Digital Social Hour - Getting Banned on TikTok Making $15K a Month at 14 & Dropping Out of School I Jake Sujanani DSH #384

Episode Date: March 31, 2024

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at ritual.com slash podcast. Like I was talking to my dad about this. My school is recently starting to build a business institute. They're pushing like you have to go to college, get a job, work your entire life. It's never teaching you like you could actually be something

and create something out of yourself. Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe. It helps a lot with the algorithm. It helps us get bigger and better guests. And it helps us grow the team truly means a lot. Thank you guys for supporting. And here's the episode. All right, we got a 14 year old on the show today. Youngest guest I've ever had and I've had over 600 episodes. So this is this is exciting. Jake Sujanani. Thanks for coming on. Appreciate it. 14 man. So you've been in business from how long? Well, so I've always kind of wanted to make money. I really started like, even since I was 12. Like I was doing like the pressure washing, whatever I did window cleaning.

And then literally last year is when I actually started getting to the online space. So I made like $600, whatever, just doing odd jobs like pressure washing. And then I found out about Amazon affiliate marketing, and I blew up on TikTok. You can still find the account, 200,000 followers. And that's when I really started making money online. Wow. So you were 12 when that happened or 13? I I was 13 when that all started middle school yeah middle school killing it in middle school man that was doing good it was like um my best month I did like

7 000 straight from commissions and then on top of that sponsorships from whatever these Chinese Amazon sellers yeah and that did extremely well wow Wow. So from there, did you focus on that or did you switch it up from from Amazon? I completely switched it up. So it was almost a whole community of us. It was like five of the biggest guys on TikTok. It was a whole niche at the time, Amazon deals, and then you just promote your affiliate link. But like I saw that it was dying. And I also got banned on TikTok. Like my account got age restricted because I'm 14. Right. So I'm like, all right, I need to get into something more long term.

Like I really want to build a personal brand because at the time people were just following me for the deals. No one actually cared about me, right? So I saw that it was dying and I'm like, all right, I'm just going to start posting about myself and my journey to, you know, start making money online. Yeah.

Wow. So you're in high school now or still in middle school yeah I'm a freshman now okay and do you plan on going the full four years um yeah it's been in my mind to switch to online school a bunch of different guys who are in sort of my position like one of my friends is 16 and he switched to online school and he told me it was the best decision he ever made but at the same time for me I don't know how much I just want to be at home all the time right yeah like i like interacting at school and stuff like as much as like i would say like

you know i don't like it you know the things they teach but at the end of the day like yeah i'm gonna graduate like i don't see why not yeah when not you probably got kids hitting you up non-stop in school asking for how to make money that's probably the most annoying part like if i was to put a label on the most um annoying part about all of this is just the people like it almost feels like people are always trying to use or trying to get something out of you right yeah like at school now it's like if people are talking to me it always seems like something related to how i'm making money or like how i could teach them you know putting them on whatever and it's just it just kind of gets old right you got trust issues no

literally i talked to literally like four or five of my friends that you know that i've known since before everything and and that's literally it dude that's crazy yeah making that money at that age because now you're up to 15k a month right yeah 10 15 at that age that's like being a millionaire i mean what are you going to use that on at 14, you know? No, literally. Like, that's probably the tricky part about actually making money. Like, before you have a car, before, you know. I live in my parents' house.

I don't pay for anything, you know. I eat for free. And really, like, the only thing I could even spend my money on is just whatever saving. And then I buy clothes, whatever. Like, that's really all you can do. So, you're just stacking right now are you investing in anything no literally like it's just been either sitting in my account or i buy clothes and yeah you can't even open up a stock account right because you got to be 18 for that no yeah i mean sometimes my dad helps me with different stuff like we recently just got my loc set up like i don't think i've ever paid um

a single cent in taxes um my entire journey doing this and um you know now we're working on getting the lsc set up they don't teach you that man i remember my first year in business i was like what what is this what is this tax bill i'm getting right now you know no i'm saying a lot of like a lot of my friends in this space run into that thing it's like because it's not something that they teach you, like whether it be in school and especially if you don't have older guys guiding you, like one of my friends is about to get, um, destroyed in taxes. He had over six figures come straight into his account. He's 16 and he spent all of it.

