Digital Social Hour - How Free Speech is Being Silenced in America | Joseph McBride DSH #1234

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

🔥 Joseph McBride on Andrew Tate, Political Censorship & Fighting the System 🚀 In this hard-hitting episode, we sit down with Joseph McBride, a top attorney and advocate, to discuss his work with Andrew & Tristan Tate, the deep state, political censorship, and legal battles surrounding free speech. McBride shares his insider perspective on corruption, legal warfare, and the future of justice in America. We dive into: ✅ How he became the Tate brothers' legal advocate ✅ Why free speech is under attack & how governments silence people ✅ The power struggle between Trump, DeSantis, and the political elite ✅ How Big Tech & the media manipulate narratives ✅ Why the legal system is being weaponized against political figures This episode is packed with powerful insights, legal strategies, and behind-the-scenes stories from one of the most controversial legal battles today! 📲 Follow Joseph McBride & Learn More: 🔗 Twitter/X: @McBrideLawNYC 🔗 Website: McBrideLaw.com 🔗 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mcbridelawnyc/ ⏱ CHAPTERS 📌 00:00 – Introduction: The Fight for Free Speech 📌 02:45 – Andrew Tate’s Legal Battles & Political Targeting 📌 08:30 – The War on Masculinity & Free Speech Suppression 📌 13:50 – Why Trump & DeSantis Are in a Power Struggle 📌 19:10 – How the Media Controls Public Perception 📌 24:25 – Government Overreach & The Deep State’s Role 📌 29:40 – How Free Speech is Being Silenced Online 📌 34:15 – The Future of Censorship & Big Tech’s Influence 📌 36:00 – Final Thoughts & The Fight for Justice 🔥 Apply to Be on the Podcast & Business Inquiries: 🎙 APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application 📩 BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail]   SPONSORS: SPECIALIZED RECRUITING GROUP: https://www.srgpros.com/  LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ #FreeSpeech #Censorship #LegalSystem #Justice #FirstAmendment #PoliticalLaw #HumanRights #TruthMatters

When you're like a real small guy who stands on male high heels and you're challenging two guys who are a lot more bigger in life than you are in many ways, you got to ask yourself what the hell is going on. So I think he's got a little bit of a Napoleon complex. He's just mad because he's going to lose power and he doesn't know what to do with the rest of his life. He probably bossed around by his wife at home. And now for those of you who don't like it you know that's just my two cents on the matter all right guys got him back joseph mcbride in vegas today for powerslap are you ready for tonight i'm ready brother it's gonna be a blast i can't wait came here with the tape brothers too yeah we sure did flew in uh yesterday on the jet with the tape brothers and the nelk boys

wow that was an experience that That's cool, man. It's cool to see them back in America because they haven't been here since they were eight years old, I saw it. No, they were here a couple of years ago because that's where all the stuff started, but they moved when they were around that age. But American citizens, innocent to prove guilty,

we are wrecking the Romanian prosecution. Great team out there. We're working with them on a regular basis. Good team in the UK, great team in the UK. And of course, we have our defamation lawsuit in Florida. So it was good to see them come home. Very sad to see Ron DeSantis tell two African-American men that they weren't welcome in this state upon their arrival.

Unbelievable. Did you see that coming at all beforehand? No, we did not. We saw in the weeks that were leading up to them coming home, I think that it was getting out in Romania, and I'm limited as to what I can talk about, but we were getting some stuff done behind the scenes, and we knew that they were gonna be leaving.

The plan was to come to Florida for a lot of reasons, Trump being president number one, proximity to Mar-a-Lago number two, Florida is great number three. So we saw the typical DeSantis influencers begin to pick up their attack against Andrew and Tristan online. And we said, okay, that's the anti-Trump sort of neocon space that was attacking Trump during his bid for the presidency in the

primaries and stuff so fine a little bit of an online war but you know we didn't necessarily expect the governor of Florida to say to two American citizens who were returning home you're not welcome here. It was very, you know, 1943 Oklahoma. Yeah, I can't recall any governor ever doing that publicly to be honest. Crazy. Well, it's backfiring on him big time. Huge. I think he's going to lose support. I think he already has.

