 10 years. Yeah, almost 10 years, yeah.

Yeah, you got the ins and outs of the company. Yeah. Why do you think they're struggling so hard right now? Yeah, man. You know, it's a sad story. I love FaZe. I literally have it tattooed on my body all the guys in there i love man and i truly hope truly to my heart the bottom of my core that it can succeed but no i think it's

unfair to pinpoint it on like one specific thing this is the reason why it's failing but you know it's a combination of a lot of stuff um poor leadership definitely is a main cause of it um people not kind of understanding the culture right like you've got you've got people running the company that don't think that content is the utmost priority when like what is like you know i actually made a video about this but like you know mr beast even kind of echoed what i'm saying right now on twitter when the whole phase drama was going on a few months ago of tico and phase rain um but but you know they you've got these these guys in there that don't see posting like they they look at tick tock and they're like that's for 12 year

olds it's like no that's that's the most important thing like you need to be posting but you need to be creatively thinking of insane tick tocks because that is your brand your brand is content your your sponsorship revenue comes from views you know it's like like you need like content is the number one thing when i was there obviously i was heading up their content on face plan it was going really well um we were doing that tick tocks as well going great um and i know they've they've had other people step in afterwards to try and to try and you know keep that to keep that up but you know it's again it's a really hard like you can't just pinpoint it on one thing faye's reign has spoken on it really well um he said a

lot of good things and he's obviously a founder right he's been there for a long time but but yeah just not not focusing on content these guys also take like you know they see it as you know they're i'm like i swear like i'm the you know i'm saying like i'm the top dog i deserve 10 million dollars a year whatever it is just throwing a number out there it's not a real number but you know you've got these guys these corporate guys sucking up money and they just don't see the value in spending money in the right places like you know they would rather take a salary versus spending a million dollars on some content what you can do with a million dollars on content is mind-blowing

mr beast already proved this exactly yeah look what he look at what he he's proven um so you know again i think that's come down to leadership as well so it's just it's a big mixture of things i i do hope that the guys there that are still working on trying to save the brand can kind of take it back and and propel it back to where it deserves to be you know it's definitely a tough one and obviously after you know jar aren't a part of it, we were the face of the brand for years, right? So it's literally the face has just got... Yeah, you were driving the most views of the whole clan, right?

Yeah, absolutely. And then the faces just get removed. They put new faces on, doesn't work. Maybe it works with some. It's a tough one, man. It's hard to like pinpoint it on one thing but so if you were running the show what would be the first thing that you do tomorrow um but yes so many people i mean do you want to name the people that you

want to fire i don't know if i legally should um but yeah no definitely clear out a lot of people and then just realign the focus to to content like there needs to be really good content being posted every day like look at what mr beast achieves through his tiktok brand through his youtube brand which is you know it's still him but it's like different content um realign the focuses you know i i see the videos they post i'm like what are you doing yeah but it's just it's what it is man you know i i went back to the team um a year ago and i was like yo guys like i sat them all down i was like i really want to help you i really want to you know why is what is this tick tock here like who

made this like who's responsible for this because it's horrible and and these guys kind of said to me like yo frazier so you know we've been um we've been number one in this race for so long and this is kind of that like you know boomer not understanding thing coming out of these guys these old dudes sitting around a table with me and my brother like yeah frazier you know we've been in first place for so long what we're gonna have to do is kind of take a step back and come the racetrack you know we want to be the racetrack everyone's racing on i was like what what does that even mean like i'm not some investor you're trying to get money from like bro i'm just trying to come and make content like you're selling me like some weird thing right here i don't get what you're saying and i think they're just they're clueless unfortunately um some of them

not all of them there are some really good people in face and some really good friends on the corporate side as well obviously the talent i love but but yeah these guys just don't know what's going on man but you got you got norton and tico in there which i know uh advocates for the right thing and i do hope can pull some good strings and make make stuff happen so are their views down a lot basically from when you were content oh yeah oh yeah yeah no it's like day and night like um phase and i though went hand in hand right like so when i was in phase i also had more views so did phase and now for a period mine were definitely down phases were down phases stay down i i do shorts and stuff now which yeah you know my views are more than they've ever been which is

