Digital Social Hour - Getting Bit By Venomous Snake, Dream Animal & Picking up 300 Pound Gator | Jay Brewer DSH #265

Episode Date: February 4, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's a bear running straight at a group of photographers. And one photographer just starts running at it, screaming. And he ran right to it. And that bear was like, holy, I'm out of here. Really? Yeah, he just turned sharp. I think fear creates, makes everything uncomfortable, right? Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe.
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Starting point is 00:00:40 How about yourself? Doing well, man. I'm not going to lie. I thought you'd bring a snake. You know, I wish I could have, but I'm here, you know, in Vegas visiting. Yeah. And, of course, I'm like, you know, I could have brought a snake, but I couldn't because I have nowhere to keep it. Right.
Starting point is 00:00:53 You know, I've got to think about the animals. So I just, today I'm hanging out in Vegas, and I thought, hey, you know, we were talking about catching up. And I thought, where are you at? My friend said, he's in Vegas. And I'm like, no way. So that's why we, boom, here we are. Can you even bring a snake on a plane? Oh, you can.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Oh, you can? Yeah, it has to be shipped separately. You can't put it in your lap like a carry-on dog. Dude, I see your videos. I mean, how big do these snakes actually get? Well, I actually specialize in the largest type of snake in the world called reticulated python yeah and uh people don't a lot of people in the social media don't really realize what where i started from but i've always been passionate
Starting point is 00:01:35 about animals and these reticulated pythons are the largest and i just always liked them so i don't know if you noticed but all those snakes come in all these different colors from black to orange to yellow to striped. Well, that's how I started. It was my passion. And so I genetically bred them for different colors because there would be one found in the wild that was yellow, one found orange, one found striped, one found with bands and one with all broken patterns, you could say. And then we'd take those and breed them together. And so I was kind of a leading person in that particular snake. So me and one of my employees named Tim made about 300 first in the world
Starting point is 00:02:17 ever seen colors of those in the beginning. But we've kind of backed off a little bit because ever since things slowed down, got really busy with the social thing and all the followings. And, you know, so I just work in mostly focusing on the zoo and, you know, trying to do the social thing as good as I can. Nice. So I think I saw one video. Did the snake get up to 20 feet? Oh, I have ones over 20 feet.
Starting point is 00:02:43 That's crazy. That's four of me they weigh up to 300 plus pounds too i mean they i mean it's it's i've got a lot of really giant ones because i've been doing it for so many years a lot of people don't realize that they even how big they even get wow they're supposed to get a lot bigger but i'm starting to wonder now that i'm been doing it for so many years. Yeah. And everybody's always talked about, we're hunting for the 30-foot snake.
Starting point is 00:03:12 And I'm like, I think I would have had one by now. And I think I'd have known somebody with one by now. Yeah. I'm not young. So what do you feed it? They eat defrosted rabbits, to be honest. Defrosted rabbits? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Wow. And sometimes defrosted pigs. I get them from places that they, you know, they use the rabbit. They don't, it sounds funny, but the rabbits are used for laboratory use, but they're not used physically to do it. All it is is a blood draw, and they use the
Starting point is 00:03:37 rabbit's blood here and there. It's funny, they set them up in a pretty nice size enclosure, and they give them toys. So, I mean, it sounds horrible, but it's not. It's funny, they set them up in a pretty nice-sized enclosure, and they give them toys. It sounds horrible, but it's not. It's not like you always think of lavatory things. They've got things hanging out of their heads and all the horrible things. Some of the stuff they do is just gnarly.
