Digital Social Hour - He Sells Luxury Cars for a Living! | Nick Dossa Digital Social Hour #109
Episode Date: September 21, 2023On today's episode of Digital Social Hour, we sit down with Nick Dossa and we talk about how he build up a 9-figure luxury car brand and where he sees the luxury car market going. BUSINESS INQUIRIE...S/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com APPLY TO BE ON THE POD: https://forms.gle/qXvENTeurx7Xn8Ci9 SPONSORS: Opus Pro: https://www.opus.pro/?via=DSH HelloFresh: https://www.hellofresh.com/50dsh AG1: https://www.drinkAG1.com/DSH Hostage Tape: https://hostagetape.com/DSH LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXa... Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Merchants Bank is a proud member of FDIC. Six and a half and seven and a half. I'll give you that range. What? What do you think about the Ferrari truck?
I think it's cool.
I think it's cool.
Yeah, I saw it.
It's pretty cool.
I have one coming.
Oh, you do?
I'll have one coming.
They were saying that they were sold out.
If you got the right contact, you can go.
I had one customer buy 40-something cars for me.
For real?
He spent over $30 million on me.
That's big.
Yeah, that's big. And that's not normal welcome to the digital social hour i'm your host sean kelly here with my co-host
wayne lewis what up what up and our guest guest today, Nick Dosa. What's happening? How's it going, man? Good, good. Just watched the game three of the Vegas Knights. You're the
official sponsor. Yeah, official luxury car sponsor. So yeah, it's kind of fun and rooting
for them. We lost yesterday, but it's okay. So what'd you drive here today? Cullinan. Cullinan.
Oh, okay. Those are expensive, right? Yeah, about three, four hundred, four hundred right geez five for a black badge yeah
wow depending on which half a mil on a car yeah that's insane man that's normal these days
what can you get for a hundred thousand today a tesla yeah you buy a camry for 65
cameras are 65 imagine that right for a fully loaded camry you know probably get a charger
charger yeah charger yeah hundred grand yeah around there what's like
your average order value when you sell a vehicle like 100k um or sweet spots like 100 150 000
that's the highest aov i've ever heard like that's six figures probably easy well you mean on actual
like what the average car we sell price-wise yeah yeah yeah that's insane
I mean I mean it's it when it comes to exotics gotta had a bankroll but you
gotta have a bankroll you gotta have a bankroll to get it and then a bankroll
to fix it yeah true you gotta have two separate bank accounts for that for one
car why do they break down a lot no well no it's not that they break down a lot
is it when it's time to get them fix cost doesn't insurance cover rates and stuff that you got to take off to
even see the engine messing on the Rolls Royce that's where the full service
department you know I mean so we take care of it we have extended warranties
we have also but a lot of stuff's under warranty so yeah I mean when you buy
exotic you kind of know what you're getting into this is the panel they're
they're not needs their wants yeah absolutely but they can their assets i feel like they're 100 yeah during cover they're even
crazier assets i mean you could buy a car brand new and take it off and put online and sell it
for 50 grand more not only that i mean it raises your work um your network is better yeah um people
you start to meet women you date obviously
depending on what your motive is but it's definitely helps the edification
that comes with it I mean it's just it's a different kind of generation now right
here we look at things on Instagram and in social media platforms that are like
oh you know hey this guy drives a McLaren this guy drives a Lamborghini
oh I want to talk to him mmm they don't know the guy that driving the Tesla has the
same amount of bankroll or if not more it's it's it's perception that's that's
the crazy thing but yeah these are these are definitely marketing tools not so
it gets the attention absolutely now how did you get started with this because
obviously this type of industry you need a lot of connections in capital yeah so
I started back in Canada I was born and raised out there and I was going to school and
I was going to school for medical and stuff like that as any Indian you know kid would go to the
right say hey you got a doctor here so he was going through school and doing all that nothing
I was buying and selling cars in class I was making more money than my professor how can I listen to this guy tell me this is what you're gonna you
know go to school you got a school you make 150,000 a year and you know I'm
making three four thousand a car I'm selling ten cars a month while I'm
sitting in class and doing a full course no how's that work so I couldn't justify
it you know so I talked to my mom is a hey listen I gotta I got to do something
different she said well you got to finish your school so I talked to my mom is a hey listen I got a I got to do something different she said well you gotta finish your school so I did that and then
started the car business cliff notes version did it in Canada and then moved
to Vegas to be closer to family so yeah big person wait so how are you flipping
them in class where you just drop shipping them no back then you think
about it like you couldn't do that you had a cell phone and you had the auto
trader book we didn't have online kind of presence like we do now you sign on the auto trader
book yeah man you just buy it you clean it up you take a picture you put it in
the auto trader book and you pay extra for the the color ad or you pay lesser
price of the black and white and yeah that's the hustle right there that's the
hustle you'd have a week right because it's a week every week it would come out so you have you buy it you clean it up get it done fast
put it online so next week you're hoping to sell it you just wait for your phone to ring
and now it's more so like with the internet and social media now you're just selling the lifestyle
still in lifestyle yeah selling the lifestyle that's exactly it you have to you know you have
to learn the business but i think i'm appreciative that i did it like that because I think I got a better value for the business.
