Digital Social Hour - How AI Is Revolutionizing Music Creation | Bonnie X Clyde DSH #1174

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

🎵 How is AI revolutionizing music creation? | Bonnie X Clyde  join Sean Kelly on the Digital Social Hour to spill all the details! From using AI to remix their own voices to embracing cutting-edge... tools for songwriting, they share how technology is transforming the music industry. 🚀  But that's not all—get behind-the-scenes stories of their wild festival gigs, creative process, and even their journey from college dreamers to chart-topping artists. 🎤 Plus, they dive into meditation, mindfulness, and staying grounded while chasing the high-energy life of international music tours. 🌍✨  Packed with valuable insights and unforgettable stories, this episode is a must-watch for music lovers, creators, and anyone curious about the future of AI in music. Don't miss out—watch now and join the conversation! 🎧 Be sure to hit that subscribe button for more insider secrets and inspiring chats with incredible guests. 🔥   Tune in now and explore the future of music with | Bonnie X Clyde and Sean Kelly! 🎶 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:32 - Poker Frequency and Strategy 02:38 - Performing for 30,000 Fans 04:58 - Specialized Recruiting Group Shoutout 05:49 - Insomniac Events Overview 07:31 - Exploring Past Life Therapy 08:41 - Building Empathy in Music 09:27 - Origin of | Bonnie X Clyde  13:17 - Meaning Behind| Bonnie X Clyde  Name 14:20 - Music Evolution Over the Years 17:01 - Experience in Mosh Pits 18:50 - The Science of Frequencies 23:38 - Creative Process in Music 26:08 - AI in Music Production 28:46 - Upcoming Shows and Tours 31:41 - Polymarket Insights 33:30 - Taylor Swift Influence 34:08 - Where to Connect with| Bonnie X Clyde  APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: | Bonnie X Clyde  https://www.instagram.com/bonniexclyde/ https://bonniexclyde.com/ SPONSORS: Specialized Recruiting Group: https://www.srgpros.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/   #sunoai #edmtips #aitools #abletonlive #ai-poweredmusic

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Starting point is 00:01:53 I get pretty scared, I'm not gonna lie. Just put that, I mean, some of them are wild. There was one time I like jumped on top of a crowd at a festival and I never did it again. Oh, you crowd surfed? Yeah, well they didn't carry me up did it again. Oh, you crowd surf? Yeah. Well, they didn't, they didn't carry me up the whole way. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah. Damn. I didn't get too hurt, but it was like, okay, I won't be doing this again. All right guys, Bonnie, X Clyde, Paige and Danielle here today. Thanks for coming on guys. Thanks for having us. I'm excited to see you guys play.
Starting point is 00:02:23 You guys play often? We used to play a lot more. I would say in the last couple months, we haven't been playing as crazy, but we used to host a game. We lived in the same house with like a lot of producers and musicians, and we used to host a game in Los Angeles every Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I think it was when we were touring, starting like 2017 through 2019, we were traveling around the country in like St. Louis and Boston and playing these places where there'd be casinos and then we'd stay and play. And that led into when COVID happened, where we had a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:02:59 And we decided to actually get a poker table for a house and just play with the friends, but that led to us like Tuesdays and Thursdays for like 12 hours just buying it. Nothing crazy. You know, $200 buy-ins with a pound of weed on the table kind of thing. And just going around playing for hours and hours and that's how we really fell in love with the game. And there have even been periods recently in the last two years where I started
Starting point is 00:03:25 I do I went on like a PLO binge if you guys know about yellow That's the set the five hand card or whatever for cards. I prefer four card PLO rather than five card The math is kind of harder interesting. Why is it harder? One more card and also it's not even like when you're thinking about two cards. You're just kind of like doubling halfing Oh, okay, but there's that fifth card it kind of leads to. I can't even understand when I see clips of the five card. I don't understand what's going on. Yeah, just more variants.