Starting point is 00:04:00 That's funny. But that's not what they do with these. It's just literally a blood draw once a month and they take the blood and do things with the blood outside so you don't feed them live animals we have to sometimes when they're newborns sometimes we have to feed them baby mice, mice, rats
Starting point is 00:04:17 to train them? just to get them on the scent so I've been breeding these snakes for 30 years some of them you know and so because of if you have a snake that's been it's like a dog right i mean a dog naturally came out of the wild right it was a wild crazy dog coyote you can't go crab a coyote and put it in and you know and turn it into a pet overnight right so years of breeding them and being accustomed to humans and all that they come somewhat domesticated so the snakes my a lot of my snakes will eat frozen they don't care
Starting point is 00:04:51 because they're they no longer have the fear of a wild snake that's why they don't attack you know when they are when they strike at me it's usually a female and you know social media is kind of funny right so i could I could take 50 videos, right? And every one of them can be identical, but one of them, the snake strikes at me, right? Well, all of a sudden, it's the only one you ever see, right? Because you know how it is. When it goes viral, it goes viral, right? You want to see the blood.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yeah, you know, so nobody sees the educational ones unless they dive deep where it's like about how cool the snakes are. And, you know, we get to do a lot of fun stuff with those big snakes because they're so docile and you know i mean we're going to be doing the lakers on the 21st they're they're having a you know uh they have like a family party thing that they do and it's really yeah it's cool we bring snakes alligators all kinds of stuff yeah they don't bite people well first of all we taped their mouth by because it's state law but in real life a lot of the gators are so accustomed to being held that they don't have an issue oh so you've domesticated them to some degree right i mean nothing's i mean
Starting point is 00:05:55 humans aren't domesticated we just learned that this week you know what i mean i mean it's like so i mean obviously there's a beast in everything to some degree. And if you, you know, and it's weather, you know, so, but yeah. So most of the animals that I work with are multi-generation in captivity. You know, they're used for educational purposes. They interact with people. They actually, I have plenty of animals that can prove that they like humans. I have a big lizard that I literally click my fingers and hold my hand out and go like this, and he comes down and puts his head to be petted.
Starting point is 00:06:34 No food, no trickery. That's the Komodo dragon? No, it's actually called an Asian water monitor. His name is Gilly. He's all black. Wow. Yeah, so there's a lot. Animals are kind of like people. a water monitor. His name is Gilly. He's all black. Wow. Yeah. So there's a lot, you know, animals are kind of like people. I mean, you know, you get some people that are just not easy to get along with, you know, and you get other people that are like easy to get along with. You know,
Starting point is 00:06:55 I mean, so you believe you could form emotional connections with these animals? No, I know you can. Yeah. I'm, I remember you. I, there's things, I mean, I've seen some of your podcasts and some of the whole idea of your aura and power and all that is it's real. I mean, there's no, and ifs or buts, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:15 You can, I can walk into, uh, somewhere where an animal is normally aggressive and it's not aggressive to me. Really? Yeah. I,
Starting point is 00:07:24 I just, you know, I don't want to me really yeah i i just you know i don't want to sound like you're like you know but at the end of the day you know you cast out your emotion and it can go beyond it goes beyond your your facial expressions i believe right you have that uh caesar milan power with him he's. I, you know, when I went and did a podcast with Cesar, right? Yeah. And, you know, I mean, even though I'm an animal guy, I don't expect people to have a fully complete understanding of animals as much as, I just can't tell you how many people I've met
Starting point is 00:08:01 that are good with animals, they don't know how they're good, including myself. I didn't even understand 100% of it, right? And then when I met Caesar, he like, I was like, holy cow, this guy really understands humans, animals, the human, you know, flight and flight, you know, the whole, he really, really, what he's talking about is real stuff. And it fits across the whole level. He's a beast now.
Starting point is 00:08:27 No, he actually is. When I met him, I was blown away. I really just didn't expect the podcast to go how it did because I just didn't think it would be that deep of a connection of understanding each other. I thought I was going a little bit because i had a lot of followers you know didn't talk to him a lot and we started talking it was like he was like he he realized i knew what i was talking about right and i realized he knew the heck what he was talking about you know i mean because it's you
Starting point is 00:08:59 can't understand it unless you do it you know i mean it's like it you know that's awesome you know you can't you can't a super bowl a person's got a couple super bowl rings can't explain to a person that's dreaming about being a super ball player you know in a super bowl to explain like what feeling like the zone is you know i mean like how life can get you where you're just like it's almost surreal that's why i use the term living the dream yeah it must be something about your aura that just makes these animals feel comfortable i think it's it's the lack of fear i think fear creates uh makes everything uncomfortable right you're doing a business deal and you're worried about this guy well he's gonna think you know trust me should i not trust him? You see how simple that whole, you talk about aura.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I mean, that cast, it cast, you know, when you walk in somewhere and you look and you feel it, you're like, wow, I feel the tension in here. You can cut it. How many times you heard that word? Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. How can you cut something that isn't real? How can you even create a name that the tension is here so real?