I think I understand the business better because of it.
And I know I watched the internet transition happen, how everything kind of went online and started.
So for me, it was like, okay, cool.
I was able to see it gradually go.
And why did you stick with buy-sell and not get into car rentals?
Because I hear there's good margins there.
You know what?
There's a lot of guys that do rentals and stuff.
And one of the bigger guys in town, we started at the same time.
I opened the dealership and he opened rental.
And I said, hey, I'm going to do dealership and you do rental.
We stayed up each other's way.
But for me, I'm a liability person.
I'm very calculated on everything I do.
So when I go to sleep at night, I want to sleep really good.
I don't want to have to have that stress because the minute you pass over your car, it doesn't matter if that person's insured or whatever.
Kill someone, it's still going to come back on you.
You got a problem to deal with.
It doesn't matter.
It's liability.
It's all liability.
So it's calculated risk.
For me, I just, well, I take the risk if I don't have to.
The reward is not enough.
Yeah.
I actually know someone that that happened to.
One of his rentals got in an accident.
The guy died and then he had to sue and he lost a ton of money and when
you get sued you're always fighting the guy sued him the guy so there was two
guys in the car one of them died the guy that survived sued him and he had to pay
cuz the guy died so it's great that's crazy you gotta think like when you get
sued you're on defense mode right yeah offense so you're like you're always defending yourself and you didn't do
anything wrong yeah so why put yourself to that stress
it does seem stressful a lot of cars get in accidents yeah I mean I mean it's
risking in every industry even with selling cars sometimes you know the guys
will rent cars right now and though they'll take it to California wrap the
car because before you got the painting car but cars right now and though they'll take it to California wrap the car because before you have to paint a car but now
you can wrap a car and you know create a digital sticker change the vent goes
out somebody for cash Wow yeah dude did that he saw the hell can
know what it was a rental yeah you do get me 50k for that's insane that way
what about the license plate I mean it's the same plate how is he selling it well I mean you people don't know the difference they just see
a sales sign you got caught when you go register the car you couldn't register
it geez so during kovat that car spike I mean what was your life like cuz that
was great I was having a kid during kovat you know everything was shutting
down and I'm like getting ready to shut the business down because what's just
everything to stop shut down we had to shut it down as in like we were to stop
everything and stop business until everything reopened most people couldn't
do that they were losing their businesses we were able to just close it
off and take some time off which is kind of nice in the way I had a baby during
that time and then all of a sudden they said okay well cars are essential business mmm perfect
let's open up and we're first to market again I had a bunch of inventory so
prices have already gone up but during right when cool it was hitting I was
buying stuff left right and center people were panicking mmm I'll say this
okay cool give me a hundred thousand I'll take it cars with 150 I don't care
I want a hundred give it to me
Wow, it was just she took advantage of it. You have to what's the most expensive car that you got?
Okay, so if you drink Ovid I'll give you that one I bought a Bentley for
150,000 it was a 2020 Bentley GT first edition W12 coupe.
The value on it was?
$380,000.
Yeah, brand new, about $340,000.
What?
And the guy had 1,000 miles on it.
Bought it for $160,000, I think-ish.
Right, like it was your title.
