Digital Social Hour - Garrett J. White: The Truth About Masculinity, Marriage & Success | DSH #1999
Episode Date: February 23, 2025🔥 From Lies to Truth: The Wake Up Warrior Revolution w/ Garrett J. White! 🚀 In this episode, we sit down with Garrett J. White, founder of Wake Up Warrior, to break down the real struggles men f...ace today, from marriage and business to personal discipline and self-worth. Garrett doesn’t hold back as he reveals why men are lying to themselves, why relationships are failing, and how to break free from self-deception to live with true purpose. We dive into topics like financial freedom, relationships, overcoming sexless marriages, and why telling the truth is the key to unlocking success. This conversation will challenge everything you thought you knew about life, relationships, masculinity, and success. Key Timestamps 00:00 - The Wake Up Warrior Movement: From Lies to Truth 01:10 - Why Men Struggle With Their Purpose & Success 03:45 - The Hidden Struggles of Young vs. Older Men 06:20 - The Truth About Sexless Marriages & Relationship Failures 10:30 - Can a Marriage Survive Infidelity? Garrett’s Take 14:15 - Why Most Men Are Living a Lie & How to Fix It 18:00 - The Masculinity Crisis & The Shift in Dating Culture 21:45 - The Red Pill Movement vs. True Masculine Power 26:30 - How to Reignite Passion in Your Relationship 31:00 - How Business Leaders Destroy Their Marriages Without Realizing It 36:40 - Why Truth & Self-Accountability Are The Key to Success 42:00 - The Power of Presence & Energy in Business & Relationships 47:50 - Conversations With God: Finding Purpose & Intuition 54:10 - The Wake Up Warrior Method & The Warrior Book 2.0 📲 Follow Garrett & Wake Up Warrior: ➡️ Website: WarriorBook2.com ➡️ Instagram: @garrettjwhite 🔥 APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application 📩 BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com
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Warrior as a process became a commitment to helping guys shift from lying to living.
Guys will lie about how much money they want. They'll lie about the situation with their kids.
And they just lie. So the first wave is how do you get guys to tell the truth?
How do you know what to believe and what not to believe? Yeah, there's a lot of information you
see. That's a good question. I mean, there's a lot of bullshit too. Like how do you know? Like if you
want on social media, go on TikTok, go on Instagram, you want any news outlet, how do you know when you're
reading bullshit or you're not reading bullshit? Right. How do you know if your beliefs are right or
they're wrong? How do we even know what truth is?
So we stripped away the word truth because it was just all over the place.
We just said, what are the facts?
Alright, guys.
Garrett J. White here from Wake Up Warrior.
We are in Las Vegas.
This man's about to speak in front of 5,000 people.
Thanks for coming on.
I appreciate it, man.
I'm excited to be here.
Yeah, we've been talking for a while trying to set this up.
Yeah, I know.
It's been a minute.
We were in California and then moved to Miami
and now we're in Vegas and here we go.
Yeah, you're doing God's work helping these men out, man.
So thank you for that.
Oh, going a big way.
Appreciate it.
What are some common issues you're seeing
with these young men these days?
Oh, well, here, I mean, dude,
well, you got the young men issues
and then you got the old men issues, right?
These are two different issues,
but they're all brewing in a very similar fashion. The genesis all of it is lying so like no matter how you look at it like
the young guys in the 20s are facing situations we don't have none of us in our 40s and 50s
faced and then you have situations that we're facing as a consequence of the way we were
raised that are now trying to heal so like it's like how do you get the young men who
see truth actually better than old men?
Hmm like social media and digital the digital world has created an ability for my kids to debate shit with me
Like we could you can debate shit because you guys have access all this I mean you got chat GBT
You've got all the social media
My kids keep me more updated on politics and I can't even keep myself up there on politics from tik tok
Now don't know how ground worthy that content is.
What did we have?
We had the encyclopedia botanica
and none of us fucking read.
So like we weren't gonna read the encyclopedia.
We knew our world at that time
was like this really small singular thing.
So whatever mom and dad said
and what you knew in your neighborhood
and what you knew at your school, that was it.
We didn't even know people at other schools.
The idea of traveling,
the idea that other dudes were rich,
you didn't have point of view. We had nothing. We were poor. We grew up with other poor kids. We went to the same school.
We didn't see anything else. We didn't have anything to cross-reference it against. You guys
get to see all the young dudes with bagatis and Ferraris and all the money and the wealth and the
possibility. So it's a blessing for the young men because they get to see this a possibility
we never could see. We just could, we had no possibility, it was just who you know.
That's why there's so many more wealthy young people than there were when we grew up.
Technology's allowed that, but also just the perspective.
The older guys though are fucked in a different way.
So the fuck over here is, is that nothing's ever good enough for the young guys.
And everybody thinks they should have all the shit right now.
I'm 25, I should drive Ferraris and Lamborghinis
because I saw 25 guys around the world who are doing this.
That is not the experience of 99% of young men,
but they all feel like they should.
The boys are also trapped there because these women,
their age, are now dating guys my age.
So they're trapped in a dating chaotic place too
because like, well, how do I deal with this over here?
Because most of what girls my age are hanging out with guys that are two decades older me and let's phrase it a
28 year old guy is not gonna compete with a 52 year old who's bankroll and hundreds of millions of dollars
Like there's no competition. That's the wisdom the experience the patience
This guy's young guys gonna be triggered a shit young
Stallion and the old guys like hey, hey bro, I wanna play this game.
This girl's fun.
They don't react to the same shit with these young girls.
So you're seeing this weird thing unfold,
but our focus has really been trying to help married dudes.
Although the principles of the Boys Way work for all guys.
It's how do you help a married guy
who has been married for 20 years, 15 years,
he's got two, three, four kids.
He's running a business.
He has a wife.
He has kids.
He's entered what we call the trifecta of insanity.
And it's tough because the kids today,
trying to raise children today is insane
because it's totally different.
Any counselor, our parents gave us out the window.