Like he has 12,000 in his account now. He's going to have to get on a payment plan. No, he's done. Yeah. I mean, honestly, they never teach it in high school, even college. You have to be in like an accounting class to probably learn about it. No, yeah, it's just that's another like issue kind of have with school. Like there's not a big thing like where they teach about you could be an entrepreneur that you can make money yourself.

Like I was talking to my dad about this. My school is recently starting to build a business institute, but it's after a long time. It always seems like they're pushing like you have to go to college, get a job, work your entire life. Like it's never teaching you like you could actually be something and create something out of yourself. Absolutely. I think you've done well at getting that friend group of other people that are doing what you're doing.

That's what I try. I feel like that's the biggest thing. Like people at the bottom are the ones who are in competition. People at the top are the ones who are in collaboration. I love that. Yeah, I love that. Because when I was in high school, it was kind of when social media was starting, but it wasn't normal to be in entrepreneurship. So it's kind of looked down on. But now if you're doing it, it's almost like you're cool, you know? Yeah, no, it definitely I wouldn't say it's become a normal thing, but it's definitely become something that's really popular. like everyone wants to be an influencer everyone

wants to be famous on social media whatever it may be yeah and especially now how easy it is to monetize like it's it's the easiest way to be making money online just literally posting videos absolutely it's an interesting dynamic for you because you're you're making more than your teachers no yeah so you're sitting there in class like why am i even listening to this yeah some of this stuff is stupid like especially like in like these dumb classes like i take french class i recently just got a 40 on my quiz and it's just i feel like i mean you know it's language or whatever but like i feel like some of the stuff i it doesn't really matter right yeah language i mean the way they teach it is so slow dude i took spanish for four years i was in honors i still can't speak it you know what i mean and that was four years and if i just went to mexico

for a year i would be fluent in spanish no literally it's a slow curriculum and they have you doing like just busy work like i feel like school is full of busy work homework busy work because they put everyone at the same speed even though you and i probably learn faster than the average person i know like i feel like that's why this whole online teaching is gonna really like become something in the future because it's like catering to like your interest and like the speed at which you learn like not everyone learns the same not everyone thinks the same not everyone learns the same speed that's why some kids excel in school and some kids, you know, fail. 100%, dude.

I listen to audiobooks and podcasts at 2 to 2.5x speed. And that's like normal for me because I've trained myself. Obviously, I had to start at like 1.5 and then work my way up. No, I got you. It's like I'm learning twice as fast as the average person. Exactly. You know what I mean? But I want to talk about your Discord.

You have your own server, right? I recently just launched my own community. That ties in. I really, how I said people at the top are collaborating, I hate all this stuff with gatekeeping. It should be a thing to teach people how to make money as well because why am I in competition with random people? If you support me, obviously I'm going to teach you what I know because at the end of the day it's not me against you

it's both of us we're both trying to get somewhere we're both obviously trying to make money we're trying to become rich in the future so I launched my discord and I basically just teach every way that I've made money and literally as soon as I figure something out or I come across something that has made me a ton of money I instantly share it like I don't believe in all of this like yeah let's wait until it's you know oversaturated or let's gatekeep this method because honestly it's just like it's just stupid a lot of people have that scarcity mindset I think especially in drop shipping no one ever wants to talk about their methods or their products yeah I know it's stupid like like they think it's a huge competition with all of this,

but it's really not. There's so much money in the world. There's so many people in the world. Like people have such a fixed mindset when it comes to even clients. Like in my short-form content agency, like people were like, Jake, why would you tell exactly how you do your outreach? Why would you tell your method of

marketing if it's going to limit your clients? And I'm like, there's so many creators, especially now we're literally in an influencer bull run. Yeah. Yeah. Short form's popping off right now, dude. I just posted some clips when I interviewed Grant Cardone. Each one has like a million views. No, it's crazy. On Instagram. It's nuts dude i mean i don't even think people watch long form as much as short form these days no that's why it's really hard like to see the direction of everything because before like you know tiktok and all this short form game um popped up long form was was the way that you're gonna succeed in um social media but now it's kind of tricky like i even i was even struggling like

