Digital Social Hour - Greg O' Gallagher On Best Supplements for Testosterone, Why Every Man Should Have a 6 Pack & Fasting | DSH #198
Episode Date: December 25, 2023On today's episode of Digital Social Hour, we sit down with Greg O' Gallagher to find out why testosterone levels are dropping every year, why every man should have a six pack and why Greg hates loud ...chewers. APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://forms.gle/qXvENTeurx7Xn8Ci9 BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com SPONSORS: HelloFresh: Free breakfast for life at https://www.HelloFresh.com/dshfree with code dshfree Opus Pro: https://www.opus.pro/?via=DSH Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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So now there's this huge trend of taking testosterone.
What do you think of that for the long term?
I don't think it's the best thing for long term,
unless you have an underlying health issue.
Destroy your body's ability to produce testosterone.
Wow, I didn't know that.
Yeah, brain injury, testicular injury.
I was unlucky as a kid where like a few times I got hit hard.
In the balls.
In the balls.
Oh my God, dude.
Ladies and gentlemen, we got Greg O'Gallagher on the show today how's it going
man it's going great dude i'm pumped to be in vegas yeah first time in five years you said
first time in five years yeah i did like i did like three vegas trips one summer i was like i
need a little break yeah that's probably too many especially if you're partying and stuff yeah are
you out of that phase now though uh i'm definitely out of that phase um but you know my buddies and
i we just love coming to Vegas, do a little gambling.
It's fun.
We've got some great restaurants here.
Phenomenal.
Honestly, Vegas might be the best restaurant city in the country.
Literally.
Yeah, I was at SW.
It's good.
Dude, any steakhouse is good here.
There's like 50 of them.
You can't go wrong.
But right now you're in Miami, right?
I spend part of the year in Miami, part of the year in Toronto.
Toronto.
Okay.
So you grew up in Canada?
Grew up in Canada. G grew up playing hockey and all that.
Okay what's the biggest thing you've noticed difference wise from Canadians and Americans?
You know what's crazy is I don't notice too much of a difference like I live in Toronto
and I come to the States I spend time in New York LA etc yeah so I don't I don't see a crazy
huge difference.
Yeah I guess because you're in a major
city in canada it's it's kind of similar to like yeah major city here yeah the major cities are
pretty pretty like-minded yeah um but i know you're huge into health so when did that journey
start was it at a young age or kind of later in life the i was very interested in health and
strength and muscle when i was extremely young like as a six
year old six a six year old i've had action figures i i started watching like i watched
terminator for the first time when i was six and van damme and stuff like that and so it was planted
in my mind very early i wanted to have that strength and power so as a very very young kid
i wanted to train at like nine or ten like my father had like a dumbbell and I was like I wanted
to do curls and get the pump going so like as soon as I could I wanted strength and muscle I thought
it was so cool I was I I was very drawn to like the action heroes and stuff like that interesting
now I want you to address this myth because I was told this growing up um you you're not supposed
to lift when you're younger because it stunts your growth or something yeah so there's a whole idea that like as a young teenager lifting weights will stunt your growth
it's largely been disproven assuming you use proper form correct weight now if you're young
and growing and you're not lifting with good form i mean that's probably a bad thing to do but um
you're always going to have like impact. So
for example, there's going to be more impact jumping than squatting 200 pounds. Um, so
lifting weights done safely is totally fine as a 13, 14, 15 year old. Now, if you're a 13 year old
going to the gym by yourself and trying to like do one rep max is that's going to be a bad idea.