He's lost support. You know, what is interesting is that they, DeSantis and his wife, Casey, were flying to D.C. a couple weeks ago to go get President Trump's endorsement for governor. And while they were landing, he endorsed Byron Donalds. Right, so Andrew and Tristan are widely considered influential, let's call it that. And they were able to steer a lot of young voters, uh, to Trump during the primaries and the elections and so on and so forth.

So he's associated with Trump, whether people like it or not on some level. So when we landed, uh, DeSantis really paid the favor back and said, you're not welcome here. It's petty. Uh, I believe that they're in a proxy war between the Trump camp and the DeSantis camp. Uh, and, uh, you know, we look forward to seeing a sea change in Florida with the DeSantis family is no longer in power.

Yeah. Yeah. So he had a grudge. That makes sense. Now I was wondering what his motive was with this move, because it didn't seem like a good move. No. I mean, you know, when you're like a real small guy who stands on male high heels

and you're challenging two guys who were, who are a lot more bigger in life than you are in many ways, you gotta ask yourself what the hell's going on. So I think he's got a little bit of a Napoleon complex. He's just mad because he's gonna lose power and he doesn't know what to do with the rest of his life. He's probably bossed around by his wife at home. And for those of you who don't like it,

that's just my two cents on the matter. Yeah yeah that's something X has done great with is like uncovering these the stuff going on right yeah you just saw Charlie Kirk go on Newsome's podcast yeah and Newsome got obliterated it's all over X now right he sure did you know Charlie Kirk is a force brilliant dude smart dude if you're gonna engage with somebody who has that kind of mental capacity and knowledge about American history and politics you better come correct and Newsom just you know, he operates in that Kamala Harris universe It's just not reality and before as a governor you could not do any interviews kind of go behind the scenes and get away with stuff

But now with podcasts and long-form content, you know, you got to show your hand no way to run no way to hide, baby Yeah, it's great. I love it. Yeah with X, like the news just cycles so quick now. You can't really hide anything these days. You can't hide anything, you know. It's great. All the information is there. It's available for digestion. And it's really being left up to the consumer of said information to make a value judgment as to what's valuable, what's not valuable, what I like, what I dislike. And you know, it turns out a lot of people like the truth. All right. Shout out to today's sponsor, Specialized Recruiting Group.

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genocide recently happened in Palestine, and you need to call it what it is, right? So my personal opinion is that Israel has a right to exist, but not at the expense or at the genociding of other people, right? It needs to be fair, it needs to be equitable. And the Catholic position, I'm a traditional Catholic, the Catholic position is that the Holy Land belongs to Jesus Christ. So that's my position on the matter. And you don't get to murder our people on an industrial scale, no matter what happened. October 7th, tragic day.

Horrible day, right? But when you juxtapose it to, let's say, 9-11, you know, we had a justifiable war, and we fought the war with courage and with moderation and often taking into account the civilian casualties that would happen if the American military took action in a given place. We did not see that, we have not seen that in Gaza, it's just been the absolute annihilation and destruction. To his credit, Bibi basically

said that they were going to flatten a place into a parking lot, and that's what he did. And you know, depending on where you're at on that, people have strong opinions. But I think that I'm pro-life in every set of circumstances. I'm anti-war, unless war is absolutely necessary. I think that that situation could have been remedied quicker, faster. And it's the human rights crisis that we're seeing there right now is tragic. Yeah. So I pray for the people on both sides. I pray for Israel. I pray for the people of Gaza, both the Muslims and the Christians and the other people who are there as well. And I hope that we

see peace in that situation in the near future. Are you confident Trump can help put an end to some of these wars? Of course, of course he can. Trump is already putting an end to these wars. I mean, the Hamas said they didn't want no more smoke before he even got into office. We see what happened with Zelensky and what's