Starting point is 00:03:52 We call it in the poker room we call it poker bingo because it's you could have the nuts on the turn and then all of a sudden on the river you're so far behind but you're already so committed with your stack or most likely all in at that point. Damn, yeah. I like the basic two card personally. What about you? Me too. Yeah, it's simple, it's nice and easy.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I'm definitely not a PLO girl. Yeah, PLO is a whole nother game. You like PLO more though, you said? Yeah, I just, I like dopamine and that really invokes that. You're a dopamine junkie. Yeah, definitely. Okay, that makes sense with your profession, right? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Just chase louder and bigger crowds every weekend. Yeah, you get fueled off that energy, right? Definitely. Okay, that makes sense with your profession, right? Yeah, absolutely. Just chase louder and bigger crowds every weekend. Yeah, you get fueled off that energy, right? Definitely. What's the biggest crowd you guys have done? Probably 30,000 people. It would be like EDC Vegas. We played a really sick crowd, EDC Mexico. Yeah, EDC Mexico.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I didn't know they had Mexico. Yeah, that was pretty electric. 30,000 people. EDC Vegas, I think was the biggest though Yeah, 2019 EDC Vegas, maybe EDC Orlando. Oh Yeah, you saw a Lando to use you electric zoo is pretty sick, too That was pretty up there probably 20,000. Holy crap And do you change your set based off the crowd size or is it the same kind of vibe every time we do?
Starting point is 00:05:01 Play music festival sets. I think differently than club sets. Okay. Not necessarily based on the crowd size, but more like the stage and how we're performing with the stage. Cause I sing on all of our sets. So, whether there's a full stage or just a booth kind of changes our setup.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I didn't know you sang during them. That's not common in EDM, right? I don't know. sang during them. That's not common in EDM, right? I don't know. Less common. It is less common. Maybe like under 5% or even less. But it also depends on the stage format. You know, we really like if there's a catwalk
Starting point is 00:05:35 or a front stage and things of that nature rather than just standing up on the DJ booth. And also some festivals are more electronic, rave oriented festivals versus when we played Lollapalooza like they want to hear you sing. They you know the. It was a bigger stage.
Starting point is 00:05:49 The crowds there and hearing more people singing so the live performance is more palatable. Yeah, I went to Lollapalooza once I thought I was gonna die. Why? Let's just say I bought something from some random guy came out of a sock and yeah almost died. Yeah always know your source guys. Why let's just say I bought something from some random guy came out of a sock and yeah, I'm gonna die Yeah, always know your source guys. Yeah, that was a sketchy a little I don't even know what to call that experience a bad trip Yeah, shout out to Lollapalooza though. Definitely a lot of people at that one. Yeah, that was a fun one. I've been to
Starting point is 00:06:20 Fireflies that what it's called. Yeah, Firefly's great. Firefly. Yeah, I haven't been to festivals in a while Are they still pretty poppin these days? Absolutely. Yeah? Yeah, Firefly is great. Firefly, yeah. I haven't been to festivals in a while. Are they still pretty popping these days? Absolutely. Oh yeah. I feel like they're getting more diversified on who they're booking and people are getting more creative on how they're formatting the festival, not just putting a stage,
Starting point is 00:06:36 but creating art installations or experience-based things within going from stage to stage that just, you know, increases the joy of the festival goer. I think new ones keep coming up too. Right, so it's more than just music now. Looking for the ultimate online casino experience? Step into the BetMGM Casino app, where every deal, spin and goal brings Las Vegas excitement
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Starting point is 00:09:45 They have so many different festivals based on like, either whether it's Halloween or, I mean, EDC Vegas is pretty Vegas oriented. Yeah, they make it less about the artists and more about the headliner. And they say the headliner is the attendees. Ultimately it's about that. Yeah, it's about that.
Starting point is 00:10:03 So they bring in all the people, right? I mean, the people are the headliners. People are the headliners. It's like about the experience they're gonna have. That's an interesting thought process. Yeah, so it's centric around them. Okay, and do you like that vibe more? I like, I just like variation in my experience in general.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I don't think, I think just doing that would be boring and just doing where everybody's really there for the songwriting or the singing element, just diversification, more variance. Yeah, that makes sense. I think I get just as much joy when we perform a festival to a lot of people where we're experiencing the whole festival
Starting point is 00:10:37 and playing to larger crowds. It's the same as like playing to a smaller room where everyone in the room is singing along to all your music and it's like a sweatier environment and yeah like 500 people in a club where people are closer like yeah I can have just as much fun playing that as you know the 30,000 crowd sometimes more fun yeah because you really get to sometimes you're far away stage and see their reaction to your songs more we're waiting on one of those big stages and there's 30,000, you're not really connecting with,
Starting point is 00:11:07 and like when you're looking at people, you can't really like see their soul in their eyes, and when you're at a club and they're right there, you can see how much fun they're really having. And your soul, you guys are a little spiritual. I love it. I love spirituality actually. They're not psychedelics, big on like,
Starting point is 00:11:21 I've done past life therapy, I've done all that stuff. I've done Reiki healing. That is so cool. Yeah, it's dope. I like that. Do you guys do any of that stuff too? Yeah. I believe I lived a past life.