My mom's 74, her counselors just take their phones away.
Like yeah, and then you're gonna trigger anxiety in my wife
because now she can't get ahold of her kids
and she's only war.
And then you had this other scenario of the fact
that there's no guidance system.
Like what's a guy to do?
How is he supposed to lead?
He has to make more money, clear,
but he's gotta keep his wife interested
and seduce and attract his wife.
But most of these relationships go
dead so the guy controls the one thing he can control which is make money.
But then the wife feels disconnected which is why we have the highest cheating and affairs
executed by women than has ever existed.
60-70% of divorces of men over 40 are being filed by women who are leaving their men.
It's not dudes who are cheating and leaving.
Most of the standards in the last like month
I'll take the take the guys I've talked to have been in a fair situations
90% of them the woman cheated Wow and when a dude's cheated on
Who's been in a relationship for 20 years?
And he's been raising the kids with his wife and he's been building this and then his wife cheats because he's working to try
to provide but he doesn't know how to connect so she fucks the jujitsu instructor or
Fucks the bull guy or does this thing over here if they're shattered
Tom Brady completely Tom Brady. I mean you gotta ask yourself. What are you letting your wife roll around with a jujitsu instructor ever? That's
Probably I'm like my wife's right here in the room. I'm not I'm not cosigning that deal
So it's it's tough and it's a challenge
We've been facing and some we've been fixing it for the last like 13 years
and it's working, like working in a tremendous way
with what we've done.
But it all comes back down to the same thing.
Can you get people to tell the truth?
Is it, can I get you Sam to own the full truth
of your world?
Just what is it?
Now your generation likes to talk about truth
and they do it well. They want to expose the lies everywhere and
That's powerful. Hmm. The question is once I expose the lies in myself
So most people expose the lies and everyone else right? Oh look at Sam. I found this shit out about him. I knew it
Meanwhile, they ignore all the bullshit that's going on in them. That's all social media commenting
Just fucking chaos of people just projection its It's ice warm people are just full of shit hate their lives miserable with themselves
Here's my purpose. Oh, i'll just persecute sam
Because I don't like his hair. I don't like his glasses when in truth when I look in the mirror. All I see is
A worthless piece of shit that's not doing anything with his life. And so instead of confronting that truth
I'm going to just point it at you
Married guys don't do that. The older dudes don't fucking around social media
They just projected on their wives
So all the pain all the pressure there'll be one way in business and come home and dump it on her
Dump it on the kids and that's what I did man. You know any other way. It's called reactivity and
It's very reactivity.
And it's very difficult.
Because you've got guys who have been scarred for decades
trying to figure this game out.
Sexless marriages, horrendously high.
Like these are people having, these guys are married,
they've committed to one vagina
and they're having sex once every two to three weeks.
And when they're having it, it's vaginal masturbation.
But dudes are driven by sex.
Period.
Doesn't matter if you're taking tea or not. Right?
Guys want to have sex and
men who are married want to have sex with their wives. The problem is
most guys have fucked this up so bad in how they've dealt with their wife
that she has shut down and turned off.
So then comes the next challenge, these guys get a horse.
And this woman they were with, who was pushing away sex forever, all of a sudden becomes
a complete slut.
Fucks nine guys in the next two months, goes to the gym, gets fit, and he's looking at
me going, what the fuck?
All I wanted was to have sex with this woman.
I chose her. And now she's down the street having sex with dudes at the bar going to the fucking club going to parties with
her friends acting like she's 20 years old and fucking everybody and
that
Was the truth we revealed it warrior which is inside every woman
Every woman not one exception is a slut and a stripper
But we look at slut as a bad conversation
It just means a woman that wants to come and have sex. She wants to be sexual
That's a technical definition of being a slut. That's what we just made it such a bad thing
But women want it my wife and I sat in therapy
like 2016
And we were at this breaking point with sex and intimacy because I was like this thing's either going to turn or we're going to be done.
Now my wife came back to me like two years ago and confronted me and said you're either
going to shift this way or we're fucking done.
But I put it online and said I want sex and that's a hard part for guys to acknowledge.
She's like I want to have sex.
As weird as it sounds.
Yeah they're like ashamed to say that right completely it feels weird
you're like so guys will put off like it doesn't really matter it doesn't matter and if you do that
with money you don't make any money if you do a sex you don't have sex so the first thing i'd come
to terms with okay sex matters to me so guys are coming to our programs and then sexless relationships
or shitty sex it's not happening or they're being rejected for a decade.
We're like, all right, do you want sex?
We're just looking at it and they're like, I guess I'll just sit.
And there's always a pause.
I'm like, what are you thinking about?
Like this is there should be no pause between the fact that you should ask if you want to
have sex.
You're a guy.
God put sensory organ on the tip of your penis that wants to penetrate things, feel nice
and come.
This is natural.
This is God-driven.
We didn't create these penises.
I didn't create the sexual desire.
I didn't create that when a woman with nice sits and ass walks by that I all of a sudden
think sexual thoughts and I get triggered by it.
I didn't create this.
I'm not the creator of this body.
I just got one.
So, if you can acknowledge it,
now we have a chance to start moving.
So I had to acknowledge it.
And I confronted it with Danielle.
And I put our marriage online.
I said, if sex doesn't improve,
and we don't start finding a way for this
to be normal and natural, I'm out.
So she said, okay, we'll go to therapy.
So we went to therapy.
We're sitting on the couches,
and for years I've been saying to my wife,
she doesn't want sex. My wife doesn't even want sex. She doesn't to my wife. She doesn't want sex. My wife doesn't want sex. She didn't want sex
She didn't want it. She didn't want it
I'll be projecting all of this prophesying over my wife and we're sitting therapy and she shatters my frame
So I don't like eight nine sessions in she's a one into the couch. I'm the other end of the couch
She looks across at the therapist and she says I I wanna fuck. I wanna have great sex.
I wanna cum.
I just don't wanna fuck him.
And she points to me.
I'm like,
that's our truth.
I'm like, well, what does that mean?
