Digital Social Hour - From Twitch to OnlyF*ns: A Creator's Journey | Dan Dangler | Dan Dangler DSH #1015
Episode Date: December 25, 2024From Twitch to OnlyF*ns: Dan Dangler spills all in this eye-opening episode! 🎮➡️🔞 Discover the challenges of streaming, the surprising professionalism of adult content creation, and the pers...onal cost of pursuing an unconventional career. 🤯 Dan shares his journey, discussing the mental toll of streaming, family reactions to his career change, and the realities of the adult entertainment industry. Get ready for raw honesty about mental health, plastic surgery, and the unexpected perks of his new path. 🎭💰 Tune in for a candid conversation about fame, fan interactions, and finding authenticity in an often misunderstood profession. Dan's story will make you laugh, think, and maybe even challenge your preconceptions! 🤔💡 Don't miss this fascinating dive into the world of online content creation and adult entertainment. Hit subscribe for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 #howtomakemoneyonline #contentcreation #onlyf*nsmarketingstrategy #onlyf*nsmarketing #contentcreator CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 06:05 - Stopping Streaming Reasons 09:11 - Ninja's Impact on Gaming 11:39 - Jack Doherty’s Car Crash Reaction 15:48 - Facing Criticism and Challenges 17:54 - Starting to Earn Money 19:45 - Family Relationships and Estrangement 23:15 - Commitment to Honesty 26:30 - Frequency of Intimacy 30:06 - Interactions with Fans 32:35 - Dislike for Kik Platform 35:35 - Opinions on FouseyTube 38:18 - Future Plans and Projects 41:00 - Personal Surgeries Experience 44:58 - Dealing with Parasites 50:42 - Mental Health Awareness 51:30 - Lexapro Medication Discussion 53:19 - Xanax and Klonopin Insights 55:50 - Outro 55:58 - Dan Dangler’s Final Thoughts APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Dan Dangler https://www.instagram.com/thedandangler/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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It's just so, it's very mentally draining.
So I'm glad that I made the switch.
I can see that. Neon said streaming's a really hard job.
It's probably one of the hardest jobs and not the job itself.
Like not streaming, like that's, it's easy,
but it's the fact of how many hours it is and how like
mentally draining it is, you know?
All right guys, Dan Dangler here today.
Wow.
Hi.
Thanks for coming on.
Yeah, of course.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, I just saw you on a Ryan Pownall show yesterday,
right?
Oh my God.
I'm always on that thing.
Yeah, he loves you on there.
We come up with good ideas and stuff.
So that's why we work together.
I saw you went on with the grandpa.
Yeah, my grandpa, my grandpa Wayne, he's insane.
Yeah, wait, that's actually your grandpa?
Yeah.
Oh, I thought that was a skit.
Nope, he's my grandpa and he's, yeah,
he's an adult entertainer.
No way.
Yeah.
So did he inspire you?
No.
No?
No, you know, I didn't look at pictures of his dick
growing up or anything like that, nope.
Did you know he was in that space though growing up?
No, it wasn't until I got a little older that things started.
I think he retired and when his wife passed away,
I think that it was just like, he's a wild man now.
Yeah.
Yeah, scratching that itch that he had during marriage.
Yeah.
Yeah, marriage is a tricky thing.
Yes.
I wouldn't know, but yeah.
You're pushing 30 now.
Are you thinking about it?
You just exposed me.
No, I'm not thinking about it.
I'm not even gonna lie.
I'm not, I don't think I ever want to get married.
Yeah?
Yeah, I think I'd be like married without the government.
If that makes sense.
You don't want to be financially tied to someone.
Yeah, I don't want to be tied in general to somebody like through the government, if that makes sense. You don't want to be financially tied to someone. Yeah, I don't want to be tied in general
to somebody through the government.
Like I just think that we can be together
and be married and do all that stuff
and not have to be actually married.
I feel that there doesn't seem to be much benefit
involved in the government.
Yeah, I mean sometimes for like insurance and stuff
but I don't know, that's not really worth it to me.
Yeah, what about dating though? I date but I don't know. That's not really worth it to me. Yeah.
What about dating, though?
I date, but I'm not really dating right now
because I'm working on just my career and stuff like that.
So I have eight dogs.
Damn.
Yeah, nobody wants to date a girl with eight dogs.
I had seven on my notes, so you must have got every single one.
I did get another one, yes.
Every time I talk to somebody new, or I see my friends every once in a while,
I have to be like, yeah, there's another one now, there's another one.
This one?
Where do you get them all?
They're all rescues.
So this one I just found was running on the street on my way.
I was on my way to collab with J-Mac.
I don't know what that is.
He's a male performer.
And there was this little puppy running in the street,
not puppy, it's like an old ass Chihuahua.
And I grabbed it and there was some lady running after it.
I thought that it was her dog, so I was like,
here you go, and she's like, no, it's not my dog.
So I'm like, oh shit.
So I had to take this thing home, it's old as shit.
So it's like gotta be like, yeah it's like 13, 14.
It's just on hospice with me.
Wow, that's sad.
It's fine, it's happy, it loves food.
So you're willing to take in senior dogs,
that shows your heart is big.
Oh my God, I love any dog, any dog.
Besides like crazy dogs, I've done, I've literally, I've done the whole,
you know, like nut job dog, like crazy.
Like not for me.
The traumatized ones?
Yeah.
Yeah, cause the problem is they'll attack your other dogs.
Yeah, it's too much right now.
I've had it before and I've had just one single dog,
but I don't know.
And more of a, I like a whole pack.
Yeah, damn, you must have a good dog sitter
Yes, I do thank God that shit ain't cheap cuz I pay mine I got two dogs
It's like 150 a night mine lives with me. So I have two assistants and one of my assistants is my manager
So he came with me days
So the other assistant watches them while I'm gone and he stays at my house for free smart
So it's like not for free. He stays at my house for free. Smart. So it's like, not for free.
He stays at my house in exchange for, you know,
watching the dogs and stuff like that.
That's a good trade.
Yeah. Wow.
Perfect.
Just dogs or you got other animals too?
No, I couldn't have other animals.
I, RIP, RIP, I tried to rescue a bird this past month.
Alexis Fox was, I don't know how dirty I can get it.
Alexis Fox was banging and a bird ran into the window
while she was banging in it and it fell on the ground.
Tried to rehabilitate it, RIP, I tend to make it.
That's couple, this happened like last week.
I was like, God darn it.
I've never rehabilitated a bird though, so I don't know.
See, I'm kind of spiritual.
So when I hear of a bird flying in a window like that,
I wonder what the meaning is there.
Death?
Yeah.
Nah, like.
Long, painful death.
I don't think that's a random thing.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It was, I'm not a bird girl.
Let's just put it that way.
I tried.
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Well certain people can like almost talk to animals in like a way where it makes them
comfortable.
Yeah.
Like Tarzan.
Yeah, Dr. Doodle. Dr. Doodle, yeah. Dr. Doodle, yeah. Certain people got them comfortable. Yeah. Like Tarzan. Yeah, Dr. Doodle.
Doodle, yeah.
Dr. Doodle, yeah.
Certain people got that touch.
Yeah.
Sounds like you got that with dogs.
I think so, maybe.
