Digital Social Hour - From Homelessness to Streetball Legend: Chris White on The Digital Social Hour #32

Episode Date: June 19, 2023

Hey everyone! I am beyond excited to present you with this latest Digital Social Hour podcast episode featuring the multitalented Chris White alongside myself, Sean Kelly, and Wayne Lewis! You simply cannot afford to miss out on this one. In this riveting conversation, Chris shares his journey in balancing his passion for music, entrepreneurship, and businesses. We dive into the essential life skills that schools have failed to teach, as Chris recounts his own personal experiences with unpaid taxes and overcoming obstacles. But Chris's story doesn't end there! Discover Chris's perspectives on the uniqueness of New York, living out your dreams, and how he gained traction for his YouTube channel through unapologetically authentic content. We also reflect on the world of streetball, emotional control and Chris's ambitious upcoming plans for creators and streetballers alike. Listen to this episode now as we delve into the intense world of streetball, viral one-on-one match-ups, and Chris's ability to find solutions when facing adversity. Don't let this exhilarating conversation pass you by! So what are you waiting for? Hit play and join us on this exciting journey with Chris White. Trust us, you won't regret it! Let's go! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/digitalsocialhour/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What up, what up? And our guest today, Chris White. What's good, baby? Man, how we doing? How you feeling, man? You dripped out. Yeah, I'm all right, man. I like it.

Man, getting here on some Flyboy shit. I see you. Oh, man. I mean, I figured, you know, we're going to pop outside. Oh, yeah. Right, right, right. What you been up to, man? Grinding. I'm doing a lot, man. I mean, I figured, you know, we're going to pop outside. Oh, yeah. Right, right. What you been up to, man? Grinding.

I'm doing a lot, man. I'm doing a lot. I'm shuffling a crazy life, man, that I never really imagined I'd be living. I'll tell you that much. I feel that. Between entrepreneurial stuff, YouTube. One of my passions is music. You still doing the music?

I mean, always. Okay. But it's like, the way music works, if you ask me, you can't just do it. You got to do it and do it properly. Right, right. Exactly. You got to be like everybody else. A SoundCloud.

You know, be on SoundCloud. Be a SoundCloud rapper. You know what I'm saying? SoundCloud founded a lot of rappers that we have today. Yes. Yes, indeed. No shade to the SoundCloud rappers. SoundCloud but there's there's kind of like a

there's kind of like a dip though in how it's kind of oversaturated now though that's what I mean so like no disrespect to anybody who came up like that I saw one of your music videos and all the comments were like yo he can actually rap people were surprised

they'd be shook they'd be like what like what like what wait hold on first their baby's on the court now you got bars right you know

so if they're not hating then they understand well a lot of hoopers try to get into rap but it doesn't really work out right cause most of them just think

I mean most people think a lot of people think they can rap but rapping is actually an art I feel like music is an evolution and most people who are hoopers can't take the time. Either don't or can't take the time to put the pain in, you know, the 10,000 hours to become an actual artist and musician. Right.

You know what I mean? Because it's all an evolution, right? When you start, you're ass. Oh, can i curse on this yeah okay cool uh it's gotta make sure yeah i look pretty professional i want to be that guy yeah uh but yeah you know you start your ass and then by the time you put in 10 000 hours you're fired right absolutely but that applies with everything you do right any basketball too so it should be easy for him because the same work ethic goes into that we're going to put it in the easy for them because the same work ethic goes into that. We're going to put it in the studio.

But that's the thing. I imagine, you know, think about how many basketball players and how much time they have to actually do that. Yeah, because they're full-time ball. Yeah. It's like impossible. So what percentage of your time is basketball and music? Well, actually, basketball and YouTube has taken a lot of it because I have businesses, too. So I have a credit repair agency.

Okay. That's good money. Yeah, I got a car rental situation going on. And then I'm opening up a semi-truck business. Oh, nice. Yeah, with some pretty good... And you rented all that out in Florida, right? Yeah, well, Florida and then New York.