How do I restore that for me?
If she wants it, she doesn't want it with me. This right here is the dilemma
that all men married men face. These women want to unleash. That's why they can leave
the relationship or they can cheat with another guy. And that guy has something she's been
looking for which is he sees her. Now, to his advantage at the gym, when he's all jacked and juicy and she's rolling
in on her tight pants and she feels seen, this dude doesn't have to deal with her on
her period, doesn't have to deal with her and the kids, doesn't have to deal with two
decades of bullshit, nothing. He just gets to be hot six pack guy at the gym who notices
her and gives her some attention as she feels seen. So, in the end, this decision has to be made
and the woman has to be seen,
but the woman can't be seen if the man is not seen.
You can't see her if you can't see yourself.
So, warrior as a process became a commitment
to helping guys shift from lying to living.
How do I make that shift for myself?
How do I go from this place of
lying about things like sex? Guys will lie about how much money they want. They'll
lie about the situation with their kids and they just lie. And so the first wave
is how do you get guys to tell the truth? You seem like a pretty honest guy.
Pretty straightforward, yeah. Yeah. So what do you find is the path for you?
How do you live in truth?
How do you find your bearings in a world
filled with so much information and noise?
How old are you?
27.
Yeah, you're right on the pocket.
You're in that pocket, my son's 25.
I hang around with almost always,
all of like just late 20-year-olds.
I left with late 20-year-olds,
and I'm a witness to what you guys see.
And you do, you guys all do fundamentally,
live in more truth than most of the guys over 40. But how
do you find your bearings? How do you know what to believe and what not to
believe? Yeah, there's a lot of information these days. That's a good question. I mean there's a lot of bullshit too.
Like how do you know? Like if you're on social media, going to TikTok, go on Instagram,
you go on any news outlet, how do you know when you're reading bullshit or
you're not reading bullshit? Right. How do you know if your beliefs are right or they're wrong?
How do we even know that truth is?
So we stripped away the word truth because it was just all over the place when you say what are the facts?
So facts became our divider we said people said freedom deal truth will set you free
That's problem though what you call true at 27 you will not call true at 37
Right what you thought was the way at 27 will not be the way at 37, but what you're doing now
we'll get you to 37 and
When you're my age 20 years from now and you got some kids
The world changes once a baby enters the world totally different
So this game of facts became the foundation. How do I build a foundation of facts in my life?
That allow me to be in a place of my truth? Not the world's truth, just what's my truth.
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Which your truth and my truth can be totally different.
Right.
You see the world one way, you're 27.
You see it one way, I'm 48.
I see it another way.
Both of us can be right at the same time.
What everybody gets fucked up on is they say,
well, this is how it is and Sam, you need to see it this way.
And you're like, I don't see it that way, bro.
I read 47 podcasts every 45 minutes and this is how I do life. And I'm like, the fuck? That's how I do it. Which way is right? They're both right. So getting a guy to come into truth and see his facts is like your facts are what they are. Here's what your body looks like. Take your clothes off and stand in the mirror. What do you see? What are the
facts of your behaviors with your body tell you? Andy Elliott does a great job with that.
He does. And by the way, I went to his place in Skowelstil and was like, let's see how
committed he is to this six pack game. There's one fat dude, that's it. And he was a dude
who had just hired for camera gun. And I asked him, I said, so you're the anomaly here. There's
like 150 people on the campus. Everybody was either lean and shredded or jacked and juiced.
Wow.
Everyone.
It was fucking crazy.
Everyone.
His standards legit.
And I said, how did you get on the team, bro?
He's like, they gave me six months.
He's like, I have to lose all this.
I'm 22 pounds and I have to lose all this or I get fired.
I was like, cool.
So your body is a place.
How do I deal with that?
In your 20s is it's one thing.
After two and a half decades of running businesses
and having children and being married,
most dudes just give up.
My age group almost 50,
it's a fucking bloodbath of fat dudes.
Yeah.
Just all the casinos around here
are filled with dudes in suits and meetings.
Every single one of them wearing suits
because they're covering up 30 to 35 pounds of body fat.
They don't like what they look like. They don't like how they feel, but the world's giving them a hall pass.
Because of money.
Because of money. You made money. You're good. Even women will give them a hall pass.
Oh, you make money, you're good. But that piece and owning that piece is part of the bigger picture of what we play at Warrior.
Because your body is part of the big picture of your dominion as a man.
How do you discipline your body? How do you deal because your body is part of the big picture of your dominion as a man how do you discipline your body how do you deal with your body second piece
is being like what is truth for you with God can you communicate with God now do
you go to church not do you read the Bible not do you read your worship books
do you talk to God and this is truth for most every guy 100% they come in they may worship God be deep Christians may be
Jewish and me whatever and they're deep in their faith and they don't talk to God
So we warrior found a way through tools called prayer stacking and bible stacking to guide men in truth
by themselves
Not me talking to him not me telling them what the- I'm gonna be
God right now, I'm gonna tell you what God's saying.
Well God told me to tell you this, no no no, just Sam alone, no one's in the studio, everybody's
gone and Sam has the ability to put his truth on the altar with God.
Here's where the fuck I'm at right now.
This is what I'm thinking.
Right wrong or indifferent, happy, sad, angry, pissed off, doesn't matter.
Here's what I'm fucking feeling.
Here's the truth of where I'm at.
Here's the facts of it. Here are the feelings of it.
Here's been the focus that got me to this place.
And then being able to enter into a sacred place of conversation.
Have you ever read the book Conversations with God?
No.
It's fantastic.
A guy named Neil Donnell Walsh wrote this book.
He has a series of like eight or nine of them.
First time I read this book was in 2009 after I'd lost everything in banking. And it was the
first time I'd ever considered that I could talk to God. Now it would take years,
psychedelic work, meditation, therapy, all kinds of work on myself, every one of
Tony's events, all these breakthrough experiences to try to find
this pathway to this conversation.