Sometimes it's funny though,
this old dog likes my roommates better than me.
And I think she's a guy dog.
I think she likes men better than females.
Dogs are good at reading people too.
Well, it's not reading me very well.
Nah, but when I bring friends over the house and my dogs don't like them, that's weird to me.
Oh yeah, that's a red flag.
My dogs have never not liked somebody, I don't think.
Really?
They've gotten scared when big dudes walk in with backpacks and stuff like big dudes, but
Other than that, they don't really get scared. Yeah. Yeah, you got big dudes coming over. Yeah
Yeah, big dudes a lot of the time coming over. I wonder why yes collapse
So you're not streaming anymore, huh? Mm-hmm. I get banned too much
Right now I'm banned. I was supposed to stream yesterday.
On Twitch?
Yeah, but I'm banned.
Damn, what was the reason this time?
Who knows?
They don't tell you?
It's always sex related for me.
Like I'm always, you know, I do stuff like I'll be,
I don't know, I try to push the rules a little bit
and I don't feel like I break them,
but sometimes they feel like I break them.
Well they've gone pretty PG-13 lately I feel like.
Yeah, everything has gone PG-13 lately.
So annoying.
Like my Twitter got pulled down.
One of my alternate Twitters got pulled down.
Really?
Because I had a picture of me touching a guy's chest
like this.
I was like this.
I was touching his chest and it got pulled down.
I'm like, we can post our butt holes on this platform.
Why can like, why is this photo getting taken down?
That's weird, yeah.
I thought with Elon taking over,
they weren't really taking down accounts anymore.
I feel like Elon made it worse.
I feel like he made it more like,
he doesn't like when the girls like comment under
like posts and stuff and do the self promo
and all that stuff.
He talked about trying to get rid of that somehow, but.
I see a lot of girls doing that.
How can you get rid of that?
It's like, it's gonna happen.
I see it everywhere.
Is that how you get a lot of clients?
Well, what do you mean clients?
Like for your OF like subscribers.
Yeah, I do ads and stuff on there.
Yeah, I have a team for ads and stuff like that.
I'm not really doing that.
I'm more of the Instagram girl.
That's my main place.
That's a good funnel too, I bet.
I love Instagram, it's so fun.
Your DMs must be popping.
Yeah, no.
Yeah, I get a ton of fans and stuff, but yeah.
Nothing too crazy.
Okay.
Do you respond to fans ever?
Not on there,
because then I'm already responding on my,
can I say OnlyFans?
I think so, yeah.
I'm already responding on my spicy site.
You know?
I'm already responding on that all day long,
so I don't want to, if I do respond, I'm like, hey, come talk to me over here.
Yeah.
I'm over here.
Yeah.
Was the money better there or with streaming?
With OnlyFans.
Really?
By far.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
So that's why I kind of took a break from streaming because streaming is so difficult.
People don't understand it.
A lot of times, streamers will be like, this is too much for me, and like,
they'll get made fun of because it's considered an easy job.
But it really isn't because it's like eight hours every day
staring at the computer, going like this, you know, smiling.
Somebody calls you ugly and fat, and you're like,
you know, like, no commercial break.
It's just so, it's very mentally draining.
So I'm glad that I made the switch.
I can see that.
Neon said streaming's a really hard job.
It's probably one of the hardest jobs.
And not the job itself, like not streaming.
Like that's, it's easy, but it's the fact
of how many hours it is and how like
mentally draining it is, you know?
I could see a take a toll on people.
Like Ninja seems pretty unhinged.
He's, I'm gonna say he's a jackass.
He's a jackass, man.
He's such a like a sore loser
just because he's not like popping like that anymore.
He'll like put down people for, you know,
just if they do good, you know what I mean?
Like he gets, you can tell he gets really jealous when like other people are breaking his records
and I saw him with the Kaisenac stuff yeah he's just very just very jealous
man you know Kaisenac gets his subathon beat and he's like good job iron mouse
like you you you know you won you did it blah blah you know and then ninja gets
beat and he's like this is bullshit you know yeah I hate, you did it, blah, blah, blah, you know, and then Ninja gets beat and he's like,
this is bullshit, me, me, me, you know? Yeah, I hate to see that because during
Fortnite's peak he was so fun to watch. Yeah.
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To see the side of him.
Yeah, it's, yeah.
I put myself in his shoes and I wonder how I'd feel about.
Probably the same, but you can't show that, you know?
You gotta, yeah, not show that.
Yeah, you don't wanna sound ungrateful,
cause sure you might've had 100,000 people watching you
at one time, but you still have 12,000 people watching you,
you know, like, and that's the stuff I think
that people take for granted when they-
Which is still a lot of people.
Yeah, they don't, yeah.
That's just really mentally challenging,
the streaming world.
Yeah, I wonder what the top streamers these days get,
do you know?
Money-wise?
Like, how many people are watching them?
Oh, yeah, like a hundred thousand.
Like, Kaisenac can have like 50k to 200k, you know what I mean? Holy crap. Yeah, it 100,000. Damn. Like, Kaisenac can have like 50K to 200K,
you know what I mean?
Holy crap.
Yeah, it's pretty insane.
But Neon, I don't even consider him a streamer,
like a real streamer, because he viewbots everything.
That's how he got any of his following.
He bought it all, completely bought it all.
I've heard that he viewbots,
but I've never seen like proof of it.
Yeah, well, Kickus came out and said,
don't be like Neon. Oh, really? Yes
Wow, so I don't consider I will never consider him amongst the top streamers because of that top streamers don't cheat to get there
So, um, yeah, I didn't know you could view bot that easily
Yeah, especially on kick especially on kick like all those streamers who are getting like, there are streamers who are gone off the platform now,
but like they were getting like 30K fake viewers.
You go into their channel and their channel's moving
like super slow and it makes no sense
for the amount of viewers they have.
Right, so that's a sign that they're viewbotting
when the chat's slow?
There's also different ways to find out,
but yeah, that's one of them.
Damn, so what about Jack Doherty? What do you think about that kid?
I don't... His face pisses me off. I don't know why.
I think I'm not the only person who thinks that.
I don't really care about him or any of the shit he does, but one thing,
I think he needs his ass beat. I'm not going to lie.
I think that Jack Doherty, all these dudes with the security guards,
they'll literally be like, they'll talk shit to people and they'll be like, say something, and their security guard will be right in front of them.
I'm like, bro, when I was a kid, if you had a security guard in front of you to talk shit,
like, you would have gotten jumped so fucking hard. Like, you would have been the biggest loser.
So, I just think that, like like when you have to have like hire somebody
to handle your fights for you I think that like you maybe you shouldn't be
fighting. Yeah well he's permanently banned right now as we're filming this I
don't know if he'll get it back. He probably will because kicks really bad
like that. Yeah I don't think he should though I think he should be kicked off
all platforms. Did you see that car crash? Mm-hmm. That was crazy. Yeah for people who don't know he was texting and driving
Got in a car accident hurt his hurt his cameraman very bad and his cameraman was one of the last things he was worried about
So it was kind of sad. He told him to keep filming
Yeah, he literally gave his camera to a random guy outside of his window
Like here watch me jump out my crashed car window.
