Digital Social Hour - How Dale Brisby Pioneered Rodeo Content Creation | Dale Brisby DSH #1121

Episode Date: January 18, 2025

How does the world’s greatest bull rider and pioneer of rodeo content creation do it all? Find out as Dale Brisby joins Sean Kelly on the Digital Social Hour Podcast for an unforgettable conversation! 🤠📹 From growing up immersed in the rodeo lifestyle to revolutionizing the industry with his trailblazing YouTube videos and vlogs, Dale shares his journey, insights into ranching and rodeo life, and the challenges of modern farming. 🌟   Get the inside scoop on everything from the National Finals Rodeo (NFR) and rodeo culture to Dale’s take on raising cattle, hunting, and dealing with foxes on his ranch. 🐴 Plus, hear how he balances his ranching roots with creating engaging online content that resonates with millions. This episode is packed with valuable insights, laughs, and a behind-the-scenes look at the rodeo world.   Don’t miss out! 🎯 Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and join the conversation on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀   #communityconnections #meatsubscriptionbox #groceryhaul #sustainablepractices #climatechange   #wranglernationalfinalsrodeo #rodeocontentcreation #professionalcowboysrodeoassociation #cowboys #jbmauney   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:22 - Dale Brisby 05:00 - Today’s Sponsor 07:11 - Challenges of Starting a Ranch 14:22 - Eggs and Nutrition 16:14 - Beef Production Insights 17:40 - Healthy Diet Choices 19:02 - Pickleball Fun 19:56 - Jiu Jitsu Training 22:49 - Raccoon Encounters 25:04 - Bow Hunting Techniques 27:57 - Coyote Management 29:22 - Buying a Cow Tips 31:21 - China and US Farmland 31:48 - Bill Gates' Investments 34:17 - What's Next for Dale 38:27 - Outro   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail]   GUEST:  Dale Brisby https://www.instagram.com/dalebrisby   SPONSORS: SPECIALIZED RECRUITING GROUP: https://www.srgpros.com/   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/

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and rodeo's been going great, and yeah, just good to see all my fans. Yes, sir, you got a lot. You're probably getting hounded this week. Yeah, you know, being the world's greatest bull rider and the most humble, you know, I just, I can't keep them away. What's the longest you've lasted on a bowl?

Oh shoot, minutes, hours maybe. Yeah, just keep riding and riding. Yeah. Man, I remember when I went last year, it was like a big deal if someone got like five seconds. Yeah, so was that the first time you had been? First time. This is a good one to go to for your first time.

It's kind of our Super Bowl of rodeo. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, this is the big one. I didn't know that. The NFR. What makes this one the big one? So all year at all the smaller rodeos throughout the year, like everybody's competing to win enough money

to make it to here, the NFR in Vegas. Got it. It's always in December. Starts the first Thursday in December of every year. And yeah, this is where the best of the best come to compete. So you saw a good one for your first time. Yeah, it was packed. Holy crap.

I did not know it was that big of a sport because you don't really see it on TV. Well, there's all kinds of little rodeos all over the world or country for sure. That there'll be small ones and there's some bigger ones, Houston, Cheyenne, throughout the year, but San Antonio. But the NFR is everybody's, that's what all rodeo cowboys wanna get to.

Yeah, that makes sense. Was it a big deal for you growing up as a kid going to these events? Yes, yeah, growing up, my dad, he kinda did all the events at any given time in his life, but we kinda stuck to the rough stock end of the arena. So like the bucking horse events and the bull riding, bull fighters.

That's kind of where my life angled towards. They call it the rough stock. Yeah, so there's two ends of the arena. The roping events would be like, you know, like team roping where two guys rope a steer. Like that's a timed event. And when you get him roped, the time stops. Well, the rough stock, you got to ride for eight seconds

and it's a scored event. And because of the way that the stock is, it's literally on different ends of the arena. So your timed event comes off one end of the arena, the rough stock comes off the other end. And so we're a little bit segregated, but the rough stock end is where I usually spent most of my time growing up.

Yeah, more danger than that one, it sounds like. For sure. So the money's probably higher, I'd spent most of my time growing up. Yeah, more danger in that one, it sounds like. For sure. So the money's probably higher, I'd assume. Money's usually the same for both ends of the arena, unless you're talking about bull riding. Bull rider's usually like, cause that, I mean, that's the ultimate draw to a rodeo and that's why it's at the end of the rodeo.

And typically there might be a little bit more added in the bull ride. Yeah, cause when I think of rodeo, I think of bull riding. That's like what I associated with when I went to the event and I saw all these other events, I was like, I've never heard of this, you know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's the one that gets the most recognition.

