Digital Social Hour - How Barry’s Became the Hottest Steakhouse in Vegas | Chef Barry and Yassine Lyoubi DSH
Episode Date: March 15, 2025🔥 Chef Barry & Yassine on Building Vegas’ Hottest Steakhouse, Social Media & Restaurant Trends 🍽️🚀 In this delicious deep dive, we sit down with Chef Barry & Yassine, the masterminds behi...nd Barry’s Downtown Prime, one of Las Vegas' most iconic steakhouses located at Circa Resort & Casino. They share insider secrets on: ✅ How Barry’s became one of the top steakhouses in Vegas ✅ The power of social media & food influencers in the restaurant business ✅ The secret to creating an “Instagrammable” restaurant experience ✅ The rise of high-end dining & the future of steakhouses ✅ How they built a space catering to celebrities, athletes, and food lovers This mouthwatering episode is a must-listen for foodies, entrepreneurs, and anyone interested in the behind-the-scenes of the restaurant industry! 📲 Follow Chef Barry, Yassine & Barry’s Downtown Prime: 🔗 Instagram: @BarrysPrime 🔗 Chef Barry’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chefbarryb/ 🔗 Website: BarrysPrime.com 🔗 Yassine's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yassine.lyoubi/ ⏱ CHAPTERS: 📌 00:00 – How Social Media Shapes the Restaurant Industry 📌 02:15 – The Importance of Instagrammable Dishes & Restaurant Design 📌 04:30 – How Barry’s Became One of Vegas’ Hottest Steakhouses 📌 07:10 – The Evolution of Vegas Dining & The Growth of the City 📌 09:45 – Real Estate Prices Then vs. Now & Investing in Vegas 📌 12:30 – The Unique Location & Design of Barry’s at Circa 📌 15:00 – What Makes Barry’s Stand Out From Other Steakhouses 📌 17:45 – The Competitive Steakhouse Market in Vegas 📌 20:10 – The Palms Casino’s Influence on Vegas Dining & Nightlife 📌 22:30 – The Secret to Longevity in the Restaurant Business 📌 25:00 – How Social Media & Influencers Changed the Restaurant Game 📌 27:15 – Food Influencers, Viral Marketing & The Keith Lee Effect 📌 30:00 – How Restaurants Adapt to Trends & Customer Expectations 📌 32:45 – The Future of Fine Dining, Vegan Options & Dietary Trends 📌 35:00 – What’s Next for Barry’s & New Ventures LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ 🔥 Apply to Be on the Podcast & Business Inquiries: 🎙 APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application 📩 BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com
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We want people to be on their phones because the more they're on their phones, the more
covered we're getting as a restaurant. So when you're designing a menu nowadays or you're designing
a restaurant, one of the first questions is what's Instagrammable? What dish is going to be
Instagrammable? Of course you want it to be good, you want the flavor to be there, presentation to
be there, consistency, but you want it to be an Instagrammable dish and you want your restaurant
to have multiple Instagrammable locations. I mean if you go to Barry's and you look at the women's
restroom for example, load it up. Yeah, I mean, if you go to Barry's and you look at the women's restroom, for example,
load it up, yeah, I mean, that's right.
Number one most Instagram, we have the most selfies
out of any other restaurant in the bathroom.
We can almost do an Instagram page for Barry's
of just bathroom selfies.
Everyone that goes in there loves it.
All right guys, got Chef Barry and Yacine here today
from their famous steakhouse.
Thanks for coming in, guys.
Of course. Thank you for having us.
I always tell people your guys' steakhouse
is one of my favorites in town, if not my favorite, so.
Thank you.
Yeah. High regards from me.
Which, appreciate it.
And you guys are new, right?
Because Circa's pretty new.
Well, new in the sense of going to Circa, yeah.
Yeah, but you've been around for a minute.
We've been around for a minute.
How long?
I've been in Vegas now, what, women who come, but you've been around for a minute. We've been around for a minute. How long?
I've been in Vegas now, what, when we did come here, 98?
I moved here in 97, so 27 years.
That's when I was born.
Yeah, holy crap.
You guys have seen a lot of development.
A lot of development.
Did you see Vegas kind of blowing up like the way it has?
Well, man, I never thought it would get to this,
but yeah, I mean, it's a pretty this, but, uh, yeah, I mean,
it's pretty special time right now.
Yeah.
Cause I feel like 97, you could have got a steel on some real estate out here.
Oh, absolutely. Oh yeah.
In hindsight, it's 2020.
I wish I could go back.
I remember, I remember even, even after that, when it got really crazy and
what was that?
Oh, four or five and people were lining up outside of like all the, the home
builders for, for two, three days in a row to try to buy homes.
That was right before the crash.
Damn.
But that's when we saw the biggest price hike in real estate.
Yeah, everybody thought they were real estate.
I mean, yeah.
Everybody was buying houses.
Everybody.
It's prior, right?
And then all of a sudden, everything starts hitting the twos
and people are like, oh shoot, you gotta go buy.
People are waiting outside of KB Homes
and all the builders.
I bought my first house for $89,000.
Holy crap.
Back in 98, yeah.
How many square feet is it?
Maybe 1,600, 1,500.