So some of the credit repair agency is in New York. Yeah, that's good money, man. I used to partner with one and send them clients. It's solid money. I mean, yeah, it's like wildfire, though. Because once you have one person, you know, and then the credit gets cleaned, and then everybody else is like, yo. Yeah, we actually bought one credit repair company during the pandemic.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, Cure Credit. So, yeah, we actually bought it during the pandemic. So I definitely know it's great business to be in. You know? Everybody need their credit fixed. Right. For sure.

I mean, and I just appreciate, you know, America for giving us the law and the opportunity to be able to handle our business if we need to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a second chance. I mean, it's actually a fourth and fifth chance. I can get your credit clean as much time and fifth chance. Right. How many young people you know that ruin their credit immediately?

I feel like everybody does that. Almost everyone. I had 35 things on my credit when I first started life. I didn't even know what a credit was when I was 18. No one teaches you. And that's the thing I don't like either. Because think about it. Think about how much time that kids and everybody

spends in school. Yeah. You're not teaching them any tools of life. At all. They don't teach credit. They don't teach tax. I got hit with a tax bill.

I'm like, what is this? They don't teach money. They don't really, they teach us history. True story. True story. I had, when I was 19 years old.

A false history. False history. I was going to say that, but I didn't know if I should. A false history. So true story though, when I was 19 years old. A false history. False history. I was going to say that, but I didn't know if I should. A false history. So true story, though. I was 19 years old.

I made probably like $60,000 as a salesperson in this office on 42nd and 5th Avenue in Times Square selling security training. Okay. I ran out of 60 racks in like three months. Wow. Making bank. Just selling security training. 60 racks in like three months. I'm just making bank. Just selling security training. And true story, I never paid those taxes. And then I got over the limitation of years.

I never had to take it. Wait, I don't know if I should be saying that. In New York, New York comes down. I mean, yeah, whatever. It's over the 12 years, so whatever. But New York comes down. Hey. I mean, yeah, whatever. It's over the 12 years, so whatever. But New York comes down on you hard, though. New York comes down on you hard, though, when you don't pay taxes, right? That's Cali.

I really don't know. I'll be honest. I don't know. California is tough. New York has the city tax. I'm not a fan of that. Well, they have a state. New York has a state, city, and federal.

Yeah. And California has state and federal. Vegas only has federal taxes. State, city, and federal. in california has state and federal vegas only has federal taxes state city and federal think about how that sounds yeah that's why they take so because you live in a city in a state yeah you gotta pay another tax right right right if not move your ass out to the country right and then you got the property taxes right and then they still haven't fixed their rat problem oh my god how should they fix that, though? Is it even fixable? Man, I see so many successful traps online.

I'm just like, why don't you guys get one of these guys who create these successful traps and make a big one and just get them in there? I don't know. How do you fix that? Someone should. If you lived in New York, you'd understand why they don't care about that. Why? It's terrible. Yeah.

There's just so much stuff going on okay it's your new york is an environment full of tons of cultures i mean like tons yeah like you you don't like every every block is different like you know i mean yeah unless you're like in a set neighborhood where you know it's the hood or whatever right cool but it's like and that's the other thing like people will live in New York and they'll stay

in their hood so much that they won't ever see you there and then they'll see you somewhere else and be like yo you won't be outside so have you always

played basketball was that like your thing I was always in the parks growing up so you see did you used to get into a lot of fights cause you

you know I mean yeah I was you in the parks growing up. So you used to get into a lot of fights because you, you know. I mean, yeah. I was, you know. The white boy at Ackerball? You know, technically I got a percentage of Cuban in me. But, you know.

But it's like at the same time, but I'm mostly Sicilian, German, and Irish. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, you know. So you're so used to

having to handle your business a lot of the time. Oh, you fight every other day. That's funny. That's the thing. That's what I'm saying. In New York, you could be walking down the block.

You could be walking down the block and just end up in the wrong eye contact conversation with somebody. What you looking at? Yeah. Because people are so miserable. Everybody is just trying to chase a bag and figure out how to survive and live the American dream. But everybody's not acquiring that, so they're miserable. And then what they do is they take their misery and they project it to everybody else. Because they have to release it somewhere.