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah. So if you're in the woods and you see a bear you're not going to be feared at all oh i wouldn't say i wouldn't be fear worried but worried's not going to help me right it's going to cause me to make poor decisions right yeah and so if i take off running that was a poor decision that's created by fear right yeah and if you run from a bear what's what it's going to chase yeah so but if you all of a sudden run up to you know instead you approach the bear i i watched the video it's it's viral i'm i'd be surprised nobody's seen it there's a bear running straight at a group of photographers
Starting point is 00:10:37 and one photographer just starts running at it screaming and he ran right to it and that bear was like holy i'm out of here really yeah and he just turned sharp wow and if he would have ran the other way that bear was on he was locked in yeah you're not running no he was locked into to you know he was locked in for not something you want to be there wow that's crazy and so i mean fear typically is never a good thing i mean there's nothing wrong with having an understanding and respect but that's not really fear right you know i mean i'm not going to get on a motorcycle because i have respect that it's very dangerous you know i mean and people go people jump on motorcycles every day but they freak out about
Starting point is 00:11:20 me holding some non-venomous python that i've been working with for 30 years that i grew it from a baby you know so our minds are not always very balanced right you know i mean yeah i've seen some of your comments they're they're pretty funny oh it's fun i mean i enjoy it i mean i you know it's part of the game on social media you're gonna get hate no matter what oh hate is you know what if you're not getting hate then you're not you're not getting hate, then you're not making people even question reality. You know what I mean? If you just go with the status quo, there's no pressure. I mean, it's just, oh, we're just in a bucket going that direction.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Yeah, there's no value. You don't bring any value because you're not changing anything. You're not going to be a game changer and not change what people think and what people think is not easy to change because we're we're like programmed i mean we're like we want to we want to protect ourselves we don't want to take risk we don't want to be wrong we don't want i mean there's so many things and and the funny part is it's true with animals too they don't want to be wrong and get eaten yeah right i mean is it any different i mean people don't people always oh these snakes should be free in the wild well the funny part in
Starting point is 00:12:30 the wild they're they're on the threatened species list because not because they have 100 eggs at a time or 40 eggs at a time i mean something that has 40 eggs at a time could never be on the threatened species list except that everything eats them. You're talking about snakes? Yeah. Everything eats them? Like my pythons, yeah. So everybody sees a 20-foot python and goes,
Starting point is 00:12:53 well, that thing has no predators. It started out this big. You know what I mean? Everything eats something. It's like a fish can eat it, an alligator can eat it, a bird can eat it, a rat can eat it. I mean, I could just go on all day, all the things. The wild is literally the wild. Nature's not a pretty place.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Yeah, for sure. Have you had any encounters with wild animals, kind of oneself? I've been very lucky. I went to Komodo Island, and to be honest, I was shocked that I was around so many giant dragons. I mean, they're big enough to just try to pull you off into the corner and just eat you. I saw one swallow a baby goat the other day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, on the Real Tarzan's page.
Starting point is 00:13:38 He shares a lot of wild stuff all over that he gets off the internet. Yeah, and I mean, the fact of matter is is they're just massive beasts but they were in a village and because they were in a village they learned their boundaries like so that when i got there it was a trip you know i mean they still had all the hunting instincts they still grab eat things like that goat you're talking about. But they knew that humans weren't on the menu. And so none of them chased me. And I was pretty surprised because I was, I mean, we went way deep outside of the village. And they still had like a, you're big and you're big enough to be maybe a problem to me.