Bought it for $160,000 and turn around and flipped it for 240
overnight overnight yeah that's a full-time salary but those deals don't
happen you know it just it was time in place
it's got a brand new car and where where's the shit yeah but the guy that
need to sell it for him that money was so important because he was preparing
for the worst every every was yeah so why we don't need
those cars and stuff like that anybody that's smart with business and say hey
listen I'll take the cash cash is king let me sit on the cash pile and then
deals come over it what's it like at car auctions what do you have a strategy
going into those I used to do a lot of auctions I don't do as much anymore it's just not it's not a kind of our car culture in a sense we do
get some fillers here and there from other location the cheaper stuff but
otherwise car auctions there's a reason the cars at the auction one and
sometimes dealers just sell in there because they need liquid cash flow to
keep the ball rolling so there is some deals but there's you gotta always check
the cars out you got to know the history do your research make sure things good
you know so you've gotten some like messed up cars at them oh yeah I'm
percent taste in your 100% absolutely yeah because once you buy it to the
auction you can only have so much recourse and by time you get the car
here you inspect it all something's wrong yeah you're taking the L on that you gotta know you gotta
have holes where you buy your stuff and a lot of repeat business for me are you
are you doing consignment to we do a little bit not very much it's most
mostly consignment if I take consignment car that I've already sold to a customer
because again it goes back to hey you're gonna consign the car to me I don't know the history on the
car you know but like my children you gotta think about it if I didn't give
you that it's a liability again calculated risk if I'm selling you a car
I have to be able to stand behind it 100% I can't say hey take this deal with
it on your own that's the worst how do you manage supply chain because I drove
by yesterday looked like you guys have a ton of cars I mean how much money is
actually tied up there which location the Sahara
location I think the main one yeah so we have two there's one on Dean Martin
that's right off the strip and the other one on Sahara but cumulatively between
the two locations about 35 38 million cheese there was like the one on dean martin is uh it's sometimes there's a lot of cars sometimes like that there you know what with this whole uh baseball thing that was happening i had
to make some transitions and so we turned part of it to our service department which we already had
we made it bigger and just amping up because you can't you know just jump from 40 000 square feet
to 80 000 you have to have a little bit of a step in between so that's kind of why some things are transitioning around there but it's usually loaded it's got all that big dollar
stuff in there that's the toy store yeah yeah and i seem i feel like also too with vegas transitioning
into a bigger city and becoming a real city of entertainment you guys don't yeah you guys i mean
the athletes are here yeah they're coming i, the competition is not really there in a sense fully
because you specify on specific type of cars that they want.
The thing is, you know, there's a little bit of luck
and a little bit of timing and a little bit of, you know,
God's work and, you know, some prayer behind it.
And I think that we've made a big enough splash
that we're a little bit ahead of the game overall. name is there it's establishes a household name in town for
sure now and when you're at a certain point you're already big enough that if
someone's to start yes they'll start there's a lot of competition there always
is and I and I love that but I think the leading factors that were the largest by
far right especially in this area yeah you got the most capital
the most clientele you got a head start you certain cars the owners of the
sports teams are customers all the athletes in sports teams locally here
our customers and their friends and then there's you know celebrity clients even
a couple people that just moved to town that are big names or clients, you know everyone I know in Vegas that owns electric
car
So what
For me I look at his dollars and cents I'll take anything if it has profit in it
It doesn't really matter what it is but there's certain cars that are problematic like you know like the Karma so this car karma Fisker karma
they still make it they still they're called karma now but those are trash
yeah those are trying oh man what about McLaren's you'll sell those we sell
we're the only dealership in town that can service them oh really so I have all
the equipment to service McLaren and we sell the most McLaren that have anybody
here in town so yeah Wow Clarence only place I could service them that's great
they're like race cars so they're super specific yeah yeah yeah okay so we have
special text proper text from proper locations that have come over and we
nitpicked and chose the best ones and we built the dream team nice and what cars are just flying off the
shelf they're gone same day you got him
for a while there was a lot of Lamborghini Huracan evos something that
and for a little while it's 488 spiders they go in trend kind of weird you know