should i continue just growing my short form or should i get into long form and like i recently just uploaded a bunch of youtube videos because i feel like it's how you get longevity in it because um the whole reason of posting and growing a personal brand is you build a deeper connection your audience and that's you know inevitably how you're going to sell to them like you you have to get them to trust you and you can't really build a connection in 30 seconds um compared to one that's a 10 minute video agreed yeah you definitely need both i think short form is kind of like the top of funnel where you bring everyone in with like clickbaity clips or whatever that are 30 seconds to a minute and then if the long form is good they'll they'll stay yeah exactly like it's it's

fast too like long form it could take months for your video to blow up but if you just post clips on it like you get instant results in that and then you could just funnel that into your long form absolutely what's been some of your most viral videos some of my most viral videos um it was on drop shipping and my smma stuff those have always been killing it um and then i blew up off of just my journey like i would just document every single little thing i did you know whether it was a loss whether it was a win i first blew up on tiktok maybe five six months ago first video got a million views and i was averaging like 400k views of video that's crazy then i got banned so wait how old do you have to be on tiktok

well there's no real age limit i mean they say you have to be over 13 but the thing that i really ran into is people reporting because that's really how you're gonna get taken down for being underage and i mean there's a lot of envious people in this world there's a lot of people who who um want to bring others down if they're doing better and 99 of the time when i get banned is because people report me for being under 13 wow and how it works is there's nothing i could really appeal to like send to appeal like if i put in my passport for example saying you know i'm 14 um it wouldn't matter because they implemented a new um guideline recently like if you're under 16 um your videos won't get pushed to the for you page you can't have comments you won't even have

a link in your bio damn so it was just not even worth it to appeal so it's just like you're gonna have to get a fake id man say you're like 17 or something man i tried i put in my brothers but um he was 15 at the time i put my brother's permit and you know he wasn't 16 no you got brothers yeah i have an older brother okay does he do this type of stuff too my brother is big in soccer he's actually um he's moving to spain for boarding camp our boarding school so he's nice and he's good at soccer yeah damn a 16 yeah these kids are starting younger and younger no literally you play soccer too or no no sports i don't play any sports business baby business is a sport for real

though like i see businesses competition and you know getting to the top no yeah literally mark cuban says it's a sport it's like the biggest sport in the world. It's 24-7. Literally, yeah. No breaks. But I'm similar to you where I like to collab and stuff. I don't get jealous. I mean, when I see success in the podcast space, I'm like, that's sick. Yeah, exactly.

Like, it's stupid when people, especially in the short form game, like with this whole community of like these finance influencers, it's a lot of them get mad when you steal video ideas because if a video goes viral once, it's going lot of them get mad when you steal video ideas because if a video goes viral once it's going to go viral again and people everyone knows this but when you steal someone else's content ideas or even their hook one of my friends um noah was just telling me how another creator was mass reporting his account because he stole one of his video ideas in his hook wow i'm just like it's so stupid because it it's if it's gonna go viral you why would you not want the the other person to succeed like it's not like social media is not a competition yeah like it's not like someone is better than someone else like i know creators who

have less followers than me and who make more money it's just it's stupid to to compete over people's attention it's short from content People watch hundreds of videos a day. Yeah, that's so dumb. I mean, people repost my podcast clips all the time, and I love it. Yeah, exactly. And if anything, if you have your own distinct way of speaking or distinct way of scripting your videos, people are going to tie it back into you.