happening with Putin over there. Zelensky turns out Zelensky and his supporters don't actually want to end the frigging war over there. Uh, Zelensky, turns out Zelensky and his supporters don't actually want to end the friggin' war over there. Yeah, that was apparent on that interview. Very apparent, right? Uh, Putin wants to end it, Trump wants to end it, and anybody else who's in the world who's a reasonable person and has a fair mind

wants to end the bloodshed as well. Trump is going to put an end to most wars, and I don't think he's gonna have to fire a bullet. And that's exactly, um, what his position was in 2016. He didn't send us to no new wars there either. So I am thankful to God that he is in office. Please this foreign aid stuff is blowing my mind. It's absolutely insane. I mean I was watching Elon on Joe Rogan the other day and he was saying that there's a hundred billion dollars a year of excess funds that are going to places

Contracts people are gone dead. These organizations don't even exist. Where's it going? It's just abject fraud and you know when Joe asked him and said, you know, is this hard and you know I was like, it's not rocket science, which I thought was a funny pun But yeah, look this this this stuff with US aid is intense. It's corrupt. You know, there's a point of intersection between US aid and Soros. What's happening in Romania,

the persecution of free speech. Andrew Tate, Tristan Tate. What's happening in the UK, the Romanian election. So, you know, it's ugly, but we're getting to the bottom of it. Yeah, this fraud goes deep. Elon even said on Rogan that if he exposed all of it, they would have him killed. Yeah, that's how deep it goes. Yeah, I believe that. I mean, I could definitely see that. When there's billions of dollars on the line?

Probably a lot more than that, trillions of dollars. Jeez. And look, they knew this was coming. That's why they tried to put a bullet in Trump's head. Yeah, but they failed. Yeah, failed multiple times. Yeah, crazy, man. Yeah, these investigations, I I mean they were funding condoms 50 million dollars with condoms and Zimbabwe or whatever it is. Look we get it You know like safe sex is is good But especially in areas where they have you know, they're still dealing with the AIDS epidemic Let's say but you got to be reasonable 50 million dollars is not even reasonable for a ditty party Can't even picture how many condoms that is But you got to be reasonable fifty million dollars is not even reasonable for a ditty party

One of his first executive orders was about the j-6 years right Trump Yeah, that must have felt good for you because you were representing some of those clout some of those guys Representing those guys since Ash Wednesday of 2021 So very happy to see that happen. I participated in pioneering the pardon conversation. We always believed that President Trump was going to grant the pardons, because that was the word in the inner circle, that was the word on the street. President Trump had significant interior and external operation for the opposition for the way that he dealt with the January 6th years, which was, you know, with compassion and consideration and care, remembering who they were standing up for that day,

remembering that the election was stolen. He did not retract on his word, and he issued that pardon, those pardons on day one, and all those guys are free now. Mm. Thousands. Thousands. Some of them were still locked up right some of them were in I cell some of them were still locked up in solitary confinement for a long period of time And lots of guys who went in and came out are now dealing with the effects of incarceration we know That mass incarceration to any group of people if if you look at the African American male population or the Latino population, it destroys families, it destroys minds, it destroys opportunity.

People are disenfranchised from being able to participate in voting and certain jobs, gun ownership, and when you're institutionalizing, you're in solitary confinement for a long time, it's torture. It changes the actual fabric of your brain. Your brain physically changes from it. It's not just like this ethereal change. It's a physical change that happens to your brain. So why these guys were pardoned, and they don't have to deal with the societal effects

of cancellation and not being able to own guns or vote or work, they still have to deal with the psychological, emotional cancellation and not being able to own guns or vote or work, they still have to deal with the psychological, emotional and physical effects of being incarcerated wrongfully for that period of time. Yeah, we talked about this the first time you came on with your brother, right? Ruined him. So I know this resonates for you. They ruined him.