It was just very, in situations like that,
I think it shows your true person.
100%.
Yeah, and I think that that was really shitty.
Well, I think streaming in general,
because you're on for so long,
your true colors are gonna come out.
Oh yeah, 100%, especially something like that.
I don't even, just don't text and drive.
Especially when it's fucking raining.
On a highway too.
Yeah.
Like maybe at a stoplight but not highway.
And your friend is in the car, like come on.
Yeah.
Who do you watch the most right now, streamers?
I don't really watch streamers right now
but if I do watch them, like it'll be like, yeah,
like Kai or somebody like that,
I might pop in to see what's going on or maybe that. I might pop in to see what's going on
or maybe some of my friends pop in, see what's going on.
But yeah, I'm not really watching streamers
too much these days, just clips on Twitter.
Yeah, these clippers, man.
I'm about to start doing it for the pod.
I'm excited.
Oh my God.
Aiden Ross is killing it with these clippers.
Yeah.
You see them on TikTok and Instagram Reels.
Oh yeah, everywhere, everywhere.
There's a big one going on right now.
Oh really, for MrBeast?
No, well, yeah, but have you seen this Frogan?
Frogan, oh yeah.
Oh my.
She pissed off the veterans?
God, she pissed off me too.
Really?
What'd she say to you?
I'm from a military family, so my brother went to Iraq
when I was very young, and there'd be times where like,
you didn't know what the fuck was happening
because you couldn't get in contact.
And she just came out and she's like,
I hope all US soldiers get PTSD
and just all this really fucked up shit
and just like, I hate them, blah, blah, blah.
So she's, people are blowing her up right now.
She's under fire.
Yeah.
So was she big before this?
Like was she a known creator?
She was big.
She's like the, she's like really the only one on Twitch
who's wearing like a hijab, I think it's called,
or maybe just the headpiece, whatever one that's called.
Yeah.
Yeah, so she's very, she's, yeah,
she's her own niche and stuff like that, but she's-
Good luck to her, man.
She's, I would be afraid to go out in public
after saying something like that.
That's one community I wouldn't want to piss off,
the veterans.
You don't mess with veterans, especially in
America where we are pro, pro military.
Oh yeah.
Do not mess with, so yeah, that one's going
viral right now.
Like she is, yeah.
She tried to apologize,
but basically just spec'd her statement off.
Yeah, that's one thing that I would just let it go.
Yeah, just don't be on the internet for a long time.
Long time, yeah.
The good thing is though,
people will eventually forget, I feel like.
Hopefully.
You think so?
Actually, no.
Hopefully they don't forget.
Fuck her.
Fuck her, she's a bitch.
Thank you to all the veterans who work your ass off
and risk your life for us.
Yeah, shout out to veterans,
I've had a lot on the show actually.
Yeah.
Have you ever been under fire like that before
from the internet?
Oh yeah, I've had somebody make up a story about me.
Really?
Oh my God, when I first started streaming,
this was fucking miserable.
When I first started streaming,
I didn't have a ton of money and stuff like that. It wasn't poor, but I was making enough to pay the bills here and there.
I didn't have a patio in my backyard, so I wanted a patio, and it was Breast Cancer Awareness Day.
So I was like, hey guys, the subs today, half the subs will go to donating to Breast Cancer
Awareness, and then if I make past the amount of my daily amount
that'll go to breast cancer awareness too. Like I was just trying to do this
thing and then had this one loser guy try and say that I was like stealing
from charity that I was taking 50% of like what goes to charity but in reality
I just didn't have a lot of money at the time and I was saying I'll donate half
of my income to charity, Not 100%, half of it.
He didn't do shit for breast cancer awareness day.
He said I was stealing, it was a whole thing.
It really, it messed me up big time
because it was one of the first false rumors
that ever went around about me.
And yeah, it messed me up pretty bad
because it's something that I hold close to my heart
and all that stuff, but yeah, I'm over it now.
Fuck that guy.
Damn, that's messed up.
You were trying to do something good and then you get attacked. yeah, I'm over it now, fuck that guy. Damn, that's messed up. You were trying to do something good
and then you get attacked.
Yeah, I mean I get where they were coming from.
Like it could look bad if like I made,
but I wasn't making money like that at the time.
It was, you know, and I also showed all the receipts
to all my, you know, everybody,
hey, this is what I donated, blah, blah, blah.
As long as you got the truth on your side,
you can't really lose.
Yeah, there was, yeah.
So it was hard, but fine.
When did the money start coming in?
How long did that take?
I'll say money started coming in probably like,
right at COVID.
Okay, so 2019?
Yeah, that's right when it started coming in
because I was, that was my last semester of college.
It was, I finished up my other job.
I just quit my other job.
And so it was like, I was really focusing on it
and making money from it then, so yeah.
That was streaming at the time?
Yeah.
Okay, and when did you transition from that?
I've been in like OnlyFans for like three years or so.
Okay. Two, three years or so. Okay.
Two, three years, but yeah.
So that's when I transitioned.
So a couple years in?
Yeah.
That makes sense.
After a couple years of streaming, I went to OnlyFans.
Who convinced you?
Myself.
It wasn't someone that was like,
well of course all my fans were like,
open up in the OnlyFans, open up,
you know, little horny guys, open up in OnlyFans.
I'm like, no, no, no, I'm not like that,
I'll never do that.
The only reason I was saying no is because
I come from a Midwest family.
Yeah.
You know, I grew up in a church that said
being gay was wrong.
I grew up in like very, you know,
almost Mormon town, but for the Catholics.
Got it.
And so, yeah, I just, I lost my train of thought,
what were we saying?
Your family was super religious and you?
Yeah, they were super religious,
so I didn't want to, well not super religious,
but like, you know, eh, judgmental religious.
So I didn't want to go into OnlyFans
because I didn't want my family to find out.
That was literally the only reason.
And I think back on that, I'm like, that is so sad.
Like I should have just done what I wanted from the start.
Like it's my own life.
So yeah.
Wow.
So how did they take it?
Were they?
Oh, they didn't take it well.
They don't, they literally, I don't know.
Is your part, am I supposed to be this emo?
I mean, be honest.
I want you to be yourself.
Well, I mean, long story short, they don't, they don't agree with it.
They don't talk to me anymore because of it.
Whoa.
I've tried.
Still?
Yes, I've tried everything.
I'm messaging them multiple times.
I'll fly you out, come out.
I've done all sorts of stuff.
I gave my dad a check to get a boat.
My mom ripped it up.
Damn.
So yeah, like there's been a lot of just,
it's dirty money, you know, stuff like that.
But I'm happy, so I don't really give a shit.
They always have a problem with something I do.
You know, if I was streaming, I was, you know,
I had a V-neck shirt on, how could I?
You know, like I posted a picture of me in a bikini,
how could I, as like a 25 year old.
Wow. Yeah, so. a 25 year old. Wow.
Yeah, so.
Sorry to hear that.
So it sounds like they were really strict on you growing up.
Yeah, very strict.
And so I just, it's still a struggle,
but like it's very relieving to like be my own person now,
finally.
Damn.
So what about siblings and cousins and stuff?
Did they all cut you off?
Yeah, they all cut me off.
My siblings cut me off because I might have a brother
who's always been grouchy and shit.