So there's also what's called the PBR, which is another association that branched off in the 90s. And it's just bull riding. And so they also have a season and a finals that's separate from the NFR. That makes sense. Kind of confusing, but it's kind of like the NFL and the XFL, but except both of our associations

are both equally as big. Yeah, what state or I guess cities have the best bull riders in your opinion? Texas definitely throws the most Cowboys just cuz you know, we've got the most and so pound for pound you're probably gonna get your most world champions come out of Texas just cuz You know, but but they can come from all over occasionally they come from Canada. You'll get some from Brazil occasionally. Brazil has a lot of good bull riders. So occasionally get some international.

But for the most part, it'd be hard for me to bet against Texas for having the most rodeo cowboys. You guys are going to have football and rodeo. Yeah, Friday Night Lights, and then Saturday we're at the rodeo. That's how it works over there? Yeah, that's how it works in Texas. Did you play football too growing up? Oh, yeah, pretty, yeah. Friday night lights, and then Saturday we're at the rodeo. Oh, that's how it works over there? Yeah, that's how it works in Texas. That's cool.

Did you play football too growing up? Oh yeah, we had to. It was like a force thing for you? Yeah, it was non-negotiable. Yeah, it's just like you play football, you get on bucking horses. Like that was how we grew up. What was your position?

Cause you're not a huge person. I mean, you know, the cameras are deceiving, but I was a quarterback and a linebacker, but again, it was a pretty small town. So playing both ways, that's... Damn, that must have been tiring. Holy crap. Yeah, we had not very many people on the team, but...

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Oh yeah, now you're out here going to major cities and selling out arenas, that's a cool transition, right? Yeah, you know, doing my best. Must've been a big shock to you at first, I'd assume. Yeah, no, I mean, this lifestyle for sure has been a shock, which is based around the internet with the podcast and the videos we've been making. That was an adjustment.

So the animals were, that's how it's always been for me. But the internet side of things has kind of been what's been different. That was a big transition for you, right? You started getting injured and you were like, I need to do something else. Yeah, we started making videos 11 years ago. Damn.

Yeah. That's like when YouTube was just starting up, right? Yeah. I mean, in mainstream, there was a few more people, but like in the rodeo industry, there was nobody making videos. So I was kind of a pioneer for our industry as far as like consistently putting out content.

Yeah. That's interesting. But there's just, and there's still not as many as there needs to be like making content about ranching and rodeo. I don't see that many personally. Yeah. But the world's hungry for it, you know,

cause it's a good lifestyle. Yeah. Yeah. These days it's gotten tougher though, right? With the farming stuff. It's not as affordable as it used to be. Man, there's all kinds of challenges, you know, like, yeah, diesel and your expenses.

You kind of got to either inherit the land or you lease it. You can't just go buy land and then run cows on it and make it work. Like, unless you made your money somewhere else. But if you're starting from the bottom and you're like, I wanna be a rancher and you have no money, well, it's just not gonna work. You can work for a rancher,

but you can't just go buy a ranch and buy cows and then make money to pay for them both. You know what I'm saying? So the cost of entry is a little bit high, but there's ways to go about it. And that's one of the things we talk about on my channel sometimes is like different jobs you can get. I could put out videos like that.

Well, I think at the very minimum, it'd be cool to just have animals for your own family to eat and live off of. You don't have to necessarily sell them too. That's becoming so popular. I mean, people start with the chickens. They'll get a few chickens. And then before you know it, they want to raise their own beef.

And so yeah, raising your own food has become a thing now, which is good. It's great, because you don't, I mean, the meat in the grocery store, it's hard to trust that stuff, you know? Yeah, well, you never know. I think that's one thing. A lot of the meat in the grocery store, like it's kind of a misconception

that like there's rules for the way we raise our cattle. You know, like there's rules to be followed. And you know, you can go about like, I typically trust, I do trust the meat in the grocery store. Really? Like, yeah, of course. I still, because I'm as a producer, like I know, I just don't know meat in the grocery store. Really? Yeah, of course. Because as a producer, I just don't

know anybody in the industry who's raised beef in a way that I wouldn't trust to eat that beef out of the, I've just never seen that. Oh, man, I know the way this rancher treats his cattle. And that means I'm not going to eat the beef from his, you know what I'm saying? I don't think ranchers like you and your friends are the problem.

I think it's these big food companies with these massive farms that are the problem. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's just so I'm just what specifically do you are you thinking? Like just like you see these meats and they're like injected or whatever they put all this these growth hormones in the chickens. Like when you go to the store and you see the meats and they're like injected or whatever, they put all these growth hormones in the chickens.

Like when you go to the store and you see these rotisserie chickens and the size of them and they're only six to eight weeks old. Yeah. It's like kind of concerning to me. Yeah. You know, I don't know all the exact science of it, but like one of the things with like hormones in beef is like, all right, I'll just do some quick math.