Starting point is 00:11:32 I live my life through the lens of hermetics. Hermetics. Hermetics and the main principle of hermetics is mentalism, basically the external universe is a reflection of the internal self. So I focus a lot on maintaining good framing no matter what energy I'm interacting with on this field. I love that.
Starting point is 00:11:50 So you're big on energies. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I feel that with certain people I meet. It's like the first thing I notice now. Like how do I feel? Yeah, and if they don't make you feel good or they make you feel heavy or misalign you with yourself, then you probably shouldn't interact with that energy.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Absolutely. Yeah, before they even talk, you can feel it. You really pay attention. Well, if you have that sensitivity and the more you pick up and focus on perceiving these forces, the more you'll be able to navigate the world towards weightlessness. Absolutely. Man, we're getting deep here. I love it.
Starting point is 00:12:22 But no, having 1200 episodes, I've gotten like kind of good at it, I guess. Just like picking up on energies and stuff. I used to suck. Like I used to get scammed. I used to get like mistaken. But I've gotten better. Yeah, it helps with one of the most important emotions, which is definitely empathy.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Yeah, I've had to develop that to be honest. Something I lacked growing up. Feel that. You know, I don't know if it's like, I have autism and stuff, but I don't know what it was, trauma, but I've had to definitely work on like empathy and emotion stuff. Well yeah, it's about working inward first and seeing yourself and once you can really see yourself take accountability for self then you
Starting point is 00:12:55 can really see it in others. I think a lot of people don't realize you can always work on it. Yeah you can. A lot of people think they're stuck. I mean look at Elon Musk like he has definitely worked on it. You see his past interviews and you see him now. It's like a totally different person. Yeah. It's impressive. Now I know you guys met in high school, so how long have you been at this thing I guess? Was it from high school? So actually in high school we were in the same friend group and in high school I had always wanted to be a singer and was writing music in the form that I was in high school while he was a DJ.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And we didn't actually come together until our second to last year in college when we were at two different colleges. We were on Skype every single night. It all Skyped. I caught the tail end of Skype. There's Skype and Uvoo and stuff. Yeah, we actually, it wasn't Skype,
Starting point is 00:13:46 but there was another program we used where we could control each other's mouses from, I was in Virginia. Team viewer? Something along those lines. Or maybe we'd use Skype and then I would share my screen and she would use the other thing to do her mouse on the Ableton session, kind of just developing whatever,
Starting point is 00:14:03 that was like the seat of everything. It wasn't like we had Bonnie and Clyde at that point. We had a brand that was in our mind, it was called Vibrato, which is like the movement of a pitch really fast. Yeah, that's what it was. Because I was a singer and I really liked it. We just thought that was cool,
Starting point is 00:14:16 but I didn't really, once the end of college came around, but we were making music under it and I was, we were showing our friends and stuff for the project that I was working on and I just saw a lot more people like oh this is cool better reaction and once the end of college came around we were like what are we gonna do what are we gonna call it what can we really put our you know put our flag in put our heart into. We both really believed in the music that we were making and like us as a unit but but it wasn't until the end of college
Starting point is 00:14:45 that we named ourselves. And I think it was on my graduation day, I showed my dad our business plan. And I was like, I'm moving. And I moved to Miami and we started our project in Miami. Yeah, we were living $500 a month in the hood of Miami. I'm saying. Sounds fun. Yeah, I mean, it's South Side.