That's still crazy.
Yeah, it's, yeah.
That's nuts.
Now you can't find shit for that price.
No.
Not even a condo, nothing.
Yeah.
Even like houses that are like three, 400K
are like kind of regular out here, you know?
Yeah. I mean, it depends on your expectations, I guess,
but times have changed for sure. Oh, man. What do you feel the better?
Yeah. For the better. Well, for you guys, yeah,
because you want as many people here as possible. Right. Loaded up.
Yeah. Loaded. Some days I come to your spots, fully packed. It's impressive.
You guys got a big location to great location, right? We didn't.
I mean, it's what we got.
Seventeen thousand square feet between the kitchen. I
think a little bit, a little more. That's gotta be one of the
biggest state houses in town. Right.
Yeah. We got lucky with the, with the build out on that
because we're the only, uh, only location in the basement at
Circa. So everything at Circa is floor one ground level, which
is Fremont street level. Yeah. Two and three. Uh, and we've
pretty much got the whole basement to ourselves.
Right?
Yeah.
There's a bunch of back of house stuff going on, right?
Offices, storage, et cetera.
But so we kind of had a carte blanche in terms of how we wanted to get that
kitchen design, how big we wanted to make the dining room.
I mean, we went full shebang.
This again, we opened pre COVID and the design process was, was about a year
and a half prior to COVID or a year before COVID.
So we designed the entire restaurant based off of wanting to do a lot of group dining.
So we have, I mean, you've seen the restaurant.
You guys usually sit in the front like where the DJ is,
but if you walk all the way through the back, we've got 350 seats, flexible room.
Yeah. I sat there last time actually in the back. I didn't even know that was there.
Yeah. So that restaurant that we designed is everything that we always wanted and we
didn't have in other restaurants, which really caters to larger parties and make it more
private, you know?
So it's worth how great.
No, I feel spacious, man, because other steak houses, we don't have to name anyone, but
you feel cramped.
You know?
You get in there, it's loud as hell, and you can't even hear the person across the table
from you.
We're pretty loud on I'm from weekends.
Yeah.
I mean, I mean the design allows us to be a little more spread out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Restaurant businesses is cutthroat as it is an empty seat costs a lot of money.
So everyone tries to pack them in overbook reservation slots.
Stuff.
We're very fortunate with the amount of space we have to not have to, uh, to
cram them in that much, right?
Except for Valentine's day.
That's my birthday.
It will be Deuce Alley. Did you say it's your birthday? Yeah. Oh yeah. It's my father's, fast for Valentine's Day. That's my birthday. It will be Deuce Alley's.
Did you say it's your birthday?
Yeah.
Oh yeah, it's my father's, it's Fasnevi's birthday too.
No way.
Yeah.
Wow, I've never met another person born on Valentine's.
I haven't either, pretty cool.
Yeah, it's a rare thing, man.
Yeah, you guys would be packed that day,
but I was trying to do a little staycation,
damn, it was like 600 a night.
At where?
At Venetian.
It's usually like two, 300, but Valentine's Day people are guests too. Why go to the Venetian. It's usually like two, 300.
But Valentine's Day people are guests too.
Why go to the Venetian when you can come to Circa?
I've actually never stayed in Circa.
I wanna try it one of these days.
It was a crazy room.
Yeah, they're really comfortable.
Okay, yeah, definitely.
I wanna have some of my networking events.
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Yeah.
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What was to come with the real world with
the, you know, the first filming of the real world at the Palms when we opened.
I mean, that was the, that was the hurricane, right?
That just put us on the map.
And then with the nightclubs and Ghost Bar and Club Rain and they had the Buddha Bar
and Carduno's and Johnny Brennan with his theaters that the Palms was the studio 54
Vegas.
Yeah. Out of its time. I mean, you had everybody coming in, them studio 54 Vegas ahead of its time.
I mean, you had everybody coming in,
them owning the Sacramento Kings at the time.
I mean, it was just a hotspot, a celebrity haven
for athletes, actors, musicians, everything.
Then the recording studio goes in, man, it was just perfect.
It was, and I don't think that could ever be repeated.
I mean, you know, what, every hundred years
something great comes along, right?
Vegas, that was just the perfect storm for me.
I mean, you know, it was amazing.
I'm very blessed to be a part of it.
I always see the suite there with the basketball,
the half court.
Yeah.
Yeah, that looks so fun.
Chris Brown plays there.
That was pretty, that was a lot of fun.
Yeah, they paved the way.
I mean, they were thinking outside of the box
and no one else during that time,
which was what, late 90s, early 2000s, no one was really taking that risk, right?
Vegas was a little more traditional.
They were catering to the Vegas went through that phase where they were trying to cater
to families, right?
Everyone had a theme park and a water park.
That was way early 90s.
I like the circus, circus.
And then that left and then the Maloof family paved the way with the nightlife and restaurant
portion. And then what happened is everyone else picked up. left and then the Maloof family paved the way with the nightlife and restaurant portion
and then what happened is everyone else picked up and the thing is you have an advantage.