Starting point is 00:14:20 So I'm just going to back off. You know what I mean? Man, those things are huge. But I don't know if I would have taken off running i don't know what might have happened yeah they're pretty fast aren't they oh i thought i could outrun one and uh we we basically drug like a piece of wood for a for a target yeah and and i was like i got this perfect you know you know you want to do you know i mean we do social media so you understand you want things to look good. So I'm like, well, we'll run the dragon like this,
Starting point is 00:14:49 and I'll just be right here ahead of it, you know, but off the track of what he's chasing. And then if he decides to chase me, now I got to actually get out of the way, right? Because he could just lock in on my foot or my leg and decide, oh, he's running. Yeah. He's running for me. I'm hungry.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And I fell down three times trying to, I could never, I could not stay in front of that dragon. And it's the most, one of my friends was just pants laughing at me. Oh, man. I mean, when you have a 250 pound, you know, know 10 foot lizard it's got venom because they're venomous yeah chasing oh they're venomous oh they're venomous oh i didn't know yeah well there's a lot of things people don't know i mean i learned so much that i didn't you know there always been a debate whether venomous or not venomous and the saliva will kill you in a few days yeah well the truth of the matter is is they drug you because they're venomous,
Starting point is 00:15:47 and then they just maul you, right? And so some of the big animals, when they're bitten, the reason why they don't run away is because they can't. Oh, it's not baby goats. Yeah, right. Well, the goat, when they're baby goats, reptiles like to eat things whole for the most part. Yeah. And I say for the most part because monitor lizards will eat like things.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I mean, they literally eat water buffalo that are 1,000 pounds. Holy crap. They can't swallow a water buffalo, right? You know what they say. The way you eat an elephant is a little bite at a time, right? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. But, yeah, so at the end of the day, I learned so much.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I didn't know that komodo dragons protect their eggs and you know i mean do they protect their eggs or they know that wild boar are going to come try to eat their eggs right so therefore it's a great place to wait around for lunch i mean it's kind of a catch-22 right i mean it works both ways i've actually eaten wild boar oh yeah well the wild part was when I went to Komodo, we went out in the middle of the night. Yeah. And they go, let's go. We'll go to the nesting area because in nesting areas, they like to hang out there because
Starting point is 00:16:54 some of them have nests. And we went out there in the middle of the night and it was kind of spooky realizing, you know, I pull snake eggs, right? Yeah. And these snakes are multi-generation captive born and still one out of five will be one to rock my world because they don't they're like hey i trust you but i don't trust you enough to take my eggs right right because that's just so instinctually deep so here i am in the middle of night with a light and there's a komodo dragon and you know i'm thinking to myself that thing charges me in pitch dark that That's pretty gnarly. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:25 But again, what was I doing? Looking more. So sometimes a little stupid. People always say, oh, you got giant balls. And I'm like, maybe it's I have a little brain. That's another way of looking at it. But you know what? Somehow I'm still alive. And I know, I mean i do i somehow i'm still alive and i
Starting point is 00:17:46 know i mean obviously things can go wrong doing anything i mean i've lost tons of friends on motorcycles you know i've taught i've lost i was a commercial fisherman i lost friends commercial fishing fishing yeah oh i mean you when you're out i mean i've one time was in a boat when i was actually i started my life out as an orphan and and I built a boat when I was 14, finished it when I was 15, became a commercial fisherman. Well, imagine a 15-year-old in a boat that he built going out 40 miles, 50 miles. Right. In an ocean that gets.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Well, one time I got caught in a 100-mile-an-hour wind in that boat. Holy crap. And everybody wrote me off as dead. Wow. And I literally thought I was going to die and luckily for whatever reason I've never been scared of death I think it's because
Starting point is 00:18:32 I believe that we're spiritual beings in a you know living in this world and that this is just a temporary place so I guess maybe that's one of the reasons why I feel that way so I've never been fearful of death just a temporary place so i guess maybe that's one of the reasons why i feel that way and uh so i've never been i've never been fearful of death i don't i don't want it i don't want to
Starting point is 00:18:50 hunt it i'm not looking for it i want to make an impact on the planet as positive as i can and so why would i want to have live risky and you know a lot of people think i do but i don't really believe i do i think i live within think I live within the reason of knowledge that I understand. Yeah. It's subjective. I mean, you're an expert in what you know. Right. For normal people, they think it's risky.
Starting point is 00:19:15 You stick me on a motorcycle and me and somebody else might die. You know what I mean? Because, I mean, when I was very young, it's funny. I've only met one person ever in my life. When I was really young, I got on a mini bike, and I tweaked it and got it to go super fast. And I realized that I had no governor. Are you interested in coming on the Digital Social Hour podcast as a guest? Well, click the application link below in the description of this video.