He never liked me anyway.
And then another brother who has kids and he's like,
what if my kids asked you about it
and wanted to do that, blah, blah, blah?
I'm like, you need to talk to your kids
because that's fucking weird that your kids
would ask me about porn, you know what I mean?
Like, I don't think that's a me problem.
I think that's a you problem.
So yeah, we don't talk because of that and stuff.
My cousins would all talk to me if I reach out to them, but I just, you know, I grew
up being forced to go to family events and shit like that.
I didn't want to go.
So now I'm at a time like I don't have to go to
this random cousin's wedding anymore. Yeah, that's how I felt with religion. I got forced to go to
church growing up and I hated it. Yeah, it's just nice to be relieved from that and not have to do
that anymore. And like fake being this like, I don't know, I just didn't want to sit at my cousin's
houses and stuff anymore. No, that type of stuff should call you. Like it shouldn't be like a forced thing.
Yeah.
And I kept getting forced by my mom to do things.
And I just, you know, and I had therapists and they're like,
you shouldn't be forced to do anything and all that stuff.
So yeah.
Yeah, I got forced to go to pretty much forced
to go to college too.
Yeah, same here.
And I had to pay for it.
Oh, that's even worse.
At least my mom.
Shout out to my mom. Pay for it. My mom said, do whatever you want I had to pay for it. Oh, that's even worse. At least my mom, shout out to my mom, pay for it.
My mom said, do whatever you want, but first get a degree.
And I got two degrees, graduated magna cum laude,
and paid off everything and I'm debt free.
Damn.
And then I did porn, because my mom said,
do what you want afterwards, and she didn't like that.
Two degrees, so you got a smart side to you.
Yeah, I got a dedicated side to me.
Good work, I think.
I'm really not that smart.
Like I remember, I hold a lot of information,
but like if me and you did a math test, you'd beat me.
Oh, I failed pre-calc.
So I don't know about that.
Pre-calc, that sounds too smart for me.
Yeah, I couldn't pass that shit in college.
But I would dedicate myself to it hard enough to learn it for the semester type shit. Yeah, so you got good work, I couldn't pass that shit in college. But I would dedicate myself to it hard enough
to learn it for the semester type shit.
Yeah, so you got good work I think.
Yeah, that's where I succeeded thankfully.
That makes sense.
Wow, what a life.
You got a very interesting life.
It's very interesting.
It's cool to see and hear this
because there's people watching this
that could probably relate though.
Strict parents and wanna pursue a passion,
whether it's OF or whether it's something.
My mom wanted me to do human resources.
Wow, that sounds terrible.
I know, she signed me up to be a nurse aid
and I was wiping old people asses and stuff like that.
Like just, yeah, so I mean, I love the job,
but me and my mom had a different view for my life.
Yeah, I mean, I like to volunteer and help out,
but not as a full thing, because then you're limited.
Yeah.
You can only see a certain amount of people a day.
Rather than creating content,
we can impact millions of people.
Yeah.
We could actually help people.
Damn, I don't even know what to say after all that.
Thanks for being honest and vulnerable.
Yeah, I mean, I'm so open. I don't even find it vulnerable. after all that. Thanks for being honest and vulnerable. Yeah, I mean, I'm so like open.
I don't even find it vulnerable.
I'm just so open and honest about everything that like,
I'm open book.
Anything you wanna know.
Have you always been that way?
Yes, yes, yes.
I used to be sassy, very sassy growing up,
but yeah, always an open book.
I'll always give you an honest.
If you're like, I'm that type of girl if my friend asks,
hey, have I been gaining weight?
I will tell them, yes, girl, you've been gaining weight.
No, you haven't, blah, blah, blah.
I'm just very honest.
That's a good friend to have.
Sometimes, some people don't like that.
I told my friend before that she looked funny,
like she had an outfit on.
She's like, well, I didn't need to know that.
I mean, be honest.
If I got a booger in my nose, you know, like tell me.
I'll tell you. Yeah, I got you. If I'm putting on weight, tell me. Well, I won't need to know that. I mean, be honest, if I got a booger in my nose, you know, like tell me. I'll tell you, yeah, I got you.
If I'm putting on weight, tell me,
cause you don't wanna.
Well, I won't tell you unless you ask me.
I'm not gonna go, that also comes from my German side
of the family, like my mom, if she brought an overweight girl
to her home growing up, my German grandma would be like,
you're fat, you need to lose weight.
Damn.
Because that's just like the German side.
Like Germans think that they're helping you
by saying something like that,
but they don't realize like that's actually really hurtful.
Yeah, so Germans are just super honest people.
Oh yeah.
Oh, especially back in the day.
Like, yeah, for sure.
Have you been out there, Germany?
No, I haven't, but a bunch of my cousins have came here
and stuff like that, so.
You've been traveling a lot?
No, I actually don't travel too much
because I might eat dogs.
Makes sense.
If I do travel, it has to be somewhere
like that I can get back in time
in case something wrong happens.
Like I could never go to like China or something,
I don't think because it's just too far away.
Yeah, that's 18 hours, at least, I think.
Yeah. I flew there once.
Yeah? Yeah.
So long. Oh my gosh.
Did you lay down on the seats?
Nah, I was broke back then.
Well, not broke, but I just, I was 10 years old, so.
Oh, yeah.
Well, at least the seats were a little bigger
when you were 10.
I was still the tallest one there when I was 10.
Yeah, well, that's true, yeah.
Yeah, those Asian guys are short.
Yes, yes.
You ever been with an Asian guy?
No. Really?
Yeah, it's so surprising.
I always tell my like fans and followers about that.
I'm like, yeah, I've never been with an Asian guy.
Wow, is it the height thing or what do you think it is?
No, I don't have anything against Asian men.
I just haven't like,
I just haven't ran into an Asian performer. Like there's not a lot of Asian female, I just haven't ran into an Asian performer.
There's not a lot of Asian female, I mean male performers.
That's actually true.
I don't know any to be honest.
Well, it's a very judgmental life.
Like their parents and stuff like that.
It's a very harder thing to get into.
They would drop the kid like your parents did.
Yeah, 100%.
Wow. Yeah, I didn't think of it that way, but 100%.
Yeah, some cultures are just okay with it, and some aren't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wonder why.
I don't know, but us black and white people, we don't care.
We be throwing our booties around everywhere.
Absolutely. There's plenty of us.
Nonstop.
This is an interesting episode for me
because I don't watch porn.
No?
No.
I don't fucking believe you.
Yeah, I don't watch porn.
Are you asexual?
No, I'm not.
I thought I was before, but I just had low testosterone.
Oh, okay.
So you have low testosterone right now, you think?
Not anymore.
Well then why don't you watch porn?
I just have sex.
How often?
Once or twice a week.
Okay. That's enough for me.
That's good, yeah.
That'd be plenty for me.
Yeah, most people do, like not most people,
people do it daily, it's like.
I don't get that.
I'd be drained.
I don't need that.
You know, I need more of an emotional daily,
like rather than a sexual daily, you know?
Emotional daily, I haven't heard that before.
Yeah, like I'd rather like sit there
and like hang out with you, watch a movie, chill,
like do that on daily, rather than have to fuck daily.