If you're Steve Wynn, you are on the strip. If you're the Cosmo, you're on the strip,
you're in the hub. So now you have the formula that someone else tried and worked out for
them ready. You apply it, you spend more for bigger name DJs and it's done. I wouldn't
say the downfall of the palms, but I would say that was what took the trophy
away and give first place to a lot of other spots.
Yeah. Now it seems like the win is the spot, right? From what I hear.
Yeah. When you talk about the perfect combo of nightlife and high-end and big spending
customers, there's no way you can discount the fact that the win is probably the mammoth
on the strip, right?
Yeah, I mean, I was there for dinner the other night and we walked by XS.
And I'm like, I'm saying to my friend, Tony, I says, can you believe this?
Did we do this 20 years ago?
He said, yeah, but they just, they dress a lot worse these days.
Like you should see the way these girls are dressed and the way these guys are dressed.
It's just like, man, where did the time go, you know?
In fact, the way naked these days when they show up there.
Naked, clothes ain't matching.
It's just a disaster.
But listen, I heard you can't even,
what is the table there?
15,000 on a Friday or Saturday night?
Yeah.
At least 10 to 15.
10 to 15?
Yeah, so depending on who's performing,
could be even more.
Like New Year's is like 25.
And the place was rocking.
And it was, what's today? Today's Friday. We went Thursday night.
We went Wednesday night for dinner.
And it was rocking on a Wednesday night? Wow.
I didn't want to go. I didn't go in.
I'm not a big club guy, man. People always like, because I say I live in Vegas, they
assume like I go out and stuff. I don't even drink, you know?
Man, you want to talk about clubs. Then the days of the palms, Club Rain was where Nine Steakhouse was
in a little set back towards the pool.
I remember the line would be to the end of Brennan Theaters.
Totally.
That's like 300, 400 yards.
People waiting to get in line,
no shot of them even getting in.
Damn.
I mean, it was crazy.
Just crazy, the club scene was just,
that was like probably the,
I think it made like the top 10 clubs in the country.
I could see that, man.
Yeah, I wonder where Vegas ranks in nightlife.
I know LA just got ranked the worst in nightlife.
Did it?
Yeah.
As of recent?
It was like a few days ago, yeah.
Wow.
Cause people just go on their phones
when they get inside the club.
What are the metrics for that?
Just like the...
Yeah, I wonder how they polled it,
but I'm assuming they just polled people out of 10
and said how much fun did you have or something,
I don't know.
People complaining.
Yeah, because no one's really dancing anymore.
Like my generation, we're just pulling up
to the club and the bar and we're on our phones.
I'm sure you see that at the restaurant too, right?
Everybody's on their phones.
50 people in a booth sitting on top of the chairs,
pouring a vodka Red Bull and on their phones,
I could see that.
No one enjoys their meal anymore
without being on the phone, it's crazy.
How about enjoying the people you're with?
Forget about the food, right?
Enjoy the people you're with,
like how often you all get to go together
and have dinner, right?
I mean, put your damn phones down, what's going on?
We say that, right?
We say that as customers when we go out,
or like we don't want to be on the phone,
but as restaurateurs, it's almost hypocrisy, right?
Because we want people to be on their phones
because the more they're on their phones,
the more coverage we're getting as a restaurant.
So when you're designing a menu nowadays
or you're designing a restaurant,
one of the first questions is,
what's Instagrammable?
What dish is gonna be Instagrammable?
Of course you want it to be good,
you want the flavor to be there,
presentation to be there, consistency,
but you want it to be an Instagrammable dish, to be there, presentation to be there, consistency, but you want it to be an Instagrammable dish
and you want your restaurant
to have multiple Instagrammable locations.
I mean, if you go to Berry's
and you look at the women's restroom, for example,
load it up, yeah, I mean, that's right.
Number one most Instagram,
we have the most selfies out of any other restaurant
in the bathroom.
We can almost do an Instagram page for Berry's
or page for Berry's of just bathroom selfies.
Everyone that goes in there loves it, right?
With the pink marble.
And then you have our garden room with the tree
and then you have the DJ area.
So yeah, we criticize it as guests
and maybe because you and I are getting old.
Yeah, you go out with these kids are on their phones,
but you as a business owner, you want that, right?
Yeah, I mean, I'm glued even dinner at home.
I'm on my phone while I'm watching YouTube while I'm eating.
And my girls always pissed. But I just so-
You phone to the bathroom too, right?
Yeah.
So addicting, man.
It's addicting.
Man.
How much did food influencers and social media
change the business for you guys?
People like Keith Lee and all those food influencers.
Night and day over the years.
And we saw it happen.
I remember-
Overnight.
Overnight, I remember we were running Nine Steakhouse.
And in about, I would say 2010 or 11
is when people started hiring social media managers
or promoting someone who was fluent
in the social media world to that position in the hotel.
And we have a meeting with our entire staff
and the property marketing VP was like,
hey, you got to meet our social media manager.
We're like, what the heck's a social media manager?
And she comes in and she makes us all sign up
on Twitter at the time and Instagram, create a page.
And okay, now you guys are gonna have to sign something
and we want all of your hourly staff to tag these hashtags.
And we're like, scratching our heads.
And then from then on, there was no return.
We started hosting within six months of that,
we were hosting a hashtag Tuesday events,
and then it changed completely, right?