like how it works one kid gets it and then yeah other people like it or it's just a trend what's in the market you'll
see market supply go up and down and as it's going down and all those cars get
you know take it out of the market and there's more it's just it's hard to
explain that yeah but it's nothing really just comes and goes right away if
you have the right car and the right price and the right color and the right
options it's gonna go now have you guys got a
kumtosh it um few of them well few of them yeah I seen a purple one I was at
yours no the new kumtosh that was a customer was actually no us yeah yo the
new kumtosh pretty cool oh my goodness what is a remake yeah I'm a fan of the
old one the 8 9 25th anniversary edition I think still the best well I just kind of like that it's a pioneer Lambo and the fact that
they recreated it yeah like supermodels nostalgia to extend it's so rare yeah
how many did they make like 500 I don't know but you don't see them they're
specific but they're going a million over on the circuit yeah you don't see
them like you're not gonna see it so when I see when I was right I thought I imagine
them oh yeah we got a network with that guy whoever owns that yeah a milli for a
car what's the most expensive car like the most against the car I've sold was a
LaFerrari Aperta Wow how much between six and a half and seven and a half I give you
that range why we yeah those are sorry which one a perfect perfect dude cars
are six mil there's some more there's there's car collections that I've been
to in quail where there's a 30 million dollar Ferrari and there like some old
school stuff like stuff you even you even know what it is and I don't even
know because years past my time but yeah it's just
like they're eclectic to that point oh like a collector car like oh yeah like
they don't drive them but they're like you know that makes that so far ahead
that it's that's what they're already made ten of them or so yeah and they're
like five of them been crashed there's five left no yeah if you wanted a Ferrari
could you just go to Ferrari get one or just they're like a waiting list like
Rolex no there's a waiting list I mean this dealership here in town they don't
get very many allocations it's a book so yeah they kind of suffer with
allocations a little bit a lot of guys out of town will get you better cars as
far as new stuff they have more it's about how much volume you do so if you do a lot of volume then you get more allocations got this store here
doesn't do as much volume so they don't get as many but other states San Diego
you know Beverly Hills they get more cars for example you can go in there and
order one and wait for it like a year but if you wanted one brand new sometimes
you walk in a Ferrari in a different state you can go in brand new yeah Wow
what do you what do you think
about the Ferrari truck yeah it's cool that's cool yeah I saw it's pretty cool
it's different right yeah they're hitting the ground now I have one coming
are you they'll have one coming they were saying that they were sold out
yeah they're so that if you got the right contact you can write so is yours
gonna be sold already by the time you mom and someone really bro so you already
got some people in mind?
I got three customers waiting for it.
Wow.
Waiting for one cart.
Yeah.
So what do you do?
You kind of do a bid?
No, I just say, hey, listen, it's available and whoever's ready to cut that check that
day, they can have it.
Okay.
How much you selling it for?
I haven't decided yet.
Once it lands, we see what the market is that day and I'll make sure I discount it for my
customers and that's how I keep my people happy.
Okay. So you're gonna discount it want discount of course 100% I mean
it'll be over MSRP yeah I'm getting it at MSRP right but they're gonna pay over
MSRP right but I'm not gonna charge them crazy like somebody else would yeah
doesn't work you value customer service business on customer service but that
Ferrari truck these words well he could but he values
a long-term relationship I mean so I like you play the short game I play
longer yeah you want them to buy from you again over and over my friend bought
seven cars from them yeah I've had one customer buy forty something cars for me
for real it's been over thirty million dollars me one guy's one day yeah it's
been that's not normal that's not normal because
usually it's like one time you don't like the service or you oversold you or it just wasn't
good so you build a relationship with them like kind of like family you know 100 you have to i'm
available you can call me on my cell phone at midnight i'll never be too big to my britches
like my phone is always my number's out there you want to get a hold of me you can get a hold of me
some people are like oh i own this store i own that store no I'm not available no that's not
how it works you have to really get hold me because if I'm doing something with
you even if I'm doing a salesperson I have an issue I'm gonna call the owner
and say hey what's going on I'll handle it Wow
but you have to not a lot of servers do that no they don't that's what that's
where the fall is right because they're bigger than the company it will be so
too big for their bridges right you. That's what they feel.
Right.
And how do you go about marketing or is everything word of mouth?