The only thing that's changed now is with technology
and with what we know after 70,000 guys on our programs,
we know how to get guys there in less than three weeks.
Wow.
Don't give a fuck who you are.
Don't care how big you are.
I don't care if you're black, white, Asian, Latino,
doesn't matter.
In less than three weeks, we can get you into a place
where you're having daily conversation with God.
That's insane.
And people say, why, why does that matter?
Who cares?
Because the greatest mentor that ever existed
is God's intuition in you.
God's voice in you.
Like, how did you even decide to launch your show?
How did that happen?
Something must have planted a seed in me.
Hey, you saw it somewhere, like,
do you remember the day you decided I'm going to launch a digital social hour and
be going with the top podcasters in the game?
I mean you've only been doing this three years.
It's incredible.
But there was a genesis for that thought and that thought didn't come from outside of you, it came from inside of you.
Do you remember when it was?
Yeah.
Was it like a weekend? Were you like having a moment?
Were you on a podcast and you thought?
It was during my lowest moment
Actually, we're in a dark place. Yeah, what was going on? Just no purpose in life
I had a ton of money, but no friends no family support and
No meaning at the time. It's heavy. Yeah, just a ton of cash and I didn't even know what to do
Yeah
we were driving around at Golden Beach where we moved to Miami and I took the whole week off for Christmas and
We had that we got this golf cart with like six seats on it.
My wife thought it was too big but I was like, no, we're going to roll the whole crew in
and it'll be good so we can drive to the neighbor and go to the private beach where we live.
And we'd been doing this for like five or six days straight and I didn't work at all,
I didn't do anything.
About like the sixth day I was like, if this was my life, I'd fucking shoot myself in less
than a month.
Like this is horrible.
And people are like, how is that possible?
You have all the cars you want,
you have a beautiful wife, you have a beautiful house,
you've got all the things, you've got all the impact,
you've got all the influence,
you've got all these things, you don't run big events,
you don't influence all these people.
And yeah, for that week I had a purpose
that was amazing for about four days.
Which is pouring on my kids and my wife.
So guys tell me, my only purpose of life
is to pour my children and my wife,
or my children and my wife, liars.
It doesn't last.
Yeah, I don't buy that.
Don't buy it, because it's bullshit.
And the only people that say it are typically broke dudes
who can't make money.
It's like somebody coming to you and saying,
well, I would never have the cars or the house that you have,
and you're like, well, that's because you can't buy them. If you could buy them and told me that we'd have to live in conversation. Mm-hmm
So when you have all of that
Darkness comes at the peak
This was what people don't see
They think the darkness is somehow that we get into the pits and life is guys because something's all fucked up
That we're not doing anything, right? We can get into a pit when things like are bad
But we can be at a peak where you obtained the wealth
At like 24 and you're like I've just I just fucking won the game better than 98% of any old dude on the planet
I'm financially free and here you are at this peak
free
Free financially by all strokes of imagination. You should be the fucking guy
But to you you felt like what?
I was sleeping 12 hours a day waking up groggy
Didn't know what to do on a daily basis
Honestly, and so the default to that when you get to the peak and it starts the new becomes normal and the normal becomes numb.
We start sedating. Yup.
Or we say, okay, I need to get more money.
That's the problem.
If I get more money.
Or if I get a really hot, super hot girlfriend,
then I'll be happy. And then you get that super hot girlfriend then I'll be happy and then you get that
super hot girlfriend with the tits you always wanted and the ass you always
wanted and tells you everything laughs at all your fucking jokes and thinks you're
the greatest thing ever and guess what she'll become normal and then you'll
become numb and then you'll be back to or you think he can fuck your way to
happy that's a lot of the young guys now too.
And now the old guys.
Maybe if I just put my penis in a hundred vaginas, I'll be happy.
Maybe if I come on five women's faces, I'll feel happy.
And it never ends.
So this process of happy in our guys' lives is about the journey between these two places knowing that no matter where you get
There's another place and the point isn't to get
To have is to be free
But freedom comes with what you do with the bug ass, which is you let go. Yeah, you said here's my life
It's working. And now I'm at this peak. I should be happy, but I'm being honest with myself.
I'm not fucking happy. So I've got to- my facts are I have money. I should be happy, but I'm not happy.
I don't have family support. I don't have friends. I don't have a life that I want. This fucking sucks.
And you can arrive at that place at every level.
I'm a billionaire, they arrive at that place.
They have everything, beautiful women, cars, everything.
And they're fucking miserable.
Because the same thing, purpose of this life
is eternal expansion.
This podcast puts you into an eternal expansion.
Guess what, you'll probably get to a point in this podcast,
you'll be like, you know what, fuck this podcast.
I don't wanna do this anymore. I'm burned out doing there this many interviews and
Then you'll be in another choice. Mm-hmm. Which is like okay my way to freedom is to let go
But scary it is yeah letting go scary so when you launched this show
You got the idea in the darkness
To create it. What was the thing that you saw that pulled you forward?
The conversations felt impactful.
You know what I mean?
It felt like a lot of value was being created from the conversations.
And then I would get messages and I would get people coming up to me saying I changed
their life.
And I was like, wow, no business I ever started before this did that you know what I mean it was all about myself it was just selfishness trying
to stack dough but this business is like yeah I'm stacking some dough but I'm also impacting
a lot of people yeah this is the shift that shift right there and the fact that you're
making this shift in your 20s is fucking ridiculous because most guys get trapped in this game and then they wake
up in these massive prisons in 40s and 50s only now they've got the family the
kids the wife and the life and they're sitting in this place going I fucking
hate my life and now half my life is over
Richard Rohr wrote a book called fallinging Upwards and he's a Francine monk in
the Catholic Church. Very good author and he writes this concept about how men when
they start to hit their 40s and 50s will start to enter the stage that you entered in your
20s which interestingly enough though, it's sliding down. Technology slid it down. That's
why you're seeing midlife crisis with young guys in their late 20s. Mm-hmm
Bro, we weren't we couldn't fucking spelled our names in our early 20s. We were fucking idiots
Compared to how smart you guys we were stupid
The thing we did have is we had Street Savage
We just worked
We didn't have this idea that you should just be retired
No, we just worked so that was was the only way to do it. You just fucking grind. That's why you see so much
of the grind, grind, grind from the older dudes. And they're like, what the fuck are
you doing video game generation? Fucking work. And then you have the young generation over
here like, I want to feel happy. I don't really want to do that. That's not aligned with my
purpose. I don't feel the vibe in this. That's not Riz at all or whatever the fuck the word is my kids are using period bet
whatever the hell else my daughter's tell me all the time and
That's healthy
If it's applied to work
So this conversation with God is what happened to you
Without me knowing yeah, I think you're right and that's it always has been. We don't even know what's happening.