Now it's to the point where most restaurants
or a lot of restaurants, including us,
don't even have a print marketing budget anymore.
It's all a social marketing budget.
Wow.
Yeah, I mean, you wanna do some quid pro quo
with some of these social media guys,
invite them in for dinner in exchange for a post.
That's way more valuable than you're paying
five, six grand for an ad in a magazine
that your demographic's probably not even gonna see.
You know?
No, I agree, because they'll tell their friends
and they'll send you guys business.
It's like a domino effect.
I mean, that's what happened with me, man.
Richard brought me in once, he paid for my meal,
and then I've sent you guys probably
hundreds of people at this point.
Thank you. Yeah, so shout out to you guys like probably hundreds of people at this point. Thank you.
Yeah, so shout out to you guys.
So there's that portion, right,
which is to make sure you get the guys in to hashtag it,
but then you only have one shot to impress them, right?
Because if you come in and you didn't have a good dinner,
maybe you would have done, hey, you know, Richard,
for a favor, I'm gonna hashtag these guys or include them,
and then after that, you'd be like, I'm not going back.
Yeah, so you have to, you have that one shot
when they come in to wow them, and then you've got a customer. First then after that, you'd be like, I'm not going back. Yeah. So you have to, you have that one shot when they come in to wow them.
And then you've got a customer.
First impression, yeah.
Cause there's so many steakhouse options in Vegas.
Hundreds.
It's gotta be one of the most competitive.
Yeah, but you know, it is, you're right about that.
But when I first started, you know,
with Charlie Palmer Steak,
there was just a handful of steakhouse.
They weren't really,
it was different restaurants and hotels and whatnot.
But, um, I mean, uh, uh, Emeril had his steak house and, um, Charlie came in and then manually Bay followed up with another steak house and it just seemed like
everybody's doing steak houses throughout the years.
So every hotel has a steak house.
At least one.
At least one.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
Some of them have like two or three.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's nuts.
Even though hotels off strip, like you got Hanks in Green Valley.
It's a staple.
If you're a hotelier,
you're building your food and beverage program,
usually the main restaurant, the main attraction
is gonna be a steakhouse.
That's what, I mean, for Americans and for this country,
that's what fried dining and social environments
require is a steakhouse.
Yeah. Talk business at a steakhouse, go to environments require is a steakhouse. Yeah.
Yeah.
Talk business at a steakhouse, go to romantic dinner at a steakhouse.
Steakhouse doesn't necessarily mean that, hey, we just have steaks, we have everything.
We have a vegan menu at a steakhouse.
Yeah.
You need everything these days, right?
Where do you rank Vegas steakhouses compared to New York steakhouses?
Best.
Best in the world.
You think Vegas is the best?
Vegas, for me, has the best restaurants in the world because mostly every chef is here,
whether they're here or not, their business is here.
Right.
You know, Joe Robuchon, Guy Savoie, Charlie Palmer, all the great ones here, Michael Mina.
Yeah.
I mean, they're here.
That's true.
They're here.
John George, Thomas Keller, everybody's here, buddy. Yeah, John George. George Thomas Keller. Everybody's here buddy
Yeah, you know and they'd be he's got it here. They just brought the famous New York one to Caesars, right?
Peter Lucas, Peter Lucas. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't tried it yet, but I heard that one's really good, right?
In New York, have you had it in New York? Yeah, sure. How was it? Well, New York's off the charts
That's a staple. I used to go there when you couldn't use a credit card.
You'd have a Peter Lueber credit card or it was cash.
Oh, wow.
But the times have changed, you know what I'm saying?
So yeah, New York was an experience, you know?
We haven't been to the one out here yet.
We got a few restaurants that are on the list.
Yeah.
Sometimes it's hard to replicate because some of the pizza spots come out here, it doesn't
hit the same amount. I grew up in Jersey. Yeah, and
Vegas is a different beast, right? A lot of chefs come out there, out here, and
think they can do what they do where they're from, it just doesn't work. Right.
It just doesn't work. You have to know your clientele. We're going 28, 27, and 28
years strong. We know our clientele well. We know what they want. We know how to,
we know how to produce.
That's what we do great.
Yeah.
Do you guys...
Oh, God.
No, I was going to say a lot of that has to do when you see these restaurants that are
successful in other locations, including overseas.
A lot of that doesn't have to do with the actual owners or restaurateurs saying, hey,
let's take a shot at Vegas.
A lot of that has to do with...
It's like sports scouting, right?
And like I'm a big soccer fan and soccer clubs have scouts that go around the world
and try to spot talent to bring them to the team.
So hotels have that here, right?
Their VP of Food and Beverage and their departments
go around the world and try restaurants
and try to convince people who own a restaurant in,
you know, I don't know, the Amalfi Coast or in London
to open in Vegas.
Wow.
And a lot of times you see people turn it down
because they feel that it's succumbing to
and selling out, right?
So they're going to the capitalism and selling out.
So they're like, nope, we're successful here in Tokyo,
so we don't want to open in Vegas.
But a lot of times it's too good,
it's really an awesome opportunity for them.
They have a couple of VPs in nice suits
that dine at your little restaurant in New York
and convince you that, hey, we can open one in Caesar's
or at MGM, you guys are gonna be successful.