So whenever you've got some, you've got a steer on feed, and they only get grain towards the end of their life. So everything is grass-fed. Everything is grass-fed up to a certain point. And then the last 120 days, they'll eat some grain, and that'll make them a little fatter. Well, if they're eating, it's going to take them on average

without any growth promotants or AKA hormones, it's gonna take them at least seven pounds of feed that they gotta eat to gain one pound. Wow. That's called feed conversion. So the feed conversion for like average, I'm just guessing it's seven. Well, if we can put this growth hormone in them,

in their ear long before they're gonna go to slaughter. So it's not like two weeks before they get slaughtered. Well, what it does is it makes them more efficient. So now all of a sudden that seven goes down to five. Okay, so if you've got, that means it takes five pounds to put on one pound of gain. Well, they're gonna eat enough to gain three pounds.

So without the growth promoting, that's 21. But while they're on that growth promoting, that's 15. Got it. So that's six pounds in one day that that steer didn't have to eat, but he still gained the same amount of weight. You follow me? Yeah, yeah. So that's six pounds.

And if you're in a feedlot with, I mean, a small feedlot would be 1,000 head. That's a small one? Yeah, there's feedlots so big out there. Wow. So if it's 1,000 head feedlot, that's 6,000 pounds of feed in one day. Damn.

That they did not have to. I mean, talk about efficiency. From a business point of view, I get it. And so when you look at all the challenges we have, like, wait a second, you're telling me we can feed 6,000 pounds less in a day. So that's 60,000 in 100 days. Right.

So then if you backtrack, like a lot of these vaccines and these like growth, you know, hormones, whatever, like they've got withdrawal periods, meaning like when they get given to these cattle, like a vaccine, it's got a 30 day withdrawal period. Oh, I didn't know that. Meaning like after 30 days, it's out of their system. Okay.

So like, it's not gonna just go, yeah, if you were to like do something to a calf, like two days before it were to get slaughtered, like, yeah, something's gonna show up. There's gonna be some residue show up. But if it's a hundred days before, if it's 120 days before, the risk is not there as far as, anyway,

that's my understanding when I look at the data. Now, I'm not a scientist, but I think what's concerning to me is that there's a lot of people that they're really just headline reading, you know, and the USDA and some people don't trust the FDA, but whatever, that's fine. You know, they're doing their best to be efficient

in an area, you know, for this country to produce enough food to feed everyone. Because that's, it's not sustainable. If everybody switched to grass-fed only, with no growth hormones at all, we'd run it. We can't do it. Really? It's just not sustainable. We wouldn't be able to keep up. Logistically, we wouldn't be able to do that.

And anyways, that's, I'm nerding out, I'm sorry. No, this is super interesting to me. I never got like a perspective from someone in your shoes, honestly. There's just a little more to it that, and there's probably something in the middle. Like if you can raise your own, of course, why wouldn't that be, you know exactly what this animal ate,

you know exactly what the, well that's, but how many people can actually do that? You know what I mean? Like across the board. Like here in this town of Las Vegas, like how many people are gonna actually, living in an apartment, like so. Yeah, it's not scalable that way.

You need land too. It's exactly, it's just a, it's a hunch that people think that like this growth hormone that this one steer had 120 days before it was slaughtered is going to affect there. And on paper, if you look at a headline like, oh, yeah, that's probably not good. Well, do you know it's not good? No, but it's probably not good.

All right, well, then the whole country needs to change because I think it's probably not. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Anyway. Yeah, no, that's good to know. I was under the assumption that when they were injected, you were kind of eating that, honestly.

Like, it was still in them. Yeah, I don't think it's that simple. But yeah. What about this whole debate with the eggs, with the pasture-raised eggs? Have you been following that? I really don't mind caged chickens, because chickens are cannibalistic.

So if one of them goes down, they're going to eat each other. No way. Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. Chickens are cannibalistic. So if one of them goes down, they're going to eat each other. No way. Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. Chickens are gross, man. I just don't mind if a chicken's been in a cage, personally.

Because sometimes it can be. And also, it's just like the conditions in which pasture raised is kind of a loose term. Like some of these places where they are, well, they might as well just be in a cage. Yeah, there's a little opening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see the outside.

Yeah, and again, what that chicken is consuming definitely affects the eggs, for sure. So if they are, if you have your own chickens and they're able to like just, and you're able to like make yourself a pasture, even if you got, let's say you got 15 chickens in the size of this room, and they're able to like just be, and you're able to like make yourself a pasture. Even if you got, let's say you got 15 chickens in the size of this room and they're able to eat bugs and stuff like that's gonna positively affect the eggs.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying I'm not knocking it, but again, it's not sustainable for the masses. And if someone wants to raise their own and put them in a pasture, quote unquote, the size of this room, that's fine. But that doesn't mean that your person in the apartment who can't, that doesn't mean that a caged chicken egg

is going to be bad for them. Right. You see what I'm saying? No, I do. They charge a crazy amount more if you want the free range. It's so much more. It's like 12 bucks. Correct.