We did a lot of marketing in the beginning.
Now it's a lot of word of mouth.
Now it's a lot of referrals.
Yeah.
The product speaks for itself.
Yeah.
He's selling something to a certain group of people.
The thing is though, when these people, they're all like for you, for example, if you got
a car from me, right?
It would come up in one of your podcasts. You would come somewhere saying with you hey i bought it from nick oh cool well
you're credible you're credible yeah great now i became credible so let's you know right just
selling to the right yeah it's on the right people not even that but they just talk right and if they
have a great experience of nothing bad to say like them then then it's on yeah why why not yeah he's gonna discount a ferrari truck for his customers
you don't hear know why he said that especially do you know why though even to the step further
if i discount it and i give it to him a good price i know that guy's gonna be bored of it
in six months he's gonna give it back to me i'm gonna make money on it again right facts
bigger play why do you think a
lot of luxury car dealerships judge you on the clothes you wear when you walk in
you know what that's one thing that's a great question I should love that you
asked that because this is the thing I had a guy come in on a bicycle and buy a
Porsche okay this guy look like a bum flip-flops his nails weren't cut he
looked like a straight trash like honestly that you'd never expect that and we he came in I want to sit in this
car I want to look at this car sure how can I help you it just so happened that
that day I was doing normal treat him like normal like I didn't even that
didn't phase me Wow right and he's like you know what thank you he's like I just
won the lottery actually and so I want to buy a car he told me at the end of
the transaction the wire hit the next morning whoa what made you treat him
normal because that's what makes you like that because when I was 12 or 13
years old I would go into dealerships and I would negotiate deals for my mom
or you know and my brother when they were buying cars and I would negotiate
the deal not one salesperson that took me serious it taught me then like hey look it helps to take you seriously moving back and bought those two
cars that I negotiated you got to just treat everybody equal man like there's no such thing as
oh because I wear you know this brand or that brand I'm so and so it doesn't mean nothing
these are clothes we all eat the same we all sleep the same we all go to the bathroom the same we're
just all normal people we got to help each other just you know cultivate that you don't ever judge someone by how they dress yeah or they have a
deficiency or a lisp or something but why like why why do that just treat everybody 100 100 i
walked in the rolex store that's so solid bro yeah no it's fact i walked in the rolex store in uh
caesars and i was wearing sweatpants and a hoodie no one would talk to me I roll
up my sleeve pull out the 100 100 K watch they come talk to me I'm like I
don't even want to be you know you don't want to do you already got a bad t-shirt
mouth like I walked around the whole store for 10 20 minutes no one even
spoke to you didn't no one yes max the people that have real money and I've
seen a lot of it believe me okay there's
people that come in that are dripping in like brands and diamonds and this and
that and then there's guys that come in that are golf shirts shorts wearing it
like a regular Rolex nothing and they have more money than you can even count
and the people that come in so what's my credit like can i get
can i get approved for this car what's my payment going to be like it's like it's a whole different
ball game right this is when i think i'm a firm believer in that when you're trying that hard
you really don't got it and i know that people that have it they don't show it
true wealth is very quiet right when you have real money you want to talk about it yeah
yeah a lot of the billionaires are they just want they want what they want
yeah it's not too much you know why would they just you know it becomes just
a norm at that point it's just something that makes life a little easier mm-hmm
do you want to expand other cities or you sticking with Vegas definitely
expand working on some stuff out in Utah right now and
that's what I think for wall expand maybe in California eventually but not
right now not for a while Vegas is our main focus but why Utah just in St.