And then sometimes it's a flop,
it's because exactly what Chef was saying,
it's like it's a great little cute location,
mom and pop joint in Brooklyn,
that's been successful for years,
but it's not necessarily gonna work
when you have the masses that are walking
through Caesar's Palace looking for the best deal, right?
Yeah.
And a cheap bite.
So that's kind of what happens
with these restaurants that come out.
Some work, some don't.
I mean, like a Bavette's.
Bavette's is a famous eatery in Chicago
and it works great out here.
I love Bavette's, man.
That's my favorite spot for bone marrow.
Yeah. Holy crap.
They hook you up on bone marrow there.
You have bone marrow with me or no?
No. Oh, you gotta do it. I gotta try it. Okay. Yeah, please up on bone marrow there. You have bone marrow with me or no? No.
Oh, you gotta do it.
I gotta try it.
Okay.
Yeah, please come on in.
I'll definitely cut.
Bone marrow's one of my favorite appetizers.
It's so good.
I didn't know hotels were doing that.
That's really interesting.
Other than Circa, which hotel do you think
has the best dining in Vegas?
I think it would be hard to deny that you have,
I would say Wynn.
Yeah, well, I think it's a good platform.
But Venetian's been known, I mean, especially with their former leadership in the food and beverage department.
I think that they have one of the biggest platforms, one of the most renowned platforms.
They're bringing Kote to the Korean steakhouse.
Yeah, there you go. See? So they're always on the front.
And look, they just finally closed the deal with José Andrés.
A bizarre meat, right?
The longest time was, I actually opened that place.
Oh, you did?
In Sahara?
Is that leaving the Sahara?
Yeah.
I think it's, if it's gone already,
or is it close to be gone?
Yeah, it's gonna open up at the Venetian.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And then you have, then of course you have Cosmo, Aria,
that whole combo.
I mean, it's hard to it's hard to battle them, too
I think they're very very aggressive with their their plan to
Overall hotels serve good food. Yeah, it's hard to pick. They're yeah, Aria is solid. Yeah, Carbone John George's
Dente fangs pretty good the Asian spot. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure you guys are doing a lot of R&D on the side, right?
Always I mean here in Vegas and then traveling mostly
You know to get ideas. Yeah
Europe a lot
Middle East soon and then I mean just going around town and trying stuff
Should we go to Chicago for the restaurant show over you to stay on top of what's happening in our industry?
Chicago and New York are great spots. I love it. What's your guys most popular dish?
And what's the story behind the creation of it? How did it come about?
I mean, there's so many popular dishes we've done all through the year.
My favorite dish now is the lobster flambé.
That's my ultimate favorite dish.
I think it's just an amazing dish.
A seven pound main lobster taken out of the shell, sauteed in some truffle oil with shallots
and garlic, flamed with some brandy, finished with some truffle butter,
splash of cream and lobster stock, fresh truffles, asparagus, potato gnocchis, all combined together,
finished with a little sea salt. It's my favorite dish. The lamb chops, parmesan,
pine nut crust is one of our staple dishes. Bone marrow flies out of the restaurant, right?
Damn, I didn't know that.
Yeah, and our rib cap, our prime-
Oh, I've got not.
... mussel. That's just good. the restaurant, right? Damn, I didn't know that. Yeah, and our rib cap, our primal gallus muscle.
That's just good.
So we got so many great dishes,
but my favorite dish is the lobster flambé
that I prepare table side for the guests when they come in.
It's quite pricey, but listen, we're in Vegas.
Treat yourself, don't cheat yourself.
You make some money, hit the restaurant after, you know?
My boy just made 500K last week.
What, Parley?
Cosmo, blackjack oh you
gotta you gotta be on it wait you gotta get a sick run if you he was betting
10k a hand he actually usually loses like a hundred or 200k but this trip he
just ran hot really yeah does he so what's his dining etiquette when he's
playing does he actually stop for a full meal or yeah I actually grabbed a meal
with the matter what's that Asian restaurant in the Cosmo?
Mamufoku.
Mamufoku, yeah.
And they comp his meals and stuff.
So yeah, he eats.
I mean, they comp you a lot when you're gambling that much.
All his shows and everything.
That's the cool part about Vegas.
Some of the most interesting guests for us over the years
have been gamblers, right?
Yeah.
And they're different types of gamblers.
There are poker players, and poker players just take
a full on two, three hour break
and go have a dinner.
Then you have blackjack players,
and you have sports bettors at Circa,
obviously with what Derek Stevens built
with the sports book wise.
But the most interesting is picking these guys brains
when they eat.
Some of them want to talk.
Some of them are just like,
hey, I'm here at the bar,
I want to grab a bite and grab a bite.
But they're also some of the best tippers,
is gamblers.
And I don't know if that has to do with the fact that they just won or not, but
I think it's just part of their, yeah,
could play a role. Plus they believe in karma. I feel like, right. Good energy.
Vinny Paz won.
My friend just got inducted into the boxing hall of fame. Yeah. And he was,
he was in Vegas after Roy Jones had just beaten him. It's a big story behind it.
He was in Vegas. I think he dropped like $100,000.
And he had a couple of dollars in his pocket.