So if anything, it's a better look for your brand. Like people reposting your clips, like, yeah, you could take that as, oh, yeah, they're taking money from me, taking my audience. But if anything, they're pushing you out more yeah for real i mean i got the background here so if you want to repost my clips it's right there guys feel free you know and some of them get ton of views and like people take those down and they're like you're stealing my stuff but who

in the long run it's good for you yeah exactly definitely good more eyeballs more ways you can monetize my opinion easily um so you're doing 15k a month now do you have any financial goals or you're just rock riding with it i don't know like that's one thing i really should plan on my goals all of my like mentors were telling me jake you need to write down your goals for 2024 and i was like yeah i'm gonna get around to doing and i like you know it's march 1st now and you know i've written down a single thing wow in my mind i know what i want like i want i want an amg g63s and a hellcat just bought the g63 are you serious yeah in december it's a good tax write-off so far such a sick because you can it's

over 6 000 pounds so you could write off the whole or 80 now i think that's insane yeah yeah i'll teach you some stuff you got to do it before uh so in December you would do it to write off all your profit because you're gonna make I don't know what your margins are but say you profit 100k that would be like paying 40 50k in taxes so instead you could just buy a car oh I got you yeah my dad has been a big help like teaching me about all this stuff too because you know I am young and I don't really know anything about anything as far as, you know, actual business. I mean, I really just make videos online. Yeah.

And becoming like a like aware of all this stuff is huge. Do you have a business mentor yet? I have three mentors right now. Oh, well, one big one. I had two other ones in the past and one guy aj yabbit um he's not big on social media i just recently helped him go viral um he does he runs a high ticket sales agency and he's just been a huge inspiration to me like he he helped me make my first fifty thousand dollars in this damn like the first month i worked with him he

made us he made me forty thousand dollars in a month like the first month i worked with him he made us he made me forty thousand dollars in a month the first month i ever worked with him holy crap what does he teach um he runs high ticket sales so he put appointment setters um and closures in my dms posting ctas and funnel people it's like my high ticket mentorship oh nice which was like a thousand dollars at the time um five hundred thousand dollars at the time and are you interested in coming on the digital social hour podcast as a guest we'll click the application link below in the description of this video we are always looking for cool stories cool entrepreneurs to talk to you about business and life click the application link below and here's the episode guys i mean i'm gonna be honest i did not even make a lot from it because

i put myself in a really bad deal like it's i didn't really think about the percentages like i had a partner at the time um and then you know i was also giving the you know aj's team the closers yeah so i i definitely didn't make like a ton maybe like 10 000 off of that but it was definitely an experience and just shows like he's smart and he's taught me a bunch about even helps me like with my workout routines. Like nice. He's really huge. That's cool, man. Yeah.

High ticket closing is such a good skill, dude. It's crazy. I mean, you can make six figures a year as like a teenager as a high ticket closer. Easily. There's so many ways to make money online. Like everyone thinks there's one just way to make money online. Like what's the best way? What's the easiest way?

Like every single way to make money works. Like's the best way? What's the easiest way? Every single way to make money works. Drop shipping is never dead. E-commerce can't die. SMMA works. Content automation works. Every single side hustle you hear on the internet works for some people. It's just choosing what you want and sticking with it. Yeah, and I think effort is needed and also the mentors definitely need it to to save you time and money it's super hard to succeed without having someone guiding you like

you could only get so far just figuring stuff out on your own yeah like investing in yourself and your knowledge is the biggest thing like that's what i don't know why people hate on courses i mean i know some gurus sell bad courses and you know obviously puts a bad rep on it but courses just help you expand your knowledge like if you really want to do something if you want to learn more about e-commerce like you're gonna have to invest in some sort of mentor or or guidance to learn more i used to watch a course a day when i was in college dude it was nuts i watched every single guru you could think of i've seen their course course. No, yeah. And usually multiple, like Tai Lopez, seen all his, Sam Ovens, Alex Beck.

I don't know if Alex Becker had one. Dan Da Silva, all those guys, bro. That's how I started because when you're broke, the knowledge is what gets you to that next level. No, exactly. Yeah, courses are a game changer. They do get a lot of heat. I understand why because now they're pretty expensive. A lot of them are complete to be honest

so i could see why but if you really do your research on the course and the person teaching it you could join a really good one no exactly like you just got to find someone who's actually credible which is hard like it's easy to fake being rich like it's easy to fake you know a lifestyle but if you just really like watch this person's content taking what they're saying you'll know if someone can provide you actual value if they're providing you free value in their video. Yeah. Alex Ramosi, right? Yeah. That's the goat right there.