really really cool um but yeah no since we've left the the views obviously plummeted like absolutely and wow anybody can see that like you can let you just go and look yeah yeah it's i want to dive into your shorts because you're getting like you said more views than ever how do you come up with these videos ideas you're on my feed like every day oh really yeah yeah no um i mean yeah years of doing this uh first of all you know just like kind of being in that like constant creative mind like i i'll be somewhere i'm like that's a short you know i'm saying like that's a short like you know what I'm saying? Like that's a short, like constantly being in that mindset of like trying to think of something is always there. Living with my team, like I literally live with Jarvis Nikan,

my writer, editor, everybody like that. So we're always constantly like just in that creative mindset as well as collectively coming together like once a week and really, really like squeezing our brains, trying to think of stuff. And nowadays you really, really like squeezing our brains, trying to think of stuff. And nowadays you do have stuff like chat GBT, which is really cool because you could, like, I just made this viral video pouring slime over my head and I want to think of something else

viral I can pour over my head. Don't get me wrong. We can sit there and think of stuff easily, but I can get it in like five seconds. I saw that slime on actually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So it's cool. Yeah. I, uh, chat GBT does help think of like variations of a viral idea, but I do like using data to get viral ideas to like YouTube internet nowadays. There's tons of data. Yeah. Um, there's, there's millions of programs and third party apps out there.

You can pay some money for, and it can kind of scrape YouTube. What's the top performing videos for this month. And like, just go off like a data perspective like if you really can't take an idea go and look at what's doing well and kind of like remix it make your own version of it and see if it works you know so you're a numbers guy yeah oh yeah we loved it yeah like youtube is great for analytics like the creator studio and what youtube offer you in the in the back end is is insane and um you can work with you know I've hired some consultants before like Daryl Eaves I've had a few individual consultancies with him

he's Mr beasts or was is Mr B strategist so wow even being on the phone with him for like a few hours I'm like oh like didn't know that and he just dropped like 10 ideas you know it's really really cool um there he's a guy that's responsible for thinking up crazy ideas that we've all watched i probably don't want to say that like what the ideas are what the videos were but he thought of a lot of really viral ideas wow sick sick guy what is your biggest worry about being a content creator and having your face and your voice so out there publicly number one is safety um safety for sure safety you know my like physically like my addresses my yeah you know stuff like that I I've obviously had to deal with my whole life like Jarvis one time got hacked um

his YouTube got hacked like money stuff got hacked you know what i'm saying so like that that first of all you know you've seen um you've seen you know it's really sad stories about like pmb rock right yeah he posts a story up and somebody that i think wants something he has doesn't like him i shot him it wasn't even him though it's his girl right yeah right something like that yeah like it's crazy so like you know after that happened i was like whoa like job it's like should we just not post stories when we're here because we used to just oh i'm here right now yeah yeah that's like wait a sec like is this dangerous seriously yeah it's crazy to think about and especially in america right because i'm from london where there isn't you know people don't carry weapons like that out here it's it's a lot different so say safety for me is something i i always think about i don't walk around with security and stuff

we do have a very secure house and everything yeah have you been swatted yet oh yeah yeah so swatting is a thing that i do i used to live with rice gum banks for like three four five years so that was at their peak um so swatting became such a normal thing to me that uh i i was i was working with rice gum a lot like filming his videos and everything yeah and uh i'll never forget it was so normal to us that we're just in his room and there's police searching his room and they're like you know we've been here a million times we're just doing the swap we're going we have to check the rooms by law i'm like all right just we'll just move here and we're just filming it that's how normal it was oh my god it's crazy because we used to live in this glass

house sometimes they would come with a helicopter and light it up with like this huge bright white light put snipers on the hill and stuff tell us to come out with our hands up there's snipers bro we've done i've woken up to like shotguns in my face yo it's great oh yeah that's obviously again goes back to the safety thing it's like geez like you know you've seen the stories of people online dying yeah getting swatted like and people that do it going to jail rightfully so yeah can we hear the shotgun in the face story yeah uh what i do i could send you a video if you want to play on the screen afterwards but I was with Alyssa, Banks