I feel that. So you think that's the problem? That's what it is? It's just a bunch of angry people that's not living out their dreams? That's fucking insane. I wouldn't say they're dreams, but even... dreams but even sorry i'm gonna cut you off not even a dream but not even like the life that's that they feel is feel is uh you know healthy yeah so because it's not to their whatever they're you know they want for sure then they're living in a in a in a space where it's a recycling

mentality that keeps them in the same place. There's certain people you could feel the energy suck just taking away your energy, man. And that's a lot of people in New York. You be walking down the block, you'm gonna find somebody like that. Seriously, bro. Go in the grocery store. Somebody miserable because he can't find his apples. I feel that. So when did

you actually get into the YouTube space and start hooping and realize like, yo, I got something here. What was the first video you was like like get into the youtube space and start hooping and realize like yo i got something like what was the first video you was like okay i'm turned on by this like i'm about to do this shit for the fourth time wait what whoa um nah i'm i'm uh financially turned on by it i would say i didn't really start youtube until 2021 wow but i've only been doing it a couple years yeah i'm only been in the space for like he gets views a year and a half sheesh i mean i i have a knack for unapologetically being my he says gets

views right i put it like this you know i have a knack for unapologetically being myself and it drives people nuts so is that is that the actual recipe is to be authentic do you you feel like in that space my authenticism i guess because we had one guy it took him what five years right which guy um i forget his name oh oh uh dictionary yeah it took him five years to get to a certain point and you said you've only been doing it since you said 2021 yeah and actually i didn't start my own channel till 2022. bro that's like no he also caught the right timing because basketball started blowing up on youtube like the street ball culture yeah yeah like he was part of the group that brought it back oh yeah okay so basically like i ended up um i was at the i was going to a park regularly to play. My boy invited me to come play.

I'm thinking that it's a regular run. I show up, and there's this kid there that I actually had seen before. I had played with him before because we beat them. When I first met him, he was playing with the Ball is Life East Coast squad. We beat them, and then they kind of shaped the – it was funny, too, because they shaped the video to make it look like we lost but we won. It was hilarious. They do that.

Whatever. They do that. It's the coolest shit. So whatever. And then I had – and then when I bumped into him the second time, that same kid, his name is Nick Briz. You probably know who Nick is, right? Yeah.

So I guess he had a boy there that was there and he just, he was just, he got real disrespectful. Like, shut the f*** up. You know. What? So I started, all I did is kind of naturally react how I would if there wasn't cameras. Right, right, right.

You know what I mean? Like, what do you mean? Dude, swing on me so I can beat you up then. Because now I understand, you you know from lawsuits and shit yeah that if you punch somebody in the face first you're definitely gonna be sued and going to jail right now my first and my now my first intuition is do something swing on me so i can beat you up and that's what happened and then that video just went crazy right every it clicked two million views i think in like two days damn yeah it was crazy and then after that i started popping out with that kid nick um and every single run it was like there was there was always though beef though and shit like or like just disrespect for someone

some whispering my ear calling me a bitch somebody's doing this so something just like somebody crossing the line every time right yeah that's what it got to you know what i mean so that's how i ended up into the youtube and i was rocking with so you're so you're a villain technically i was painted to be a villain yeah you were created like the joker i mean yeah you made it into a villain exactly because i was really just chilling you know what i mean i came out to play basketball we were playing a competitive game i was talking my you know because there's a big difference there's a big difference between talking basketball shit and talking shit yeah you know what i mean like so i talk basketball shit

i play ball talk basketball shit play hard once people talk personal like it gets to you well what happens is is that they if they're on the ass end of that they can't control their emotions so now they cross the line right you know right I mean it's like you know think about it most young men these days are not being taught and as a man if you're going to be a man you have to control your emotions absolutely you know I mean even I'm I'm whom I'm talking all this shit but I'm a person I lose control too so I feel that that's why I was that's why I ended up bugging out because I was I lost control in the situation. Right? But it's like, you know, you grow as you get older.