They ruined him and he hasn't gotten any better. So it's sad. Yeah, that's super sad, man. Did you see what happened with Zachary Aaron Bonfilo, AKA misfit Patriot? You know, um, is yes. So, um, uh, is, is what happened true? I mean, it was there on the police record,

right? Yeah. So, you know, uh, that's some quick karma, you know, um, my policy with, uh, people who come after me online for my religious beliefs, political beliefs, the people I represent, has always been just disengagement. I don't engage with those people,

I don't platform those people. I learned early on when I tried to engage in constructive dialogue with them saying, okay, let's agree to disagree, let's have a conversation about it. They just never really wanted any of that. They just wanted to curse you out and to be heard. And there's not a scintilla of reasonableness in them. So I blocked him long ago

because I just don't want him in my energy field. Be that as it may, he likes to talk about me and my clients in the president and Andrew Tate, you know, fairly regularly. So when I saw the report, I wasn't surprised because guys like that are a joke. Yeah. They're soft.

And anybody who beats up on old women, women, old women, their grandmothers, you know, and then wants to make a moral argument about how other people live their lives, you know, and then wants to make a moral argument about how other people live their lives, you know, classical, glass, throwing stones in a glass house. Just ironic, right? I feel like he was just projecting. Big time.

Now looking back on it, it's like, wow, that makes so much sense. Oh, yeah. Projecting, cloud chasing. Andrew says it, said it pretty well. When he was on Patrick Bette David's podcast, and he likes to say, and he has said it, it's the truth, I'm the hero they all wanna be. Do you follow me? And all these guys who are coming after me,

they're just jealous I'm the hero that they all wanna be. I'm not necessarily Superman, maybe I'm more analogous to Batman, but they wanna be me, they can't be me, and they hate me for it. And we call it main character syndrome. You know, they all have like this complex, like they want to be the main characters and because they can't be the main characters,

they attack the main characters, try to bring them down. Right, yeah. I think with social media, that's just natural, right? Yeah, yeah, it's natural. But you know, look at what social media is doing to this guy now. Right. You know, misfit is living up to his name. Yeah.

What was it like kicking it with Roger Stone? I saw you with him the other day. So Roger Stone and I are close friends. He's an advisor, a mentor. I am, I've hung out with him. I know his wife. Every time I'm in his presence, I'm grateful for it. I mean, you were talking about a guy who's been involved in politics since Nixon.

Crazy. Right, so his level of connectivity, his level of influence, and his just knowledge about things that are currently happening and things that have happened in the past. I just don't know anybody in the political world, in the American geopolitical world, who is like him. So it was a natural, Roger's always been very pro-tape.

He's always been very pro-Trump. So we wanted to make that one of the first things that we did on the Tate tour. And we got, we went out for some good food. Roger, you know, he's been around long enough and he's been to, you know, every high society function and gathering and dinner that you could possibly think of. So it's real nice every time we hang out with him,

he always goes to these really understated places that are authentic, have really good food. So that was the vibe. And then we went across the street, we had cigars that night, and it was just hours and hours of constructive dialogue, planning, agreements, good conversation, and just a reiteration that what we're seeing with the troll armies on X right now against Andrew,

against Roger sometimes and other people, isn't real life. And everywhere we go, Roger is a big time celebrity, and everywhere we go, I've been out with him in Florida before, people always thanking him, people always are coming up to him and asking him for his autograph, thanking him for this and for that,

and everywhere we go with Andrew and Tristan, it's the same, so when these three guys walk into the room, and I was just there watching it, and everybody was like, oh my God, right? Just a very, very cool experience. Yeah, powerful legendary. Powerful legendary alliance. Yeah, and he's the perfect kind of role model right now

because the legal system was used against him. He was like the first guy that happened to you, right? Of course. And now that the Tates are dealing with it, he's like perfect to be in their corner. Yeah, we sat down at the table and at some point I was like, you know, let's share stories here. Let's talk about our different experiences and you know

Roger can you walk them through what happened he walked them through everything regarding his arrests and the way he was mistreated and Andrew and Tristan were talking about what happened in Romania and you know and then we were talking about the Santas and the neocon powers that be that don't love America. They love war, they love poverty, and they're selfish, and they hate Trump. And, you know, we're against all that. Yeah, because politicians can profit off war, right? Big time. It's the military-industrial complex.