Crazy. And if people want to buy that, I'm not against it. Same thing with the beef. I'm not against somebody buying organic. But you're if people wanna buy that, I'm not against it. Same thing with the beef. I'm not against somebody buying organic, but you're gonna pay a premium and it's just not sustainable for everyday Americans. Yeah. Is what?

That's the, and so I don't mind if someone wants to do that. I just, I'm not a fan of demonizing the ones who can't. See what I'm saying? No, I do, I do. And there's all these labels with the beef. It's like grass-fed and now there's there's grass finished. Have you seen that one? Yeah, and and and that's fine too again

It's gonna be a leaner cut of meat and that if that's what you're after. That's fine I personally like grain finished because you know, it gives the marbling which is a little bit of fat in between the layers of meat And it's just I like grain finish too. I order from, you know, Snake River Farms? I've not heard of them. No, they're in Colorado. Yeah, I look them up. Yeah, they're good. Creek Stone's good too.

Yeah. Have you got Creek Stone? No, I haven't. Okay. There's the four sixes, they have some online beef and that's the only beef that I've gotten direct from a consumer, the people's beef. I mean, it makes sense.

You got your own source. So why would you be ordering? Yeah, but man, most of the beef I eat, like I'm gonna cook a steak after this at the Airbnb that I got at the grocery store, Walmart. At Walmart? Yeah, Walmart has good steak. Are you serious?

Yeah, for sure. I didn't know that. Oh, for sure, it's all good, yeah. But anyways, that. Oh, for sure. It's all good, yeah. But anyways, that grass finished, it's just gonna be a leaner cut of meat, you know? But I don't mind, because I've spent a lot of the last two years

on carnivore diet, which is, and you know, I eat fruit also, but like, I don't mind if my steer eats all the corn, makes it a really good steak, and then I'll just skip the corn and eat the steak, you know? So anyway, that's my theory. That's impressive. I've done a little cheating while out here in Vegas,

had a couple of cookies last night. Y'all's food out here is crazy good. You could get fat out here easily. Yes. Man, we got some of the best restaurants. Yeah, well, you obviously have good self-control because you are not fat. I eat a lot though. Do you? You're tall. I, well, you obviously have good self-control because you are not fat.

I eat a lot though. Do you? You're tall. I'm six, five. I guess less genetics. Play a lot of basketball? I do. And I burn 2000 calories a day just sitting.

I love basketball. It's the best sport. I got the Jordans on. I don't know how many cowboys you have in here, but I'm probably the only one wearing Jordans because I just love watching it. I'm terrible at it. I suck at it, but I love watching it only one wearing Jordans because I just love watching it. I'm terrible at it. I suck at it, but I love watching it.

Who's your team? The Mavericks. Yeah, I've gone to a few games. And yeah, that's. They got a good team this year. They do. Yeah, we almost made it last year. We almost had them.

Yeah, you made it to the finals last year. Yeah, for sure. I thought about that. But now you got Clay. Luca, Kyrie, Clay. Yeah, I'm hoping this is our year. Could be your year. I usually go to a game or two in January. Yeah. Yeah, I'm hoping this is our year. Could be your year. I usually go to a game or two in January.

Yeah? Yeah, you guys haven't won it since Dirk. That was a while ago. Yeah, been a minute. 2008 or something? Has it been that long? I wasn't watching as avidly then as I am now. OK, so that's your favorite sport to watch right now?

Outside of rodeo. Yeah, I'll agree with that. College basketball I like even more. It's hard for me. I just, my schedule, like by the time I fall in love with a player, he's gone. Yeah, I feel that. That's a good point.

You on the pickleball wave yet? You play pickleball? I haven't. No? I got some friends that do, but yeah, I haven't tried it yet. Well done for avoiding it this long. Right? Apparently, it's the thing.

I get asked every like two days. Oh, so you're avoiding also? I played it once. It's all right, you know? Yeah. It's kind of easy. I like two days. Oh, so you're avoiding also? I played it once. It's all right, you know? Yeah. It's kind of easy. I like challenging sports. For sure.

That's why I like basketball, because it's like a new game every time you step on there. You don't know what to expect. Right. Pickleball is kind of just like the same thing every time. Yeah. Yeah, tennis seems interesting to me. I played a little bit when I was a kid, but like, yeah, I don't know. Tennis is a tough sport.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, in terms of difficulty, I would rank tennis pretty high as well. I mean, rodeo's gotta be super high, I'd imagine. What about the, yeah, definitely. Cause there's only so much, every tennis court's the same, every basketball court's the same, but every bowl is different.