George there's a little bit of a gap there that we're filling right now
already so already have a location getting set up over there okay okay so they don't have
any spot up there no it's not a big enough market for two people to go into
but I just need something there just to facilitate what I'm already doing over
there but Vegas is our main hub and then company culture wise how did you build
such a cool culture you know it comes back to it's not work when you're having
fun mm-hmm right so if you go to work in the more you wake up you're excited to
go there you dress acceptable right to do with people that come in because we
have to look good to deal with people right but you know it's not over the top
where you have to go and wear a three-piece suit and feel stuffy you
want to go be relaxed go and
have fun i have a golf range in my dealership ping pong tables ping pong pinball union like we have
some games stuff like that it's it's the culture is built from within and it all comes from the
person that's leading the group which would be me in that sense and if i'm relaxed i want everybody
to relax if you're not happy i want you to tell me what's going on you know and kind of understand your people everybody has issues people deal with things on a
daily basis some people have illnesses some people have family that has
illnesses and we carry that stress as human beings we're caring people right
so if they're stressed I'm stressed for them and how can I help that situation
so the culture is all about like we got to help each other we're a team and if I
don't have my team I'm nothing I'm just one person I cannot do anything in that place that I could make
it go by myself I am my team right and my team is all together and they all
look after each other you said yes so we did outing at Topgolf for the watch
party for the Golden Knights you shut the dealership got four o'clock so every
go let's all go out and enjoy you know that's that's called culture right because you consider them friends and family and friends and
family of course well work together we have each other's backs you know they're
watching something I don't see I'm watching something they don't see that's
how the culture you got it it's got to be built from within yeah I feel like a
lot of companies just care about the work and not well I mean the happier the happier the employee the longer stay percent yeah let's turn over
you know how to deal with training with people new personalities can't trust
people stuff like that he kind of keeps his core together mm-hmm
it's a good business model okay you have to minutes really it's really important
and that's where people fall and fail you know because they don't they don't
have that culture right you have all the money in the world you
could have the best business but you don't have your team behind you or
nothing hmm how do you deal with money speaking of money is is that like super
important to you or you just do the business part mainly for fun you seem so
grounded yeah I know what I went through to get here you see so grounded like
just you know you already know like you know I know what I went through to get here. You seem so grounded. You already know.
I know what I went through to get here.
I know how hard it was.
I know all the things I went against,
all the people that were against me
even when I was getting my licenses here in town.
Oh, he's never going to make it.
These other dealers in town.
And now they're like, hey, can we be your best friend?
Let's go for dinner.
I'm cool. I'll go for dinner with you,
but I already knew where you came from.
Have you ever worked for anybody ever yeah I
worked at a dealership in Canada for a little bit I wasn't in sales I was doing
buying I was a buyer I had my dealership I opened and sold it off and when it
worked for somebody for a little while obviously we're a buyer you know as a
buyer and basically handle their locations was that a play on just learning the infrastructure absolutely getting the the
basically the blueprint down so you can one day build something that you have now the blueprint
is what you make it right but that being said you got to take a little bit of everything and you got
to create your own blueprint right because if you follow somebody else's blueprint you're following
their vision you know we could
follow your vision if you have your own ideas and you put it all together you
have your own blueprint that you're following we get in life we all follow
our own blueprint and so I believe that's why I went to work for somebody
to learn about that part of that position all right it's something else
another I was in medical sales for what I did to learn a different part of the
position I gotta learn how people think when you're coming in I'm dealing with
you I gotta know I gotta read you right there yeah you know as superficial as
that is but I have to understand not where you're coming from the part of
service yeah that's that's hills yeah that's the psychology of the cells yeah
time comes still if you master absolutely because you can actually see
who you're selling to before you can ask some certain questions you can tell your body language if they got it or not
he can tell I'm sure yeah when you look back the growth of company what were
some big moments or like big setbacks or lessons you you remember you know in the
beginning coming from Canada to here they don't recognize your credit you
know I got a 800 score in Canada but that mean nothing here to be like me being a person that was just born and
have no credit zero doesn't matter doesn't matter if you have a credit card
in Canada doesn't nothing here so I had to start from zero which is like a 250
dollar prepaid credit card imagine that to try and build credit and build credit
like that and you need credit in this business 100% I'm not saying you can't do without credit you have to
have credit to do right and so those are some of the challenges I went through
because they the bank give you a lot of credit to buy the cars if you have good
credit you have the financials and give us the stability and the stuff behind it
to support it I don't know especially right now trying to get a line for
Carson okay man it's impossible the banks are so scared right now trying to get a line for carson no way man it's impossible the banks are so scared right
now really yeah absolutely there's too much like two years to ground too shaky right now
we're not it's just the you got the war you got the currency you got we're we're basically in a
in a recession and has they don't know how bad it's going to get. So they're kind of pulling back a little bit.
Vegas is going to be six months behind the recession.