Yeah. Of course, yeah, they profit off of war and pain. It's unfortunate, and it's wrong, and, and you know we're against it man I believe in karma so if you make money dirty like that yeah that coming back to you man it goes back and sometimes relatively fast oh yeah when does that take going on Rogan man you know that's a good question you know I don't I don't know it could happen at some point you've seen him tomorrow you have see yeah it's gonna to be interesting.

I hope, you know, let's see if they can make that connection. I know Rogan's been busy. Tate's been busy. It would be an epic podcast if that happened. You know, Andrew's controversial. You know, it takes a really, you got to be, have a real open mind and be ready to have a constructive debate with somebody who's going to come at you if, if, uh, if you disagree with stuff.

And, uh, I hope, uh, Joe's ready for that and wants that to happen. And if, if he does, he should let us know, cause it would be awesome. Hell yeah. I saw him on, uh, I think Full Send podcast. His electronics got seized when he got to Florida. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, it's nuts. What the hell? Yeah. So, you know, touchdown and border patrol, customs, homeland security. Holy crap. They knew you were coming in.

They knew we were coming in. And, you know, we believed that it was the Santas who tipped them off said alleged human traffickers are coming in coming in seize their phones problem is is that we have what's called a reasonable expectation of privacy under the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution to be free from warrantless intrusions by government so if they want to stop you and search you and seize your items they need a warrant right The warrant has to be based upon probable cause. Depending on where you are at in the world, your reasonable expectation of privacy is high or low or in the middle.

So it's highest when you're in your home, it's pretty low when you're in a car, and it's even lower when you're at the border. So they're able to do things at the border that doesn't necessarily happen when you're on the street or when you're in your home. So that's why it took advantage of that situation. It was wrong. No warrants have been produced to us. I've reached out. We have heard anything about a warrant. We haven't heard anything about

a finding a probable cause. We haven't heard anything about anything. I put in the request for the devices to be returned or for the warrants to be produced and for the affidavits of probable cause that were produced to a Neutral detached magistrate to say hey, where'd you get probable cause from these guys haven't been in the country for several years Tell us what the facts are if the warrant is legit and fine if it's not legit We're going to challenge it hasn't been produced because there's something you know criminal probably afoot and You know we're gonna keep drilling down on it until we get the results that we need. Holy crap, so they took your stuff too? No not my stuff, not my stuff. That's insane. It is insane, it's wrong but you know

what are they gonna find on it? Nothing. You know these guys aren't criminals. You know if they were criminals, if they were guilty of anything that they've been accused of they would have been locked up in perpetuity in Romania but as we're seeing that case is falling apart. Blows my mind because James O'Keefe had his phone seized by the FBI I think five years ago and they still have it even though he beat the case. They'll probably keep it they do that. That's nuts. If you get it back it's smashed. Wow. Yeah they're just. I can't believe that's allowed. They do it because they can who's gonna check the federal government? No one. Right.

But thank God we got Trump. We got Cash Patel in there now. They're cleaning the house. What's great is a lot of these January 6 prosecutors have all been fired. They've all been fired, every one of them. The FBI agents, they're all gone. So we hope to highlight the people that were involved in the improper seizing of Andrew and Tristan Tate, their belongings and to see what happens.

Because I've reached out to multiple members and the federal government. I've reached out to the FBI, the Department of Justice saying, look, you know, is there an issue here with Andrew and Tristan? And the resounding answer has been absolutely not. There was no issue here with them at all. There's no open investigation with them at all. We don't know what the hell Ron DeSantis is doing in Florida. It's a local thing by a cloud-chasing midget

who's trying to make a name for his wife. And it'll probably all go away soon. That's crazy. So no federal agency has wanted involvement? No. So the governor can tap a federal agency and say, hey, I'm the governor of Florida, Homeland Security, ICE, help us out, seize these people.