Inspiration from the inside to build something great.
A life that's great, a podcast that you're doing.
All is driven by this thing inside of us.
But most of us are looking out here.
See, even listening to this show, the show is to show, but the show is there as a trigger to activate things inside of you.
That's why you feel such a reward from doing it's why I do what I do
If I wanted to just make money
Leading men is not the easiest path. I was
Insurance and financial services is my game. I would just sell insurance and sell hair with my wife
Tell the world to fuck off and go to parties. That's it way more money way less stress
But guess where I'd end up in the same black pit you were in
No sense of purpose because there's no service
And the only way in the second chapter of life to be able to feel that life matters is to begin to give back
It's to serve Coach guide inspire mentor. That's why there's so many people not getting it.
Your fastest path to become the next version to you was to create this. This was all about you.
It wasn't about me being on the show or any of the thousands of people. How many been on the show so far?
1400.
1400 people. It wasn't about them. It was about you. You created a game that we all got to play in
to help you.
Wow, that's deep.
But you're right though, it is a form of therapy for me.
100%, because I know what it is to work
and talk to that many people too.
70,000 coaches.
You can get to hear their stories
and you see their fucked up shit and their great shit.
And the whole time, guess who's learning?
You.
And who else?
You as the host have the greatest advantage
of anyone on the show.
Because every day, you get to have people
who have done some shit, fucked up a bunch of shit,
roll in here with you, and you get to hear wisdom
poured out as you're taking notes on your page. It's beautiful
This is what happened to me. Mm-hmm. My life got better because I got a look into the lives of 70,000 men
Next week almost a hundred of my top guys were rolling to Miami
I need to see into their businesses into their marriages into their children's lives into their money into their spirituality into their body
I get to see into the world and I see how they're fucking it up. Once you see it so much
You start to see patterns. Mm-hmm. Just like mass data gives us patterns
Algorithms are patterns. We see patterns in what's happening the universe of perfect pattern
Doing podcasts of rhythm a pattern you found your rhythm in a big way after 1400 shows to have this many by a variety of topics
This is our variety of people. It's
not like you're down one niche of people like you. I've went and checked out a whole bunch
of dude you fuck got people all over the goddamn map of doing doing shows here. Yeah. And yet
somehow you have put yourself at the source core of an epicenter that draws in men like
me to your world to deliver gifts
no different than the wise men coming to Jesus.
Here's your gift.
Here's the wisdom now.
Take that wisdom, share it with the world.
You're more significant than all of us in your kingdom.
I just stepped into your kingdom.
You are the king of this place.
I'm just a visitor from Kingdom Warrior saying, great job.
Wow, what a mindset.
You really are good at putting your ego to the side.
That's impressive, man.
It's-
Because you're doing bigger things than me, like on paper,
like revenue wise and everything,
but you're saying this to me.
It's impressive to me.
Well, you gotta look at your age, my guy.
This is what I tried to tell my son he's 25,
and he has the pressure on him of trying to be me now.
But if you compare it, you take Grant Cardone,
all the big dudes you've had on here,
take all those dudes at 27, fuck off.
None of us were doing shit like you are.
Jesus said something interesting.
People miss it. He's talking with his apostles and he's like,
listen, I know you guys are impressed about the fact that I can turn that water into wine. I can
make that bread and fish become a whole bunch to feed all the 5,000 people. I can put some mud on
the eyes and help things work. People could touch my robe and they get healed. I know you've seen
me do some cool shit. Here's the Catch 22. Are you ready? Everything you've seen me do,
you're going to do even greater things.
You can broadcast a message, this is wild, listen to this.
You have the capacity to broadcast a message
with more distance than Jesus did.
Wow.
That's crazy to think about, right?
Jesus didn't have social media, he didn You know podcasts. They were gathering 5,000
How many downloads on the show every month?
Tens of millions exactly you reach more people in one week than Jesus made his entire ministry
It's fucking crazy. I'm like okay, so there's some truth to this they say well
What am I saying what am I sharing and that's where the purpose parking thing?
Once you get the paid
The typical second thing for guys they want to get laid
Which leads to balance and it's like okay. Well my body where I'm at my relationship with God where I'm at, okay
Where I'm at with my wife, so I got an issue question for you. Yeah, what young dudes
I'm not gonna put quite there cuz I think it's a little bit different young dudes
Why do you think older guys go to porn?
Go to porn.
Because like you said earlier, sexless marriages, they still want to get some sexual activity.
So it's definitely like, I want to come, right?
Some of that.
That's definitely true.
There's some other things, so what else do you think?
Insecurity?
The body?
Physical health?
For sure. So they don't feel comfortable even
There's dudes so overweight in their marriage. They're embarrassed to even have sex with their wife
Wow, and somebody's these are married to pretty hot women and some of those women want to fuck so they don't care
They're just gonna get on anyways and some of these women are just like this. I what's happening. It's also easy to access super easy
It's everywhere dude. I mean fuck Instagram Instagram has more asses on it
Then we could access and like bra ads and sports Illustrated when we were young you had to have somebody's dad or brother who?
Stocked up playboys and some little little chest of drawers over here that we could find no hell
No, you guys turn your fucking phones on you got the most graphic shit all day long and the stuff on Instagram
They wouldn't even put on swimsuit magazines when I was growing up. Wow. And all day long you guys are being
bombarded by asses and tits and sex and sexual innuendos. What did I say dude?