Starting point is 00:15:01 It was a grind. I went to University of Miami. So like, it was like basically where the Bro broke college kids lived on the other side south side of the campus and I'll never forget we lived with He was a pot dealer and then three doors down was a crack house I swear we woke up one morning and it was like a music video with the step team and the Like the ATVs and the barbecue truck and the whole thing and even
Starting point is 00:15:24 Like within that period, like guys came up on our back porch with guns and robbed all our friends and all that kind of stuff. It was really wild experience. It was wild there. And we had one gig once a week, $500 a week up in Fort Lauderdale or Palm Beach, it was called Lux. And so, you know, making 2K a month between the two of us, just grinding it out
Starting point is 00:15:46 until we made this one song called Rise Above. And we cold DM'd it to a kid who owned Trap Nation. And he responded and said, yo, we're gonna upload this. He uploaded it. It got like a million streams or a million hits in the first couple of weeks. And that led to like our first manager
Starting point is 00:16:04 and the first wave of momentum. And then we went on our first tour all around Florida. And from there it was kind of, things just kept going up and we just kept continuing to make music. Got a deal with Insomniac and Interscope, had a record label together at the time. And we had this song called Bass Jam that was maybe three or four months later
Starting point is 00:16:24 and it ended up going number one on US dance radio And that just then all of a sudden it was just off to the races from there Wow Yeah, cuz once you get a number one song it's over right like you just say it's over But it gives you a nice nice year year and a half to and make another it brings a lot of people to your shows Yeah, know your music and want to keep hearing more. So wow. So you guys worked at a distance at first. Yeah. That's crazy. First year we were making music across Skype, but we never released any of that music.
Starting point is 00:16:50 That was just the. Like figuring out how we work together, what the vision was for the music and. You know, just keep it, keeping the connection. That's impressive. And what a name to Bonnie Klein. That's after the old fairy tale, right? It was the bank robbers. Or it was a real story, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:08 In the 40s, they are 40s. At the time when we first started making music, too, we made a lot more bass heavy music and them being bank robbers and had this like edge to them, it made sense for us. And then the name just started kind of taking off because there aren't many Guy girl duos in the scene especially ones that also have like a singer that goes out and performs. Yeah, I can't think of any I would say The other one that's like pretty big is like Sophie Tucker. Okay Yeah, they do the same kind of thing where they have a singer and, but they're really aren't. A little different flavor with the sound.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Different flavor, yeah. That makes sense. But there aren't a lot. And that's definitely been a huge thing going for us over the years is just, there really aren't a lot of acts. A lot of DJs will bring out other singers to perform the songs they have with them, but they're not a singer.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah. Like consistently performing as a singer. Yeah, that makes sense. Have you had to adapt the music, the style of the music over the years? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, so we started off doing bass. And that was hot at the time.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Future bass, yeah. Trap music, a lot of banging our head around. And then we just realized I love songwriting and I really love writing pop music and our direction just went more house and now we're definitely in the house lane and we love writing house music and more floor to the floor stuff that's going to make people dance and sing along. It's also more palatable for the international market and as we kind of saw more and came to more awareness around what the implications of the sound that we were in, where it would kind of limit us in a way
Starting point is 00:18:53 where we wanna have a more expanded touring circuit. And we also, there's this general trend on when you're younger, like 18 to 21, 24, that the faster tempo music resonates with those people more. That's not for everybody I'm saying generally speaking. The faster tempo resonates with younger people because they have more energy to move and go crazy for longer durations of time.
Starting point is 00:19:14 But even as we got older, our preference on tempo slowed down, slowed down to more in the 120s just kind of dancing and these kind of things because you can do that for longer durations of times. And you even see right now there's a genre called Afro House, which is like a very piano based, kind of like tribal percussion oriented thing, but it's very palatable. So you can party on it for 12 hours.