Why?
Because of the sports teams we have.
We have too much hype at Formula One.
The Knights are doing great.
You got the Raiders here.
You got baseball around the corner.
So many draws.
So there's so many things that are drawing.
But soon enough, it's going to catch up.
It always catches up.
What goes up must come down, right?
Right.
So eventually it's going to catch catch up and we will feel the recession
will it be as bad as most places probably not because this is a place
where people come with a mindset I'm going to Vegas I'm gonna spend money
right right so it's that mindset but we're definitely feel it for sure
enduring the pressure times to depressing times Vegas did travel the
tourism actually
goes up the roses are happy place for them yeah interesting yeah you know so
have you been through a recession in the car industry yes actually I have but not
as not like as bad think about it like this right for example when all these
prices were going up we went through a different kind of session when the
prices started adjusting I want everything super high and this was after
COVID right and early start to adjust I mean you're losing twenty thousand
thirty thousand per car mmm you have to be from time you purchase right from the
answer the price would just drop overnight you know and so how did you
pivot you have to just unload and you have to stay lean yeah you don't make money when you sell
you make money you buy I've always you know said that that's my main thing the
money's made when you buy the car and that's what you're wait for the deals
some people just because they have money available they want to go spend it all
on cars do that don't do that take your time pick and choose your your stuff but
during the market adjusting I had to just take those else mmm Wow yeah and
that's where most people couldn't be they spent that money right they thought
this is never gonna end mmm I have everything I would sell I put money
aside put aside I had to have that slush fund to go back and take that money and
bring all my inventory back to them all right so if you didn't do that you would have been screwed no most people probably would
have called shop or just liquidated everything you can go from having all
the equity could have five hundred thousand dollars in equity in your cars
because your profit late on the table here but that could flip overnight you
have negative 500 how you gonna write the check to that 500 mm-hmm most guys don't have that yeah they don't they
don't they're working on too thin of cash flow to be able to do that and
because of planning and how you structure your stuff you set it up so
that way you're always able to just pivot and move along yeah Wow
learned a lot man you got anything else no i wanted to ask you so when buying cars
do you buy based off trends demands maybe colors or you kind of hear what your customers are saying
or what they're requesting and then you're like okay cool my next set of cards are going to be
these 10 or 15 or these 20 based on this and
how do you what's the mindset going in when you're when you're buying dollars
and cents a little bit everything a lot of it goes into this right so it's like
what my customers want it's also like what's hot for you yeah you're like
what I would I buy that like black on tan interior and clearing like for
example black music that's hot that's a got a look you've heard of this one Would I buy that? Like black on tan interior, McLaren, like, for example, black wheels.
That's hot.
That's got to look.
You've heard of this one that's just black on black, silver wheels.
It looks basic.
People want that stuff that's the nice color combinations, the good specs, good options.
You know, that's what I look for, right?
You've got to find what's kind of the sex factor of it.
Gotcha.
Right?
And that's what really makes it appealing to people.
Because if I have a car online, how is mine different than anybody else's right
right how this besides price McLaren but different from this orange McLaren it's
good it's got to have something to it something about it yeah so you just look
for the uniqueness of a car yes we make unique you know little things like that oh so you make them you sometimes little tricks okay I got you last question what's your dream car I think you got
them all I do I do I mean I love I love Porsche's I'm a big Porsche fan yeah I
have a 91 965 that was one my dream cars I put it aside 18 GT2 RS I just love it
put it aside fire but I think
eventually I think I'd like to just get a lot Ferrari just to have which one
which which year probably go for a 14 14 only made it two years yeah but the
thing is that that was one of the biggest hyper cars that we sold originally and I said
man one day I'm gonna have one of these yeah I can do it now but it's not how
much was it back then I think yeah we flew out yeah my customers jet to go
pick up it was 3.75 million door back then right wow that's insane man it's been an honor
any more comments no man thanks for having me out i appreciate you guys for sure it's a solid
podcast and awesome do some follow-up yeah we'll sell some cars from this i think let's do it yeah
definitely should wayne anything make sure you guys holler at nick for your exotics he's the guy
yeah if you're in vegas stop by Vegas Auto Gallery, guys. See you next time. Peace.