Yeah. It's such a myth where I grew up it scared me from lifting honestly yeah well you grew very very tall so well i wanted to grow tall so it scared me from not being able to do that yeah so
you know it's been just it's been disproven um but you when i was the same age like you know i'm
a 91 so when i was 10 11 12 that's what everyone was saying yeah um
but you know i i got there's four boys in my family and uh you know we all kind of lifted
weights um but my youngest ended up being like six two so he was like my youngest sibling i ended up
being very tall wow that's dope yeah and your whole philosophy is all natural right yes so now
there's this huge trend of taking testosterone what do you think of that for the health um so i think that most people are jumping on trt it's not
necessary not like the best move um so if you're a 20 something year old 30 something year old the
best thing to do is get your testosterone levels to a great place naturally there is so much you
can do to improve your testosterone levels naturally as far as the right nutrition training sunlight rest balancing out
stress taking the correct supplementation so there's so much you can do to get your testosterone
levels to a very good place naturally there's also a lot working against you in this in this
modern climate like right we've seen a massive drop in testosterone levels 40 since the 80s
but it can be corrected naturally if you know what to do um now jumping on trt in your 20s and 30s
um i don't think it's the best thing for long-term quality of life and unless you have an underlying
health issue if you have some underlying health issue where you just simply cannot bring your
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concussions a lot of times brain injury can actually um destroy your body's ability to
produce testosterone wow i didn't know that yeah brain injury uh testicular injury um i was unlucky
as a kid where like i've a few times i got hit hard in the ball in the oh my god dude oh my god
but i was fine i i bounced i bounced back i was fine but but I have heard of a guy I was actually talking to
like Michael Sartain when I was on his show um a year ago and and he was talking about like his
buddy got like kicked by a donkey in the nuts and it was he was done so yeah so if you had like some
sort of serious health in uh issue or injury you cannot produce it and yes that's the best possible move um but what you
will see when you go on trt is fertility levels will come down massively um so if you do plan on
having children you really want to wait till after you have children to do trt if possible um now the
the question on trt is different when you are talking about a 50 year old male when a guy
you can actually maintain very good testosterone levels well into your 30s even your 40s but from
50 onward that's when typically levels will start to decline right um they thought it was 30 but if
you maintain proper nutrition training so on so forth you can do great in your 30s and then
really kind of mid 40s to 50s is when you see that drop off so that's a different discussion
um for someone that wants to introduce that in their late 40s and 50s and i've talked to men that
are um that are in their late 40s that are natural and they're feeling great and strong and have good
t levels and that's awesome but but like you can see natural jack guys at 45 but at 60 65 you do see that drop off yeah that makes sense i never
realized how important testosterone was until i got my blood taken and uh started doing natural
ways like you said to increase it and dude i feel way better it's not even close amazing yeah did
you uh did you get a starting and a starting t level and then yeah so i started at 552 which is i don't know if that's low but it's
kind of that's pretty it's pretty average average yeah but then when i got it to 800 dude i haven't
been sick since awesome like i don't get sick i feel energized i did it all naturally yeah like
there's people injecting stuff in their ass or whatever. But I mean, I feel like you could just treat it naturally.
You definitely can.
And there's certain minerals that support testosterone production that are also very
good for immune function.
So if you're taking zinc, for example, very good for immune function and help support
testosterone.
And your ability to produce more testosterone is actually linked to your immune system.
That makes sense because I haven't been sick.
Yeah.
And simple stuff like zinc. There's one Tongkat Ali. Tongkat Ali is very, very good. Pine tree pollen. testosterone is actually linked to your immune system. That makes sense because I haven't been sick.
Simple stuff like zinc, there's one Tongkat Ali.
Tongkat Ali is very, very good.
Pine tree pollen, vitamin D. So just simple stuff, nothing too crazy.
Yeah, those are the simple stuff, the basics.
The three minerals that are very good for testosterone production, zinc of course, magnesium
is really good and it benefits testosterone production in athletes and sedentary people.
It actually increases your total testosterone.
Boron is very good.
Boron is very anti-estrogenic.
And right now, the average person, literally across the world, we are consuming, even in food, phthalates, little microplastics. And it literally adds up an entire week.
I just read this thing where it's equivalent to eating a credit card in plastic in your food what yeah so it's like it's like it's like
five or seven grams in plastic you take in per uh in a week and it's getting leached into different
foods even if you put on a body wash you know if you go to the whatever the cvs is you buy
just regular body wash it's loaded with perfume and perfume's got fragrances and phthalates,
and you're literally rubbing on all these endocrine disruptors into your skin.
If you're going and buying laundry detergent, you want to get unscented.
The scented stuff has tons of phthalates.
And so most people, if they don't know better,
they're loading phthalates onto their skin,
which absorbs effectively everything.
They're eating foods with higher amounts of phthalates.
And then if you're wearing underwear, check the label.
Is it cotton or is it polyester?
The polyester can literally reduce your sp**t count such that you can't even conceive kids.
So don't do polyester.