So do you just work as soon as you get home until you sleep pretty much? No, honestly, I don't even do a lot of work. You know, I do. I do what I need to do. You know, but I do relax a lot of the time i mean not majority of the time but it's one big misconception is that you need to be grinding 24 7 you need to sit at your laptop for 16 hours at a time it's it's just honestly just stupid because like you just have to work smart allocate your time correctly and you'll get to where you need to be yeah i agree because there's times in my life when i was younger where i i would grind all the time and i never gave myself time to think and plan you know what i

mean and that's needed or else you'll get caught up in the groundwork yeah exactly like sometimes you could just be doing hard work for nothing like you actually have to be working smart and just because what's the point if you're not getting any results right if you're just working on building like a store for 16 hours well what's the point right if you're not getting any results, right? If you're just working on building like a store for 16 hours, well, what's the point, right? If you're not going to, if it doesn't yield any results. 100%. So is coaching your main focus right now, coaching other people? No, my main thing right now has been my new agency,

which I dropped like two-ish months ago. And I just took a completely different approach because tying back into the whole thing, like people want to see results. Creators want to see results. Like I run an editing agency, you could say. Like I edit people's videos. I help other entrepreneurs,

like six, seven figure entrepreneurs go viral on Instagram. And a lot of people, the reason people fail is because of two things. They sell it wrong or they have no social proof. These guys aren't going to respond to you if you have no followers on your page. And they don't care about how their video looks. These guys could care less how crazy the editing is. They want to see results.

If you're not giving them results, there's no point in them working with you. So I took a different approach and I'm like, I guarantee you 10,000 views the first video. Wow, the first video. First video. And the way I do that is pretty much it's like a shout out type method because i don't know if you know this but if you repost someone else's reel on your story even if they don't click on see real it counts as a view what it's crazy so you're reposting someone else's video like i don't know how many um shares you get on your story

yeah like 50k. 50K. If you repost one of my videos, I'll get 50,000 views. Dude, I didn't even know that. That's crazy. And it's organic as well. It boosts the video. So one of my first clients I was just testing it with, I reposted his first video. He got that 10,000 views because I get rough like 15,000 views on my story.

And then his video blew up to a million. It's at 800K or a million right now. Dude, that makes a lot of sense because when i do collab posts with my bigger guests and they restory it those always get way more views no exactly yeah wow i did not know that i thought you had to be on for like three seconds or something no literally if they just see if they literally just see your story it counts as a view which is which is crazy i don't know if instagram is ever gonna fix that i don't think they really will i hope I don't know if Instagram is ever going to fix that. I don't think they really will. I hope they don't. Makes my numbers look better. It's such a crazy way of selling it.

And I was literally just sitting. I don't even know how I thought of it. It's probably the smartest thing I've ever thought of in my entire life. Because it's such a different way of presenting it. Because you're giving these guys results. You're guaranteeing results. Yeah. Because these guys aren't even pulling a thousand views.

So the fact that you come in there and say, yo, I'll get you 10K on the first video exactly and if you buy a bigger pages like bigger theme pages yeah repost their videos and now you're guaranteeing 100 000 of a video you get them on retainer because you know they're going to need you to get views yep um you get them on retainer like whatever three five thousand dollars a month that's how i started buying off those big pages man no they were so cheap back in the day, like when I was in college, like six, seven years ago. Now they're expensive. Like I've recently started buying a few different like 100,000 follower theme pages.