Like, you know, like I don't mind fucking,
but like it's my job, you know?
Like sometimes I like to focus on the other stuff.
Yeah, you probably get home after work,
like I don't wanna have sex.
I don't wanna fuck, like mm-mm, yeah.
Yeah, cause you just did it for hours.
Yeah, well not hours. No. I will know.
I draw the line, if a collab lasts longer than 30 minutes, I quit it.
Damn.
I tell them that. I'm not wasting my time.
30 minutes. That's actually pretty long though to be honest.
And if anybody jerks off to a 30 minute video, like, I can give them 15 minutes and buy another fucking video.
You know what I mean?
I don't need to give them a 30 minute video.
I can give them two 15 minute videos.
30 is impressive if you could last the whole time.
Yeah, well and then plus like if you save it
and then you have like multiple parts
in the 30 minute video, you're less likely
to sell more videos, you know what I mean?
Because you gave this long form content
that they can continue to use.
Interesting.
So you drop in a video a week?
Oh yeah, I have sex with like,
I'd collab like twice a week probably.
Okay, so two videos a week?
Yeah, I don't know, yeah.
Kind of depends how I drop them, but yeah.
And is it the same guys normally?
You just rotate?
Yeah, it's around the same guys.
Sometimes it's a new guy, but it's always a guy
that is in the industry and has experience in the industry,
has worked with people I know, stuff like that,
has to be like that.
Yeah, you keep it pretty professional.
Oh, I am one of the most professional porn stars.
I genuinely believe that.
Part of me wanted to, I'm kind of mad I didn't wear like business suits
as like a personality.
Cause I feel like that would have been more me.
But like, yeah, I wish I would have done that
besides of like, oops, besides of like dresses and stuff.
Because I really do treat it like a job.
You know, I'm not, if we're not on the clock,
like if the camera's not rolling, I'm not gonna fluff you.
You know what I mean? Like you, you know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
What does that mean?
Okay, I was like, you're looking at me like you didn't know.
I never heard that.
Okay, so if the camera pauses and we have to take a break,
the guy has to stay erect.
Oh wow.
And so a lot of times girls will help the man
when the camera's off.
I'm a professional corn star, I'm not helping you.
The camera is off, you should be professional enough
to get it up and be ready for me.
Damn.
That's how it works.
Yeah, you gotta switch the camera angles, right?
Yeah, different stuff.
Like it could be anything.
Like have to break to drink.
And if I have to sit there and give you a 30 minute
blow job to get you hard again for our scene,
then I'm not gonna work with you again.
Cause I'd rather just like get what needs to be done
in the 30 minutes.
Yeah, cause that's more time you're spending.
Yeah.
Then I'm not here to give free blowjobs
that aren't on camera.
Yeah.
But it's just the truth.
Like that's a lot.
Yeah, your fans would be upset with that line I think.
Yeah, that's okay.
I'm professional about it.
Have you ever met a fan?
Yeah, I've met tons of fans.
Yeah, I love my fans, they're great.
That's cool.
Some people draw that boundary, I know.
I don't like meet up with them or anything like that.
I see them at events.
I draw the line at meetups.
I don't do meetups because I've had bad experiences. I've had
a guy from California come to Michigan, try to live with me.
Whoa.
With his dog and everything.
What?
Yeah.
He just showed up with his dog?
Yeah. Showed up at an animal sanctuary I volunteered at. Almost followed me all the way home, but
I realized some guy was following me, so I pulled over. And I was, I'm Michigan, I'm Michigan,
German, Italian, spicy girl.
Pulled up, jumped out of my car,
why the fuck are you following me?
And then he gets out of his car, I don't know, I don't know.
And then it was like, long story short, he ended up,
I was like, Z called the police,
because I thought he was like somebody who was sick.
And he's like, don't have Zach call the police. I was like, Z called the police cause I thought he was like somebody who was sick. And he's like, don't have Zach call the police.
I was like, what the fuck?
How do you know my friend's name's Zach?
And then I put two and two together.
Oh, this is my stalker from California.
He's here in Michigan right now.
Yeah, so.
So he was messaging you before that?
He, yeah, he messaged me here and there
and he'd be like, I wanna come to Florida with you
and the mods cause I would take my mods to Florida and stuff.
I wanna come there and I'd be like, no, no, no,
you cannot do that, no.
And I would block him, create new accounts.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's unfortunate.
He's going now though, I don't know where he is now.
Probably on another girl.
Or in jail hopefully.
Got a lot of DUIs.
He had a DUI?
He had a lot of DUIs. I had a DUI? He had a lot of DUIs.
I had a lot of paperwork against him,
so I found out a lot of stuff.
Wow, you did your investigation.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
What are the mods?
Is that Discord mods you're talking about?
Yeah, my mods are like my best friends.
Really?
They're not even really my mods anymore
because I don't stream as much, but so yeah,
it's just a group of people
who used to help me out on my account.
Now they come and visit me in California and stuff.
Nice.
Yeah, one of my assistants was a mod on my Twitch channel
and then we became friends
and then he moved to Michigan to hang out.
So I was like, why don't you live here?
Cause his job is, you know, it's travel job.
So he moved to Michigan and then I moved to California
and I was like, just come to California with me.
So he came to California too.
So yeah.
There we go.
Yeah, my ma became one of my best friends slash roommates.
Shout out to him, he made it.
Yeah.
He got out.
Are you ever gonna, well, you're banned on Twitch.
So what about other platforms?
I'll be back though.
You'll be back?
Yeah, I mean, might be on banned today actually.
Okay.
Yeah.
But would you ever go to Kick or Rumble or something?
Fuck no, I'm not going to Kick.
Kick is full of, I don't know if I can say this word,
so full of adults that talk to children.
Really?
Yes.
I didn't know that.
There's been men who have been kicked off the platform
for talking and getting drunk with underage children.
Whoa.
Yeah, so there's a lot of that.
There's a lot of just nastiness.
I don't want to be associated with that platform anymore.
I actually had a deal with them a while ago.
I was getting paid to stream for them.
And I was getting banned, like not banned,
I was getting like my category switched.
Like people were fucking with my channel
while I was streaming.
Like they would, the kick mods would put me in chess
while I was streaming just chatting.
I don't even know how to play chess.
I don't even have a chess board.
They would literally mess with my
category to like fuck with me. It was the weirdest. I've never had like staff
fuck with me like this before. And then also they
they told me if I didn't want to be fucked with anymore to
be on during the, I think it was during the daytime because at night time their
mods are from the Middle East and their mods are less accepting of females and stuff like
that.
So they basically told me, they told me don't stream at certain times because I'm most luckily
to get messed with.
That is strange.
I'm like, why can't you just handle your fucking staff
and not have them arrest anybody
and I can stream at any time I want.
That's super unprofessional.
It was the most insane thing.
I have the craziest messages in my Discord
from like one of the owners of Kick,
like just the most insane things.
Geez, I do see a lot of degeneracy on that platform.
It is so degenerate.
It is for like the, like, it is the platform for stream reject, like stream rejects, if
that makes sense.
Like rejects.
Yeah.
It's a stream for, it's the place for rejects.
Yeah.
People that get banned on Twitch, right?
They pop over there.
Yeah.