And he's walking down the street when it was ballies at the time.
And, um...
I don't know, a casino host sees him walking.
He says, hey, Vinny. He says, what's happening?
He goes, hey, what's up?
He goes, you gonna come and play? He goes,
ah, I didn't get too much money on me right now.
He says, but, uh...
He says, I got to, I'll give you a line.
I think it was $10,000 or $15 $15,000. It wins almost a million dollars.
What?
That night. Yeah. What a $10,000 or $15,000. I wins them all. Marty Kunkel was the, was
the dealer and I met Marty throughout the years and he comes in with him every once
in a while. They still talk to each other, but you know, for like 10 or 15,000 to win
a million dollars and a guy was splitting tens
Doubling down on tens and getting an ace. That's the luck and the horseshoe we had in his ass, right?
I mean that's crazy. Dude. That's that's the biggest RLI I've ever heard. That's the big. That's a true story
Yeah, cuz usually to win a million you start with six figures at least
Ten to fifteen might even been twelve. I don't know what the exact number is. My gosh. Did he come in?
He wasn't in town this week.
I didn't see him.
Yeah, that's nuts.
Vegas is known for legendary stories like that, right?
I'm sure a lot of guys celebrate historic nights at your spot, right?
I've seen you guys cook for a lot of famous people after the fights and stuff.
A lot of famous fighters, singers, everybody comes in.
Yeah.
That's really cool.
We're blessed.
That's impressive. You guys really crush it,
I think, on the word of mouth and the marketing aspect.
Thank you.
Compared to other steak houses,
I don't really see other steak houses doing that.
Thank you.
Right?
Yeah, I mean, it's also respecting the privacy
of these people when they come in.
A lot of places have automatically called their whole PR
and marketing department down from the hotel
to start doing pictures and making them sign stuff.
And for us, it's like, hey, we just let them come in,
have dinner, and if they're in the mood,
we'll do a picture, and if they're not in the mood,
we're like, hey, here's my card, here's my number,
the owners, and then that just makes them come back.
I love it.
I love coming back like that.
I tell them sign it, I ain't not eating.
I also think downtown is kind of more low key, too.
For sure.
You know, a lot of people thought
when we were going downtown, they're like,
you guys ain't gonna make it downtown.
There's nothing happening there.
It's a dead horse, you know?
And I'm like, you don't know who you're dealing with.
You know, we got a great team.
We produce great product.
Punch Design did our restaurant.
Gem did our kitchen.
I mean, we know how to, we know how to,
people just have to come, we know how to put it together,
you know, and it's this very special place.
Very, very special.
Yeah, not many reasons for me to go downtown,
but you guys, I will make that trip for, for sure.
It's, it's, it's, and you know what's simple?
People don't think it's hard to get there.
You just pull into Cirque Valley under the hotel part,
you pull right in, you're less than what 150 feet
from the escalator to go down.
You can take an elevator or an escalator down.
That's the luxury of being in that basement is easy access to the restaurant.
You don't have to wait.
Super easy.
Yeah.
Super easy.
Even the South Park's not that bad of a walk.
No, it's not that bad of a walk.
Yeah.
I love it though.
They made it good.
What do you guys got planned for this year any events or anything cool coming up?
What do we have cool coming up February a month of course Super Bowl this weekend Mother's Day coming up
Well, let's let's go. Let's go into the future. No this year was the first year that we did Thanksgiving to go right and
It went really well. I think we did what, 300 dinners to go? Maybe 300?
300.
Close to four.
Close to four.
And you know, the best way to learn is by doing something
and seeing what the mistakes are and how you can get better.
And next year, this year is gonna be much, much better.
You know, we're gonna do some different sides.
The price will be right around the same.
It's gonna be bigger and better and easier.
I mean, first of all, it's very, very easy.
You just pull into the valet,
we personally take the food out to you.
But we're gonna make that, that's for me,
I'm excited for that in Thanksgiving time.
It's gonna be pretty cool.
That's such a smart idea.
Who came up with that Thanksgiving to go?
It was a collaborative effort with Circa,
jumped in on that a lot as well.
Their marketing department and Derek Stevens
give us the blessing to use the valet. But in this day and age, especially after COVID with the cost of goods, it's very hard for
restaurants to survive anymore. So you throw competition in there, which already exists in
a city like Vegas. Now you're not only fighting for top line revenue, you're scrambling to make your
bottom line be successful. So you've got to think outside the box.
So to go, most restaurateurs prior to COVID
didn't like to do to-go orders
because you feel as a chef or as a restaurateur
that your best product is served
right there at the restaurant.
Most people take it to go and it's in a box.
It's not gonna be a good representation of your restaurant.
But after COVID and everyone was doing to-go orders
and you have the advent of all of the Uber Eats and all the rideshare eateries, you kind of have to jump on board.
So now every year, we close the year planning for the next year to think how are we going
to make the bottom line larger by not sacrificing anything for the guests and then doing to-go
orders the way we did Thanksgiving is definitely a successful way to do it.
Yeah, that's gonna be cool to see this year how that turns out. The rising costs,
I did want to talk about that because you see people on social media complaining about like the price of eating out,
but you guys got hit hard on that, right?