They're like $1,000, $700. Yeah. Even more than that. I'm like. Yeah, they're getting up there. And I used to be able to get shout outs dirt cheap, like on Worldstar. I could get on there for like $2,500 back in the day. No, literally like at wealth is so expensive. Oh, yeah. I used to get shout outs dirt cheap like on world star i could get on there for like 2500 back in the day no literally like at wealth is so expensive oh yeah i used to get that one dirt

cheap to five thousand dollars for a story for a story for a story holy crap i know the kid that runs up that's crazy yeah he used to charge like 500 dude no they're expensive now yeah and uh i think daquan sold for like 100 million bucks or something. Did you see that? I didn't see that. But I know a lot of these guys make a lot of money from these theme pages. AJ's partner, Adi, he first was making money. He was 16. He sold this theme page. I think it had like 1 million followers or more than that.

And he sold it for $100K. Jeez. At 16, so it's crazy. I know a few kids that have sold for six figures. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. If you have the eyeballs in the right product you'll make it back easily yeah um are you all in on ig right now in

terms of the social media platforms yeah i've been banned on tiktok like seven different times each account over 50 000 followers like wow like i've been trying to get back on it but it's it's such a different game now and And Instagram hasn't even been giving me a hard time. They're really calm when it comes to the whole rules and stuff. It's the only thing is just people pay to get you banned. I literally got banned yesterday because there's a whole community banning these finance influencers like myself. Yeah.

And I just got my account back this morning but it's just it's just stupid dude i get texted daily about that actually yeah it's it's dumb yeah because the whatsapp chat of all the previous podcast guests like someone in their daily is like yo i got banned like i know it's so dumb it's so crazy but uh i don't get that model like so they basically ban you and then what well so the whole goal i honestly don't even really understand it myself but i guess they pay guys make livings off of banning people like they charge a couple hundred dollars um and whoever it may be pays to get me banned um and it's that simple like i don't really understand the goal behind it at all but you

know obviously some people are envious some people um don't want to see others succeed whatever it may be um from what i've seen it's okay so this is what i've seen a few times it's guys in like a third world country so like india or something so like 100 bucks there's actually a lot of money and they'll send you a dm saying yo i'm banning your account here's my number if you want to get it back it's like this amount of price like 100 500 bucks whatever and then they get banned and then i think they take the money and then reinstate their account no yeah i've i've actually seen that one of my friends was like the guy who unbanned his account because i don't for whatever reason he got banned and he

paid someone else to unban it and the guy ended up banning his account again to get more money for it. Wow, that's nuts. Yeah, usually the guys unbanning are the ones banning too. Yeah, I mean, honestly, it's kind of smart. I hate making money unethically. I believe in karma. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely going to get back at them. But as far as the short term, it's not a good way of thinking.

It's a hustle. It's definitely a hustle. And especially in a country like that they're actually probably balling out there with that money no 100 i mean there's no longevity in it but as far as you know some short-term money like a couple hundred bucks yeah whatever you travel a lot right now no literally i sit in my room all day like for the past couple months i've literally just been sitting in my room, whatever, working on different things, creating content. This is the first time like I've ever really traveled for this type of stuff.

Like that's why it's so kind of surreal even being here right now. You're at the Wynn too, bro. That's like the nicest hotel in Vegas. It's crazy. Like I never thought like posting videos on TikTok and Instagram would ever really get me anywhere like I knew it'd make me some money but I never actually thought it would like amount to anything like real and like tangible and it's I don't know it's just so crazy to me still well you went about a smart man because a lot of people post and they're broke but you figured out a way to monetize

it yeah I know it's it's it's easy to not monetize and just post for fun because, I mean, I post because I genuinely love content creation. But, you know, like I said, AJ is the one who really helped me monetize my stuff. Yeah. Dude, I know people with millions of followers that are broke. No, yeah. My friend, the Mindset guy, I don't know if you've ever seen him. Asian guy does the street interviews. Street interviews.