Starting point is 00:19:37 So if you're, cause it's just enough energy that it keeps you moving, but not enough energy that it overstimulates you. Right. Yeah. So kind of finding that, the balance between that and where we were for where, you know, just feels right for us
Starting point is 00:19:53 wherever we are in our energy right now. Also, we were just organically making more songs that had fully written material or in the past, I mean, we played a lot of rooms that people show up just to bang their head to the bass. And I'm telling you, I've sung in front of their faces and they're looking at me like, please stop singing. It'd be like a rock show where people just wanna mosh.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Why? Like the comparable audience to bass music and rock and wanting to mosh, they just wanna bang their head. The mosh pits you're talking about. Or they'd be like the snobs at the front rail just like looking at me singing like, please stop singing. Waiting for you to play a faster song.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Waiting for the bass. So kind of seeing the fans transfer and also grow with us. Yeah, we wanna bring in the people. But I also feel like the market in general, people are becoming more palatable to loving more genres of music and not being such a, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:44 snob on what the genre is. So that's been cool as well. Have you guys ever been in the mosh pit? Oh yeah. Yeah. You like getting in there? I mean, during our shows we definitely created them. We used to. I get pretty scared, I'm not gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Just put that, I mean. Some of them are wild. There was one time I like jumped on top of a crowd at a festival and I never did it again. Oh, you crowd surfed? Yeah. They didn't carry me up the whole way. Oh, damn. Yeah, I didn't get too hurt, but it was like,
Starting point is 00:21:10 okay, I won't be doing this again. The whole mosh pit at a dance music oriented thing is there's this underlying culture around plur, just peace, love, unity, respect. So if someone gets down or falls within the pits at these festivals, they're getting picked up and people are very, it's more of a loving environment and not like, let me thrash and like I've seen the rock and punk shows where people are literally punching each other in
Starting point is 00:21:33 the face and swinging their arms. Especially rap shows too. I've seen that. That's the ones I'm talking about. Rap shows are a lot different. Yeah I haven't been to an EDM like event, but I've been to the rap ones and the mosh pits are actually sketchy. Yeah there's, I haven't seen a single fightM like event, but I've been to the rap ones and the mosh pits are actually sketchy. Yeah, I haven't seen a single fight
Starting point is 00:21:48 on one of our shows before. Wow, that's actually insane. No, base stages even at like EDM festivals, although they go hard in mosh pits, they are very kind compared to like a mosh pit at a rap show. Like I wouldn't go near that. Well, it's the energy of the artist, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:03 it's what they're putting out into the world and if you're putting out from a place of love and light then you're gonna get that back with the people that are gravitating towards you versus maybe some of the hip-hop artists are talking about certain themes that gravitate people that are on some darker energy that leads to that kind of tension and also the uh what they're consuming there's people consuming different chemicals compared to alcohol at dance shows, which leads to less aggression as well. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Is that the psychedelics you're talking about? Yeah, alcohol tends to make people a little angrier. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's facts though. The type of music, the frequencies you're putting out. Do you guys look into the frequencies at all? We do. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I like that. Big on 432. That's my favorite one, bro. That's the best one, right? Whenever I'm feeling a little sick or down I pop up a frequency like a healing one or a love one and it actually changes me. Those are the self-eggios you're talking about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 So are you into meditation? Yeah. That's great. You guys meditate? Yeah. That's cool. What form I guess? Because mine's different but...
Starting point is 00:22:59 I feel like right now I'm meditating like centering my energy using a mudra, keeping my energy inward and just staying calm and being true. I'm meditating, centering my energy using a mudra, keeping my energy in word and just staying calm and being true. I'm similar, yeah. I don't do the set one where you're like eyes closed and stuff. Yeah, I don't prefer that. In the shower I feel like I am a lot, or when I'm running or working out. Yeah, even driving.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Driving, I zone out. I'm like, damn, I've been driving for 20 minutes. Driving is a meditation in itself. I actually, I mean mean my meditation practices have changed here and there, but I tend to meditate a lot, especially like when I'm home in the morning of like a practice that I do. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah, breath work's been huge for me too. Breath work's great. So sick. I had some actual like chest pain the other day and I thought it was like something I ate, but it was anxiety. And then I did a Wim Hof breath work, went away completely.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Wow. Just from breath work. That's amazing. It's insane, right? Yeah, I mean, actually like I can, I'm ascending into the universe in the speed of light when I'm doing that. Yeah, I mean, it's game changer
Starting point is 00:23:56 because people try to put you on pills and stuff to fix your mental health. Yeah. It's like, you could just do breath work and grounding. I agree with that. Yeah, and I think giving yourself breaks of substances is really good. Like right now I'm doing a wave of sobriety just to find that next layer of self.
Starting point is 00:24:11 And then, but I'm like zero or a hundred so like I can party, but I always maintain control too and never lose sight of momentum. It's like all those forces bouncing at once. But if anybody's struggling with the anxiety and these type of things, I think cutting off everything is the best thing for at least a month. And you'll see, like, and then start to understand the source
Starting point is 00:24:31 of where those emotions are coming from and then going into the reframing of them. Simplify your lifestyle, right? We were talking right before we filmed about your guy's schedule. So have you experienced like burnout or just feeling stress and anxiety living on the road so much?