a couple of my friends from the UK we were living in the Clout House at the time and it was just a normal swatting but it was just a swatting we woke up in the morning, I think it was a pretty severe one because they all came with loaded guns

so I was woken up by the group chat like yo everybody needs to come down in the morning i think it was a pretty severe one because they all came with loaded guns so uh i was woken up by the group chat like yo everybody needs to come down to the garage with your hands up i'm like yeah i was kind of hung over as well i was like am i tripping so i i like opened the garage door kind of forget the hands up thing and this guy's like i'm like oh my god yeah put my hands up these guys like pat me all down make sure i'm good the the calls that the the the kids would call the swats in four were like the crazy things you know this guy's a hostage in his house this guy has 10 million guns he's got a new cup there so they're obviously thinking the worst right they're doing their jobs as they should be doing

yeah they should be should be doing that um but you know things can happen and what what if i came out the door and dropped my hand accidentally this guy's gonna blow my head off or something crazy but yeah no it's crazy that's just one of many stories you know we've we've had like i said snipers on on the hillside before and crazy crazy you literally saw their laser on your body not on our bodies but they were they're on the ground you can see the lasers for sure that's insane that's crazy did they catch the kids that swatted you guys it's a good question i don't know i really don't know i the thing is i think nowadays a lot of these these kids can be really good obviously at being anonymous and everything you know you've got i don't know much about but like vpn whatever right so um i know there's like public news stories of of kids getting, but I don't know if they

specifically got the ones that did it to us. Yeah. Which, yeah, that's crazy. What about sim hacking? Have you been sim hacked? No. Yeah. No, that was, I prevent that, hopefully. I don't know. But no, I haven't been sim hacked. No, um but yeah no i i haven't been sim hacked uh jarvis jarvis recently had some weird hack where they like it was like a virus on his computer and that like uh he had he had like a weird crypto stream put on his youtube which is a scam um like you know like uh buy bitcoin here something like that trainer yeah yeah literally yeah uh but jarvis has been hacked really badly i fortunately enough haven't been um but i think i've been around for a while you know i do take security measures you know like cyber security measures i have a couple friends that kind of

did cyber security ish type things that yeah have helped me set up stuff for it but i did the same thing i literally hired someone like just to be safe exactly yeah it's so scary especially because i mean you i know you do crypto and everything so i'll be tripping i mean you hear the horror stories of crypto my wallet got drained oh my god lost all my crypto you signed something accidentally or whatever they're doing like yeah yeah you got like keep that in a bank nowadays shortly right like put your i don't like banks or no i mean like a safety safe like a hard wallet yeah ledgers yeah they have like basically a cold wallet yeah yeah yeah speaking of crypto do you see it making a comeback i'm not gonna lie since my whole crypto situation i you know i kind of definitely took a

huge step back you know i don't i'm not involved in crypto like that anymore i'm not like i really was but i mean yeah so like i used to have a bit of crypto obviously i i gave it all to the to the people that had lost stuff yeah i was involved right so i gave all my crypto basically away um so you know i plus everything all the drama like i just don't have an interest you know yeah like a bad taste in your mouth yeah exactly you know i plus everything all the drama like i just don't have an interest you know yeah like a bad taste in your mouth yeah exactly you know like i was speaking to you i was like i i still do like the technology and bitcoin the technology and ethereum i think it's really cool especially with the way generally the world could be going you know this bank collapsed the other

day whatever's going on so so i I like the technology what it can achieve in the future um but but yeah generally I I don't I don't stay in crypto I kind of kept whatever I had then I've just held that and that's that's really make sense yeah do you still talk to a sand pepper at all or not no I hate that no bro I don't like Sam Pepper. You know, like, nobody likes him, unfortunately. And it is a sad thing because he doesn't have any friends. We were his, you know, he had a great group of real friends out here that he truly betrayed. And it's sad because he doesn't have any friends, man.