Yeah. And the environment, though, with the YouTube stuff, it just kept happening and it kept going viral. So we were just a mil, a mil. They were getting a mil every video, bro. Minimum. Sometimes three. It was crazy. And this was your first year on YouTube. Well, it was on my channel that i was

performing for that's not normal so i was performing for it's not normal at all so i wasn't performing over my channel i was performing for the kid nick brizza's channel yeah yeah it was and it was um it was it was really cool for a while um and then it just kind of so how how far do you want to take it like what's like where do you where do you want to go with it do you have a direction i have a big direction oh i don't know if i can tell you guys don't care why because because you know what it is you want to buy it still it well i haven't i have the name of the company trademarked already but they're not you yes you're very right but you know what it is um i just understand that this space has a knack for unoriginality and synthetic imagination.

Okay. So synthetic imagination is essentially someone's idea and then creating a new idea with that idea and making it into something of their own. Okay. And that's the knack for this industry, even in music, everything. That's what people do. Okay, so without telling us directly, just kind of give us your, not idea, because that's actually telling us directly, but just kind of give us like a concept of it, like in a way. the creators to come get paid have a huge platform right be overseas and here in america balling the fuck out oh that's fire interesting i kind of i could and i kind of see how about this and all right and it's attached to something that has to do with all of the viral food TikToks. Ooh.

Now we're talking. I'm a big foodie, man. That's all I'm going to say. That's dope. I love that. All right? Big, big plan. So have you already started working on it and curating everything?

Oh, yeah. Everything's already in place. We're looking at a location. We're looking at a bunch of stuff. And that'll be in Orlando, or will it be somewhere? Yeah. I'm looking to do it in Orlando. Okay.

That's sick. And that'll be in Orlando or will it be somewhere? Yeah, I'm looking to do it in Orlando. Okay. I'm looking to put basically, I'm looking to put something in the space that just gives, because what's happening, companies are trying to corner the streetball market now. Why? Why though? Well, because there's money in it. Yeah, they see the money. They want to own it, right? Remember And One?

Yeah. They're essentially trying to do there's money in it. Yeah, they see the money. They want to own it, right? Remember and one? Yeah. They're essentially trying to do the same thing and one. Yeah, but and one actually started and finished and then ball up followed up after that. But what? Ball up? Yeah, ball up. Does anybody even know what the fuck that is? No.

Because I don't know what that is. Ball up actually didn't get out at one point for sure. I thought you meant ball is life. No. I'm like, what? Ball is life came after ball up. I don't remember Ball Up. Me neither.

Ball Up was like a spinoff of N1. Where you from? L.A. Okay, so it was in L.A. No, Ball Up. No, they did a tour like N1. They literally took the whole concept. That's hilarious.

Like I said, synthetic imagination. There you go. Look at that. You've played all over the country. Yes. Which city had the best hoopers? New York New York? Are you biased?

Or you actually think it's New York? Nah I'm not biased at all It's New York because The tenacity you get from New York players Even if somebody else is skilled in another city You don't get the same tenacity You just get the skill

You know what I'm saying? New York comes with a certain grit when it comes to playing. Kyrie. Kemba. He's from Jersey, I thought. He is. But you're playing in the New York circuit. It's the same shit.

Yeah, it's crazy. Because when you're in the New York circuit, I mean, especially in the parks, if you ask me, bro. The parks are really like, that's how I grew up. You got to be tough to even play in those parks. I think as a kid in New York, you got to be tough to even skateboard, to do anything out there. Yeah, it takes courage because you're walking into an environment you don't even know. So you go into a park, you don't even know these people.

You know what I mean? For sure. Growing up, you try a new park, go play ball somewhere new. You move somewhere. It's a new park. You're pulling up. You don't know who's going to be there. I have a certain grit to y'all, like a certain toughness.

It's like you can't emulate that shit. Shaq, too, is from Jersey. Shaq's big. And look, he's one of the biggest dogs that's ever balked. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? So you said some of the tough, some of the best basketball comes from New York. Yes.

What about playing on the West Coast? How's that? What's the difference in gameplay? I think the only place you get a New York feel is in Venice Beach. Venice Beach, yeah. You're not getting like as far as the grit. You know what I'm saying? Like Venice Beach, they're about it.

They're playing. And they'll squabble. And they go right back to playing. And that's how I grew up. In New York, that's the way you do it. If you got a problem and something gets too excessive across the line, you shoot a quick fade and either your face is too bumpy so you leave or your face ain't so bumpy so you check the ball up.