If your phone is in your pocket, you want to keep it on the airplane as much as possible. You don't want to be going hours your phone is in your pocket you want to keep it on airplane as much as
possible you don't want to be going hours with your phone in your pocket um radiating so that's
not great for production and also there's some research that shows it reduces testosterone too
so there's all these things kind of coming at us that deplete your body's ability to create high
testosterone and with testosterone you have your
total right so you took your total from five something to 800 which is very good but you also
have your free testosterone how much of that is actually unbound and that unbound testosterone
is really what's linked to all the all the things we think about of testosterone putting on muscle
ambition drive energy it's really that free testosterone right um and so um for example
that tonga is not just good at increasing total it actually helps unlock more free testosterone
yeah it just feels like we're constantly dodging things that harm your body but it's everywhere
we're constantly but you know what i have this idea that like you know i think that you know
our our bodies naturally want to be in peak shape.
So if you just get out of its own way and you do the correct steps, you can get to a good spot.
And there's a certain amount of tolerance your body can handle or a certain amount of phthalate, a certain amount of radiation, it can handle that.
But when it gets too high, then the currents are working against you.
And so the Tong, Gatoline,ine the boron are helpful for solving for that
because they help reduce that uh estrogen and so you can helps your body kind of produce more
testosterone so if you a simple thing for people to do is eliminate um fragrances especially those
in body wash and scented detergents limit using cologne and stuff like that and then it extends
like people have hair sprays have tons of uh
fragrance they use air fresheners and in their place no i can't stand it sometimes i'll get
into like an uber and if i open the door and it just hits me in the face i just cancel i cancel
but i'm like a 30 minute ride i'm not breathing this in for 30 minutes um but there's so but so
you want to eliminate as much as you can eat very high quality food take correct supplements and then really like two of the most powerful which is unfortunate because um this is
what most people don't get right now is they don't get very high quality sleep high quality sleep and
most people even if they think they're getting good sleep oh i get seven eight hours you're not
getting high quality sleep and they don't get correct amount of either vitamin d through supplementation or sunlight those two are really foundational
like if you're looking at the pillars of creating great health and you know we talked about this
before the episode some people go way too far down the rabbit holes and do some weird things
if we want to talk about the highest roi levers it's lifting weights right it's walking it's good nutrition and then really sleep and
sunlight like if you can do those keys you're going to be in a really really good spot and so
sleep is massive um there's even some research that shows that if you get subpar sleep let's
say five hours compared to eight hours your ability to gain muscle goes down like 40 that's a lot
it's a lot so like let's say you're doing a let's say you're trying to get lean and cut 10 pounds
and then you know you get five hours sleep versus eight hours your ability to maintain muscle while
cutting is massively worse when your sleep is is subpar and so with sleep you want to get obviously
the right duration of sleep but it's's like, you need blackout.
You cannot have-
You can't have light coming in.
Like I know firsthand, if I just have like the last two
hours of light coming in, I'm exhausted all day.
It's a night and day difference.
So you want blackout, you want to sleep colder.
Your body can induce sleep and produce melatonin
more effectively when your body
is cooler so you want cool you want dark and then i don't even like to have my cell phone in the same
room have like people sleep their cell phone like under their pillow right next to them
is not good so keep your cell phone away you want to get if you can just sort of a little bit sort
of move back to kind of like this pre-modern era of life as far as kind of
keeping some technology away at least when you're sleeping i think it's very important and not
having your phone and blast it on but so there's a lot of things but don't worry like i've helped
men literally increase their t to 300 points with different training nutrition lifestyle strategies
supplementation with our products mojo that has a lot of those ingredients we talked about and so men can literally increase their levels um to a great
spot and it's interesting like you said the difference it makes when you're when you're
lower first when you increase it like you put on muscle you have more energy you have more drive
i've seen people just simply become more successful simply by increasing their tea
production absolutely it's night and day night and day what's the lowest tea you've seen um i mean i've seen guys that were under that were
young that were kind of in the 300s at a young age it's scary yeah 300s is really like to give
people context like the average tea levels in the 80s and stuff like that were probably around for
men 700 um now they're closer to like the 500 you'll
see more a lot of men the average man these days somewhere in the four to five hundred range so if
you're 600 and up you're in a good spot um and that's total again you want to have the right
proportion of free testosterone too so because you can have high i've seen people that have had 700
800 total but they only had one percent of that was unbound. You want at least 2% to be unbound.
So that could be a big difference.
You have two people at 800 and they have completely different amounts of free.
So yeah, so 400 to 500 is kind of average these days.