Like, I think about that sometimes. That's crazy. But no, we don't talk to Sam. Jarvis was in dubai once and sam was happened to be in the same hotel as jarvis i wasn't in dubai and he goes up to jarvis and he was like yo what's up buddy what's up man and jarvis looking i'm like bro you tripping like are you actually tripping and he was with his girlfriend hannah um who i still love like she's a great girl and um jarvis said he could see how girlfriend hannah um who i still love like she's a great girl

and um jarvis said he could see how upset hannah was and that made that made me upset because you know someone else get in in the crossfire of just our uh our beef whatever whatever that is just it sucks you know the jarvis for hannah but yeah no that that guy no never never, never have, never, I have no intention of ever speaking to him ever again. It's not worth losing good friends over money. No, no, no, it's definitely not. And at the end of the day, like, what, like, what, all we have is our family and friends, right? Like, that's why I'm very big on family, you know?

So, like, when I go home, like, and I sit down, I'm like, wow, this is really all you need. You know, imagine not having this. Imagine having millions of dollars, but not this. No, thank you. sit down, I'm like, wow, this is really all you need. Imagine not having this. Imagine having millions of dollars but not this. No, thank you. You know what I'm saying? Me personally, I would never want that. So you'd rather have good friends and family and be broke than to have millions but be alone?

Any day of the day. Any day. Any day. I would rather work a 9-to-5 normal job, leave my job and go meet up with my good best friends, go home to my mom and dad, you know, my family, see my brother, see my girlfriend. I couldn't imagine living a life where you just don't have like that, you know, that core group of people.

I agree. I've lived a lonely life like in college when I was focused on the business. Absolutely. And I was depressed, to be honest. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? I've been in your shoes. I've been, you know, that's kind of why i feel like i i can say that because you know when i was when i moved to

america as well i was like you know oh let's work let's work let's work go home no no no all that all that stuff and um you know as i got older i definitely realized that you know this isn't what this isn't what you need and obviously after everything that happened to me spent a year at home and i was like wow like i needed this i needed to just be grounded again yeah it's really good so if you could fight anyone in the world who would it be in a boxing match in a boxing match oh wow it's his first fight too yeah i mean oh wait who would i who would i you got to start off on a win yeah exactly you exactly. You can't start off 0-1. I mean, yeah, I was meant to fight this guy called King Kenny. I was injured.

Had a lot of stuff going on, obviously, back then. I'd definitely like to beat him. You know, I definitely can beat him. Swarms would be a cool fight. He's about to fight Deji this weekend. Yeah, that would be another cool fight if you guys don't know who that is. Do you think you could beat Deji right now? Right now? Don't know.

Because he's like, what, one in four or something? Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I know he trains up. Let's see how he goes this weekend. Obviously, anybody I go in the ring with, I'm going to beat, right? That's my mentality. I'm going to win.

But I'm not going to lie to myself and pretend my boxing skills are on a level that they're not what i'm saying yeah uh i'm training really hard my coach otis um does say you just gotta take your time stay relaxed my relaxation is gonna come from within i'm a very can be tight i can be up like that and i'm like this so just staying loose you got like what do they say you got b water sting like a butterfly whatever they're trying out Bruce Lee So so why can all of that but uh, but yeah man, no that would have you boxed Charlie I have in high school in college not anywhere at the level that you know the YouTube a lot of YouTube stars are doing it Yeah, but I'm fascinated with it

Right cuz like when I was doing it everyone was nuts about the ufc and now it seems to be a slowly tipping of the scales back to boxing being the heavy promotion i mean you're seeing connor wants to box yeah nate diaz is about to box and i think everybody finally realized you're going to make a lot more money in boxing than ufc fighting and a lot of the ufc's valuation comes from the labor laws that they're able to put on their fighters. And that's where they get that. I think they got like a two or $3 billion valuation recently as UFC. And then you've got John Jones, right? Potentially the greatest fighter in the history of mankind making like 300 K a year, which is great money. But I read at one point during the height of his nonsense when he first won the belt he was making less than his brother who was like a backup defensive lineman for the new england

patriots wow so i want to see the ufc fighters get paid properly and until that happens i love seeing boxing take off more and more absolutely absolutely yeah i mean i know jake paul's a big advocate for for you know uf fighter pay. And I definitely agree. UFC fighter pay should be way higher than that. I didn't know it was that. Don't get 300 grams, a lot of money, but that's crazy. Yeah. Really?