You know what I'm saying? That's simple. That's wild. That's the natural culture. That's crazy. I'm not going to ask no questions. Let them fight. Let them fight.

That's it. Don't get away. Let them fight, bro. Do you like playing streetball more than organized basketball? Oh, absolutely, man. Why? Because look at the way organized basketball is it's all cookie cutter it think about and i'm not dissing any anything about the way that they play that's their style it's they want to clean cut smooth

robots that are very skilled at basketball okay you got it that's your thing no problem so no disrespect but to me that shit gets boring like just that's just my, you got it. That's your thing. No problem. So no disrespect. But to me, that shit gets boring. That's just my perception. It gets boring to me. Except for certain players that are really exciting to watch. John Morant.

I love watching Kyrie play. I love watching Luka. LeBron, obviously, for years now has been a great person to watch. That's what I'm saying. There will be exciting teams and players to watch, so you'll tune in. But it's not something where you're fully invested. You know what I mean?

If a basketball game is going on and my phone rings, I'm going to stop and pick it up. You know what I mean? I'm not that interested. I'm not going to be like, nah, let me ignore this call you i can't believe this is happening what's gonna happen next you know what i mean like you don't think like it's a different type of enthusiasm you know i mean and that's what really too i feel like that's what really got streetball back into the wave is bro is these are this is a place where for youtube fans don't have to worry about if I say, ah! I feel like that's where ball originated at. That's like

the church of basketball. It's street ball, bro. That's church. I like that terminology. I feel like that's church. If you've never played in a street ball game, you're not really like, you're not really laced up.

Like you ain't really experienced basketball at its, I feel like NBA is high level, but highest intensity is streetball because it's so rugged. It's on CNN. You got people this close to you. They all, you know, the fans are all in your face. It's like doggy dog. I feel like you're not really proclaimed until you actually experience the street ball.

And I feel like that's why a lot of some of the greats, the legendary players, they go to the Rutgers. They go to Sunset to get that full, great experience and play against somebody. Dude, there's some ballers out there, bro. KD was getting a run for his money out there. He's KD. Yeah, I saw that.

Kobe, I think Kobe damn near played every summer out there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he was out there. Kobe was religiously out there, bro. Because, go ahead, my fault. No, go ahead. Because when you're in that environment, though, bro, you have to either perform or get embarrassed. Yeah.

And that, it's that same, that's why, like, most of the time people be so surprised with me because you know i used to be real lean and like you know kind of real real husky and then i i kind of i kind of went through this a real bad time in my life you know i mean where um just everything was was messed up before all the success before i created everything i needed to um i basically i went through a period of my life where I was homeless. Damn. I had nothing.

I slept on a park bench. I had to walk to the gym six miles every day there and six miles back. No. So when I finally did get a spot and I just kind of- How did you overcome that? Like, what mindset did you have? Do you want me to answer you honestly? Yeah, no, no no for real no i i want you to be really i want you to be really transparent no be

transparent how do you over without indicting yourself yeah right but how do you how do you overcome a time like that right and persevere yeah to be who you are now, smiling, fresh, and able to tell your story. How do you overcome that? Perseverance. I think a lot of times— But how do you persevere? How do you persevere? How do you persevere?

I think a lot of times people focus their attention and energy so much on the problem, they forget to realize, yo what's the answer yeah you know what i'm saying so it's like and so oh my god this is happening and then they go oh my god this is happening and then they go oh my god this is happening bro okay you said that five times already what what is the answer what's the solution and what's the first steps to getting there right so for me what it is is the way i come at things is like this it's like all right something bad happens i can do something about it so why worry right something bad happens something bad happens i can't do anything about it so why worry yeah you know i'm saying it's like if you put yourself in this panic state oh my god it's everything's

my life is a mess right you're it's all you're thinking about. You're not imagining what the solutions are. Right. You're not imagining the steps that you need to take to get to where you want to be. Right. You're not thinking about the process. You're not thinking about the work, you know, what needs to be done. Right. You're focused on the problem and not the actual work that it takes to get to where you want to be.

So the way I really persevered, a lot of cold days, man, a lot of cold days where, you know, just hurt, you know, when you walk with a heavy heart, man. How often did you cry? Oh, man, crying? Crying is not really my thing. So you never cried the whole time? I've cried, of course.