And then under 400 is really when you're going to see a lot of issues.
And especially if you're kind of at the 300.
And I recommend literally every single man that's watching this whether you're 21 or 31
or 41 you want to get your levels checked you want to know where you are um because having that
starting point's very important let's say you had a concussion or let's say you got hit you had like
a little you got hit in the nuts or something
happened or you just wake up you feel different it's helpful to go and be like oh you know what
actually you know what i'm fine my levels were the same as what they were before or oh my god like
my levels are down 200 points since i had this really bad concussion yeah you want to get this
information then you also want to get that starting point and be like well at 22 my levels were 650 not 32 i'm also 650 so this is great i'm
maintaining my level so i think for men it's very very important to do a whole um you know
get all your blood work done and uh and then there's other health markers you want to look at
so there's luteinizing hormone fsh that are linked to fertility and stuff so if you look at someone's
blood work that's on um anabolics they're
on testosterone they're on different steroids you're going to see their precursor hormone
hormones like lh luteinizing hormone that's linked to fertility completely shut down from steroids
yeah so that so completely shut down um and become either very very low under the natural range or
sometimes even undetectable so um that's kind of one of the ways where you can actually see is someone using anabolics. And typically LH won't rebound,
takes like six to nine months to rebound if someone goes on gear and goes off. And so LH is
really important. Yeah. Are you concerned with the drop in fertility rates? Because it seems like
so many things causing it but um as a country you
know we can't repopulate if this continues going on yeah so like the same drop almost like to the
exact proportion that we're seeing with uh testosterone we're seeing with fertility right
so if we're seeing a 40 percent reduction testosterone we're seeing almost a 50 percent
reduction in fertility jeez that's so high yeah so it's it's pretty staggering um but
there's not much education right on like it's starting to build up like i've been going down
a rabbit hole into this stuff for the last i mean really intensely the last couple years um but but
you know i've been looking into this stuff for you know five plus years but um fertility is coming
down pretty hard i am confident
though if you know what to do you can get yourself to a good spot and you can get yourself to like a
really really good spot um but again like literally polyester underwear absolutely terrible for
fertility um being overweight you know the majority of americans and even north americans
um are overweight right and then you know there's you know a pretty majority of Americans and even North Americans are overweight, right? And then,
you know, there's, you know, a pretty high percentage are considered medically obese, which people think obese and they think someone that's really big, like 280 pounds. Obese is not
that big. A guy that's five foot 10, right? 205 pounds is considered medically obese. So
as your waistline gets bigger your t levels go down fertility goes
down uh that's also why you know women naturally when they see a man that has more of a taut waist
and broader shoulders it signals strength protection and fertility value um yeah so you
want to get lean healthy and strong you want to use natural like wear cotton underwear uh sleep naked keep your
phone away from your nuts as much as possible and if you just do mostly those things and eat a
healthy diet then most men should be able to get fertility to a really really good spot
and there's different supplements that can be beneficial for fertility and stuff like that you
can go and do you know get your blood work done see what nutrients you're deficient in take the zinc bond do stuff like that and uh you know and you should be in a very very
good spot but if you just follow the herd you follow the herd you are screwed literally yeah
dude first thing i'm doing when i get home is ordering cotton underwear yeah get the cotton
get the looser fitting cotton underwear check your i mean because a lot that nice, a lot of the stuff that feels really good, right?
A lot of the stuff feels really good is like woven, has like polyester woven into it.
I'm pretty sure mine's polyester.
Yeah, and even your bed sheets, right?
Like sometimes.
Oh, sheets are polyester.
Yeah, because imagine you're sleeping, right?
Imagine you're sleeping and you're sleeping naked and you're like, oh, I'm not wearing my polyester underwear.
Well, guess what?
You got like your package pressed up against against your polyester and it's it's annoying because that sometimes that polyester just they
create this softness you can't replicate yeah um but you sleep on cotton sheets i i definitely
sleep on cotton sheets um and uh you know i'm actually gonna i'm gonna do some more shopping
and find like that the super soft cotton my girl's gonna be so pissed that i'm switching but
yeah i mean you got you got to do
the switch and even even just having like polyester t-shirts on um that can like leak in like i used
to wear the jerseys because they're all polyester they're all the sports jerseys yeah and i had to
stop but i didn't even think about underwear or bed sheets like there's yeah there's a lot that
you don't know about that you're just doing on a daily basis yeah i've been in you know i've been
building like a clothing line for fun on the side.