Starting point is 00:24:44 I was just having this conversation with a friend the other day. I do think, I don't have an addictive personality, but I do find that I'm a bit addicted to being busy because my schedule is just, I'm so busy all the time that it's hard for me to relax. That's why I do meditate and like force myself into these scenarios that calm myself.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Like recently I came off like a long busy weekend and I immediately started jumping into another activity of like being busy. And I think that we do have to be a little more intentional on relaxing and finding calm because we're just always go, go, go. I think our generation right now is just like that's all because even social media, it's like you're constantly on something or you constantly feel like you need to be doing
Starting point is 00:25:37 something. Yeah, I just think our schedule causes us to be really busy. So. Whenever I have those thoughts of, am I, oh, this is too much or those type of things, I always just come back to gratitude and be like, but like, I get to do this. This is what we get to do. Like, why would I complain about anything? Right.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And then it just helps me bring myself back to chilling. I could relate to both of that. Yeah, I have a gratitude journal every morning. That's great. Non-negotiable, 10 things. Yeah, it helps a lot. And then, yeah, if I just sit around, I feel like uncomfortable at home.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Like I need to be doing something. We need momentum, bro. That's what we're all chasing. We actually don't care about the end goal as much as we do of just having some sort of momentum in some way. Right, because I feel like I'm going backward if not doing anything.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Yeah. But I do feel like I'm going backward not doing anything. But I do feel like I experienced burnout, but I wouldn't even know that it's burnout because I just like fight through it and continue working. I did that for years and then it led to panic attacks. Oh wow. Because it'll come up if you just put it to the side. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:39 So I had to like face it head on. That was tough. Yeah, I think my meditation and my morning routine helps me for sure. Absolutely, I wasn't doing any of that in college. I was just partying, sleeping four hours a day, and then the stress added up, and then it just collapsed on the floor.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah, definitely no scrolling in the morning. Don't interact with the phone in that way, because that leads to you conditioning your day around the micro dopamine hits associated with doing that, rather than doing all the things that you're talking about, or just stretch or drink some water. Also, it doesn't really give your brain like the chance to do what it would wanna do
Starting point is 00:27:11 and you're kind of automatically influenced by whatever you're watching. Yeah, that's a bad habit for sure. I try to get into a creation cycle in the morning where it like trains my brain to crave more creating. Yeah, I'd love to talk to you guys about your creative process because there's so many distractions these days. It must be really hard to lock down and focus, right?
Starting point is 00:27:31 We are very different creators. Oh, you're different? I think that it's a benefit to our project that we're very different. But yeah, we're just we're different. I think I'm like way more the type of creator where I like to, I mean, on the go, I'm constantly voice memo-ing. I get influenced by whatever I'm experiencing in life, and I'll create in my voice memos and bring it to Ableton.
Starting point is 00:27:55 But I find I create the best when I'm just alone and not influenced by anything. And I think that he's a little bit more strategic with creation, but you speak for yourself. anything and I think that he's a little bit more strategic with creation but you see for yourself. Yeah, I mean, when I'm making something, I like to understand why and who's it for and what is the emotion that I'm trying to evoke
Starting point is 00:28:16 out of the person that's gonna be consuming for what purpose, what's the offer and it could be as simple as to make them smile. It doesn't have to be so deep, but as long as I'm understanding, kind of like, oh, we gotta get to Mars. That's the mission. And then kind of setting the frame along with the mission.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And I feel like that's honestly what's really helped with our dynamic because she's over here throwing all these ideas at the wall and then I'm able to kind of like funnel them into something that serves the market. So you're like the visionary and he kind of is more tactical. I am always, I just have like all these ideas that I want and it bugs me sometimes, although I do,
Starting point is 00:28:55 now that I've been doing this for so long, I do reference tracks and get inspired from like what other people are doing, but I just love the uniqueness that comes from like your own mind and like, I have so many ideas all the time that I just want to expand on what I already have going on because I'm such a creative.
Starting point is 00:29:12 But I respect and enjoy how much he really thinks about what's going on in the scene and taking my ideas in a way and really putting them in a place. But every song is different too. And it's every moment and how we're feeling and where we are with each other or when our own individual journeys. And some songs is as simple as, hey, let's go sit down and start making a song and then we'll just start.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And then whatever that first, whether it's a chord progression, a drum loop, vocal idea will be like the seed of inspiration, right? And then it just starts growing. Here's a new branch, here's a new branch, here's a new branch, and we just start building that tree of creation. I love that. Have you guys used AI to make any songs yet?