Starting point is 00:19:44 We are always looking for cool stories, cool entrepreneurs to talk to you about business and life. Click the application link below. And here's the episode guys like in my mind like like nothing scared me and i realized don't ever ever ride motorcycles you're gonna die and it was it wasn't that i was scared of riding motorcycles yeah it was just i knew it would be a bad life choice for me you know know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, it sounds really funny, you know. It's like, there's some things you just not, you know, you just should have a little bit of fear for. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:11 And I wouldn't call it fear still, I'd call it respect. And I just, sometimes some things I just don't have enough respect for. And I didn't have enough respect for getting bit for a venomous snake. But when I was 22, I learned really quick what that felt like. Oh, you got bit i almost died jesus yeah so it was one you were breeding uh no i was out in the wilderness and you know i got bit i basically i had caught in a couple of them barehanded you know wow and i just never thought they were that dangerous you know i mean and and uh i just thought you know like oh yeah you get sick no big
Starting point is 00:20:45 deal you know i'm invincible you know i mean when you're 23 years old you know everything you're you know you're invincible yeah you know i mean i was on the top of my game i had a lot i i started my own business at you know i mean i was no dad, nobody helping. I'd created my own little world, had three cars. I mean, kind of like for somebody from the bottom, it was very successful. For sure. I mean, I always, and basically, I was flipping this giant piece of metal with a guy and it had five rattlesnakes underneath it. And one of them decided to come towards us and i didn't want to drop the metal right and this one decided who are you boy and it just basically coiled up and i blocked its bite at one time and then i pinned its neck and and i had a you know this was forever ago when
Starting point is 00:21:40 vans were you know six dollars i think i paid for my vans and i had a pair of vans the regular old you know slip-on vans yeah and one tooth one fang just went right in my foot on the side of my foot and i was like oh bummer and i was like nah no big deal i just go home told my friend maybe we had to go home yeah well as we were driving home i said maybe we had to drive by a hospital and then we went by a construction site. I said, maybe we better call 911. And I almost died. I was seven days intensive care.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Oh, my gosh. Big page of clinging to my life and the whole nine yards. And it was a pretty intense event. Wow. This was in Cali? Which gave me some respect. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:24 It made me understand that i didn't know what i thought i know and that's when you can't get hurt yeah you gotta you gotta you know i i take calculator risks or i like to say you know wow so you valued their lives over yours in that moment yeah you know what's funny is i've had a i've had a yeah because i mean i don't i mean i i truly even though my animals eat animals, even though I eat animals, even though I still think every animal needs to be treated with respect as much as possible, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:54 Sometimes people wouldn't, you know, don't, I mean, a lot of people don't agree with me about a lot of stuff. Yeah. But I watch the education and, you know, I mean, people pick on SeaWorld, right? A lot, yeah. But when I was a kid nobody cared about any of those animals they shot them they ate them they they did whatever they needed to do i mean they and people did it for sport for fun and then sea world came along educated the
Starting point is 00:23:20 whole world showed us how amazing animals are and everything's protected for because of it you know i mean and so there's a cost of everything right you go to the hospital and they're running experiments people die you know people are dying of cancer every day but at the end of the day you know you can't beat up a hospital because it's bad because, because people die there and you can't beat up a, you know, SeaWorld because they were the only reason why, and I mean, half the people that beat up SeaWorld are biologists and they weren't biologists,
Starting point is 00:23:55 but until SeaWorld made it a big deal to become them, become that. Dude, they got so much hate. Are they still in business? Yeah, they are still all over. They just opened a new one out.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Oh, they did? In Abu Dhabi. I thought I saw something where they gave up all their whales or something. I think they gave up their whales. I think they agreed to give up the whales. Well, the whales and the sharks are a tough one because I feel like it's tough to have that much space for them to be happy, right? Sharks is a touchy subject with me just because i know how many sharks there really are what do you mean well i remember one time i went out shark fishing right
Starting point is 00:24:32 yeah and it was for a thrasher shark well thrasher sharks are everywhere they're commercially they're you can commercially fish them you know i mean they're they're they're everywhere okay and they taste good you eat them just like you would any other fish in the ocean and everybody just got down on me you know and i was like you realize that these are more abundant than cattle or growing i mean they're literally in the ocean right so there So there's no chemicals to grow them. We're not cutting down the rainforest to make it. I mean, there's so many things that people don't think about, right? And they're so abundant.