Super hard. So the meat industry, poultry industry got hit a couple years ago.
I mean, it's great. When you look at, sometimes I sit back and I look at a P&L, a profit and loss statement
from a restaurant we were running maybe five,
six years ago and you compare it to today,
it's almost like you're in a different country.
It's a different era.
Wow, it's that drastic in five years?
Listen, if you have anyone on the show
that has a breakfast restaurant,
they're dying right now because of dying eggs.
Oh.
Eggs are, it's just nuts.
I just paid $14 for a dozen of organic eggs.
I couldn't believe it.
Wow, that's crazy.
Yeah, so you're constantly having to think of creative ways
to maximize your bottom line,
and then there are just some things that hit you
just out of control, right?
So if, you know, we don't have as much eggs on our menu
as breakfast restaurants do,
but you have to find ways to get creative
all by not sacrificing your quality.
So, I mean, the easy answer is you raise your prices, right?
But how much can you keep raising your prices
in the restaurant business?
There's a point where you raise your prices
and you're gonna lose revenue
because people are gonna be like,
dude, I'm not paying $100 for a filet.
Like when I saw filets go up in the last couple of years,
when we were doing our R&D before opening berries,
we went to, I wanna say it's prime at the Bellagio maybe
in 2020, 2019 or 2020.
And when I saw that bill at the end and the filet,
or even on the menu, I was like, this is freaking,
it's a face.
Then we went to Mayfair, have a cocktail at the bar,
and it wasn't a table side cocktail, it wasn't anything.
It was just a regular old fashioned, and it was like 28 bucks.
Damn, jeez.
For a drink? What's going on here?
Yeah, so there's only so much you can do. I guess Bellagio and Unstripped, maybe you can get away with that. You can't do that downtown. regular old fashioned and it was like 28 bucks. Damn. Geez. For a drink?
What's going on here?
Yeah, so there's only so much you can do.
I guess Pelagio and Unstripped,
maybe you can get away with that.
You can't do that downtown.
No, 20 match for drinks is like my rule personally.
Oh yeah, I mean, right?
Otherwise you feel it's an insult, right?
Otherwise psychologically it just doesn't feel,
yeah, it doesn't feel good.
So with that in mind, you've gotta find ways
to keep your bottom line going, you know?
Yeah, and it's just consistency and taking care of people
and hoping more people come back
because you don't want to sacrifice on quality.
Some places do and I guarantee you,
you'll stop going to places where you go back
and you're like, that dish didn't taste the same.
It's the same price as it was,
but it didn't taste the same.
You're not going back.
No, that's happened to me so many times, actually,
in Vegas.
That was a lot.
Yeah.
You guys saw New Siraj just close last week,
Salt Bae's restaurant.
Yeah, I went there, first week it opened. Sir Edges closed last week, Salt Bay's restaurant. Yeah. I think their first week had opened.
I think it was too expensive personally.
I mean, I know he has the brand and everything, so he could probably charge
more, but I think it was too much more.
People, you know, people will try it.
Like I think I agree.
People will try it the first time and then they see the bill at the end.
Like we, we had dinner there.
I think it was three of us and the bill was like $2,500.
Holy crap.
Right?
And we didn't, we had-
You got the gold state.
No, we didn't get that.
We didn't get that.
We tried a lot of things, you know, and he came out and said hello and whatnot, but it
was an expensive restaurant.
And I mean, you know, you're next to T-Mobile.
Italy is across the street.
There's a lot of action when the games are going on and whatnot, right?
But I mean, it was probably a hot place to get to and it is a hot place.
The parking was horrendous.
Parking is terrible.
It's terrible.
It's also not a pregame.
That's why location is such a key factor in opening a restaurant.
Because I mean, you can argue that that's a great location.
I would argue that it's not for that concept, right?
It's not really a pre or post-game type restaurant.
When right across the street inside...
MGM. MGM, yeah.
Eataly, right?
Eataly, yeah.
That's a pre-post-game type of place, right?
You're not gonna sit down and have a $5,000 dinner
in a Turkish roast steak, right?
I think there's so many things with that.
First of all, shout out to all the guys that work there
during the opening that opened it.
We know the GM, we know the former GM.
And it's always sad to see a restaurant go down, but you can kind there during the opening that opened it. We know the GM, the former GM.
And it's always sad to see a restaurant go down, but you can kind of see the writing
on the wall.
And it also didn't help the whole World Cup debacle.
I mean, he lost a lot of respect internationally.
I saw that.
Yeah.
The pitch, grabbing the cup, grabbing, forcing Messi into a full.
Yeah.
What was he doing?
That was wild.
Yeah.
That was just a lot of a lot going on in one shot.
And a lot of people took offense to that.
Yeah.
I mean, the rest of the world is huge on soccer,
so when you disrespect the cup
and the number one player in the world like that,
I think that affects your brand image.
I mean, soccer's a big...
Somebody got him on the field, so somebody's head's rolling.
Yeah, someone got fired in that situation.
But no, you're right, soccer's probably the biggest sport
in the world, right?
In terms of viewership, so.
Yeah, that was damaging to him.
I never got into soccer until I met him.
Yeah.