So when I've reached out and I said, you know, what's going on, we haven't heard anything back in terms of, yes, there's an investigation. All of my contacts who I've spoken to have been like, this is the Santas acting on its own. You know, sometimes a governor can use the feds to seize stuff, but you got this AG in Florida saying there's an open investigation,

he should put up or shut up is what he should do. Because he's running his mouth and he's defaming, slandering my two clients, Andrew and Tristan Tate, who are plaintiffs in a defamation suit against a woman who used sextortion as a plot to destroy their lives. The laws that protect citizens of Florida or members of Florida, people in the state of Florida from those types of crimes and those types of actions are there to protect Andrew and Tristan. And this guy is acting like they are somehow not the victims and are the predators or are traffickers based on some crap that he heard from either the UK or the Romanian government in some faraway land. So he's wrong, he should retract his statements before it becomes a bigger problem for himself. Otherwise he'll be out of office in a few years.

It makes you wonder if they're all working together, Romania, UK, and Florida. Oh, they definitely are. Right, so when you say Florida, right, we gotta separate the federal government from the state government, the Department of Justice and their offices in Florida from the people who are under DeSantis' control.

And so when you speak to the people in Florida, I speak to law enforcement in Florida, like I said, everywhere we go, these guys, police officers are taking pictures, moms are taking pictures, kids, whoever, right? These guys are adored, you love, not everybody loves them, but they get a lot of love, right? It's just DeSantis. It's DeSantis and his Neocon deep state partners. You know, the same people who went after Trump. You saw DeSantis' commercials. They were Soros funded, Soros based. They're all part of that deep state network

that hates Trump, hates free speech, hates Tate. So is Romania or are Romania, the UK, and the DeSantis can't work it together to destroy these guys, of course. Will successful no they won't for many it's pretty much beaten right last time I heard about it yeah that case is falling apart I mean they were under various forms of what they call judicial control in Romania their freedom of movement was restricted for the past few years shut off their power to it all kinds of stuff I show up their power raided their house several

times put them in jail a few times, seized like 20 million dollars worth of cars and assets and jewelry. Damn, did they get that back? They should be able to get it back, but I'm not sure what's going to happen in Romania. What I can say is this, if you're in house arrest or in jail and if you are a human trafficker, point to one example in the history of the world where anybody who was a legitimate human trafficker has ever been, yeah, you can go travel the world now,

right, but the prosecutor just said, he made a very independent, legitimate decision and said, look, after all this time, I've decided that we don't have what it takes to hold these guys, so enough is enough, it's been a wild ride, but I'm gonna let these guys loose. So they technically have an open case there. That case is gonna be, it's gonna fall apart. Andrew and Tristan have a

tremendous respect for the Romanian people and the good members of the Romanian government. But just like any other reasonable person, they don't like corruption and they're angry about the the consequences of corruption in their life. And you know, hopefully we'll see what happens. They just put the leading candidate for the presidency in jail the other day. Really? Yeah, George Esco, he won the previous election,

they decided they were going to nullify the results. The same day that Andrew and Tristan flew to America, he went to go re-register to run, and they threw him in jail. Holy crap. Yeah, so I think he got out, and he's supposed to re-register again today. I'm not him in jail. Holy crap. Yeah, so I think he got out and he's supposed to re-register again today. I'm not sure if he was able to or if they jailed him again. But it's corruption.

It's deep state stuff out there. Deep state is real, the matrix is real. I think we all know that at this point. And it's just a matter of how long will this go on before more countries like Hungary and Italy say, look, enough is enough? Yeah. How does it say, man? What's going on in the UK?

They opened up a case too, Arthur? In the UK, you can go to jail for a tweet right now. You can. I've heard that in the UK. You can get 10 years. Wow. Look at what they did to Tommy Robinson. You know, they used the candler as a proxy to lock him up.