And then they do like all this like pedophile chasing stuff too.
I've seen that.
It's like-
How do you feel about those?
I don't like it.
Really?
Like the Vitaly stuff?
I think that people should be held accountable, obviously,
if they're doing pedophilia stuff.
But I just think that you're putting way too many people
at risk.
You could be, you don't know, these people could have a gun
and shit like that.
They're already unhinged enough to touch children.
I just think that you should like maybe assist the police with that like yeah you know like cuz they catch him and they
like shaver their heads and all that shit then they let him go it's like you
didn't fix his pedophile problem you just fucked him up a little bit now he's
still gonna go home and be a little fucking weirdo one of them suing
battalion I believe yeah for shaming him or whatever. Yeah, that's the thing.
It's like insane.
It's just a mess.
Like I think that they deserve it, absolutely.
I just don't think it should be done that way.
Yeah, it's tough, man.
As a streamer, I get it.
You're constantly trying to innovate,
think of new ways to get views,
but you're pushing that line.
Yeah, it's getting dangerous when you hit that line.
Yeah, the pranksters and stuff.
Yeah.
People walking with security, purposely bumping into people.
Oh my god, that drives me nuts.
I just think if you're not an A-list celebrity
and you have security, I think you're a fucking loser.
I genuinely think you're a loser.
I'm a female and I don't need security
when I go out to places.
Really?
No, because I'm a normal person
and I don't talk shit about people like
these Jack Doherty's and Neon's and them.
I don't need somebody to back me up like that.
I could see it for certain corn stars
because they're just some weird guys.
But yeah, I get what you're saying though.
But even for certain corn stars,
I can go out with people and I can go out
with the big girls and they don't get like fucking,
you know, it's just not the same type of interaction that like Jack Dougherty and all that we're getting you know
yeah I hope he turns it around I don't I hope he goes away you don't think
there's some I think they're all losers I'm not gonna lie I just think they're
losers yeah I think a lot of people can change though I just think he's very
spoke I when he got in that car crash,
that showed me everything I needed to know about him.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I couldn't tell if he was doing it for show,
like for show, but then he got in that crash
and he was still the same person.
Yeah.
They're just bad people.
And even Neon, like I've seen videos of him
before he starts filming, he goes up to everyone
and tells them, yo, I'm going to pretend to be this guy.
Yeah.
Like, if I annoy you, let me know.
Oh yeah, and there's a whole, it's just,
the whole thing is just a weird world.
It's very reality TV.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, I just hope people don't get too carried away
where someone ends up dead or something.
Oh, it's gonna happen, 100%, 100%.
Yeah.
Between fucking Fousey and all these people.
Fousey's going crazy people who's going crazy?
I know again. He messages me every once in a while. Oh he does yeah, but it never makes sense
So I think he might be manic again. Yeah, I don't fourth time. It's not good for it's not good for your health this stream
Genuinely, it's not good for your health, but it's very addictive. Yeah, when you see the views, right? Yeah, so addictive.
You're chasing it.
Money.
Even me with my clips, like if they don't get like
100K views, I'm like, damn, I'm kind of sad about it.
Yeah, and it's like you shouldn't be.
I know, it's still a lot of people, but.
Yeah.
When you're chasing the top, I guess,
chasing the fame.
It's a lot.
Gets risky.
Yeah, it's okay.
Well, what's next for you?
Oh, God.
Two more collabs this week?
Yeah, no, I'm doing, I'm starting a lot of YouTube.
I'm really excited about this,
but YouTube over the years has become a lot less monetizable.
Is that how?
Yeah, the ad revenue's down.
Yeah, I feel like it's pretty low,
but it's where I feel like I should be,
because I feel like it's just enough energy
to exert for a video, and then I can chill.
I like that.
Yesterday I went to a Halloween party,
and I just brought my YouTube video with me.
I just videoed myself and just hung out.
Felt nice and relaxing.
It wasn't like having a chat, watching you the entire time
and having to be on like that all the time.
So I'm excited to start this YouTube journey.
What kind of content you thinking?
I'm thinking just vlog style, you know?
Like I go to this Halloween party, that'll be,
I put up my Christmas tree already.
Wow, that's early.
I know, I love Christmas trees.
I might not decorate my whole house,
but I'll definitely love the Christmas tree
when it becomes cooler outside.
Real or fake tree?
Fake.
Okay.
I've always been a fake tree girl.
Why?
Because I don't want my house to burn down.
Good point.
And I like to reuse my stuff.
I literally just did my Christmas tree
and I put all plastic ornaments on it
and I zip tied them all to the tree.
Zip tied them to the tree.
So then next year I don't have to put anything on.
Oh, you're so lazy.
No, part of the fun is always putting it on.
No, I fucking hated that.
I love it.
Every year I add a new ornament.
Oh, I have a million ornaments though.
Like that's what my family did growing up is they gave
everybody ornaments.
Ants would give everybody an ornament every year.
So I have like 10 million gingerbread men,
like all these like shit that I don't want,
but it can't get rid of because it's like,
Sentimental.
Yes, but no.
Like it's like, I don't even know who gave it to me
at the time, but it's just, yeah.
My growing up, I had to put ornaments on the tree
that were given to me.
And I didn't like that the tree wasn't cohesive.
You got OCD, it sounds like.
No, I just really liked, growing up,
I wasn't a big Kardashian fan or anything,
but I always saw their Christmas trees
that they put in their living rooms and stuff.
I was like, I want a fancy tree like that.
They've inspired a lot of people in many different ways.
Especially women.
Yes.
I know guys that couldn't stop watching that show.
I can probably thank my BBL to their,
what is it, their influence on society.
I can definitely thank my BBL too, probably.
Yeah. Wow.
What other surgeries have you done?
Oh, I've done them all.
Damn.
Yeah.
But I just think it's funny when people don't know.
Some guys are into natural boobs
and they have to ask you if they're natural or not.
Yeah.
To be like, well, are they natural or no?
You can tell by the touch, right?
Yeah, no.
Not for me personally, my boobs feel real.
Wow.
Because my boobs are very fat.
Like they're fat. they were big before.
They just ended up like starting to sag a little bit.
So I got boobs, put the boobs in
and just made them perk up a little bit.
So my boobs are still very soft,
but yeah, you can tell on like very,
very thin girls and stuff like that, for sure.
I can't tell you've gotten a lot in your face.
You can? I can't. Oh, okay, I was like, for sure. I can't tell you've gotten a lot in your face. You can?
I can't.
Oh, okay, I was like, Jesus Christ.
I thought you just said.
But you know someone you could tell?
No, I don't do a lot like that.
Yeah, no, I don't do stuff to my face.
I only do facials and stuff like that.
Not like dirty ones, but.
Well, those too.
Yeah, but yeah, no, I am mainly doing, yeah, like facial treatments.
I don't really get face, I don't get my face cut.
The Botox and stuff?
I might get Botox here and there,
but I don't do it like crazy.
I'm just preventing looking old.
That's what I'm trying to do.
What was the one that makes your lips?
Is that the Botox?
Lip filler.
Lip filler.
I get lip filler too, but.
I can't tell.
Some woman, oh my gosh.