And then the weather's different at the rodeo. What about Jiu-Jitsu? Have you gotten into that yet? Everybody's doing it. No, I do want to develop that, because that's good to just have in your repertoire. I bet there's some gyms here. Oh, there's a lot.

Vegas is known for fighting. Yeah. I come out here every now and then with a buddy in the UFC, and I get to be around it a little bit. But I've been rolling Jiu-Jitsu. I love that. Yeah, you can hang. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Don't get me wrong. I'm an aspiring Jiu-Jitsu. Oh, God. I'm a white belt, very much a white belt. I got to, like, I think blue belt in karate growing up, but I haven't fought since. Oh, you're a blue belt in karate. Well, you could probably just roll that over.

I don't know. Karate's pretty useless, in my opinion. Yeah. But I'm saying, like, you've probably got enough coordination, and you could probably pick up Jiu-Jitsu pretty quick. My coordination's decent, because I'm a gamer. Right? I'm a big time gamer.

I'm like top thousand in Fortnite. So I got really fast reflexes. I don't know much, but that sounds like a big deal. It's pretty impressive. Yeah, there's a lot of Fortnite players. You've never played? No. I mean, I've played maybe one time Call of duty. Oh, yeah, that was it

Shoes yeah, there's a buddy of mine. He rides Bulls JB Mooney, and he is a gamer and he yeah every time you go to his house They bug they go he goes from bucking Bulls Into his little office where we game and then he just whoops my ass at something different. Yeah, yeah. He just, yeah. Yeah, you gotta be careful with the gaming. You could just play for 10 hours straight. Yeah.

You know? I kinda gotta move around. I don't know that I could probably play for 10 hours straight. I gotta move around. Yeah, I'm like that too. I think I have ADHD or something. I just need to be doing something.

Yeah. When I'm sitting still, I get nervous. Yeah, you would do well on a ranch then, because there's always something to do. Yeah, I'm sure it's a lot of work. You come to Texas, we'll put you to work on Radiator Ranch. Oh yeah? Yeah, there's always something to do.

How many acres you got out there? Not many, man, I got, my little home place is 40 acres. That's a lot. I got some lease places, but right now, my favorite thing to do as far as like, I can't wait to get home. In the evenings I've been like walking around, hunting with my little 22.

Cause dude, man, these foxes keep snapping nabbing my chickens. Damn, they're on your ranch? Yeah, they show up and I've gotten a couple. But anyways, I'm just trying to protect my chickens. Raccoons will kill them, skunks will kill a chicken. Did you know that? No way. Oh yeah.

Dude, raccoons are the worst. Are you allowed to kill raccoons? Oh yeah, for sure. No clock. Skunks, raccoons, foxes, you can, they're varmints and you can get them in Texas. There's not a season on them, but like raccoons, they'll reach through the cage and you know, they're.

Yeah, they're smart, right? Yeah, they got pretty good dexterity. And yeah, anyways. I thought raccoons were vegan for some reason. I didn't know they were eating chicken. No, no, no, no. They will kill puppies. Yeah, you got to watch out.

They're ruthless, bro. You might have to get some Australian shepherds out there or guard dogs or something. Yeah, my dog just died. Oh, sorry to hear that. Yeah. Oh, catfish. Catfish was keeping them away. But ever since he passed, like stuff, to be honest,

I hadn't really thought about it till you just said that. Yeah. Was he a big boy? Yeah, well, he was a lab. And he was just loud. He would bark. And he was right by the chickens. That scares him away.

And so, yeah, it had to have. Damn. Maybe, yeah, that's when that freaking foxes started showing up, Donnie. How big are those foxes? Are they big? I got one that was pretty big. I should have weighed him because apparently that's a,

yeah, he had to have been 15 pounds, which is a huge fox. That's big for a fox, 15 pounds? Yeah. And they're very hard to track down, you know, slides a fox, the old saying. Because they're quick? Yeah. Just smart, I guess.

Damn. Yeah. Yeah, you got to get some dogs and some more guns. That's what I'm saying. Dude, I'm about to get into thermals and like, you know, where you can see them at night. I love those videos. Yeah, with the, and then like a suppressor on the 22.

I want to get really into it. But have you seen those YouTube videos with the thermal scopes of people hunting? Crazy. Crazy. The squirrels? Yeah, the stuff you can see. And then you'll see rats in the field.

Yeah, the rats. Yeah, like my neighbors, they're kind of used to it now. Like I'm just patrolling. Because I live on the edge of town. And I'm like the last house. And then my property goes outside of town, obviously. So I'm just waving to the neighbors and walking around at night with a 22 over my shoulder.