And I've been looking into different, all these different fabrics.
And now I've had my team switch entirely to, you know, cotton, bamboo, stuff like that and avoid any sort of.
But the fashion industry has really done a big push into these, more of these synthetic fabrics.
Yeah, it's cheaper, right?
It's cheaper for sure.
And if you go to, so if you look, just if you look at some brands you will see what they're using um but
you want to look for natural uh fabrics yeah cotton wool merino wool is good um and then bamboo
is really good stuff like that but then there's also like this little famoose the goose right now
where people are marketing bamboo but they're actually using a synthetic sort of version of bamboo called viscose which is not good um so there's fake bamboo it's
fake bamboo viscose yeah so like a lot of people are marketing oh we got try this bamboo product
t-shirt underwear whatever you look at the label it's just viscose which is garbage yeah anytime
they can make an extra dollar they're gonna do it you know anytime i don't want people listening to kind of feel overwhelmed and just feel like the fetus because there's so many things
just start with one step at a time right good sleep some sunlight the walking nutrition training
and then then start to like cut out some of these perfumes and fragrances and then look at your
clothes and it's really not that hard so don't get don't get you
know this is one of the keys i transform a lot of people and i you don't want people thinking about
the negative you want them thinking about the positive right like imagine how you're going to
feel when you move all these things shutting down your tea production when you wake up and you feel
that drive like the one thing as a man right as a man the one way you know your tea levels are
probably working pretty well is when you wake up to an iron rod.
Yep.
That was the first thing I noticed.
Yeah.
That's a good signal.
If you wake up to a soft noodle, that's not good.
That was me for years.
And then once I raised it, iron rod every day.
The iron rod every day is a great sign, especially if you have to go to the bathroom and do the Superman.
So that's a very very very good healthy sign and so a
lot of men they remember having that when they were in their late teens early 20s and then
somewhere along the lines it just falls off yeah i want to dive into a couple of your controversial
tweets sure uh one of them was you believe every man should have a six-pack yeah why did you feel
that way well you know what the reason is because it's actually not that hard if you know what to do
so let's be honest everyone listening right now if i could snap my fingers and you could have a
six-pack would you want that yeah yes no one is like no i want to be 18 body fat um so it's not
that hard if you know what to do the benefits are massive you know you're lean you're strong you
look good even if you don't want to be shirtless at the pool you know you put on a suit you put on outfit like half the battle
of looking good right whether you're going out for dinner you're on a date you're going to event
half the battle of a suit and outfit looking good is just being fit now having a six-pack really
what it just means is that you have a lower body fat you have a lower body fat with a little bit
of muscle and so um and the leaner you
are within reason i'm not talking about five six percent but if you get to like ten percent nine
ten percent um the leaner you are the higher testosterone levels are they're inversely
correlated the leaner your waist gets the higher testosterone levels are so if you know what to do
it's not hard right like if you're listening right now why don't you have a six pack literally you
wake up you don't eat first a six pack literally you wake up
you don't eat first thing in the morning this is this is how i make it so easy okay you don't eat first thing in the morning wait an hour you have a black coffee okay let's say what time do you wake
up at seven seven a.m okay so you know 8 30 you know you have a black coffee you push that first
meal till 1 p.m fasting is very very easy if you just do five hours if you're trying to fast
all the way to dinner it's very hard trying to do a 24 36 it easy if you just do five hours if you're trying to fast all the way to
dinner it's very hard trying to do a 24 36 it's very hard the first five hours is so easy especially
if you drink a little sparkling water black coffee now by not even for the first five hours now the
calories that you need to let's say your goal is to lose five pounds of fat or whatever let's say
you have 50 pounds of fat to lose the calories you need to eat to be in a
deficit to get leaner well now you have you get to eat like more it feels like more food because
you're not eating for the first uh first five hours of the day and then you eat a moderate
size lunch something to kind of stave off hunger satisfy you nourish you you get to have a big
dinner feast at 6 p.m 7 p.m 8 p.m you choose whenever you want to have your dinner steak
potatoes some broccoli absolutely satisfying and then you can even have some i i finish every
single day every single day when i'm cutting to a low body fat for me i get down to like whatever
seven percent um but every single day i'll have chocolate i'll have some cookies i'll have four
or five hundred calories of a treat every single night and so i'm like and again i i've also had periods where i was eating too much and i wasn't really