I don't have a lot. I have tiny lips, so I just have a little bit. I get lip filler too, but. I can't tell. Some women, oh my gosh. I don't have a lot.
I have tiny lips, so I just have a little bit.
I never understood the attraction
towards the big fat lips.
Some people's lips look really good though.
When they're that fat and big,
you think they look good?
Some of them don't though.
Some of them look like from the side view,
they're like, it's like this.
Side view is pretty bad.
It's like a duck.
Yeah.
But yeah, I just don't like that.
Like the big upper lip that's sticking out.
Mm-hmm.
So you've got them all.
Is there any on your list that you want?
No, but like I said, done boobs, butt, lipo, arm lipo.
I just got out of arm lipo
and it was the biggest mistake of my life.
Why?
I've never had any issues with surgery until arm lipo. Literally. What happened, I don't know, my arms did not want to recover. Holy crap.
They're bruised up still? I'm yeah, I'm real messed up right now, but yeah. It
doesn't seem like you needed the lipo. I felt I needed it, but yesterday my
assistant goes, I hate to say it, but I don't even realize the difference. I mean.
And I was like, don't fucking say that to me
when I have this giant thing on my arm
and like this arm's all fucked up too.
Just say it looks good.
You're already pretty skinny, so.
No, I'm naturally not a skinny girl.
Really?
Yeah, I'm not a fat girl,
I'm naturally just like a thick girl.
Okay.
Yeah. Certain guys like that though. Yeah, like'm not a fat girl. I'm naturally just like a thick girl. Okay. Yeah certain guys like that though
Yeah, like flat stomach thick flat stomach thick. Yeah, I mean like my stomach's flat, but I'm like so a little thicker
Okay, I got sports player sports player like a like a Serena Williams or yeah, but she's definitely not
Not comparing myself to her but yeah, she's Lena. She's thicker. Yeah, that she's definitely not that, in fact I'm not comparing myself to her.
But yeah, you know how she's thicker?
Yeah. Yeah, that's me.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it comes in waves where like certain guys want thick
and then they want skinny.
Yeah, it goes, right now is the skinny phase.
That's the phase right now.
I'm like, God damn it, bring it back.
You're bringing back the supermodel phase?
No, I'm so sad about that one though,
cause I'm a food addict. I love food. I'm very
much a food addict though I like can't, I
can't say no if you put certain things
in front of me. What's your go-to? Italian?
Yeah but right now I have a problem with
sour punch straws. Oh so candy. I'm having
a really bad candy problem lately. You got a
sweet tooth, you might have a parasite.
You think? Do might have a parasite.
You think? Do you have a sugar craving right now?
I'm so bad with sugar cravings.
I'll introduce you to my parasite girl.
She'll give you a cleanse.
Your sugar cravings will go away.
What?
Yeah, you have a parasite infection.
Crazy, right?
It's common though.
Don't feel like it's a-
How much?
What is it in me? What's in me? Worm shit type of warm? Yeah, but when you have a sweet
Are they like that? No, no, stop. Are they microscopic go back to this warm thing? Uh
Yeah, they're microscopic
They're not big ones. I'm gonna jump off fucking cliff. I don't want any fucking
Parasites inside me. I'll get you right. I had them too. Oh my God, it's so bad though.
It's to a point where like,
like one of my assistants is actually a nurse
and he's like, you're gonna give yourself diabetes
because of how much candy I've been eating lately.
Might have to get your blood tested for it.
Oh, fuck.
Man, as long as it's not worms in my butt hole.
Have you ever seen that before?
No.
Yeah, that's insane.
You saw that?
No, this podcast I used to listen to,
not podcast, it's a radio show, Dave and Chuck the Freak.
I fucking love them.
Their radio show where I grew up.
And they talked about worms in the butthole.
No.
Yeah, it happens to people.
And they said to like, to check, you have to put
a piece of duct tape on your butt.
And then you-
Duct tape on your butt.
Yeah, and then you fall asleep
and then you wake up and you pull the duct tape off,
there'll be some worms on it.
Whoa.
Yeah, or a flashlight to your butthole in the dark.
Have you tested it or?
No, that's my number one fear though.
That's my number one fear.
Whenever my butt is itchy,
I'm like, I better not have
fucking butt worms. That's my like number one fucking... That would affect your work.
Worms? Yeah, that would affect my work. You're right. Oh, gross. Yeah, no, I just... Yeah, no.
I used to have a tapeworm fear. Oh Oh worms are my biggest fear in the world in general
They're out there for me because I was super skinny growing up and I was convinced I had a tapeworm. Oh, yeah
Yeah, I was like 150 pounds
150 pounds at six foot five. Oh, I was like that's not bad at all. That's six
That's way too skinny you could see my rib cage and stuff.
Yeah, no, that's like almost as much as I'm ready.
Yeah, with another foot.
I'm like 140 right now or something.
Most girls don't admit their weight.
I'm a big girl.
I'm a big girl.
I'm not big, but like I'm heavy girl.
You're like the first girl that's just said it
without having to ask.
I'm very sad about it.
I'm not very, I'm open book.
I don't have any secrets at all, not even one.
Well, that's good.
A lot of girls are conscious about their weight.
No, I'm trying to be like, I would love to be like one.
And maybe I'm like actually, no, maybe I am 140.
I'm either 145, 135.
Okay.
But yeah, I don't wanna be, I wanna be like 115.
Damn.
That's good for me. I'd be a little too skinny, I think. Damn. That's like, that's good for me.
I'd be a little too skinny, I think.
I think it's like too skinny if I'm like 105.
Damn, that's skinny.
That's like too skinny, but I've, I've hit 115 before,
which is very not like me.
I was, I was sick at the time and it looked really good.
I was like, Ooh, she's skinny.
That is the one benefit of getting sick.
Yes.
You lose like 10 pounds.
It was so great.
Like for a little bit.
I mean, mind you, it couldn't work.
I couldn't do anything, but you were real skinny.
I was skinny.
What was that? COVID sickness or?
No, it was just anxiety.
I had bad anxiety spurt for like a couple months,
lost a shit ton of weight.
I deal with every, all my fans know,
I deal with mental health, like huge. I couldn't tell, but it's tough just this episode. Yeah. I mean, I deal with all my fans know I deal with mental health like huge
I couldn't tell but it's tough just this episode
Yeah, I mean I deal with it myself. I don't I'm not a like I don't take my mental health out on anybody
But yeah, so it's been a lifelong thing or did it come? Oh, yeah
Lifelong I just got diagnosed bipolar disorder. What? Yeah, my dad had that. Yeah, I don't know. Um, I
Yeah. My dad had that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't have a bad though, you know, and it's very, it affects me only.
Like I don't, I will never be like, ha ha ha at you or anything like that.
It's not, yeah, it's something that just, I'm very, I've been in therapy my whole life,
so I'm very like aware of my mind and stuff.
And I know that it, I'm like, oh, my mental health isn't good right now.
I'll talk to you later, blah, blah, blah.
Take your stuff.
That's good though,
because at least you could recognize
that you're getting injured.
Yeah, I'm very happy I can recognize it, very easily.
A lot of bipolar people can't.
Yes, and that's, it's hard.
Yeah, my dad, like, I was very shy as a kid
because if I said the wrong thing,
he would yell at me or, you know.