Starting point is 00:29:54 Yeah. Yeah, definitely in the context of, what song do we use AI that came out? What hasn't come out. Yeah, I don't think we put out music, but we've made like intros, and like we had Morgan Freeman do our intro Oh, that's cool. They I yeah, and that's allowed. Yeah, cuz we're not we're not distributing it for
Starting point is 00:30:11 Anything other than our shows. Oh, wow. That's cool. We also have been taking my voice and like a way for us to hear an Idea with my voice without me having to record the whole thing. It's just using AI. Oh, yeah We've trained a model so if people send us demos an idea with my voice without me having to record the whole thing, it's just using AI. My voice. It's a lot. So if people send us demos, I can go and separate, because now you can separate stems with AI. So take whatever demo gets sent, separate the stems,
Starting point is 00:30:34 take the vocal stem, put it into our. So I hear myself singing it. Our boy actually created it. Really? And it sounds like you? Yeah, hooky.io. Oh, it sounds just like me, it's really crazy. It makes me feel like, sometimes I'm like,
Starting point is 00:30:43 okay, well, there are parts that it's not hitting perfectly, which feels good, but at the same time I'm like, oh no, if I lose my voice, I'll be good. But it's also scary. That is crazy, so they could bring dead people back. Oh yeah. Well, they need a model, so in theory they could pull the stems out of some, you know, to see Stardust tracks
Starting point is 00:31:04 and remake a model and do it. Yeah, definitely Yeah, I remember when the Drake songs the fake ones got leaked and they were like viral He got pissed and took him down or whatever it did you see if he took him down or not or he requested to his label Yeah, but I don't think there's grounds unless you can prove that the source of the AI model was him in which case you could Hmm, but if you pulled it from videos where that's public domain versus the actual tracks and then you get into a whole legal argument that's not fully flushed out yet. So that's like a whole landscape that's currently developing.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Well, it's cool to see you guys embrace it. Cause I know there's both ends of it. Some artists are not like feeling it. So yeah, like right now anybody could go onto this website called hooky that our boy created and use her voice to create a song and then they send it to us to approve it or not approve it and there's like a licensing model really associated with that. Oh I think it's cool like anyone can go and use my voice and yes we have to approve it but it just creates more
Starting point is 00:32:02 of an opportunity to have like a phenomenal song with my voice on it. Yeah. Somebody's sending us and more chances to go viral. Exactly. I've got any of them got some traction yet? No, there haven't been any songs that have come out under this model. It's a new super new tool that we're not necessarily pushing super hard because we're waiting for the the algorithm or the was it the model to get a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Makes sense, yeah. It probably gets better over time with the more reps. Oh yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's only getting better. That's cool, I love that. Well, where are you guys performing next? F1 this weekend. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah. Oh, nice. The paddock on Friday. Let's go, that's gonna be blast. Have you guys done F1 yet? We went to F1 in Miami just to go. That was super, that was super fun. Yeah. We did like the whole police escort going in. It's actually a really cool story. Our last F1 we met Tiesto. Well, yeah, that's actually crazy. We had been chatting with him a bit through DMs,
Starting point is 00:33:01 but it was our first time meeting him right before he performed. Together, together. Nice. And after we had met him, he was mentioning how he liked one of our songs. And long story short, a week later, or that Monday, he had his team reach out to us for us to open for him at the Brooklyn Mirage in New York that next week. Whoa. And so we went from just meeting him at F1 to then opening for him at the Brooklyn Mirage in New York that next week. Whoa. And so we went from just meeting him at F1 to then opening for him at the Brooklyn Mirage the next week, it was an epic experience for us.
Starting point is 00:33:30 That's insane, opening for Tieso, that's like one of the goats, right? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, it was amazing. And it just, it definitely formed this relationship where now we really are excited to like put out a song with him. Yeah, we're gonna put something together.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Beautiful. Have you done anything with Aoki yet? He's out here. No, we haven't done anything with Aoki yet? He's out here. No, we haven't done anything with Aoki. No? Yeah, I know he's everywhere. We played some shows with him though. Yeah, we did a show with him in Texas.