tracking my nutrition i was being lazy and when you're not taking care of your body right
you also feel like like you don't feel good like when you're when you're eating too much you wake
up you look you feel like you're gaining fat you look you feel soft you don't have the confidence
when you walk into a room when you're on a date you just kind of have this thing luring behind you of just like not being content with
with how you are and just you have this thing you want to solve i'm not in shape it just kind of
bleeds into your entire day for sure subconsciously subconsciously and i've i've when i was younger i
kind of i had some periods where i would be dining and then i'd fall off and then and i just i remember
the confidence that it would it would really destroy my confidence part of it destroying my
confidence was like why can't i even stick to this diet right it took me a long time to really crack
the code to get lean and so like why why do i keep failing and i realized a lot of the diets
and nutrition protocols protocols i was trying to do either they weren't designed to work or they
were just simply unbearable they were for for their short term. Yeah. You need a lifestyle approach. So the point there is that
you can literally fast, eat a nice, delicious lunch, big dinner feast, chocolate or cookies
at night, stay in a deficit, go for a little walk every day, hit the gym twice, lift weights twice
and wake up chiseled and have a six pack anyone can do it how long
would it take if someone had a flat belly to get a six pack like a year let's say someone is 18
body fat which is pretty average for a 22 year old right so you're 18 body fat to have a clear
six pack would require you to be at 10 right so you got to cut at least eight percent body fat
now assuming they're around 190 200 pounds you know they need to lose at least two
pounds per body fat percentage right so they got to lose at least 16 pounds and you can do that
and if you want to do it slow and enjoy the process and really be able to either maintain
or even rebuild a little bit of muscle while you do it take you about four months oh that's not
bad four months to get a six-pack if you stick to it and if you commit.
If you hit your two workouts a week and you eat your chocolate at night.
Wait, only two a week?
I do two a week.
Sometimes I'll do three.
Oh, I thought you meant two a day.
No, I do two workouts a week.
Oh, that's not bad at all.
Yeah, this idea that you need to be in the gym all the time is completely and absolutely garbage.
It's wrong.
What you need to do to build an amazing physique as a natural is you need to go into the gym and push for a personal record you get stronger yeah i need if
i want to put 10 pounds of muscle on someone i need to take their incline bench press up you know
30 pounds we got to we got to get if you're doing incline presses with 150 we gotta get you up to
180 if you're doing weighted chin-ups with 20 pounds we get you up to 50 as you get stronger
on key lifts you'll build muscle and when you train less you know it doesn't have to be two days
three days a week is typically what i i i um you know what i coach people on my latest program is
actually the lazy rep it's two days um but if you get stronger and and you really focus on doing
less you can hit more personal records.
You recover and you build muscle while you're resting, not while you're in the gym.
So I've tested it all.
I was obsessed with fitness since I was 13, 14 years old.
I tested training six days a week, five, four.
The sweet spot really is three days.
Three days is perfect, but I've even seen really good results with two.
Yeah, that's impressive one
more tweet and then we'll wrap this up i thought this one was funny you don't like loud chewers
no i hate it what is it about the loud chewing that gets to you so i think there's this there's
this thing called misophonia and it kind of like it onsets like as soon as like you kind of hit
puberty 13 years old it onsets i remember just i was at some show or something and then just some kid was just chewing some candy so loud and it was the first time i really had this like almost like this
adrenaline spike to this chewing i literally had like adrenaline like i wanted to like go into a
fight or something it's it's it's it's like it's actually a real thing it's like a it's like a
central nervous system response to something yeah it's it's so um i really do not like loud
chewing what about gum uh if yeah if if someone's chewing gum very i mean you could chew gum and not
it be obnoxious but someone's chewing gum really loud drives me crazy um no some if someone's
breathing like through their nose i hate the loud breathers though i had a kid behind me in science
class yeah oh my i still have nightmares about it yeah and like also like if you're if you're sick around me like why are you being
sick around me like if someone's just like like i just i can't do i couldn't even i couldn't do
university man because university everyone everyone in university's sick dude everyone
airplanes when someone's sick by me i hate it oh yeah university too yeah i couldn't i couldn't
really learn and focus because you're in an auditorium with 300 people and then everyone is cough every five seconds you hear
someone coughing facts it's just like the university is filled with sick people man just
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