I must think you're crazy. It's like we're living in the 1800s. No, they get it now. But I'll have to text Debbie. She lives down the road. Hey, Debbie, that was me. If you heard a shot, it's a skunk. They're calling the cops on your ass.

No, she'll be like, oh, thank you. She sprayed my, that skunk sprayed my dog the other day. Damn, so you got skunks out there too? I got everything. Shit. Yeah, well, not less and less because Dale Brisby's on the scene with his 22 little. Yeah, I had it growing up in Jersey.

There was deer everywhere and you weren't allowed to shoot them. I see, I run into deer in town. That, I don't, yeah. I don't do a lot of deer hunting. They're pretty harmless, though. They just walk around. Yeah, yeah.

Deer in town, that's adorable more than it is threatening to my chickens. Yeah. I did see you go bow hunting, right? Yeah, I do like to elk hunt, go bow hunting in Colorado every winter. That's cool. Yeah.

So that's a pretty good challenge. You've got to kind of stock them down. And yeah, I was listening to Rogan talk about how hard it is to actually fire an 80 pound bow or whatever. Oh my gosh. You got to draw on it back. Yeah, you got to the poundage on there. I think mine's at like 76.

Jeez. It takes a while to get used to. That's insane. But yeah, listening to Rogan and Cam Haynes, they're like best friends. I went on Cam Haynes and he gave me a bow and that's what got me started. That's cool.

Yeah. You got an elk with that bow? Yeah. Yeah, that was the first thing I ever killed with a bow was an elk. Where are you supposed to shoot it? Right behind the shoulder, kind of midway up through their body.

And hopefully you're able to get a heart shot, or if not, two lungs. And yeah, I mean, it's a pretty merciful death because most of those elk are going to either die from a lion or they're going to suffocate. But usually predators, especially in Colorado now that they're re-releasing wolves, which is ridiculous. I saw that. So silly.

What's the thought process behind that? I don't know. I'm not sure how you, but like elk hunting up there, I go, a couple of ranchers guide me, and they're like, yeah. I mean, I've seen a wolf kill a baby calf or elk. And I'm not sure what they're trying to accomplish with turning them loose, but it's not. That's weird.

And you're not allowed to kill the wolves? Oh no. Yeah, they'll hang you for that one. What? Yeah, they got collars on them, tracking collars. No way. So if you were to kill one and then like they find it, well then they can track whether, you know,

where your cell phone went and all those things like, oh man, they will, they'll throw you under the jail for that one. Holy crap. Is what I've heard. That's crazy. Yeah, oh man, they will, they'll throw you under the jail for that one. Is what I've heard. That's crazy. Yeah, it's, but it's so silly that they're re-releasing them cause they're just so aggressive.

They kill so many elk. They must've released them to try to control a population of another animal. Nope. Right? No? Nope. Just to grow that population. Just to grow it. Yeah.

That's weird. Cause they're top of the food chain, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. Why would they want to grow that population. Just to grow it. Yeah. That's weird, because they're top of the food chain, right? Oh, yeah. Why would they want to grow that? That doesn't make sense to me. Yeah. I mean, there's bears out there too, right? Yeah, but you can hunt those. So we're able to help control the population.

And that's what hunting does. You're only allowed to kill so many of an animal, and everything's tracked. And there's conservation efforts to manage populations of a certain species. And, but these wolves, they just kill all day. Like they're not gonna kill just one elk like Dale Brisby did.

You know, they're gonna kill nine in a week or whatever. Yeah, we got coyotes out here, actually. Yeah, coyotes can do that too. I had a cow, had twins, and we went and a storm was coming. And me and this girl that was helping me, we were horseback. I put a calf in my lap. She put a calf in her lap. We were taking her to the truck because I'm in a big storm.

And the cow followed us. And we got to noticing our dogs were freaking out, and there were three coyotes circling us, followed us all the way back to the pickup, like 200 yards. Followed us all the way to the pickup. One of them took a long nap after that. Holy crap. Yeah, dude, they were after these calves.

This mama cow was so tired. That's nuts. But how many times are we not there to help save them? You know, that's true. You can't be there all day because that baby's helpless. Wow. But that's concerning, man. Yeah. Because that affects your livelihood. You know, they kill your cows for sure. That sucks. Yeah.

And then that's one less beef that goes to the grocery. How many cows you got? I don't know. Somewhere between 40, somewhere around 40. That's a good amount. Yeah. I call it light to moderate ranching. Yeah. Do you buy them all or do you just, do they have kids?

How does it work? Yeah, we've been raising them. So we got cow calf. We're at the cow calf stage. And we started, I started keeping my heifers and then you just change out the bull. That way you don't have any inbreeding. That makes sense.