Starting point is 00:25:14 But, you know, I am so against finning. It's not even funny. What's finning? Finning is when they go catch sharks, cut their fins off, and throw them back in. Oh, what the hell? Yeah, and they don't save any of the meat. That's nuts. Wouldn't that **** them?
Starting point is 00:25:28 Yeah, exactly. They just all die. So just slaughter them. And that's when it became uncool to go shark fishing. And so there are plenty of animals in the world that need to be managed. But you can't manage one and not the other. You know what I mean? So you can't take all the management off a shark.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Like, okay, sharks are protected, right? Eventually, you have no fish. Yeah. You know what I mean? There's no balance because you got fishermen intervening. It's like in California, the seals are outrageously overpopulated and so because the seals are overpopulated the fish counts are way down and the seals are way sick you know i mean then the white sharks start to come up which are protected which should be because there's not very
Starting point is 00:26:19 many but now you know whales are eating them orcas are them. And there's a couple pods of orcas. It's so complicated, right? Yeah. It's all a balance, right? You know what? You have to manage your own life. And if you're going to manage the earth, you've got to manage the earth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:34 You can't make everything illegal because if you do, all of a sudden it's out of balance. Right? So it's illegal to catch a shark right now? No. In some places they make it okay and and you know what in some places it needs to be illegal right right i mean i'm not suggesting that it's you know lily you know just be willy-nilly and do whatever humans want to do because we don't make good choices i can't argue that one no you know i mean but also we make poor choices on knee jerks you know i mean
Starting point is 00:27:08 so we need to like stand back and go hey is everything in balance here right and we need to do that in our own lives yeah right yeah that's a good point um yeah turtles endangered i see i saw you have some tortoises and turtles yeah i have i have i have some uh i have an endangered Galapagos tortoise. And, you know, I think they're great. And I think it's really great that they're not taken out of the wild. Yeah. But I think it'd be better if we were able to, you know, if I have one and somebody else has one in Arizona, I think we should be able to breed those two together
Starting point is 00:27:42 and make more in captivity. But they make laws to prevent that from happening. That's weird. Why would they prevent that? I don't know. We'd have to ask the federal government. Yeah, that's how the federal government made a lot of it. Wow. That's interesting. It's called Lacey Act. You can't take endangered species across state lines. I think the idea is simple, but I think it's kind of the past.
Starting point is 00:28:05 And it's like, the past. Yeah. And, you know, and it's like, okay, well, if you can't take it across state lines, then every state you cross is another place you can get caught. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And smuggling animals. But animals that are in captivity, I don't think should be, I don't think they should be managed like that.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I think that they should be allowed to let them. I mean, I found that even in the snakes and reptiles that weren't endangered, right? And in captivity, they're so abundant that now nobody needs them out of the wild. You know what I mean? They're nice animals. They're accustomed to being in captivity. They're very calm, cool, collect. A snake spends most of his time hiding to eat that's ideas it hides to keep from getting eaten and it hides to find its food
Starting point is 00:28:53 because as rodents go by they grab them and then now they have what they need and they don't come out unless they really are for breeding and other reasons so you don't even see many snakes right that's why yeah i barely see them yeah but they're there yeah you know i mean and so in captivity it's it's it's an animal that doesn't require much space they don't you know if we open this door here i guarantee you i put a 20 a 10 foot snake if i put two 10 foot snakes in this room they will be living inside this cabinet if there's a hole to get to it wow and they'll spend 90 of their time there wow so they're very easy to manage
Starting point is 00:29:30 yeah they just like they they you know people go that doesn't seem right and i'm like well we we don't live in the wild anymore do we there's a reason why we don't live in the wild yeah all you gotta do is go outside and you know why. Oh, it's hot. Oh, it's cold. Oh, my gosh. What was that sound? I mean, lions and tigers roaring.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I mean, you hear them at night. You never want to, you know, coyotes. You realize this is not a good place. The first thing you're going to go do is crawl into a small area. And what do we do when we live in the middle of our big cities and we go home, we lock our door. And then we go into a room, right? A smaller room inside that room.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And then we go in our bed and then most of us like to even be covered up with our sheets. But then we don't understand that an animal, we think that these animals are like so much different. But they really aren't. That's true. I've seen you with every animal, different, but they really aren't. That's true. I've seen you with every animal, lions, giraffes, tigers.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I've been a really, really, really lucky guy. I've been able to go all over the world. I've been in royal palaces. They share their animals with me. It's absolutely insane some of the stuff I've got to do. That's why I did a contrast from having no mom no dad nowhere to live basically it you know to literally being in some of the most amazing houses all over the world in every country yeah and i just i'm in awe yeah you know i mean