Why are the boxing payouts so much higher? Well, they're all, so they're all negotiated independently. Whereas like you've got, you know, like Don King promotions or I think Oscar De La Hoya is his golden boy promotions and stuff like that. So every time a major boxing match goes down, right, two parties come to the table and they divvy up the pie, right? You've got the pay-per-view money coming in. You've got the ticket from, you know, Wembley or wherever you're going to have it.

And all that stuff is divided amongst everybody. In the UFC, the UFC owns the arena. The UFC owns the pay-per-view. The UFC owns the, you know owns all the rights to promote anything. If you want to sell merchandise, the UFC owns that. Wow. Right? So they control everything.

They've got a 360 deal. They've got a 360 deal. So boxing, it's always like you show up. If you've got a good negotiator, you're going to get yourself a piece of the pie. And the UFC, if you want a chance, you're going to take what we we give you and if you don't like it, there's Bellator interesting Wow I had no idea was that in a reason do UFC fighters get a percent of the PPV? I think they have to negotiate it. I believe that most do not I believe the top tier You know your your Cormier's your McGregor's your John Jones now

They do I'm not even sure that like you know your nate and nick diaz's of the world get a share of the pay-per-view i would have to look into it i think they pre-negotiated ahead of time wow but i know a lot's been happening with the ufc and pay so it's constantly changing right now but if they don't pick it up they're gonna i mean they literally just lost conor mcgregor to boxing he switched over i mean pretty much he i mean he's fought a couple of times since he made the switch but since he fought mayweather like he hasn't been the same ufc fighter absolutely his 100 focus has never been on ufc since he got that boxing money yeah he felt that payday yeah he got that bag yeah that's crazy i mean it's not how big boxing is getting like you can literally go on

google trends and see like yeah i saw that it's like the biggest it's ever been ever yeah you can make millions off it yep yeah absolutely that's correct you got jake paul what did he make like 30 million or something yeah from that from that tommy fury fight i think that's what just jake paul made holy crap and i think the boxers owe a lot to the content creators right now the a lot of the the youtube stars that are getting into it because they brought the mainstream back to boxing yeah right these fights were already going on right i went to the wilder fury fight all that stuff but you know like seeing alex wasabi win that youtube tournament that happened a couple years ago or like you know seeing logan and jake get in fights with all these famous people that's what's making all these people who have been addicted to social media

interested in boxing again so absolutely i think boxing owes a lot to the content creators that are bringing the mainstream back to boxing. Yeah, no, I do. I think I did see Mike Tyson talk about that as well, which is really cool. It's super inspiring actually on that topic. Like there's a, there's a guy that in London, like a fan of Jarvis and I used to make videos and Jarvis inspired this kid to start boxing and now he's fighting for like a championship he's

like 13 years old what you know what i'm saying like so all these guys that are fans of us are actually like getting into healthy sport boxing you know very masculine good thing i believe for for someone's life you know so it's super cool super inspiring actually you guys can get your own little army going soon yeah literally boxing is it true boxers are not allowed to have sex before their fight no yeah you can't jarvis was celibate but i don't know how long exactly for but weeks wow month to a week yeah there's like there's like a time where you stop that you like peak your testosterone um and no yeah jarvis jarvis right before his last fight stopped and then afterwards obviously but you know you know what but seriously that is a that is a real thing that is a real before his last fight stopped. And then afterwards, obviously.

But you know what? But seriously, that is a real thing. That is a real thing. Yeah, I haven't spoken to my girlfriend yet about that. Oh, you might have to let her know. The talk is coming. She's chilling. The talk. Speaking of your girlfriend.