We didn't have any of that. You had to go hunting for it. Dudes would jerk off to bra ads in the
JCPenney magazine. Like that was the content we were working with. You guys
are like, oh it's a born hub. I want to see two Colombian girls with one black dude and throwing a donkey
You're like shit. There it is
So there's this desire though that we found for older guys
It's why like blowjobs. Why I always do the blowjobs first. Why I think it's easy. It's easy, right? It's a pattern
It's what porn is taught. It starts a blowjob. I go something else
Yeah
But well think I came to find based on my guys and what I saw the last 13 years
There's that looking of the eyes
submission by woman and
longing
participation
Now it could all be an act and it probably isn't sometimes, it's probably not. All big actors and characters play in a role.
But what a man's really after in porn is a feeling of being desired and wanted.
These women in these porn's display the attitude of, I want to devour this man's cock.
I want to be unleashed with this man.
And most dudes in marriage, oh that shit is not ever happening.
It's like our girls in where we call it pin cushion sex,
our guys call it vaginal masturbation.
Where you're actually having to pump your wife's hips
to cause stimulation.
At that point it's probably better off
to just go jerk off in the toilet with porn hove.
At least you don't feel like such a piece of shit.
So balance and getting to the core truth of that deal with kids it's hard so much
guilt and shame for guys yeah and on my generation 40% of us are virgins
isn't that crazy craziness super high super crazy that's like almost a coin
flip yeah and this piece of looking in your world like as a parent like I'm
gonna be your dad and there I could be your father if I'm sitting with you and in this generation with what you're facing
The truth is we don't have answers for you, but we have principles for you
Because the application of this in your world is so different at 48 raising five kids with a wife
Is a totally different situation. Are you single? No About to get married you engaged. Yeah
Wow eight years in man Wow
Yeah, but I see my single friend struggling, bro
I'm so happy cuz that's a full-time job full-time days full and it's pure insanity. It's chaos
Yeah, especially in a major city cuz so patience on both sides. But yeah with the females. It's insane
I watch it happen in Miami. Oh, Miami is one of the females, it's insane, man. Why'd you happen in Miami?
Oh, Miami is one of the worst.
Miami is horrendous for this for the young guys.
Horrendous.
Like, I don't even know how they could try to compete.
If you don't have money in Miami, you're screwed.
You don't get anything.
Yeah? And that's the unfortunate part for your entire generation.
Money, like it was for us, it's only exponentially more expanded as a standard.
We knew that you needed to make money,
but dude, we weren't, girls were about us
and we were making like 40 grand a year.
Like if you had like a couple thousand bucks a month,
you were rolling.
Nobody running in super cars at fucking 20.
We just saw super cars on movies.
Nobody had that shit.
No one.
College was totally different than what college is now.
It's all just different.
It's all different.
And your whole generation's like,
you know what, I'm not even gonna play this game.
So how did you decide to get engaged?
I knew, I mean, we were six years in
and no one else I really cared about, dude.
It was so easy.
I knew way earlier I was
just kind of putting it off because I was focused on making money because I want to
have kids so I want us to be financially stable.
Yeah are you there?
Yeah we're there. I mean it's all relative. Got a house now so.
Good. When are you guys getting married?
October.
This year?
Yeah this year.
Did you guys pick a place yet?
Yeah we met in Jersey so we're doing it there.
Okay. I'm excited man. Big step in Jersey, so we're doing it there. Okay.
I'm excited, man.
Big step in my life, for sure.
It's gonna change.
It's gonna change.
Even when you've been with her for six, seven, eight years,
even being with her, when you got engaged,
did you notice the difference?
There was a slight difference, yeah.
It was a little more intense, I'd say.
Yeah, were you guys living together before that?
Yeah. Okay.
That was a big change.
Well, Drew, you go from dating to living together
to engaged to married. The jump from dating to living together to engaged to married?
Then the jump from engaged to married is the biggest.
Really?
Yeah.
There's it changes.
That's why I got that we've got we've guys on programs have been with a woman for 20 years not married have four kids
We're like, why are you not married? Well, you know, I just you know, we don't believe in legal paper
I'm like, I understand. I understand that but are you committed to this woman or you're not committed to this woman? I don't care in legal paper. I'm like I understand I understand that but did are you committed to this woman?
Are you not committed this woman? I don't care about the legal papers either
I'm saying did you have a ceremony that said I'm committed publicly to your family friends that you're in this you girl
He's like no I said then you don't know
One of the guys came work for me just started like four or five months ago. He's been with her for ten years
I was like dude
If you're gonna be working here either get engaged and get married or break up or you're not working here.
Wow.
That's my version of six pack.
That's your standard, huh?
I'm like, if you're gonna have babies with this woman, which you did too, and you're gonna be with her for ten years,
and then you're gonna come into my program and support my guys, and you're gonna be a guy who can't make a fucking decision,
that's not gonna work.
Mmm.
So two weeks into it, got engaged, they're getting married this year.
Same thing you felt. I married one of my guys last year,
I married six of my guys this year.
All that went through divorces and getting remarried
and asked me to be the ceremony,
the guy doing the ceremony.
Same thing everyone.
I'm at the weddings, I watch it happen.
We've had hundreds of guys get married
over the last 10 years.
Once you're married, commitment creates a container.
It changes. Yeah, I'm excited, man creates a container. It changes.
Yeah, I'm excited, man.
I did wanna ask this.
When the female cheats,
do you think there is coming back from that?
Oh yeah, there's definitely coming back, for sure.
There's, I mean, we've created entire lines of programs
to help those guys,
because it's a different psychological shift.
It just is.
Because physicality for us,
like the inverse of this, which is wild wild if you take a guy who cheats and
It was just a stripper or it was some random one night
It's not that the woman I in the relationship is it's not as damaging
to the emotional psyche of this woman most cases mm-hmm, but if that guy is
Emotionally bonded to this other woman and spends time with her and doesn't
have sex with her, it's more damaging.