Starting point is 00:31:01 i'm in awe it's a crazy story man no it it doesn't it doesn't even make sense it doesn't it makes no sense and uh i just sit there and think this isn't by accident it you know i mean i'm not i'm not suggesting i did it i just it just i know what you mean i think everything happens for a reason i i really do some of the worst things in my life growing up i have a lot of stories of not good things that happened in my life. Every one of them, something great came from. I think that's what contributed
Starting point is 00:31:32 to your success, honestly. I never allowed anything to stop me. When I say that, I never allowed to make it sound like it's all about me, but what I mean is I never gave up the spirit of I can do this. it's going to come together and i just think that there's some real serious power in believing in your dreams
Starting point is 00:31:53 and believing i mean at the end of the day if you don't believe you can do something will you ever really put in enough percentage of your ability to ever do it, we'd all want to succeed, right? Right. But we listen to people that, you talked about haters earlier, right? Yeah. Well, if you're doing something, you're going to have haters. And if you listen to them, they're going to make you believe that they're right. And if they tell you you don't know what you're talking about,
Starting point is 00:32:22 you're risking your life, all these things that are are some of them sound logical but you know inside and if you know inside and you're willing to just kind of think you know what what does tomorrow look like if i wasn't worried about trying to get that job that i don't think i'm qualified for but maybe i am because i really feel like I'm good at it. You know what I mean? Or be that basketball player or be whatever. I mean, I just think you've got to do whatever you're good at as hard as you can do it,
Starting point is 00:32:54 and you'll end up in places you never dreamed. Absolutely. Do what you can control. Don't think about the other stuff. The other stuff works its way out. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've been in situations where there was no way I could get all the problems solved if i sat down and looked at the problems but i could see past to get me further closer to the goal yep and i would just
Starting point is 00:33:16 think okay well i'm not going to worry about the impossible part i'm going to do what's impossible what's possible and i kept working on what's possible and half the time they worked me right past the impossible I didn't even need to even need to do that because I found a different angle a different way because and I only got it because I got the perspective of moving forward kind of by faith you know I mean by whatever you want to call it you know step by step yeah it's been fun man before we wrap up if you can own any animal that you haven't already owned what animal komodo dragon just because i know i could have a relationship with it and i know that sounds really weird but uh a relationship that's deep enough
Starting point is 00:33:58 that it would know who i am i know who it is it would come to me for you know it would be it's like a dog wow it's I think it's deeper than a dog in some ways but damn no I guess that's not fair to say dogs are pretty pretty they have another side of them that's like the loving side that an animal that a lot of animals can't portray as good as a dog I Yeah, dogs are loyal, man. They are loyal, loyal, loyal. And so I guess that's a little bit of a far step. I've had a few dogs, but it will still literally come over for affection. And I guess being able to give is something that's fun in life.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I think a lot of people don't realize that giving is the most rewarding thing you can ever do. For sure. You know what I mean? Yeah. Except that if they stop and think when they get, then they can realize how important giving is. Yeah. And so having an animal that, you know, you have a relationship enough that you can, it'll come over just to be petted, just to be touched.
Starting point is 00:35:01 It's kind of like a bond and you're able to. Absolutely. Yeah. So it's kind of a cool, cool animal. able to absolutely yeah so it's kind of a cool cool animal it's been fun man where can people find you uh everything i do is jay prehistoric pets and then the reptile zoo my daughter does and that's the name of my company nice where's the zoo out uh it's in fat valley california or you know about 15 minutes uh disneyland okay i gotta check it out next time i'm out there yeah let's do it
Starting point is 00:35:25 no you next time you're out there i thought you're going today i'm going to san diego is it by there yeah it's all like it's 45 minutes 50 minutes let me make it happen all right thanks for coming on man pleasure all right guys thanks for watching as always see you next time

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