Yeah. She does do OnlyFans. Yeah, she does. She does. Were you, did you know that going into the relationship or was it like a surprise? No, I did know. So my and Charlotte's relationship,

I've known her for six years, right? We dated for three years, broke up for two years and then got back together roughly like a year-ish ago. She started doing OnlyFans right before I got back with her. But I'm all for it. I absolutely love it. I think if all these girls nowadays that weren't able to make that money before back with her um but you know i'm all for it you know i i absolutely love it i think you know if if all these girls nowadays that you know weren't able to make that money before can go online and

kind of basically do what they were doing on instagram maybe a bit more and and make an insane healthy living from it i'm all for that you know um i actually do a lot of work with charlotte and and other people as well and kind of like empowering their content uplifting them on social media kind of helping them get views and stuff that convert to OnlyFans and you know really really helping them grow their brands and everything so interesting I'm all for it I think it's honestly great you know there is there is downsides to you know the who who's looking at it right you know like what age is the person looking at it? But I know OnlyFans specifically make sure you submit an ID to go on the website. So that gives you some sort of comfortability

because you don't want to ever think you're pushing something to the wrong people. That's just... Yeah. I didn't know OnlyFans made you do that. Interesting. Yeah, yeah. No, because I remember asking Charlotte,

I was like, so wait, before we get into this, like, I don't want anybody under the age of 18 to even be able to see this. Like, that's just messed up. So no, she's like, oh, no, no, Frasier, look, you submit your ID. So no, that was really cool. Interesting.

Yeah, so I kind of basically do what I did with FaZe and everything. But now for just like individual people, me and my team help make like lots of content for these guys. And it goes really well for them. They actually enjoy it i know only fans agencies i make millions bro yeah yeah bro there's so many nowadays they make so much money right like i've been on call with these guys i'm like yo like it's insane yeah and they only need a few clients like lexi's crushing

it yep who's lexi sorry lexi pantera oh oh oh yeah yeah that's his uh best friend oh nice i've heard about that's awesome she's awesome uh she friend oh nice i've heard of her that's awesome she's awesome uh she's killing it and she's she's rerouting a lot of money back into her music career no way and it's good to just see like yeah you know people be able to fund their dreams exactly man exactly yeah that's i'm all for it i mean like if someone's willing to pay for it why not do it you know what i'm saying like someone's there gonna buy it they're not gonna buy yours they're gonna buy hers so is there a fine line for your girlfriend where you draw it and you're like i don't want you doing that type of content or is there no limit see at the start honestly it it definitely is something i i was eased into right like uh for

sure was eased into it but the more i see charlotte love doing it right i never wanna like the same way i love doing whatever i love doing like my boxing whatever like you know she really does enjoy it she loves it you know she she's a gorgeous girl she has a beautiful body and she you know they love showing it off um when it comes to limits you know i've spoken to her as well i was like so you know before i got two phones i was like so what are your limits like what are you gonna do what you're gonna not do and we kind of you know i i agreed on her comfortability level i was like all right that's that's cool because you know at the end of the day you really do have to think long term as well like am i happy with my kids seeing this in 20 years right am i happy with my grandkids seeing this you know my kid's gonna get harassed you know i'm saying like all that all that stuff that could potentially

come with it um so to be on like a good mutual term with you know whoever you're doing it with is great but no generally i'm very comfortable and you know if she wanted to do more i would support that you know it's it's at the end of the day it's her decision you know i i can either be there for it or not she can do what she wants to do you know yeah because i know some girls are doing like the the dick pic ratings and stuff oh yeah yeah no she she does that she does that what is that what is the dick pic yeah bro so the dick pics that they get these guys send their yeah they pay first of all to send it okay and then they get a rating and then she literally rates it okay yeah so like oh don't get me wrong i was i have seen her do it a few times i'm like you know what i'm saying but at the end of the day you know it's

just yeah i don't know she likes it man i guess if you're gonna get those messages anyways exactly right they get it on instagram they're gonna fill the inbox no matter what yeah i mean i've seen her instagram messages and i'm like yo jesus don't want to see that right it's yeah it's horrible but dude i got one on instagram the other day yeah i was like are you serious like right yeah it was some crazy ex-girlfriend someone i follow she sent a dick pic of him because i follow him oh my god i was like are you serious that's great anyone's out there please don't send us dick pics please that's all we ask please yeah unsolicited dick pics are not the movement no no no no no no no

not at all definitely not frazier it's been a blast, man. Thank you, likewise. Thank you guys for having me on. Yeah. Any closing thoughts, words of wisdom? All right, man. Secure your cybersecurity. Yeah. Stay secure.

Stay safe. Yes. All right. Well, there you have it, guys. Digital Soul Shower. Thanks for tuning in. See you guys next time.