But yeah. How much can, like if someone watching this wants to buy a cow, how much would that cost on average? One cow? Yeah. Well, right now the markets, you know, they're pretty expensive. So like if you were just,

if you were to just go to a sale barn and buy a, you know, let's say she's pregnant, then it's going to cost a good one right now is at least $2,500. Yeah, which is quite a bit. Yeah, six months ago, you maybe could have got that same cow for $1,200, $1,500. Whoa, so what caused that spike, you think? Yeah, the market's pretty high right now.

I'm not sure what all causes it. There's a lot of theories out there. Well, it could be RFK playing a role, too, right? This Make America Healthy Again movement. I'm not sure how much that would directly affect it, but I think he's gonna definitely help in the long run. You think so? The industry, I think so.

The main thing is just the silly restrictions. There's some countries like, I know I can't remember, think of the, well, Canada for one, they're driving all those tractors to the, because of the restrictions and the taxes and all the things that are being put on these farmers and ranchers that are just silly reasons,

like cow farts, and how they're affecting climate change. I don't know. Like that's just, why are we not more concerned with, for instance, China and how much they're affecting climate change? They do nothing. And we're making all these efforts. Well, now all of a sudden they're attacking the food,

the food industry, the ranching industry, trying to, I don't know, we're splitting hairs over here while the rest of the world doesn't care., I don't know, we're splitting hairs over here while the rest of the world doesn't care. And I don't know. I've seen. Let's get off the farmers and ranchers backs. Like our jobs are hard enough and they make no money.

No, for sure. You guys don't make as much as they used to. And they're feed. We're feeding the country. Like talk about that person in the apartment. Like if they don't think that the attack on farmers and ranchers is going to affect them, I mean, that's exactly, that's who it's gonna affect the most.

Yep. Yeah, I've seen news articles of China buying up farmland in the US, have you seen any of that with your network? Not as much in Texas, no, I haven't seen that, I'm sure they do, I think that's crazy. That's nuts. That should be repost. I think Trump wants to get rid of that.

Immediately. And some of it's like very strategically placed where it is like close to military bases. Like how is that not, y'all not see the, I mean, is the writing on the wall here? Like why is that not a, I don't know. It should be pretty black and white. And then you got Bill Gates buying up farmland too.

Have you seen that? I don't know what his plan is. That dude makes me nervous. I'm not sure what his angle is. I mean, he's already got the APO company. He's putting the stuff on the fruit. You see that? Uh-uh.

Yeah, he's putting a layer on each fruit to make it last longer. OK. But it's like a fake synthetic layer on the apples or whatever. Yeah, it sounds like he's trying to be more efficient. Yeah, because from a grocery store point of view, I get it, because the fruit lasts a few days, it goes bad.

So they want it to last longer, right? They could keep selling it. So that's what he's trying to fix, I guess. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot. I can't imagine. Every time I grab food at a grocery store, I think about, like, dang, how much of this is going to get bought before it gets wasted?

You know? Yeah, I can't imagine how much waste they have. It must be massive. For me, it's all chicken feed, because chickens will eat anything. So I don't hardly waste anything in the kitchen. Like if I don't get it eaten, my chickens eat it. That's cool.

So they'll eat literally anything. Oh dude, they'll, yeah, there's very little that they won't eat. Okay, I heard that about pigs too. Yep. You could feed pigs a bone and they'll eat the whole bone. Yeah, pigs, and they're pretty,

they're a little bit stronger jaws than chickens, so they would chew up a bone. I don't know, if you just threw a bone in a pig pen, I don't know that they would just attack it, but if they were eating something on a bone, I could see them eating it. Damn, you got pigs too or no? No, no, no, no, we don't rent pigs.

You don't like them or? Yeah, just, no, I mean, I don't mind them, but it's just, I'm not gonna raise, I really don't even raise my own beef to eat it. I have before, but when you harvest one beef, you're gonna only get so many steaks and then you get a whole bunch of ground beef. So for me, it makes more sense to sell my calves

and then just go buy steaks. Mm, okay, yeah, that's a good point because you only get like five, six steaks out of it, right? And the rest is just ground beef. Yeah, you'll get more than point, because you only get like five, six steaks out of it, right? And the rest is just ground beef. Yeah, you'll get more than that. But like, it feels like five or six. It feels like it's like, dang, I just feel like I just got this beef in.

Yeah. I see these viral videos of people buying like a half cow or whole cow and then freezing all the meat. Yeah. No, and that's becoming real popular. Like, there'll be ranches that are selling direct to consumers. And they'll get a half a beef, fill up a deep freeze. And you know, that'll last them, depending real popular, like there'll be ranches that are selling direct to consumers and

they'll get a half a beef, fill up a deep freeze. You know, that'll last them depending on how much beef they eat. I've been looking into it, honestly. I got to buy a whole freezer if I do that. Yeah. And that's, and like I said, you know, like I was talking earlier, I'm not knocking that, you know, cause you know exactly where it came from and that's a great way, you know, to source the beef that you're getting. Um, yeah, that's a good, good source the beef that you're getting.