Wow.
Because of the emotional factor with women.
It's like you had a relationship with this person.
Now flip the script for guys.
Guys communicate, then they want to have sex, then they want to be intimate.
Meaning I'll be open and free as long as I can come.
If I can come and it's happening enough,
I'll be very open and spacious with you.
But for women, communicate intimacy,
then I want to fuck you.
Guys are like, I feel seen when you fuck me.
Women are like, I want to fuck you when I feel seen.
Got completely jacked the coat up on purpose.
So you have this come in and if a guy's in that place
and his woman cheats physically,
even if it was just a one-eyed stand,
it's hard on a guy because the physical act of sex
is the primary drive for guys.
So when a woman does this, it's different.
It shatters them different.
Doesn't mean that women don't get shattered with affairs.
But dudes get shattered different
because the guy's psyche and ego is just built different.
A lot of these guys will plummet,
particularly when they're older.
Because this happens, they're like,
what does this mean to my life?
We had a guy in one of our programs,
his wife had been cheating for 17 years.
Damn.
In seven or eight different relationships.
Holy crap.
And then he found out.
And by the way, this is more common than you would seem.
It's not high statistics, but 10 to 15% of our guys have been through that situation where the wife who's been cheating
for multiple years, and these guys don't know. And I'm like, how do you not know, bro? And
they don't know because they lied to themselves. And when you lie to yourself, you can't see.
If I lied to myself, you can tell me lies. I'll believe them
But if I'm stripping myself of my lies every day you try to lie I feel through your life
So the only way I cannot get cheated on and not know is because you shut off the internal mechanism of knowing right
you're been a situation we girl were like
Shouldn't have to say something that you just know something's up It's hard to person you feel it Have you ever been like where you got a text from her but you hadn't even read it yet but
you could feel the energy of it?
Oh yeah.
Like she's pissed or she's happy or she's whatever?
Yeah you know.
Have you ever been there just thinking about her and a text comes in or you're thinking
about somebody and like a text comes in?
Yup.
Same shit.
But my wife does this all the time.
I think she's a witch.
She's got like a superpower with it.
But it's this process of like how, how does someone know this?
It's from intuition.
It's like this God inside of us knows.
Like knows.
That's why you and I can say here's a different show.
The feeling is different.
I know because I watch your shows.
Because it's not just us in the show right now.
What else is here?
Our wives? Yeah. Our else is here? Our wives.
Yeah.
Our wives are here and our thoughts.
My wife's actually in the room.
But what else is here?
I could go loud and rowdy with you, but there's no reason to go loud and rowdy with you.
What else is the feeling here?
Hmm.
Not sure.
What is it?
What do you feel?
Feel the energy. Yeah. It's energy.
People call it energy, people call it God, people call it Holy Spirit, people call it all kinds of things.
Yeah.
When we feel connected, we have this energy.
That connection only happens in truth.
You share truth, I share truth, you share truth, I share truth, we feel connected.
So the minute a man disconnects from truth, the energy goes away.
So he can do all the right things with his wife and she still doesn't feel him.
Wow.
That was my wife two years ago.
She came to me two years ago and said, very direct.
This is the problem with this. This is the problem with truth and living in facts is it, if you're going to
deliver them to your partner you're going to deliver them
to your partner, get ready to receive them.
So she came to me at the time I was in a, you take these little blue feel free tonics.
I thought they were a good solution not to drink alcohol so I was like, I'm going to
try these.
I'm an old bunch of entrepreneurs trying them.
Ben Greenfield tried them.
I was like, I'll try them too.
Only I'm an addict so they say one a day and I was drinking like 12 a day.
My doctor said I was basically a morphine all day
Now there was a higher purpose to me doing this actually worked out well for me But it what it wasn't doing is it disconnecting me from Danielle?
So we were doing the trips the vacations the date nights taking the kids out doing all the right things
I was showing for the kids running the business is doing the thing
But she couldn't feel me for almost a year because I was literally just high
So operable.
My reactivity was like a zero. I didn't get angry about anything,
which was a healthy two years for me
to not be angry at shit.
It actually transitioned me to being way more calm.
But she came to me, put her hand on my chest,
and said, hey, I need you to understand right now,
I'm a powerful, valuable woman.
She makes millions of dollars on her own.
I make children, I raise our children,
I take care of this house, I'm physically I am high value I can't feel
you my mind is wandering I'm thinking about fucking other men I'm thinking
about leaving you for a man that could actually see me I'm too good of a woman
to cheat on you but if you don't figure this shit out we are not going to work
and I will leave there's a statement I use in warrior called if the king
doesn't rise the kingdom dies so for days she would text me this if the
king doesn't rise the kingdom dies and don't worry the Queen leaves with the
children before it burns well and I was confronted to a truth her truth was I
shocked yes did put me on my heels yes they'd leave me in a chaotic place for a And I was confronted to a truth. Her truth. Was I shocked?
Yes.
Did it put me on my heels?
Yes.
Did it leave me in a chaotic place for a couple weeks?
It did.
Did I, did I, did I build everything that hears the have it all guy, the leader of wakeup
warrior, built to the peak only to find himself in an addiction and then find himself confronted
by his wife if you don't stop and if you don't start opening up this energy again
I'm gone Because I'm not gonna die the crazy boys for a year in psychedelic medicine
I had been getting the same repeating message your wife's soul is dying Wow, but I didn't know what to fucking do
I was like, I don't know what to do
And I wasn't lying to anyone everyone knew I was up front with what I was doing. I was like, yeah, I'm drinking these
I'm gonna pretend like I'm not
Try to stop a couple times couldn't huge withdrawals then finally went to Mexico for a week
It just didn't have access to him and sweated that shit out for five days of suffering and then I was good
And then guess what came back?
Energy God the connection the peace that peace gets lost in marriage and gets lost for kids
That's why kids don't need tons of time.