They use the Canada as a proxy to lock them up There they lock up People who pray in front of abortion clinics or pastors or preachers or priests around the street Some old senior citizen the other day got years in jail for speaking out against the government Wow So do they want Andrew interest in there to be be able to prosecute them for mean tweets? Of course they do. You have a couple grifting attorneys, a bunch of nobodies, just real low-hanging, low-level people out in the UK who have made it their life's work to go after Andrew and Tristan by resurrecting old allegations from years ago that these guys are alleged to have done something.

Anytime you are accused of a crime that involves rape or sex trafficking or anything like that in the UK, the law enforcement police take everybody's phones. So they took the phones of the accusers way back when and just by going through the phones, realized that there was a plot to extort them. So they dismissed the case. They said we're not gonna prosecute

this. This is in bad faith. He's trying to resurrect those claims and some other and some other things because he's got nothing better to do with his life. It's unfortunate. It's wrong. There's also a few videos floating around the internet. People alleging that Andrew, you know, had a sexual relationship with a 15 year old from Slovakia, debunked. The woman herself said that she was 18 or older at the time when she left Slovakia. Her father even waited on the issue. There was another video where, you know, he's like with a belt and he's saying, I'll do this. I'll do that. I still have one over there.

But the first, the five seconds before that are not included in the video. In that five seconds, what does it say? What would you do if a woman hurts you, beats you, rob you, I'm paraphrasing. What would it like that? Would you fight back? Oh, I would do this, I would do that.

It's all widely taken out of context. A lot of it was done in jest. These guys were trying to make a name for for themselves trying to put themselves on the map through shock value They did it. It's not necessary. It's certainly not an accurate representation of who they are and You know if you juxtapose a lot of things that they say against Howard Stern would say a lot of it's not very different But I don't see anybody clamoring to put Howard Stern in jail,

and he's done a lot of wild things on his show. Yeah, quite a few. Yeah, so it's just either love free speech or you hate it. And when we defend free speech, if I defend a Muslim's right to cry out for whatever he wants, right, I'm simultaneously defending a Jewish person's right to say whatever they want. When I defend an atheist right to say, I don't believe in

God, I'm defending a Christian's right to preach the gospel, right? Because once you begin to clamp down on free speech for somebody, for one person, you begin to do it for everybody. One man's gospel is another man's hate speech. That's why I'm a free speech near absolutist. Other than crying, you know, the law says you can't cry a fire in a crowded theater. There's a few other exceptions to the rule. Other than that, people should be able to say whatever the hell they want without going to jail for it because it's just words. I mean, Twitter has the most traffic out of every platform right now.

And I think a big part of that is because of free speech. Yes. You wouldn't be able to say any of that on other platforms Tates are still banned everywhere, right? Yeah, you know, there's been trouble with meta Mark Zuckerberg Who has you know? Professed to the world that he has changed his tune when it comes to censorship has still not Reallowed Andrew and Tristan back on the platform Yeah, Andrew and Tristan Tate are the litmus tests for free speech.

Until they are allowed on your platform, you are not a platform that endorses free speech. Mm. Yeah, you guys got to talk to Dana this weekend about that. He's on their board now. Right, yeah, yeah. Something tells me that might be happening. Yeah, that's one phone call.

Yeah, I hope they get back on there, because I used to see them every day on TikTok, Instagram. I think they have an algorithm that detects their face now It's crazy they do because even when I would post stuff about them in my account. I would get bad you get shadow banned, right? Yeah, I'm not they would tell me I'm posting hate speech. Holy crap. Yeah, oh, yeah on tick-tock forget it I used to happen with Trump too. Yeah big time anytime you posted a photo with Trump you would get 90% of your views would go down right now Trump isn't a looming threat anymore because You know, he's only gonna he's got one more term, right?