Yeah, that's a good play. Yeah. Well, dude, what's next for you? What do you got planned for next year? Man, more videos, more podcasts, more vlogs. My vlog is called Rodeo Time. It's the name of my Paralline. It's the name of my podcast show.

But the main thing is my Rodeo Time episodes are my vlogs. And we've done almost 400. Let's go. Yeah, we're either ranching my rodeo time episodes are my vlogs. And we've done almost 400. Let's go. Yeah, we're either ranching or rodeoing or anything in between. Going all in on content. I'm doing the same thing next year. Yeah, yeah, we're all trying to do what you're doing.

You are killing it. And we're just chasing after the digital social hour. I'm chasing after you, man. You've got some cool guests. Well, if you do get into vlogging like you talked about, then we'd love to have you out in Texas sometime. Yeah, that'd be a cool video. You're moving at the speed of light.

I'm trying, man. Three episodes a day. Yeah. Gotta catch up to certain people, you know? You probably drink a lot of caffeine. I actually don't. I just tried this Slate McCall randomly today, but I usually don't drink caffeine.

Really? Yeah, I don't do any drugs. I'll drink like twice a year. I'm don't. I just tried the slate McCall randomly today, but I usually don't drink caffeine. Really? Yeah, I don't do any drugs. I'll drink like twice a year. I'm pretty natural. That's crazy. Yeah.

Man, I'm mainline caffeine. You live off that coffee? Yeah, or just like, I got like a powdered energy drink that I'll drink. Yeah. But I don't drink or smoke. Like I don't do any drugs. I've never drank.

Wow. In your line of work, that must be rare. Yeah, people like to party in rodeo. People like to party. But I don't know. I just feel good sober. My dad never drank. He was like a mix between Billy Graham and John Wayne.

So he never drank. And yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I had a little caffeine reliance. I had to get rid of it. I was getting these heart palpitations. Really? Yeah, I was drinking too much coffee, I think. Maybe I should.

Too much caffeine. Take a break. I don't like to rely on things. Yeah. You know, I want to be in control as much as possible. That's why with psychedelics, I got to chill on those. Really? Yeah, I had a bad trip last time.

Is that not a drug? I'm curious, I don't know. It depends, so mushrooms are natural, but yeah, it's still a drug. Okay. But I try to take as natural as possible. I got you. Yeah.

Yeah. You double with psychedelics or no? No, I haven't, but it's very intriguing. It is. That weirds me out, thinking of like going to another dimension mentally. It can mess you up, man. Some people don't come out the same.

To be honest, I probably won't do it. I probably won't do it. You've never been curious about it? I'm definitely curious about it. But like, I don't know. To me, I feel like it probably falls under that Ephesians 518, don't get drunk on wine. For me personally, in my walk with the Lord,

it probably would fall under that Yeah, it might interfere with the Bible because that would like to me. That's like the ultimate you know Changing your mind, you know like Taking your taking you I don't know. Yeah, but I could be convinced. Otherwise, maybe it's not maybe it's maybe it's something that Yeah, I mean that because you, because Jesus did drink wine, he turned water into wine. That was actually his very first miracle.

So maybe it would fall under that category of just like a little casual wine at a wedding. And let's do a little psychedelics. It doesn't sound that way though. It feels like it would be more serious. I mean, if they make it legal, who knows? I don't know if you've seen young guns, but. We're in the spirit world, asshole.

Whenever they do that. What do they do, peyote or something? Oh, that one's pretty intense. Yeah, I feel like that's probably psychedelics are probably in, put you in the spirit world. Oh, it will. Some people leave their body, man. Oh, dang, I better not do that.

You'd see like nightmares have like the dark side of your mind come out, huh? Yeah, some people, their nightmares manifest like everything they run from just manifests when they're on psychedelics. That would be not fun. I don't like scary movies. You don't?

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I used to, but I had to chill because I would get terrible nightmares after. Yeah, that would be me. Yeah, that would be me. I'd be, yeah, my imagination runs a little too wild. Yeah, dude, well, we'll link your stuff below. Thanks for hopping on. That was fun. Man, thanks would be me. I'd be, yeah, my imagination runs a little too wild. Yeah, dude, well, we'll link your stuff below. Thanks for hopping on.

That was fun. Man, thanks for having me. Yeah, I appreciate it. I hope I didn't rant too much about the beef industry. So yeah. It's important to get your perspective. So thanks for hopping on. You bet.

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