They need presence.
How can I be present with you?
You can do a show that's 10 minutes long
and more powerful than a five hour show,
if presence is there.
Well.
So you'll see speakers on stage and they're all ahead.
Talking, talking, talking, talking, saying a lot of shit,
but nobody's feeling anything.
I've been there before. Or you're sitting at dinner with people and aren't of shit, but nobody's feeling anything Been there before
Or you're sitting at dinner with people aren't saying shit. They're talking
But you don't feel anything right?
That's why there's people you connect with you like I don't know I connect with this person
I connect this person because of the energy exchange between us. It's authentic. Yeah
Yeah, I love that
Versus I'm here to show up and find an angle on something and try to manipulate this situation.
Dudes like this seem coming from fucking two miles away.
It's like...
So obvious.
When you're connected.
If you're not connected, you get manipulated.
So the highest form of influence is truth.
Yeah.
That's what Trump's doing right now.
Him and his whole little town, X-Men are just shredding and
exposing truth everywhere.
Right wrong or different?
Just shredding truth.
Here's the truth.
Here's where the money's going.
Here's the truth.
Here's what the fuck they were doing with your money.
Here's the truth.
Look here's some more truth.
All this shit was hidden from you.
Here's some more truth.
Here's some more truth.
Here's the facts.
It's on paper. Here's the budgets, and here we are. We can't send more than $750 to help
people in the hurricanes in our own country. It can only help with $750 to every family's
homes burned down in LA and Hawaii, but we can ship a fuck ton of money to Ukraine. We
can bottom load a whole bunch of your fucking tax dollars with everybody else. We can help
every country under the sun, except for our own people when they're suffering this is what most
guys do too they're willing to help their teams invest in their business
then you say how much money have you invested in taking your wife on trips
this year what do you mean like how much money have you invested in your woman this year?
In taking her away from the children into an environment where she can be a woman not a mom. Oh
Zero I
Remember come home after I thought we lost 40,000 ad spend one day
Just just fucked up thing one of my guys didn't so we lost it and I was like
Reverse that's you know, it's good learning experience good learning experience. We're learning things. Okay
We're good ordered like six IMAX that day hired like four people that day and I was telling my wife about this at home
I'm like, yeah, we have the situation we like lost 40k and I'd spent a day
But you know, it's a good learning lesson and we got six new IMAX for the team over here
We hired these four people and she's looking at me. She's like and yesterday
for the team over here and we hired these four people and she's looking at me she's like and yesterday
When I asked you if we could redo the barbecue unit outside for 20,000
You told me there was no ROI and
That I should be quiet. Wow, you fucking lost 40,000 in ad spend today Let me tell you what that message sends to me as your wife
your business matters and I don't and
That's the message most businessmen are sending. Well, we can't go on date night. Well, I can't go on date
night. Well, because we can't get a babysitter. Hold the fuck up cowboy. Because we were just
talking about you solving a $3.6 million problem in your business and how you executed it perfectly.
You hired these people, you moved these people, and now you're telling me champ that you can't figure out a nanny or a
babysitter situation
Well, my wife doesn't want to let go of the kids. Hold the fuck up. I sat and watched you in a boardroom
Negotiate the most insane fucking deal with everybody who was a no and you turned them all to into a yes in two hours
But you can't influence your wife to see the power having somebody do the laundry for her
You can't influence your wife to stand in power with her own truth and give her help at home
But you can do all this shit in the boardroom and then you wonder why I shouldn't fuck you in the bedroom
Because you're a dumb fuck. That's why but we're all stupid older dudes are stupid. We don't get it
It's like I don't get it until they get it and then they say the greatest investment I can make is myself
The next is in my woman until they get it. And then they say, the greatest investment I can make is myself.
The next is in my woman.
Love that.
Because in your world building,
there's no other person.
No other person will have a bigger and greater impact
on the ROI of your success
than this woman you're marrying.
Hats off to you, man.
That's so facts.
Yeah, my woman has been integral in my growth.
Yeah. It's not even close close like it's her by far
Was it was the most significant thing that she does?
She's a port you will be with your intuition and breeding people for me
So she has saved me millions in not working with certain people. I
Knew I'm looking over my wife sitting on a beanbag because I have I have tested that one and lost many times because she's like do not trust that person
she's been saying that about some people right now in my world yeah and I don't
like hearing it because because I like these people I'm like no no but I know
inside I'm like fuck she's probably right I don't know why God gave these
women super and it's not like anyone on the street I'm gonna listen. She's probably right. I Don't know why God gave these women super and it's not like anyone on the street. I'm gonna listen to
Is the one who is the resident expert on me facts? What's your fiance's name?
Ariel so Ariel is the resident expert on Sam. No one is going to know Sam better than Ariel
Because she sees you when you're low
When you're high she sees you when you hide when you're on fire. Yep, and everywhere in between. Yep
She's been out a whole time man. Yeah, this has been awesome, dude
Can't wait to do another one with you. Where can people learn from you and follow you?
We have our newest book worry book 2.0 second edition this bad boys coming out this month
This has been like 14 1515 years in the making.
We had a molded version of this. This has the entire curriculum of the Warrior system
put together in one place. Best place to check that out is WarriorBook.com. So that's like
where everybody starts with us. We've sold hundreds of thousands of the original copies
and we've sold for a hundred bucks apiece when it first came out. We have thousands
of guys study this book every single day.
We have an app that backs it up
in software and systems and protocol.
I'm not the first, I'm one of the original,
original Gs in the game of the man space.
Most of the men space movement
started in the last five to six years.
The Red Pill Movement.
Yep, we have been running this bitch for 13.
Long before it was cool to be authentic,
long before it was cool to talk about this,
and long before men were willing to be open to it. Now men are very open to it and I'm happy for 13. Long before it was cool to be authentic, long before it was cool to talk about this, and long before men were willing to be open to it. Now men are very open to it and I'm happy for
that. So worrybook.com would be a great place to start. Also follow me on Instagram, Gertrude White.
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