Starting point is 00:33:52 In Texas? Yeah. He's in a new state every day. Midland. Midland. He's all over. And then on Saturday we play in Mississippi. We play a fraternity party in Ole Miss.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Fraternity parties? You're still doing like home parties? Hell yeah. Oh, dope. Oh yeah, I mean if they they come correct Yeah, the big South schools they got it. Oh yeah. Yeah, they got the donors Fun shows because the college kids are like that in that area of life They're like starting the trends and like that's true. Once you turn them on to your music. It's good
Starting point is 00:34:23 They got a lot of influence, right? Yeah, and there's gonna be a period eventually where we're gonna be priced out of that whole scene. And it's fun for us to go back year after year and hear the minds of the 21, 19, whatever age they are and how they think about the world, what they care about, the music they're listening to. And I try to ask as many questions these kids as possible.
Starting point is 00:34:45 That's cool. So that I can stay in touch. We get to hang out with them before the show. Yeah, keeps you in touch with the culture, right? Definitely. When I had Mike Posner on the show, he talked about how his start was in college campuses. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:56 That's how he started his career. Yeah, I feel like a lot of people are like that. That's interesting. Yeah, because I guess when you're starting out, that's like a perfect audience to kind of test it, right? Absolutely, and I feel like uh the Bonnie and Clyde dynamic the girl guy thing the whole formal You know how frats and the girls and they're all trying to interact it creates a cool dynamic where they keep they keep bringing us back Right, and they're just so open to
Starting point is 00:35:25 New music I find when we play new music. They, they just get hype over anything. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun. Have you guys bet on Polymarket before? So I did, the time where I actually used Polymarket, but I didn't put money into Polymarket because I don't hold crypto, is I bet with my bookies on the election. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And I used it as the indicator on what to bet. And I hit everything. And also while we were watching the news, I had another screen over here on Polymarket and it indicated way before the news cycle came out. I saw that. Yeah, we knew it was over way before it was over. You saw they arrested the CEO, right?
Starting point is 00:36:01 Probably because they're taking money out of America. I don't know what happened, but I think the FBI raided his house or whatever whoa because he knew the election results before they came out right yeah so they were like how do you know that I was wondering that's actually on the market it moves based on the demand of the crowd so you just feel it's in it it's a yeah you knew like four hours before right well we it was 95% but that's because people are selling and buying right? It's not knowing what it is. Yeah, but like that's why I know you gotta rest it Yeah, this was like a week ago. Yeah actually heard about that. Yeah, I mean, that's a tough game
Starting point is 00:36:34 That's a tough business to try to create shout out to that guy. It's a cool business Yeah, got some powerful enemies in the sports gambling world for sure a lot of money in that yeah But there's one bet on there right now who will be billboard number one pop star of the century? Is there a list are you? Taylor Swift Beyonce or other oh God, I mean, it's Swift Yeah, yeah, she's at 87% right now. Yeah, I mean she yeah, she tends to take all the W's there Yeah, she's number one right now everywhere, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Even in the NFL. Even like on our set, like I'll play a Taylor Swift song. Yeah? Yeah, hell yeah, I love seeing them sing. And do the guys react to it or just the girls? I mean, ultimately if the girls are happy, the guys are happy. What's wild is I'm a Taylor Swift fan,
Starting point is 00:37:16 but I'm way more of a fan of her first, like when she was country. I hear that a lot. Yeah, I'm not, not that I don't respect her as a songwriter moving forward into the other genres I just think she was so good at what she was initially writing But I almost just want her to go back there because when I hear a lot of her pop music I'm like, yeah, it's tough because you got to adapt to the numbers and pops probably number one or now I'd assume right?
Starting point is 00:37:40 What's popular so so yeah, you saw Drake go from like hip-hop to kind of pop and yeah people were like I missed the old Drake But he still like has done it all I think Not a lot of people make it that long. So the longevity is what is impressive, you know, yeah, absolutely Same with your space. I'm sure people don't last long, right? Yeah I've been really lucky to last a decade a decades a long time in this space Yeah, and we're gonna go two more three more. Let's go. Yeah. I love it. Well, uh you're performing at F1. Where else can people find you guys? Spotify, Apple Music, Instagram but the most
Starting point is 00:38:13 important thing is the music. So, wherever you listen to music, go listen to that. Bonnie Clyde. Spotify is a great place. Okay. We'll link it below. Thanks for coming on guys. That was fun. Thank you so much. Thanks for watching guys. Check them out. Sportsbook born in Vegas. That's a feeling you can only get with Bet MGM. And no matter your team, your favorite skater, or your style, there's something every NHL fan is going to love about Bet MGM. Download the app today and discover why Bet MGM is your hockey home for the season. Raise your game to the next level this year with Bet MGM, a sportsbook worth a celly,
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