That's, yeah, that's, it's definitely in me, like, you that's definitely in me.
Definitely in me.
I went to Halloween Horror Nights last night and I just wanted to yell at everybody because
if it gets too close or people walking by hit your shoulder, you just want to start
a fight with them.
Yeah.
And you're like, no, this is not a normal thought.
It's like road rage, but in person.
Yes, exactly.
It's like you just, you have these irrational thoughts,
like I want to scream at this person,
but you just don't do it, you know?
Cause they're not intentionally doing it.
Yeah, and it's just a lot of it comes down to my brain
and it's only affecting me, everybody else having a good time.
Yeah, I'm not big on crowded places.
I don't go to clubs, bars.
I don't know what happened.
Just, in college I liked it.
Yeah.
But now as I'm older, it's like.
Oh my God, I know, like the Halloween Horror Nights,
I was telling my friends, I was like,
if I went to this when I was younger,
I would have been, this would have been a blast.
Like so much fun.
It was fun as an adult, but like you start getting tired
and you're like, eh, I wanna go home.
I gotta get up in the morning.
You know, all that stuff.
But to go as like a teen with like your boyfriend
like and your friends, that would have been so fun.
It would have been the highlight of the year.
Oh yeah, so fun, but.
Yeah, like with this unruly party coming up,
4,000 people, I'm like, I'm not even going.
Like, you know what I mean?
Yes, yeah, no, it's a lot of people.
I'd rather be home with my dogs and my girl.
Yeah, 100%. Me too, smoking weed. Yeah, I've been smoking a lot of people. I'd rather be home with my dogs and my girl. Yeah a hundred percent me too smoking weed
Yeah, I've been smoking a little lately actually. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I used to not be able to oh yeah anxiety
Oh, huh? Yeah, I get like that if I smoke too much wax wax for sure. Yeah edibles
Oh, you think so, huh? You feel edibles? I don't feel edibles. I'm on Lexapro. Whoa.
If anybody is on Lexapro, they know you'll feel shit,
not even in your vagina sometimes.
I've never heard of that.
What does that do?
Lexapro is like, if you ever talk to somebody
and you're like, they're not there.
They're not mentally there.
They're like a fucking robot or something.
It's usually they're on Lexapro.
So it's like a dissociation? It's very, it just're on Lexapro. So it's like a dissociation?
It's very, it just calms you down.
Oh, it's like the anti-anxiety?
Anti-anxiety, anti-depression, all that stuff.
Damn, you seem to have plenty of emotion here though.
Well, I'm insane.
So this is you dumbed down?
Yes, I'm wild.
So yeah, but all my, if you'd like my aunts are on it and my mom, if you talk to them,
they're like robot, like it's just weird.
It's weird.
When did you start getting on that?
When I was younger, but it's the only thing
that really makes me feel okay, you know?
Only thing that really makes me, I don't know,
kind of feel like I'm at a normal.
Sounds like you need a psychedelic experience.
Oh my God, someone, no, who told me to do that?
Fousey told me to.
I don't know if that's the best person
to be telling you that.
Fousey told me to, what did he say?
Ayahuasca.
He did something somewhere.
I don't think it was Ayahuasca.
Maybe DMT or something fucking weird.
Don't quote me on this anybody,
but if Fousey said something about,
he did some trip.
He's like, oh, it made me feel a lot better.
I'm like, okay, I don't know about that
because I see a lot of this, some stuff everywhere.
But yeah, I always wondered if that would help me,
but I think I have too much anxiety.
I think it would actually do the opposite.
It could go either way.
You could have a really bad trip or you could just.
Be cured for life.
Yeah, unlock all your childhood trauma and release it.
I just don't think I...
I don't think...
I feel like you have to be very chill
and very like ready and open for that
to get that experience.
You need the right mindset, right setting.
I'm not there.
He'll call you one day.
I can literally take like three eighths of shrooms
and not feel anything.
What?
It's because of Lexapro.
Holy crap. It's insane.
So I'm like, I don't even know if any of these experiences
will work for me anyway because of the medicine.
What happens if you didn't take the medicine?
Does that happen?
I always take it.
If I didn't take it, I'd start feeling anxious
and all that stuff.
That's how I was when I was on Xanax.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
That stuff's so bad for you.
Terrible.
Did you, how long were you on it?
Only two months, but I cut it instead of tapering off,
so I had a seizure.
Oh my god, it's insane, right?
Yeah, I almost died from it.
It's insane.
I was on Kalanapin for a year,
and I was trying to get off it for months, months.
I was telling everybody, I'm trying to get off this drug.
It sounds like I'm a drug addict, but I'm prescribed this drug and I'm taking this tiniest dose of it
to try and get off it. And I'm still like, I would be shaking, growing up, having to
call people to get fluids. It's like, how the fuck is this shit even allowed to be prescribed?
They give it like candy. They should not, you should not be allowed
to take that shit for more than a week. Like literally you had a seizure and you had it for two months two months just that's insane
And I was high during the seizure so that that fucked up my relationship with weed. Oh, yeah, that's yeah
No, it's it was horrible. I'd be fine. And then the next day all of a sudden you're shaking
You can't like do anything you feel dying. It was rough. That is so bad. They got my dad, too
He had a seizure at my soccer game
because he was going through withdrawal.
It's so bad and you don't even,
you can't even tell sometimes.
Like you're like, I feel okay today.
And then the next day you're withdrawing.
Yeah, it's quick.
It's like, for me it would like happen like
a couple of weeks later, all of a sudden I'd have a withdrawal.
I'm like, I've been taking the same dose for four.
You got to keep upping it. That's the problem.
It's just insane.
The whole thing is just, if you are considering
taking Kalanapin and Xanax, I would try another
outlet or don't continuously take it.
It should never be continuously taken.
Like we did.
I feel like it's like way too much for your body.
Way too much.
And my memories were wiped.
That's too much.
Oh my God. Yeah. That's another thing too much for your body. And my memories were wiped. That's too much, I don't understand.
That's another thing too is they said that those meds
are like, they can give you dementia.
They literally said that they were like,
you need to get off of this shit, is your memory.
They asked me, like when I came here,
I got a different psychiatrist.
He's like, holy shit,
I can't believe you've been on that for a year.
Yeah, they don't tell you the side effects
when they're prescribing you.
No!
Like you know these things a little bit,
but you don't think that you're gonna get sick
from just taking it as prescribed.
Yeah.
You know, like, it's wild.
Damn.
So the one you take, there's no memory issues?
No, this isn't like, it's not a narcotic
or anything like that.
Oh, okay.
So yeah, I don't take any narcotics.
This one just mellows you out.
Yeah, just like it's a buildup, you know,
like one of those things you have to keep taking
because it stays in your system.
Yeah.
That's cool.
It's okay.
Well, Dan, it's been a fun episode.
Yeah, sorry, we talked about so much random shit.
That's how I think I've ADHD too.
Okay, good.
I'm all over the place,
but anything you want to close off with here?
Nothing, just if you had fun, if you want to follow my Instagram,
I'm the Dan Dangler and everything. The Dan Dangler.
Cool. We'll link your YouTube also.
Cool. Awesome. Perfect. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for watching guys. See you next time.
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