I'm not going to lie to you. Do you feel like crying is important? I think it is a good outlet. I don't disagree with the fact that crying is a good thing. But I just, for me, I like to keep my conversations and cries, you know, between me and the creator. You know what I'm saying? I got you. I feel that.

That's what I do. You know, because it's like everybody has an opinion. Right. Right. It's like everybody has an opinion, right? But if you allow people's energy to affect you in your moments of duress, that opinion could really rub you the worst way and then send you way off track. Gotcha. You know what I mean? So I just kind of keep things to myself, focus, get on track with what I need to do,

the steps, because everything is steps. For my life, it's all steps. I'm just stepping stone piece by piece. You know what I need to do, the steps, because everything is steps. For my life, it's all steps. I'm just stepping stone piece by piece. You know what I mean? And taking the time to invest into those steps is where success lies, if you ask me. That's up. And let me ask you this, one more question.

What would be the most, what opponent would you want to match up with to make the most viral one-on-one game? Like who would be the number one opponent to where, like, yo, this is going to be the most viral one-on-one game in YouTube history? Who would be that guy for you? Whether it's a street baller or maybe an NBA player, but who's that guy one-on-one where it would be the biggest viral? What is a couple of them? Because you gotta understand something. Who's number one, though? Who's number one? He doesn't know about the fallout.

Yeah, this is gonna blow up. I mean, I don't think that that fallout... You think that fallout one-on-one would be lit? You versus Nick? Yeah. Me versus Nick Briz. It would get views. Yeah? Yeah. What if we boxed? That would get even more views. Hey, what if a winner after this boxed or play get even more of you hey what if a winner hey after this at box or play play ball then box listen there is chess boxing have you seen that they play chess in the ring and then they box in between rounds so with that with that though i can say like look do you here's the other

question i have though before we continue real quick you really think that 1v1 is the most exciting thing i don't think 1v1 is the most exciting thing? I don't think 1v1 is the most exciting thing, but I'm saying from your perspective, I want to know your opinion on this. Who would be your viral match to where it's one-on-one or however you want to set it up? What would be the most viral game to you? What would be a viral game to you to where everyone would want to tune in for it, even pay for it? I think obviously everybody, you know, obviously, yes, that one-on-one with Nick Briss would be way up there. I think the way that I am intense and talk my shit, I really think, though, a one-on-one with Draymond Green would be, like, one of a very, like, entertaining video.

Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Plus, like, you know, I think that would be like one of a very like entertaining video right right you know what i'm saying plus like you know it's i think that would be interesting um and then besides that uh i don't know i don't know i think but i think if i had to pick one a one-on-one or chris brown oh viral he could hoop he could hoop yeah he's definitely i actually really want to play him once he's natural because he can hoop no he no like he's nice yeah. I actually really want to play him once. Yeah, he's natural. Because he can hoop. No, like, he's nice. Yeah. Like, I watched him. And, you know, since I play basketball, I can kind of see details. Because cameras lie.

I look slow on camera. You do. But really, I'll shift the shit out of someone. And they don't know it. You know what I'm saying? There's some comments saying you got some handles now. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, the love is kind of shifting a little more because they because they're seeing what's happening i get a lot of hatred because like i said i'm unapologetically myself so it makes people pissed i feel that but so they can't even take the time to appreciate even my growth of my of my game and with me working on what i'm doing no i see you shooting threes now man i see you i see you working on that we gotta wrap this up man but any closing thoughts on where people can find you? Yes, you can find me on Instagram at ThatChrisWhite. T-H-A-T-C-R-S-W-H-T.

Oh, you got it up there. Oh, y'all got to see, man. I told you this professional vibe. I'm surprised I can curse here. But yeah, and then also I'm on TikTok at C-R-S-W-H-T underscore. You guys might not have that one, but it's cool. And then YouTube is C-R-S-W-H-T. Perfect. You guys might not have that one, but it's cool. And then YouTube is CRSWHT. Perfect.

Wayne? At the creator on Instagram. How that mean? Right there. There we go. Yahtzee. Sean Kelly here. Thanks for tuning in, guys.

I'll see you next week. Peace.