It's either gonna be JD Vance or I heard that Don jr. Maybe making a run for it, right? So anybody who can support those guys is is the threat? Yeah, so that's why they're still is the threat. So that's why they're still disallowing these people on. But no Andrew Tate, no free speech. Yup, people are saying Newsom's gonna make a run in 28. That's why you started this podcast, to start gaining eyeballs. Look, anybody who wants to vote for a guy

who turned off the water on people in code for having too many people at a house and who threw people in jail for going too many people at a house and who threw people in jail for going to mass during COVID, who have some that has and his state has some of the most restrictive measures on speech and assembly and on religious worship while simultaneously removing a father's right to say, Hey, you should not be able to talk to my son about gender affirming care when he's five years old My son's a man and he'll continue to be a man unless he and I have a conversation and and the mother

When he's an adult to determine otherwise But if you tell my son and you put this stuff in my son's head and then take my son to a hospital to chemically Castrate him you can do that in California and in you can go to jail if you're the father who objects to it. That's crazy. I was talking to a guy in Texas the other day whose wife moved to California and chemically castrated his son. There's nothing that he can do about it. That's terrible. It's horrible. Elon lost a kid to that too. He did and I think that's what started all this. 100%. Oh man that's terrible. Yeah I'm glad

that Kurt, even his own son supports Charlie Kirk. Sorry. Did you know that? Yeah that makes sense. Nuts man. Yeah it's a shame because Cali's got the best weather for being objective. Cali's a great state man. I love it. I think LA is a cool town. I'm in love with San Diego. I think San Diego is as close to paradise on Earth that you get. It's just real unfortunate with the politics there. Absolutely. What's next for you, man?

Well, well, right now we're just focused on the Andrew and Tristan situation. I have a consulting company that we recently started called Power Dynamic Strategies. I have a friend and a partner with that. Widely known in the crypto world as Leo. He is from, he's an American lawyer who now lives in Dubai. He's in background with me on the take case,

so we're doing some heavy consulting work, both domestically and internationally. I've been in the e-commerce space for a while. I sit on the board and I'm a partner at a company called Wholesale Universe out of Texas. That's going well. So it's been a bit of entrepreneurial work, investments. We got about four or five companies now,

my wife and I, with the past few years. And we're just really trying to diversify what we do to increase our impact on the world, to generate as much wealth for our children as we can going forward, and to continue to fight for freedom and for justice, whether it be for Andrew and Tristan Tate, or the Muslim Jew or Christian who wants to,

or atheist who wants to have their voice heard in the free marketplace of ideas without being canceled. And of course, you know, we're gonna continue to support President Trump and everything that he's tried to accomplish in this administration. And we're interested to see who's gonna be the next front runner in 28.

I think that really election season, the conversation for that has to start soon. Whoever it's gonna be, I think that really election season, the conversation for that has to start soon. Whoever it's gonna be, I think that the pick should be clear, whether it's JD Vance or Don Jr. There's, you know, I know there's some people who like Tulsi as well. I think any one of those people would be great. I think JD Vance, what he's doing right now

is absolutely phenomenal. I know Don Jr. personally. I think he'd be great for the job. I'm a big fan of Tulsi Gabbard as well. So I think we need to figure out who that person's going to be and get behind them very early and get assurances from whoever that person is going to be that they're going to carry the mission into the future.

We don't need somebody who's going to undo or not carry out the America First and the Trump agenda going forward. So we're excited, obviously, and we're happy to have Andrew and Tristan back. It's just no retreat, no surrender. We've won many battles. The war still rages on. Until the victory for free speech is absolute, we're gonna continue to fight. Powerful.

Thanks for everything you do, man. It's super important. Appreciate you, man. Thanks for what you do. I appreciate your podcast, man. The way that you interview people, you platform people, and you have people from all walks of life,

from all types of successes, from the left and from the right on. And you guys really let the viewer decide. And I think it's real important that, you know, that what you're doing and hopefully, you know, we'll get a couple of my guys on here in the near future for you. Let's do it, man.

Thanks for popping on again. We'll link yourself below. Yeah, good to see you, brother. Absolutely, you too. Check them out, guys.