And we were in the Caribbean,
and we opened up our friend's place down there,
and the World Cup was up.
Was it the World, what year was it?
Yeah, 2018.
2018, the World Cup was here.
Have you had any soccer players come through?
Yeah, who's from Croatia?
Oh, we have former soccer players.
Former soccer players, yeah.
Davor.
Yeah, former soccer players.
We haven't had any, honestly.
We've had every other sport in there.
My dream would be whenever there's a game in town,
we've gotta find the right context for it.
But there was a classical two years ago,
Real Madrid-Barcelona.
Oh, nice.
Yeah, that was cool.
That would have been sick to have some of those players.
Yeah, that would have been cool. I'll put you guys in touch with Gary Bracco. Do you know him?
What's his name? He does Dana White's Health. He's his health advisor. He's Ronaldo's health guy.
Oh nice. Yeah yeah so maybe you guys can get Ronaldo in there. You know who Jose Batista,
he used to play for the Toronto Blue Jays. He just purchased the local soccer team.
What is it?
Is that the AAA soccer team here?
And they play at Cashman.
Yeah, so he actually brought a bunch of the players in.
I don't know who those guys are, you know.
Yeah, I can't name any AAA players personally.
Have you guys seen a trend health-wise,
people care more about their health at the restaurant?
Because that's like a big thing right now on social media.
I, I, I haven't seen it in our restaurant because it is a steak house.
And when you're ordering lobster flambé and desserts and all those
kinds of crazy dishes, right.
Um, I really haven't seen it.
I haven't have you.
I mean, there are some people that we do on a different scale.
Here's how it works.
So a lot of the, the, the Lewis, Williams Dragons layer and his entire team.
They come to Barrage religiously and they're great.
And they send us tons of business.
And the way it works is they'll make a reservation
for someone who's a bodybuilder from Brazil
or someone from the UK.
Like both Mr. Olympias, 212 and main Mr. Olympia
came and dined right after.
So there's two ways they do it. If they are dining after their show, they're splurging. But a lot of times they're
in prep. So we'll get texts from people at Dragon's Air or their coaches telling us,
hey, when they come in, can you guys please do this? And it's very specific instruction.
Right.
Cook a filet, no butter.
No seed oils, right?
No seed oils. Yeah. So you see that. Then there's the vegan
trend that picked up and became a way of life, which is why we actually have on our regular
dinner menu, we have an entire vegan section because people tend to eat less red meat and
they want vegan. So yeah, there is a trend in that manner. Wow. I didn't know the vegan trend
was that strong. So you got to make it separate. It was really strong. Holy crap. But also the
hospitality factor kicked in for us
because in the past, if you're a vegan
or you have to eat gluten free
or you have a dietary restriction
and you're eating with a group of six,
you kind of stand out, right?
And it's not the best way to make a guest feel.
So let's say you're the vegan and us three dining,
you have to ask for a separate menu
or they're gonna talk to the chef for you.
So if you include those items on the regular menu,
it makes them feel included into the dining experience,
which for us is what hospitality is about.
That makes sense.
Are you guys on the food delivery ops too or no?
We are not.
Was that by choice?
Yeah, and I don't think,
it was a whole debacle with that before we even started.
It was during COVID, the rates of Uber Eats and everyone
jumped in with all of the local restaurants
in terms of how that works.
But I don't think that there's going to be much of a demand for higher end.
We don't foresee anyone going on there and ordering $300 worth of steak on Uber Eats.
I could be wrong.
I mean, maybe that's something we need to explore.
I don't think so because I think if somebody wants something to go, we do a lot of to go food, believe it or not, people come and pick up stuff. But I agree. I don't think so because I think if somebody wants something to go we do we do a lot of to-go food believe it or not people
Come on pick up some stuff, but I
Agree, I don't I don't I don't think we see yeah
I was asking because I don't see many good steak houses on I order Postmates like five times a week
Yeah, and I never see any like nice steak houses on there
Would you order from a fine dining steak house if you wanted a filet mignon?
I would try it, but it probably wouldn't taste as good to be honest. No, but stay a boy. Yes, thank you
I'd eat hot.
Yeah, so that's a good point.
It'd have to be quick delivery for it to be worth it.
Because if it gets there cold,
then paying a hundred bucks for cold steak.
You know?
Yeah, I was, yeah.
Damn.
And then you're reheating, so if you're, you know,
if you're keen on your temperature of your steak,
you're changing that completely.
Yeah.
Depending on how you're eating.
No, that's facts.
Like when I microwave food, it doesn't hit the same ever.
You know?
Well, guys, where can people find both of you on social media
and learn more about Berry's and Circa?
So for the restaurant, we're at Berry's Prime.
B-A-R-R-Y-S-P-R-I-M-E, right?
At Berry's Prime.
We're pretty active on there.
We repost a lot of the stories people post,
and a lot of our events and food is on there
Yeah, well that shift bear at chef Barry Jeff Barry cool we'll link it below guys definitely check them out one of my favorite Steak houses in Vegas. Thanks for coming on guys. Thanks for having great great to be here and thank you for having us
I'm gonna have some bone marrow. Oh, I will that's on my list next week. I'm either. All right guys. Take it easy
Thank you. Thank you