I've seen a ton of those. I don't know. Yeah. He is like a million on Instagram, a million on TikTok. he was making no money now he's doing super well he's making a ton of money helping other um content creators go viral because he he kind of does a similar method i do but um no yeah million followers he was making a thousand dollars a month i think it was from sponsors that's nothing dude no for a million followers so what was that switch for him to start making money um he talked to me like we became friends and i connected him with aj actually i know i'm kind of plugging him a lot but he genuinely like changed my life and my whole

perspective on all of this stuff damn and he met aj aj helped him monetize helped him build out a good offer um and yeah that's dope do you do you and aj live in the same area no aj lives in like south carolina or something what the hell yeah south carolina i have no idea i did not expect that no yeah i've never heard of someone living there in our space no yeah i feel like everyone is kind of relatively like in the same space like whether it be like florida or like la or miami's but yeah miami la vegas maybe new york sometimes somewhere in texas but yeah it's it's all the same places yeah exactly do you ever want to move to like a big city i really want to move out as soon as possible like i don't i've been reading a few things and it's like changing your scenery

can really change like your whole perspective on everything and i feel like it's hard to really stay motivated and wanting to achieve something when you when you don't really have like um whether it's like a burning desire or like a need to like you know i live in my parents house so like sometimes i get ripped like i get comfortable way too often right like complacent where i am like you know i could take the couple weeks off you know not post any content you know i really have no worries like i i made a decent amount last month so i could i could chill out yeah when i moved from jersey man because that's like a family state it's not really like a business entrepreneurial state that's where i grew up and i came to la and vegas my business 10x no yeah it's just who you're around and

i mean dude it's like i don't know what state you're but in Jersey, I got made fun of for doing business and entrepreneurship. Like people didn't support that. But when you move to like L.A. or Vegas, you just surround yourself with like minded people. Yeah. Like surround yourself with people like that. You'll become one of them. You want to you want to achieve more. Like I've seen a bunch of people who move down to Miami and you see a bunch of these nice cars.

It gives them that drive and motivation to like I live in like a pretty quiet neighborhood in florida um i go to a nice school but it's not a lot of kids like me around in my area that do similar stuff yeah oh you're in a private school yeah i'm in a pretty decent private school nice is that have you ever done public school or is it always i've been in private school my entire life damn your parents know what they're doing man you never had to go through the weird shit i went through you probably heard horror stories though public school is not not a fun place yeah no i hear it's bad yeah i'm only doing private or homeschool for my kids i mean for real i mean dude you don't even want to know what they're teaching there so any plans for college or this has actually been on my mind for a while now like

there's like this big almost like um misconception going around like in this whole like teen entrepreneur space like on social media like school and like college is like super stupid but I honestly like this one guy talked to really change my like mindset and like opinion on it because I don't know why I wouldn't go. Like if I'm learning more business, if I'm learning, you know, just things that will help me in the future, like why would I, why would I not go? Like, um, I know people go there and learn what they need and then they drop out. Right. Yeah. But I only think it's really stupid to not go is if you're learning something stupid. Like if you're learning philosophy or like history or something, yeah, you're just wasting money. Right. But if you're, I feel like if you're learning something stupid. If you're learning philosophy or history or something, yeah, you're just wasting money, right?

But I feel like if I'm learning business and stuff, it could actually really help me in the future. You'd have to do your research on the best business schools and make sure they're modern because when I went to learn business, they were teaching you how to run newspaper ads and cold call and stuff. Yeah, no.

It's hard adapting to this new age and finding people who know that yeah i mean by that time dude you might be making millions too so it might be a totally different decision when you're 18 yeah because you're only 14 making 15k a month so by then you might be making 100k a month hopefully i'm hopefully hopefully more i think you could do it man i mean you're running ads now too right now i've just been doing straight organic because i used to do paid ads like on tiktok and stuff but i've seen organic is always going to be the best like even as far as outreaching you could tell when someone has a fake social media following yeah but like when you see

someone who acts as a genuine following um and have grown their account organically it especially what i'm doing i'm teaching other people helping other entrepreneurs go viral it just works out better you can't beat organic but i think ads are like supplemental it should never be the main focus like some people only focus on ads and yeah you can't really trust those guys yeah yeah uh jake it's been fun man where can people find you um you can find me on youtube jake sujanani you can find me on instagram jake sujanani um i'll have a tiktok back up and running soon just keep an eye out on my story post cool we'll link it all in the video thanks for coming on man appreciate it yeah thanks for watching guys as

always i'll see you next time